Speaker 1: We're back. I'm Drew McCarry and I'm David Roth and
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Speaker 1: listen to see I buy. When I turned eighteen and
Speaker 1: gained the right to vote, how was that girl that
Speaker 1: did not vote? Because I didn't think that accounted who?
Speaker 1: When I started to make more money is when I
Speaker 1: started to question my political alliances. And then when I
Speaker 1: moved back to Brooklyn is when I realized how wrong
Speaker 1: I was and what I thought politics really means. M hmm,
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Speaker 1: So this is two thousand and nine. I believe we
Speaker 1: just moved back to Brooklyn. Codeine and I had decided
Speaker 1: that we didn't want to stay in Michigan after I
Speaker 1: was released, so we moved back to Brooklyn and UH
Speaker 1: stayed in my grandmother's apartment. Like I've said before on
Speaker 1: many occasions, we had lost a ton of money in
Speaker 1: the stock market because the economy was literally crashing as
Speaker 1: we were going through the recession, and I was no
Speaker 1: longer playing football, so a lot of my liquid capital
Speaker 1: I didn't have access to my own property. UM I
Speaker 1: had stocks, so I had assets, I just didn't have
Speaker 1: liquid capital. So we moved back to Brooklyn and I
Speaker 1: started building my company and I started mentoring young men.
Speaker 1: And after going through everything I went through with money,
Speaker 1: I just focused all of my politics on money. And
Speaker 1: it wasn't until we got back to Brooklyn. I started
Speaker 1: mentoring these young men and I started hearing firsthand the
Speaker 1: situations they were dealing with with police with stopping frisk.
Speaker 1: When Codeine got pregnant and we were trying to find
Speaker 1: early childhood education, that I realized there's so much more
Speaker 1: to politics than just money. And it's funny because when
Speaker 1: you when you start to make a lot of money
Speaker 1: and you feel like you can buy your way out
Speaker 1: of certain situations, it don't seem like it affects you.
Speaker 1: And it wasn't until we moved back to Brooklyn and
Speaker 1: I started to have these conversations with the young men
Speaker 1: about what they were going through on a daily basis
Speaker 1: that I realized that politics was a lot more than
Speaker 1: just money. Wow, that hit home for you. Huh, definitely,
Speaker 1: get up, stand up to do to do to stand
Speaker 1: up for your rights? Do do? Get up, stand up,
Speaker 1: stand up for your rights. Don't give up the fight.
Speaker 1: You know, that's Kyro's favorite. As I said, just don't
Speaker 1: give up the fight. I thought about it, that is
Speaker 1: Kyl's favorite song. He's a little rebel and it's you
Speaker 1: know Kyro, it makes sense. He got he done up,
Speaker 1: stand up for something. He loves Bob Marley Jackson loves
Speaker 1: I know. I made sure my kids were you know
Speaker 1: about that. It's a great dude. We talk about impact
Speaker 1: and culture from musicians and people who made their life
Speaker 1: really about what their messages. Bob Marley has to be
Speaker 1: number one. Absolutely, he lived up to that man. I mean,
Speaker 1: a worldwide sensation that just preached love and unity together
Speaker 1: and happiness and wealth being more than most small was
Speaker 1: able to reach the entire world. Shout out to someone
Speaker 1: recently asked me that too. If I could bring somebody
Speaker 1: back the cat It was on the Red carpet at
Speaker 1: that time, and I said about Marley, if I could
Speaker 1: bring someone back to witness where we are now. Although
Speaker 1: I feel like some of our ancestors who have gone
Speaker 1: on might be shaking their head of us, like what
Speaker 1: is going on? But we have made some problems, but
Speaker 1: there are there are some great moments. Yeah, there's some
Speaker 1: great moments that I would love to share with them. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: So we're talking about politics today, guys, and we think
Speaker 1: it's important to talk about politics because on the previous
Speaker 1: podcast we have politics as one of the main things
Speaker 1: that people should speak about when they're dating. Oh yes,
Speaker 1: that was one of the top five talking about politics
Speaker 1: and what used to be taboo, and you never mentioned
Speaker 1: or speak to in public about, you know, with people,
Speaker 1: this is something that we want you to be informed
Speaker 1: about when you're making your voter decisions. And I think
Speaker 1: it was important for us to talk about because we
Speaker 1: always speak about relationship issues on this show, and we
Speaker 1: always speak about the things that can help create a
Speaker 1: more healthy relationship. And I feel like if two people
Speaker 1: are evenly yoked when they talk about spirituality, you know,
Speaker 1: if they can discuss politics, they can get a greater
Speaker 1: idea about the other person's moral compass if you know
Speaker 1: what they're voting for, why they're voting for, who they're
Speaker 1: voting for. And I also believe that as millennials, we
Speaker 1: have a lot more independent thinkers than we've had, you know,
Speaker 1: in previous generations. For sure, we're all pushing where there's
Speaker 1: a lot more people pushing the envelope now asking the
Speaker 1: wise and they want that explanation and they're willing to
Speaker 1: go find out the answer. Yes. And I also see
Speaker 1: that UM a lot of people like to utilize social media.
Speaker 1: For example, I saw a video of it was Donald
Speaker 1: Trump and he was surrounded by a bunch of black
Speaker 1: college kids, and there's a young black man just up
Speaker 1: there saying, like, we love Donald Trump. We love Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: And what happens is is if people don't educate themselves
Speaker 1: on who they should vote for, sometimes they just see
Speaker 1: images and follow the images to say, hey, if they're
Speaker 1: saying this, then it must be true. Right. So I
Speaker 1: think it's important TV up to stand next to somebody
Speaker 1: and as well. Yeah, and I think that it's important
Speaker 1: for us to educate ourselves, you know, and say, you
Speaker 1: know what, let's make the right decision for us. All right.
Speaker 1: So today we're talking about doing the right thing, especially
Speaker 1: when it comes to politics and the political climate that
Speaker 1: we're in right now. So our special guest for today
Speaker 1: is miss Ashanti Golar and she is responsible for a
Speaker 1: blog for women women of color, particularly that gives advice
Speaker 1: on how to get involved in politics, shares news about
Speaker 1: how politics impact women of color, and shares information about
Speaker 1: women of color running for elected office on the Brown
Speaker 1: Girls Guide to Politics. I'm here, Hello, Hello, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for being here with us today. Yes, thank
Speaker 1: you so much for joining us. I'm excited to be on,
Speaker 1: especially during GEO TV season. I mean, hello, amazing, amazing.
Speaker 1: So you know we're talking about political climate, UM, voting decisions,
Speaker 1: you know, especially with the current political climate that we
Speaker 1: have going on in this country. UM, why was this
Speaker 1: important to you? Tell me about your experience that made
Speaker 1: this a need for you or you saw this as
Speaker 1: a necessity, necessity to start the b G guide dot com.
Speaker 1: So the idea came to me as I was actually
Speaker 1: reflecting upon being in d C for almost ten years
Speaker 1: and just really taking it all in because I never
Speaker 1: saw myself as a black woman who could be in
Speaker 1: d C doing politics at the national level. And that
Speaker 1: came from the fact that I never saw a lot
Speaker 1: of black women from my home state, Nevada, doing politics.
Speaker 1: So it goes back to when you think about the phrase,
Speaker 1: if you don't see it, you can't be it, and
Speaker 1: I never thought that I could be it. So I
Speaker 1: really wanted to do something to pay it forward because
Speaker 1: I also knew that I was in the position that
Speaker 1: I wasn't because of women who had uplifted me, some
Speaker 1: of them white women, a lot of them women of color,
Speaker 1: and I was just thinking about all of those other
Speaker 1: young brown girls who were thinking, oh, I can't do
Speaker 1: that because I don't see a lot of people do it,
Speaker 1: but then also the ones who are trying to do it,
Speaker 1: and then had a ton of questions and we're seeking advice,
Speaker 1: And it was the same things that I was asking
Speaker 1: myself when I entered into politics. So I consider the
Speaker 1: Brown Girls Guy to Politics really my love letter to women,
Speaker 1: especially young women who are coming up in politics, but
Speaker 1: then also a place for us to see each other
Speaker 1: and know that we exist and to share our struggles
Speaker 1: and how we overcome it. And I decided to make
Speaker 1: the blog really focus on women of color because regardless
Speaker 1: of if you're a black woman, a Latina, Indigenous Asian,
Speaker 1: when we're in a lot of these political spaces and
Speaker 1: you're the only one regardless of your race or ethnicity,
Speaker 1: we're all going through the same thing. And I wanted
Speaker 1: us to be able to talk about it. And when
Speaker 1: I started it, I never really thought that it would
Speaker 1: take off the way that it did. And I'm very
Speaker 1: fortunate and blessed that so many women have resonated with
Speaker 1: with the blog, but then also non people of color
Speaker 1: who read the blog because they want to know how
Speaker 1: they can be better allies and accomplices that leads me
Speaker 1: to my first question, which is um as as a millennial,
Speaker 1: U might have a lot of conversation with millennials as
Speaker 1: well as also gen z as, gen zs and next
Speaker 1: year gen z right, And the biggest question they have
Speaker 1: for me sometimes it's okay when you think about politics,
Speaker 1: you think about Republicans, and Republicans are all about money, money, money, money, money.
Speaker 1: So this generation is about I gotta get mine, I
Speaker 1: gotta get mine. So I hear a lot of younger
Speaker 1: black people ask me question like, hey, should I be Republican?
Speaker 1: And if I'm really about my money? And then I
Speaker 1: hear other younger black millennials are like, well, if you're
Speaker 1: about social issues, you know you should be democratic. And
Speaker 1: and for me, I don't know how to answer the
Speaker 1: question because even even in this past election, I wondered, like,
Speaker 1: who do you vote for in the climate where it
Speaker 1: seems like everyone has their own agenda and sometimes their
Speaker 1: agenda just doesn't align with me personally? How do you
Speaker 1: navigate that in this climate, especially with social media. One
Speaker 1: of the things that I always tell people is you
Speaker 1: really have to examine the political parties, and you have
Speaker 1: to examine these candidates. But the most important thing to
Speaker 1: know is that there's never going to be a single
Speaker 1: person who is a percent about everything that you're about.
Speaker 1: There is no perfect candidate unless you run for office.
Speaker 1: So my first plug for people to run for office,
Speaker 1: and then you're running on all of the things that
Speaker 1: you care about. And there are Republicans who have money,
Speaker 1: there are Democrats who have money. There are Republicans who
Speaker 1: care about social issues. There are Democrats who care about
Speaker 1: social issues. You have to look at who is closest
Speaker 1: to where you want to be at on these issues.
Speaker 1: When we look at the political climate today, especially millennials,
Speaker 1: they don't identify with one particular political party as previous
Speaker 1: generations did. I mean, it's just a fact. We used
Speaker 1: to be able to say that if you vote three
Speaker 1: times in a row for a political a specific political party,
Speaker 1: you vote for that party the rest of your life.
Speaker 1: We really can't say that anymore. So many millennials are
Speaker 1: registering as independent because they are independent thinkers. So it's
Speaker 1: really not Republicans are about this, Democrats are about that.
Speaker 1: You have to look at the individual candidates who you
Speaker 1: are going to cast a vote for and who is
Speaker 1: going to best represent you. So you have to get
Speaker 1: out of that mind of every Democrat is the same,
Speaker 1: every Republican is the same, because they're not got you.
Speaker 1: I think that was my particular struggle. At the top
Speaker 1: of the show, my SoundBite was that, you know, I
Speaker 1: turned eighteen and it was like, oh great, I have
Speaker 1: this right to vote right now. And then I found
Speaker 1: myself in that very first election not voting. And that
Speaker 1: was mainly because, of course it was just me being
Speaker 1: younger and kind of just having that ignorance towards this
Speaker 1: ability that I have that my you know, ancestors has
Speaker 1: fought for. It's like this big thing around voting because
Speaker 1: it's like so many people before me, you know, fought
Speaker 1: for this right for me. But at the same time too,
Speaker 1: I struggled with this, well, I don't know who this
Speaker 1: perfect candidate is, Like in my mind, there was this
Speaker 1: perfect candidate that I was looking for that I didn't see.
Speaker 1: So it was like becoming this thing where I'm perfectly
Speaker 1: were you, like, oh man, brother, if he were, if
Speaker 1: he was here, he'd have been my prime candidates to
Speaker 1: vote for. But no, for me, it was also a
Speaker 1: thing where it's like, do I just now vote for
Speaker 1: the lesser of two evils, And to me that didn't
Speaker 1: even seem right either. So what do you say to
Speaker 1: those young women, um or just young individuals who are like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm not going to vote because my
Speaker 1: vote doesn't really count, or I'm not going to vote
Speaker 1: because it's like I just don't want to vote for
Speaker 1: the lesser of two evils. How do we navigate that
Speaker 1: with this generation? Oh my gosh, so two things here,
Speaker 1: and I totally relate to everything that she just said.
Speaker 1: Back in I was doing HBCU engagement out in Georgia.
Speaker 1: So I was at Clark Atlanta Morehouse Spellman like, went
Speaker 1: across the state to the h b c U s
Speaker 1: and when I encountered young people, they're like, I'm registered
Speaker 1: to vote, I want to vote, I just don't know
Speaker 1: who to vote for. I don't know who these candidates are.
Speaker 1: And for me, it's also very incumbent on these candidates
Speaker 1: to make sure that they're doing the proper outreach. And
Speaker 1: we've also just gotten away from really doing good civic
Speaker 1: engagement in school that so many people just don't even
Speaker 1: know why they should vote for their county commission or
Speaker 1: their city council, their shareff the d a's. We can
Speaker 1: have an entire conversation about the need to have more
Speaker 1: d as that are women and people of color d
Speaker 1: as or white men, and then we want to wonder
Speaker 1: why our criminal justice system looks the way that it does.
Speaker 1: So there definitely is that part where we need more
Speaker 1: education on what all these roles do and why we
Speaker 1: need to be voting for them and how they impact
Speaker 1: our daily lives. And then the work that I do
Speaker 1: in my professional career, I have literally seen women lose
Speaker 1: by one vote. That is not a joke. Literally have
Speaker 1: run campaigns for two years, three years just to lose
Speaker 1: by one vote. I have seen local government. I have
Speaker 1: seen women lose by a coin toss because in several
Speaker 1: states the law is that if an election ends up
Speaker 1: in a tie, you do a coin toss. So imagine
Speaker 1: hustling for so long to lose your race because you
Speaker 1: didn't choose heads or tails. So when we're talking about voting,
Speaker 1: it really doesn't matter. If we want to even look
Speaker 1: at the sixteen election, Hillary Clinton did get more votes
Speaker 1: than Donald Trump, she just didn't win the electoral college.
Speaker 1: So imagine what would have happened if in those three
Speaker 1: states that Trump won Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, more people would
Speaker 1: have turned out, what would this country look like today?
Speaker 1: Your vote is sacred. Your vote is important, And I
Speaker 1: especially say for people of color and millennials, if our
Speaker 1: votes weren't so important, they wouldn't be working so hard
Speaker 1: to suppress them because they know what happens when we
Speaker 1: actually get out there, turn out and vote, because we
Speaker 1: changed the trajectory of this country. You know what I've
Speaker 1: noticed though, especially in places like New York, a lot
Speaker 1: of my kids that are graduated from college, Um, you know,
Speaker 1: they said things to me like, listen, New York is
Speaker 1: a blue state, so it's gonna be blue. So for
Speaker 1: me voting, it really doesn't matter because it's a blue
Speaker 1: state that you know he's gonna win. Um, the Democrat
Speaker 1: always wins New York, so I don't really have to vote, which,
Speaker 1: you know, it's hard to argue with that. But my
Speaker 1: mom has always been about local government. Like you said,
Speaker 1: my mom calls me and my wife for every vote.
Speaker 1: She works for the DP, so she knows all the
Speaker 1: councilmen and she she's like, hey, you guys got to
Speaker 1: get out and vote. Yeah, we get that group group
Speaker 1: text and the group chat like we get and then
Speaker 1: I'm sometimes I'm like, I didn't even know there was
Speaker 1: an election going on. Who are we vote before? Now?
Speaker 1: You know, it's exhausting to try to keep on top
Speaker 1: of these things, but if it's important to you. And
Speaker 1: Kadina and I talked about when it really became important
Speaker 1: to us when we moved back and we were looking
Speaker 1: for um early childhood education for our kids, and we
Speaker 1: realized how important these owning laws were. You know, who,
Speaker 1: who's your alderman, who makes sure that the right funding
Speaker 1: goes to the right public school in your areas. These
Speaker 1: things made us realize, you know, we should have been
Speaker 1: out here paying attention to who we got in place
Speaker 1: in these local governments because these are the ones who
Speaker 1: are making decisions about where the resources go to our children,
Speaker 1: which so absolutely because at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: we focus so much on the presidential election cycle and
Speaker 1: who is our commander in chief, when in reality it
Speaker 1: is the state and local elected officials that have the
Speaker 1: most impact on our everyday lives. I was privileged to
Speaker 1: work in the Obama administration at the Department of Labor,
Speaker 1: and I was out traveling with Secretary of Salice and
Speaker 1: this one woman came up to me and she just
Speaker 1: started going off on me about this pothole in her
Speaker 1: street and why hasn't President Obama fixed her pothole? And
Speaker 1: she donated to him and she voted for him, and
Speaker 1: she still has this pothole. And I'm like, ma'am, the
Speaker 1: president doesn't fix potholes. You have to be going to
Speaker 1: your state and local elected officials. And she goes, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't pay attention to them, and that is exactly
Speaker 1: why you still have that pothole. It's extremely important that
Speaker 1: we know who these people are. And those are the
Speaker 1: elections where people really aren't engaged. They broadcast city council
Speaker 1: meetings and if you look at the audience, they're really empty.
Speaker 1: No one's, no one's there, no one's paying attention. And
Speaker 1: then these people continue to get reelected and re elected
Speaker 1: and nothing changes. And until people really start to pay
Speaker 1: attention and see the ways in which they're elected officials
Speaker 1: are failing them, you gotta vote them out if you
Speaker 1: want to see that change. But if you're like it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter, then it won't matter. And for me, I
Speaker 1: really don't see blue states, red states, purple states. There's
Speaker 1: always the opportunity to make change. And just because the
Speaker 1: state is one way, particularly a blue state, that doesn't
Speaker 1: mean that all the cities are blue. That doesn't mean
Speaker 1: every area is blue. There's always the chance to make
Speaker 1: things better. So the biggest thing is if you really
Speaker 1: want to make direct change immediately, the best way to
Speaker 1: go about it is with local government. That that especially daily,
Speaker 1: everyday life. And I think it's important that we say
Speaker 1: that for people our listeners, because everyone feels like if
Speaker 1: they don't have a choice and who is the president,
Speaker 1: that life is going to be terrible. You know, we
Speaker 1: we both thought that at times. No, it's true. Think
Speaker 1: about the first time Devot and I actually went to
Speaker 1: a local city council meeting in our area when we're
Speaker 1: in Crown Heights, Brooklyn, and de Val and I were
Speaker 1: there and we were probably the only exception of maybe
Speaker 1: like two or three other well, we were the only
Speaker 1: millennials of color, were over sixty, right, right, But then
Speaker 1: the majority was Hasidic Jewish and they were their demanding things.
Speaker 1: And I understood at that point why they get so
Speaker 1: much priority in Brooklyn because they are there, they're demanding
Speaker 1: things to get done. And if you know, if these
Speaker 1: are constituents, you're making sure, Well, these are the people
Speaker 1: who are going to vote me back in, I'm going
Speaker 1: to make sure thing things have done this way. We
Speaker 1: talked about zoning laws for school Why were there so
Speaker 1: little funds towards public schools in our area? That's because
Speaker 1: the parents of those public schools were not at these
Speaker 1: meetings exactly, and we didn't see it as something that
Speaker 1: we had to even be involved with until time came
Speaker 1: for our son to be zoned, you know, into a
Speaker 1: particular area, and we're like, wait a second, Wait a second,
Speaker 1: wait a second, what is the school rating? Another story,
Speaker 1: Mayor de Blasio. When we were looking at voting, right,
Speaker 1: you know what made us vote for de Blasio? He
Speaker 1: talked about universal pre K three for everyone in the city. Yes,
Speaker 1: and for me that was enough because we had a
Speaker 1: child and we were thinking about having more children, and
Speaker 1: it was like, we're looking at pre K prices and
Speaker 1: for private school pre K prices it was three thousand
Speaker 1: dollars a month, and I'm saying to myself, like, who
Speaker 1: would they, right mind, can afford to send to hit
Speaker 1: child to school for thirty dollars at four right? What
Speaker 1: are you going to my child, what are you gonna
Speaker 1: teach my child? And guarantee or four that was gonna
Speaker 1: make it worth sending this childow school for three thousand
Speaker 1: dollars a month. And I never paid as much attention
Speaker 1: to the mayoral race until then, and also with stopping
Speaker 1: for us because we were living in Michigan at the time,
Speaker 1: and then we moved back to New York and I
Speaker 1: had been stopped and fristed a ton of times getting
Speaker 1: out of my car, and I was like this, this
Speaker 1: is ridiculous. Like I come, I come inside almost in
Speaker 1: tears and be like what's the matter. And I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: these cops just you know, they took my bag, they
Speaker 1: looked at my bag, they pulled my shirt up, and
Speaker 1: then just sent me inside like okay, you're good. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm a hard working American. They're just just
Speaker 1: walking into my apartment building. Why do I have to
Speaker 1: go through this two or three times a week a month?
Speaker 1: And then I would get pulled over all the time,
Speaker 1: and then I was like, you know what we need
Speaker 1: to change. And at the time, um, who was the president,
Speaker 1: I mean, who was the mayor at the time. Before
Speaker 1: the Blasio Julian Bloomberg blog. All am, I'm pulling up
Speaker 1: all of it. Under the Bloomberg administration, we did very
Speaker 1: well economically, That's why he was able to get a
Speaker 1: third term when you're only supposed to be allowed two terms.
Speaker 1: But there was some other social issues that were just
Speaker 1: killing us as a people, killing me, particularly that I
Speaker 1: was just ready for a change. No, absolutely so, So
Speaker 1: let me ask you. I know that The Black Girl
Speaker 1: Guide to Politics has taught so many about so many things,
Speaker 1: But in your experience, what have you learned about just
Speaker 1: politics or about people in this process? And and um,
Speaker 1: you know, how how is it affecting the impact of
Speaker 1: women and color in politics. It has definitely taught me
Speaker 1: a lot. And I think it's even though I know this,
Speaker 1: just how even though are different, we have such different experiences,
Speaker 1: there's still that common denominator of just being a woman
Speaker 1: of color and politics. And I think it really hit
Speaker 1: me when we did a podcast episode with Kaya Morris,
Speaker 1: who is a former state representative from Vermont, and she
Speaker 1: actually ended up resigning her seats because of all the
Speaker 1: racist threats that her and her family were getting, and
Speaker 1: she just says she couldn't take it. Anymore. And in
Speaker 1: that conversation, we just talked about the struggle of being
Speaker 1: women of color in this space, because the reality is,
Speaker 1: I wake up every day and I do work in
Speaker 1: a system that was not built for me. Politics was
Speaker 1: built for white land owning men. And here I am
Speaker 1: showing that I have disrupted the system. But not only
Speaker 1: is my presence showing that I've disrupted this system, but
Speaker 1: I'm also here to tell you I'm going to disrupt
Speaker 1: it some more by getting more women and women of
Speaker 1: color involved. So I'm challenging power and when you actually
Speaker 1: see those reactions, it definitely does something to you. And
Speaker 1: with Kaya's episode, just the number of emails I got
Speaker 1: text messages from friends and everyone was just telling me
Speaker 1: how they could relate so much to what she said
Speaker 1: about the struggle. So it's really taught me that even
Speaker 1: though we continue to make headway, there's still so much
Speaker 1: that we have to do to advance as women of
Speaker 1: color on politics. And I'm just really glad that people
Speaker 1: see the b g G as an outlet where they
Speaker 1: can hear from other women and also share the things
Speaker 1: that we talk about and express their thoughts, their problems,
Speaker 1: their solutions as well. So let me ask a quick question,
Speaker 1: what what do we do to move forward and build
Speaker 1: off of this? Because you know, everyone says, we know
Speaker 1: what the problem is, we know what we have to do.
Speaker 1: How can someone educate themselves on politics? How can someone
Speaker 1: feel empowered as a voter, whether it is just a
Speaker 1: local election or the presidential election. A lot of people
Speaker 1: don't know how to gain information. I've had people ask me,
Speaker 1: should I watch CNN, O Fox? Like which one be
Speaker 1: lying more? You know, like these are some of the
Speaker 1: things that people ask me, and I want to be
Speaker 1: able to tell them. Okay, if you really want to
Speaker 1: educate yourself, this is how you go about doing it.
Speaker 1: So that is why I created the resources page on
Speaker 1: the Brown Girl's Guide website, and it has organizations that
Speaker 1: people can go to and look at what they are
Speaker 1: all about and find out for themselves. Just sitting on
Speaker 1: home watching CNN, Fox, MSNBC that is not the answer.
Speaker 1: That is not the activism that we need. We need
Speaker 1: to be educating ourselves. So if you just do want
Speaker 1: to stay an activists, you need to find an organization
Speaker 1: that lets you channel those issues that you're passionate about.
Speaker 1: If you realize you want to be more than an
Speaker 1: activist and a campaign staffer. Start researching organizations where you
Speaker 1: can put your talents to use. There are finance people
Speaker 1: on campaigns, so if you like money and want to
Speaker 1: raise money, you can do that. There's operations people if
Speaker 1: you like that sort of thing. Press people. Campaigns really
Speaker 1: are a business, so there's an opportunity to get involved
Speaker 1: there as well. And if you think you want to,
Speaker 1: I don't want to cut you off, but can you
Speaker 1: please explain that campaigns or business. And the reason why
Speaker 1: I say that is because people don't understand how much
Speaker 1: money gets involved in politics and how important it is
Speaker 1: to raise funds and how that can can pretty much
Speaker 1: to create a narrative for you to become the next
Speaker 1: local elected official. How is a campaign of the business?
Speaker 1: So a campaign is a business because at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, you have your candidate, so they are
Speaker 1: the business and they have to run this campaign. We
Speaker 1: all know that campaigns need money. That is reality. But
Speaker 1: I also tell people is that we live in an
Speaker 1: age because of the twenty four hour news cycle where
Speaker 1: people think that they have to raise millions of dollars
Speaker 1: to run for office. That's not true. There are races
Speaker 1: that only cost ten thousand dollars fifty dollars a hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars, you can absolutely raise that. When it comes
Speaker 1: to women and people color, the majority of our money
Speaker 1: comes from small dollar donor donations, which is all extremely possible.
Speaker 1: There are so many women people color that do get
Speaker 1: outspent by non white opponents. But guess what, they're still
Speaker 1: able to win because what they aren't able to do
Speaker 1: and fundraiseing, they still make up and shoe leather and
Speaker 1: knocking doors and having a good message, which is a
Speaker 1: part of selling your business. The campaign. You need to
Speaker 1: have someone out there who is your press secretary helping
Speaker 1: you get your information out, someone helping you with your
Speaker 1: policy for how this is going to benefit the community. Again,
Speaker 1: you have your operations people who are making sure that
Speaker 1: your business is running well. At the end of the day,
Speaker 1: there are all of these elements to campaigns, and there
Speaker 1: are opportunities for people to get involved as the active
Speaker 1: is volunteer or as a campaign staff. So so this
Speaker 1: money that they're raising is pretty much going to what
Speaker 1: it's just going to, like advertising and where's that money going, Oh,
Speaker 1: is to running the campaign. So that can be if
Speaker 1: they are doing TV ads, if they are doing radio ads,
Speaker 1: money goes to making sure that there's water for canvas
Speaker 1: ers so if it's a hot day, they're not getting dehydrated.
Speaker 1: More staff salaries. Pretty much every the marketing, the Facebook,
Speaker 1: as the Twitter, as the Instagram adds this is what
Speaker 1: all the money is used for. And to put the
Speaker 1: money into perspective, I tell people all the time that
Speaker 1: if they do a fundraiser with a twenty five ticket
Speaker 1: and they have twenty five people come, the money that
Speaker 1: they make from that fundraiser, that's actually enough money to
Speaker 1: buy campaign literature, to put on doors or to send out.
Speaker 1: So it really doesn't have to be a tens and
Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of dollars to run this effective business
Speaker 1: aka the campaign gotcha. So this is I think this
Speaker 1: is important for people to understand too. If a campaign
Speaker 1: is a business that you know, they always say that
Speaker 1: they get jaded by politics. Everyone is about the money.
Speaker 1: But if you understand of that that if this is
Speaker 1: a business, you can't run a campaign for free, then
Speaker 1: you would be a little bit more educated about how
Speaker 1: you deal with politicians and how they get your vote
Speaker 1: or how you how you can help the politician that
Speaker 1: you want to win. Win, even if you could help
Speaker 1: them do some fund of my when your own, would
Speaker 1: that be fight to to say? Oh absolutely. One of
Speaker 1: the things that I love is when people find a
Speaker 1: candidate where like, that is my candidate, that is my girl,
Speaker 1: that is my person. These campaigns can create individual fundraising
Speaker 1: links for you and you can actually go out to
Speaker 1: your friends, your family and raise money for these candidates.
Speaker 1: I see it all the time where people say it's
Speaker 1: my birthday, I'm raising money for Stacy. I used to
Speaker 1: see that all the time. That's during Stacy. Ways, no,
Speaker 1: that's this is actually great because so many millennials are
Speaker 1: independent thinkers and they said, you know, I don't want
Speaker 1: to just vote, I want to help. How could I help? Now,
Speaker 1: it's true they may not be able to go out
Speaker 1: there and march do different things, but if you want
Speaker 1: to help, if you could help raise funds for the
Speaker 1: politician you think best represents your interests. Now you know
Speaker 1: that there are ways as a millennial or agency, it
Speaker 1: becomes more than just a hashtag. You know, it's easy
Speaker 1: to just be posting stuff and like, oh, repost this
Speaker 1: hashtag you know such and such for president. But now
Speaker 1: at this time, it's like great, we can actually put
Speaker 1: our fingers in our hands in it and really support.
Speaker 1: So then you know, this is just like a hypothetical question.
Speaker 1: Say I wanted to run for office, you know you
Speaker 1: wanted to run for office woman of color? Where would
Speaker 1: I start? Where would a woman of colors start, or
Speaker 1: anyone really start if they wanted to run for office?
Speaker 1: Is there kind of like a step by step that
Speaker 1: there is or a protocol that one has to go through,
Speaker 1: and you got to the office exactly. So that's the
Speaker 1: first thing. The first thing is to know why you
Speaker 1: are running and what you want to accomplish, and then
Speaker 1: find the office that will allow you to get those
Speaker 1: things done so you are effective for your community. And
Speaker 1: then I always recommend getting training. In my professional career
Speaker 1: on the national political director for Emerge America, and we
Speaker 1: focus on recruiting and training women to run for office,
Speaker 1: and we do it in depth Signature seventy our training
Speaker 1: program where we demystify the process of running for office.
Speaker 1: Other organizations to do this, such as the Collective Pack
Speaker 1: where they focus on black candidates and black campaign staff.
Speaker 1: There are wonderful organizations run by my friends Quentin and
Speaker 1: Stephanie Brown James absolutely love them. They saw the need
Speaker 1: for this, so they're doing it. You also have other
Speaker 1: organizations such as Run for Something, Running Start, which is
Speaker 1: for young women, Emily's List, Vote Run Lead, She Should Run.
Speaker 1: Just amazing. Groups are out there to provide this support
Speaker 1: so you don't have to do it alone. And they
Speaker 1: all have different structures. So if you aren't able to
Speaker 1: do an emerge because your race is starting now you
Speaker 1: don't think you'll have the time, there's all these other
Speaker 1: organizations that you can go to to get some training
Speaker 1: and figure out, Okay, how do I run this really
Speaker 1: great campaign? Very nice. It kind of reminds me of
Speaker 1: my pageant days. It's like, oh, I want to run
Speaker 1: for Miss America. So I had to raise money. Then
Speaker 1: I had a team around me that trained me, you know,
Speaker 1: in order to win. It's kind of like parallels. I
Speaker 1: don't want to hold you up. Oh, I'm loving this conversation,
Speaker 1: but yeah, when when you run for office, you want
Speaker 1: to be prepared. But we really find that is especially
Speaker 1: true for women. We want to know, okay, exactly what
Speaker 1: are all the things that I need to do and
Speaker 1: what we do at emerges. I tell them We can
Speaker 1: definitely make you competent about what it takes to run
Speaker 1: for office. We can make you confident when you're out
Speaker 1: there on the campaign trail. And because we provide this
Speaker 1: network of support, we also make it less lonely because
Speaker 1: you have all these people who are uplifting you and
Speaker 1: rooting for you to succeed. So before we let you go,
Speaker 1: I have one one final question. Can you just give
Speaker 1: us some insight on what we can We have a
Speaker 1: year now before the next presidential election. Yeah, what could
Speaker 1: we do to educate on picking the correct candidate? Yeah?
Speaker 1: The first thing is just to make sure all your
Speaker 1: voter registration is up to date. I have to start
Speaker 1: with that because we have all of these crazy and
Speaker 1: a laws going on, We're most likely going to enter
Speaker 1: another presidential election cycle without the full protection of the
Speaker 1: Voting Rights Act, which is very scary. So the biggest
Speaker 1: thing you have to do is make sure that you're
Speaker 1: all set to vote. The second thing is think about
Speaker 1: your life. What is going to impact you the most
Speaker 1: over the next five years, and then those are going
Speaker 1: to be your issues that you're going to want to
Speaker 1: concentrate on when it's time to vote. And three you've
Speaker 1: got to start paying attention now we are already in
Speaker 1: there's so much going on, so there's gonna be another
Speaker 1: Democratic debate coming up. Make sure that you watch that.
Speaker 1: One of the things that we have on the b
Speaker 1: g G Events page is we list all of the
Speaker 1: different presidential forums that happen, and those happen across the country,
Speaker 1: So look for a presidential forum to attend as well,
Speaker 1: so you can get up close and personal to these candidates.
Speaker 1: You just don't have to see them on your TV.
Speaker 1: And make sure that you're paying attention to the things
Speaker 1: that are coming through in your local news, especially when
Speaker 1: these candidates visit CNN, MSNBC, Fox. They're always going to
Speaker 1: be there, but you want to hone in on what's
Speaker 1: going to happen locally, and that has to be in
Speaker 1: your local papers and we just aren't reading them anymore.
Speaker 1: And if you start to focus on those three things,
Speaker 1: you will be ready to vote come November. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much. We have voter registration, we have your life
Speaker 1: impacts for the next five years. And also watch the debates.
Speaker 1: And while I'm asking by watching debates, you mentioned goot V,
Speaker 1: can you explain to us real briefly with gt IF
Speaker 1: our listeners who may not know. Yes, So when I
Speaker 1: said goot V, that is get out the vote, absolutely,
Speaker 1: and before we wrap you and um, you know, thank
Speaker 1: you for being here just really quick. Do you have
Speaker 1: maybe like two or three important issues for the presidential
Speaker 1: candidates that are coming up, Anything that they're focusing on
Speaker 1: you think will be the hot topics that they're going
Speaker 1: to try to kind of sell two Americans. What are
Speaker 1: going to be those those key things we're going to
Speaker 1: look at. Definitely look at criminal justice reform. That is
Speaker 1: a big one for both Democrats and Republicans. There is
Speaker 1: the twenty Bipartisan Justice Forum coming up that's going to
Speaker 1: focus on criminal justice reform, and I believe that one's
Speaker 1: going to be streamed so you can check out their website.
Speaker 1: I would also look at gun violence prevention that's going
Speaker 1: to be a big one as well. And then for
Speaker 1: the third one, I'd probably have to go with a
Speaker 1: tie between climate change and health care. So I think
Speaker 1: those are big ones. We can see all of the
Speaker 1: political parties focusing on. It's insane you just saying those
Speaker 1: three topics. I literally got chills because I can think
Speaker 1: about how it directly impacts, if not me, someone I
Speaker 1: know in the future. It's just it's just insane. It's insane.
Speaker 1: I hear you. I tell people I don't have kids,
Speaker 1: but I have a niece and five net hues. And
Speaker 1: for me, when I'm doing my five years, my five
Speaker 1: years includes their life too for sure. What are the
Speaker 1: things that they're going to need as they grow up
Speaker 1: in this country? Ashanti, you are a wealth of knowledge
Speaker 1: with the topic that I particularly. I feel like I've
Speaker 1: been a little quiet this session because I'm really trying
Speaker 1: to take this in and I think it's so important
Speaker 1: for people to really hear from an expert in someone
Speaker 1: who is devoted to this cause and to this topic
Speaker 1: to really give us information. So thank you for taking
Speaker 1: time out of your super busy schedule to come in
Speaker 1: and chat with us for a little bit. And maybe
Speaker 1: we can have you back on like next year or
Speaker 1: something and the next next season or two when the
Speaker 1: actual elections are happening, so we can see what's happened
Speaker 1: and what's developed from now till then. Yeah, I would
Speaker 1: love that. This has been so much fun. Thank you
Speaker 1: for having me. It's definitely our pleasure. And keep doing
Speaker 1: what you're doing, man, we definitely need you, absolutely and
Speaker 1: right before you go, make sure you tell everyone where
Speaker 1: they can find you, where they can find the Brown
Speaker 1: Girls Guide. Give us all of your handle information so
Speaker 1: they can not follow. Awesome. Yes, so the Brown Girls
Speaker 1: Guide to Politics. Our website is the b G Guide
Speaker 1: dot com and you can find us on Twitter, Facebook
Speaker 1: and Instagram at the b G Guide and all of
Speaker 1: my social handles is just my name a Shanty Golar. Wonderful.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, have a great rest of the
Speaker 1: day and enjoy the rest of your week. Thanks so much.
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Speaker 1: think you'd drilled that into their head enough. We got
Speaker 1: listener letters. So let's start with question number one. I
Speaker 1: got to read that, what advice do you have about
Speaker 1: transitioning into adulthood? Don't do it? Great? That done? And
Speaker 1: if you could give your twenty five year itself some advice,
Speaker 1: what would you tell yourself to provide some back on information.
Speaker 1: I'm twenty five and I've just started a new chapter
Speaker 1: in my life where I've moved into a different area,
Speaker 1: started a new position, and I'm starting my master's program
Speaker 1: in the fall. I'm watching my peers start to do
Speaker 1: serious things. I get married and have children, start full
Speaker 1: time jobs after graduating from college, and things of that nature.
Speaker 1: It's a bit overwhelming, and lately I find myself reminiscing
Speaker 1: on the way things used to be when I was
Speaker 1: in undergrad and was surrounded by my friends and in
Speaker 1: college environment. Girl, that's the first thing that's well, I
Speaker 1: should I say girl, I don't know if it's a
Speaker 1: girl or a guy, so excuse me for that. But
Speaker 1: the first thing is the first thing that I would
Speaker 1: tell you as that piece of advice, stop comparing your
Speaker 1: life and your path and your road to everyone else
Speaker 1: around you. That is a sure, sure shot, sure fire
Speaker 1: away to then start feeling overwhelmed and feeling a bit
Speaker 1: depressed and feeling as if you aren't achieving things at
Speaker 1: the rate other people are achieving things, and that just
Speaker 1: may not be your walk. Also, people be lying on Instagram,
Speaker 1: a people will be lying on social media. Everybody's life
Speaker 1: looks amazing on social media. It's a reel of highlight, folks.
Speaker 1: It looks amazing. So when you look at other people's
Speaker 1: life on social media, don't get all excited and say, Wow,
Speaker 1: they're doing everything perfect and I'm here stuck. Majority the
Speaker 1: people you see on social media are stuck as well.
Speaker 1: They just post what they want to post so they
Speaker 1: can curate a narrative for you to see. But if
Speaker 1: you do have friends who are media like that, yeah,
Speaker 1: But if you do have friends who are like close
Speaker 1: friends who are getting married and having children and starting
Speaker 1: their full time jobs, that just maybe what is in
Speaker 1: their lineup for them at that moment. You said that
Speaker 1: you're now starting fresh and new chapter. You've moved into
Speaker 1: a different area, starting a new position, So it sounds
Speaker 1: like you're in the building phase of things. The building
Speaker 1: phase of things require sometimes, you know, having to have
Speaker 1: that tunnel vision where you're kind of drowning everything else
Speaker 1: out and you're focusing on that. But it's also that
Speaker 1: that it's the building of it. So it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a slow process of trying to get into your routine
Speaker 1: and you know, making sure that you're doing everything to
Speaker 1: then advance and whether it's your career or your life
Speaker 1: and whatever avenue you're taking it. But I just say,
Speaker 1: trying not to compare yourself to other people. It was
Speaker 1: hard to valance. I did that in the very beginning
Speaker 1: to when we were around. That's when we got engaged
Speaker 1: because everyone around us was getting engaged and it seemed
Speaker 1: like the right thing to do. And you know, you
Speaker 1: have that list of things that you're trying to do
Speaker 1: in your life where it's like, you know, I got
Speaker 1: to start this job, and then I have to meet someone,
Speaker 1: and I have to date and then have the wee date,
Speaker 1: we get engaged, and then we get married and we
Speaker 1: have children, and things don't necessarily pan out that way.
Speaker 1: So don't be too hard on yourself. It seems like
Speaker 1: you do have somewhat of a good situation happening right
Speaker 1: now because you are, you know, starting a new master's
Speaker 1: program and a new position. So just keep building, you know,
Speaker 1: put your nose down and just keep building and work
Speaker 1: at it. And I think you'll be all right. But
Speaker 1: you did ask specifically, what if ice I would give
Speaker 1: my twenty five year old self and I would tell
Speaker 1: my twenty five year els of this. Remember that your
Speaker 1: life will not be defined by what you do in
Speaker 1: your twenties period. It doesn't matter how much money you
Speaker 1: make or lose, if you get married, have kids. Don't
Speaker 1: you have so much life to live. When you start
Speaker 1: to think that you have to do everything between the
Speaker 1: ages of twenty and twenty nine, that's when you're going
Speaker 1: to become overwhelmed and then you're gonna lose it. That's
Speaker 1: the biggest way to disappointment. Setting high expectations for yourself.
Speaker 1: So remember, you got your whole life to do these things.
Speaker 1: Get them done. They'll get done in your own time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I set their expectations and dream big. Definitely dream big,
Speaker 1: but you know, just know, it takes time to work
Speaker 1: at it. All right. I hope that helps you out
Speaker 1: onto a question number two. All Right, my man and
Speaker 1: I live an hour apart, but for almost two years
Speaker 1: we've always made the effort to see each other. It
Speaker 1: may not be every day, but we appreciate each other's
Speaker 1: company more than you know. We recently got married, and
Speaker 1: although I'm madly in love with my husband, I also
Speaker 1: love my own space. I purposely don't push the conversation
Speaker 1: of moving in together. I dream of having our beautiful
Speaker 1: place to call home, but getting there seems to be
Speaker 1: the hard part for me. How do I move forward
Speaker 1: without the anxiety of moving in together. We've had conversations
Speaker 1: about it, and I have no problem admitting that I'm
Speaker 1: the hold up. So you're recently married and still living apart.
Speaker 1: That's interesting because I would think once you're married, you
Speaker 1: would just be wanting to then move together or listen
Speaker 1: to the same space. But I've learned not to judge
Speaker 1: people on how they live. If you got married to
Speaker 1: live apart, and it works for y'all. Then it works
Speaker 1: for y'all, because I've recently said to Cadee that I
Speaker 1: feel like we worked best when we're not together all
Speaker 1: the time. You know, sometimes moving in together can be
Speaker 1: the worst thing for a relationship because you don't know
Speaker 1: how to give each other some space. And I think,
Speaker 1: like with us, Deval and I has been shoots just
Speaker 1: past seventeen years together. So sometimes alone time is the
Speaker 1: best time because you can really just kind of unwind
Speaker 1: and be yourself and you don't have that that need
Speaker 1: to feel like you have to always quote unquote entertain somebody. UM.
Speaker 1: And we're okay with moments like that, Deval and I, UM,
Speaker 1: but why even get married if you're not comfortable sharing
Speaker 1: personal space like that? Seems to be like a very
Speaker 1: personal decision to make. We're gonna be together, but we're
Speaker 1: gonna be together away, you know what I'm saying. And like,
Speaker 1: I don't understand. Yeah, I don't understand that either that, yeah,
Speaker 1: we recently got married and all that on madly enough
Speaker 1: of my husband. I also love my own space. I
Speaker 1: don't know, sis. And then it also she's also saying
Speaker 1: at the same time too, that she knows she's the
Speaker 1: hold up and he's had conversations about it, so you know,
Speaker 1: he wants he wants to move with her. She don't
Speaker 1: want to move in, but she wanted to get married.
Speaker 1: I'm wondering why she wanted to get married. She don't
Speaker 1: want to live with somebody, right, not saying that you
Speaker 1: have to live with somebody to be married, because clearly
Speaker 1: you don't, especially two, You can do whatever you want
Speaker 1: to do. I just don't. I don't understand. If you
Speaker 1: value your personal space that much, then that means being
Speaker 1: by yourself is more valuable than being with someone. Why
Speaker 1: would you choose to spend your life building with someone? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that would be rough. I would feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: for a husband or for a spouse, you know whatever,
Speaker 1: if putting myself in his shoes, feeling like we're married
Speaker 1: and now I can't have you like with me building
Speaker 1: a home together? Like what what? What's the timeline for that?
Speaker 1: And I'm wondering what the conversations have sounded like, like
Speaker 1: what's his perspective on it? You know? So I would
Speaker 1: love to get a little more information about this question,
Speaker 1: but I'm left kind of feeling like, you know, what
Speaker 1: are we doing here? I'm at I'm a little confused.
Speaker 1: I don't know why you get married if you don't
Speaker 1: want to live together. I know there are other valuable
Speaker 1: access to being married. There's probably ways to also still
Speaker 1: have your space while being married or living in the home,
Speaker 1: you know, like sometimes a guy has their man cave
Speaker 1: or maybe you might want her, you know, a little
Speaker 1: space where it's yours or time for yourself. I can
Speaker 1: get that I want a husband. That's kind of controlling.
Speaker 1: I want a husband, but I want to be by myself.
Speaker 1: I want you around when I want you around, right,
Speaker 1: that's not that I don't know, since I don't know,
Speaker 1: that's interesting, But yeah, I'm curious to know what those
Speaker 1: conversations sound like and how do I move forward without
Speaker 1: the anxiety of moving in together. I mean, you may
Speaker 1: have to also give it a try, you know. I'm
Speaker 1: an advocate for trying living with someone before marriage, just
Speaker 1: to kind of see how it goes. But not everyone
Speaker 1: is UM don't want to be married. She probably wanted
Speaker 1: to have a nice wedding, got a nice wedding. He
Speaker 1: probably was thinking, you know what, once I get married.
Speaker 1: She let me. She was like, nah, bro, I'm still
Speaker 1: going he send us to follow up to that, since
Speaker 1: let's let us know what going on, we might have
Speaker 1: to do a part two to that one. Absolutely, and
Speaker 1: if you want to be featured as one of our
Speaker 1: listener letters, email us at dead ass Advice at gmail
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Speaker 1: All Right, moment of truth time. Moment of truth time.
Speaker 1: So we talked to politics, doing the right thing. Being
Speaker 1: well versed in your political affiliations. What's your takeaway from today? Baby?
Speaker 1: This is my biggest takeaway. You know, Um, I think
Speaker 1: we've passed the time of where it's like, if you're
Speaker 1: just black, you're Democrat. We have a lot more independent
Speaker 1: black thinkers out here in the world, right, So choosing
Speaker 1: to register us independent may work for people. And then
Speaker 1: I've I've learned a lot in the last presidential election
Speaker 1: about people saying earn my vote, Like you gotta earn
Speaker 1: my vote. Don't just think that because I'm a Democrat,
Speaker 1: I'm automatically going to get all these people to vote
Speaker 1: for me. We need to make people earn our votes,
Speaker 1: and we need to do the correct due diligence to
Speaker 1: give the people to vote that we believe in. Rather
Speaker 1: than just saying, hey, I'm gonna go with this political party,
Speaker 1: whether it's Republican, whether it's Democrat, you really have to
Speaker 1: educate yourself and educate yourself and what's important for you first,
Speaker 1: not just what's important for everybody. Because these things that
Speaker 1: you do, these people you vote for, are gonna affect
Speaker 1: you daily, especially in local elections. So listen, be independent,
Speaker 1: being an independent thinker. Don't just follow the crowd. Educate
Speaker 1: yourself and vote for the person that can help change
Speaker 1: your life. Yep. I think that's a that's a great
Speaker 1: takeaway from today. Um in that also to piggyback and
Speaker 1: off of that, I think that my biggest takeaway is
Speaker 1: that politics is more than just a hashtag. It's more
Speaker 1: than sitting behind your phone and you know, hashtag and
Speaker 1: whatever movement is happening at the time. It's really a
Speaker 1: out trying to get your feet wet in it and
Speaker 1: being a private be active. So, like a Shanty said,
Speaker 1: if it meant that you know you're really um, you know,
Speaker 1: gung ho about this particular candidate, it's like going to
Speaker 1: the base camp and seeing how you can help with
Speaker 1: that business side of it. Does it mean that you're
Speaker 1: going to be out there helping, you know, to pass
Speaker 1: out pamphlets. Are you going to be helping to collect
Speaker 1: money to contribute to this this this candidate's movement, like
Speaker 1: really just putting your hands and your feet in and saying,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm going to be a part of this.
Speaker 1: And then in that in that turn, you can also
Speaker 1: then we have have more um you'll be more educated,
Speaker 1: you know, ultimately a bile assounce to just being more
Speaker 1: educated about what your choice is going to be. You
Speaker 1: said something just not resonated with me that I completely
Speaker 1: forgot about. But politics is business. A campaign is a business.
Speaker 1: You don't blindly invest in any business. You shouldn't blindly
Speaker 1: invest in politics. Sound bite for you there, So be
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