1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: We're back. I'm Drew McCarry and I'm David Roth and 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: coming in September a new site we have built together 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: called defect or Defector, and we're gonna have a new 4 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: podcast to go with it, this very podcast which has 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: the name The Distraction. It's out right now at availble 6 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: ever rest podcast at Stitcher, Spotify, Apple, Go listen right 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: now to The Distraction everywhere. It's out right now. Go 8 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: listen to see I buy. When I turned eighteen and 9 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: gained the right to vote, how was that girl that 10 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:38,279 Speaker 1: did not vote? Because I didn't think that accounted who? 11 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: When I started to make more money is when I 12 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: started to question my political alliances. And then when I 13 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: moved back to Brooklyn is when I realized how wrong 14 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: I was and what I thought politics really means. M hmm, 15 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: dead ass. Heydein, and we're You may know us from 16 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: posting funny videos with our boys and reading each other 17 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 1: publicly as a form of therapy. Wait, I make you 18 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: need derby most days. And one more important thing to mention, 19 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: we're married, Yes, sir, we are. We created this podcast 20 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: to open dialogue about some of live's most taboo topics. 21 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: Things most folks don't want to talk about through the 22 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: lens of a millennium married couple. Dead ass is a 23 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: term that we say every day. Where we say dead ass, 24 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: we're actually saying facts on the truth, the whole truth, 25 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: and nothing but the truth. We're about to take philow 26 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: talk to a whole new level. Dead ask starts now. 27 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: So this is two thousand and nine. I believe we 28 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: just moved back to Brooklyn. Codeine and I had decided 29 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: that we didn't want to stay in Michigan after I 30 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: was released, so we moved back to Brooklyn and UH 31 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: stayed in my grandmother's apartment. Like I've said before on 32 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: many occasions, we had lost a ton of money in 33 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: the stock market because the economy was literally crashing as 34 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: we were going through the recession, and I was no 35 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: longer playing football, so a lot of my liquid capital 36 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: I didn't have access to my own property. UM I 37 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: had stocks, so I had assets, I just didn't have 38 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 1: liquid capital. So we moved back to Brooklyn and I 39 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,679 Speaker 1: started building my company and I started mentoring young men. 40 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: And after going through everything I went through with money, 41 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: I just focused all of my politics on money. And 42 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: it wasn't until we got back to Brooklyn. I started 43 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: mentoring these young men and I started hearing firsthand the 44 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: situations they were dealing with with police with stopping frisk. 45 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: When Codeine got pregnant and we were trying to find 46 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,839 Speaker 1: early childhood education, that I realized there's so much more 47 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: to politics than just money. And it's funny because when 48 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: you when you start to make a lot of money 49 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: and you feel like you can buy your way out 50 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: of certain situations, it don't seem like it affects you. 51 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: And it wasn't until we moved back to Brooklyn and 52 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: I started to have these conversations with the young men 53 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: about what they were going through on a daily basis 54 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: that I realized that politics was a lot more than 55 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: just money. Wow, that hit home for you. Huh, definitely, 56 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: get up, stand up to do to do to stand 57 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: up for your rights? Do do? Get up, stand up, 58 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: stand up for your rights. Don't give up the fight. 59 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: You know, that's Kyro's favorite. As I said, just don't 60 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 1: give up the fight. I thought about it, that is 61 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: Kyl's favorite song. He's a little rebel and it's you 62 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: know Kyro, it makes sense. He got he done up, 63 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: stand up for something. He loves Bob Marley Jackson loves 64 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: I know. I made sure my kids were you know 65 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: about that. It's a great dude. We talk about impact 66 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: and culture from musicians and people who made their life 67 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: really about what their messages. Bob Marley has to be 68 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: number one. Absolutely, he lived up to that man. I mean, 69 00:03:55,640 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: a worldwide sensation that just preached love and unity together 70 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: and happiness and wealth being more than most small was 71 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: able to reach the entire world. Shout out to someone 72 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: recently asked me that too. If I could bring somebody 73 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: back the cat It was on the Red carpet at 74 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: that time, and I said about Marley, if I could 75 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: bring someone back to witness where we are now. Although 76 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: I feel like some of our ancestors who have gone 77 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 1: on might be shaking their head of us, like what 78 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: is going on? But we have made some problems, but 79 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: there are there are some great moments. Yeah, there's some 80 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: great moments that I would love to share with them. Absolutely. 81 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: So we're talking about politics today, guys, and we think 82 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: it's important to talk about politics because on the previous 83 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,119 Speaker 1: podcast we have politics as one of the main things 84 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: that people should speak about when they're dating. Oh yes, 85 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: that was one of the top five talking about politics 86 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: and what used to be taboo, and you never mentioned 87 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: or speak to in public about, you know, with people, 88 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: this is something that we want you to be informed 89 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: about when you're making your voter decisions. And I think 90 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 1: it was important for us to talk about because we 91 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 1: always speak about relationship issues on this show, and we 92 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: always speak about the things that can help create a 93 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: more healthy relationship. And I feel like if two people 94 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: are evenly yoked when they talk about spirituality, you know, 95 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 1: if they can discuss politics, they can get a greater 96 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: idea about the other person's moral compass if you know 97 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: what they're voting for, why they're voting for, who they're 98 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 1: voting for. And I also believe that as millennials, we 99 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: have a lot more independent thinkers than we've had, you know, 100 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: in previous generations. For sure, we're all pushing where there's 101 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: a lot more people pushing the envelope now asking the 102 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: wise and they want that explanation and they're willing to 103 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: go find out the answer. Yes. And I also see 104 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: that UM a lot of people like to utilize social media. 105 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: For example, I saw a video of it was Donald 106 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: Trump and he was surrounded by a bunch of black 107 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: college kids, and there's a young black man just up 108 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: there saying, like, we love Donald Trump. We love Donald Trump. 109 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: And what happens is is if people don't educate themselves 110 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: on who they should vote for, sometimes they just see 111 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: images and follow the images to say, hey, if they're 112 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: saying this, then it must be true. Right. So I 113 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 1: think it's important TV up to stand next to somebody 114 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 1: and as well. Yeah, and I think that it's important 115 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: for us to educate ourselves, you know, and say, you 116 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: know what, let's make the right decision for us. All right. 117 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: So today we're talking about doing the right thing, especially 118 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 1: when it comes to politics and the political climate that 119 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: we're in right now. So our special guest for today 120 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: is miss Ashanti Golar and she is responsible for a 121 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: blog for women women of color, particularly that gives advice 122 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 1: on how to get involved in politics, shares news about 123 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: how politics impact women of color, and shares information about 124 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: women of color running for elected office on the Brown 125 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 1: Girls Guide to Politics. I'm here, Hello, Hello, thank you 126 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: so much for being here with us today. Yes, thank 127 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 1: you so much for joining us. I'm excited to be on, 128 00:06:55,320 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: especially during GEO TV season. I mean, hello, amazing, amazing. 129 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: So you know we're talking about political climate, UM, voting decisions, 130 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: you know, especially with the current political climate that we 131 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: have going on in this country. UM, why was this 132 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,679 Speaker 1: important to you? Tell me about your experience that made 133 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: this a need for you or you saw this as 134 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: a necessity, necessity to start the b G guide dot com. 135 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: So the idea came to me as I was actually 136 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: reflecting upon being in d C for almost ten years 137 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: and just really taking it all in because I never 138 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: saw myself as a black woman who could be in 139 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: d C doing politics at the national level. And that 140 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: came from the fact that I never saw a lot 141 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: of black women from my home state, Nevada, doing politics. 142 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: So it goes back to when you think about the phrase, 143 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: if you don't see it, you can't be it, and 144 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: I never thought that I could be it. So I 145 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: really wanted to do something to pay it forward because 146 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: I also knew that I was in the position that 147 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: I wasn't because of women who had uplifted me, some 148 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: of them white women, a lot of them women of color, 149 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: and I was just thinking about all of those other 150 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: young brown girls who were thinking, oh, I can't do 151 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: that because I don't see a lot of people do it, 152 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: but then also the ones who are trying to do it, 153 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: and then had a ton of questions and we're seeking advice, 154 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: And it was the same things that I was asking 155 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: myself when I entered into politics. So I consider the 156 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: Brown Girls Guy to Politics really my love letter to women, 157 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: especially young women who are coming up in politics, but 158 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: then also a place for us to see each other 159 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: and know that we exist and to share our struggles 160 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: and how we overcome it. And I decided to make 161 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: the blog really focus on women of color because regardless 162 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: of if you're a black woman, a Latina, Indigenous Asian, 163 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: when we're in a lot of these political spaces and 164 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: you're the only one regardless of your race or ethnicity, 165 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: we're all going through the same thing. And I wanted 166 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: us to be able to talk about it. And when 167 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: I started it, I never really thought that it would 168 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: take off the way that it did. And I'm very 169 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: fortunate and blessed that so many women have resonated with 170 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: with the blog, but then also non people of color 171 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: who read the blog because they want to know how 172 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: they can be better allies and accomplices that leads me 173 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: to my first question, which is um as as a millennial, 174 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: U might have a lot of conversation with millennials as 175 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 1: well as also gen z as, gen zs and next 176 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: year gen z right, And the biggest question they have 177 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: for me sometimes it's okay when you think about politics, 178 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: you think about Republicans, and Republicans are all about money, money, money, money, money. 179 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 1: So this generation is about I gotta get mine, I 180 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: gotta get mine. So I hear a lot of younger 181 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 1: black people ask me question like, hey, should I be Republican? 182 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: And if I'm really about my money? And then I 183 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: hear other younger black millennials are like, well, if you're 184 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: about social issues, you know you should be democratic. And 185 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: and for me, I don't know how to answer the 186 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: question because even even in this past election, I wondered, like, 187 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: who do you vote for in the climate where it 188 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: seems like everyone has their own agenda and sometimes their 189 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: agenda just doesn't align with me personally? How do you 190 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: navigate that in this climate, especially with social media. One 191 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: of the things that I always tell people is you 192 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: really have to examine the political parties, and you have 193 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: to examine these candidates. But the most important thing to 194 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: know is that there's never going to be a single 195 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: person who is a percent about everything that you're about. 196 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: There is no perfect candidate unless you run for office. 197 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: So my first plug for people to run for office, 198 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: and then you're running on all of the things that 199 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: you care about. And there are Republicans who have money, 200 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: there are Democrats who have money. There are Republicans who 201 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 1: care about social issues. There are Democrats who care about 202 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: social issues. You have to look at who is closest 203 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: to where you want to be at on these issues. 204 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: When we look at the political climate today, especially millennials, 205 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: they don't identify with one particular political party as previous 206 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: generations did. I mean, it's just a fact. We used 207 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: to be able to say that if you vote three 208 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: times in a row for a political a specific political party, 209 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: you vote for that party the rest of your life. 210 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: We really can't say that anymore. So many millennials are 211 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: registering as independent because they are independent thinkers. So it's 212 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: really not Republicans are about this, Democrats are about that. 213 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: You have to look at the individual candidates who you 214 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: are going to cast a vote for and who is 215 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: going to best represent you. So you have to get 216 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 1: out of that mind of every Democrat is the same, 217 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: every Republican is the same, because they're not got you. 218 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: I think that was my particular struggle. At the top 219 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: of the show, my SoundBite was that, you know, I 220 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: turned eighteen and it was like, oh great, I have 221 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: this right to vote right now. And then I found 222 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: myself in that very first election not voting. And that 223 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: was mainly because, of course it was just me being 224 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: younger and kind of just having that ignorance towards this 225 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: ability that I have that my you know, ancestors has 226 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: fought for. It's like this big thing around voting because 227 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 1: it's like so many people before me, you know, fought 228 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: for this right for me. But at the same time too, 229 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: I struggled with this, well, I don't know who this 230 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: perfect candidate is, Like in my mind, there was this 231 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: perfect candidate that I was looking for that I didn't see. 232 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: So it was like becoming this thing where I'm perfectly 233 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: were you, like, oh man, brother, if he were, if 234 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 1: he was here, he'd have been my prime candidates to 235 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: vote for. But no, for me, it was also a 236 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: thing where it's like, do I just now vote for 237 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: the lesser of two evils, And to me that didn't 238 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: even seem right either. So what do you say to 239 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: those young women, um or just young individuals who are like, 240 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm not going to vote because my 241 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: vote doesn't really count, or I'm not going to vote 242 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: because it's like I just don't want to vote for 243 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: the lesser of two evils. How do we navigate that 244 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: with this generation? Oh my gosh, so two things here, 245 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: and I totally relate to everything that she just said. 246 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: Back in I was doing HBCU engagement out in Georgia. 247 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: So I was at Clark Atlanta Morehouse Spellman like, went 248 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:26,719 Speaker 1: across the state to the h b c U s 249 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: and when I encountered young people, they're like, I'm registered 250 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: to vote, I want to vote, I just don't know 251 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: who to vote for. I don't know who these candidates are. 252 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: And for me, it's also very incumbent on these candidates 253 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: to make sure that they're doing the proper outreach. And 254 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: we've also just gotten away from really doing good civic 255 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: engagement in school that so many people just don't even 256 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: know why they should vote for their county commission or 257 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,719 Speaker 1: their city council, their shareff the d a's. We can 258 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 1: have an entire conversation about the need to have more 259 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 1: d as that are women and people of color d 260 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: as or white men, and then we want to wonder 261 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: why our criminal justice system looks the way that it does. 262 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: So there definitely is that part where we need more 263 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: education on what all these roles do and why we 264 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: need to be voting for them and how they impact 265 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: our daily lives. And then the work that I do 266 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: in my professional career, I have literally seen women lose 267 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: by one vote. That is not a joke. Literally have 268 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: run campaigns for two years, three years just to lose 269 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: by one vote. I have seen local government. I have 270 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: seen women lose by a coin toss because in several 271 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: states the law is that if an election ends up 272 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: in a tie, you do a coin toss. So imagine 273 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: hustling for so long to lose your race because you 274 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: didn't choose heads or tails. So when we're talking about voting, 275 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: it really doesn't matter. If we want to even look 276 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: at the sixteen election, Hillary Clinton did get more votes 277 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: than Donald Trump, she just didn't win the electoral college. 278 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: So imagine what would have happened if in those three 279 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: states that Trump won Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, more people would 280 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: have turned out, what would this country look like today? 281 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: Your vote is sacred. Your vote is important, And I 282 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: especially say for people of color and millennials, if our 283 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: votes weren't so important, they wouldn't be working so hard 284 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: to suppress them because they know what happens when we 285 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: actually get out there, turn out and vote, because we 286 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: changed the trajectory of this country. You know what I've 287 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: noticed though, especially in places like New York, a lot 288 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: of my kids that are graduated from college, Um, you know, 289 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: they said things to me like, listen, New York is 290 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: a blue state, so it's gonna be blue. So for 291 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: me voting, it really doesn't matter because it's a blue 292 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: state that you know he's gonna win. Um, the Democrat 293 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: always wins New York, so I don't really have to vote, which, 294 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: you know, it's hard to argue with that. But my 295 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: mom has always been about local government. Like you said, 296 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: my mom calls me and my wife for every vote. 297 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: She works for the DP, so she knows all the 298 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: councilmen and she she's like, hey, you guys got to 299 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: get out and vote. Yeah, we get that group group 300 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: text and the group chat like we get and then 301 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: I'm sometimes I'm like, I didn't even know there was 302 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: an election going on. Who are we vote before? Now? 303 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: You know, it's exhausting to try to keep on top 304 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: of these things, but if it's important to you. And 305 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: Kadina and I talked about when it really became important 306 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: to us when we moved back and we were looking 307 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: for um early childhood education for our kids, and we 308 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: realized how important these owning laws were. You know, who, 309 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: who's your alderman, who makes sure that the right funding 310 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: goes to the right public school in your areas. These 311 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: things made us realize, you know, we should have been 312 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: out here paying attention to who we got in place 313 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: in these local governments because these are the ones who 314 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: are making decisions about where the resources go to our children, 315 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: which so absolutely because at the end of the day, 316 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: we focus so much on the presidential election cycle and 317 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: who is our commander in chief, when in reality it 318 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: is the state and local elected officials that have the 319 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: most impact on our everyday lives. I was privileged to 320 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: work in the Obama administration at the Department of Labor, 321 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: and I was out traveling with Secretary of Salice and 322 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: this one woman came up to me and she just 323 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: started going off on me about this pothole in her 324 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: street and why hasn't President Obama fixed her pothole? And 325 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: she donated to him and she voted for him, and 326 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 1: she still has this pothole. And I'm like, ma'am, the 327 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: president doesn't fix potholes. You have to be going to 328 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: your state and local elected officials. And she goes, oh, 329 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 1: I don't pay attention to them, and that is exactly 330 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: why you still have that pothole. It's extremely important that 331 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 1: we know who these people are. And those are the 332 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: elections where people really aren't engaged. They broadcast city council 333 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: meetings and if you look at the audience, they're really empty. 334 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: No one's, no one's there, no one's paying attention. And 335 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 1: then these people continue to get reelected and re elected 336 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: and nothing changes. And until people really start to pay 337 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: attention and see the ways in which they're elected officials 338 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: are failing them, you gotta vote them out if you 339 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 1: want to see that change. But if you're like it 340 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: doesn't matter, then it won't matter. And for me, I 341 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: really don't see blue states, red states, purple states. There's 342 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: always the opportunity to make change. And just because the 343 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: state is one way, particularly a blue state, that doesn't 344 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 1: mean that all the cities are blue. That doesn't mean 345 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: every area is blue. There's always the chance to make 346 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: things better. So the biggest thing is if you really 347 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: want to make direct change immediately, the best way to 348 00:18:56,119 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 1: go about it is with local government. That that especially daily, 349 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 1: everyday life. And I think it's important that we say 350 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: that for people our listeners, because everyone feels like if 351 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 1: they don't have a choice and who is the president, 352 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: that life is going to be terrible. You know, we 353 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: we both thought that at times. No, it's true. Think 354 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: about the first time Devot and I actually went to 355 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 1: a local city council meeting in our area when we're 356 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: in Crown Heights, Brooklyn, and de Val and I were 357 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: there and we were probably the only exception of maybe 358 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: like two or three other well, we were the only 359 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:34,719 Speaker 1: millennials of color, were over sixty, right, right, But then 360 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: the majority was Hasidic Jewish and they were their demanding things. 361 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 1: And I understood at that point why they get so 362 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: much priority in Brooklyn because they are there, they're demanding 363 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: things to get done. And if you know, if these 364 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 1: are constituents, you're making sure, Well, these are the people 365 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: who are going to vote me back in, I'm going 366 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 1: to make sure thing things have done this way. We 367 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: talked about zoning laws for school Why were there so 368 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: little funds towards public schools in our area? That's because 369 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: the parents of those public schools were not at these 370 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: meetings exactly, and we didn't see it as something that 371 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 1: we had to even be involved with until time came 372 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: for our son to be zoned, you know, into a 373 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 1: particular area, and we're like, wait a second, Wait a second, 374 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: wait a second, what is the school rating? Another story, 375 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: Mayor de Blasio. When we were looking at voting, right, 376 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 1: you know what made us vote for de Blasio? He 377 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:27,360 Speaker 1: talked about universal pre K three for everyone in the city. Yes, 378 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: and for me that was enough because we had a 379 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: child and we were thinking about having more children, and 380 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: it was like, we're looking at pre K prices and 381 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: for private school pre K prices it was three thousand 382 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: dollars a month, and I'm saying to myself, like, who 383 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: would they, right mind, can afford to send to hit 384 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: child to school for thirty dollars at four right? What 385 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 1: are you going to my child, what are you gonna 386 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: teach my child? And guarantee or four that was gonna 387 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: make it worth sending this childow school for three thousand 388 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 1: dollars a month. And I never paid as much attention 389 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: to the mayoral race until then, and also with stopping 390 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: for us because we were living in Michigan at the time, 391 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: and then we moved back to New York and I 392 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: had been stopped and fristed a ton of times getting 393 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 1: out of my car, and I was like this, this 394 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: is ridiculous. Like I come, I come inside almost in 395 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: tears and be like what's the matter. And I'm like, man, 396 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: these cops just you know, they took my bag, they 397 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: looked at my bag, they pulled my shirt up, and 398 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 1: then just sent me inside like okay, you're good. And 399 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm a hard working American. They're just just 400 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: walking into my apartment building. Why do I have to 401 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: go through this two or three times a week a month? 402 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: And then I would get pulled over all the time, 403 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:33,360 Speaker 1: and then I was like, you know what we need 404 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: to change. And at the time, um, who was the president, 405 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: I mean, who was the mayor at the time. Before 406 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: the Blasio Julian Bloomberg blog. All am, I'm pulling up 407 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: all of it. Under the Bloomberg administration, we did very 408 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: well economically, That's why he was able to get a 409 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: third term when you're only supposed to be allowed two terms. 410 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,479 Speaker 1: But there was some other social issues that were just 411 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: killing us as a people, killing me, particularly that I 412 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 1: was just ready for a change. No, absolutely so, So 413 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: let me ask you. I know that The Black Girl 414 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: Guide to Politics has taught so many about so many things, 415 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: But in your experience, what have you learned about just 416 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 1: politics or about people in this process? And and um, 417 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: you know, how how is it affecting the impact of 418 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 1: women and color in politics. It has definitely taught me 419 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: a lot. And I think it's even though I know this, 420 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:31,719 Speaker 1: just how even though are different, we have such different experiences, 421 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: there's still that common denominator of just being a woman 422 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 1: of color and politics. And I think it really hit 423 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: me when we did a podcast episode with Kaya Morris, 424 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: who is a former state representative from Vermont, and she 425 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: actually ended up resigning her seats because of all the 426 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: racist threats that her and her family were getting, and 427 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: she just says she couldn't take it. Anymore. And in 428 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: that conversation, we just talked about the struggle of being 429 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: women of color in this space, because the reality is, 430 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: I wake up every day and I do work in 431 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: a system that was not built for me. Politics was 432 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: built for white land owning men. And here I am 433 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: showing that I have disrupted the system. But not only 434 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 1: is my presence showing that I've disrupted this system, but 435 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: I'm also here to tell you I'm going to disrupt 436 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: it some more by getting more women and women of 437 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 1: color involved. So I'm challenging power and when you actually 438 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: see those reactions, it definitely does something to you. And 439 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: with Kaya's episode, just the number of emails I got 440 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 1: text messages from friends and everyone was just telling me 441 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: how they could relate so much to what she said 442 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: about the struggle. So it's really taught me that even 443 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: though we continue to make headway, there's still so much 444 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 1: that we have to do to advance as women of 445 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: color on politics. And I'm just really glad that people 446 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: see the b g G as an outlet where they 447 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: can hear from other women and also share the things 448 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: that we talk about and express their thoughts, their problems, 449 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: their solutions as well. So let me ask a quick question, 450 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: what what do we do to move forward and build 451 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: off of this? Because you know, everyone says, we know 452 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 1: what the problem is, we know what we have to do. 453 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 1: How can someone educate themselves on politics? How can someone 454 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: feel empowered as a voter, whether it is just a 455 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,360 Speaker 1: local election or the presidential election. A lot of people 456 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: don't know how to gain information. I've had people ask me, 457 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: should I watch CNN, O Fox? Like which one be 458 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: lying more? You know, like these are some of the 459 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: things that people ask me, and I want to be 460 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: able to tell them. Okay, if you really want to 461 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: educate yourself, this is how you go about doing it. 462 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 1: So that is why I created the resources page on 463 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 1: the Brown Girl's Guide website, and it has organizations that 464 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: people can go to and look at what they are 465 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: all about and find out for themselves. Just sitting on 466 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: home watching CNN, Fox, MSNBC that is not the answer. 467 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: That is not the activism that we need. We need 468 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: to be educating ourselves. So if you just do want 469 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 1: to stay an activists, you need to find an organization 470 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: that lets you channel those issues that you're passionate about. 471 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: If you realize you want to be more than an 472 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: activist and a campaign staffer. Start researching organizations where you 473 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: can put your talents to use. There are finance people 474 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: on campaigns, so if you like money and want to 475 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 1: raise money, you can do that. There's operations people if 476 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 1: you like that sort of thing. Press people. Campaigns really 477 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 1: are a business, so there's an opportunity to get involved 478 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 1: there as well. And if you think you want to, 479 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: I don't want to cut you off, but can you 480 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 1: please explain that campaigns or business. And the reason why 481 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: I say that is because people don't understand how much 482 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 1: money gets involved in politics and how important it is 483 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 1: to raise funds and how that can can pretty much 484 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: to create a narrative for you to become the next 485 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: local elected official. How is a campaign of the business? 486 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: So a campaign is a business because at the end 487 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 1: of the day, you have your candidate, so they are 488 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 1: the business and they have to run this campaign. We 489 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 1: all know that campaigns need money. That is reality. But 490 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 1: I also tell people is that we live in an 491 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: age because of the twenty four hour news cycle where 492 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: people think that they have to raise millions of dollars 493 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: to run for office. That's not true. There are races 494 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: that only cost ten thousand dollars fifty dollars a hundred 495 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 1: thousand dollars, you can absolutely raise that. When it comes 496 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 1: to women and people color, the majority of our money 497 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: comes from small dollar donor donations, which is all extremely possible. 498 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 1: There are so many women people color that do get 499 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: outspent by non white opponents. But guess what, they're still 500 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 1: able to win because what they aren't able to do 501 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 1: and fundraiseing, they still make up and shoe leather and 502 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,479 Speaker 1: knocking doors and having a good message, which is a 503 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,959 Speaker 1: part of selling your business. The campaign. You need to 504 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: have someone out there who is your press secretary helping 505 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: you get your information out, someone helping you with your 506 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: policy for how this is going to benefit the community. Again, 507 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: you have your operations people who are making sure that 508 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: your business is running well. At the end of the day, 509 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: there are all of these elements to campaigns, and there 510 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: are opportunities for people to get involved as the active 511 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 1: is volunteer or as a campaign staff. So so this 512 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 1: money that they're raising is pretty much going to what 513 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 1: it's just going to, like advertising and where's that money going, Oh, 514 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 1: is to running the campaign. So that can be if 515 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: they are doing TV ads, if they are doing radio ads, 516 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: money goes to making sure that there's water for canvas 517 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: ers so if it's a hot day, they're not getting dehydrated. 518 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: More staff salaries. Pretty much every the marketing, the Facebook, 519 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: as the Twitter, as the Instagram adds this is what 520 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: all the money is used for. And to put the 521 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: money into perspective, I tell people all the time that 522 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: if they do a fundraiser with a twenty five ticket 523 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 1: and they have twenty five people come, the money that 524 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: they make from that fundraiser, that's actually enough money to 525 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 1: buy campaign literature, to put on doors or to send out. 526 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 1: So it really doesn't have to be a tens and 527 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of dollars to run this effective business 528 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 1: aka the campaign gotcha. So this is I think this 529 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: is important for people to understand too. If a campaign 530 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: is a business that you know, they always say that 531 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: they get jaded by politics. Everyone is about the money. 532 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: But if you understand of that that if this is 533 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: a business, you can't run a campaign for free, then 534 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: you would be a little bit more educated about how 535 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: you deal with politicians and how they get your vote 536 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: or how you how you can help the politician that 537 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: you want to win. Win, even if you could help 538 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: them do some fund of my when your own, would 539 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: that be fight to to say? Oh absolutely. One of 540 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: the things that I love is when people find a 541 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: candidate where like, that is my candidate, that is my girl, 542 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: that is my person. These campaigns can create individual fundraising 543 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: links for you and you can actually go out to 544 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: your friends, your family and raise money for these candidates. 545 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: I see it all the time where people say it's 546 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: my birthday, I'm raising money for Stacy. I used to 547 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: see that all the time. That's during Stacy. Ways, no, 548 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,959 Speaker 1: that's this is actually great because so many millennials are 549 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: independent thinkers and they said, you know, I don't want 550 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: to just vote, I want to help. How could I help? Now, 551 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: it's true they may not be able to go out 552 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: there and march do different things, but if you want 553 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: to help, if you could help raise funds for the 554 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: politician you think best represents your interests. Now you know 555 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: that there are ways as a millennial or agency, it 556 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: becomes more than just a hashtag. You know, it's easy 557 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: to just be posting stuff and like, oh, repost this 558 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: hashtag you know such and such for president. But now 559 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: at this time, it's like great, we can actually put 560 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: our fingers in our hands in it and really support. 561 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: So then you know, this is just like a hypothetical question. 562 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: Say I wanted to run for office, you know you 563 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: wanted to run for office woman of color? Where would 564 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: I start? Where would a woman of colors start, or 565 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: anyone really start if they wanted to run for office? 566 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: Is there kind of like a step by step that 567 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: there is or a protocol that one has to go through, 568 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: and you got to the office exactly. So that's the 569 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: first thing. The first thing is to know why you 570 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: are running and what you want to accomplish, and then 571 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: find the office that will allow you to get those 572 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: things done so you are effective for your community. And 573 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: then I always recommend getting training. In my professional career 574 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: on the national political director for Emerge America, and we 575 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: focus on recruiting and training women to run for office, 576 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: and we do it in depth Signature seventy our training 577 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: program where we demystify the process of running for office. 578 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: Other organizations to do this, such as the Collective Pack 579 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: where they focus on black candidates and black campaign staff. 580 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: There are wonderful organizations run by my friends Quentin and 581 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: Stephanie Brown James absolutely love them. They saw the need 582 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: for this, so they're doing it. You also have other 583 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: organizations such as Run for Something, Running Start, which is 584 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: for young women, Emily's List, Vote Run Lead, She Should Run. 585 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: Just amazing. Groups are out there to provide this support 586 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: so you don't have to do it alone. And they 587 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: all have different structures. So if you aren't able to 588 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: do an emerge because your race is starting now you 589 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: don't think you'll have the time, there's all these other 590 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: organizations that you can go to to get some training 591 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: and figure out, Okay, how do I run this really 592 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: great campaign? Very nice. It kind of reminds me of 593 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 1: my pageant days. It's like, oh, I want to run 594 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: for Miss America. So I had to raise money. Then 595 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: I had a team around me that trained me, you know, 596 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: in order to win. It's kind of like parallels. I 597 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: don't want to hold you up. Oh, I'm loving this conversation, 598 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: but yeah, when when you run for office, you want 599 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: to be prepared. But we really find that is especially 600 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: true for women. We want to know, okay, exactly what 601 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: are all the things that I need to do and 602 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: what we do at emerges. I tell them We can 603 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: definitely make you competent about what it takes to run 604 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: for office. We can make you confident when you're out 605 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: there on the campaign trail. And because we provide this 606 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: network of support, we also make it less lonely because 607 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: you have all these people who are uplifting you and 608 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: rooting for you to succeed. So before we let you go, 609 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: I have one one final question. Can you just give 610 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: us some insight on what we can We have a 611 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: year now before the next presidential election. Yeah, what could 612 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: we do to educate on picking the correct candidate? Yeah? 613 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: The first thing is just to make sure all your 614 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: voter registration is up to date. I have to start 615 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: with that because we have all of these crazy and 616 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: a laws going on, We're most likely going to enter 617 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: another presidential election cycle without the full protection of the 618 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: Voting Rights Act, which is very scary. So the biggest 619 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: thing you have to do is make sure that you're 620 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: all set to vote. The second thing is think about 621 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: your life. What is going to impact you the most 622 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: over the next five years, and then those are going 623 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: to be your issues that you're going to want to 624 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: concentrate on when it's time to vote. And three you've 625 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: got to start paying attention now we are already in 626 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: there's so much going on, so there's gonna be another 627 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: Democratic debate coming up. Make sure that you watch that. 628 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: One of the things that we have on the b 629 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 1: g G Events page is we list all of the 630 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: different presidential forums that happen, and those happen across the country, 631 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: So look for a presidential forum to attend as well, 632 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: so you can get up close and personal to these candidates. 633 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: You just don't have to see them on your TV. 634 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 1: And make sure that you're paying attention to the things 635 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 1: that are coming through in your local news, especially when 636 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: these candidates visit CNN, MSNBC, Fox. They're always going to 637 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,439 Speaker 1: be there, but you want to hone in on what's 638 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,800 Speaker 1: going to happen locally, and that has to be in 639 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: your local papers and we just aren't reading them anymore. 640 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: And if you start to focus on those three things, 641 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,800 Speaker 1: you will be ready to vote come November. Thank you 642 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: so much. We have voter registration, we have your life 643 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,320 Speaker 1: impacts for the next five years. And also watch the debates. 644 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 1: And while I'm asking by watching debates, you mentioned goot V, 645 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: can you explain to us real briefly with gt IF 646 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,320 Speaker 1: our listeners who may not know. Yes, So when I 647 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 1: said goot V, that is get out the vote, absolutely, 648 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 1: and before we wrap you and um, you know, thank 649 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 1: you for being here just really quick. Do you have 650 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 1: maybe like two or three important issues for the presidential 651 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: candidates that are coming up, Anything that they're focusing on 652 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: you think will be the hot topics that they're going 653 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: to try to kind of sell two Americans. What are 654 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,320 Speaker 1: going to be those those key things we're going to 655 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,320 Speaker 1: look at. Definitely look at criminal justice reform. That is 656 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: a big one for both Democrats and Republicans. There is 657 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: the twenty Bipartisan Justice Forum coming up that's going to 658 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 1: focus on criminal justice reform, and I believe that one's 659 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: going to be streamed so you can check out their website. 660 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 1: I would also look at gun violence prevention that's going 661 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: to be a big one as well. And then for 662 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 1: the third one, I'd probably have to go with a 663 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:37,399 Speaker 1: tie between climate change and health care. So I think 664 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: those are big ones. We can see all of the 665 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 1: political parties focusing on. It's insane you just saying those 666 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,879 Speaker 1: three topics. I literally got chills because I can think 667 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: about how it directly impacts, if not me, someone I 668 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: know in the future. It's just it's just insane. It's insane. 669 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 1: I hear you. I tell people I don't have kids, 670 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 1: but I have a niece and five net hues. And 671 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: for me, when I'm doing my five years, my five 672 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,320 Speaker 1: years includes their life too for sure. What are the 673 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: things that they're going to need as they grow up 674 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: in this country? Ashanti, you are a wealth of knowledge 675 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: with the topic that I particularly. I feel like I've 676 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: been a little quiet this session because I'm really trying 677 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 1: to take this in and I think it's so important 678 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: for people to really hear from an expert in someone 679 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: who is devoted to this cause and to this topic 680 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,800 Speaker 1: to really give us information. So thank you for taking 681 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,320 Speaker 1: time out of your super busy schedule to come in 682 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,399 Speaker 1: and chat with us for a little bit. And maybe 683 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 1: we can have you back on like next year or 684 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: something and the next next season or two when the 685 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 1: actual elections are happening, so we can see what's happened 686 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 1: and what's developed from now till then. Yeah, I would 687 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: love that. This has been so much fun. Thank you 688 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 1: for having me. It's definitely our pleasure. And keep doing 689 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 1: what you're doing, man, we definitely need you, absolutely and 690 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 1: right before you go, make sure you tell everyone where 691 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,879 Speaker 1: they can find you, where they can find the Brown 692 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: Girls Guide. Give us all of your handle information so 693 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: they can not follow. Awesome. Yes, so the Brown Girls 694 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 1: Guide to Politics. Our website is the b G Guide 695 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 1: dot com and you can find us on Twitter, Facebook 696 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: and Instagram at the b G Guide and all of 697 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: my social handles is just my name a Shanty Golar. Wonderful. 698 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, have a great rest of the 699 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,839 Speaker 1: day and enjoy the rest of your week. Thanks so much. 700 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 1: This for the record there it is a win for 701 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 1: the ages. Tiger Woods is one of our most inspiring 702 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 1: sports icons. In his story, it comes with many chapters. 703 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 1: I am deeply sorry for my irresponsible and selfish behavior, 704 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 1: but here it is the return to glory. This is 705 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 1: All American a new series from Stitcher hosted by me 706 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 1: Jordan Bell. You realized Tiger doesn't know who he is 707 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 1: in the history of golf, no question in my mind. 708 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 1: And this season, with the help of journalist Albert Chen, 709 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 1: we're asking what if the story of Tiger Woods that 710 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:18,359 Speaker 1: the media has been telling, what if it's been completely 711 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 1: wrong all American Tiger is out. Now listen and stitch 712 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 1: your Apple podcasts or your favorite podcast app. Alright, guys, 713 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 1: we're back, and now it's time from my favorite part 714 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,320 Speaker 1: of the show. As you all know one, Cadine's favorite 715 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: because she is nosy. Alright, they got it now, I 716 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 1: think you'd drilled that into their head enough. We got 717 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: listener letters. So let's start with question number one. I 718 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: got to read that, what advice do you have about 719 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 1: transitioning into adulthood? Don't do it? Great? That done? And 720 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,280 Speaker 1: if you could give your twenty five year itself some advice, 721 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 1: what would you tell yourself to provide some back on information. 722 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 1: I'm twenty five and I've just started a new chapter 723 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,479 Speaker 1: in my life where I've moved into a different area, 724 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 1: started a new position, and I'm starting my master's program 725 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 1: in the fall. I'm watching my peers start to do 726 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 1: serious things. I get married and have children, start full 727 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 1: time jobs after graduating from college, and things of that nature. 728 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,360 Speaker 1: It's a bit overwhelming, and lately I find myself reminiscing 729 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 1: on the way things used to be when I was 730 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 1: in undergrad and was surrounded by my friends and in 731 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 1: college environment. Girl, that's the first thing that's well, I 732 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 1: should I say girl, I don't know if it's a 733 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 1: girl or a guy, so excuse me for that. But 734 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 1: the first thing is the first thing that I would 735 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 1: tell you as that piece of advice, stop comparing your 736 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 1: life and your path and your road to everyone else 737 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 1: around you. That is a sure, sure shot, sure fire 738 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 1: away to then start feeling overwhelmed and feeling a bit 739 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 1: depressed and feeling as if you aren't achieving things at 740 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 1: the rate other people are achieving things, and that just 741 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 1: may not be your walk. Also, people be lying on Instagram, 742 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 1: a people will be lying on social media. Everybody's life 743 00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: looks amazing on social media. It's a reel of highlight, folks. 744 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 1: It looks amazing. So when you look at other people's 745 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 1: life on social media, don't get all excited and say, Wow, 746 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,800 Speaker 1: they're doing everything perfect and I'm here stuck. Majority the 747 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,879 Speaker 1: people you see on social media are stuck as well. 748 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 1: They just post what they want to post so they 749 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 1: can curate a narrative for you to see. But if 750 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 1: you do have friends who are media like that, yeah, 751 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:19,959 Speaker 1: But if you do have friends who are like close 752 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 1: friends who are getting married and having children and starting 753 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,800 Speaker 1: their full time jobs, that just maybe what is in 754 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 1: their lineup for them at that moment. You said that 755 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 1: you're now starting fresh and new chapter. You've moved into 756 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 1: a different area, starting a new position, So it sounds 757 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 1: like you're in the building phase of things. The building 758 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 1: phase of things require sometimes, you know, having to have 759 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 1: that tunnel vision where you're kind of drowning everything else 760 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 1: out and you're focusing on that. But it's also that 761 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,400 Speaker 1: that it's the building of it. So it's gonna be 762 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 1: a slow process of trying to get into your routine 763 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 1: and you know, making sure that you're doing everything to 764 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,399 Speaker 1: then advance and whether it's your career or your life 765 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 1: and whatever avenue you're taking it. But I just say, 766 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,279 Speaker 1: trying not to compare yourself to other people. It was 767 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 1: hard to valance. I did that in the very beginning 768 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 1: to when we were around. That's when we got engaged 769 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,880 Speaker 1: because everyone around us was getting engaged and it seemed 770 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,880 Speaker 1: like the right thing to do. And you know, you 771 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 1: have that list of things that you're trying to do 772 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,440 Speaker 1: in your life where it's like, you know, I got 773 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 1: to start this job, and then I have to meet someone, 774 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 1: and I have to date and then have the wee date, 775 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 1: we get engaged, and then we get married and we 776 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,960 Speaker 1: have children, and things don't necessarily pan out that way. 777 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 1: So don't be too hard on yourself. It seems like 778 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 1: you do have somewhat of a good situation happening right 779 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 1: now because you are, you know, starting a new master's 780 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 1: program and a new position. So just keep building, you know, 781 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 1: put your nose down and just keep building and work 782 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,279 Speaker 1: at it. And I think you'll be all right. But 783 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 1: you did ask specifically, what if ice I would give 784 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:39,799 Speaker 1: my twenty five year old self and I would tell 785 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 1: my twenty five year els of this. Remember that your 786 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 1: life will not be defined by what you do in 787 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 1: your twenties period. It doesn't matter how much money you 788 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 1: make or lose, if you get married, have kids. Don't 789 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 1: you have so much life to live. When you start 790 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 1: to think that you have to do everything between the 791 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 1: ages of twenty and twenty nine, that's when you're going 792 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 1: to become overwhelmed and then you're gonna lose it. That's 793 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 1: the biggest way to disappointment. Setting high expectations for yourself. 794 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,439 Speaker 1: So remember, you got your whole life to do these things. 795 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:09,839 Speaker 1: Get them done. They'll get done in your own time. Yeah, 796 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,399 Speaker 1: I set their expectations and dream big. Definitely dream big, 797 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 1: but you know, just know, it takes time to work 798 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 1: at it. All right. I hope that helps you out 799 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 1: onto a question number two. All Right, my man and 800 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 1: I live an hour apart, but for almost two years 801 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 1: we've always made the effort to see each other. It 802 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,560 Speaker 1: may not be every day, but we appreciate each other's 803 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,840 Speaker 1: company more than you know. We recently got married, and 804 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 1: although I'm madly in love with my husband, I also 805 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,880 Speaker 1: love my own space. I purposely don't push the conversation 806 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 1: of moving in together. I dream of having our beautiful 807 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,840 Speaker 1: place to call home, but getting there seems to be 808 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 1: the hard part for me. How do I move forward 809 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 1: without the anxiety of moving in together. We've had conversations 810 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 1: about it, and I have no problem admitting that I'm 811 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 1: the hold up. So you're recently married and still living apart. 812 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 1: That's interesting because I would think once you're married, you 813 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,919 Speaker 1: would just be wanting to then move together or listen 814 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,400 Speaker 1: to the same space. But I've learned not to judge 815 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 1: people on how they live. If you got married to 816 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,839 Speaker 1: live apart, and it works for y'all. Then it works 817 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,279 Speaker 1: for y'all, because I've recently said to Cadee that I 818 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,279 Speaker 1: feel like we worked best when we're not together all 819 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 1: the time. You know, sometimes moving in together can be 820 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,040 Speaker 1: the worst thing for a relationship because you don't know 821 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 1: how to give each other some space. And I think, 822 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,239 Speaker 1: like with us, Deval and I has been shoots just 823 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 1: past seventeen years together. So sometimes alone time is the 824 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 1: best time because you can really just kind of unwind 825 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,759 Speaker 1: and be yourself and you don't have that that need 826 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 1: to feel like you have to always quote unquote entertain somebody. UM. 827 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,279 Speaker 1: And we're okay with moments like that, Deval and I, UM, 828 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:52,800 Speaker 1: but why even get married if you're not comfortable sharing 829 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,400 Speaker 1: personal space like that? Seems to be like a very 830 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,759 Speaker 1: personal decision to make. We're gonna be together, but we're 831 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,200 Speaker 1: gonna be together away, you know what I'm saying. And like, 832 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:04,319 Speaker 1: I don't understand. Yeah, I don't understand that either that, yeah, 833 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,359 Speaker 1: we recently got married and all that on madly enough 834 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 1: of my husband. I also love my own space. I 835 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,239 Speaker 1: don't know, sis. And then it also she's also saying 836 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 1: at the same time too, that she knows she's the 837 00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,759 Speaker 1: hold up and he's had conversations about it, so you know, 838 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 1: he wants he wants to move with her. She don't 839 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 1: want to move in, but she wanted to get married. 840 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 1: I'm wondering why she wanted to get married. She don't 841 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,440 Speaker 1: want to live with somebody, right, not saying that you 842 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 1: have to live with somebody to be married, because clearly 843 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 1: you don't, especially two, You can do whatever you want 844 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,880 Speaker 1: to do. I just don't. I don't understand. If you 845 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,120 Speaker 1: value your personal space that much, then that means being 846 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,759 Speaker 1: by yourself is more valuable than being with someone. Why 847 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 1: would you choose to spend your life building with someone? Yeah, 848 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:44,719 Speaker 1: and that would be rough. I would feel like, you know, 849 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 1: for a husband or for a spouse, you know whatever, 850 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 1: if putting myself in his shoes, feeling like we're married 851 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,960 Speaker 1: and now I can't have you like with me building 852 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 1: a home together? Like what what? What's the timeline for that? 853 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 1: And I'm wondering what the conversations have sounded like, like 854 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,239 Speaker 1: what's his perspective on it? You know? So I would 855 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 1: love to get a little more information about this question, 856 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,239 Speaker 1: but I'm left kind of feeling like, you know, what 857 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,719 Speaker 1: are we doing here? I'm at I'm a little confused. 858 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 1: I don't know why you get married if you don't 859 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,880 Speaker 1: want to live together. I know there are other valuable 860 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,879 Speaker 1: access to being married. There's probably ways to also still 861 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,879 Speaker 1: have your space while being married or living in the home, 862 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 1: you know, like sometimes a guy has their man cave 863 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,439 Speaker 1: or maybe you might want her, you know, a little 864 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 1: space where it's yours or time for yourself. I can 865 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 1: get that I want a husband. That's kind of controlling. 866 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,440 Speaker 1: I want a husband, but I want to be by myself. 867 00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,359 Speaker 1: I want you around when I want you around, right, 868 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 1: that's not that I don't know, since I don't know, 869 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,239 Speaker 1: that's interesting, But yeah, I'm curious to know what those 870 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 1: conversations sound like and how do I move forward without 871 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,480 Speaker 1: the anxiety of moving in together. I mean, you may 872 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,399 Speaker 1: have to also give it a try, you know. I'm 873 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:58,200 Speaker 1: an advocate for trying living with someone before marriage, just 874 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,680 Speaker 1: to kind of see how it goes. But not everyone 875 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 1: is UM don't want to be married. She probably wanted 876 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,880 Speaker 1: to have a nice wedding, got a nice wedding. He 877 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:07,719 Speaker 1: probably was thinking, you know what, once I get married. 878 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,839 Speaker 1: She let me. She was like, nah, bro, I'm still 879 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,560 Speaker 1: going he send us to follow up to that, since 880 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 1: let's let us know what going on, we might have 881 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,279 Speaker 1: to do a part two to that one. Absolutely, and 882 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:19,799 Speaker 1: if you want to be featured as one of our 883 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,160 Speaker 1: listener letters, email us at dead ass Advice at gmail 884 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,840 Speaker 1: dot com. That's D E A D A S S 885 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,399 Speaker 1: A D V I C E at gmail dot com. 886 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,759 Speaker 1: All Right, moment of truth time. Moment of truth time. 887 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 1: So we talked to politics, doing the right thing. Being 888 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:41,759 Speaker 1: well versed in your political affiliations. What's your takeaway from today? Baby? 889 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 1: This is my biggest takeaway. You know, Um, I think 890 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,239 Speaker 1: we've passed the time of where it's like, if you're 891 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,640 Speaker 1: just black, you're Democrat. We have a lot more independent 892 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:54,240 Speaker 1: black thinkers out here in the world, right, So choosing 893 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,560 Speaker 1: to register us independent may work for people. And then 894 00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:01,160 Speaker 1: I've I've learned a lot in the last presidential election 895 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,520 Speaker 1: about people saying earn my vote, Like you gotta earn 896 00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,480 Speaker 1: my vote. Don't just think that because I'm a Democrat, 897 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,399 Speaker 1: I'm automatically going to get all these people to vote 898 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,520 Speaker 1: for me. We need to make people earn our votes, 899 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,040 Speaker 1: and we need to do the correct due diligence to 900 00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 1: give the people to vote that we believe in. Rather 901 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,120 Speaker 1: than just saying, hey, I'm gonna go with this political party, 902 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,600 Speaker 1: whether it's Republican, whether it's Democrat, you really have to 903 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,719 Speaker 1: educate yourself and educate yourself and what's important for you first, 904 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,520 Speaker 1: not just what's important for everybody. Because these things that 905 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,480 Speaker 1: you do, these people you vote for, are gonna affect 906 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,880 Speaker 1: you daily, especially in local elections. So listen, be independent, 907 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,560 Speaker 1: being an independent thinker. Don't just follow the crowd. Educate 908 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 1: yourself and vote for the person that can help change 909 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,600 Speaker 1: your life. Yep. I think that's a that's a great 910 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:47,759 Speaker 1: takeaway from today. Um in that also to piggyback and 911 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,680 Speaker 1: off of that, I think that my biggest takeaway is 912 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,880 Speaker 1: that politics is more than just a hashtag. It's more 913 00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,560 Speaker 1: than sitting behind your phone and you know, hashtag and 914 00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,800 Speaker 1: whatever movement is happening at the time. It's really a 915 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,880 Speaker 1: out trying to get your feet wet in it and 916 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,399 Speaker 1: being a private be active. So, like a Shanty said, 917 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,360 Speaker 1: if it meant that you know you're really um, you know, 918 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,600 Speaker 1: gung ho about this particular candidate, it's like going to 919 00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 1: the base camp and seeing how you can help with 920 00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,319 Speaker 1: that business side of it. Does it mean that you're 921 00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,040 Speaker 1: going to be out there helping, you know, to pass 922 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,160 Speaker 1: out pamphlets. Are you going to be helping to collect 923 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,759 Speaker 1: money to contribute to this this this candidate's movement, like 924 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,319 Speaker 1: really just putting your hands and your feet in and saying, 925 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:27,800 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm going to be a part of this. 926 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,680 Speaker 1: And then in that in that turn, you can also 927 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,560 Speaker 1: then we have have more um you'll be more educated, 928 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,920 Speaker 1: you know, ultimately a bile assounce to just being more 929 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:37,759 Speaker 1: educated about what your choice is going to be. You 930 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,800 Speaker 1: said something just not resonated with me that I completely 931 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 1: forgot about. But politics is business. 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