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Speaker 1: Graydon recapping the F one race in Austin, Texas.
Speaker 2: Boston, Texas. You think it would be an advantage? Weird
Speaker 2: start today, that's a weird one. Would it be an
Speaker 2: advantage to drive a Formula one car with a motorcycle handlebars?
Speaker 2: Think about it. We'll get into that more at one
Speaker 2: o'clock PM Eastern on No buns, no breaks. Hey, hey, JD.
Speaker 2: Just start over, Turbo, just start the whole show over.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, you go.
Speaker 3: I Well, motorcycle riders that do the lazier easy riding
Speaker 3: way up those handlebars that are way up, they're like
Speaker 3: shoulder level. It must be tiring. Yeah, it must be
Speaker 3: extremely tiring on the arms. I'm surprised I would. I
Speaker 3: would never do that. I'd rather be hunched over that
Speaker 3: it's more comfortable, or you're gonna ride a tricycle. Tricycles
Speaker 3: are fun. Those ones.
Speaker 1: We have a lot of NBA games to get to,
Speaker 1: a lot of NBA headlines to tackle. But but, but
Speaker 1: but we had another Reggie last night, and this one
Speaker 1: happened in Portland, and that means the Weggie Whisperer himself,
Speaker 1: Lamar Hurd was on the call to listen.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 1: You know what that means.
Speaker 3: We have a wet I got I gotta get the
Speaker 3: talent from the no dunsco.
Speaker 2: You know they track every.
Speaker 1: Wedding Reggie Tracker dot com.
Speaker 2: Put it in a book.
Speaker 1: Books there it is number two Weggie Tracker dot Com.
Speaker 1: They were a little slow to the first one, updating
Speaker 1: the website Loudery the other night, but.
Speaker 5: Now they're on it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I like how Kevin Collaboro, played by play announcer
Speaker 3: for the Blazer, says, that's the first one of the
Speaker 3: season for you to Lamar Hurt as in, I don't
Speaker 3: I don't touch these wedgies. That's all you go go crazy,
Speaker 3: Lamar Hurt obviously jumping all over it. Just it's meant
Speaker 3: to be. He gets all the witches.
Speaker 1: Why are they always happening in Portland?
Speaker 3: It is astonishing.
Speaker 2: It's the humidity. I do think. I think the balls
Speaker 2: are stickier. It's possible. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I just think.
Speaker 1: So okay, let's get into a little what you got.
Speaker 2: What you got? It's hot used to be a little
Speaker 2: freezing in the A. Okay, let's talk about basketball.
Speaker 1: Bars, all right? First one here, what you got, you know,
Speaker 1: I throw a couple options at you guys. You tell
Speaker 1: me which one you want to go with. We'll start
Speaker 1: this Monday Nights more impressive duo because we got two
Speaker 1: incredible backcourt performances from two teams in wins Lillard and
Speaker 1: Simons with the Blazers taking care of the Nuggets at
Speaker 1: home where we saw that wedgie happen. Or John Morant
Speaker 1: and Desmond Bain with the Grizzlies beating the Brooklyn Nets.
Speaker 3: Very different. What's your choice here? Yeah, both incredible performances.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with the Memphis Grizzlies because I couldn't
Speaker 3: really pick who had the more impressive performance from that
Speaker 3: team from Morent and Desmond Bain. Phenomenal stuff. Bain coming
Speaker 3: out there in the third quarter getting hot for nineteen
Speaker 3: of his points, but I think John Morant was the
Speaker 3: more impressive guy. That team worth the discounted league past
Speaker 3: price they're putting out there this year on their own
Speaker 3: marine and phenomenal Jo Moran has never lost to the
Speaker 3: Brooklyn Nets. Five and oh against the Brooklyn Nets the
Speaker 3: Memphis Grizzlies seven and O under Taylor Jenkins against the
Speaker 3: Brooklyn Nets. They've won their last seven games. It's an
Speaker 3: incredible place to watch a game. John Moran, the left
Speaker 3: handed alley oop dunk, the two handed dunk, the passing,
Speaker 3: the everything, the fouling out of Ben Simmons, and then
Speaker 3: recalling after the game the same thing he did in
Speaker 3: his rookie year to Ben Simmons to foul him out
Speaker 3: against the Sixers way back when. I mean just so
Speaker 3: much there. And the injection of Santi al Dama into
Speaker 3: the starting lineup. I know we're talking about Moran and Bain,
Speaker 3: which is phenomenal, but you don't really miss Jaron Jackson
Speaker 3: junior right now. If there's one team that can just
Speaker 3: pick somebody up off the bench and insert him into
Speaker 3: the starting lineup, they're three and one. Part of that
Speaker 3: reason is because al Dama's got a ton of confidence
Speaker 3: at seventeen, and this one can shoot, can obviously drive
Speaker 3: solous performance against a crappy Brooklyn Nets defense that is
Speaker 3: going to fall apart as this season comes goes along.
Speaker 3: They're one and three to start this season, but crazy
Speaker 3: stuff in both cities, so I couldn't. I couldn't really decide, but.
Speaker 1: In the end leaning towards Jaw and Babe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jaw and Baby. There's just some good storylines around there.
Speaker 3: And I kind of have an aversion to watching the
Speaker 3: Brooklyn Nets. I gotta be honest, it's like I want
Speaker 3: to avoid them. It's it's disease, Like I don't want
Speaker 3: to see that defense play. But they wanted this game.
Speaker 3: They did, but they just can't stop anybody when you've
Speaker 3: got two guards like that. They can try with a
Speaker 3: Ben Simmons, but they can't stop two guards like that.
Speaker 1: More impressive backcourt duo last night Lillard's and Simons Simons
Speaker 1: or John.
Speaker 2: Ban You know, it's a special night when Kyrie Irving
Speaker 2: and Kevin duranco for seventy four points combined and they're
Speaker 2: coming in a clear third here. So yeah, John Bain
Speaker 2: were awesome thirty eight apiece, But I will go with
Speaker 2: Lillard and Simons just because Anthony Simon's exploding for twenty
Speaker 2: two points in six minutes was the coolest thing I
Speaker 2: think that happened last night. He hit six straight threes,
Speaker 2: three of them he was blanketed by Contavious Caldwell Pope,
Speaker 2: and it was honestly like Clay Thompson esk the way
Speaker 2: they were just forcing the ball to him, saying, get
Speaker 2: the shot up because it's probably going in. Dame Lillard
Speaker 2: was coming down and just calling a play for Anthonty
Speaker 2: Simons every time down the court. There were questions myself
Speaker 2: included if Simons would be able to repeat his performance
Speaker 2: last year alongside Damian Lillard coming into this season. He
Speaker 2: looks like he's got it going. And last night, despite
Speaker 2: the fact that Lillard and Simons only went for sixty
Speaker 2: points combined, a mere sixty, they gotta be the more
Speaker 2: impressive duo for at least last night, just because watching
Speaker 2: somebody get twenty two and a quarter is pretty crazy.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, we're always talking about or I guess
Speaker 1: we did on the other podcast. You know, if you
Speaker 1: woke up out of the coma and you had to
Speaker 1: pick between watching the best stunks of the season the
Speaker 1: best dimes of the season, what would you pick. The
Speaker 1: real answer for me is a guy that catches fire.
Speaker 1: In the NBA, there is nothing better than someone that
Speaker 1: is just unconscious for like a five to six minute stretch,
Speaker 1: especially at home, and when they're just like give them
Speaker 1: the ball. Everybody knows where it's going. Kcp's all over them.
Speaker 1: Gordon was all over them in Simon's case, here I'm
Speaker 1: talking about and it doesn't matter. He even said after
Speaker 1: the game, like I hit one of them blind, Like
Speaker 1: there was the one whereas barely you can barely even
Speaker 1: see the rim at the top and he just chucks
Speaker 1: it up. So the twenty two points in that explosion,
Speaker 1: there was a lot of fun, I guess. So I
Speaker 1: go with them last night as my answer to this
Speaker 1: in the what You Got. But I do wonder if
Speaker 1: John Morant and Desmond Baine are they the best backcourt
Speaker 1: in the league. I know Curry and Clay would have
Speaker 1: something to say about that, but man, they're on the
Speaker 1: short list, right and maybe Lord and Simon's two at
Speaker 1: this point. But man, Moran and Bain, with what we've
Speaker 1: seen already from them a year prior and then now
Speaker 1: this year they start, I mean, they just they're there
Speaker 1: to me.
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, yeah, And when you're led by John Moranton,
Speaker 3: they have that confidence. Was a blast coming out of
Speaker 3: the locker room there because they wanted to give it
Speaker 3: to Kyrie and Kevin Durant, who as Trey mentioned both
Speaker 3: had thirty seven. Just you know, thinking about that to
Speaker 3: two sets of teammates, thirty seven plus thirty seven, thirty
Speaker 3: seven for the Nets, thirty eight and thirty eight for
Speaker 3: the Grizzlies. Duo hasn't happened since nineteen eighty three, where
Speaker 3: two sets of teammates have done that. So that was
Speaker 3: hard to do. But yeah, the Grizzlies have it all
Speaker 3: together and this is a team that's for real. And yeah,
Speaker 3: on the Simons front, he had two bad games that
Speaker 3: he's coming off of five of seventeen performances. He got
Speaker 3: that one layup with three minutes into the third quarter,
Speaker 3: and then that got him going a mid range shot
Speaker 3: and then Lillard happy to pass it to him, and
Speaker 3: it was a little Warriors esque as soon as Lillard
Speaker 3: gave him the ball, Just like the Warriors throw up
Speaker 3: their hands when Curry lets it go, that's what Lillard
Speaker 3: was doing. You'd throw it to Simons after he got
Speaker 3: those two early buckets in the quarter and then they
Speaker 3: started raining down six to seven from three in the quarter,
Speaker 3: twenty two of his twin incredible.
Speaker 1: I love it. I just love it. At home, Like
Speaker 1: I said, like the bench going nuts too. I think
Speaker 1: there's like I think even the NBA with their clip
Speaker 1: of this game where Simon's going off, they chose not
Speaker 1: Simon shooting a three, but like the Blazer's bench just
Speaker 1: like going bunkers, just going nuts because they don't know
Speaker 1: what to do. And this was a game that they traded,
Speaker 1: trailed really early the Blazers did, looked like the Nuggets
Speaker 1: might take care of business. And then man, they got
Speaker 1: back in a hurry and put up a whole lot
Speaker 1: of points. And Lillard, I mean, we're glossing over him here,
Speaker 1: but like what a start to the season. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's like an MVP candidate again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're the lone undefeated team in the Western Conference
Speaker 3: and sign of a good team. The Nuggets gave it
Speaker 3: to him. In the first half. It looked like the
Speaker 3: Nuggets were gonna win this game. You had Nikola Jokic
Speaker 3: back to the basket, about seventeen eighteen feet from the basket,
Speaker 3: gets the ball with Nurkich on his back left hand,
Speaker 3: just a lob over his shoulder into the lane, over
Speaker 3: a defender to a streaking Jeff Green afore a play,
Speaker 3: fantastic pass, an incredible pass, it's got to be one
Speaker 3: of the best pass of the season that probably won't
Speaker 3: make a top ten list when it comes down to it,
Speaker 3: just because he makes it look so fricking easy. But
Speaker 3: he wasn't really taking it to the Blazers. It was
Speaker 3: an odd night.
Speaker 1: He was in foul trouble all night long.
Speaker 3: Yes he was, he was, but four shot attempts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I know.
Speaker 3: It was strange, but a good sign for a Blazer's
Speaker 3: team coming out of the break. They're down and putting
Speaker 3: it all together there. That's why it was one of
Speaker 3: these games I liked because I watched after the fact
Speaker 3: and I didn't know how the Blazers were going to
Speaker 3: do it. I had no idea, And then that was
Speaker 3: a blast for me to watch Simon's in that third
Speaker 3: quarter and one of the best places to watch a
Speaker 3: game there in Portland as well, both Portland and Memphis.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, those are great rivals for one of the
Speaker 3: best arenas to watch a game.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, are you getting the itch to
Speaker 1: get us all together? Do the road trip again to Memphis?
Speaker 1: After seeing like, just like the highlight tape that John
Speaker 1: Moran already has four games into this season, It's like
Speaker 1: would be most players like they would be happy with
Speaker 1: like these ten plays that he has from four games
Speaker 1: for the entirety of a season. So do we need
Speaker 1: to go to Memphis to see this again in person?
Speaker 3: You hated it, You hated hated driving. You were complaining
Speaker 3: I didn't drive. I know you didn't like driving there.
Speaker 2: You didn't out of the way, you didn't like that
Speaker 2: was some reason.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I forgot about that part. Thank god for me,
Speaker 1: we would have never got to Memphis. I'm the one
Speaker 1: that finally spoke up from the back seat, going I
Speaker 1: think we're going.
Speaker 3: The wrong way. Yeah, well, listen, trying to go to.
Speaker 2: I love college football.
Speaker 3: I met that Mississippi trooper who's a very nice fellow
Speaker 3: who pulled us over. It was my fault. We were
Speaker 3: in a rental. I didn't plug in my car.
Speaker 1: Wasn't that nice He gave you a ticket?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but also yeah, but he got us in and
Speaker 3: out in like nine minutes. That was It was huge
Speaker 3: for a guy that went the absolute wrong way. And
Speaker 3: then we're driving in the wilderness. I mean, if if
Speaker 3: I took us off the road there looking for the APPS,
Speaker 3: I don't know if we'd be here. Who knows we
Speaker 3: would be in a cornfield somewhere right now. It was
Speaker 3: my fault. It was my fault. We're in a rental.
Speaker 3: I didn't plug. I was comfortable with Trey taking over
Speaker 3: the maps. I thought I was in my own car
Speaker 3: on the map, but we just I just thought I'm
Speaker 3: an idiot anyway, wells.
Speaker 2: Due that day was being grish in the back seat. Sea. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I looked like a straight shot to
Speaker 2: show me the map, very straight. We're fine, we should.
Speaker 1: Be okay, we're going back to Memphis. We have to
Speaker 1: redeem ourselves. We should go now.
Speaker 2: We should go specifically right now, but we should go
Speaker 2: while Ja Moranch shooting sixty percent from three because he's
Speaker 2: guaranteed to have like a ridiculous yea, we might be
Speaker 2: able to get there for the first fifty point game.
Speaker 3: Of the year.
Speaker 1: And we're staying. The lesson learned is we're staying the
Speaker 1: night too. Yeah, that was our other thing. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was the right way.
Speaker 2: Another good lesson. We've learned so much.
Speaker 1: Let's hear from you guys in the stream team, everybody
Speaker 1: listening to the podcast watching later, all of these what
Speaker 1: you got. Let's hear your answer. I think that one
Speaker 1: is a fun one from last night. The more impressive
Speaker 1: duo for Monday night? Is it Lillard and Simon's or
Speaker 1: is it jam Rant and Babe both in victories? Next one,
Speaker 1: Let's put it like this, what was the worst loss
Speaker 1: last night?
Speaker 3: The Wolves to the.
Speaker 1: Spurs or the Celtics to the Bulls? Who got pumped
Speaker 1: in the end? Trey get started.
Speaker 2: This is a disrespectful question. Come on, man, The Bulls
Speaker 2: made the playoffs last year. The Bulls beat the Celtics
Speaker 2: last year. It's gotta be the Wolves losing to the Spurs.
Speaker 2: You gotta get creative with you sometimes. Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 2: It's good. Gives me something to get fired up about.
Speaker 2: But I don't know. Maybe we shouldn't be surprised that
Speaker 2: the Wolves lost to the undefeated San Antonio Spurs. They
Speaker 2: still on defeat. No, No, they took the loss. Yeah, they
Speaker 2: took the loss. Nonetheless, the Spurs led by thirty five
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter of this game. That's honestly ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Minnesota now has losses to the Spurs and Jazz and
Speaker 2: are squeaking by the Oklahoma City Thunder. We've seen Rudy
Speaker 2: Gobert has now called the team out defensively after these
Speaker 2: two losses, once for attention to detail, once for effort.
Speaker 2: He is always going to speak his mind when it
Speaker 2: comes to competing on the defensive end, and the Timberwolves
Speaker 2: haven't done it yet. They haven't competed on the defensive end.
Speaker 2: It's almost like they thought, we're bringing in Rudy Gobert instantly,
Speaker 2: we're going to have a good defense, and that has
Speaker 2: been far from the truth. They're getting ran around like crazy.
Speaker 2: It's all about ball movement. If you pass the ball,
Speaker 2: you're gonna beat the Timberwolves. Right now, You're gonna get
Speaker 2: some open threes, and the Spurs were able to do
Speaker 2: that last night. Also, Anthony Edwards looks a little disconnected
Speaker 2: from the team right now. He was missing a bunch
Speaker 2: of layups last night or kind of just standing around
Speaker 2: waiting for something to happen. He seems to be a
Speaker 2: little bit lost. With the geometry of the floor changing,
Speaker 2: so the Wolves, you know, I kind of think there
Speaker 2: was an idea that Rudy Gobert Grober coming in and
Speaker 2: addressing their weaknesses defense and rebounding would change things perfectly,
Speaker 2: and they would pick up right where they left off
Speaker 2: at the end of last season. Obviously there's a lot
Speaker 2: to work through. They've got the time to do it.
Speaker 2: You would rather struggle at the beginning of the seat.
Speaker 2: But it ain't clicking right now at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Chris Finch after the game said, right now, this
Speaker 1: team's personality is kind of timid. Doesn't like what he saw.
Speaker 1: He actually left the starters in at the end of
Speaker 1: this game. They're down like thirty points. He brought them back,
Speaker 1: I should say, with the sole purposes to get them
Speaker 1: some reps. You know, we're getting killed here by the Spurs, Like,
Speaker 1: let's run some stuff here and try and get a
Speaker 1: little more comfortable with each other, which you don't see
Speaker 1: that often. But what do you think of this one?
Speaker 3: Oh, they're embarrassed. They truly were embarrassed because, as I mentioned,
Speaker 3: a good team like the Blazers coming out of halftime
Speaker 3: in their own building, the Grizzlies coming out a half
Speaker 3: time in their own building. After you get mopped in
Speaker 3: the first half, you come out and play better. They
Speaker 3: got ran out of the building in the first half.
Speaker 3: It looked like a bunch of young guys Jeremy Sohan
Speaker 3: and Kelden Johnson and Trey Jones. Just playing against old
Speaker 3: guys who are ready to retire. They just didn't want
Speaker 3: to make any sort of second effort. The fast break
Speaker 3: points twenty four to two in transition thirty nine points
Speaker 3: right off the bat in that first quarter, So thinking
Speaker 3: watching this game that they'd come out with a little
Speaker 3: bit of tenacity. The assistant coach of the Timberwolves was
Speaker 3: interviewed at halftime, and usually an assistant coach doesn't say
Speaker 3: anything of importance. You know, it's it's button down stuff,
Speaker 3: you know, keep it close to the best. Hey, you know,
Speaker 3: we got to work on this. Blah blah blah. He said,
Speaker 3: they're making us run around out there like we're in
Speaker 3: a Tom and Jerry cartoon. Now, maybe don't say that
Speaker 3: to your team because Tom and Jerry. I don't think
Speaker 3: that's really going to resonate with young people these days.
Speaker 3: I mean, if it's kind of hard, who do you
Speaker 3: go with it in a situation like that, like a cartoon,
Speaker 3: modern day cartoon. I mean, even bugs, I think would
Speaker 3: be smarter if you're gonna go oldie, but with a
Speaker 3: new one a sponge SpongeBob and Patrick.
Speaker 1: Running around, Yeah, run underwater.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but I think, I mean people are doing it.
Speaker 3: They're doing it for the Cleveland Guardians. There was a
Speaker 3: SpongeBob out there, and there was a young person wearing
Speaker 3: a SpongeBob. Anyways, anyways, point is they knew at halftime
Speaker 3: they were getting destroyed. Even their assistant coach Mike and Dori,
Speaker 3: was very clear that we stunk. And then they came
Speaker 3: out there and stunk some more in the second half.
Speaker 3: That was I was truly embarrassing.
Speaker 1: Spurs thirty six to fourteen in that third quarter.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so yeah, they it really look like old
Speaker 3: guys who didn't want to play defense whatsoever. And I know,
Speaker 3: you know, when all of a sudden the other two
Speaker 3: and two, and it's not it's not absolutely horrible, but
Speaker 3: everybody just made them look bad. Especially as I mentioned this,
Speaker 3: the Spurs team kind of fun because they have all
Speaker 3: these athletes. Yea, they want to run ninety four feet, but.
Speaker 1: They're playing fast team yes quick, Yeah.
Speaker 3: And they have some vets like Yaka Perl and Jason
Speaker 3: Richardson that could be a good match for a Russell
Speaker 3: Westbrook trade that we'll get to a little bit later.
Speaker 3: I didn't see that coming from the shampshe Une article.
Speaker 1: But you can't break up the spurs of three and one.
Speaker 3: Ye can't break them up. And I don't don't know
Speaker 3: if Westbrook would fit on the San Antonio Spurs, But
Speaker 3: here we are Wolves. Yeah, as you said, the Anthony
Speaker 3: Edwards thing, he said after the game, I sucking back
Speaker 3: to backs, going back to last season. I can't play
Speaker 3: on the second half of a back to back. He
Speaker 3: was three or fifteen. But he also said that were
Speaker 3: a lot better, as you said yesterday, with a smaller
Speaker 3: lineup out there and not Rudy Gobert sort of closing
Speaker 3: the lane.
Speaker 2: And you had Carl Anthony Towns kind of calling out
Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards in postgame saying, you media think it's funny
Speaker 2: when he says he eats Popeyes, but I don't think
Speaker 2: it's funny that he eats Popeyes, basically calling him out
Speaker 2: for being out of shape. And I mean, the Timberwolves
Speaker 2: look slow. They were a team that played really fast
Speaker 2: last year. They had a whole bunch of turnovers with
Speaker 2: Jared Vanderbilt McDaniels trying to get in passing lanes and
Speaker 2: Patrick Beverley bringing a lot of intensity with losing Vanderbilt
Speaker 2: and Beverly, they seem to have lost a little bit
Speaker 2: of intensity. And certainly the Spurs were the faster team.
Speaker 2: Thirty seven assists for the Spurs, thirty nine assists for
Speaker 2: the Jazz. They're just able to get the ball moving,
Speaker 2: and the ball is moving a lot faster than the
Speaker 2: Timberwolves can right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you'd think with two monstrous seven footers kind
Speaker 3: of hanging around by the rim, you wouldn't have easy buckets,
Speaker 3: and they were by the rim, but just one extra
Speaker 3: pass to the three point line and these three pointers
Speaker 3: were so wide open for this burst. So did we
Speaker 3: underestimate the chemistry change of Rudy Gobert coming in and
Speaker 3: Patrick Beverley and Jared Vanderbilt going up. Maybe that was
Speaker 3: their first year where they got things together, and obviously
Speaker 3: it could pick up, but yeah, the chemistry of those
Speaker 3: guys in the locker room has just not bonded quite yet.
Speaker 1: And what happened in this Celtics Bulls game, because Boston
Speaker 1: were und like fifty points, it felt like and it
Speaker 1: was gonna be a wrap and then the Bulls just
Speaker 1: went on this insane run and then everybody was getting
Speaker 1: tossed left and right. Give me the Coles notes on
Speaker 1: this game.
Speaker 2: Goran drug it is good apparently Again, that's basically what
Speaker 2: it comes down to. He has been a huge pickup
Speaker 2: for the Bulls. Andre Drummond I thought was great in
Speaker 2: this one, but it was really the Bulls second unit
Speaker 2: plus Zach Lavine that came in and played really really fast.
Speaker 2: Drag Its was pushing in the pace and just that
Speaker 2: little bit smaller team kind of turned the tide with
Speaker 2: their athleticism. Vooch was also really really good. We'll get
Speaker 2: to him in a little bit here on his birthday,
Speaker 2: but he was just dominant inside. So this was probably
Speaker 2: the best the Bulls have looked to start this season.
Speaker 2: Levine's looking all right, So yeah, I was certainly surprised
Speaker 2: because it did not start off good. Tatum was cooking.
Speaker 2: I think he had fifteen in the first quarter. Texting
Speaker 2: back and forth with my friends. Unfortunately the Bulls aren't
Speaker 2: on this level. You know, the Celtics are just too good.
Speaker 2: And then by the second half it was the Bulls
Speaker 2: or Eastern Conference fa back right.
Speaker 1: And Grant Williams I know, got tossed for uh were
Speaker 1: hard to be accidental.
Speaker 2: Contact.
Speaker 1: If I'm being honest, I think with the referee, I
Speaker 1: don't think he was like aggressively going out. I think
Speaker 1: he was just like he was angry with the reaction
Speaker 1: and then bumped him. He's doesn't know where his body
Speaker 1: starts and ends, I guess, And I mean he made
Speaker 1: contact official, But I thought that.
Speaker 3: Was I thought it was accidental. And you also had
Speaker 3: Mark Smart, Mark Smart. Marcus Smart hammering a ball into
Speaker 3: an official's head a couple times a couple of times
Speaker 3: is a very strange one. Should we make a blooper
Speaker 3: video of that? Let us know. Let's put up a
Speaker 3: YouTube poll. Let us know. Should we make a blooper
Speaker 3: video of Marcus Smart? Blue Boopin's Is that the word
Speaker 3: for hitting referee?
Speaker 1: That's a double doink.
Speaker 3: It's a double doink? Yeah, alliteration. Let's let's see what
Speaker 3: the people say.
Speaker 1: All right? Our next one, more surprising one in three
Speaker 1: start the Miami Heat or the Philadelphia seventy six ers.
Speaker 1: Sixers got their first win of the season last night
Speaker 1: against the Pacers. They needed that or Doc Rivers was
Speaker 1: going to be gone, as we were talking about. And
Speaker 1: then the Heat they lost to the Raptors last night.
Speaker 1: That was a split there in South Beach. They beat
Speaker 1: the Raptors on Saturday night. They lose last night. But
Speaker 1: both of these teams that a lot of people were,
Speaker 1: of course high on in the Eastern Conference. One in three.
Speaker 1: What's the more surprising start?
Speaker 3: I think overall it's the Philadelphia seventy six ers, But
Speaker 3: we've talked so much about this Philasadelphia seventy six ers
Speaker 3: team can't do it anymore. I want to talk about
Speaker 3: the Heat. You're playing against a good team in a
Speaker 3: situation where you're playing two games against them, Yeah, it's hard,
Speaker 3: just weep. So it makes sense that the Raptors were
Speaker 3: able to win the Heat have lost to the Celtics
Speaker 3: and now the Raptors and two of their three losses,
Speaker 3: So that's kind of understandable, especially when you're playing against
Speaker 3: the defense like the Toronto Raptors. My goodness, the way
Speaker 3: they get out on the ball handler. Nick Nurse will
Speaker 3: never lay back on a ball handler. As head coach
Speaker 3: of the Raptors, he will never ever ever allow a
Speaker 3: guy to go into the paint. So he gets he
Speaker 3: gets his guys out on the ball handler, they make
Speaker 3: a pass, the other team does the Heat in this situation,
Speaker 3: and the Raptors are so good at scrambling and corraling
Speaker 3: and doubling and getting the ball out of that guy's hands.
Speaker 1: It's because their defense is their offense.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they can't score in the half court set, but
Speaker 1: man in transition and.
Speaker 2: They know it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, they're a transition team. But they are
Speaker 3: able to hold the mind Heat to fourteen points in
Speaker 3: the fourth quarter because they're just they're too much. They
Speaker 3: are too much. They are a vice script. That's what
Speaker 3: they do. And it was it was fun to watch
Speaker 3: from a defensive perspective. It wasn't a pretty game whatsoever.
Speaker 3: And the Raps they had get their points from from
Speaker 3: scrambling and Pascal Siak And even though he had a
Speaker 3: bad shooting night, was the best player on the floor
Speaker 3: because you can go to him right now. He is
Speaker 3: the go to guy for the Raps. He's had a
Speaker 3: great start to the season both offensively and defensively. One
Speaker 3: of the best few players in the league. I think
Speaker 3: he's just been so good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he's been spectacling big jumper last night to
Speaker 1: basically win the game there.
Speaker 3: For the Raptors.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Raptors are playing a lot of close games here,
Speaker 1: the three point win over the Calves. They had a
Speaker 1: four point loss to the Nets, a three point loss
Speaker 1: to the Heat. They came back in the second half
Speaker 1: there on Satday Knife but couldn't get it done. And
Speaker 1: now this eight point victory against all these Eastern Conference
Speaker 1: teams that are probably in their mix right Calves, Brooklyn, Miami.
Speaker 1: A lot of people have the Raptors sort of in
Speaker 1: that tier with these teams. So a big win there.
Speaker 1: But what have you thought of Miami Heat. I think
Speaker 1: they've been a weird team to start this season. I
Speaker 1: can't really.
Speaker 2: Tass is totally right. We've talked about the Sixers so
Speaker 2: much that we're kind of ignoring the fact that the
Speaker 2: Heat are really struggling out of the gate.
Speaker 3: Here.
Speaker 2: They're twenty seventh in offense and eighteenth in defense, and
Speaker 2: a lot of it comes down to Kyle Lowry ten
Speaker 2: four and four on the season, twenty eight from the field,
Speaker 2: twenty eight from three, doesn't look to have much burst
Speaker 2: right now, doesn't look to have much change in his
Speaker 2: fitness compared to last season. And the big thing for
Speaker 2: the Heat right now is they are not getting any
Speaker 2: three point attempts up there, twenty fifth in attempts, twenty
Speaker 2: first in percentage, adds up to twenty fourth in makes.
Speaker 2: They need three point shooting on this team. Jimmy can
Speaker 2: get to the hoop, he can get free throws. Bam
Speaker 2: will give you sixteen to twenty perhaps, but you look
Speaker 2: back at their most successful teams twenty twenty and twenty
Speaker 2: twenty two, they were top ten and threes finish top
Speaker 2: ten in offense in that twenty twenty one season fourteenth
Speaker 2: and Threes eighteenth in offense. There are a lot of
Speaker 2: limited players on Miami who need to make three pointers.
Speaker 2: It's like Hero can do stuff with the ball, Jimmy
Speaker 2: can do stuff.
Speaker 3: With the ball.
Speaker 2: You would like Lowrdy to be one of those guys,
Speaker 2: but everybody else has to have a shot created for him.
Speaker 2: And if they're not able to really puncture the defense,
Speaker 2: then they're not able to get these three pointers up.
Speaker 2: So it has been a bad start, certainly for the Heat,
Speaker 2: but they have played all playoff teams so far, so
Speaker 2: I mean, it is it's more surprising that the Sixers
Speaker 2: are one and three. They've got the worst loss here.
Speaker 2: They lost to the Spurs, the least impressive win beating
Speaker 2: the Pacers. But yeah, they are providing a little bit
Speaker 2: of cover I do think for Miami struggling out of
Speaker 2: the gate.
Speaker 1: Any other thoughts on Miami here early in the year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is always the question is when are they
Speaker 3: going to get into the lane and create for others?
Speaker 3: And Tyler Hero has been put into the starting lineup
Speaker 3: for that exact reason. PJ. Tucker gone, Tyler Hero doesn't
Speaker 3: play the same position. But they just need another ball
Speaker 3: handler to be beside Kyle Lowry. So they got to
Speaker 3: find that balance. So win, Tyler gets the ball and
Speaker 3: creates and win. Kyle Lowry does that and right now. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Tyler his three point shot off last night, two of nine,
Speaker 3: but they still get after it. It was still felt like
Speaker 3: a Miami heat game. And it is odd that they're
Speaker 3: still middle of the pack defensively. But they did a
Speaker 3: good job against the raps. They were they were fighting,
Speaker 3: scrapping and it shows in Tyler Hero's rebound number. He
Speaker 3: get fifteen boards. It's weird, Tyler Hero, I mean a
Speaker 3: lot of rebounds. You could tell Eric Spolster has gotten
Speaker 3: in his ear. You want to play, we need we
Speaker 3: need a gang rebounding type of team because this is
Speaker 3: I know that people people claim the caves benches thin.
Speaker 3: This this team's bench is now somewhat thin with Tyler
Speaker 3: Hero going into the starting line. So you know, like
Speaker 3: the Raps rely on their starters a lot, the Heat
Speaker 3: are going to do that.
Speaker 1: And it's not helping when two of your starters are
Speaker 1: not playing all that well. Lowry is absolutely garbage. That
Speaker 1: pains me to say as a die hard Raptors fan
Speaker 1: or a Lowry fan, I should say he has been
Speaker 1: so bad because the other thing is like Lowry could
Speaker 1: have bad games at least when you looked at the
Speaker 1: box score. But he's having an impact on the game.
Speaker 1: He's taking charge, he's you know, timely baskets timely. He's
Speaker 1: not really doing any of that that I saw. He
Speaker 1: finally picked up a charge last night because he knew
Speaker 1: Og was just gonna barrel into the rems like well,
Speaker 1: I've seen this before in practice. I'll just step here,
Speaker 1: but just having no impact and then bam at a
Speaker 1: bio is He's done next to nothing this season as well.
Speaker 1: I mean unless he is rolling to the rim. You
Speaker 1: have big dunk last night sort of like down the
Speaker 1: lane Crickets from him as well. So those the two
Speaker 1: starters that are like you know, been all stars are
Speaker 1: giving you nothing and it's left to Jimmy and the hero,
Speaker 1: you know, Allen the starting lineup. He's doing his best,
Speaker 1: but it's just a weird start. And yeah, you were
Speaker 1: talking about the three point shooting. Last night's game illustrated that,
Speaker 1: like the Raptors forty two to twenty four from three
Speaker 1: point range when you look at just the points, and
Speaker 1: then twenty seven to thirteen in fast breaks for the Raptors,
Speaker 1: and that was big part of the fourth quarter. They
Speaker 1: hit five threes, the Raps did, and that was enough
Speaker 1: to get it done and get the split there. Nice
Speaker 1: to have a Chris Bouchet back for the Raptors as well.
Speaker 1: Talk about a bench being bad. The Raptors had been that.
Speaker 1: Raptor's much have been non existent for three games. Bouchet
Speaker 1: comes back, you know. Now it's him and Precious there
Speaker 1: and they both had monster games, so maybe they'll be
Speaker 1: off and running here final one. I'm speaking of precious
Speaker 1: taste to your beef. Two guys that went for twenty
Speaker 1: plus rebounds last night, Precious Sachua with twenty two off
Speaker 1: the bench, or birthday boy Vucevic with twenty three Trey
Speaker 1: Taste your beef.
Speaker 2: Two beefs on one night, JD. I didn't send in
Speaker 2: a video, but that's still a lot of roast beef.
Speaker 2: I'm going with Vouch for three reasons. Number one, first
Speaker 2: and foremost, I'm a homer, no surprise, but also twenty
Speaker 2: one rebounds through three quarters he was beef and early
Speaker 2: ended up with twenty three. You gotta give a shout
Speaker 2: out to precious twenty two on a bench beef. That's
Speaker 2: super impressive to come out off off off the pine
Speaker 2: and beef up. But yeah, the birthday beef for Vouch,
Speaker 2: I think kind of pushes him over the edge. And
Speaker 2: the fact that he had ten offensive rebounds and was
Speaker 2: just honestly destroying the Celtics inside with the offensive rebounds,
Speaker 2: So you split it up nice, ten and thirteen. That's
Speaker 2: good to go. So yeah, give me Vouch. But I
Speaker 2: love to see a guy coming off the bench and
Speaker 2: just rebound as hard as possible for like thirty straight minute.
Speaker 2: That's pretty hilarious.
Speaker 1: That's revenge beef too. I guess his former team traded
Speaker 1: for Lowry.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Yeah, there's definitely a reason why he beefed in
Speaker 3: this particular game. Yeah, no, Scottie Barnes, which which hurt
Speaker 3: the Raps in the starting lineup. But they throw in
Speaker 3: Christian Colloco into the starting app him and Pascal Siakam
Speaker 3: the first two Cameroonians to start together in an NBA game.
Speaker 3: So very cool there, and uh, same team at least, yes,
Speaker 3: same team? Yeah, oh yes, what did I say.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just clarifying because it's not.
Speaker 3: The same game. Yeah, yeah, that's what I meant. You're right,
Speaker 3: You're totally right. Thanks, Thanks anyway, Uh, pressure to you.
Speaker 3: Yet there's a Raptor's contingent that wants him in the
Speaker 3: starting lineup. Nick Nurse says, no, you're coming off the bench, sir.
Speaker 3: Him and him and Chris Bouchet will work really well
Speaker 3: together when they get it going. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean that's what Nurse did last year. Those two
Speaker 1: guys would come in off the bench together a lot
Speaker 1: of the times, and it's like whoa, it's a bit
Speaker 1: of a game change at least from the up for
Speaker 1: the opposition, like these two, you know, boucheting away from
Speaker 1: corner threes. He had a couple of last night. Obviously,
Speaker 1: both guys can do work on the boards, decent defenders inside.
Speaker 1: Precious is like this was a monster game, but he
Speaker 1: has had a bad season up until last night. It
Speaker 1: was you know, I want to come up. I'm trying to.
Speaker 1: I feel like there's something to a nickname where his
Speaker 1: name is Precious. So there might be a Gollum and
Speaker 1: Schmiegel sort of Lord of the Rings angle. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: because I was watching that new show, but it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: Gollum would be what the bad version of Precious and
Speaker 1: Smigel would be the good version. It's like, I mean
Speaker 1: we didn't even know, right, Like.
Speaker 2: That's why you were asking jj who was Gollum back
Speaker 2: when he.
Speaker 1: Was I wanted to clarify that Gollum was a hobbit,
Speaker 1: like way back in the day, JD, you can confirm
Speaker 1: this right, and his name was Smigel.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm anyway that Loart of the Rings is not
Speaker 4: I'm not an expert.
Speaker 1: Have you watched the news series.
Speaker 5: I've seen a couple of y Yeah, I'm in it.
Speaker 1: Okay, you like the elves.
Speaker 5: I love the.
Speaker 3: Sounds like a good bagel shop to me. Golloman Schmiegel,
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, all right, So there you go, let's go,
Speaker 3: I'm bad idea.
Speaker 1: Anyway, there's something there. Let's figure it out with precious. Yes,
Speaker 1: he has his bad moments and he has great moments
Speaker 1: like last night with UH with all of those rebounds
Speaker 1: too great were those of the first big beefs of
Speaker 1: the year. Did we like to.
Speaker 2: Weekend beef? But to circle back, we asked the people,
Speaker 2: do you want a blooper video of Marcus Smart hitting
Speaker 2: a ref with a ball twice? I'm not very disrespectful
Speaker 2: to the wreath. One hit is fine.
Speaker 1: Let's just quickly touch on any of these other games
Speaker 1: already brought up hard In and Embid leading the Sixers
Speaker 1: past the Pacers for their first win. The Rockets handed
Speaker 1: the Jazz their first loss one, and the Knicks UH
Speaker 1: kept the magic win with the one fifteen one two victory.
Speaker 1: You guys want to touch on any of those any notes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's understandable that Jazz are gonna lose. Eventually, we'll
Speaker 3: get into a little beef. Speaking of beef's on the
Speaker 3: other side of the Houston Rockets had a little beef
Speaker 3: later on in the show. The Philadelphia seventy six Ers.
Speaker 3: Of course, they're gonna win a basketball game. It's fine.
Speaker 3: They got their first w the Knicks holding off the
Speaker 3: Magic team that I was watching this game and they
Speaker 3: felt like they were hot, felt like the Magic were
Speaker 3: gonna outperform this next team. So a good sign there,
Speaker 3: I think for the Knicks to have their big three
Speaker 3: perform twenty plus from Brunson, Barrett and Julius Randall. But
Speaker 3: in all honesty, I was just gawking at Paolo Boncira
Speaker 3: on the other side. I mean, for such a huge guy,
Speaker 3: he's got the side step jumper going in the NBA already.
Speaker 3: He can he can do what he wants, and he
Speaker 3: had eleven free throws in this game. He's on his
Speaker 3: way to superstart him. If you're getting double digit free
Speaker 3: is all ready to start your season. He's got the bag.
Speaker 3: But anyway, the Knicks, yeah, hold off, came out of
Speaker 3: the locker room and finished the job in the second half.
Speaker 2: This has been a good start to the next season.
Speaker 1: They lost to the Grizzlies in overtime in their opener
Speaker 1: and then have played two of the East likely you
Speaker 1: know sellar dwellers there in the Pistons and the Magic.
Speaker 1: But took care of business in both games and they
Speaker 1: the Knicks are playing with more pace and are grabbing
Speaker 1: a ton of offensive rebounds, like they're just getting way
Speaker 1: more shots than the other team. And I've been really impressed,
Speaker 1: and I know Fred Katz was tweeting about it last night.
Speaker 1: Julius Randall, who, as you know, he's gotten better at
Speaker 1: his decision making. It's not as sluggish. He's making quicker
Speaker 1: reads on the defense, but he's also just like running
Speaker 1: the floor and he's like getting easy baskets that way.
Speaker 1: And so you've have Bronson, who I was really high
Speaker 1: on joining this team and make him into like a
Speaker 1: real respectable team. Barrett struggled with a shot, but you
Speaker 1: know he's still giving you, like whatever, sixteen points per game.
Speaker 1: And then Randall's playing really really well. Those like the
Speaker 1: their quote unquote big three, good start to the season.
Speaker 3: Takes the pressure off r It takes the pressure Randal.
Speaker 3: You know, Randall knows when he's running down the floor, oh,
Speaker 3: things not going to go through me every single time. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: So I can put some effort into that.
Speaker 2: He looks like he's in great shape too, Randall, And
Speaker 2: he looks like he's in a good mental space, very happy,
Speaker 2: very smiley, on the court. There's definitely a lightness around
Speaker 2: the Knicks right now that wasn't there during the middle
Speaker 2: of last season. But you're exactly right. Paulo Mooncaro is
Speaker 2: the real deal. Four twenty point games to start his
Speaker 2: career pretty impressive. He's their go to guy right now.
Speaker 2: Franz has struggled a little bit out of the gate
Speaker 2: here and a nice game for Bull Bully. This guy's
Speaker 2: legitimately in the rotation right now for the Magic shout out.
Speaker 3: They have a thousand big guys and Bull Bull is
Speaker 3: earning his spot. He was able to go three point
Speaker 3: line to corner on defense, able to have some footwork
Speaker 3: on the defense. He had a euro step. It looks
Speaker 3: like a travel with Bull. Bull has a euro step
Speaker 3: because it's so slow. But legitimately in the rotation contributing.
Speaker 3: It's great.
Speaker 1: He's blocking guys jump shots. He's got a couple of
Speaker 1: those this season. Blocks last night, Yeah, and Clyke Fraser
Speaker 1: was loving him. Look at this guy. He was pumped
Speaker 1: and he wears the same number as him to pretend
Speaker 1: he was very ecstatic about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Good game from him, even though they have yet to find.
Speaker 3: A w and uh Yeah, it's perfect. They're going for
Speaker 3: that's that's what they do. They're they're looking for aliens,
Speaker 3: they're looking for victor when that's what they what they
Speaker 3: should be doing. But I hate to go play on
Speaker 3: words on the most meat baldi of meatballs. We're looking
Speaker 3: for which NBA player would be the most meat baldy?
Speaker 3: But meat bowl bowl is good, like it's a bowl
Speaker 3: of meatballs. Even though even though he's the thinnest guy,
Speaker 3: so it doesn't really Yeah, he doesn't really fit his persona,
Speaker 3: but you know that.
Speaker 2: Guy is the spaghetti.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take our first break and when we
Speaker 1: come back. We got a bunch of NBA headlines that
Speaker 1: tackle don't go anywhere. Okay, have some NBA headlines for
Speaker 1: you guys. In the first one here from the Athletic
Speaker 1: you ever heard of it?
Speaker 3: Love that I have a great sight.
Speaker 1: The Pelicans brandon Ingram enters concussion protocol. So no timetable
Speaker 1: for Ingram's return. I know he's out tonight they host
Speaker 1: the Dallas Mavericks, I think on TNT. But Ingram's gonna
Speaker 1: have to clear a series of steps to ensure he
Speaker 1: is symptom free before resuming basketball activities. Yeah, what do
Speaker 1: you think of this?
Speaker 2: Too bad for the Pelicans, talked about it yesterday, but
Speaker 2: they've got the MAVs, Sons, Clippers, Lakers, and Warriors the
Speaker 2: next two weeks. Don't know how long Brandon Ingram is
Speaker 2: going to be out, but reasonable that he misses a
Speaker 2: big chunk of those five games. They've also got Zion
Speaker 2: to worry about, who had a nasty fall. Not going
Speaker 2: to be a long lasting thing, it doesn't sound like,
Speaker 2: and Herb Jones tweaked his knee, which is probably the
Speaker 2: most concerning chance of recurring of these three injuries. So
Speaker 2: kind of, you know, three tough ones for the Pelicans,
Speaker 2: but they basically just need to survive with CJ. McCollum
Speaker 2: and Yonis valencionas pretty solid start to the season for them.
Speaker 2: You beat the Lakers, you steal one of those other
Speaker 2: four games, and you're living the life while having a
Speaker 2: couple of your best scores out of the lineup. So
Speaker 2: that's why you have a deep team. That's why you
Speaker 2: have so many people who can score with the ball
Speaker 2: in their hands, so that if one of them goes out,
Speaker 2: somebody else can step in and next man up. Mentality,
Speaker 2: But too bad because we just want to see Ingram
Speaker 2: and Zion on the court together and see what this
Speaker 2: Pelicans team can actually be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know you've been mentioning that brandon Ingram one
Speaker 3: of the most underrated players I think in the NBA.
Speaker 3: Absolutely the first two people that people talk about when
Speaker 3: they talk about the Pelicans. It's Zion obviously and CJ.
Speaker 3: McCollum is stealing the limelight. But as Trey said, they're
Speaker 3: so deep, none of this can spoil their start to
Speaker 3: the season. I don't think. Obviously brandon Ingram is out
Speaker 3: for a long time, but they're so good. You saw it.
Speaker 3: And when they came back against the Utah Jazz the
Speaker 3: other day without Zion, without brandon Ingram, they ha CJ
Speaker 3: as their lead guy and then just everybody working their
Speaker 3: ass off around him. A guy like Larry and Ann
Speaker 3: stepped in was throwing down, you know, doing tapping the
Speaker 3: top of his head because he was dunking on people. Well,
Speaker 3: they have a very deep roster when it comes down
Speaker 3: to it, so I don't think this can spoil the
Speaker 3: this bit of a Cinderella start to this season, and
Speaker 3: everybody's kind of Cinderella pick to go deep too. It's
Speaker 3: too early and no one's out for too long, so
Speaker 3: I'm not getting down quite yet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, b I for sure out tonight. Zion herb Jones
Speaker 1: are day to day, so we'll find out if they
Speaker 1: play tonight. I'm fascinating to see if they do, maybe
Speaker 1: one of them. Let's say Zion doesn't play. I don't
Speaker 1: know what their starting lineup will be. That'll be a
Speaker 1: fascinating decision there. From Willie Green, you know, CJ. McCollum
Speaker 1: obviously the point guard. I would assume Trey Murphy the
Speaker 1: third in there. This guy's on fire from deep to
Speaker 1: start the season nine to fifteen in his second year.
Speaker 1: I mean, who fills the herb Jones spot?
Speaker 3: That's yeah, that's what you know, is that Marshall?
Speaker 1: Is it Larry Nance, Jackson Hayes, if you have the
Speaker 1: two forward spots to fill in herb Jones and Zion
Speaker 1: or Ingram, however you want to look at it. He's
Speaker 1: got bodies lad names we just said, but you know
Speaker 1: it's not Zion and Bi and they're not coming off
Speaker 1: the bench to contribute that. So it gets pretty thin
Speaker 1: there in a hurry. But Valentu is your center. We'll
Speaker 1: see tonight, we'll see if they can stay in this
Speaker 1: game with the Dallas Mavericks and and take care of
Speaker 1: business at home, hopefully just Ingram's out for yeah, two
Speaker 1: three games, Yeah, something like that. That's I think fingers
Speaker 1: crossed on that and the other guys. It's nothing that serious,
Speaker 1: all right. Our next one's interesting comes from ESPN. Adam
Speaker 1: Silver says the NBA is monitoring serious tanking issue, and
Speaker 1: then within the article, this is from Baxter Holmes. He
Speaker 1: talked about the idea of relegation maybe in the NBA
Speaker 1: one date, well, he sort of did. He said that
Speaker 1: he loves the concept. He loves the idea of it.
Speaker 1: Maybe you know, you do something with the G League
Speaker 1: where the team in the NBA with the worst record,
Speaker 1: or maybe the two worst records, they go down to
Speaker 1: the G League, and the two best G League teams
Speaker 1: they come up to the NBA, like your European model
Speaker 1: there in soccer. But then he was like, eh, that
Speaker 1: would be destabilizing, So he like threw it out there.
Speaker 1: It was like, I'll never have We're not doing that,
Speaker 1: probably not. Do you think it will never happen?
Speaker 2: And he basically said it will never happen, because if
Speaker 2: we bring G League teams up, they won't be able
Speaker 2: to compete, and then they just go right back down
Speaker 2: and we've send the NBA teams up back together. This
Speaker 2: was a weird report to me. It's basically Adam Silver saying,
Speaker 2: we know there's going to be tanking, don't you do it.
Speaker 2: We don't have any way to stop you, but we
Speaker 2: will be watching. So I think all this means is
Speaker 2: that we could see some potential fines eventually during the
Speaker 2: season if teams are resting players when they shouldn't be,
Speaker 2: because otherwise there are no like measures the Silver can
Speaker 2: take this season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this specific season totally. I think he is throwing
Speaker 3: out the G League idea out there because he does
Speaker 3: want to come down on teams. It's totally true. I
Speaker 3: think there has to be some form of punishment. This
Speaker 3: is the most concerned he's been in several years. Last
Speaker 3: you know, the last couple of years, there hasn't been
Speaker 3: a lot of tanking teams. There hasn't been, but with
Speaker 3: this alien Victor wo Binyama coming out this season. He
Speaker 3: addressed it. Preseason, he said that through our lottery that
Speaker 3: could there's a way that teams could get him. I
Speaker 3: know many of our NBA teams are salivating at the
Speaker 3: notion of that, so he's very aware of that. And
Speaker 3: I'm not so sure though, if you were to relegate
Speaker 3: teams that the teams that came up would automatically go
Speaker 3: back down. We're watching the San Antonio Spurs run up
Speaker 3: and down in an eighty two game set. I don't
Speaker 3: think they'd be the worst teams. How many teams are
Speaker 3: we talking to I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think one or two. I think would be max.
Speaker 3: I mean the fact that they've built the G League
Speaker 3: up to be more of a direct minor league, to
Speaker 3: pay players more, to take players away from going to
Speaker 3: college instead. The j liagu's getting stronger. I think that's clear,
Speaker 3: and they've brought it closer to the NBA. I know
Speaker 3: he's just throwing sort of throwing that out there, but
Speaker 3: I think you throw it out there to leave a
Speaker 3: little vestige in people's mind that may one day, maybe
Speaker 3: one day, I know it's not. I don't know. He's
Speaker 3: getting closer and closer. We've got an in game tournament coming,
Speaker 3: We're getting closer and closer to the premier league. It's
Speaker 3: it's it's not, It's not unthinkable.
Speaker 1: I don't think he told the employees. By the way,
Speaker 1: this was all said at like him talking like to
Speaker 1: the Sun's employees, right, he said, quote you know from
Speaker 1: sources from Baxter Homes. It would so disrupt our business model,
Speaker 1: the idea of relegation. And even if you look, sorry,
Speaker 1: even if you took two teams up from the G League,
Speaker 1: they wouldn't be equipped to compete in the NBA. There's
Speaker 1: two ways to look at that part. Equipped. You can
Speaker 1: look at it like they get their asses handed to
Speaker 1: them because there are a bunch of G leaguers playing
Speaker 1: NBA guys. Maybe a sort of agreezy task like are
Speaker 1: we so sure?
Speaker 2: Like would they?
Speaker 1: But I also think he means literally equipped in terms
Speaker 1: of where they play, they're staffing. How does this go
Speaker 1: like in relegation in or when you come up in soccer? Right,
Speaker 1: they're like basically given tons of cash. I mean you're
Speaker 1: you know, to get up there. That's why they're playing
Speaker 1: for it, to get up into the big leagues. How
Speaker 1: would that work in the NBA? I mean whatever, That's
Speaker 1: why it's so far fetched it is. I mean, it
Speaker 1: would be cool. I'd love to see the Raptors nine
Speaker 1: oh five take on the Raptors in ad.
Speaker 3: Be cool if it'd be cool if they played well,
Speaker 3: but they don't. And you know, in previous All Star Games,
Speaker 3: we had a D League All Star Game and league
Speaker 3: sorry de League All Star team at Summer League. Excuse me,
Speaker 3: they get they get usually get beat by Summer League teams,
Speaker 3: not by NBA teams.
Speaker 1: So do you call it D League because Gatorady doesn't.
Speaker 3: Pay you, No, because they know I'm I'm I'm being
Speaker 3: precise here. I know I wasn't precise with the two
Speaker 3: Cameroonians playing on the same team together in the starting lineup,
Speaker 3: but I'm being precise here, And yeah, the D League
Speaker 3: All Stars would get hammered by Summer League teams.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so I think there's a better way to
Speaker 1: uh obviously not incentivized tanking. I mean they've tried to
Speaker 1: the play in Okay, the flattening of odds. So it's like,
Speaker 1: if you're the worst team, you don't get a twenty
Speaker 1: five percent chance, and now you're if you're one of
Speaker 1: the worst teams, you sort of share the same percentage.
Speaker 1: Like they have taken.
Speaker 2: Steps, steps have been taken.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think the right steps so far, and
Speaker 1: but maybe there's other things too. I know there's been
Speaker 1: a lot of talk about like teams that are out
Speaker 1: of the playoffs are suddenly like almost battling from their
Speaker 1: record then on to then almost win high picks, you know,
Speaker 1: and things like that of that nature. So probably not relegation,
Speaker 1: but I'm sure a lot of people have opinions on this.
Speaker 1: Would you love to see what's your favorite G League team?
Speaker 2: Ignite second favorite?
Speaker 1: What's your second favorite league? Balls?
Speaker 2: There you go. That's okay.
Speaker 1: Would be bumped to see them have a chance to
Speaker 1: get in.
Speaker 2: Oh, okay. I like the NBA players. I like the
Speaker 2: best players. Yeah, that's why they're all on the NBA.
Speaker 3: That's the biggest issue, the level of players.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think. Could there be something where like you,
Speaker 1: as a G League team get bump top because an
Speaker 1: NBA team gets bumped down, but you get to like
Speaker 1: keep like half their players or something like that.
Speaker 2: So you get to keep the best NBA players.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you just get the team. Now, It's like,
Speaker 1: where where's Windy City located? Are they just suburbs?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, Arlington Heights, I believe.
Speaker 1: Oh, I would love to go to Arlington Knights, said,
Speaker 1: no one ever.
Speaker 3: Wasn't so Leicester one the Premier League? Weren't they a
Speaker 3: relegated team once upon a time? I believe so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there are Cinderella stories for sure, But.
Speaker 3: Does it work in football? Because because they're just good
Speaker 3: enough to defend and they don't necessarily they're able to
Speaker 3: just hold off the better teams, the better players, the
Speaker 3: better offensive players, because it's different, you know, it's a
Speaker 3: different game. Is that what happens?
Speaker 2: There's like four goals?
Speaker 6: Yeah, like four players that matter.
Speaker 3: I get, well, I don't know, you know, I don't
Speaker 3: want to be ignorant about football. That's that's what it
Speaker 3: feels like. You can just hold off the talented strikers.
Speaker 3: If that's how it works. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I said Arlington Heights, but I meant to say. Hoffman estates,
Speaker 2: I know you were like, there's no way it was
Speaker 2: Why would they put it in Arley Heights, Hoffman estates,
Speaker 2: makes more so?
Speaker 1: Hoffman estates that sounds bougie regal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're going to the Hampton's almost.
Speaker 2: The Midwest Hampton's, the Midwest Hampton's And Hoffman estates.
Speaker 1: All right, our next headline here. The New York Post
Speaker 1: headline read Brooklyn Nets dead last in NBA season ticket
Speaker 1: sales as prices sore.
Speaker 3: Oh, the New York Posts gets you with the headline.
Speaker 2: They got you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Posts they buried the Nets in this article.
Speaker 3: They did, they did. But it doesn't really matter that
Speaker 3: they're dead last and season ticket sales what they're down? Yeah,
Speaker 3: about thirty percent from like if you read the article
Speaker 3: from eight to nine thousand and season ticket sales down
Speaker 3: to about five thousand. They did jack up prices on
Speaker 3: more than half the tickets. That's a that's a big reason,
Speaker 3: quite a bit. Apparently there is, you know, a drama
Speaker 3: within this team that probably hurts the season ticket sales.
Speaker 3: But they still are going to sell tickets because they
Speaker 3: rely more on same day tickets than a lot of
Speaker 3: other teams. You know, they were they were pretty far
Speaker 3: down in terms of season tickets last year, but they
Speaker 3: ended up tenth in attendance revenue because they rely on
Speaker 3: same day ticket sales. So this is it's listen, I
Speaker 3: think I have an aversion here to watching the Brooklyn Nets.
Speaker 3: You're not alone, I guess, no, absolutely no, It's it's
Speaker 3: something that's going on within the Brooklyn net fan base
Speaker 3: as well, But I think they'll still be middle of
Speaker 3: the pack type type of vibe. But as far as
Speaker 3: the roster goes, who the heck knows. If this watching,
Speaker 3: it doesn't feel like this roster will be the same
Speaker 3: come the end of the year, and then what happens
Speaker 3: to season ticket prices come next year. I think that
Speaker 3: they could go down even further, But as far as
Speaker 3: the books go, it's more of a headline article I think,
Speaker 3: and yeah, they are down that there's they're totally true,
Speaker 3: but they'll be middle of the pack. I think when
Speaker 3: it comes down.
Speaker 2: To yeah, I kind of feel the same way. If
Speaker 2: I were buying tickets for a Nets game, I would
Speaker 2: want to do it same day sales so I could
Speaker 2: know who is actually going to be in the lineup.
Speaker 2: More eye opening things to me is that the prices
Speaker 2: have gone up by more than fifty percent for the
Speaker 2: team's forty one home games, and they're up sixty six
Speaker 2: percent compared to the twenty nineteen season. That's too much.
Speaker 2: NBA tickets are too expensive, Like you talk about some
Speaker 2: fans being priced out in some arenas, It's not gonna
Speaker 2: be too long before all fans are priced out of
Speaker 2: all arenas. It's just too expensive. You throw on ticket
Speaker 2: fees for whatever service you're using, and you're spending two
Speaker 2: hundred dollars easily to go to a game with your
Speaker 2: family of four, Like before you even get into the
Speaker 2: into the arena, do anything. Then you go buy a
Speaker 2: four thousand dollars hot dog. So the NBA is gonna
Speaker 2: have a problem if ticket prices keep going like this.
Speaker 2: But it's honestly, ticket prices for every single thing you
Speaker 2: could go to, except for whatever reason, that Grizzlies versus
Speaker 2: NXT game seven bucks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I should have went to that one. Yeah, the
Speaker 3: Grizzlies are doing a good job of keeping their prices down.
Speaker 3: They have not priced out their fans. But yeah, looking
Speaker 3: at it now, the Nets are thirteenth in attendance.
Speaker 6: They've had sellouts already this year. Yeah, from same day sales,
Speaker 6: same day sales. Yeah, it's it's not worrying for them.
Speaker 6: But I totally agree. Yeah, the the fees get you.
Speaker 6: They get you, and it's not just that the price
Speaker 6: they're pricing out in so many buildings. Our hometown in Toronto,
Speaker 6: I probably wouldn't be here today if the season ticket
Speaker 6: prices were way higher. I mean I got in. You know,
Speaker 6: we're paying twenty five bucks a seat back then in
Speaker 6: two thousand and one, and I was uh.
Speaker 1: Up and yeah right, just to get in the building.
Speaker 3: It's it's ridiculously expensive. And shout out to those there's
Speaker 3: a company there that's in my Instagram ads that's trying
Speaker 3: to get rid of the ticket fees. It's it's an
Speaker 3: ad with three bros basically just saying what Ray just said.
Speaker 3: It's the guys just say ticket fees are too ridiculous.
Speaker 3: Oh I got this startup that gets rid of your
Speaker 3: ticket fees. I don't know what the brand is, not
Speaker 3: an come advertised on No Dunk, but because we believe
Speaker 3: in that product, because the ticket fees are ridiculously You just.
Speaker 1: Had me thinking about like how expensive it is to
Speaker 1: go to the game, and like, you know, you could
Speaker 1: just stay at home and watch it obviously on League
Speaker 1: Pass or whatever.
Speaker 2: What happened to VR?
Speaker 1: What did anybody talk about VR?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: Not the NBA integration with VR?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was apparently the next big thing. You're never
Speaker 1: even gonna have to go to the arena. We were
Speaker 1: all gonna be sitting court side. What's going on?
Speaker 3: I think I think they stopped. Yeah, so there was
Speaker 3: a weekly game that was only vry. Its possible, but
Speaker 3: I think maybe they stopped. You know, the pandemic stopped
Speaker 3: a lot of things. I think the pandemic may have
Speaker 3: stopped the VR production.
Speaker 1: You think that's when it would have popped off. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you think they're too busy working on legs in the
Speaker 1: metaverse over at Facebook, I thought.
Speaker 2: The legs were here, or the legs have arrived. I
Speaker 2: think you're right. Yeah, I think you're right.
Speaker 1: Uh, Zuckerberg got his legs first, of course.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Hey.
Speaker 1: Are you a vring NBA game? Somebody let me know
Speaker 1: in the stream, team or tweet at me at I'm
Speaker 1: legit serious. I felt like we were on the verge
Speaker 1: of like everybody doing it. You were dabbling.
Speaker 3: I was there. You dabbled court side. I was court sided.
Speaker 3: I was virtual popcorn. I was. I was absolutely loving
Speaker 3: that popcorn. I was going back for seconds. Thankfully it
Speaker 3: was a bucketless or a bottomless bucket. It was so good.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no calories A yeah, but man, I couldn't
Speaker 3: get enough of it. I'm glad it stopped. I'm glad
Speaker 3: we are stopped. Why because I like watching.
Speaker 2: They only had three things. They had You could eat
Speaker 2: air popcorn at an NBA arena. They had beat Saber
Speaker 2: you know where you got like and then your friend
Speaker 2: will always show you something nasty support. Yeah, that's the
Speaker 2: only three things playing. VR is still kicking, and we
Speaker 2: gotta see this. You gotta see this dancing to a
Speaker 2: music game and you're gonna have to You're gonna have
Speaker 2: to VR. They need something else besides that.
Speaker 3: I think it's the problem. I couldn't even get a
Speaker 3: cool game. I couldn't get beyond the lobby of a
Speaker 3: VR experience, Like where am I? Oh my goodness, it's uh,
Speaker 3: it's tough, it's tough to navigate. But then there's those
Speaker 3: uh this, what are you talking about? The skiing game?
Speaker 3: Is that what it is? I thought there was a
Speaker 3: skiing game where hit rings or something doc that was fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I got in Uh, I got in the ring once.
Speaker 1: That made my boxing debut. It was scary, man, scared.
Speaker 1: VR is good, but like, why are we talking about
Speaker 1: it when it comes to the NBA product?
Speaker 3: So what who are you battling?
Speaker 2: I don't know, just some fake dude it was huge, scary.
Speaker 3: No, mister s.
Speaker 1: He wouldn't touch gloves with me at the beginning. No
Speaker 1: sportsmanship in v r if y alright finale. This is
Speaker 1: from the Athletic Have you ever heard of it?
Speaker 3: Once? Uh Earlier in the show, as.
Speaker 1: The Lakers stumble early Russell Westbrook trade possibilities, lingers from Chams.
Speaker 1: He had a bunch on the Westbrook situation. Let me
Speaker 1: hit you with it. Over the summer, the Lakers reportedly
Speaker 1: discussed Westbrook trades with the likes of the Pacers, the Nets,
Speaker 1: the Jazz, even the Knicks, but they had been unwilling
Speaker 1: to part with both of their next trade eligible picks,
Speaker 1: that twenty seven pick, that twenty twenty nine first round pick.
Speaker 1: They just didn't want to put both in. Now, Schamps
Speaker 1: said they are willing to include one of those picks
Speaker 1: in a Westbrook trade. He reports that Charlotte's Terry Rozier
Speaker 1: emerged as a trade target for the Lakers in the offseason.
Speaker 1: Interest remains high and the Lakers, he brought this up earlier,
Speaker 1: tests preliminary discussions with the Spurs in recent weeks, showing
Speaker 1: interest in three and D wing Josh Richardson, do you
Speaker 1: see any potential Westbrook trades out there, Maybe that Chams
Speaker 1: is chucking our way or something else.
Speaker 3: Well, I do think the headline writer is bang on
Speaker 3: here with the athletic the Westbrook trades linger. I think
Speaker 3: I think the recipe here for the Lakers to start
Speaker 3: the season, although it's been ugly, bodes well for a
Speaker 3: potential trade for Russell Westbrook because number one, they're playing
Speaker 3: hard as I don't mean as far as Westbrook, the
Speaker 3: way Westbrook is playing, I don't think that really factors in.
Speaker 3: I don't think the other team that's going to trade
Speaker 3: for him particularly wants for that team to add to
Speaker 3: their lineup at all. The play. Yeah, they're doing it
Speaker 3: for the picks. And the fact that we see the
Speaker 3: Lakers here, Lebron and ad are balling. They look very
Speaker 3: very good. So are you gonna waste the season of
Speaker 3: Lebron's career? I think that bodes well to push Robelinka
Speaker 3: to make that move. Also, the best defense in the
Speaker 3: league as of yesterday, so they're playing hard. Things are
Speaker 3: not as dismal as they were last year, So I
Speaker 3: think that bodes well to eventually have Rob Clink could
Speaker 3: probably include that second pick, which seems to be the
Speaker 3: be all and end all for another team. Yeah, the
Speaker 3: talk was Miles Turner and Buddy Healed. But this talk
Speaker 3: the sneaking in here of Josh Richardson from the San
Speaker 3: Antonio Spurs and what about Yaka Purdle being added to
Speaker 3: that pack. Nice because put ad to that to the
Speaker 3: four and it's prim protector. If fits well, and Yaka
Speaker 3: Purdle is helping out the San Antonio Spurs, there's no doubt.
Speaker 3: But eventually I think he's not really on the timeline.
Speaker 3: With the Spurs. You got Victor Webbin Yama coming. They
Speaker 3: hope to take his center spot. Those two salaries combined
Speaker 3: nowhere close to West Westbrooks, so they'd have to do something.
Speaker 3: It only adds up to twenty in Westbrook, way over forty,
Speaker 3: so they have to be, you know, within ten. A
Speaker 3: third or fourth team would have to But but I
Speaker 3: liked that idea, and obviously Westbrook and pop not a
Speaker 3: good combination Westbrook Greg Popovich. But again, it would be
Speaker 3: more about the draft picks the Spurs want to build.
Speaker 3: I think those are vets essentially, and Josh Richardson and
Speaker 3: Yaka Pearl that would add to the Lakers, and maybe
Speaker 3: and maybe the Spurs and varciy Buford would do it
Speaker 3: for one.
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe, but it would be very hesitant
Speaker 1: if the framework of a trade is Pearl and Josh
Speaker 1: Richardson to give up two future first round picks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's why.
Speaker 1: I know you want to help your team and you
Speaker 1: want to help Lebronze chances to win. But do those
Speaker 1: guys really take them to it one?
Speaker 3: No, That's that's why I think the price is cheaper.
Speaker 3: And it wouldn't be two picks. It could be one.
Speaker 2: Trey what do you think you think that you get
Speaker 2: Doug McDermott as well, Yeah, he would help, He would help.
Speaker 2: This was the thing that really stuck out to me
Speaker 2: from this article. The Lakers appear determined to give the
Speaker 2: current roster a proper sample size of twenty to twenty
Speaker 2: five games and assess their needs. We know what their
Speaker 2: needs are. They need lasers, they need shooters. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: it's twenty to twenty five games too long?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: To wait? That feels like a long time, a quarter
Speaker 2: of the season. Your team ain't that different than it
Speaker 2: was last year. You needed the same things last year,
Speaker 2: So why so long?
Speaker 1: This because Rob Polinka wants to enjoy the holidays.
Speaker 3: That's a good point.
Speaker 1: That's what he's coming Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2: Yeah, loves it. He's going as Rob Low this year.
Speaker 2: He's got his NFL pop it on Low again. He
Speaker 2: won as the guy from Parks and Recreation that one
Speaker 2: year he went is the guy from Waynesboro.
Speaker 1: That was good.
Speaker 2: That was really good. He he loves Halloween, but he
Speaker 2: should love trading Russell Westbrook because right now it feels
Speaker 2: like it's gonna be Westbrook or they're gonna somehow find
Speaker 2: a way to blame this on Darvin Ham because you
Speaker 2: see his name appearing a lot in this article, and
Speaker 2: some talk about he said he was going to send
Speaker 2: Russell Westbrook to the bench. As we've seen, Russell Westbrook
Speaker 2: is not on the bench. He's still playing crunch time
Speaker 2: for the most part. He's still handling the ball in
Speaker 2: crunch time. That's gonna eventually come down on Darvin Ham
Speaker 2: if Russell Westbrook sticks around and plays the way he
Speaker 2: has been. I don't necessarily I'm with you, Skeets Pearl
Speaker 2: Richardson McDermott. They're probably not taking you over the edge,
Speaker 2: but you're just doing the exact same thing you did
Speaker 2: last year if you don't try something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, nice nice ad in of McDermott as well,
Speaker 3: because he immediately addresses something. Mean he had a four
Speaker 3: to three point game on the weekend, and he's not
Speaker 3: on the timeline of the Spurs as well. He's over thirty. Surprisingly.
Speaker 1: All right, those are the headlines. Let's get to pick
Speaker 1: them from last night. I cannot find a w I
Speaker 1: took Denver because I was like, well, Task is on fire,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna back him. They were favored by two
Speaker 1: and a half in Portland. Trey swerved because because like me,
Speaker 1: hates to see the same logo three times on a graphic.
Speaker 1: And it worked out for you. What a win for
Speaker 1: the Blazer. So Task four and one, you're two and three,
Speaker 1: I'm one and four. What's tonight's game? Only four games
Speaker 1: on tonight?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we got a great one. Golden State and Phoenix, Baby,
Speaker 3: why the heck not? That's on TNT as part of
Speaker 3: their double header. Golden State going into Phoenix. Phoenix favored
Speaker 3: by two and a half points. But Tray and I
Speaker 3: think Golden State will take care of business. They got
Speaker 3: two points to play with it and lose by two
Speaker 3: or win this game Skeets taking Phoenix to win by
Speaker 3: three or more. Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 1: I brought up VR. What's going on with jay Crowder too?
Speaker 1: Once he get moved? Who's training for jay Crowder? The
Speaker 1: Hawk going due the Bucks?
Speaker 3: I yeah, our man JD through this in our slack
Speaker 3: channel stream live NBA games in VR a la carte
Speaker 3: starting February twenty third.
Speaker 2: February, what do you run?
Speaker 1: Polinka?
Speaker 5: And then if you look, it's that article is from
Speaker 5: twenty seventeen. Proven they've given up on I think they've
Speaker 5: given that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they're like no, they're like, they're like the
Speaker 1: only guy talking about VR is this guy named Task
Speaker 1: on this podcast. He kept talking about the big popcorn.
Speaker 1: He didn't even care about the game.
Speaker 3: No, it was cool. I was getting virtual high fives. Listen,
Speaker 3: every company is spreading themselves thin here in twenty two
Speaker 3: even the NBA, a multi billion dollar enterprise, got it's
Speaker 3: gotta cut the fat somewhere. You know what's happening to
Speaker 3: her friends at Peloton, It's happening everywhere. You gotta cut.
Speaker 5: Speaking of circling back, our man Jerome through this in
Speaker 5: the Smile meat ball ball.
Speaker 1: Thank you Jerome. Honestly, that was no sarcasm. Thank you
Speaker 1: Jerome for this incredible graphic.
Speaker 4: It's the it's the calender on the head with the
Speaker 4: spaghetti hair and then the meatball as a ball.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Is it just just a chef's kiss. Awesome touch? Thank you?
Speaker 3: What do you see your meatball, spaghetti and a calender.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It'd be fun if somebody in the stream team of course,
Speaker 1: or listening or watching them, went out this year on
Speaker 1: Halloween dressed is exactly this. Yeah, and see if you
Speaker 1: get any reaction, try and find a No Dunks fan.
Speaker 1: That's what you would be doing.
Speaker 3: What are you.
Speaker 1: Great costume?
Speaker 3: This is my friend. Meet? Oh, nice to meet you.
Speaker 2: Meet.
Speaker 3: Why don't you meet meat bull? Bull? And his legs
Speaker 3: are thin. They kind of look like chopsticks as well.
Speaker 3: I like eating my pasta with chopsticks sometimes I never had, but.
Speaker 2: Why not really?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know noodles. You have a robin. I never
Speaker 3: thought it just just sits on there. It's lovely. Good
Speaker 3: for you, good for me, Thank you.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to tweet of the night.
Speaker 3: Tweet O the night.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: As I said a little bit earlier, there was a
Speaker 3: bit of a brew haha, A little bit of a
Speaker 3: suckus on the Houston Rockets bench last night. Oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: If you saw Jalen Green got into it with Jabari
Speaker 3: Smith Junior and the great Jasmine Watkins pointed this out.
Speaker 3: She was watching the game. You saw that Jabari Smith
Speaker 3: Junior win at Jalen Green a little beef right there.
Speaker 3: But Eric Gordon, Rockets teammate, wants nothing of it. He's
Speaker 3: just sitting there, just just watching it happen. And then
Speaker 3: she attached the photo, I do my work, I go.
Speaker 3: Eric Gordon's just saying I'm here to just just, you know,
Speaker 3: play the game and believe that I don't want none
Speaker 3: of this drama. Well done by Jasmine Watkins, who is
Speaker 3: a great follow, an absolute great follow on Twitter. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Eric Gordon doesn't want it, doesn't want to get into this.
Speaker 2: Smith like the fire.
Speaker 1: I like the fire. And Jalen Green man, he's I
Speaker 1: love him. It's gotta be a little difficult to play
Speaker 1: with as a teammate.
Speaker 3: Tell me more.
Speaker 1: Man, that guy is focused on his own shot and
Speaker 1: he takes a lot of shots where you're like, what
Speaker 1: are you doing?
Speaker 3: But this could have been good. This could have been good. Yes,
Speaker 3: they got the win. Jabari Smith's best as a rook
Speaker 3: by far. Yeah, twenty one and ninety. Yeah, I'd been
Speaker 3: struggling through his first three games. So yeah, their first
Speaker 3: one of the season. Yeah, beating an undefeated Utah Jazz team.
Speaker 3: This is good for them. Although, yeah, the Jalen Green thing,
Speaker 3: and Jalen.
Speaker 1: Had twenty five last night, shot a good percentage hit threes.
Speaker 1: He just he just when you watch I've watched a
Speaker 1: lot of rockets here early in the season as they
Speaker 1: are a fun team to watch. Yeah, and they obviously
Speaker 1: have had a lot of young talent on this team.
Speaker 1: And I really do love young Green. I think he's
Speaker 1: actually one of the coolest looking guys.
Speaker 3: In the league.
Speaker 2: Yeah, love his look.
Speaker 1: But he just comes down and just takes these shots. Really,
Speaker 1: whoa what he man? You guys can get a better
Speaker 1: shot than this. He just he checks himself.
Speaker 2: He doesn't.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a bucket getter, I get it. But
Speaker 1: a little two aggress of the times and maybe I
Speaker 1: don't know if that's what was going on. I don't
Speaker 1: know if that could have been a defensive laps.
Speaker 3: It's easy to read into that and say oh, shoot
Speaker 3: too much. Yeah, maybe maybe, but Eric Gordon sitting there,
Speaker 3: he's the type of guy that you want. The only
Speaker 3: guy really that's playing. That's a vet as far as
Speaker 3: I know. I mean, they're so young. Boba Maranovitch was
Speaker 3: hanging out there. You saw him and the getting getting
Speaker 3: between Jalen Green because he is the I mean they brought.
Speaker 3: They're happy to have him on the roster to be
Speaker 3: a peacemaker. But yeah, they they they lacked the veterans,
Speaker 3: that's for sure.
Speaker 1: A Joel here in the stream team points out, maybe
Speaker 1: Green wanted to show up for all the Filipinos in
Speaker 1: attendance last night. Yeah, I know he did something after
Speaker 1: the game where he went and did like a little,
Speaker 1: uh little hang session with them there on the floor.
Speaker 1: There's a lot a lot of Filipinos there, so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's heritage and I yeah, saw a lot of
Speaker 3: local restaurant owners. That was great. They they honored them.
Speaker 3: That was great. That great moment. I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: Excellent. All right, let's call it there, guys, knew no
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Speaker 3: I don't know. I would say we've played seven days already,
Speaker 3: that's a week.
Speaker 1: Could have done it today.
Speaker 3: You're saying, yeah, we'll do it tomorrow.
Speaker 1: We had all those great headlines that I found though.
Speaker 3: No, oh, you did a great job finding those headlines.
Speaker 3: Those are good topics. It was a nice, nice Monday.
Speaker 1: Today's Tuesday.
Speaker 3: No, but it was a Monday vault of topics.
Speaker 1: I'd say, all right until tomorrow, Clipper Broth.
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