1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast am on 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio at. 3 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 2: George Norri back with Anthony Hamilton, a former professor of 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 2: communication at Calalno University in North Vancouver, Canada. He is 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 2: recognized internationally as an authority on the art and science 6 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 2: of mental time travel. One of his books, Mind, Time 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 2: and Power describes the results of his thirty years of 8 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 2: research into how our thoughts and feelings shape our lives. 9 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 2: This work began after not a body experience at the 10 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 2: age of ten. He saw himself at the age of 11 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 2: thirty two and spent years twenty years as a matter 12 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 2: of fact, searching for an answer to the question how 13 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: is it possible to receive information from the future. He 14 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 2: eventually realized that all of us receive information from the 15 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 2: future constantly, but most of us are simply unaware of it. 16 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: Anthony Hamilton back on Coast to Coast, Anthony, how are you. 17 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 3: I'm great, George, how are you doing? 18 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: Good? Looking for this and what great work you do, 19 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: my friend? Great work? 20 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 3: Well, thanks so much. Thanks to you. You really helped 21 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 3: to spread the word of what I'm doing. A huge 22 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 3: number of people that come to me have heard me 23 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,559 Speaker 3: on your show, So I have to thank you for 24 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 3: helping me get the message out. 25 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 2: How do we know about receiving information from the future, 26 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:23,639 Speaker 2: How does that happen? 27 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 3: Well, where can I begin? 28 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: You know. 29 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 3: What happened to me, of course, was I had a 30 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 3: dream when I was a kid, and I saw myself 31 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 3: at the age of thirty two, and as I got 32 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 3: into my late twenties, more and more of that dream 33 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 3: started to come true. So I eventually put together, after 34 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 3: twenty years of research, a theory which is widely known 35 00:01:54,680 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 3: as quantum consciousness. It's a way of describing the way 36 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 3: the mind works using the principles of quantum physics, which 37 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 3: is a departure from the way we normally think of 38 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 3: how the mind works, which is based on Newtonian physics. Well, 39 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 3: of course, in Newtonian physics, you can't know anything about 40 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 3: the future because the future hasn't happened yet, and they 41 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 3: assume people that, you know, all of us have grown 42 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 3: up with this Newtonian model that says our presence is 43 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 3: created by the past. Well, Einstein came along over one 44 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 3: hundred years ago now and said, you know, according to 45 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 3: his mathematical equations of relativity and quantum mechanics, it's just 46 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 3: as possible that the future influences the present as much 47 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 3: or more than the past does. So this gave me 48 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 3: some insight into understanding this dream that I had, because 49 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 3: what I was doing at the time was I had 50 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 3: taken some training in visualization, law of attraction, and something 51 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 3: called silver mind control. I remember that, so I became 52 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 3: pretty good at using my imagination and visualizing my goals, right, 53 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 3: this is what I was using it for, helping me 54 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 3: make my goals come true. And during one of these 55 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 3: sessions where I was just you know, visualizing, I decided 56 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 3: to go back and try and remember more about my past. 57 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 3: Because my past was more or less a blank to me. 58 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 3: You know, I couldn't remember too much about my childhood. 59 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:46,279 Speaker 3: So I'd been used to doing these twenty minute visualization 60 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 3: exercises every day. I'd been doing them for years, so 61 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 3: I thought, well, I'll just spend some time exploring my past. 62 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 3: And during one of these visualization exercises, I remembered having 63 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 3: this dream at the age of ten. And here I 64 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 3: was now in my early thirties and realizing that a 65 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 3: lot of the stuff that was happening in my life 66 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 3: now was happening that I had seen in this dream, Right, 67 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 3: So I thought, well, wait a second. Now, nobody argues 68 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 3: with the fact that here I am, in my early 69 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 3: thirties remembering something that happened when I was ten. Everybody says, 70 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 3: that's perfectly normal. That's what we call memory. 71 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 2: Right. 72 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 3: But what if memory is not a recording? What if 73 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 3: it's a connection? Right? Because one of the things that 74 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 3: I had read from Einstein studying some of his work 75 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 3: was he said, you know, there's no time and there's 76 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 3: no space. There's space time. So the laws of time 77 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 3: and the laws of space mirror each other. What's true 78 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 3: for space is true for time, Right, So I thought, well, 79 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 3: one thing I know about space is information passes through it. 80 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 3: Like right now, I'm connected to you, and you're connected 81 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 3: to me via this connection. We can call it the internet, 82 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 3: we can call it a phone call, you know, whatever 83 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 3: you want to call it. But the information's going from 84 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 3: you to me and back and forth. Right, So I thought, well, 85 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 3: what if memory is a connection. I'm connected now in 86 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 3: this meditation exercise, I'm connected to my ten year old self. 87 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 3: That answered my question as to how it's possible to 88 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 3: get information from the future at the age of thirty 89 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 3: two in my case, when you're ten, because if it's 90 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 3: a connection, it's kind of like a phone call through time, 91 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 3: which according to what I understood from Einstein's work, it's 92 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 3: perfectly reasonable. And that also answered my other question because 93 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 3: at the time I was teaching people, I was leading 94 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 3: seminars and helping people achieve their goals by using their 95 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 3: visualization skills. Close your eyes, imagine yourself in the future, 96 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 3: see yourself achieving this goal, you know. And so I thought, well, 97 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 3: if memory is really a connection, then goal setting must 98 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 3: be a connection too. This explains why people that set 99 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 3: goals are successful, because they tap into the future and 100 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 3: they use that future as a source of information. So 101 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 3: this was in nineteen eighty that I figured this out. 102 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 3: So I've been thinking about this now and teaching people 103 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 3: these principles for you know, the last forty five years, 104 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 3: and what I've come to believe is that literally every 105 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 3: thought we have is a connection. It's a connection into 106 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 3: something in the past or something in the future. And 107 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 3: of course, according to quantum physics, there's a whole spectrum 108 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 3: of pasts, and there's a whole spectrum of possible futures. 109 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 3: Some of which happened and we experience them. So that's 110 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 3: our timeline through the physical world. You know, I can 111 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 3: remember specific times in the past where things happened to 112 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 3: me or with me, but I can remember all kinds 113 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 3: of things that might have happened but didn't. And when 114 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:36,559 Speaker 3: I look at the future, I can imagine doing something 115 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 3: to more Like I have an appointment tomorrow morning downtown. 116 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 3: I can imagine myself driving downtown and going to disappointment. Well, 117 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 3: unless something interferes with that, that's going to happen. That's 118 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 3: going to be a physical event. I'm going to get 119 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 3: in my car, drive downtown, have this meeting with these people. 120 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 2: But do you know the outcome of the meeting. 121 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 3: I don't do I because it's a crab shoot. You know, 122 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 3: there's so many possibilities that could happen tomorrow. People could 123 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 3: show up, the meeting could be canceled. I could be laid. 124 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 3: My car could break down, you know. So there's no 125 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 3: guarantee that any particular event that we plan is going 126 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 3: to work out. But generally speaking, they do work out. 127 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 3: You know, we go to work every day, we do 128 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 3: our jobs. You do your show every night. You know, 129 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 3: we go to the store by our groceries. So these 130 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 3: kind of events, we get information about them all the time, 131 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 3: but we don't pay any attention to it because we think, oh, 132 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 3: it's just daydreaming, it's just my imagination. It doesn't have 133 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 3: any power. But the thing is, when you focus on 134 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 3: something that's important to you, i e. A goal, right, 135 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 3: whether it's finding a new job, buying a new car, 136 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 3: writing another book, starting a business. When something is important 137 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 3: enough to you and you focus on it like you're 138 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 3: obsessed with it, you form a connection between yourself in 139 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 3: the present and that future goal and it starts to 140 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 3: talk to you. You start to get ideas, you start 141 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 3: to get hunches, you start to get intuitions about how 142 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 3: you can take steps to achieve that goal. So these, 143 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 3: to me is information from the future. But we don't 144 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 3: normally think of it that way, because we don't think 145 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 3: of a goal as a connection, right. We don't think 146 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 3: of thinking as a connection. We think of it kind 147 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 3: of like the air. It's just there, you know, like 148 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 3: we're fish in the sea of thought, and we don't 149 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 3: pay any attention to the thoughts, but they're all around us. 150 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 2: If we're aware of it, Anthony, can we tap into 151 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 2: it on a regular basis. 152 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely, absolutely. Like I say, if you are a 153 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 3: goal set er, if you are a person who sets goals, 154 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 3: I know you do. You have your schedule for the 155 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 3: next few weeks or a few months, or a few years, 156 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 3: perhaps laid out in advance. You know where you're going 157 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 3: to be speaking, you know who some of your guests 158 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 3: are going to be on the show. So those future 159 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 3: events which are only possible, they're not physical. They're just 160 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 3: outside in the future, in the realm of you know, 161 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 3: the possible future, as I would call it. But if 162 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 3: things work out, people show up, those events more or 163 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 3: less unfold as you expect. But at any particular show, 164 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 3: you don't know who's going to show up. You don't 165 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 3: know how many people are going to be there. You know, 166 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 3: you don't know until the last minute, even if the 167 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 3: show is going to go ahead. I mean, you've probably had, 168 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 3: like all of us, you had shows canceled or things interfere. 169 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 2: Right, I've been lucky a little bit there. 170 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 3: I'm sure you. I'm sure you are. And of course 171 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 3: all of us are lucky too, you know, to the 172 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 3: degree that we get good at at planning our lives. 173 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 3: You know, more or less. What we expect is what 174 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 3: we experience. But if we change our expectations, if we 175 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 3: if we set a new goal, then we start to 176 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,079 Speaker 3: experience a different level of ideas coming into our minds. 177 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 2: How can we utilize the time of the future to 178 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 2: benefit us. 179 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 3: Well, the best thing that I've found is to start 180 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 3: to set some goals. Start to decide what it is 181 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 3: you want. In all the work that I do, I 182 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 3: give people worksheets or a workbook, and one of the 183 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 3: first things that I ask people is what do you want? 184 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 3: And the funny thing is, you know, most people don't know. 185 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 3: Most people can't answer that question. If you ask people, 186 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 3: you know, what would you do if you suddenly won 187 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,719 Speaker 3: the lottery? You know they have two or three ideas. Well, 188 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 3: I'd pay off my mortgage, I'd buy a new car, 189 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,599 Speaker 3: I take a trip, But they you know, that's but 190 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 3: it right. They don't have any more ideas. But a 191 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 3: person who is artistic or creative sees themselves as a 192 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 3: creative person, they can choose the future that they want, 193 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 3: and they can with practice, visualize it, work towards it, 194 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 3: plan it out, take steps towards it, and they can 195 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 3: just step by step move into the future that contains 196 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 3: more and more of what they want. 197 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 2: Does it work that way for most people? 198 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 3: I think it works that way for pretty well everybody, 199 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 3: you know. But the sad thing that I've found is 200 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 3: that most people, probably ninety five percent of people, don't 201 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 3: really set goals. A lot of people think they have goals, 202 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 3: and they don't. They really have wishes. You know, well, 203 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 3: I'd like this to happen. I'd like that to happen. 204 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 3: But the people that enroll in university because they want 205 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 3: to get an architect degree and they spend, you know, 206 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 3: five or six years or set in years learning what 207 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 3: it takes to become an architect. At the end of 208 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 3: that program, they can design a building and they can 209 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 3: make that building a physical reality that people can move 210 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 3: into and live in. But it starts as an idea 211 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 3: in the architect's mind. And all of us really are 212 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 3: the architects of our life. But the problem is most 213 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 3: people don't think about it that way. They don't plan 214 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 3: it out. They think that life happens to them. So consequently, 215 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 3: they're like a cork in a stream. They just move 216 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 3: around according to where the current takes them. But if 217 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 3: you are a sailor, like I am. You have a 218 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 3: sail boat. You have sails, you have a rudder. You 219 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 3: don't really care which way the current is pushing you 220 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 3: or which way the wind is trying to push you. 221 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 3: Because you can change the setting of your sails and 222 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 3: you can move where you want to go. 223 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 2: You compensate for that, Yeah, you can compensate. 224 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 3: You can use the that's trying to blow you to 225 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 3: the north, you can use it to set your sales 226 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 3: and move yourself to the south. 227 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 2: What does consciousness, Anthony mean to you? 228 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 3: Well, consciousness, you know, that's a tricky question and people 229 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 3: have been arguing about it for thousands of years. Literally, 230 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 3: to me, what it seems to be is more or 231 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 3: less what people would think of as maybe my soul 232 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 3: or my essence, you know. Like I've talked before when 233 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 3: I was on your show previously about the dream that 234 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 3: I had when I was young, and the fact that 235 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 3: I was going to be married to an Asian woman, 236 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 3: that I was going to be writing, I was going 237 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 3: to be traveling and teaching, and I was going to 238 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 3: become a university professor. All of those things happened. A 239 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 3: lot of them happened. By the craziest set of coincidences. 240 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 3: You know, a lot of things that I tried to 241 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 3: achieve didn't work out, but other things happened by accident. Right, 242 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 3: the way I became a university professor was just a fluke. 243 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: But did you. 244 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 2: Make those things happen? 245 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 3: Though some of them I did make happen. You know, obviously, 246 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 3: if you want to get a university degree, and you 247 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 3: go to university and you study for three or four years, 248 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 3: whatever it takes, you go to classes every day, you 249 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 3: do your homework, you know, then you're following a plan 250 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 3: that's laid out for you by the university, and you 251 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 3: get your degree, you get your bachelor's degree, you get 252 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 3: your architecture degree, you get your accounting degree, you know, 253 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 3: whatever it might be. So there's a lot of things 254 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 3: that we can work towards and we can make them 255 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 3: happen just by our own planning and our willpower and 256 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 3: our focus. 257 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 2: And I was asking you what you thought consciousness means. 258 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 3: To you, and that's right, So yeah, exactly right. Thanks. 259 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 3: So what I was going to say was, now, I'm 260 00:15:55,840 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 3: seventy seven. I just turned seventy seven last last month birthday. Thanks, 261 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 3: so my becoming a university professor, my getting my university degrees, 262 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 3: my getting married, my writing books, my running, my training business. 263 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 3: All of those things exist in my mind now as 264 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 3: points in what I call inner space time, right, and 265 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 3: I call them memories. But in a sense, they were 266 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 3: all there before when I was ten years old. But 267 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 3: then they were fantasies, they were dreams, they were goals, objectives, 268 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So those events they existed 269 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 3: as possibilities, but they didn't unfold. A lot of them 270 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 3: unfolded through my planning, other ones unfolded by accident, and 271 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 3: some of them unfolded in very strange ways. But now 272 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 3: they all still exist in my consciousness. But I call 273 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 3: them memories now they're events in my past. 274 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 2: Were the events that were going to occur? Or did 275 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 2: you make them happen? 276 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 3: Well, it's a combination of both. Right. It's like if 277 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 3: you decide, for example, you're going to buy a car. 278 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 3: You know some of your listeners may want to get 279 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 3: a new car. So what do you do. You go 280 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 3: to talk to people, You look in the newspaper, you 281 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 3: watch you know, TV commercials, whatever. You decide the kind 282 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 3: of car you want to buy, then you go out 283 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 3: look look for it. You talk to people, You go 284 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,479 Speaker 3: to different dealerships and eventually you make a choice and 285 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 3: you buy the car that you wanted. So there's a 286 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 3: perfect example of a person who decides, Okay, I want 287 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 3: to buy such and such a car and they end 288 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 3: up with that car. Simple, right, But there's no way 289 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 3: that they could have predicted in advance they're going to 290 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 3: buy this car with this then number you understand what 291 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 3: I mean. It's like there's a thousand cars that could 292 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 3: have bought, but they end up with one. So it's 293 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 3: at a matter of making choices each each moment of 294 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 3: the day, each each step of the way. 295 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at 296 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 1: one a m. Eastern and go to Coast to coastam 297 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: dot com for more