1 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jenny and Maria qk. 2 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 2: Hi. Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. Let's get started 3 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 2: with the story of the week. So this story is 4 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 2: something that I've been waiting for forever. Louisiana lawmakers have 5 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 2: approved a bill that will allow surgical castration for pedophiles. 6 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 3: I love this so much. This makes me so happy. Yeah. 7 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 2: So Louisiana had already allowed chemical castration, which do you 8 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 2: want to explain what that is. Yeah, it's when you 9 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 2: give hormones to our medications to a man to essentially 10 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 2: stop him from producing testosterone so that it's less invasive. Obviously, 11 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,279 Speaker 2: because once you stop giving them the drugs, then they 12 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 2: could start producing the hormone against It's not it's like 13 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 2: a semi permanent solution. 14 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 15 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 2: So Louisiana lawmakers have put this bill forward. It still 16 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: does need to be approved by the governor, but I 17 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 2: don't see why it wouldn't. I just think this is 18 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: a really good idea. But basically how it works is 19 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 2: those who are convicted of sex crimes with victims under 20 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 2: thirteen years old can be surgically castrated. Now, so the 21 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 2: bill will give judges the option to assess the penalty 22 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 2: against people convicted of the crimes. I guess they will 23 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 2: see how severe the crimes are and then kind of 24 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 2: determined from there if they're going to go forward with 25 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 2: it or not. 26 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm not sure. 27 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 2: I would really like to speak with an expert about this, 28 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 2: because I'm not sure if there's been studies done that 29 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 2: show that people that tend to be pedophiles that if 30 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 2: they do get castrated, if they no longer have those tendencies. 31 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 2: And you would seem to think that that's totally possible 32 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: because most sex offenders against children are men, so you 33 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 2: would think that testosterone has something. 34 00:01:58,640 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 3: To do with it. 35 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: Although, so I feel like lately in the news, I've 36 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: been hearing a lot of women doing this to children 37 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 2: now in school, which is just kind of weird unless 38 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 2: it's always happened and we just never talked about it. 39 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like. 40 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 2: We've known that women can be predators, especially in more 41 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: high profile cases like Mary Kayla Turno, who is the 42 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 2: teacher that got impregnated by her young teen student. Right, 43 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 2: But yeah, but that was unheard of when that happened. No, 44 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 2: And there definitely, of course have been cases of it 45 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 2: that we just have not been privy to as a society. 46 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: But I do feel the same way as you that 47 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 2: I've been seeing more and more female pedophile stories popping 48 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 2: up lately. So regardless, I want to note because it 49 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 2: has to be both sexually driven as well as just 50 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 2: fucked up in the brain driven, you know, whatever causes 51 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 2: that to happen. So I'm at least they won't have 52 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 2: they might not have the sex drive anymore to impulse 53 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: on it, act on it. So I'm like totally for this. 54 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 2: And a surgical castration is cutting off the testicles, removing 55 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: the hormone. Yeah, So any surgery will be conducted inside 56 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 2: the prisons by a doctor supplied by the Department of 57 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 2: Public Safety and Corrections, and they will have to the 58 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 2: court will have to find the defendant suitable for castration 59 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 2: at least sixty days prior to the treatment. So it's 60 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 2: very it's kind of like the first of its kind, 61 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 2: because they're it's kind this is the thing. The only 62 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 2: reason that I kind of go on the other side 63 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 2: is because it's a slippery slope when you start telling 64 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 2: the government that they're allowed to do surgery on you 65 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 2: against your will. 66 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 3: Because because people. 67 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 2: You've heard people say that about like, let's say women 68 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 2: that get pregnant with like ten kids and can't afford 69 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 2: them and stuff. It's like, which, obviously they shouldn't keep 70 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: having babies if they can't afford them, But where do 71 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 2: you draw the line, you know what I mean, to 72 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: be able to force people to do a medical procedure 73 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: like that. It's just like, I'm for it for the pedophilia, 74 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: for sure, but I'm not for it for other situations. 75 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 2: And I don't want to sound like a hypocrite, you 76 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 2: know what I mean? 77 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I get that. 78 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 2: I just I feel like so often when we talk 79 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 2: about these stories of sex crimes that you know, there's 80 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 2: this argument that a lot of people don't see pedophilia 81 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 2: and sex crimes as being as severe of crimes that 82 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 2: they are. Even Nancy and Cheryl on Zone seven this week, 83 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 2: we're talking about this judge whose son is a serial rapist, 84 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 2: and she lets a lot of sex other sex. 85 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 3: Offenders off the hook. 86 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,799 Speaker 2: So I feel like a lot of people are committing 87 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 2: these crimes a because they have mental health issues and 88 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 2: b because there's really not as severe punishments for it 89 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 2: than there are. 90 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 3: With murder cases. 91 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 2: Right, So I think this will help people, you know 92 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 2: that if maybe they can battle that mental issue they're having, 93 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 2: they won't move forward with it because they know there's 94 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: such severe punishments where maybe in the past they were 95 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 2: kind of letting people slip through the cracks with this. 96 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 3: So I don't know. 97 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: I'm all for this, yes, but I understand what you're saying. 98 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 2: At the same time, I can't believe that you're saying 99 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 2: out loud that sometimes you hear, you know, like recently, 100 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 2: I feel like it's been happening in the past like 101 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 2: six or so years, that when you say stuff out loud, 102 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 2: it's just so outrageous. Like there's a judge show, a 103 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 2: highly educated person, highly educated in the law, that is 104 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 2: being easy on sex offenders against children, Like like what 105 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: you would think back in the day, you would say, 106 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 2: everyone's on the same page that sex offenders are just 107 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 2: the worst things ever, especially against children, and now it's 108 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 2: it's it's like you're learning that it's not like that, 109 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 2: and it's just so weird to me. I don't Yeah, 110 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 2: I don't think a lot of people think that, which 111 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 2: is a problem. Like I am comfortable speaking about this 112 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 2: because I will never change my opinion about this. I 113 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 2: think rape is as serious as a crime as murder. 114 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 2: If you have raped somebody, you have ruined their life effectively, 115 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 2: the same as you would have if you murdered them 116 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 2: or tried to kill them or physically harm them. So 117 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 2: I just think it's crazy that you know, there's judges, 118 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: like you're saying, a highly educated person that's worth their 119 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 2: entire life to read this position, and they don't see 120 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 2: it as an issue, and they're allowing a child, their child, 121 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 2: to commit these crimes as well. It's really disgusting to me. 122 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 2: And you know, this whole conversation has come up with 123 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 2: this term map S lately minor attracted persons. I think it's, Oh, 124 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 2: why are we catering to this? I I think that 125 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 2: we're in a culture that everyone is like deathly afraid 126 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 2: to speak out about things that they feel are wrong 127 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 2: because they don't want to get canceled or whatever. And 128 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't give a shit because you can 129 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 2: find a million a million reasons on things I have 130 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 2: strong opinions about. But I I this, like you said, like, 131 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 2: I'll take this to my grave. I don't care if 132 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 2: every single person around me starts saying now this is cool. 133 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 2: I just never ever will will think that way ever 134 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 2: in a million years. So I'm sticking with my guns 135 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 2: on this one. I don't want to hear in five 136 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 2: years like, oh, that conversation didn't age well and this 137 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 2: and that, Like I don't give a shit then like 138 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 2: call me a dinosaur. I don't care, no, And I 139 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 2: think the argument with calling the maps is you don't 140 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 2: want to like, quote unquote offin somebody with a mental disorder. 141 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 3: And I agree to that to an extent, but oh 142 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't care. 143 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 2: If that's your mental disorder, then I will offend this 144 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 2: shit out. 145 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 3: That's what I'm gonna say. 146 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 2: Like, we can all agree somebody that murders or takes 147 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 2: the life of another human also can possibly have a 148 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: mental disorder, right, But I don't see people like recalling 149 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 2: them murderers, right, Nah, they do, well, they do. You're 150 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 2: ridiculous if you're partaking in that, Like when is it 151 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 2: going to stop? If you start making it okay, then 152 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 2: it's going to become okay in society, and then our 153 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 2: children are going to be affected. Okay, let's get on 154 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 2: the celebrity news a little bit lighter. I don't know 155 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 2: if this is too lighter. We talk about is light necessarily. 156 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 2: So we got some funny stories coming up. In April, 157 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 2: this singer man Disa was found dead in her home 158 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 2: my friends, so she was just forty seven years old. 159 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 2: She's most notable for being on American Idol in two 160 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 2: thousand and six. She went pretty far, and then a 161 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 2: couple years after that she actually won a Grammy, which 162 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 2: is pretty awesome. But now her cause of death has 163 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 2: been revealed as a Class three obesity. So I've been 164 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 2: saying this for since I've been on Instagram over ten years, 165 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 2: and I used to get a lot of shit in 166 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 2: people telling me that I fat, shame people and stuff, 167 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 2: but it's it is. In my opinion as a person 168 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 2: that does autopsy, it is what it is. It's it's 169 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 2: like I commonly would see people who died as a 170 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 2: result of complications from obesity, And there was this whole 171 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 2: movement that went on for a couple of years there 172 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 2: of healthy at any size, just. 173 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 3: People like one. 174 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 2: It was like circulating through social media about how obesity 175 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 2: was healthy. 176 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 3: It just was insane the shit that was going on. 177 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 2: And now all of a sudden, I'm seeing a change 178 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 2: in that tone. 179 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 3: Because duh, it's not right. 180 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 2: And now I feel like this article, if it came 181 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 2: out three years ago, it wouldn't even be saying this 182 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 2: or acknowledging that you can die as a result of obesity. 183 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 2: So we're gonna do talk about this. We're gonna do 184 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 2: a you know, every week in the gross room, we 185 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 2: do a high profile or celebrity death dissection. So I'm 186 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 2: really gonna go into this because there's different there's five 187 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 2: different classes of obesity, and it ranges from your BMI. 188 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 2: So in the in the in the case of case three, 189 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 2: it's with higher than thirty five BMI. But we'll talk 190 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 2: about that in that post about how the BMI scale 191 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 2: isn't one hundred percent like the only indicator of marking. 192 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,599 Speaker 2: It wasn't just like, Okay, this girl had a be 193 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 2: this BMI of over forty or over thirty five if 194 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 2: you have comorbidity factors. But if she just had that, 195 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 2: they wouldn't just label her that was her cause of death, 196 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? Like, Yeah, there's a 197 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 2: million other things that go into it. And I know 198 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 2: people that are bodybuilders or have certain body types can 199 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 2: just be tall or whatever could just have different BMI, 200 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 2: so you can't just measure that for obesity. But it's 201 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 2: just an indicator, like for example, with grade five or 202 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 2: class five obesity, it's like a BMI over sixty. I'm sorry, 203 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 2: Like I don't care how much weight you lift or 204 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 2: anything like, that's just not ever going to be good. 205 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 2: So the BMI is just kind of to get you 206 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 2: in a zone of how people weigh and then base 207 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 2: it upon that. And you're not coming from a place 208 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 2: of cruelty when you're speaking out about this. You're like, 209 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 2: these are my medical findings. This is what I've experienced first. 210 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 2: And also also like I'm not a skinny person, so 211 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 2: it's not like I'm just this, Oh, I was naturally 212 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 2: born thin and I don't know what it's like and 213 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 2: stuff like I've been up to two hundred and twenty pounds. 214 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 2: I don't even know what my BMI was, but like 215 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 2: I was like pushed in a size twenty and like 216 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:04,719 Speaker 2: I've been there and now I'm still I'm thinner than 217 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 2: that now, but I'm still no by no means of 218 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 2: a thin person. Yeah, I just I just I'm reporting 219 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 2: what I see, Like it's something that I struggle with too. 220 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 2: So it's not like but it's about I'm sitting here 221 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 2: looking from a far and judging people. 222 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 3: It's a constant struggle in my life as well. 223 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 2: But people always make this assumption that you're judging somebody's 224 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 2: physical appearance, and it's like, you're not. I'm trying to say, 225 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 2: this is what I've seen in the lab and in 226 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 2: the morgue. Make your insides healthy. 227 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, it has nothing to do with what you look like. 228 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 2: I don't care if you're if your belly is just 229 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 2: hanging down and it's unsightly like that, that doesn't matter 230 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 2: to me. 231 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 3: What I'm talking about. 232 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 2: I'm talking about fat, visceral fat around your organs, because 233 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 2: if you look that fat from the outside, you are 234 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 2: that fat inside too. 235 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 236 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 2: And people don't ever see their insides and they don't 237 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 2: see how that affects the way that their organs function. 238 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 2: But your organs aren't meant to have that much fat 239 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 2: on them. So that's that's why I talk about this. Yeah, 240 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 2: all right, So let's get on the opposite end of this. 241 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 2: Actress Jamila Jamila is speaking out about her anorexia and 242 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 2: laxative abuse. So she was talking to Kelly Rippa about 243 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 2: her eating disorder, saying at one point she would take 244 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 2: quotes so many laxatives and turn to any diet that 245 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 2: she could to lose weight. So, can you explain what 246 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 2: the dangerous effects of abusing laxatives are. Well, it's kind 247 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 2: of a vicious cycle that starts with this disbelief that 248 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 2: or a belief that these people have a belief that 249 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 2: is something that's not really true. Is that if they eat, 250 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 2: especially people that have eating disorders where they binge, they 251 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 2: take a laxative that's a stimulant, and it makes them 252 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 2: have diarrhea pretty quickly, right, And that assumption makes them 253 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 2: think that they're not absorbing calories. So that's why they 254 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 2: start doing it, right, But that's false because when food 255 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 2: leaves the stomach like technically that theory could be could 256 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 2: be used for throwing up right after you eat, because 257 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 2: the food's not yet absorbed like. 258 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 3: Right after you eat. 259 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 2: But once the food leaves your stomach and it goes 260 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,719 Speaker 2: to the small bowl, that's where the majority of your 261 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:13,319 Speaker 2: calories and nutrients get absorbed. Will when you take a laxative, 262 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 2: it doesn't work on your small belt, it works on 263 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 2: your large bowl, which absorbs the majority of water for 264 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:23,359 Speaker 2: your body, so all you're doing is kind of dehydrating 265 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 2: you and it's not really working. So then when you 266 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 2: get dehydrated, you have an electrolyte imbalance and stuff, which 267 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 2: then could cause you to become swollen and feel bloated 268 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 2: and then feel like you need to take the laxatives again. 269 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 2: And then it's like this vicious cycle of like an addiction. 270 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 2: You keep taking them, you feel bloated, and you may 271 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 2: lose weight if you take them and you abuse laxatives, 272 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 2: but all it is is water weight. It's not actually 273 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 2: calories because the calories are absorbed in the small bow. 274 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 2: So she said, quota, I'm amazed, I still have an asshole, 275 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 2: to be perfectly honest, it's a real trooper. It's a survivor. 276 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 2: So she definitely went through some help with this. Yeah, 277 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 2: So what happens is, over time, the laxative abuse could 278 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 2: damage the nerves in your colon and cause them to 279 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 2: stop working. And then you're because there's something in your 280 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 2: colon called peristalsis, And that's think about like impulses, like nerve. 281 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 2: You know, when you get a twitch in your eye, 282 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 2: it's like twitches in your colon that kind of push 283 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 2: your poop out, so when those nerves stop working, the 284 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 2: poop doesn't push out naturally anymore, and then again you 285 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 2: get constipated, and then you need to take laxatives again. 286 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 2: And I've actually gotten a few small boalt or large 287 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 2: bow colon resections on people who were laxative abusers because 288 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 2: their colon just like straight up stop working. So it's 289 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 2: so sad, and then you have to get a bag 290 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 2: and all. It's just terrible. Yeah, So at least you 291 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 2: know she's she said publicly, she's trying to come forward 292 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 2: with her experience because she understands the damaging effects it 293 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 2: had on her body now that she's going through it. 294 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 2: But she was like, you know, coming up as an 295 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 2: actress and everything, I just had this overwhelming feeling to 296 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 2: be skinny, and I thought everybody was gonna judge me. 297 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 2: And now I see that that didn't really matter because 298 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 2: I ended up hurting my body in a much worse way. 299 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 2: And when you hear stories like that, you could see 300 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 2: and this is just like everything in the world, right, 301 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 2: you could see why there's a movement to accept everyone's 302 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 2: body because you have people like this. I just saw 303 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 2: this clip on Facebook or Instagram one of these reels 304 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 2: that was showing an old episode of America's Next Top Model. 305 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 3: I remember we like religiously. 306 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 2: Used to watch that, and it was Tyra and Nigel 307 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 2: talking to some girl and telling her that she was 308 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 2: plus size. And she might have been like on a 309 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 2: bad day, like a size eight. Like they were telling 310 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 2: her she was plus size. And that was only what 311 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 2: in the nineties, like not even the night. It was 312 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 2: in the early two thousands, right, Well, yeah, and I 313 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 2: remember when I interned LL. I remember one of the 314 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 2: editors got you know, like they would brands would send 315 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 2: gifts and stuff, right so they'd be more likely to 316 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 2: feature said brand. And I remember we got this really 317 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 2: expensive pair of jeans and they were a size four, 318 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 2: and she kind of throws them, you know, in the 319 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 2: like trash pile. 320 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 3: Like these would never fit me. 321 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 2: I'd be swimming in them, and I'm like, well, I'm 322 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 2: gonna try to sausage my body into these fants because 323 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 2: they're expensives. I checked them home and at the time, 324 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 2: I was like a size four six, right, Like that's 325 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 2: like naturally the thinnest I can get with looking like ill. Right, 326 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 2: So I'm just like, it's ridiculous that we're making comments 327 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 2: like I'd be swimming in these and judging people. I 328 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 2: think the biggest thing we need to take away is 329 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 2: we have to just stop. We have to keep our 330 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 2: comments about other people's appearance to ourselves, right, Like why 331 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 2: do you feel the need to go out of the 332 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 2: way to go on somebody's Instagram and be like you 333 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 2: look disgusting blah blah blah. Now, yeah, I agree with that, 334 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 2: but like, and I feel like, I mean, do you 335 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 2: think if I'm telling people that they that being fat 336 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 2: could kill them? 337 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 3: Can is doing that? 338 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 1: Well? 339 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 2: I think people take it that way, but I think 340 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 2: you're just trying to book out and be like your 341 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:16,479 Speaker 2: insides need to be healthy. 342 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 3: I know, and I don't understand why. 343 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 2: Like I'm not like Tyra just being like, oh, you 344 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 2: have to be a plus sized model. 345 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 3: Because you eat too much. It's it's like, I don't 346 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,239 Speaker 3: give a shit what you look like. 347 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 2: It's just and honestly, like, I don't give a shit either, 348 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 2: because it's not me like I want to if you 349 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 2: want to have fat on your organs, like, go ahead. 350 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just putting it out there, like everyone 351 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 2: asked me all the time, what's the most common thing 352 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 2: you see? What's And it's just like I see young 353 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 2: women and when I say young, I'm like between fifty 354 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 2: and sixty years old that shouldn't be dead, and they're always, always, 355 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 2: always obese. 356 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 3: Like that's all I'm putting out there. 357 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, And like I just saw this interview with Dolly 358 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 2: Parton the other day. It was just filmed within the 359 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 2: last couple of weeks, and they asked what her biggest 360 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 2: fear was, and she said the way people treat each other. 361 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 2: And I'm like, this lady is in her late seventies 362 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 2: and has seen some serious shit and this is like 363 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 2: her number one fear in life. And I think she's 364 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:13,719 Speaker 2: being very genuine about it. I also think it's it's 365 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 2: definitely gotten worse since the Internet because because now it's 366 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 2: just like, oh, let's make a fake account, let's hide 367 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 2: behind this account, let's post you know, on Facebook, you 368 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 2: could post anominous. I can't say that word an ominously, 369 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 2: And yeah, it's just it's just that's what's happening now. 370 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 2: So it allows people to just be trolls behind their computer. 371 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 2: And back in the day when you had to deal 372 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,479 Speaker 2: with people in real life. You just did what everyone 373 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 2: else doesn't talk behind their back. 374 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 3: I know you're not mean to each other exactly. 375 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 2: I don't know you're you're a real special type of loser. 376 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 2: If you're a troll. That's just how I feel about it. Yeah, 377 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 2: or I agree with that, as Liian likes to say, losser. 378 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 3: That's what we've been saying in our family. All right, freak. 379 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 2: Accident, all right, this story is really sad. So in Knoxville, 380 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 2: a family's coming forward to talk about the dangers of 381 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 2: leaving pets unattended with children after their six week old 382 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 2: baby was attacked and killed by their family dog in 383 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 2: the baby's crib. So the family said, while their baby 384 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 2: was sleeping, one of their two dogs, which was a husky, 385 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 2: randomly attacked the baby in the crib. This dog had 386 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 2: not previously shown any signs of violent behavior. They had 387 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 2: the dog for eight years, and it was you know, 388 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 2: they really didn't see it coming. So police are looking 389 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 2: into this case, which the noise the news pointed out 390 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 2: was standard procedure. But you kind of wanted to discuss 391 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 2: a weird quote that was said. Yeah, So the mom 392 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 2: and I came across this because I saw a video 393 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 2: on Instagram with somebody showing the interview with the parents, 394 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 2: and then I was reading the comments underneath, thinking because 395 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 2: I always want to hear what people have to say, 396 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 2: and you know, you read comments and you're like, oh, oh, 397 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 2: like I could see why people are saying this, And 398 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 2: so here's one of the quotes from the video. 399 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 3: She said all that. 400 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 2: This is the mother said, all the sleepless nights and 401 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 2: the dirty diapers looking back, I wouldn't take I would 402 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 2: take one million sleepless nights and dirt, dirty diapers and 403 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 2: all the fussiness you would take back in a second 404 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 2: and never take any moment or second for granted. And 405 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 2: it's just like why, like why are you talking about 406 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 2: sleepless nights and a fussy baby? And when when the 407 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 2: kid just got killed by a dog? Like I just 408 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 2: feel like they don't really it's not really relevant, like 409 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 2: I does that sound weird or yeah, like I'm reading 410 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 2: this quote Like the quote again is really don't take 411 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 2: anything for granted, even if it's a moment you're annoyed 412 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 2: or in the moment where you're frustrated. So I do 413 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 2: think it was kind of an odd thing to say, 414 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 2: but at the same time, you know, people's brains totally 415 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 2: short circuit when they're grieving, and I mean my brain 416 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 2: short circuits every three minutes, So I understand that. And 417 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 2: I do know that everyone deals with death differently. It's 418 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 2: just there's a lot of different things. Like the other 419 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 2: thing is you have And I'd love to talk to 420 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 2: somebody because I'm not. 421 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 3: I don't have a dog. 422 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 2: I never had a dog, so I don't really one 423 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 2: hundred percent know how they behave. But I'm thinking like 424 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 2: a baby that's six weeks old, that they sleep hours 425 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 2: a day. It can't even roll over yet, right, It's 426 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 2: just like sitting there like a lump quiet, Like what 427 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 2: would make a dog get up, a big dog, a 428 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 2: Husky's a big dog, right, get up somehow into a 429 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 2: crib and just start ripping the thing to pieces a 430 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 2: dog that has no history of aggression. No, it just 431 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 2: like there's just something that sounds weird to me about that. 432 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 2: And I've heard of dogs biting children for sure, like 433 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 2: it happens all the time, but it's because the kid 434 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 2: like smacks the dog in the face or something, or 435 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 2: you know, a two year old's annoying and hyper and 436 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 2: in your face and they're at the same level of 437 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 2: them and stuff like this. This baby's like essentially like 438 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 2: a stuffed animal. Like why why would the dog just 439 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 2: attack it like that? It's just it just sounds I 440 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 2: mean they have it sounds weird attacked to look into it, 441 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 2: because the baby was attacked in the crib, Like you're saying, sleeping, 442 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 2: Why is such a large dog jumping in a crib? 443 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 2: Is that even com I mean, we don't have dogs, 444 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 2: so we don't really know, so we'd appreciate insight from 445 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 2: dog owners, especially people with babies, Like has your dog 446 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 2: jumped in the crib? Like? 447 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 3: Is this normal? 448 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 2: Are they just naturally interested in a new thing being 449 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 2: in the house. And I'm saying I'm not trying to 450 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 2: refer the baby as a thing. I'm just saying, like 451 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 2: it's a new presence in the house, right, So like 452 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 2: I don't really. 453 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 3: Don't like I could see cats, right, but like the 454 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 3: dogs climb like that. But I mean it's a I thought, 455 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 3: I'll husky was like like the size of like. 456 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 2: I feel like it would be. I wonder if it 457 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 2: like knocked a crib. Oh, I need more details of this. 458 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 2: I just I think it's odd that a full sized 459 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 2: dog like that would jump into a child's crib, which 460 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 2: arguably the dog could knock get over, but wasn't knocked over. 461 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 2: That's not really clear. So I just think we need 462 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 2: some more info about this case. It's not sitting right. 463 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 2: I know we have these stories every single week, honestly, 464 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 2: but we just don't even we don't even cover them 465 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 2: because it's it's just like. 466 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 3: It's a lot. But this this week there was another one. 467 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 2: So I was looking up to see how many people 468 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 2: die a year from dog attacks, and it's it says 469 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 2: it's only on average fifty people, but I guess we 470 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 2: hear about every single one on the news, so it 471 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 2: seems like a lot more probably. But there was a 472 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 2: lady in Southwest Ireland, a twenty three year old that 473 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 2: had this dog called an extra large bully. I don't 474 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 2: really because I think feel like my friend has a 475 00:23:56,040 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 2: little one and it's kind of like a cute little thing. 476 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 2: It doesn't look like it could really do anything. But 477 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 2: I don't know what an extra large bully is. But anyway, 478 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 2: she was just on there's videos of her on TikTok saying, quote, 479 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 2: this is my son and I don't give a fuck 480 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 2: if you think he looks aggressive, and I don't give 481 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 2: a fuck if you don't like the look at him. 482 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 2: And I surely don't give a fuck whether you think 483 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 2: the breed should be banned. And it killed her, but 484 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 2: most eerily. In one of her video captions, she said, quote, 485 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 2: but if one of us dies, I hope I die first. 486 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 2: So obviously, looking back, that's really scary to read. And 487 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 2: the dog did end up killing her, So I don't 488 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 2: think these countries are like banning dogs for no reason. 489 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 2: At the end of the day, I totally understand people 490 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 2: can have dogs and love them as your family and 491 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 2: your children, but you also have to understand that their 492 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 2: brains aren't human brains. They're not operating the same way 493 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,439 Speaker 2: they are animals, So we have. 494 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 3: To think about that. 495 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 2: You can love them like a human, but it doesn't 496 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,959 Speaker 2: mean they're going to start acting like a human. 497 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 498 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 2: I think that that's a definite point, because I think 499 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 2: that some people don't really it's not even that it's 500 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 2: just all animals and it's we actually this this next. 501 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 3: Story we have is involved an animal too. 502 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 2: A family was visiting the Fossil Room Wildlife Center in 503 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 2: Texas and decided to go through the safari in their 504 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 2: pickup truck. So at this park, the visitors are allowed 505 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 2: to drive themselves through a path, they get closer to 506 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 2: the animals and like feed them. Don't we have something 507 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 2: like this that the Six Flags in North Jersey they 508 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 2: have a drive through safari. They do, but I believe 509 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 2: that you're not allowed to roll the windows down. Okay, 510 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 2: So in this case, this mother and hers I remember 511 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 2: Gabe did and I was just like, dude, what are 512 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 2: you doing, Like, don't put the you know what I mean. Yeah, 513 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 2: So in this case, a mother and her two year 514 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 2: old daughter sat in the bed of the pickup truck 515 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 2: so totally out in the open. They had food in 516 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 2: their hand. I mean, I think they gave food out. 517 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 2: So I think they're encouraging you to feed the animals 518 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 2: at this one. So anyway, the toddler goes to hand 519 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 2: the giraffes from food, and the draft, accidentally trying to 520 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 2: grab the food, also clips the little girl's shirt and 521 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 2: lifts her out of her mother's arms, which is all 522 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 2: caught on video. It's absolutely nuts. It was only a 523 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 2: couple of seconds, but that must be so scary as 524 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 2: a parent and she ended up the draft ended up 525 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 2: releasing the baby back into the mother's lap. But I'm thinking, like, 526 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 2: what if something happened really quick and she dropped her 527 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 2: outside of the truck or something worse. You know, what 528 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 2: if it just went back up to its normal height 529 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 2: of whatever it is. I mean, how tall is a 530 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 2: draft twelve feet or I don't even know how tall 531 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 2: they are? Twelve and I know that's what I'm saying, 532 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 2: Like it just dropped the baby, like just dropped it, 533 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 2: let it go, not trying to hurt it, but it 534 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 2: could have. That's that's like a huge drop for a 535 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 2: little kid. But there's a zoo near us, the one 536 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 2: near momm's house that lets you feed drafts and stuff. 537 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 2: I think in general they're like really they've stample, like 538 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 2: stomped on a couple people in African safaris over the years, 539 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 2: but they don't generally hurt people unless they feel threatened. 540 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 2: And yeah, I don't think it was intentional, But this 541 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 2: is what I was saying about the animals situation, Like 542 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 2: the place that did this said, although an incident like 543 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 2: this has never occurred previously, we are taking immediate action 544 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 2: to make sure it won't happen again, Like, well, what 545 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 2: are you going to do that You're going to have 546 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 2: a presentation with all the giraffes and be like don't 547 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 2: grab a baby shirt like they're animals, they're if you're 548 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 2: totally unpredictable, I know, it's just like it's I mean, 549 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 2: I guess they just do that because they feel like 550 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 2: they have to address it, but like, come on, it's yeah, 551 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 2: it's just so ridiculous, and it's it's the same thing 552 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 2: we say all the time, like when a shark bites 553 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 2: an animal or or or bites a human or an 554 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 2: alligator or something and then they go to find it 555 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 2: to kill it to get revenge. 556 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 3: Like it's just so weird, it really. 557 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 2: I just I just keep having this visual of them, 558 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 2: like have this like meeting room situation with all these animals, 559 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 2: like don't do this next time? 560 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 3: What are you supposed to do? 561 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 2: And you know what's really interesting, we didn't mention the 562 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 2: dog that killed the six week baby. They did not 563 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 2: euthanize the dog, and the dog is currently alive. 564 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 3: In a shelter right now. 565 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 2: So well, we have this argument all the time though, 566 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 2: like if an animal is just acting like an animal, 567 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 2: does it deserve to die? 568 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 3: Well, this is my thing. 569 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 2: If you're talking about a shark or something that isn't 570 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 2: really ever supposed to be near a human or an alligator, even, 571 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 2: I don't see what the problem is of putting it 572 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 2: back in the wild because it lives in the wild 573 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 2: and it's like not supposed to be near humans anyway, 574 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 2: Like we're kind of in their space. But dogs live 575 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 2: with humans, so I mean, I don't know what the 576 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 2: circumstances are. And maybe that dog would be totally fine 577 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 2: living with like a seventy year old person and not 578 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 2: ever hurt any body again. But I just would be 579 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 2: kind of concerned, like why a dog that was perfectly 580 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 2: normal killed a baby? Well, you know what I mean, 581 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 2: Maybe they're waiting to see what the investigation brings up 582 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 2: before they decide to move forward with that or not. Yeah, 583 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 2: because where I mean, like what kind of life is 584 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 2: the dog going to have living in a cage too? 585 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 586 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 2: There has to be certain Yeah, I mean, maybe it's 587 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 2: kind of like sitting in limbo waiting for them to 588 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 2: analyze exactly what happened. It said there was some kind 589 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 2: of ten day like hole. There's something like that. It 590 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 2: was like a protocol that they did after this happened. 591 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 2: So maybe that's what they're doing, all right. This next 592 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 2: one's another story we're going to touch on somewhere in 593 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 2: the grosser room because of how crazy this video ended 594 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 2: up being. But basically, this train was going from Canada 595 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 2: to Mexico City. It's called the Final Spike Steam Tour, 596 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 2: so it's this very big attraction and in Mexico, the 597 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 2: train was coming by a full speed. In this video, 598 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 2: you see there are a ton of people totally unaware 599 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 2: that this train is Like I don't know, I've just 600 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 2: learned my whole life you don't go close to train tracks, right, 601 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 2: And there is an overwhelmingly large amount of people very 602 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 2: close to the train tracks. So this one woman decides 603 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 2: to crouch down to take a selfie with the train 604 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 2: in the background. Of course, this train's coming at full speed, 605 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,959 Speaker 2: so it you know, clips her on the side and 606 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 2: she ended up dying. It's yeah, I mean, you guys 607 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 2: have to see the video. It's just so outrageous and 608 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,959 Speaker 2: it is. It's not like one person taking the picture. 609 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 2: There's fifteen people that are standing way too close to 610 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 2: a train that's going however fast it's going. You know, 611 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 2: think about like if you were at a railroad crossing 612 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 2: and the arm was down, they were on the other 613 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 2: side of the arm, like way closer to the train 614 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 2: than they should have been, only a couple feet from 615 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 2: the tracks. And I think a lot of people also 616 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 2: don't know, like the train is not the way of 617 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 2: the tracks, it is much wider than the Yeah that duh. Yeah, 618 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 2: Like you have to think about that. When I was 619 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 2: just on the California Zephyr a couple of weeks ago, 620 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 2: you know, we were even driving in areas of ranches 621 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 2: where these cows like jail broke out of the designated 622 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 2: fence area and we're basically right on the track, and 623 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 2: I saw one tip over because of how fast they went. 624 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 2: But they're cows, I know. That's what I'm saying. That's 625 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 2: a cow doesn't know better. People should know better. 626 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:26,719 Speaker 3: Christ. 627 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 2: So this last one is again New Fear Unlocked. We 628 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 2: always talk about these stories every week. So in December, 629 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 2: a man was eating steak at a wedding reception, choked 630 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 2: and then died. 631 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, could you imagine if someone died at your wedding? No, 632 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 3: I really can't. 633 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 2: Just like how could you ever forget that, even if 634 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 2: it was just some random guests that you had to invite, 635 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 2: you know, Yeah, I mean, have you ever got a 636 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 2: situation damper on the evening? Have you ever had a 637 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 2: situation at a wedding that you've been at. I've really 638 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 2: been to that many weddings. No, They've been like on eventful. 639 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 2: When I was a little kid, I was at a 640 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 2: wedding on my dad's side and somebody had a heart 641 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 2: attack at the reception. Really yeah, that was like a 642 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 2: whole thing in the ambia and everything, And I was 643 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 2: what eight years old when that happened. 644 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 3: I will never forget that. 645 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do remember that actually. But this guy, they 646 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 2: were saying that this guy had had three drinks and 647 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 2: then he started choking. They thought something, they knew something 648 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 2: was wrong with them. And when you drink alcohol, it 649 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 2: does it does affect you're swallowing reflex. 650 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 3: So that could have something to do with that. How 651 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 3: old was he seventies? 652 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 2: I think he was, Yeah, I think he's older. But 653 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 2: also so he choked on steak, and like meat is 654 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 2: a big one people to choke on. Usually it's hot dogs. Honestly, 655 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 2: it's like the most common thing people choke on, especially children. 656 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 2: But because when you chew meat, you ever chew a 657 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 2: piece of meat, especially that like just doesn't break down 658 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 2: and it's. 659 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 3: Like a big bullus of food. 660 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 2: If somebody's choking, Like what is what's that average time? 661 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 2: Like you only have seconds or do you generally have 662 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 2: a couple of minutes or it just depends how big 663 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 2: the pieces. I don't I don't know exactly what the 664 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 2: time is for somebody to pass out like that, but 665 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 2: I do know that it's you would you know sometimes 666 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 2: like we were in the restaurant the other day and 667 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 2: there was a kid like coughing a lot, and everybody's 668 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,719 Speaker 2: like looking over and I'm like, if someone's really choking, 669 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 2: they're not making any noise. It's very quiet. And it's 670 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 2: the same with drowning. It's it's not like. 671 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 3: Help me, I'm I'm drowning and screaming, and it's just 672 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 3: it's quiet. 673 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 2: Because when you're having an asphyxial death, especially or you're 674 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 2: having asphyxia, like there's nothing you can't talk. It's you're 675 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 2: not going to be able to make noise because something's 676 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 2: blocking that hole, you know what I mean. So a 677 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 2: lot of times like if if you're not directly watching 678 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 2: someone when it happens, it's it's really scary, but you 679 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 2: can you can do things like the heimlick and stuff. 680 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 2: I remember it happened in my sister wants. I don't 681 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 2: know if I ever told you the story, but we 682 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 2: were at the softball field and it was me and 683 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 2: Annie and we were walking and she was having one 684 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 2: of these little pieces of candy that she got at 685 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 2: to candy stand that was it was like a life saver, 686 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 2: and then in the middle of it there was like 687 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 2: a whistle. So you would put it like up to 688 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 2: your lips and you would blow out and it would 689 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 2: like make a whistle noise. Right. Well, she put it 690 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 2: like in between her lips. She was probably like six 691 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 2: or seven and I was like eight. We were little, 692 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 2: and she put it in between her lips and she 693 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 2: like was blowing and then she sucked in and like 694 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 2: it went in her mouth. But it was like a 695 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,760 Speaker 2: lifesaver that wasn't even sucked on yet, like a full 696 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,439 Speaker 2: size thing. But there was a plug, like a hole. 697 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 2: The hole was plugged up, and we so happened to 698 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 2: be like walking with one of our softball coaches and 699 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 2: she noticed it right away, like we all noticed it 700 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 2: right away because she just couldn't talk and she gave 701 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 2: the heimlich and like it popped out. Yeah, but she 702 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 2: like like thank god that lady was there because you know, 703 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 2: you could have been really is I wouldn't have done 704 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 2: anything because I didn't know about that shit when I 705 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 2: was a little kid. You know. 706 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just so nuts how fast it was, 707 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,240 Speaker 3: and it was quiet. It was very quiet. 708 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 2: Until afterwards when we were all freaking out, But you know, 709 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 2: at the time. 710 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 3: It was it was nuts. This episode is brought to 711 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 3: you by the Grosser Room. 712 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 2: For example, this week we talked about a couple stories 713 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 2: of the train accident that we are going I don't 714 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 2: really know if we should consider it an accident, but 715 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 2: the woman that was taking a selfie in front of 716 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 2: the train. 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Yeah, So you can 726 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 2: visit the grossroom dot com for more info and to 727 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 2: sign up. Okay, let's get into violent crime. There is 728 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 2: scandalafoot at an elementary school outside of Houston, Texas. So 729 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 2: this is a lot first, let's get into the revenge 730 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 2: porn side. 731 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 3: Of this case. 732 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,280 Speaker 2: So a teacher at the school took several inappropriate videos 733 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 2: of herself, one of which with her bare breasts around 734 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 2: children's books and some toys, another taking her panties off 735 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 2: exposing herself in the bathroom. These were all clearly taken 736 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 2: on the campus of the school, and her you know, 737 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 2: teacher ID is in some of the videos, so she's 738 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 2: not trying to be secretive about it or anything anyway. 739 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,840 Speaker 2: So her ex boyfriend gets a hold of these and 740 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 2: starts sending them around. She had resigned from the school 741 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 2: back in February for undisclosed reasons, but the school is 742 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 2: saying they just found out about these videos within the 743 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 2: last couple of weeks. So do you think that that 744 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 2: she was sending these pictures to her boyfriend as like 745 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 2: some weird, kinky shit that they were into, like she 746 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,399 Speaker 2: might have. But there's this whole you know, if you're 747 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,879 Speaker 2: a Bravo fan at all, if you watch Vander pump 748 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,319 Speaker 2: Roll's revenge porn is like this huge deal right now 749 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,799 Speaker 2: because of a situation going on with two of the 750 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 2: cast members. Mark Gerregos is actually the lawyer in this 751 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 2: big revenge porn case. It's tied to Bravo. So you know, 752 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,360 Speaker 2: even if you take these videos and send it to 753 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,839 Speaker 2: a significant other with the intention of them seeing it, 754 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,240 Speaker 2: them sharing it outside of your bond could be considered 755 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 2: revenge porn. 756 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 3: So it's very interesting. Yeah, I just I don't. 757 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 2: Know, like at this point, why any adult would do 758 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 2: something like that. Well, many people do it, yeah, but 759 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,800 Speaker 2: like you know what's going to happen? No, it Incorrectay, 760 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 2: I could see children totally doing it, like teenagers and stuff, 761 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 2: because they just don't really understand how the internet works 762 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 2: and stuff. But why would you ever send something like 763 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,800 Speaker 2: that to a boyfriend. Well, I think it's ridiculous to 764 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 2: say you know what's going to happen, because you could 765 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 2: send it to a boyfriend that keeps it to himself. 766 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,839 Speaker 2: And never shares it with anybody, And it doesn't make 767 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 2: it right to share it with somebody. Just because you 768 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 2: send it to somebody doesn't mean they're guarantee going to 769 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 2: share it. You should go into it knowing that's a possibility, 770 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,919 Speaker 2: but it's not a guarantee that that's going to happen. Yeah, 771 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 2: but why would why would you ever take that chance? 772 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 2: It doesn't even matter if, like doing distance relationship, you 773 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 2: don't know what's going on, a lot of people do it. 774 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 2: Trust me, It's not a rare thing. But even like whatever, 775 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,359 Speaker 2: if you want to do regular whatever, But like this 776 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 2: is this is insane, like with some weird fetish, like 777 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,400 Speaker 2: you're taking pictures with children's books, like it's just to 778 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,720 Speaker 2: do it at your job, especially when you work with children, 779 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,399 Speaker 2: is disgusting behavior and you're an idiot for doing that. Yeah, 780 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 2: I'm just saying the whole concept of sending sexy videos 781 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 2: and pictures is not unique, but this is, like what 782 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 2: are you thinking sending pictures like this at your place 783 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 2: of work? Nobody should send it any place of work, 784 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 2: especially when children are involved. So that's idiotic. Anyway, there's 785 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 2: a whole second side of this, So at the same school. 786 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 2: There's also a murder scandal happening because, in a separate incident, 787 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 2: a thirty seven year old teaching aid who worked at 788 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 2: the school was found dead the day after her husband 789 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 2: suddenly resigned for his job, and they're looking into this 790 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,479 Speaker 2: as a murder. Do you think of go ever think 791 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 2: back whenever I hear stories about teachers and stuff. Now, 792 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 2: I always think back when I was a kid, and 793 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,800 Speaker 2: like when I was a kid, I did my teachers 794 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 2: were all, like most of them were like nice and magical, 795 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,720 Speaker 2: especially in elementary school because as an elementary school, right, yeah, 796 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 2: they just you don't ever really think of them as 797 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 2: like real people, you know, I don't know. 798 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's like even. 799 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 2: Now, like the kids at the teachers at my kid's school, 800 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 2: they're just like really nice, sweet people. And when you 801 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 2: start to But then you had this teacher once that 802 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 2: that we knew that we knew that she was like 803 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 2: kind of like a drunk slut outside of school. 804 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,839 Speaker 3: And I did go into the bar. 805 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I well you I didn't tell you at the time, 806 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 2: but like I kind of knew because that's when Facebook 807 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 2: was like a thing and you were seeing what was 808 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 2: going on on the weekend, and it was just like 809 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 2: kind of weird to ever see like teachers acting that way. 810 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,280 Speaker 2: You don't want to think about, like the decisions that 811 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 2: that people are making like that are like essentially raising 812 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 2: your kids. 813 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,319 Speaker 3: You know, your teacher offline, I'm going to need to 814 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 3: know this. 815 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,799 Speaker 2: Okay, I think I have an idea who it was, 816 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 2: but but it's you know what I mean, like the 817 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,439 Speaker 2: teachers with my kid, like all day long, I don't 818 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 2: want to think about the like crazy shit that she's 819 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 2: doing outside taking weird pictures and sending them like oh, oh, kids, 820 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,880 Speaker 2: I have to go to the bathroom real quick, okay, 821 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 2: And then she goes to the bathroom and she's like 822 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 2: lifting up her shirt and taking pictures like it's completely inappropriate. 823 00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 2: It's it's nuts, right to think to think about that. 824 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,839 Speaker 2: So and you're just like, what's going on in this 825 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 2: school that these two major things are happening, like, oh, well, 826 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 2: we don't have a third grade teacher right now and 827 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 2: a fifth grade teacher because one is in a revenge 828 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 2: porn case and the other one is murdered. 829 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 3: Like it's just so nuts. 830 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 2: One time, so I had a job right when I 831 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 2: graduated high school at this local restaurant and when I was, 832 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 2: you know, probably eighteen or nineteen, one of my teachers 833 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,840 Speaker 2: from high school came in and got like blackout drunk, 834 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,919 Speaker 2: and I felt like it was such an invasion of 835 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,960 Speaker 2: like my privacy, Like I can't expect this is I 836 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,319 Speaker 2: don't know if that's the right phrase, Like, yeah, it's 837 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,279 Speaker 2: not the right phrase at all. I can't think right now. 838 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:47,080 Speaker 2: I'm having like major Friday trial. Trust, Like, all I 839 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 2: saw this person was like you're saying, in this like magical, 840 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,919 Speaker 2: polite environment where they're this like awesome teacher, and then 841 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 2: to see them on the other end being a normal 842 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,720 Speaker 2: person is so weirdest. 843 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 3: I hate that too. It's it is, it's just like 844 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:02,799 Speaker 3: it's growing. 845 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,880 Speaker 2: Obviously, teachers are real people and have real wives and 846 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 2: families and are allowed to go drink and do everything 847 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:10,719 Speaker 2: else normal people do. 848 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 3: But when you're like on the other end of that 849 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 3: and then see, it is such a weird thing. 850 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,240 Speaker 2: Well, one of my cousins, our cousins is a teacher 851 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,319 Speaker 2: and she has like a fake name and all these 852 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 2: restrictions on her Facebook because she doesn't want any of 853 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 2: her students to like a lot of people do, yeah, 854 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,319 Speaker 2: which I think makes total sense. But I guess back 855 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 2: when you were a student, this was I mean when 856 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 2: were you in middle school? 857 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 3: In high school? 858 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,360 Speaker 2: I mean Facebook came out when I was in middle school, 859 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 2: so like what year was that, two thousand and. 860 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 3: Like what grade? 861 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 2: Like Facebook came out when I was in like fourth grade. No, 862 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,360 Speaker 2: but I'm saying when you were in middle school and 863 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,319 Speaker 2: this was happening with this teacher, I think it was 864 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,839 Speaker 2: like two thousand and six or two thousand and seven ish. 865 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 2: I can't think so a teacher this was I need 866 00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 2: or maybe maybe it was even before that, like any 867 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:05,400 Speaker 2: time that time, so I get in no later, but anyway, yeah, 868 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:09,279 Speaker 2: I think that was before like people really understood that, 869 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 2: like what was happening that when you post stuff like 870 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 2: everybody could see it. 871 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,240 Speaker 3: I know, people still don't understand. 872 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 2: A whole rant about this last week with boomers and 873 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 2: not understanding. Yeah, and we had two situations this week 874 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,480 Speaker 2: of it again, so it's just like it's it's out 875 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 2: of cont this time. However, Beth was not a guilty party, 876 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:31,840 Speaker 2: so well Beth was not she gets this week. No, Yeah, 877 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,239 Speaker 2: like what as a parent, how would you feel if 878 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,880 Speaker 2: this was going on? Obviously, these like, in my opinion, 879 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,279 Speaker 2: these situations, you're totally isolated from one another, right, Like 880 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,239 Speaker 2: it just so happens to be coincidental other happening at 881 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:44,880 Speaker 2: the same school. But how would you feel as a 882 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 2: parent with like one teacher showing up murdered another one 883 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,239 Speaker 2: taking pornographic pictures in your child's classroom. 884 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,960 Speaker 3: But I don't know, I don't know. 885 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,799 Speaker 2: I mean, we had a shady situation with one of 886 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 2: the teachers at our school getting let go, and I'm 887 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,320 Speaker 2: not okay with it, you know what I mean. Well, yeah, 888 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,320 Speaker 2: I mean I think it really depends how the school 889 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,839 Speaker 2: decides to, you know, address this and how they're going 890 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 2: to take yeah steps moving forward. Unlike with the giraffe story, 891 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 2: they can have a meeting with them like don't do 892 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,800 Speaker 2: this please. So I don't know that it's just crazy 893 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,360 Speaker 2: that you can't prevent yourself from getting murdered most of 894 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:20,719 Speaker 2: the time. 895 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:21,840 Speaker 3: But the porn thing. 896 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,880 Speaker 2: Is like, come on, dude, that that to me is 897 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,600 Speaker 2: just like a like an adult life lesson. Just well 898 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:32,440 Speaker 2: you should know if you're taking pictures of yourself inappropriately 899 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:37,400 Speaker 2: in a really inappropriate environment, that it's probably going to 900 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 2: come back to But you and the ass but I 901 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,400 Speaker 2: don't know. Let's move on to the next. In twenty 902 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 2: twenty one, a fourteen year old girl and her boyfriend 903 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:49,239 Speaker 2: started receiving these harassing messages on social media over ten 904 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 2: times a day. So this went on for, you know, 905 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:55,080 Speaker 2: about over a year. So she told her mother named Kendra, 906 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,239 Speaker 2: who then went to the police and worked with the 907 00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 2: boyfriend's mother to try to track down this bully. So 908 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 2: after local authorities couldn't figure it out, they called in 909 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,279 Speaker 2: the FBI, who discovered the messages were coming from a 910 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,000 Speaker 2: private network. You know, we're seeing a lot of ads 911 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:13,200 Speaker 2: recently for companies that offer VPNs and these private networks 912 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,799 Speaker 2: and stuff, so it was used through that. So this 913 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,880 Speaker 2: you have to know, this person is taking extra steps 914 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,840 Speaker 2: to make sure they're concealing their IP address and everything. 915 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,520 Speaker 2: After further digging, the FBI discovered the IP address was 916 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,800 Speaker 2: coming from a device owned by the girl's mother, Kendra. 917 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,960 Speaker 2: So now there's this lifetime movie coming out called Mommy 918 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 2: Minas starring one of my favorite housewives of all time, 919 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,760 Speaker 2: Lisa Renna. I'm going to watch this tonight for sure 920 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,480 Speaker 2: now that we're talking about this, But it's kind of 921 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,600 Speaker 2: inspired by the story of like, what would drive this 922 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:49,880 Speaker 2: mother to cyber bully their daughter for seemingly absolutely no 923 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,480 Speaker 2: reason and ruin their daughter's life. And now she was 924 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:57,400 Speaker 2: arrested and she's serving time, and well they coined a 925 00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:01,239 Speaker 2: term that's called cyber munch housing. I think is amazing, 926 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:05,279 Speaker 2: which is just get it's it must be a new thing, 927 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,279 Speaker 2: because they must not they must have seen it more 928 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 2: than once. But it's the mom getting attention because her 929 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,359 Speaker 2: daughter's getting bullied. But the mom is the one that's 930 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:17,719 Speaker 2: actually creating the attention. Yeah, it's I actually do that 931 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,279 Speaker 2: to you. All these mean comments you start, you get 932 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,279 Speaker 2: all the time, they're all me, Yeah, thanks, I have 933 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,120 Speaker 2: a bunch of like burner accounts that I just harass 934 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:26,919 Speaker 2: you all day. 935 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 3: Thank you very much. I still need you. 936 00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,840 Speaker 2: It makes me feel better as a person to insults you. 937 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,239 Speaker 2: I need you as a thirty year old person, you know. 938 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 2: So yeah, So Kendra was charged in December of twenty 939 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 2: twenty two. When they initially you know, approached her and 940 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 2: were like, we know you did this, she fully confessed 941 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:46,880 Speaker 2: to it because she didn't want to go to trial, 942 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,160 Speaker 2: probably because she didn't want the contents of said messages 943 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 2: being read in a courtroom, That's what I was gonna say, 944 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,279 Speaker 2: Like I hate that they're like, oh, the prosecution has 945 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 2: not released them, but they're really mean. They're like really 946 00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,480 Speaker 2: really mean, and I'm like, God, I wanted read them 947 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 2: so bad. 948 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:01,919 Speaker 3: Release them. 949 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,120 Speaker 2: I don't think you need a troll account to say 950 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:08,680 Speaker 2: something need to I just I'm curious, Like what the 951 00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 2: hell was she saying to this kid? It's actually really interesting, 952 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 2: like to like it's this weird form of mental abuse, 953 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,600 Speaker 2: Like how does that girl feel knowing that her mom 954 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,960 Speaker 2: did this? To be trolled by your own mother at 955 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,759 Speaker 2: fourteen years old, Like you're just innocently going about your 956 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,480 Speaker 2: life and your mom's harassing you on the internet. 957 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:29,879 Speaker 3: Like what a nutjob? Man? 958 00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,879 Speaker 2: No, absolutely crazy. This circles back to my argument about 959 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:36,400 Speaker 2: troll culture, Like you're an absolute loser if you're taking 960 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,760 Speaker 2: the time to like this. This mother not only bullied 961 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,880 Speaker 2: her child, but took all these extra steps to access 962 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,000 Speaker 2: through a private network, try to conceal her IP address, 963 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,400 Speaker 2: She went to the police station, fill out a rapport. 964 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,680 Speaker 2: All that shit takes time, Like, yes, fucking hobby lady, Yeah, 965 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,279 Speaker 2: Like there's plenty of stuff you could be doing other 966 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,439 Speaker 2: than you know, harassing your child. So now your kid 967 00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,200 Speaker 2: definitely fucking hate you. You're in jail for this. You're 968 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,760 Speaker 2: never gonna have a good relationship with her. You've broken 969 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:07,200 Speaker 2: all forms of trust. Good going parent of the year, Yeah, exactly. 970 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:08,160 Speaker 3: Okay. 971 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 2: One of our grocery members sent this next story in 972 00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,160 Speaker 2: so a three year old boy and his mother were 973 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,840 Speaker 2: stabbed in an apparent random act of violence in a 974 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 2: grocery store parking lot in Ohio. So this thirty two 975 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,520 Speaker 2: year old woman was taken into custody for the attack 976 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,320 Speaker 2: after being found by police still walking around holding the 977 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,960 Speaker 2: knife after the attack. They're saying that she got the 978 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,200 Speaker 2: knife from a local thrift store, walked over to the 979 00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,800 Speaker 2: grocery store, essentially stalked them out inside the store, followed 980 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,959 Speaker 2: them out, and then stabbed both of them. 981 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,160 Speaker 3: It's so terrible. It is terrible. 982 00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,279 Speaker 2: These are the worst stories ever, because when you go 983 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:45,000 Speaker 2: I always find it easier to justify violence or deaths 984 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:46,920 Speaker 2: or anything if you can kind of go back and 985 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,360 Speaker 2: dissect out what happened and figured out like, Okay, well 986 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,360 Speaker 2: maybe if she was arrested before, this wouldn't have happened 987 00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,279 Speaker 2: and we could learn next time. And it's like when 988 00:48:56,320 --> 00:49:00,400 Speaker 2: you go back, she only had like the only higher 989 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:04,280 Speaker 2: offenses she had were like stealing something from Walmart. I think, yeah, 990 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:09,040 Speaker 2: like she haddicational history. Yeah, so it's like no indication 991 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,359 Speaker 2: that this something like this was going to happen. They 992 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,320 Speaker 2: sell knives at the thrift store, they sell knives at Walmart, 993 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,920 Speaker 2: they sell knives at Target. Like, it's just people need 994 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 2: knives to cut their steak, you know, Like, and I 995 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,680 Speaker 2: don't think stealing is, you know, an indication that you're 996 00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:25,480 Speaker 2: going to be violent. 997 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:29,360 Speaker 3: I think a lot of people steal. Yeah, yeah, exactly. 998 00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,880 Speaker 2: So it's like that there's just like nothing to go 999 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:37,120 Speaker 2: back and say that this that this could have been prevented. 1000 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:38,839 Speaker 3: And that's the scariest part. 1001 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,840 Speaker 2: And it's like this poor mom goes to a grocery 1002 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:46,400 Speaker 2: store in the afternoon on a seemingly slow day, walking 1003 00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,360 Speaker 2: back to this to put your groceries in the trunk, 1004 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,520 Speaker 2: and this just happened. And we haven't even said the 1005 00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,400 Speaker 2: worst part of this, which is the mother did not 1006 00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,600 Speaker 2: have life threatening injuries, but the todler. 1007 00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,359 Speaker 3: Ended up dying from it. Yeah, it's just it's just 1008 00:49:58,400 --> 00:49:59,120 Speaker 3: so terrible. 1009 00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,200 Speaker 2: So your try murdered in front of you, for no 1010 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,719 Speaker 2: reason at all, when you're just doing an everyday task 1011 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,080 Speaker 2: like grocery shopping. Yeah, I just can't even imagine, and 1012 00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,960 Speaker 2: you could. There's statements from the government or statements from 1013 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,360 Speaker 2: the grocery store, like everybody just feels disgusting about this, 1014 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:20,040 Speaker 2: and clearly, like the lady that that was also what 1015 00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,520 Speaker 2: was disturbing was they said there was no altercation in 1016 00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:27,200 Speaker 2: the parking lot, no altercation in the store, like she 1017 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 2: didn't know her, she just like randomly came up to 1018 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 2: her and clearly like suffering some kind of mental health 1019 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,239 Speaker 2: issue because you don't just do that. It's just like 1020 00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:41,280 Speaker 2: it's just one of those like terrible, sad all around stories. 1021 00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,399 Speaker 3: It's just terrible, all right. 1022 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,440 Speaker 2: In other horrible news, a newborn baby was found abandoned 1023 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,000 Speaker 2: earlier this year in London by a dog walker. The 1024 00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 2: baby was wrapped in a towel inside of a bag 1025 00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,360 Speaker 2: on the coldest night of the year. So the BBC 1026 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:58,040 Speaker 2: had noticed noted in this article that abandonment of children 1027 00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:01,880 Speaker 2: in the UK is something that's incredibly rare. Yeah, and 1028 00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:05,880 Speaker 2: it's not so rare here. Unfortunately, they actually started putting 1029 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:10,120 Speaker 2: these safe boxes in fire stations, encouraging people that if 1030 00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,840 Speaker 2: they had a pregnancy that they didn't want and they 1031 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:14,960 Speaker 2: they didn't get an abortion and they went to term 1032 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,160 Speaker 2: or whatever reason they didn't want the baby, that they 1033 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,920 Speaker 2: would drop it off safe. I think it's called like 1034 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,680 Speaker 2: a safehapen law maybe or something I don't remember, but 1035 00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:24,719 Speaker 2: you would drop the baby off safe and as long 1036 00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:26,840 Speaker 2: as the baby was safe and put into this box 1037 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,080 Speaker 2: at the fire department, there would be no questions asked. 1038 00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,120 Speaker 2: It was like a don't ask, don't tell, and then 1039 00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:34,520 Speaker 2: the baby would get adopted out. 1040 00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:36,560 Speaker 3: We talked about this on earlier episode. 1041 00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:40,560 Speaker 2: One of the firemen actually adopted the baby, which was 1042 00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:44,680 Speaker 2: like such a cool story. So in this case they 1043 00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:48,440 Speaker 2: think it's it's weird because it never happens there, so 1044 00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:52,920 Speaker 2: they've already had it happen a couple other times. Yeah, 1045 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,440 Speaker 2: So when they found this baby, they ran DNA testing 1046 00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:00,560 Speaker 2: and actually found that this baby was linked wise as 1047 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,600 Speaker 2: a full sibling to two other babies that were found 1048 00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:07,360 Speaker 2: in a similar manner in twenty seventeen and twenty nineteen. 1049 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:11,640 Speaker 2: So basically the same set of parents have now abandoned 1050 00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:15,560 Speaker 2: three children in the same exact manner, like three full 1051 00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:19,600 Speaker 2: term infants. Yes, baby that was just found had the 1052 00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,600 Speaker 2: umbilical cord still attached, and was estimated to be about 1053 00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:26,400 Speaker 2: an hour old. So this woman went through three pregnancies 1054 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,680 Speaker 2: with the same guy and gave the baby up, but 1055 00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,600 Speaker 2: didn't safely give the baby up. And that's why we 1056 00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,520 Speaker 2: have it under the violent crime section because they left 1057 00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,560 Speaker 2: the baby in sub zero temperatures to die for someone 1058 00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:42,000 Speaker 2: to find, and luckily somebody found it. Yeah, so what 1059 00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,160 Speaker 2: we like hearing in this case is that these babies 1060 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,359 Speaker 2: were all safe. The older children had been adopted, and 1061 00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,000 Speaker 2: this baby is in foster care for now, so hopefully 1062 00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:56,160 Speaker 2: she will be adopted out soon. It's just really nuts, right, yeah, 1063 00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,200 Speaker 2: I mean why this is like, could you imagine doing 1064 00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,080 Speaker 2: that once? You'd be like, Okay, this is never happening again. 1065 00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:06,760 Speaker 2: This is terrible. I can't I can't imagine doing it once. 1066 00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,520 Speaker 2: But I know, you know, people are in certain like 1067 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:14,560 Speaker 2: mental situations or in certain life situations where they genuinely 1068 00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:16,319 Speaker 2: don't know what to do and it doesn't make it right, 1069 00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,480 Speaker 2: but like I have more of an understanding. But to 1070 00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,440 Speaker 2: do it two and then three times. 1071 00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:27,360 Speaker 3: It's like you need to control yourself. Yeah, just I 1072 00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:31,000 Speaker 3: don't know. I mean, they're the couple's been together for years. 1073 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:34,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, clearly, And like I don't know, I'm just like, 1074 00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,560 Speaker 2: is it is it a situation of like incest or 1075 00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:42,440 Speaker 2: something horrible, Like I don't know, like just stop having kids, 1076 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,960 Speaker 2: stop having kids or use protection or something like. It 1077 00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:46,680 Speaker 2: just finds completely unacceptable. 1078 00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:51,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, I do too. But I mean, now DNA is 1079 00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:52,879 Speaker 3: a you know, we always say this is a whole 1080 00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,080 Speaker 3: new ball game. They'll find who the parents are and 1081 00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:56,040 Speaker 3: they're gonna go to jail. 1082 00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:00,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, because this can't you know, I mean, they're lucky 1083 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:02,920 Speaker 2: that somebody found the babies, that's all. Like when I 1084 00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:06,480 Speaker 2: was waiting, it's child abuse and it's child neglect. When 1085 00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,719 Speaker 2: I was waiting for a session at Crime Con, they 1086 00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,120 Speaker 2: had like little commercials before the session and there was 1087 00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,919 Speaker 2: one for jed Match and in the commercial they said, 1088 00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,840 Speaker 2: over four hundred cold cases have been solved since Jedmatch 1089 00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:20,279 Speaker 2: came out, and like, people must be shitting themselves if 1090 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:24,080 Speaker 2: they've committed crimes in the past. Yeah, right, It's it's nuts. 1091 00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,760 Speaker 2: And that's what you hear. Like these people are getting 1092 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,120 Speaker 2: caught and they're eighty years old. They committed a crime, 1093 00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,120 Speaker 2: you know, fifty years ago, and shit, it's just so nuts, 1094 00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,360 Speaker 2: Like you might think your whole entire life has lived 1095 00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:35,200 Speaker 2: out and now. 1096 00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:38,480 Speaker 3: I want to know who the parents are. 1097 00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,920 Speaker 2: I wish we could talk to them and just be like, so, 1098 00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,040 Speaker 2: what's the deal, Like what are you thinking here? 1099 00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:44,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. 1100 00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,760 Speaker 2: And like they were saying in this article that typically 1101 00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,759 Speaker 2: they wouldn't release information like this in the UK, but 1102 00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:53,719 Speaker 2: because of how extremely rare child abandonment is, mixed with 1103 00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,759 Speaker 2: the fact that three full blooded siblings have been abandoned 1104 00:54:57,760 --> 00:54:59,239 Speaker 2: all in the same way over the course of a 1105 00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,480 Speaker 2: couple of years, had to mention it for public interests. 1106 00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:04,160 Speaker 3: So and also like. 1107 00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,960 Speaker 2: Just think about normal people that go to work or 1108 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:13,160 Speaker 2: have friends or have family, Like nobody noticed that this 1109 00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,400 Speaker 2: woman that you're friends with, this couple, this couple's like 1110 00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,560 Speaker 2: your kid, this couple you work with, whatever, And nobody 1111 00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,879 Speaker 2: noticed that this woman was pregnant all the way full 1112 00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:26,080 Speaker 2: term three times and doesn't have any kids, Like where'd 1113 00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:29,239 Speaker 2: the kids go? I don't know what's going on on 1114 00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,160 Speaker 2: the other end, I would very much like to hear 1115 00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:33,839 Speaker 2: this story about what's going on. 1116 00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,600 Speaker 3: So all right, let's get into medical news. 1117 00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,160 Speaker 2: A new study has come out debunking that men are 1118 00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:43,400 Speaker 2: more likely to buy guns to make up for unsatisfactory 1119 00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,399 Speaker 2: penis size. Actually, the study found that men who are 1120 00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:49,080 Speaker 2: more comfortable with their penis size are more likely to 1121 00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:49,840 Speaker 2: buy guns. 1122 00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:51,640 Speaker 3: I love this. 1123 00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:55,359 Speaker 2: You know. I was talking to someone at Crime Con 1124 00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:59,719 Speaker 2: had messaged me on Instagram about some comment I made 1125 00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:03,160 Speaker 2: about my brain being all jambled up all the time 1126 00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,040 Speaker 2: because of menopause. And we were talking about this, how 1127 00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:10,319 Speaker 2: like menopause affects like literally like half of the population 1128 00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,120 Speaker 2: that are female, right, and they don't really like do 1129 00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,759 Speaker 2: anything to try to fix it. And it's like, but 1130 00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:19,000 Speaker 2: I'm glad researchers are spending their time to see that, 1131 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:23,120 Speaker 2: like penis size and gun ownership are have to be 1132 00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:26,560 Speaker 2: a correlation of some sort. Yeah, you opened your session 1133 00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:29,440 Speaker 2: being like, excuse me if there's like a lapse in 1134 00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,920 Speaker 2: me talking or I fumble some words, So them going 1135 00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,799 Speaker 2: through menopause, And a lot of people resonated with that 1136 00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,080 Speaker 2: and thought that was awesome that you said it out loud, 1137 00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,840 Speaker 2: because it's kind of this like unspoken thing people have 1138 00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,279 Speaker 2: to go through. And I know you were talking about 1139 00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,520 Speaker 2: it with a couple of people backstage too, So yeah, 1140 00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,160 Speaker 2: because because it happens, like I'm just I said, like, 1141 00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:52,600 Speaker 2: if I just look like I'm like staring dead in space, 1142 00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:56,880 Speaker 2: I just like forget what it happened to me. Yesterday, 1143 00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:58,960 Speaker 2: I went in the house to get Lilian's and haller 1144 00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:00,799 Speaker 2: and I walked in and I just like, why did 1145 00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,440 Speaker 2: I come in here? And I stood in here for 1146 00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,560 Speaker 2: five minutes and I was like, I just can't I 1147 00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,399 Speaker 2: can't remember why I came in here. Like it's it's 1148 00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:12,160 Speaker 2: terrible because I always pride myself on my excellent memory. 1149 00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:16,320 Speaker 2: And but the short term is is really getting nasty 1150 00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,520 Speaker 2: with menopause. But like, I'm sure there's some kind of 1151 00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:22,680 Speaker 2: way to fix it, but no, let's let's. 1152 00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:24,440 Speaker 3: Do these kind of studies. 1153 00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,840 Speaker 2: It just makes so much more sense of all the 1154 00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:27,840 Speaker 2: things in the world. 1155 00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:31,720 Speaker 3: We could be putting studies on why this. 1156 00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I could sleep better tonight knowing that 1157 00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,840 Speaker 2: men that are satisfied with their penis sizes are the 1158 00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:39,600 Speaker 2: ones that are actually buying guns. 1159 00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:40,880 Speaker 3: Like good for you. 1160 00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:46,280 Speaker 2: So, okay, let's talk about this new trend called drunk urexia. 1161 00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:50,200 Speaker 2: So they're saying they're thinking that this is actually going 1162 00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:54,280 Speaker 2: to be considered a diagnosable thing, although it's not yet, 1163 00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:58,480 Speaker 2: but it's people that it's a combination of people who 1164 00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:03,280 Speaker 2: are drinking alcoholic as well as people who are anorexic 1165 00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:08,240 Speaker 2: or having an eating disorder. And it's so crazy it 1166 00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:12,000 Speaker 2: because it's more common in women and especially like younger women, 1167 00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:15,680 Speaker 2: in college aged women. And they did a research sample 1168 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:20,920 Speaker 2: size of Australian female university students and found that seventy 1169 00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:25,360 Speaker 2: nine point one percent of them reported engaging in this behavior, 1170 00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:31,000 Speaker 2: which is starving yourself in order to drink more calories 1171 00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,440 Speaker 2: or just to be able to have more alcohol and 1172 00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:40,400 Speaker 2: consuming less actual food. I know people that do this, Yes, 1173 00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:43,920 Speaker 2: I do too, and I yeah, I think it's just 1174 00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:45,520 Speaker 2: like common knowledge people do this. 1175 00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,720 Speaker 3: It's kind of wild that there's like a term for 1176 00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:48,200 Speaker 3: it now. 1177 00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,840 Speaker 2: I mean, there's a part of me that thinks that 1178 00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,160 Speaker 2: there should be some level of this because I know 1179 00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:58,960 Speaker 2: a lot of people who like to eat, like people 1180 00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,040 Speaker 2: that struggle with their way and people who like to 1181 00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,040 Speaker 2: eat like me. I'd struggle with my weight and I 1182 00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,480 Speaker 2: eat a lot, but I don't drink alcohol, so if 1183 00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:09,280 Speaker 2: I did, I'd be adding that extra like couple hundred 1184 00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:12,480 Speaker 2: to thousand calories just drinking a night on top of 1185 00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:16,560 Speaker 2: eating two thousand calories three thousand calories whatever you're having 1186 00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:18,520 Speaker 2: if you go out to dinner. So I think a 1187 00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:22,240 Speaker 2: lot of people don't put the two and two together. 1188 00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,960 Speaker 2: That you could also drink your calories, which can contribute 1189 00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:28,360 Speaker 2: to obesity. So I think people should be more aware 1190 00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:30,480 Speaker 2: of it. Like if you want to drink a lot 1191 00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:32,960 Speaker 2: one night, let's say, maybe you should get a salad 1192 00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:36,680 Speaker 2: instead of like a steak with a fried onion. That 1193 00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:39,640 Speaker 2: that's three thousand calories. Like you should be aware of 1194 00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:43,000 Speaker 2: it and think that way, but not like you should 1195 00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,760 Speaker 2: starve yourselving yourself, yeah, and deplete yourself with food and calories. 1196 00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,120 Speaker 3: I just think just making kind of like better. 1197 00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,000 Speaker 2: Choices, Like I think that's not good for your body 1198 00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,280 Speaker 2: also to have like nothing in your stomach at all 1199 00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:56,720 Speaker 2: to kind of absorb it. Yeah, And that's what's happening. 1200 00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:58,920 Speaker 2: Like there're bings drinking and then and then you're not 1201 00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,120 Speaker 2: like if you especially you're a college student and you're 1202 01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:06,040 Speaker 2: not eating all day and then you're drinking alcohol that's 1203 01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,200 Speaker 2: like your only nutrients of the day. So you're getting 1204 01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:12,880 Speaker 2: drunk faster, you're depriving your body of vitamins and nutrients, 1205 01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:14,760 Speaker 2: and you're trying to have your brain work because. 1206 01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:15,360 Speaker 3: You're in college. 1207 01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:17,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, like, what do you think is going to come 1208 01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:21,439 Speaker 2: with that? So no, it's not good all right. Other 1209 01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:25,120 Speaker 2: death news, Back in October, a Morgue worker named Ryan 1210 01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:28,000 Speaker 2: Smith had been arrested after breaking into a dead guy's 1211 01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:31,320 Speaker 2: apartment attempting to steal a textile. So, if you're a 1212 01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:33,560 Speaker 2: grocery remember, you may recall that we talked about this 1213 01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,040 Speaker 2: story before when it was first reported and he had 1214 01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:39,240 Speaker 2: been arrested. But Law and Crime has some more details 1215 01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:43,240 Speaker 2: about the case. Now, just a little background. So on 1216 01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:46,360 Speaker 2: October sixth, police got a call about a dead mail 1217 01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:49,480 Speaker 2: and an apartment. The detective then called a local funeral 1218 01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:52,560 Speaker 2: home to transport the body, which this is standard protocol, 1219 01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:57,040 Speaker 2: right yeah, well yeah, well that have to get someone 1220 01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:59,520 Speaker 2: to bring the body, so it would either be in 1221 01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:01,680 Speaker 2: some case, says the police would just bring the body 1222 01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:04,600 Speaker 2: to the medical examiner or the coroner's office, but other 1223 01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,360 Speaker 2: times they call other transport. 1224 01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,120 Speaker 3: To come pick them up. It just depends on the situation. 1225 01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:12,240 Speaker 2: Okay, So the funeral home sends two workers, one of 1226 01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:16,080 Speaker 2: which was Ryan. So the detective wrote, quote near the 1227 01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:18,960 Speaker 2: body on the bed was a very real life sized 1228 01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:21,680 Speaker 2: version of an adult female. Both of the males that 1229 01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,360 Speaker 2: came to collect the body made comments about the sex 1230 01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:28,160 Speaker 2: doll found on location. Later that day, the detective gets 1231 01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:31,240 Speaker 2: a call from the apartment manager saying that somebody who 1232 01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:35,760 Speaker 2: aka Ryan called looking to retrieve the sex doll, saying 1233 01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:38,240 Speaker 2: that they the sheriff needed it for evidence and they 1234 01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:42,200 Speaker 2: quote wanted it to collect swabs for biopsy, which makes 1235 01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,760 Speaker 2: no sense. I'm not even a medical professional and I 1236 01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:49,400 Speaker 2: know that makes no sense at all. So anyway, whoever 1237 01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:51,760 Speaker 2: took the call let him go back in. They didn't 1238 01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:55,840 Speaker 2: really question it. So then they walk by the apartment 1239 01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,760 Speaker 2: later that night and notice the door is shut and locked, 1240 01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:02,200 Speaker 2: so the maer then proceeds to go open the door 1241 01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:05,520 Speaker 2: and finds Ryan all disheveled with his shirt untucked and 1242 01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:09,480 Speaker 2: his pants lightly down. So they call the detective and 1243 01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:11,480 Speaker 2: they go back to the scene and find that the 1244 01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:16,040 Speaker 2: sextyle had been quote altered and other evidence on the 1245 01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:18,440 Speaker 2: scene had been moved. So now, in fact, they have 1246 01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:21,360 Speaker 2: to take this sex style for DNA evidence because this 1247 01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,440 Speaker 2: gross dude went back and had sex with it. Clearly, 1248 01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:28,400 Speaker 2: they said that there was the gloved hand felt a 1249 01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:33,480 Speaker 2: sticky substance on the doll. Like blesting, well, this is 1250 01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:36,720 Speaker 2: so this is like super interesting territories. So I know 1251 01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:40,800 Speaker 2: that these super realistic sex dolls can be kind of expensive. 1252 01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:43,920 Speaker 2: I've heard them being in the thousands and thousands of dollars. 1253 01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:46,760 Speaker 2: So I did a simple Google search like how much 1254 01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:50,439 Speaker 2: is is it a realistic sex doyle? And it came 1255 01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:56,000 Speaker 2: up with they sell them on Amazon, okay, which I 1256 01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,520 Speaker 2: didn't even think about that. So I go on it 1257 01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:01,080 Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh my god, and they are They're 1258 01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:04,040 Speaker 2: like fifteen hundred dollars, right, that's that was like the 1259 01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:06,760 Speaker 2: average pothm do they You know sometimes when you order 1260 01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,120 Speaker 2: larger items and it's like, we can't pack this in 1261 01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:09,920 Speaker 2: another box? 1262 01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:12,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, without saying what it is. 1263 01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:15,160 Speaker 2: Yes, they like they just slap a label on something 1264 01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:18,400 Speaker 2: on somebody's sports it says real life sex stup. I 1265 01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:21,520 Speaker 2: don't know, but listen, this is this is this is 1266 01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:24,200 Speaker 2: going to be the best part of this particular story. 1267 01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:28,640 Speaker 2: So of course I go to see the reviews, which 1268 01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:30,800 Speaker 2: there's not many, because I'm like, who the hell is 1269 01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:34,120 Speaker 2: going to stick their name to this right now? And 1270 01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:38,280 Speaker 2: this was this was from a female actually, and it 1271 01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:42,200 Speaker 2: says it's five stars. Title of the review is my 1272 01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:47,520 Speaker 2: money was not wasted. She is definitely worth the price 1273 01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:51,439 Speaker 2: of admission. She is more realistic than my first TPE doll. 1274 01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:53,600 Speaker 3: I don't know what a TPE means. 1275 01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:58,760 Speaker 2: Skin textures are replicated like real people. She is also 1276 01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:02,600 Speaker 2: lighter and easier to operate than TPE dolls, which can 1277 01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:04,880 Speaker 2: save a lot of time, because we know that we're 1278 01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:07,400 Speaker 2: worried about time. When we're having sex with a sex doll, 1279 01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:11,000 Speaker 2: sometimes I have the illusion that my ex girlfriend is 1280 01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:14,000 Speaker 2: sleeping next to me. I miss my ex girlfriend very 1281 01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:17,440 Speaker 2: very much. I think this silicone doll is the best replacement. 1282 01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:18,919 Speaker 3: All right. 1283 01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:24,840 Speaker 2: Then here's another one. This is called real. This is 1284 01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:28,080 Speaker 2: also by a woman, because this is a female sex style. 1285 01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:29,840 Speaker 2: So I'm just curious. I want to know what the 1286 01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:33,400 Speaker 2: demographic is that buys these things. This sex doll is 1287 01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:36,120 Speaker 2: the real deal. The appearance is very realistic. Her breast 1288 01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:39,120 Speaker 2: and private parts are made to look like real people. 1289 01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:42,160 Speaker 2: She feels like a real companion and a fun sex 1290 01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:47,000 Speaker 2: toy worth my money. Amazon reviews are the best to read. 1291 01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:48,880 Speaker 2: But I just I never even would have thought that 1292 01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:52,760 Speaker 2: you could just buy like a sexual partner on Amazon, 1293 01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,440 Speaker 2: But here we are. You can buy like sex toys 1294 01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:58,880 Speaker 2: and stuff, So I guess it's just a really sophisticated 1295 01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:01,880 Speaker 2: version of a sex toy, right, So, I mean they 1296 01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:05,320 Speaker 2: look like people. My only thing is like, where the 1297 01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:07,560 Speaker 2: fuck do you store that thing in your house that 1298 01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:11,000 Speaker 2: nobody sees it? Like, would you be embarrassed to have it? 1299 01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:14,000 Speaker 2: Guess like your bedroom closet. I don't know, Like I 1300 01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:17,400 Speaker 2: just I don't know. People have, God, people have sex 1301 01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:20,040 Speaker 2: wings installed in their bedroom and they have, you know, 1302 01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:23,439 Speaker 2: like whole rooms devoted to BDSM shit. Like I'm sure 1303 01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,560 Speaker 2: if you're at the point of buying one of those, 1304 01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:28,640 Speaker 2: you know exactly where you're putting it well, or in 1305 01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:31,040 Speaker 2: this case, you die and it's next to you, and 1306 01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:34,680 Speaker 2: now the thought of sleeping next to it is creepier 1307 01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:37,480 Speaker 2: than having sex with it in my opinion. Yeah, like 1308 01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:39,640 Speaker 2: a replacement of your girlfriend that you miss. 1309 01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:40,480 Speaker 3: It's so weird. 1310 01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:43,040 Speaker 2: So anyway, Ryan was taken into custody in charge with 1311 01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:48,040 Speaker 2: one count each of burglary, impersonating a peace officer first agree, 1312 01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:52,360 Speaker 2: criminal trespass, and tampering with physical evidence. Do you think 1313 01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,880 Speaker 2: when he showed up to that scene to take that body, 1314 01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:56,960 Speaker 2: because he didn't, I mean, he just went to take 1315 01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:00,360 Speaker 2: a body to the more, something that he's done multiple times. 1316 01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:02,440 Speaker 2: Do you think that when he walked in, like he 1317 01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:05,440 Speaker 2: had a sexual attraction to this plastic doll that was 1318 01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:08,080 Speaker 2: laying there? I mean, think about how strong that has 1319 01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:10,040 Speaker 2: to be that you would go back and make up 1320 01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:13,480 Speaker 2: some story. Well, I mean clearly him and the other 1321 01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:15,680 Speaker 2: guy were like snickering about it, so they must have 1322 01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:17,960 Speaker 2: been talking about it. I would like to see what 1323 01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,480 Speaker 2: it looked like. I'm just very curious because I was 1324 01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:23,440 Speaker 2: at first envisioning you know, the ones that are like 1325 01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:25,680 Speaker 2: like a blow up ship. That's the one I saw 1326 01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:28,280 Speaker 2: on a death scene once on a homicide. 1327 01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:28,520 Speaker 3: See. 1328 01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:32,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, like that was that was real neat that the 1329 01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:35,680 Speaker 2: photos of that I saw. But no, it says that 1330 01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:38,960 Speaker 2: it's realistic. And that's another thing too, Like when you 1331 01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:43,440 Speaker 2: work with dead people like I do and Ryan does, Right, Yeah, 1332 01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:47,680 Speaker 2: why would you want to stick like your penis or 1333 01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:52,560 Speaker 2: your privates anywhere near like a thing that was laying 1334 01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:54,880 Speaker 2: next to a dead body. I kind of have a feeling. 1335 01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:58,720 Speaker 2: I have an inkling that upon further investigation, they're probably 1336 01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:02,480 Speaker 2: gonna find some cases of necrophilia. I don't I don't 1337 01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:04,440 Speaker 2: know about that. I just think that the guys. Just 1338 01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:07,520 Speaker 2: I don't I don't necessarily know about that. I just 1339 01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:11,200 Speaker 2: think that he he's like kind of like. 1340 01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:13,480 Speaker 3: A loser, and he maybe had been. 1341 01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:16,600 Speaker 2: Maybe this sex style was on his Amazon wish list 1342 01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:18,600 Speaker 2: and he couldn't afford it, and then he was like, 1343 01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:20,880 Speaker 2: oh my god, there it is in real life and 1344 01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:24,520 Speaker 2: then go test the waters. I mean it's it's it's 1345 01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:27,240 Speaker 2: a lot. They're like fifteen hundred to two thousand dollars 1346 01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:28,560 Speaker 2: on average. That's a lot of money. 1347 01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:29,280 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. 1348 01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:31,680 Speaker 2: Maybe he just wanted to try it out before committing 1349 01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:33,040 Speaker 2: to paying full price for it. 1350 01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:35,800 Speaker 3: I don't know. Was it worth going to jail? 1351 01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:38,760 Speaker 2: So was it worth your picture being on the internet 1352 01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:41,640 Speaker 2: associated with this story is more likely the question? 1353 01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:43,120 Speaker 3: Yeah? All right? 1354 01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:46,200 Speaker 2: This next one. So at Crime cod we met the 1355 01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:49,520 Speaker 2: incredible Laura Ingele. I could have talked to her forever 1356 01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:53,240 Speaker 2: about you know, all these high profile profile cases including 1357 01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:56,720 Speaker 2: like Brian Koberger and you know the Minetta's brothers, which 1358 01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:59,920 Speaker 2: she spent a lot of time covering. So Laura did 1359 01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:02,400 Speaker 2: one of the last panels at Crime Con with Mark 1360 01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:05,480 Speaker 2: Erragos and we both unfortunately had to miss this session 1361 01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:08,520 Speaker 2: which we were like pissed in advance that we knew. Yeah, 1362 01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:10,240 Speaker 2: like I had to go be with my kids and 1363 01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:11,400 Speaker 2: I'm like, thanks kids. 1364 01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:12,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1365 01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:14,000 Speaker 2: So we were both really mad we had to miss 1366 01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:15,680 Speaker 2: it because it was towards the end of the convention, 1367 01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:19,080 Speaker 2: and I was enraged when I saw that they called 1368 01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:23,360 Speaker 2: Lyle Menendez live from prison on the stage. Yeah, and 1369 01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:26,600 Speaker 2: he's so, why don't you tell them about just for 1370 01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:29,760 Speaker 2: people that are unfamiliar, I know that everybody is, but 1371 01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:32,840 Speaker 2: we just should Again, this is another high profile case 1372 01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:34,320 Speaker 2: we have in the grosser room if you want, like 1373 01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:37,080 Speaker 2: all the intimate details of the case, but just very basically, 1374 01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:40,160 Speaker 2: Lyle and his brother Eric had killed their parents with 1375 01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:43,240 Speaker 2: the shotgun and their Beverly Hills home in nineteen eighty nine, 1376 01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:46,760 Speaker 2: I believe, and it later came out that they were 1377 01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:51,559 Speaker 2: possibly victims of lifelong childhood sex abuse and physical abuse 1378 01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:54,679 Speaker 2: at the hands of their father. Their mother allegedly knew 1379 01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:56,400 Speaker 2: about it and kind of just let it go on, 1380 01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:59,679 Speaker 2: so they hit a breaking point and then killed their parents. 1381 01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:03,599 Speaker 2: So over the years, all this new evidence has come out, 1382 01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:06,599 Speaker 2: and they've had all these letters written by other family 1383 01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:09,920 Speaker 2: members begging for their sentence to be reduced to manslaughter, 1384 01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:12,800 Speaker 2: which if it does get reduced to manslaughter, they will 1385 01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:15,519 Speaker 2: have served their time already instead of life in prison 1386 01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:20,160 Speaker 2: that both of them received. So you know, now they're 1387 01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:22,960 Speaker 2: kind of trying to fight against it and appeal it. 1388 01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:26,479 Speaker 2: But Lyle called into crime kind to talk about, you know, 1389 01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:29,479 Speaker 2: his life, what his life could possibly be like if 1390 01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:32,720 Speaker 2: he gets out. I really hope they get out. That 1391 01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:37,640 Speaker 2: this story is it's so devastating to me from the 1392 01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:41,200 Speaker 2: perspective of a child that was sex abuse, that he's 1393 01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:45,040 Speaker 2: was a victim of sex abuse, that both of them are, 1394 01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:48,280 Speaker 2: and now they're a victim of the criminal justice system, 1395 01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:52,559 Speaker 2: and just it's just so sad to think that like 1396 01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:55,519 Speaker 2: a kid would go through that kind of trouble. And 1397 01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:59,880 Speaker 2: one of the things that I mentioned in the High 1398 01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:03,519 Speaker 2: File death dissection is like these kids were rich. They 1399 01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:06,000 Speaker 2: were rich kids, right, They had like a life of privilege. 1400 01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:07,560 Speaker 2: They had the best cars. I think they had like 1401 01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:11,360 Speaker 2: a tennis court at their house, just like they had everything. 1402 01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:15,000 Speaker 2: And the prosecution was trying to say that they killed 1403 01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:18,400 Speaker 2: their parents for their inheritance, and it's like, why would 1404 01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:21,320 Speaker 2: they kill their parents for their inheritance if they already 1405 01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:24,599 Speaker 2: had everything they wanted exactly and it just doesn't make 1406 01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:26,800 Speaker 2: any sense. So Lyle said, he's been studying for a 1407 01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:29,439 Speaker 2: master's degree and he's you know, trying to work on 1408 01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:33,240 Speaker 2: how he would reintegrate back into society. His master's degree 1409 01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:35,040 Speaker 2: is going to be an urban planning and he hopes 1410 01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:37,519 Speaker 2: to use it to you know, try to have somewhat 1411 01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:40,080 Speaker 2: of a normal life after spending since he was a 1412 01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:44,120 Speaker 2: teenager in jail. Yeah, and I mean getting back to 1413 01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:47,280 Speaker 2: my point is that why would they why would they 1414 01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:51,240 Speaker 2: kill their parents for an inheritance when their parents were 1415 01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:56,240 Speaker 2: sitting there watching TV and they were eating ice cream 1416 01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:58,960 Speaker 2: and it was a Sunday night there was they went 1417 01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:01,719 Speaker 2: in there and killed parents like that, Like why would 1418 01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:05,960 Speaker 2: why would somebody do that in that situation? 1419 01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:09,720 Speaker 3: They didn't. It wasn't like set up like a robbery, correct. 1420 01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:13,519 Speaker 2: It was just like no, And at first they acted 1421 01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:15,599 Speaker 2: like they didn't. Well, they tried to get they tried 1422 01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:18,200 Speaker 2: to get out of it. Because but think about this. 1423 01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:21,960 Speaker 3: The prosecution during that case for their first trial, because there. 1424 01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:25,920 Speaker 2: Was two, right, yeah, they had two trials. The first one, 1425 01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:31,080 Speaker 2: the prosecution said this is a quote, actually men cannot 1426 01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:34,879 Speaker 2: be raped because they lack the proper equipment to be raped, which. 1427 01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:37,240 Speaker 3: Is ridiculous as. 1428 01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:39,960 Speaker 2: So when the prosecutions, like the part of the government 1429 01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:43,040 Speaker 2: that's supposed to be protecting you, has that kind of 1430 01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:45,679 Speaker 2: an attitude like why do you think these guys took 1431 01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:48,000 Speaker 2: matters into their own hands and killed their parents? 1432 01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:50,519 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, so there was many issues. 1433 01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:53,280 Speaker 2: This case blew up for a reason, right, because it's like, 1434 01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:57,200 Speaker 2: these two wealthy teenagers in this really nice neighborhood kill 1435 01:11:57,240 --> 01:12:00,320 Speaker 2: their parents seemingly to get their inheritance or for no reason. 1436 01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:04,080 Speaker 2: And then, you know, the first time around, their their 1437 01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:07,559 Speaker 2: defense team submits that they were sexually abused, and then 1438 01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:10,720 Speaker 2: you have the prosecutor saying what she said that you know, 1439 01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:13,639 Speaker 2: men can't be raped. And then the second trial comes 1440 01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:16,559 Speaker 2: around and they don't even allow any evidence of sexual 1441 01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:19,320 Speaker 2: abuse at all. And at the same time, the OJ 1442 01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:23,320 Speaker 2: trials going on, which you know, he got acquitted as 1443 01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:25,880 Speaker 2: we all know from history, and they needed to make 1444 01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:28,120 Speaker 2: a point because this was all going down in la 1445 01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:30,639 Speaker 2: at the same time, so they really tried to make 1446 01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:33,479 Speaker 2: an example out of these boys. And over these years, 1447 01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:35,679 Speaker 2: all this new evidence has come out from family members. 1448 01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:39,920 Speaker 2: The father was this big music executive that oversaw these 1449 01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:42,160 Speaker 2: teenage boy bands, and a lot of the members of 1450 01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:44,519 Speaker 2: these boy bands have come forward saying they were also 1451 01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:47,439 Speaker 2: raped by the father. So what would they have to 1452 01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:51,320 Speaker 2: gain from that, right, I know. It's just like even 1453 01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:54,840 Speaker 2: if the guy gets out, his life has already been 1454 01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:57,680 Speaker 2: taken away. I do hope though, that he can get 1455 01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:01,360 Speaker 2: dissatisfaction when he's older to say that, like you need 1456 01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:04,080 Speaker 2: to take this more seriously, like even if his life 1457 01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:07,960 Speaker 2: was sacrificed for this, Hopefully like this helps other cases 1458 01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:11,439 Speaker 2: like this, because it's just I don't think they really 1459 01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:14,439 Speaker 2: ever showed evidence that these kids just wanted to I 1460 01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:16,240 Speaker 2: guess it was because they spent a lot of money 1461 01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:17,240 Speaker 2: after the parents died. 1462 01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:18,879 Speaker 3: But it's just like, Okay, well. 1463 01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:21,800 Speaker 2: Guess what they just they they got sexually abused their 1464 01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:24,719 Speaker 2: whole life, and then they they just killed their parents. 1465 01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:27,400 Speaker 2: Like maybe they just wanted to have some retail therapy. Sorry, 1466 01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:30,000 Speaker 2: I just don't Yeah, I mean, I don't see the 1467 01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:31,840 Speaker 2: point of what they were trying to prove. When you 1468 01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:35,360 Speaker 2: hear the case, just like, Okay, these two wealthy kids 1469 01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:37,519 Speaker 2: killed their parents, you might think like, oh, they were 1470 01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:39,920 Speaker 2: brats or something, right, But when we wrote this up 1471 01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:42,880 Speaker 2: last year and really started looking into all the details 1472 01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:45,960 Speaker 2: of it, and then I'm watching all these documentaries. I'm like, 1473 01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:49,320 Speaker 2: I just I don't think they're guilty, Like, they're obviously 1474 01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:52,080 Speaker 2: guilty of committing the crime, but you have to be 1475 01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:53,960 Speaker 2: pushed to a point of doing it. It's kind of 1476 01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:57,120 Speaker 2: the same argument with Gypsy Rose Blanchard, right, she has 1477 01:13:57,160 --> 01:14:00,000 Speaker 2: been proven to be this victim of lifelong child abuse 1478 01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:01,520 Speaker 2: and enough is enough. 1479 01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:04,519 Speaker 3: At some point. Yeah, and it does see a problem 1480 01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:04,800 Speaker 3: with it. 1481 01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:07,439 Speaker 2: It doesn't necessarily make it right that they killed their parents, 1482 01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:11,320 Speaker 2: but I have a better understanding of the position they 1483 01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:13,759 Speaker 2: were in to feel like that was the only way out. 1484 01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:15,360 Speaker 3: Of their situation. Yeah, totally. 1485 01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:17,960 Speaker 2: So I think it's really cool that they called them 1486 01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:20,960 Speaker 2: on stage. I'm very jealous. I was not in the audience. 1487 01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,600 Speaker 2: So this is live and bumb di Dire. Only we 1488 01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:27,080 Speaker 2: could talk to We'll talk to Lara on the show. 1489 01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:29,200 Speaker 2: Hopefully we could have her on and talk about that. 1490 01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:30,200 Speaker 3: That would be really awesome. 1491 01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:33,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So this next story, a seventy year 1492 01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:35,960 Speaker 2: old woman who was on hospice had been pronounced dead 1493 01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:39,120 Speaker 2: and transported to a funeral home, only for two hours 1494 01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:41,880 Speaker 2: later for a funeral homeworker to discover that she was 1495 01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:46,760 Speaker 2: actually breathing, so she was alive for two hours in 1496 01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:50,679 Speaker 2: a body bag, which is terrible. What's even more terrible 1497 01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:54,240 Speaker 2: is think about people that work in our field. So 1498 01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:56,400 Speaker 2: you're in a funeral home, you always see dead people. 1499 01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:58,280 Speaker 2: When you're in the morgan and you open the body bag, 1500 01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:00,960 Speaker 2: you always see dead people, right, Like that would be 1501 01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:05,360 Speaker 2: completely terrifying to open a body bag and find out 1502 01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:08,360 Speaker 2: that the person wasn't dead. Well, could be very always 1503 01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:11,360 Speaker 2: asking you that quist it's It's just it would be 1504 01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:14,760 Speaker 2: very apparent because they would still be warm, like that's 1505 01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:17,759 Speaker 2: number one thing, especially if you're like, oh, this person's 1506 01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:20,559 Speaker 2: been in the fridge for two hours, like what why 1507 01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:23,719 Speaker 2: are they still this warm? And you would see maybe 1508 01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:27,320 Speaker 2: see them breathing or even shallow breast like I I 1509 01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:30,960 Speaker 2: can't imagine what I would ever do in that case. 1510 01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:34,880 Speaker 2: I mean, but think about this, the funeral director started 1511 01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:38,960 Speaker 2: doing CPR on this person waiting for the EMS to arrive, 1512 01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:42,240 Speaker 2: and you wouldn't even think about that, Like how would 1513 01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:44,479 Speaker 2: you know how to even do that? I don't really, 1514 01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:46,880 Speaker 2: I mean I see it on TV and stuff, but 1515 01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:49,000 Speaker 2: you know, how would you really know that? 1516 01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:51,720 Speaker 3: I don't I don't even know what I. 1517 01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:55,360 Speaker 2: Would do, but regardless, they said that there's an autopsy 1518 01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:59,479 Speaker 2: that's pending, right, so they're going which I'm kind of like, 1519 01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:00,000 Speaker 2: who cares? 1520 01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:01,040 Speaker 3: Like what are they going to see? 1521 01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:03,360 Speaker 2: Like this lady was on hospice, so clearly they knew 1522 01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:05,479 Speaker 2: she was going to be dying at some point anyway. 1523 01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:09,560 Speaker 2: So so she did die again, she died like I 1524 01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:13,080 Speaker 2: don't know how long later. I just saw the story 1525 01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:14,920 Speaker 2: came out that. I mean, she was seventy four and 1526 01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:17,599 Speaker 2: she was on hospice. So if they do the autopsy, 1527 01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:20,840 Speaker 2: let's say she had stage four cancer or she had 1528 01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:22,760 Speaker 2: dementia or something like, all they're going to do is 1529 01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:25,559 Speaker 2: see that pathology. They're not going to see anything different 1530 01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:29,720 Speaker 2: than she just she they thought she was dead and 1531 01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:32,720 Speaker 2: she wasn't, And that's the autopsy really isn't going to 1532 01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:35,439 Speaker 2: help in that determination, Like was it a matter of 1533 01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:37,960 Speaker 2: like you know, they pronounced her dead a couple of 1534 01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:40,960 Speaker 2: hours too early, right and center over and then she 1535 01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:43,839 Speaker 2: so I wonder did it say how long. 1536 01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:47,040 Speaker 3: She died after the funeral? After the funeral, she was. 1537 01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:49,080 Speaker 2: Still I don't know when the original I don't know 1538 01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:50,640 Speaker 2: what day the original story. 1539 01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:52,280 Speaker 3: Was published but it was two days ago. 1540 01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:56,080 Speaker 2: They said that she had died for real this time. Yeah, 1541 01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:58,719 Speaker 2: so she was going to die basically anyway. They were 1542 01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:02,080 Speaker 2: just a little a little early with sendator over there. 1543 01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:05,800 Speaker 3: So yeah, it's sad, okay, this last one. 1544 01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:08,679 Speaker 2: So on June first, a bus driver in Baltimore clawed 1545 01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:11,479 Speaker 2: police after finding a fetus on one of the bus seats. 1546 01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:14,559 Speaker 2: And then two days later, on the same exact bus 1547 01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:18,639 Speaker 2: as second fetus was found. I mean, what do you say, 1548 01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:21,639 Speaker 2: I don't know it was. It was a stillborn fetus, 1549 01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:24,800 Speaker 2: so it was over twenty weeks, so it was the 1550 01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:28,000 Speaker 2: least halfway done, you know what I mean? 1551 01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:29,040 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I don't know. 1552 01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:31,639 Speaker 2: They don't say how old the fetus was, and they 1553 01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:34,519 Speaker 2: also say that both of the fetus after they sent. 1554 01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:37,040 Speaker 3: The feta fetuses feet I. 1555 01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:38,640 Speaker 2: I don't know what you really say for plural, but 1556 01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:40,760 Speaker 2: when they were sent to the medical Examiner's office, they 1557 01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:43,360 Speaker 2: did an autopsy and said they were both indeed stillborn, 1558 01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:46,160 Speaker 2: which means that they died of natural causes. I'm thinking 1559 01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:49,920 Speaker 2: what happened is that the story broke about fetus number 1560 01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:53,759 Speaker 2: one being found, and then maybe another person they cleared 1561 01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:56,080 Speaker 2: the bus and found the other one, and then another, 1562 01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:59,000 Speaker 2: and then a person watching the news in a similar 1563 01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:02,479 Speaker 2: predicament was like, Oh, I'll go put my fetus there too. 1564 01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:05,080 Speaker 3: Not how would you get a fetus? 1565 01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:07,360 Speaker 2: No, Like they had the still berts at home and 1566 01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:08,840 Speaker 2: we're like, I don't know how to get rid of this, 1567 01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:10,840 Speaker 2: and then heard that another one had been found, so 1568 01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:12,040 Speaker 2: they thought it was a good. 1569 01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:14,640 Speaker 3: Yet this story is just so freaking weird. 1570 01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:17,559 Speaker 2: Because they're not They don't think it like, it's it's 1571 01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:21,000 Speaker 2: still birth, right, so there's no criminal investigation behind it. No. 1572 01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:25,479 Speaker 2: The only thing I was thinking was that because I 1573 01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:29,280 Speaker 2: want to know what the DNA tests to see who 1574 01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:31,000 Speaker 2: it is, Like you think, are they twins? 1575 01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:36,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? How could it not be connected when fetus on 1576 01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:36,800 Speaker 3: a bus? 1577 01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:40,080 Speaker 2: I know? But wouldn't they say they were of. 1578 01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:42,920 Speaker 3: The same side. They might not know, they might. I 1579 01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:43,639 Speaker 3: don't know. 1580 01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:47,840 Speaker 2: I'm just thinking like there, like if this person like yeah, 1581 01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:49,919 Speaker 2: and was it just the fetus? Was there the placenta? 1582 01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:53,120 Speaker 2: Did the person get birth on the bus? Was the 1583 01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:55,360 Speaker 2: person pregnant with twins and gave birth the one and 1584 01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:57,280 Speaker 2: then the other one came out? Did the baby still 1585 01:18:57,320 --> 01:18:59,080 Speaker 2: have a cord attached? Like, what's happening? 1586 01:18:59,240 --> 01:18:59,720 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1587 01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:03,400 Speaker 2: I do think this is insane though, because it's it's 1588 01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:06,479 Speaker 2: it's like a miscarriage basically, right, So like, how how 1589 01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:10,599 Speaker 2: did this happen? I really too, I don't. I don't 1590 01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:13,400 Speaker 2: think the birth on the bus. I think that would 1591 01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:18,479 Speaker 2: have been more way more obvious because birth is birth right. 1592 01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:21,799 Speaker 2: It doesn't really matter. Weirder shit happens on the bus 1593 01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:25,840 Speaker 2: in a city like Baltimore. I just saw a video 1594 01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:29,080 Speaker 2: of they have like wrestling matches on the train in 1595 01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:32,639 Speaker 2: New York, like straight up people jumping off the things 1596 01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:35,000 Speaker 2: and off of the chairs on the side there and 1597 01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:39,280 Speaker 2: like slamming body slamming people and stuff with like audiences 1598 01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:41,880 Speaker 2: that pay. Maybe we should have a new category called 1599 01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:44,759 Speaker 2: what the hell happened here? Or just like the total 1600 01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:47,439 Speaker 2: mystery mysterious, like how did this even happen? 1601 01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:48,920 Speaker 3: What is possibly going on? 1602 01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:52,920 Speaker 2: Like there's just there's it's just like there's cameras on 1603 01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:53,639 Speaker 2: the bus too. 1604 01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:55,160 Speaker 3: They don't I don't know. 1605 01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:57,559 Speaker 2: There's just no way that this is not that this 1606 01:19:57,720 --> 01:20:02,680 Speaker 2: is related or this is not really this is what 1607 01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:05,680 Speaker 2: am I trying to say here? 1608 01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:06,240 Speaker 3: Exactly? 1609 01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:09,799 Speaker 2: They're this, They're the same, they came from the same vagina, 1610 01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:11,840 Speaker 2: that's what I'm trying to say. I don't think so. 1611 01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:14,439 Speaker 2: I think somebody got inspired by the dumb suit. Do 1612 01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:16,000 Speaker 2: you want to do you want to make a bet 1613 01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:18,559 Speaker 2: on this? I don't think we'll ever go bet. That's 1614 01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:21,160 Speaker 2: the that's the worst part. We never hear back. It's 1615 01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:23,479 Speaker 2: just kind of like, why are you even bothering like 1616 01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:25,599 Speaker 2: giving us this dictees of a story if you're not 1617 01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:27,519 Speaker 2: going to give us the full details of what's happened. 1618 01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:30,479 Speaker 2: That's what our listeners are probably saying due to us, 1619 01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:32,559 Speaker 2: why are you. 1620 01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:35,280 Speaker 3: If you're going they have to suffer with us? Okay? 1621 01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:38,360 Speaker 2: Under question of the day Every Friday at the Mother 1622 01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:41,400 Speaker 2: does Death Instagram account, so that is today. You can 1623 01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:45,719 Speaker 2: go over to our story and ask any question you want. First, 1624 01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:48,439 Speaker 2: are there any serial killers that you would interview? And 1625 01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:51,840 Speaker 2: why I don't? 1626 01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:53,120 Speaker 3: This is my thing. 1627 01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:57,240 Speaker 2: I don't have any kind of restrictions of interviewing anybody. 1628 01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:01,840 Speaker 2: So if any serial killer ever like wants to have 1629 01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:05,200 Speaker 2: an interview with it, I'll do it. 1630 01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:06,240 Speaker 3: I don't care. 1631 01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:08,200 Speaker 2: Like what I could go to Gail and visit them, 1632 01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:08,519 Speaker 2: I don't. 1633 01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:09,200 Speaker 3: I don't care. 1634 01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:12,920 Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not scared of it or anything I 1635 01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:15,639 Speaker 2: just like, I want to talk to everybody about everything. 1636 01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:19,400 Speaker 2: So I would love to ask any any serial killer. 1637 01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:21,280 Speaker 2: I don't have a specific one that I would want 1638 01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:24,960 Speaker 2: to talk to, although like talking to people like Gary 1639 01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:28,880 Speaker 2: Heidnick or Jeffrey Dahmer, but they're not even alive, right, 1640 01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:29,559 Speaker 2: So it's like. 1641 01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:32,479 Speaker 3: Is Gary Heidnick alive? No, he's not alive, right, I 1642 01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:33,280 Speaker 3: don't think so. 1643 01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:37,360 Speaker 2: But regardless, like like I can't even talk to them 1644 01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:39,400 Speaker 2: right now if they're dead or whatever. But I am 1645 01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:42,519 Speaker 2: interested in it, especially in the ones that eat they're victims. 1646 01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:48,520 Speaker 2: It's kind of like this other level of you know, craziness. 1647 01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:51,519 Speaker 2: But I don't, I mean, what do you what about you? 1648 01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:54,960 Speaker 2: Do you have a particular person that you're interested in? Yeah, 1649 01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:57,599 Speaker 2: I mean I I'm very interested in the Golden State 1650 01:21:57,680 --> 01:22:01,040 Speaker 2: killer case. And he is alive and recently captured after 1651 01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:04,920 Speaker 2: having committed all these crimes in the seventies, but he 1652 01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:07,479 Speaker 2: is so scary to me. I don't think I get, 1653 01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:09,960 Speaker 2: like you have to think with I know you're not 1654 01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:13,479 Speaker 2: as familiar with this case, but it wasn't that he 1655 01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:16,479 Speaker 2: just would break in these women's home and hide in 1656 01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:20,040 Speaker 2: their bedroom closets for hours, even like, let's say you 1657 01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:22,720 Speaker 2: got home from work at five o'clock, right, he would 1658 01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:24,960 Speaker 2: be in your house since one o'clock and not pounce 1659 01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:27,360 Speaker 2: on you till nine o'clock. So you would be in 1660 01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:30,120 Speaker 2: a house with him. For it's creepy, But it's creepy. 1661 01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:31,880 Speaker 2: But they're in prison. What are you scared of? 1662 01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:33,840 Speaker 3: No, I know, not like you're meeting them on a day, No, 1663 01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:34,120 Speaker 3: I know. 1664 01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:37,160 Speaker 2: But then with him, it's like then he would attack you. 1665 01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:39,200 Speaker 2: So this is this is when Marsha when he was 1666 01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:42,000 Speaker 2: raping people, because obviously he progressed to killing people later, 1667 01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:46,920 Speaker 2: but then he would call them for years after and 1668 01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:49,519 Speaker 2: just breathe in the phone and whisper things to them. 1669 01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:51,880 Speaker 2: And that is the scariest thing in the world to me. 1670 01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:54,400 Speaker 2: So I am most interested in that case. 1671 01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:56,000 Speaker 3: For me, Well, would you ask them? 1672 01:22:57,640 --> 01:23:01,680 Speaker 2: I would just be like, like, why the torture, Like 1673 01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:04,320 Speaker 2: I think it's bizarre to commit the crime and then 1674 01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:09,320 Speaker 2: just torture these people and their family members for years afterwards. 1675 01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:11,200 Speaker 2: I just am curious why. 1676 01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:13,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean it would be cool. 1677 01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:16,559 Speaker 2: Also, something he did was every time he raped somebody, 1678 01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:19,280 Speaker 2: he would put a towel over a television that was on, 1679 01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:24,599 Speaker 2: so they were saying when they Detective Paul Holes actually 1680 01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:27,519 Speaker 2: who we met last week I heard in an interview, said 1681 01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:30,360 Speaker 2: that when they finally went to arrest him and entered 1682 01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:33,840 Speaker 2: his home, they confirmed that one hundred percent it was 1683 01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:36,240 Speaker 2: the right guy, not only through DNA, but because when 1684 01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:38,839 Speaker 2: they went through his home, he had towels or blankets 1685 01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:41,479 Speaker 2: covering every device in his home and it was a 1686 01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:45,200 Speaker 2: very particular MO he had that was not public information. 1687 01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:47,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting. 1688 01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:49,880 Speaker 2: So I just I'm very curious about that. The whole 1689 01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:51,880 Speaker 2: case is very fascinating to me. At one point they 1690 01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:58,439 Speaker 2: thought he was three different people like stalking, rapist, killer, Yeah, 1691 01:23:58,479 --> 01:24:00,320 Speaker 2: and then they connected him to being one and so. 1692 01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:03,760 Speaker 2: But he's so scary, but he's like pop up sage. Now, 1693 01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:06,000 Speaker 2: you know, it's kind of crazy. A lot of them though, 1694 01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:08,840 Speaker 2: when you get to see them, especially when you know 1695 01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:10,639 Speaker 2: for sure they did the crime, like when you look 1696 01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:12,880 Speaker 2: in their eyes or like they're they're scary as hell. 1697 01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:15,400 Speaker 2: But a lot of people that know these people in 1698 01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:19,800 Speaker 2: regular life and stuff didn't necessarily always think that. And 1699 01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:23,400 Speaker 2: if you consider Coburger a serial killer, because like the 1700 01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:26,000 Speaker 2: way I think of serial killers is somebody that commits 1701 01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:29,000 Speaker 2: like one crime at a time and is repeating them 1702 01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:32,000 Speaker 2: not doing like not killing multiple people in one instance, 1703 01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:32,639 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. 1704 01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:36,920 Speaker 3: I I think I think he would be considered because 1705 01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:40,479 Speaker 3: if he killed four of them separately, I mean, it's 1706 01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:44,120 Speaker 3: just that's probably like I don't know about all of this, 1707 01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:49,679 Speaker 3: the category how people are categorized like this, but because 1708 01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:53,040 Speaker 3: it's definitely different if you go to someone's house and 1709 01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:55,720 Speaker 3: shoot four people as opposed to what he did, right, 1710 01:24:55,960 --> 01:24:59,479 Speaker 3: So yeah, so there's there's this other level of like 1711 01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:05,200 Speaker 3: I mean, especially when you stab one person, it's it's 1712 01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:08,439 Speaker 3: just harder to get them down than if you shot them, 1713 01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:11,479 Speaker 3: let's say, But then to actually be able to go 1714 01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:14,760 Speaker 3: to multiple rooms and kill all those people without anybody 1715 01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:18,720 Speaker 3: escaping like that, it's just like it's very brazen to 1716 01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:22,479 Speaker 3: even try to attempt that and to be successful at it, 1717 01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:27,120 Speaker 3: which means that I really think that he probably studied 1718 01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:30,320 Speaker 3: like anatomy and like which things to do first, and 1719 01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:33,479 Speaker 3: like kind of went in with a plan. It's just 1720 01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:39,439 Speaker 3: like a little bit calculated and and like intimate. 1721 01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:43,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I'm I'm curious, Like if anybody's a crime 1722 01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:45,640 Speaker 2: scene investigator knows better than us, please let us know. 1723 01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:48,320 Speaker 2: In a message or comment or something like would he 1724 01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:51,639 Speaker 2: be categorized as a serial killer or like a mass 1725 01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:55,200 Speaker 2: murderer or they different? I think I think there's different characteristics, 1726 01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:58,479 Speaker 2: like somebody that has a pattern and goes multiple times 1727 01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:00,920 Speaker 2: and does it not all in one instant. He was 1728 01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:04,400 Speaker 2: like like he didn't impulsively say like, you know what, 1729 01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:08,320 Speaker 2: that person stole my glasses. I'm gonna why do I 1730 01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:11,519 Speaker 2: say glasses? Like stole stole something from me and I'm 1731 01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:13,200 Speaker 2: gonna go shoot them? Right. 1732 01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:15,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't impulsive. It was planned. 1733 01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:21,000 Speaker 2: And to kill multiple people in planet I think is probably. 1734 01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:25,640 Speaker 3: I would say, is what is considered a serial killer? Yeah? 1735 01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:30,760 Speaker 2: Killing multiple people? It's just a It's an interesting question 1736 01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:35,400 Speaker 2: because when you think about, for example, like let's say, 1737 01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:38,320 Speaker 2: for example, the guy that shot all I don't remember 1738 01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:39,880 Speaker 2: what his name is, but the guy that shot all 1739 01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:40,559 Speaker 2: the people in. 1740 01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:42,000 Speaker 3: Vegas a couple of years back. 1741 01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:46,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, like he killed fifty some people, right, Like he's 1742 01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:49,800 Speaker 2: technically a serial killer, but like you wouldn't, well, I 1743 01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:51,599 Speaker 2: don't have a new term for that. That's the thing 1744 01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:54,840 Speaker 2: I don't think he is. I think there's like mass shooter, 1745 01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:59,000 Speaker 2: mass murderer, and then there's serial killer. So That's where 1746 01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:01,599 Speaker 2: I'm wondering where Cober lines up, because it's like there's 1747 01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:05,000 Speaker 2: instances where you're killing a lot of people in one session, 1748 01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:08,960 Speaker 2: or you have like multiple planned out attacks that I'll 1749 01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:12,320 Speaker 2: meet the same mo. I'm gonna look more into this 1750 01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:16,519 Speaker 2: because I'm fascinated. Okay, because the term serial killer wasn't 1751 01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:20,080 Speaker 2: didn't come up until it's not even like one hundred 1752 01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:23,479 Speaker 2: years old, you know, so yeah, but I'm gonna look 1753 01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:25,960 Speaker 2: it up next. How do you talk about death with 1754 01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:32,800 Speaker 2: your children? Well, we haven't had luckily any situations that 1755 01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:35,200 Speaker 2: they've had the personally deal with it yet, which they 1756 01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:38,280 Speaker 2: will because they're this. I mean, this is a lesson 1757 01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:40,080 Speaker 2: I teach them all the time, is like you're human 1758 01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:44,840 Speaker 2: and everyone you know could possibly die at any time. 1759 01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:48,160 Speaker 2: So and I've been trying to say that to them 1760 01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:52,719 Speaker 2: since they were little kids, like they sometimes they Lilian 1761 01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:54,320 Speaker 2: went through it a little bit that she was having 1762 01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:57,519 Speaker 2: this like fear of death for a while, and I 1763 01:27:57,600 --> 01:27:59,519 Speaker 2: was just like honest with her, and I was like, Lily, 1764 01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:02,040 Speaker 2: and you are going to die one day, Like I 1765 01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:05,120 Speaker 2: think a lot of parents would say, no, that's not 1766 01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:07,120 Speaker 2: going to happen, and this and that and It's like 1767 01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:09,439 Speaker 2: I feel like when you talk to your kids that 1768 01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:13,920 Speaker 2: way and you kind of like candy coat stuff, that's 1769 01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:16,479 Speaker 2: not really the truth. If it really happens. It's hard 1770 01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:18,760 Speaker 2: for anyone to deal with death, no matter what, no 1771 01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:22,719 Speaker 2: matter how prepared you are. But I think a child 1772 01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:25,719 Speaker 2: might almost be like, no, my mom said this couldn't happen, 1773 01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:28,360 Speaker 2: Like how could this happen? Yeah, And I don't care 1774 01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:30,000 Speaker 2: about need to go out of your way and be 1775 01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:33,280 Speaker 2: like you're gonna die, but you should be. 1776 01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:33,760 Speaker 3: I don't. 1777 01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:35,840 Speaker 2: I don't go out of my way to say I 1778 01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:37,360 Speaker 2: don't go out of my way to say it. But 1779 01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:40,400 Speaker 2: when she, if she was having a meltdown and I would, 1780 01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:42,960 Speaker 2: she would say like I'm scared, I'm going to die. 1781 01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:45,360 Speaker 2: I would say, you are going to die, and you 1782 01:28:45,400 --> 01:28:48,160 Speaker 2: know what, Like she doesn't do that anymore. So I 1783 01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:51,080 Speaker 2: feel like I did it a couple of times, and 1784 01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:54,000 Speaker 2: I was just like, listen, like your cat's going to die, 1785 01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:56,799 Speaker 2: your dad's gonna die, your mom's gonna die, We're all. 1786 01:28:56,680 --> 01:28:57,280 Speaker 3: Going to die. 1787 01:28:57,320 --> 01:29:00,320 Speaker 2: Like we're here on this earth for this many you 1788 01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:03,000 Speaker 2: don't even know how long. So like live your life 1789 01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:05,559 Speaker 2: every day. Number One, you don't have control over it. Well, 1790 01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:07,559 Speaker 2: you do to an extent if you live a healthy 1791 01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:09,639 Speaker 2: life or not. And that's what I say to them, 1792 01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:13,120 Speaker 2: Like if you live a healthy life and you could 1793 01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:18,240 Speaker 2: be like on a strict healthy diet of organic foods 1794 01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:20,599 Speaker 2: every day and never drink alcohol or smoke a cigarette, 1795 01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:23,040 Speaker 2: and you could still have some weird genetic cancer or 1796 01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:24,799 Speaker 2: you could get hit by a train. 1797 01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:28,080 Speaker 3: Taking a selfie, right, Like, it's you, just you. You 1798 01:29:28,120 --> 01:29:29,040 Speaker 3: aren't in control. 1799 01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:31,920 Speaker 2: You're semi in control a bit, but not really, And 1800 01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:33,720 Speaker 2: you just have to live your life every day, like 1801 01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:37,960 Speaker 2: enjoying your life and not because why would you waste 1802 01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:41,080 Speaker 2: your time? This was like my whole entire argument with COVID, 1803 01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:44,439 Speaker 2: Like you're so scared of dying that you're not living. 1804 01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:47,640 Speaker 2: It's it's like that's my argument with life. Yeah, Like 1805 01:29:47,720 --> 01:29:50,920 Speaker 2: I think you just have to enforce with them, like 1806 01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:53,920 Speaker 2: it will happen at some point, but you don't need 1807 01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:57,240 Speaker 2: to sit here every day waiting for it to happen. Yeah, 1808 01:29:57,240 --> 01:30:00,559 Speaker 2: and just and also I say, like, especially with kids, 1809 01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:05,000 Speaker 2: it's it's like there's a possibility that there's a child 1810 01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:08,519 Speaker 2: that they know that that would die one day, just 1811 01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:10,920 Speaker 2: because kids do die. We talk about it sometimes and 1812 01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:13,920 Speaker 2: it's freaking terrible. It's the worst thing that could ever happen. 1813 01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:18,479 Speaker 2: But you just say the likelihood of that happening is 1814 01:30:18,520 --> 01:30:22,200 Speaker 2: like most people die when they're older, and you know, 1815 01:30:22,280 --> 01:30:24,680 Speaker 2: we're lucky, we don't. We don't have these diseases in 1816 01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:26,559 Speaker 2: our family and this, and now you just say things 1817 01:30:26,600 --> 01:30:30,639 Speaker 2: like that, and you know, I think I think one 1818 01:30:30,720 --> 01:30:33,559 Speaker 2: thing that's coming out, like as we get like more 1819 01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:36,559 Speaker 2: of alved as humans is that you don't have to 1820 01:30:36,640 --> 01:30:40,320 Speaker 2: talk to kids like they're like in baby talk. 1821 01:30:40,439 --> 01:30:41,719 Speaker 3: They want to know the truth. 1822 01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:43,599 Speaker 2: You just have to say it in a way that 1823 01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:48,160 Speaker 2: they understand and is more age appropriate. But by hiding it, 1824 01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:52,320 Speaker 2: I don't think that that benefits anybody. Yeah, all right, 1825 01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:58,800 Speaker 2: last question, do you guys have any plans this summer? Well, 1826 01:30:58,840 --> 01:31:01,639 Speaker 2: we just got back from our country trip and then Nashville, 1827 01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:06,360 Speaker 2: So I'm just enjoying just being home with Gabe and 1828 01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:08,920 Speaker 2: going in the yard with the kids and going in 1829 01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:12,240 Speaker 2: the pool and like doing our gardening. That's like I 1830 01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:14,599 Speaker 2: I mean, we'll go down the shore of course, because 1831 01:31:14,600 --> 01:31:18,200 Speaker 2: that's easy. But yeah, like these this was probably like 1832 01:31:18,479 --> 01:31:21,559 Speaker 2: all my trips for the year, minus work engagements we 1833 01:31:21,640 --> 01:31:25,240 Speaker 2: possibly have later in the year, so like I'm probably 1834 01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:28,280 Speaker 2: not doing anything. I also kind of want to do 1835 01:31:28,439 --> 01:31:31,439 Speaker 2: like a day or a couple of days somewhere for 1836 01:31:31,560 --> 01:31:34,559 Speaker 2: my thirtieth birthday, but I don't even know yet, So 1837 01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:37,240 Speaker 2: I don't know. I think I'm gonna go down the 1838 01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:40,400 Speaker 2: shore for a week maybe in the late summer, just 1839 01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:42,960 Speaker 2: chill out. Like I don't even really like going on 1840 01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:46,840 Speaker 2: the beach. I just like being like with the ocean air. 1841 01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:49,880 Speaker 2: I always say my favorite soda ever is when you 1842 01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:51,800 Speaker 2: get soda down the shore because it tastes like the 1843 01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:54,320 Speaker 2: ocean a little bit, which everybody thinks is disgusting, but 1844 01:31:54,400 --> 01:31:55,880 Speaker 2: I think tastes like fingers us. 1845 01:31:55,960 --> 01:31:59,000 Speaker 3: It has. It has like a low grade ocean taste. Delicious. 1846 01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:02,439 Speaker 2: It's the taste question. It's funny that you like that 1847 01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:06,360 Speaker 2: because you don't like you just despise seafood and like 1848 01:32:06,439 --> 01:32:08,960 Speaker 2: the ocean tastes like seafood, Like. 1849 01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:09,720 Speaker 3: That's what it is. 1850 01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:14,800 Speaker 2: It's an ocean full of seafood. I know that The 1851 01:32:14,920 --> 01:32:18,000 Speaker 2: thing is is like I want to like seafood, I 1852 01:32:18,160 --> 01:32:20,760 Speaker 2: just can't. I try it all the time, and I 1853 01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:24,720 Speaker 2: just don't. It's not like I am being picky. I 1854 01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:27,639 Speaker 2: try it constantly, I just don't like it. I can't 1855 01:32:27,680 --> 01:32:30,920 Speaker 2: explain it all right, guys, Well, thank you so much. 1856 01:32:31,000 --> 01:32:32,479 Speaker 2: We will see you next week. 1857 01:32:33,040 --> 01:32:34,120 Speaker 3: We'll see you next week. 1858 01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:42,120 Speaker 2: Thank you for listening to Mother Nos Death. As a reminder, 1859 01:32:42,280 --> 01:32:46,080 Speaker 2: my training is as a pathologist assistant. 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