1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:01,280 Speaker 1: And you're here. 2 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 2: Thanks for choosing the iHeartRadio and Coast to Ghost Day 3 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 2: and Paranormal Podcast Network. Your quest for podcasts of the paranormal, supernatural, 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 2: and the unexplained ends here. They invite you to enjoy 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: all our shows we have on this network, and right now, 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 2: let's start with Chase of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 3: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 8 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 3: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 9 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 3: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 10 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 3: to Coast, AM employees of Premiere Networks, or their sponsors 11 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 3: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 12 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 3: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. Hi. 13 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 3: I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been 14 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 3: on a journey to prove the existence of life after death. 15 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 3: Each episode will discuss the reasons we now know that 16 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 3: our loved ones have survived physical death and so will we. 17 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 3: Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. Have you ever felt 18 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 3: like your life was just turned upside down only to 19 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 3: discover a deeper meaning beyond the chaos. Our guest today 20 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 3: is Stephen LaRussa who shares his powerful journey through a 21 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 3: spiritual awakening sparked by a crisis in his life, followed 22 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,559 Speaker 3: by what he calls a dark night of the soul, 23 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 3: and then he had a near death experience. Today we'll 24 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 3: hear some important lessons he learned about letting go, trusting 25 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 3: the universe, and even something he calls as a spiritual spanking. 26 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 3: But before that, I want to share something personal with you, 27 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 3: an experience that I had. Do you remember back on 28 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 3: episodes two thirty one and two thirty two, I introduced 29 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 3: you to something called IADC grief therapy. What does IADC 30 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 3: stand for, Well, it's induced after death communication and if 31 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 3: you remember, on episode two thirty one, we talked to 32 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 3: psychologist doctor Tom Nemi, who said he was out walking 33 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 3: his dog one day listening to a podcast. That podcast 34 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 3: was me. He heard my interview with doctor Alan Botkin, 35 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 3: who first coined the term IADC therapy, how I movements 36 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 3: can transport you into reconnecting with your loved ones and 37 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 3: decrease grief. When he heard my podcast, he thought, well, 38 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 3: this sounds too good to be true, but as a psychologist, 39 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 3: he felt it was his moral responsibility that if there 40 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 3: is something to help people grieving, then he needs to 41 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 3: learn it. Not only did he learn it, as he 42 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 3: explained in episode two thirty one, he became a practitioner. 43 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 3: He created a study at the University of Adelaide in 44 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 3: Our Australia, a clinical investigation with many clients to see 45 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 3: what the results would be, and all people experienced a 46 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 3: dramatic decrease in their grief, so much so that they 47 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 3: couldn't believe that this was even available and they wished 48 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 3: they had found out about it sooner. But seventy five 49 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 3: percent of the people had some kind of experience with 50 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 3: their deceased loved one, either feeling their presence, hearing their voice, 51 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 3: feeling their touch, feeling of love, something like that. Well, 52 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 3: I wanted to experience this firsthand because if I'm going 53 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 3: to share about it, I need to know what really happens. 54 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 3: It's been about fifteen years since my dad passed. I 55 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 3: didn't know if I would be able to dig up 56 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 3: the feelings of sadness and grief or of too much 57 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 3: time had passed. And I had the Induced after Death 58 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 3: Communication grief therapy with doctor Tom Nemi. He was in Australia. 59 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 3: I was in my home in Rhode Island, USA. The 60 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 3: sessions are two ninety minute sessions on back to back days. 61 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 3: I was scared, to be honest, but I knew that 62 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 3: the only way to the other side of this would 63 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 3: be going straight through it. Friends, you really have to 64 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 3: dig up and experience grief in order for this to work. 65 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 3: The process involves emdr which are ive movements, and in 66 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,559 Speaker 3: this case, doctor Tom sent me a link to watch 67 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 3: a screen and there was a little blue ball that 68 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 3: was going left and right and left and right. I 69 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 3: started with telling him some of the things about my 70 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 3: dad's death to bring that grief up. Not only did 71 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 3: I have the passing of my dad, but I wasn't 72 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 3: able to see my nieces and nephew because my relationships 73 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 3: suffered with my siblings so much so that they cast 74 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 3: me out of their life. So I went through the 75 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 3: grief of dad passing, the loss of my siblings, the 76 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 3: loss of seeing their kids, and I tell you, fifteen 77 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 3: years o go I hit rock bottom. Thankfully I did 78 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 3: because it brought me to you today. But I'd never 79 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 3: want anybody to go through that pain. So on zoom, 80 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 3: Doctor Tom had me relive these experiences. And even though 81 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 3: I was a little worried that I couldn't bring up 82 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 3: the grief, well I did. And so with each piece 83 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:23,119 Speaker 3: of grief I discussed it with the Doctor Tom. I 84 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 3: closed my eyes, I really felt it. He had me 85 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 3: open my eyes and watch this blue ball go back 86 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 3: and forth, back and forth to dislodge the memory of 87 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 3: what happened from the intense pain. Now emdr these eye 88 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 3: movements is the gold standard therapy for people with PTSD 89 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 3: post traumatic stress. While we sleep, we go through something 90 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 3: called rem sleep, you know, rapid eye movements. So over 91 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 3: the course of the first ninety minute session, doctor Tom 92 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 3: calls it like playing the game whack a mole. Every 93 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 3: time a memory in grief pops up, we'd go right 94 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 3: after it, me feeling it fully and then doing the 95 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 3: eye movements. And what was really interesting is somehow it works. 96 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 3: I was able to remember these situations and things that 97 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 3: caused me great pain, but the pain wasn't there. So 98 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 3: that was session number one, lots of that and lots 99 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 3: of tears by yours truly. Session number two brought a 100 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 3: lot more of it, going back, revisiting things, making sure 101 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 3: I was cleared from the grief, but then finding out 102 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 3: is there anything else that was not discussed? And sure 103 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 3: enough there was, and the tears came. It was only 104 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 3: a matter of time before I couldn't find anything else 105 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 3: I was sad about. And then next thing you know, 106 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 3: doctor Tom asked me to tell him about my dad 107 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 3: and some of the shared memories we had, and that 108 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 3: followed with the eye movements again, and in time he said, 109 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 3: if you could say something to your dad, what would 110 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 3: it be? And for me, it was an apology that, 111 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 3: even though I know it wasn't my fault, the relationships 112 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 3: with my siblings came apart and that was the one 113 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 3: thing my dad did not want. And then he said, 114 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 3: if your dad were to say something to you, what 115 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 3: would it be? And it was a similar message how 116 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 3: Dad didn't want me to take this on it wasn't 117 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 3: my fault. We did more eye movements in correlation with 118 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 3: happy memories with my dad, and then something really cool happened. 119 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 3: It was as if I was looking through my dad's mind, 120 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 3: picking out memories of all the little things I had 121 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 3: done for him, making him an ash tray even though 122 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 3: he didn't smoke, making him a pencil holder all those 123 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 3: times that he witnessed me as a dad for his 124 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 3: young daughter, and I actually felt the love for myself 125 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 3: like I was looking through his eyes. 126 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: That was really cool. 127 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 3: And then an unexpected thing happened. It was almost as 128 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 3: if I got a slide show of the deceased people 129 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 3: in my life that just flashed before my eyes. People 130 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 3: I didn't expect, and there were even people that I 131 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 3: didn't know who they were. In truth, if I were 132 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 3: too invent this slideshow, it would take a heck of 133 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 3: a lot of time, not split second. And by the 134 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 3: end of the second ninety minute session I had with 135 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 3: doctor Tom, I actually had the feeling that I had 136 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 3: a whole bunch of my deceased loved ones, who are 137 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 3: of course young and happy and healthy and alive, like 138 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 3: they were standing right behind me, that they're with me 139 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 3: in life, cheering me on. It was a very very 140 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 3: special session. Friends, it is the real thing. Go back 141 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 3: listen to episode two thirty one and two thirty two, 142 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 3: and if this is something you're interested in, or if 143 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 3: you are a therapist, please do what doctor Tom Nimi did. 144 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 3: Find this out to be truth for yourself and offer 145 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 3: this as grief therapy for your patients. To find out more, 146 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 3: simply go to Healing Grief with IADC dot com. All right, 147 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 3: let's dive right into our episode with our very special guest, 148 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 3: who is a certified Master Spiritual coach here about his experiences, 149 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:11,239 Speaker 3: including a near death experience. His name is Stephen LaRussa 150 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 3: from Spiritual Alignment sl dot com. 151 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 1: I have basically the typical Christian background as far as 152 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: spiritual or religious beliefs, growing up in a Christian home, 153 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: going to church, studying the Bible, grew up in northern California. 154 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 1: I have a wife, we've been married twenty five years, 155 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: my son who's twenty one, and I spent most of 156 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: my life at you know, nine to five working manufacturing jobs. 157 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: You know, I worked for GM and Toyota, amongst various 158 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: other manufacturing jobs and positions. I was a QC supervisor lead, 159 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: so that type of thing. So I spent you know, 160 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: a lot of my life in the nine to five, wife, son, 161 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: pretty typical life and whatnot. Well that's pretty typical up 162 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: till a couple of years ago, and then everything changed 163 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: basically for me, and I think for a lot of 164 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 1: people with a spiritual awakening, is usually not all the time. 165 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 1: But usually brought on by crisis, severe circumstances that don't 166 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: really alter our thinking, and we can get us thinking 167 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: about what it's all about. So for me, I went 168 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: through a stage where I was working at First American Title. 169 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: I had lost my job due to downsizing. My wife 170 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: and I were not getting along, fighting, We were literally 171 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: on the verge of a divorce. We were going through 172 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: our problems. My son was going through his problems, his 173 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: growing pains. I had invested in some commercial property in 174 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: the Cleveland, Ohio area and moved out there for a 175 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: while when I was separating from my wife. That was 176 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 1: spiraling out control, the cost trying to find an honest contractor, 177 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: trying to find an honest property management, a lot of 178 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: things going on with that, losing a lot of money, 179 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: basically losing my life savings in that investment. All of 180 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: those things contributed and began my spiritual awakening. Everything broke down, 181 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: and that's how it usually happens. It's a breakdown of 182 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 1: everything that you're doing to rebuild you back up. So 183 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: at the time, obviously I didn't know what was going on. 184 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: I started to get depressed, sad, and it always usually 185 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: begins with the questions, why am I here? Why am 186 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: I doing this? Why am I killing myself? Trying to 187 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: constantly obtain more and more and more to fulfill this 188 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: void of happiness, and it's never enough because we had 189 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 1: caught in this circle of wanting, getting, and then wanting again. 190 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 1: You want something, a house, a job, a person, or 191 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: a car, whatever it may be, you get it, and 192 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: then that thrill, just like a drug, wears off and 193 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: you're looking for something else to fill the void of happiness. 194 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: And I felt myself doing that. I was like, God, 195 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: there's got to be more to this. It's got to 196 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: be more to living seventy eighty ninety years and chasing 197 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: the world's ideal of success and killing myself to obtain 198 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: this ideal of what success is through society's eyes. And 199 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: it just created a whole breakdown, and that's what sparked 200 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: my spiritual awakening. Basically, my spiritual awakening to me was 201 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: very rough. I went through the period of what we 202 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: call the dark night of the soul, the extreme struggle 203 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: between the ego self and your higher self for control. 204 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: We a lot of times make that worse because we 205 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: don't want to let go of the ego and of 206 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: our life when the universe, when God is trying to 207 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: pull you away for that and pull you out of that, 208 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: so we create a lot more of our suffering by 209 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 1: trying to hold on. That's what I did. I tried 210 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: to ignore it. I try to do the same jobs. 211 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: I tried to hang around the same people. But it 212 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 1: didn't resonate with me, and a lot of us know what. 213 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: It doesn't resonate, but we're so comfortable with it we 214 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: would rather keep doing something that doesn't resonate. It doesn't 215 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: work because of fear of stepping away from that, because 216 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: it's like where do I go? What do I do? 217 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: If this is all I know? And that keeps us 218 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 1: trapped in that and we stay suffering. It's amazing how 219 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: people would rather suffer and something they're comfortable with than 220 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: step out and trust God in the universe to open 221 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: up doors for it. When God in the universe is 222 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,839 Speaker 1: trying to close doors, that's what it is, and we 223 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 1: resist it. I attribute it to when somebody's close the 224 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: door and they stick their foot in the door, they 225 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: won't let it close. That's what we do a lot 226 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: of times. So for me, it was going through a 227 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: severe depression Let's take. 228 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 3: A quick break and we'll be right back with more 229 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 3: Stephen's Dark Knight of the Soul followed by his near 230 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 3: death experience. You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on 231 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 3: the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 232 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 3: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain 233 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 3: and we're with Stephen Larusa telling us about how his 234 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 3: ego caused so much trouble which led to his Dark 235 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,719 Speaker 3: Night of the Soul and ultimately a spiritual transformation. 236 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: Let's continue, we stay suffering. It's amazing how people would 237 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: rather suffer in something they're comfortable with than step out 238 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: and trust God in the universe to open up doors 239 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: for him. When God in the universe is trying to 240 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: close doors, that's what it is, and we resist them. 241 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: I attribute it to when somebody's closed the door and 242 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: they stick their foot in the door, they won't let 243 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 1: it close. That's what we do a lot of times. 244 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,359 Speaker 1: So for me, it was going through a severe depression, 245 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: a severe questioning. You know, I went through every emotion, anger, sadness, 246 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: confusion because I had no idea what was going on. 247 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: If this is not something you're aware of beforehand, or 248 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: studied or looked into. You may think you're going crazy, 249 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: you may think you're having a middle breakdown. I thought 250 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: I was having a midlife crisis. I had no idea 251 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: what it was. So for me, I didn't know as 252 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: I know now to let go and give into the 253 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: universe and trust the universe, I thought it. So I 254 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: tried to hang on to those things, and by doing it, 255 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: I prolonged it and I made it worse. 256 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 3: I can totally get it. And I was just talking 257 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 3: about that yesterday, about how we try to hang on 258 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 3: to things even if they're not in our best interest. 259 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 3: You know, we're afraid of the unknown. So at some 260 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 3: point you got some droplets of wisdom and it changed. 261 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 3: I know you think you've experienced in your death experience. 262 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 3: I don't know if that's part of it or after. 263 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 3: But what started presenting itself that you started letting that 264 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 3: ego south quiet down and being open to something bigger. 265 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: Well, for me, it was just through personal research. It 266 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: was instilled in me when I was going through this, 267 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: that I started to have a search for knowledge, a 268 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: search for truth. You know what you've been doing, what 269 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: you've been told, the programming, the mental, social constructs, religious dogma, 270 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: A lot of that is not the truth. So you 271 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: start realizing, Okay, there's something more to this. There's an 272 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: inkling in me that there's something that I need to learn, 273 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: that I need to find. For me, it was just 274 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: a search for the truth, for the meaning of it all. 275 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: So for me, through research, through stumbling upon videos, articles, 276 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: which translated into me buying books, which translated into me 277 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: taking classes to get certified in a lot of different 278 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: spiritual topics and whatnot. It kind of starts with that 279 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: questioning and then that little research that opens the door, 280 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: and then I realized, okay, wait a minute, here's what 281 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: I'm going through. Oh I do feel this. This is 282 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: called a spiritual awakening. The universe put everything out there 283 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: for me to be able to see it. That's what 284 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: the universe will do in synchronistics, guide you to the 285 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: correct videos, the correct books, the correct people to answer 286 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: your questions. So that's what happened with me. Once I 287 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: went through that, everything changed. Certain relationships are going to 288 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: fall off. Things you used to do, music, used to 289 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: listen to, everything will change. A lot of people ask me, 290 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: how do I know if I'm going through a spiritual awakening. 291 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: The main thing that happens during spiritual wakning is a 292 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: change of yourself. You're breaking out of that ego self 293 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: that was never really you, that worldly self with all 294 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: those ideals and logic that was programmed into your higher self, 295 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: and you're not going to be able to do those 296 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: same things, hang with those same people. Those experiences aren't 297 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: going to resonate with you anymore, and it's going to 298 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: be a shift. So for me, I didn't have a mentor, 299 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: I didn't have anybody to tell me like most people don't. 300 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: It was just investigation that just snowballed into where I 301 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: am today. 302 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 3: That's good news that we can have all the tools 303 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 3: within us to explore and thank goodness for YouTube and books. 304 00:16:58,560 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: And yeah it's not and all that. 305 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 3: Yes, definitely, I know your coach these days and you 306 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 3: really empower people. Did that come out of this? 307 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: Well, it's funny because it didn't. And like a lot 308 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: of others, after I went through the spiritual awakening, the 309 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: Dark Knight Soul, I came out of it. So I 310 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: started studying quantum physics, reading books, you know, Dolores Cannon, 311 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: Brian Wise, Michael Newton. Reading all these books and obtaining 312 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: all this information. Then I wanted to take it to 313 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: the next level. So I began taking classes and getting 314 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: certified and getting more and more information. Now there was 315 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: a point where it's like, Okay, I was comfortable doing that. 316 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: That was fine. I was on a roll. But there 317 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: was a point where God told me, okay, all right, Steve, 318 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 1: you're reading that's great. Now it's time for you to 319 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: put yourself out there. Time for you to get your website. 320 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 1: It's time for you to market yourself. It's time for 321 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 1: you to put yourself out there so the people that 322 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: need you can find you. That's when I stopped. That's 323 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: when I started stalling and starting reverting back to my 324 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: old self out of fear. Am I good enough? Will 325 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: I be judge? What are people going to think? Do 326 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: I know enough? Who am I to do this? There's 327 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: going to be too much work. That egos started to 328 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: creep back in in an effort to stop the calling, 329 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: because that's what the darkness does. So now I stalled. 330 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 1: So I started kind of reverting back into some old ways, 331 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: old things I used to do, not a lot, but 332 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: started backtracking because I was scared to step into that. 333 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: I stalled for a while and ran from the calling. 334 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 1: That's what led to and brought on the NDE was 335 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: my stalling and reverting from my calling and running from it. 336 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 3: Stephen, I had the best afterlife information in the world, 337 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 3: and it took ten years before I verbalized it to 338 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 3: the public. I'm not good enough. Who's going to listen 339 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 3: to me. I'm not smart enough to write a book. 340 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 3: It was all there, and it wasn't until the death 341 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 3: of my dad and discovering grief that brought me to 342 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 3: my deepest, darkest depths. And then it was finding really 343 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 3: good things about grief and moving through that opened me 344 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 3: up to where I am today. But I completely get 345 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 3: that ego voice that just shuts us down. There's a 346 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 3: lot of people listening to you that can relate good 347 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 3: Terrier's story right now, tell us about what happens physically 348 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 3: that brought on the near death experience, and if you 349 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 3: could share that experience with us. 350 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 1: Yes, my near death experience, from what I understand, is 351 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 1: kind of rare because with most indies spark a spiritual awakening. 352 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: Right I had my spiritual wakening and dark Knight of 353 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: the soul before the NDE. So basically I started running 354 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: from the calling. This happened October ninth of twenty twenty four, 355 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: and it's funny people ask me, how can you talk 356 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 1: about it so soon? Most people hold on to their 357 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: NDEs for years, trying to grapple with them and deal 358 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: with them and understand them, and wondering about people thinking 359 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: they're crazy and they don't want to come out with it. Well, 360 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: for me, it was different because you got to understand, 361 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 1: I had went through a spiritual waking, a dark knight 362 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: of the soul, so I had kind of been prepped, 363 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I went through that experience first. 364 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 1: When I went through my NDE, it was a lot 365 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: easier for me to deal with because I wasn't just 366 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: fresh off the boat. I had experienced that. So my 367 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: wife was in the Sacramento, California area, is some friends. 368 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 1: She was coming back to Carson City, Nevada, which is 369 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: where we reside. This is how the universe works. Wasn't planning, 370 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: wasn't thinking. It just popped in my head. Let's go 371 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: to Lake Tahoe, Let's go sit by the lake, let's meditate, 372 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: let's kind of rejuvenate spiritually and let's kind of recharge. 373 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 1: So okay, we go up to the lake. We're driving up. 374 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 1: She comes back. We hop in the car together, go 375 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: up there. There was a strange feeling in the air. 376 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 1: There was something weird going on, and I can't put 377 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: my finger on it. I wouldn't classify as a good 378 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: or bad. Just were strange. So for the sake of 379 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: time on the skip some details and get into the 380 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 1: meat and potatoes of it. I was laying on the 381 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: bed now, I want to make this clear. I was 382 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: totally awake. I didn't wake up from a sleep. It 383 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: wasn't lucid dreaming. The TV was on, we were having 384 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: a conversation. My wife was standing by the bed. We 385 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 1: were talking. I was laying on my back. All of 386 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 1: a sudden, these pains start on my left side, sharp 387 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: shooting pain down my neck, going into my chest, going 388 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 1: down my left arm, tingling, sharp shooting pain and throbbing 389 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: all at the same time. Now, I've never had a 390 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: heart attack before, but I've read about the symptoms. You know, 391 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: you kind of know left side the pain, So it 392 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: sounds like everything I had known of. So I didn't 393 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: want to say anything at first because I didn't want 394 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: to alarm my wife, and it started getting worse and starting 395 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: to get severe. My arms started trembling, shaking. So I 396 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: look over at my wife and I say, Wanda, I 397 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: think I'm dying. I'm having a heart attack. Now at 398 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: this time, what do you expect your spouse or anybody 399 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: to do? Grab the phone? Call nine one one. Right. 400 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: Here's the interesting part. She didn't do that. She'd later 401 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 1: told me that when I said that to her, she 402 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 1: heard a voice to tell her to lay down next 403 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: to me and get in a position. There was a 404 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: com that came over. She couldn't understand it. I couldn't 405 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 1: understand it. My thoughts, why don't you call nine one one? 406 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 1: So she lays down next to me. Our arms are 407 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: bent at the elbow, four arms are up like this. 408 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 1: We're holding each other's hand, and we're just laying on 409 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: our back. So now at this point, I feel my 410 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 1: soul leave my body. I feel it grab we start 411 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 1: to leave. I'm in darkness that transitions into space out 412 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: amongst the stars, and I'm slowly traveling through darkness now 413 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: into space, and in the distance, far distance, I'm seeing 414 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: a white light which I'm drawn to So because of 415 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: everything I've gone through with my spiritual awakening, all the 416 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: research I've done, I wasn't surprised by you this. I 417 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: already knew about this. So I'm like, oh, oh my gosh, 418 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: but it's still a shock. I don't care how much 419 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: you know when you go through it. I don't care 420 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: what you've read. Going through it, I said, oh my God, 421 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: I'm dying. I could feel my soul leading. So at 422 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 1: this point, I start praying to God, please give me 423 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: another chance. Now I heard God's voice three times audibly 424 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: in my mind during this. The first time he said 425 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: to me, you've wasted enough time. That really shook me, 426 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: and talk about feeling bad, because I knew exactly what 427 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: he was talking about. Had all these spiritual experiences, not 428 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: to mention the dark Knight of the soul of spiritual awakening, 429 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: but also a lot of synchronicities happened that showed me 430 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 1: I was going in the right direction. And I started 431 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 1: to stall, and I knew what he meant, so I 432 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: start praying, I'm sorry forgive me. I know my calling. 433 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: Of course, when this is going on, you have no 434 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: concept of time. I have no idea how long this 435 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: went on. So now the interesting part is my wife 436 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 1: said she started actually feeling my pain. She could feel 437 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: on her left side. She said, I doubted what's severe 438 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: as yours was, but I could feel your pain. So 439 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: at this point we start communicating telepathy. She said, I 440 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: can hear all your prayers. Even though all my prayers 441 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: were in my mind, she can hear them all. So 442 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: as I'm praying, nothing is helping, nothing's working, I'm steadily fading. 443 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: So at this point I'm like, okay, you know what, 444 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: I'm going to give up. I'm going to give into 445 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: it because nothing I'm saying to God is working. Maybe 446 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,719 Speaker 1: it's just my time. I need to stop fighting it. 447 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 1: As soon as I said that in my head, nothing 448 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: was said out loud. As soon as I said that, 449 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: my wife said to me telepathley, Steve, fight, fight, fight, 450 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: don't give up. She heard me. She knew that I 451 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 1: was about to give into it, so that gave me 452 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: a second win. So I start praying again, God, please 453 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: don't do this. I understand what I'm supposed to be doing. 454 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: I know that I was chosen to do this, and 455 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,199 Speaker 1: not even just chosen, but I agreed to do this 456 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: before my incr this is part of my plan. At 457 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: that point, the second thing God said to me was 458 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: all this information and knowledge I've given you, and this 459 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: is what you're doing with it, which really hurt because 460 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: I wasn't doing anything with it. I was wasting it, 461 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: I was running, I wasn't fulfilling my calling. So at 462 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 1: that point, you know, more prayers called for Jesus everything. 463 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 1: I never saw Jesus or anything like that, but I 464 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: was doing everything I can. Now. It's funny because people 465 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: have asked me, were you scared to die? I wasn't 466 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: scared to die, because I know where we're going when 467 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 1: we die, and we really don't die. It's just a transition, 468 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 1: it's not a depth. So I wasn't concerned about leaving 469 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: and not fulfilling my mission, not about what's going to 470 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: happen after death, because there is nothing to worry about 471 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 1: after death, because death is just a transition. It's like 472 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: you're waking up to your true self and you just 473 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 1: move on from there. So I wasn't scared of death. 474 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: I didn't want to leave without fulfilling my mission because 475 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 1: I know I would probably have to come back and 476 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: do it again. Like I said, that mission is still 477 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: a part of my sole purpose at that time, I'm 478 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 1: praying again. So I'm getting tired now right on the 479 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 1: urge of the white life, and I'm just guessing here 480 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: I'm going out number. I'm literally ninety percent gone. I'm 481 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: right on the doorstep. I'm brought to the brink of it. 482 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: So at the last ditch effort, I don't even know 483 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 1: why I said this. It wasn't even me. I said, 484 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 1: wan to help me. Now, I will say this. After 485 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 1: we talked about I asked my wife. She said she 486 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: heard the voice of God one time and God said 487 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: to her, and why should I leave you here? 488 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 3: We'll find out when we get back. You're listening to 489 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 3: Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to 490 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 3: Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of 491 00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 3: the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain, and you're hearing Steven Russa's 492 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 3: near death experience. And at this point, he's lying on 493 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 3: a bed, feels like he's having a heart attack, is 494 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 3: out of his body, moving to the stars. He's experiencing 495 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 3: telepathic communication with his wife. Let's continue. 496 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 1: So at the last ditch effort, I don't even know 497 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: why I said this. It wasn't even me. I said, 498 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: wan to help me. Now, I will say this. After 499 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: we talked about it, I asked my wife. She said 500 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 1: she heard the voice of God one time, and God 501 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 1: said to her, and why should I leave you here? 502 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 1: And she said Jordan, which is our son, and she 503 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 1: said other than God telling her to lay down and 504 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: get in a position, and asking her why should I 505 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: keep you. She heard God's voice twice during the ordeal. 506 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: I said, Wanda, help me. So she sat up because 507 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: I can hear everything she was saying. We were speaking 508 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 1: telepathically up at this point. This is the first time 509 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,719 Speaker 1: that she actually spoke audibly out loud. She starts praying 510 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: in what we call light language and tongues. This wasn't 511 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 1: really a shock to me because we've been the other 512 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: twenty five years, and I've heard this a couple times before, 513 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 1: so I can hear it. I can vaguely barely hear 514 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: it because I'm so gone, I'm barely even there anymore. 515 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: As I'm approaching the light. Now, this is the third 516 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 1: time I heard God's voice, and he said to me, Stephen, 517 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: be quiet and listen to your wife. Now. When he 518 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: said that a calm came over me. I was allowed 519 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: to focus on her. I was giving back my clarity 520 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: of where I was at that moment. So as soon 521 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: as I looked over to her to my right, she 522 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: starts speaking in different languages. She starts speaking in an 523 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: African language and chanting in the African language. Now we've 524 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 1: been the other twenty five years. The only language we 525 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: know is English. So in my mind first thought, thinking 526 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: human terms and logic, that this is impossible. She starts 527 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: speaking in the African language and chanting. She transitions to 528 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: a different one. Now I could tell it's an African 529 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: language because I've heard it. We've heard the past, like 530 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 1: you know what someone speaking Spanish even though you don't 531 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,679 Speaker 1: know what they're saying, right, or Italian, so you know 532 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: the language, but you don't know what they're saying. She 533 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: speaks in three different African languages, and then she transitions 534 00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: to an Indian language where she's speaking and chanting fluently. 535 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 1: So I'm in amazement. I can't believe it. But it's 536 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: funny if soon as she started doing that, as soon 537 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: as she started interceding, that's what brought me back. Nothing 538 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 1: brought me back before then, begging, asking God, promising this, 539 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: you know, begging that, asking for Jesus. Nothing brought me 540 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: back until she interceded. I got up. As I came 541 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 1: fully back, I was brought back. I was back aware 542 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: in my body. I got up, started pacing the floor. 543 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: I looked over at her. She was sitting there with 544 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: the days on her face. She was there with her 545 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,719 Speaker 1: eyes wide open, just staring at like she was asleep, 546 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 1: but her eyes were open. So I didn't want to 547 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 1: say anything to her. I didn't know what she was 548 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: going through, but I left her alone. At this time, 549 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: I'm getting all these downloads from God about what you're 550 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: going to do, what's going to happen in the future. 551 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: My third eye, the penal glant, was throbbing and was 552 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: in so much pain and just throbbing and in pain 553 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: because I was in such a spiritual state of receiving 554 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: after going through this spiritual event. So my wife finally 555 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: comes out of it. I said, oh my God, do 556 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: you know what you just did? Do you know what 557 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: just happened? And she said, what are you talking about? 558 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: I said, you just spoken three different languages. She couldn't 559 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: remember it at first, and she's like, hold on, I say, 560 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: give me a second. So she takes a second, gavenged 561 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: herself and starts to come back to her. I said, 562 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: what were you saying? She said, I have no idea 563 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I don't speak those languages. I have 564 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: no idea what I was saying. We came out of it. 565 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: We started comparing notes. She said, I could hear your prayers, Stephen, 566 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: and I said, I can hear you telling me to 567 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: fight and telling me to keep praying and don't give up. 568 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: We were speaking telepathly, so in a nutshell, that was 569 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: our experience, and I know from that that was part 570 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: of the wakeup call because I needed a swift kick 571 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: to get on your path and purpose. And I thank 572 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: God for it because who knows how much I would 573 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: have reverted if it wasn't for God giving me that 574 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: experience to let me know you are supported like we 575 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: all are. This is your calling and basically you know 576 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: what you need to get to it or else stop 577 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: fooling around. So, yeah, did you go to the doctor. 578 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 3: Did you get yourself taken care of? After that? 579 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: You know what? I've had people ask me that, And 580 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: as soon as that came to my mind, I was 581 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: told you don't need to go to the doctor. This 582 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: is not a medical condition. It's a spiritual condition. You 583 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: don't need to go to the doctor. So I had 584 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: never had any kind of pain or symptoms before, and 585 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: I haven't had the pain or symptoms after this because 586 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: I know that it wasn't a medical condition. It was 587 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: a spiritual condition that I had to go through. 588 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 3: My goodness. Not too long ago, we spoke with a 589 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 3: woman about spiritually transformative experiences. Yep, and yes there are 590 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 3: near death experiences that are part of that, but there 591 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 3: are other kinds of experiences. They put you where you 592 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 3: need to be in the biggest picture. And I can 593 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 3: totally get the way you were describing that wake up 594 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 3: call that it's time to get on your mission. I 595 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 3: mean it took me hitting rock bottom with my dad dying, 596 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 3: like Okay, you're going to do this now right here? 597 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 3: You go? 598 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: Yeah for me? And I'll say this, and people have 599 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: kind of misconstrued, so I want to make sure I 600 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: explain this. A few months before then, like I said, 601 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: because I had a lot of syncreticities, out of body 602 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: experiences and whatnot where I was in the white light, 603 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: but it wasn't a near death experience. It was an 604 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: out of body experience where God showed me the love 605 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: of the white light, gave me a taste or peace 606 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: of his love. A lot of people haven't experienced this, 607 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,959 Speaker 1: and I've heard this before where people really can't describe it. 608 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: It's so intense and incredible. It's undescribable. Where I felt 609 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: that it was actually so intense, I had to ask 610 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: God to ease up a little bit because I couldn't 611 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: take it. I was literally in a ball, crying, clutching 612 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: myself trying to take all the love in. It was 613 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: so powerful. That happened a few months before my nd 614 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: and everything. But the reason I say that is because 615 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: during this NDE, when I was approaching the light, I 616 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: know God loves me, God loves us all. God is 617 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: unconditional love. That's what the universe is based on. But 618 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: for me, this was more like I could attribute this 619 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: to a spiritual spanking. It's like a father coming in 620 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: the room with a belt. I love you, but you 621 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: need some tough love. It was a totally different experience 622 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: from that. Yes, Steve, and I love you, but you 623 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: need this spanking to get on track because there's people 624 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: that you need to help. There's things that you need 625 00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: to do. You need to be out there raising the Bible, 626 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: raising the frequency of this world, this universe. And you 627 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: know what, I'm going to give you this experience to 628 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: show you that you are enough, You are supported. This 629 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: is your calling. You're not crazy. Don't worry about other 630 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: people's opinions, validation, or approval. And That's where I'm at 631 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: right now. 632 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 3: I love spiritual spanking. 633 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: I get it. 634 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 3: Yes, Oh my gosh, it's a perfect term for that. Yes, 635 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 3: And I agree too. There's always going to be people 636 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 3: that don't agree with us. There's always going to be 637 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 3: people that think we're crazy. But that's okay. I was 638 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 3: the biggest skeptic twenty seven, twenty eight years ago that 639 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 3: I wouldn't even believe I'd been having this conversation now, 640 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 3: I really thought I knew better, right, And so we 641 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 3: all go on those paths, and sometimes it takes having 642 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 3: a crisis or trauma in your life, or a death 643 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 3: of a loved one, or an illness or something that 644 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 3: gives us that dark night of the soul gets us 645 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 3: on our path. So you've got your little spiritual spanking, 646 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 3: and look at you now. I want to talk to 647 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 3: you a little bit about the afterlife because you seem 648 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 3: pretty confident and I too feel very confident that there 649 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 3: is one. But we have a lot of listeners right 650 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,479 Speaker 3: now who have a loved one who had passed. Yes, 651 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 3: could you talk a little bit about your reasons to 652 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 3: believe in the afterlife? 653 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: Well, Number one, you have to have an open mind 654 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: to realize that there's something more, that there's something out there. 655 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: Don't believe everything you've been told, don't believe everything you feel, 656 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: don't believe everything you think, because a lot of those 657 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: things are not reality. And as far as the afterlife, 658 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: it starts with all the stories. I'm a firm believer 659 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: that everybody is not making it up. Everybody's not crazy, 660 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: not lying to get attention, or not making stuff up. 661 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: There's too many experiences, there's too many people, there's too 662 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: much evidence out there for me to not believe. So 663 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: I was a believer even before any of this happened. 664 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: I was actually jealous of people that went through it. 665 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: It's like, Wow, that's great. I never thought I would 666 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: go through it. But after going through the spiritual awakening 667 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: and seeing the light in my outer body experience, not 668 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: the near death, of sperience, feeling the love of God, 669 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: the synchronicities, the way the universe communicates with you through numbers, 670 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 1: through song, through other people. Being on the verge of 671 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: death but knowing that, and this is the big thing 672 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: is there's just a knowing a lot of this stuff. 673 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: People want proof and all that kind of stuff. You 674 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,720 Speaker 1: got understand when you're thinking worldly and logical in this proof, 675 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: you cannot apply that kind of thinking or kind of 676 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:26,240 Speaker 1: logic when trying to understand and interpret spiritual events and concepts. 677 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 1: You can't because it's not going to work, because you're 678 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: going to put that event in those boundaries, in that box, 679 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: and you can't do that. The spirit world's unlimited. So 680 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: in order for us to understand it and even to 681 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,320 Speaker 1: be in tune and connect with it, we have to 682 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 1: unlimit ourselves to be able to connect with it. And 683 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 1: when you keep yourself limited, you can't. So being on 684 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: the verge of death and not fearing death and knowing 685 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: that on the other side is just a transition of 686 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: energy that your loved ones are still there, our sole 687 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 1: family is still there. There's been so many synchronicities that 688 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: I've had from the universe of being spoken to, and 689 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,359 Speaker 1: for me, going through these situations is not something that 690 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,800 Speaker 1: we can create or imagine on our own. It's a 691 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,399 Speaker 1: spiritual condition. So just knowing that there is something more 692 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,320 Speaker 1: out there. Your loved ones are out there, your higher 693 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 1: self is out there, your spirit guides, your angels are 694 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: out there, and they're waiting to contact you. So I 695 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: encourage people if you just let go of some of 696 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: those things that you hold on as truths. Let go. 697 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: I'll teach you how to identify that negative thinking, identify 698 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: those social mental constructs, religious dogma that's keeping you trapped 699 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 1: and not allowing you to experiencing what the universe wants 700 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: to show you, what it wants to tell you, and 701 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,359 Speaker 1: even the loved ones out there that may be trying 702 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: to communicate, but you have all these blockages, You have 703 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: all these hindrances that are keeping you from receiving. So 704 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 1: it is real. It is out there. And I'm telling 705 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: you this not because of a book I read, not 706 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 1: because of somebody else's experience, and not because of the 707 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 1: doctrines as I've studied. It's real through experience. And that's 708 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: another thing that God told me. I was told no 709 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 1: matter what you read no matter what you study, what 710 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 1: degree certificates you get, that's all great knowledge and wisdom 711 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 1: is great. Nothing beats experience of going through it and 712 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 1: living it. I could be a true example of not 713 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,439 Speaker 1: what my brother told me, not what my mother said 714 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: or friend said, or not what I read, but what 715 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,479 Speaker 1: I've experienced. And it's all they're waiting for you once 716 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: you release, because when you continue to limit yourself, you 717 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,760 Speaker 1: will limit the universe and you limit your connection. 718 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 3: Makes perfect sense. I know that ego is a bear, 719 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,399 Speaker 3: and I know we live in a time that we're 720 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 3: constantly looking at our phones, checking mail, checking text messages. 721 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 3: We live in the past, we live in the future. 722 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 3: In our mind, we're busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy. 723 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 3: And it's my firm belief Stephen, that our connection to 724 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 3: everything is in the present moment. 725 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 1: Yes, definitely. 726 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,320 Speaker 3: Do you recommend any meditative kind of processes for people 727 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:55,359 Speaker 3: to slow down and to connect? I do have processes 728 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 3: and meditations for connection. The most important thing is the 729 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:00,479 Speaker 3: old minded. 730 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 1: This so when I talk to people, I don't take 731 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 1: on all my clients because I'm a firm believer and 732 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,359 Speaker 1: not wasting anybody's time or resources. And if I don't 733 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 1: truly believe I can help you, I don't do that. 734 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 1: I do not waste time. I believe that you have 735 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 1: to be open, and you have to be open to 736 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,840 Speaker 1: looking at yourself and doing the shadow work first before 737 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,280 Speaker 1: you get into that, because there's a lot of people 738 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,399 Speaker 1: that come to me actually and say, you know what, 739 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,720 Speaker 1: I'm meditating, I'm doing sound baths, I'm walking in nature, 740 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,760 Speaker 1: and I just don't feel the connection. I don't understand 741 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: what's wrong. I'm not hearing it. I don't get it. 742 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 1: And the reason behind that is you're not dealing with 743 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: those low vibration feelings, emotions and thoughts that are blocking, 744 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,839 Speaker 1: that are hindering. So you have to deal with those first. 745 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 1: You have to dress those. If you haven't forgiven your 746 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,919 Speaker 1: mother for something, if you're jealous of your best friend 747 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 1: for something, if you get on the phone and you 748 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 1: have expectations of people, and these little things like this 749 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 1: we don't think about. 750 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 3: We'll be right back with a whole bunch of advice 751 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 3: from the spiritual coach. You're listening to Shades of the 752 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 3: Afterlife on the iHeart Radio and Coast to Coast AM 753 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:23,359 Speaker 3: Normal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. 754 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 3: I'm Sandra Champlain. You can find out more about our guest, 755 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 3: Steven LaRussa at his website Spiritual alignmentsl dot com. Now 756 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 3: there's things that block us in life. We can all 757 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 3: agree on that. Here's the advice from this spiritual coach. 758 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 1: You're not dealing with those low vibration and feelings, emotions 759 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: and thoughts that are blocking, that are hindering. So you 760 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 1: have to deal with those first. You have to dress those. 761 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 1: If you haven't forgiven your mother for something, if you're 762 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 1: jealous of your best friend for something, if you get 763 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 1: on the phone and you have expectations of people and 764 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 1: these little things like this we don't think about is expectations. 765 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 1: You call somebody and need something or want to tell 766 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 1: them something, and you expect a certain response and you 767 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 1: will respect a certain outcome. So I had a client 768 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: I was dealing with this. They said they called somebody 769 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 1: and they wanted a favor. And they said, well, I 770 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 1: did the same favor for them a few months ago, 771 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,360 Speaker 1: so I know they'll do it for me. But you 772 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 1: don't do that when you hold on that expectation and 773 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 1: you start getting angry because they don't react like you do, 774 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: or you start judging, or you start getting mad. All 775 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 1: those little things that we do that we sweep under 776 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 1: the rug, that we don't think is a big deal 777 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 1: and we don't look at or we try to justify 778 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 1: because I'm angry, because I'm mad, and we justify those feelings. 779 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 1: When you go to try to connect, you're not gonna 780 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,880 Speaker 1: be able to get the full connection because you're not 781 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,840 Speaker 1: dealing with those blocks and hindreds. Like I tell people, 782 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: it's kind of like Wi Fi. You know how your 783 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:45,879 Speaker 1: Wi Fi buffers when you're trying to play a song 784 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,839 Speaker 1: or a TV show. I said, a lot of people 785 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 1: are spiritually buffering. It. May play once in a while, 786 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 1: you may get a connection here and there, but to 787 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 1: get that to play fully, we have to deal with 788 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:56,840 Speaker 1: those things first. And I think a lot of people 789 00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,319 Speaker 1: they make the mistake of skipping the shadow work with 790 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 1: the issues and want to jump over that and jump 791 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 1: to the spiritual practices. I had attributed to a car 792 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 1: where we take a car for an oil change. What's 793 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 1: the first thing to do. They drain the old oil. 794 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 1: They don't put new oil on top of that old oil. Right, 795 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: You've got to drain that old oil first for that 796 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 1: car to run at its optimum level. Now, you could 797 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 1: put the new oil in on top of the oil 798 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,239 Speaker 1: and still run, but you're not going to run and 799 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 1: be fully connected and run at your best and get 800 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 1: all the signs and the messages and be able to 801 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 1: receive unless you deal with those things that are blocking 802 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 1: Henry Because all those low vibrational thoughts, feeling, jealousy, anger, unforgiveness, 803 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,959 Speaker 1: that's all opposite of the universe, that's all opposite of God. Right, 804 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 1: So if you're operating in things that are opposite of God, 805 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 1: what do you think that does to your connection? No 806 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 1: matter what spiritual practice you do, and you're holding onto 807 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,240 Speaker 1: that right, I've. 808 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,759 Speaker 3: Heard it phrased this way, and it's the same. And 809 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,360 Speaker 3: throughout our life we make judgments about it other people, 810 00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 3: I can't trust you, or even to ourselves, I'm not 811 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,880 Speaker 3: good enough. And it's like we put on different pairs 812 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,879 Speaker 3: of glasses. So we've got to I'm not good enough 813 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 3: and I can't trust you all these things, and then 814 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 3: we think, oh, I want to have this spiritual transformation, 815 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 3: not realizing that we can't see clearly. So we have 816 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 3: to be able to pick off those judgments, put them 817 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,799 Speaker 3: back in the past where they belong, and then we're 818 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,279 Speaker 3: free to be able to explore. So I love that 819 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 3: you want to tell us what we can find on 820 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 3: your website, what it is, and how people can reach you. 821 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,239 Speaker 1: My website is basically a little more well. It has 822 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 1: my story on there, and I do have a video 823 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,919 Speaker 1: of my nde which goes into more detail. I've had 824 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:42,320 Speaker 1: the services that I provide, workshops, Q and A talks 825 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:47,240 Speaker 1: one on one, and for me, it's all about having 826 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,279 Speaker 1: people realize their power, come into their power, and a 827 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,400 Speaker 1: lot of people, unfortunately, have been conditioned. And it's not 828 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 1: about doubting any religion or any faith, because I'm consider 829 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 1: myself an omnus which I find truth in all the 830 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 1: religions and I take the good from all of them 831 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 1: and I apply them. But here's the thing, and I'm 832 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 1: not knocking any religion, but what people have to understand 833 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 1: is they have to stop giving their power to other 834 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 1: people and other institutions putting their power in other people 835 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 1: to connect them with God, whether that's a pastor, a priest, 836 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 1: a clergyman, or an institution. We have the power to connect. 837 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,880 Speaker 1: We got to stop putting people in institutions on pedestals 838 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 1: that they're above us, that they're higher than us, that 839 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 1: they have a better connection, basically, that they're more worthy. 840 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 1: What they're telling us is I'm not worthy to connect 841 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 1: on my own and have my own spiritual experience with 842 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,800 Speaker 1: God and talk to God and connect with the angels 843 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 1: and my spirit team. I need to go to this man, 844 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,800 Speaker 1: I need to go to this institution. You don't you 845 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,720 Speaker 1: have the power within. We all have an equal connection. 846 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 1: Some people are more connected because they're more in tune 847 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 1: and they deal with a lot of the things I've 848 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,919 Speaker 1: mentioned and talked about earlier. But people need to stop 849 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 1: giving their power to institutions and running the institutions and 850 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 1: expecting to be connected. I have family coming to me 851 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,839 Speaker 1: and say they've been in church for twenty thirty years 852 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 1: and they don't feel a connection. I said, why do 853 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,759 Speaker 1: you keep going? And this is the thing. Keep going 854 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,759 Speaker 1: because it's comfortable, because it's all I know, because I 855 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,680 Speaker 1: don't know what else to do. And that's what I 856 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,239 Speaker 1: want to have. People to know that you have the 857 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 1: power within to connect, and a spiritual coach it's not 858 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,880 Speaker 1: his job to tell you what your path or purpose is. 859 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,840 Speaker 1: It's not his job to tell you what you should 860 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,280 Speaker 1: be doing or what you should believe. It's about having 861 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:24,239 Speaker 1: you come in your power, being there as a support, 862 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 1: helping you identify those blockages and hindrances and dealing with them. 863 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,239 Speaker 1: Changing your perspective, because there's only two perspectives. You can 864 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,080 Speaker 1: go through life thinking of things and perceiving things and 865 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,840 Speaker 1: having the paradigm of a logical, man made view, or 866 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,360 Speaker 1: we could shift our perspective look at things more spiritually 867 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 1: and through a spiritual lens. One of the biggest things 868 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 1: is judgment. I tell people that have this judgment. When 869 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 1: you look at someone and you see what they're doing, 870 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,760 Speaker 1: we label, oh, what's wrong with them? They're crazy, that's stupid. 871 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,759 Speaker 1: All those are low vibrational thoughts and feelings that keep 872 00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,840 Speaker 1: you stuck and don't align with spiritual and universal laws, 873 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,800 Speaker 1: and it affects your connection. So what I tell people 874 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 1: looking at these people and looking at it from a 875 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 1: more spiritual view, you know what, that's their path and purpose. 876 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,240 Speaker 1: There's something that they have to learn, there's a lesson 877 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 1: that they have to go through. Now, maybe that's not 878 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 1: something I would do or something you could say that, Okay, 879 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,400 Speaker 1: that's not a choice I would make. That's fine, But 880 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 1: to judge them and label them crazy, stupid, what's wrong 881 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 1: with them? All those low vibrational thoughts and feelings blocking 882 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 1: hind your connection. So, no matter what you do spiritually, 883 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 1: the spiritual practices and make you spiritual, the first step 884 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:35,480 Speaker 1: towards spirituality and truly connecting is unlimiting yourself. All those 885 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 1: things that you believe to be true and concrete. You 886 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 1: have to let those go because if you're stuck in 887 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:41,759 Speaker 1: believing this is the only truth and this is what 888 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,359 Speaker 1: I believe and there's nothing else, you're limiting yourself. You're 889 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,760 Speaker 1: stuck in that construct. So you have to unlearn everything 890 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,360 Speaker 1: you've learned, and you have to be willing to address 891 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,399 Speaker 1: the things deep down that you maybe are sweeping under 892 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,080 Speaker 1: the rug or not a big deal, or you're trying 893 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 1: to justify. That's how you begin to connect spiritually, not 894 00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 1: by running to meditate and yoga and all that which 895 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,200 Speaker 1: is great, which is good, but a lot of people 896 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 1: are skipping that. They're skipping the main part of it 897 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 1: as a connection. 898 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 3: My my goodness, really good advice and feels like that 899 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:16,000 Speaker 3: a little coaching session. Spiritual Alignment sl dot com is 900 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 3: your website, and yes, it all sounds so good. I 901 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,839 Speaker 3: do hope you're writing a lot down and that there's 902 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,160 Speaker 3: a book in your future, because I just feel like 903 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:28,799 Speaker 3: there's a little handbook for living from Stephen LaRussa that 904 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 3: is going to be appearing someday. Stephen, with our time together, 905 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,200 Speaker 3: you got a nice audience listening to you. What's something 906 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,319 Speaker 3: maybe we could do today just to kind of open 907 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 3: ourselves up to maybe the bigger picture or our loved 908 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,359 Speaker 3: ones or whatever it is. You'd like to say, Yes, 909 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,919 Speaker 3: I appreciate it. Here's a few things that I suggest. One, 910 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:53,880 Speaker 3: work on unlimiting your mind. Work on unlearning what you've learned. 911 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:58,759 Speaker 3: Work on being more open, more receiving to ideals. Don't 912 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 3: be so concrete in your book leafs and your thoughts 913 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 3: and your emotions. Also judgment and expectations. 914 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,359 Speaker 1: Those are two of the biggest things that hinder us 915 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,799 Speaker 1: right there, that we do consciously and sometimes unconsciously. But 916 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 1: as far as connection, here's the three biggest things that 917 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,920 Speaker 1: I use when I'm feeling a little spiritually down or 918 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,480 Speaker 1: need a little boost or whatnot. Is one it's important 919 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,960 Speaker 1: to stay in the present. Then you mentioned this earlier, 920 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,840 Speaker 1: staying in the present, because you cannot receive the messages 921 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 1: from your loved ones, from your spirit guides, from the source, 922 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,279 Speaker 1: from angels. You cannot receive them if you're not in 923 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,480 Speaker 1: the present. Because those messages are going to come to 924 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:36,840 Speaker 1: you in the present. They're not going to come to 925 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,440 Speaker 1: you in the past. They're not going to come to 926 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,479 Speaker 1: you in the future. Right, So it's a couple tips 927 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 1: for being in the present. It's very simple when you're 928 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:46,000 Speaker 1: out and about. When you're at home, focus on the 929 00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,240 Speaker 1: task at hand. If you're washing the dishes, feel the cup, 930 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,759 Speaker 1: feel the warmth of the water or the coolness of 931 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,080 Speaker 1: the water or the SuDS. When you're outside, take note 932 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,080 Speaker 1: of what you're smelling, what you're seeing, when you're eating, 933 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 1: what you're tasting down in life and taste it and 934 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:05,440 Speaker 1: embrace it. Basically, being in tune with your current environment 935 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,839 Speaker 1: or situation. Smell. Using those senses of being in tune 936 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 1: that helps keep you in the present. Two is being grateful. 937 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,760 Speaker 1: Other than unconditional love. Being grateful is the second highest 938 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,600 Speaker 1: frequency in the universe. Now here's the thing to take 939 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,960 Speaker 1: your gratefulness to a higher level real quick. Everybody's grateful 940 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,080 Speaker 1: for the things. Oh, my job and roof over my head, 941 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 1: my family, all great. But here's why I tell people, 942 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,319 Speaker 1: when you start being grateful for the situations that you 943 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 1: went through that we classify as tough or bad or horrible, 944 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,640 Speaker 1: and realize change your perspective that those were learning lessons, 945 00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,200 Speaker 1: Those were things I needed to learn from, to grow 946 00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,480 Speaker 1: and evolve from. That's part of switching our perception of 947 00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,680 Speaker 1: those things being bad, terrible, horrible, because then every time 948 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,920 Speaker 1: you think about them again, you're reliving them and you're 949 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,880 Speaker 1: bringing your vibration down right. So let's change the perspective. 950 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,160 Speaker 1: What did I learn from that? What did I get 951 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 1: out of that? Or if that situation comes up, how 952 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,279 Speaker 1: could I hand look better from a different perspective where 953 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,399 Speaker 1: I can stop. Especially for people that are called a loop, 954 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,239 Speaker 1: I always hear, why does this keep happen to me? 955 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,440 Speaker 1: Why do I keep going through this? That's part of 956 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,560 Speaker 1: stopping that loop. Once you learn and you transcend that 957 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,800 Speaker 1: lesson and learn it and perceive it and handle it differently, 958 00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,560 Speaker 1: it'll stop. It'll be removed from your life. I guarantee it, 959 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 1: because it's happen with me. So be grateful for those 960 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,040 Speaker 1: things that we look at as bad or terrible and 961 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:23,960 Speaker 1: turn them around and look at them as lessons. What 962 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,320 Speaker 1: do I learn? What do I do differently, real quickly 963 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 1: is embracing oneness. We're all one, We're all from God, 964 00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:33,160 Speaker 1: We're all from source. This illusion of separatism helps to 965 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,160 Speaker 1: hinder and block your connection because if you consider yourself 966 00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:40,640 Speaker 1: separate from everything in everybody meet against him, her against him, 967 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:45,120 Speaker 1: Democrat against Republican, right against black. That creates separatism. That's 968 00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,040 Speaker 1: anti universe, that duality, it goes against the universe. That's 969 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,400 Speaker 1: something for us to learn and grow and evolve from. 970 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:54,080 Speaker 1: But you think of everything as one. The plants, the rocks, 971 00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,480 Speaker 1: the trees, everything you see, smell, touch, or hear is 972 00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,920 Speaker 1: from source, and you just embrace that and kind of 973 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,000 Speaker 1: keep that thought in your head throughout the day. Those 974 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:05,520 Speaker 1: three things raise your vibration and open you up to 975 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:10,320 Speaker 1: receiving spiritual downloads, to receiving messages, signs, and synchronicities from universe. 976 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,360 Speaker 3: Stephen, I have loved talking with you today. 977 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,359 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. I appreciate it. 978 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 3: You know, I received my own spiritual slap in twenty 979 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:25,040 Speaker 3: fifteen when my dad died. I had so much information 980 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,640 Speaker 3: about the afterlife, but I was too afraid to share. 981 00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,440 Speaker 3: Who would listen to me anyways? But once I got 982 00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,160 Speaker 3: a taste of what real grief is, I knew I 983 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,480 Speaker 3: had to share. And if you're suffering, I want to 984 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:39,080 Speaker 3: give you everything I can. Don't forget. Come to wedotdie 985 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,960 Speaker 3: dot com the bottom of the page. Enter your name 986 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,439 Speaker 3: and your email address. You'll get my book, We Don't Die, 987 00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,759 Speaker 3: a skeptics discovery of life after death, plus a whole 988 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,720 Speaker 3: bunch of other great goodies. Chapter ten is about grief 989 00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:57,320 Speaker 3: and also don't forget to visit doctor Tom Neimei site 990 00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:01,799 Speaker 3: find out about induced after death communication, which is most 991 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:06,720 Speaker 3: importantly a grief therapy and a good one. Healing grief 992 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:12,680 Speaker 3: with IADC dot com. I'm Sandra Champlain. Remember there's an 993 00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:17,560 Speaker 3: invisible world around you, filled with love. You are one 994 00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,880 Speaker 3: of a kind and your life matters. Thank you so 995 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,640 Speaker 3: much for listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the 996 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 3: iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast am Paranormal Podcast Network. 997 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,000 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Ghost 998 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,040 Speaker 2: d A and Paranormal Podcast Network. Make sure and check out 999 00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,359 Speaker 2: all our shows on the iHeartRadio app, or by going 1000 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:53,839 Speaker 2: to iHeartRadio dot com