1 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. How does a beautiful, vivacious, 2 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: sixteen year old little girl end up dead and affilled 3 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: there in Grand Prairie, Texas. No leads, no clues, just 4 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: a dead body. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. This is 5 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: where it all starts. Take a listen. A farmer is 6 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: driving along a sleepy, desolate country road near Mansfield, Texas, 7 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: and he sees something behind a barbed wire fence and 8 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: discovers it's the body of a teenage girl. Was unrecognizable. 9 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: The girl's face was obliterated. One bullet hole was in 10 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 1: her left cheek, another in her forehead. She had also 11 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: been hit so many times and so hard on the 12 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: left side of her head that part of the skull 13 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: above her ear, and this was a pretty tough part 14 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: of the skull was completely caved in. Wow. Here we're 15 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: hearing our friend John Linley from Crime Online dot Com 16 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: with me an all star panel to make sense of it. 17 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: First of all, high profile lawyer joining me out of 18 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: La Troy Slayton. You can find him at Troy Slayton. 19 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: Doctor Michael Donner, PhD, psychoanalyst, clinical and forensic psychologist and 20 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: author of Tearing the child apart, doctor Kendall Crown's Deputy 21 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: Chief Medical Examiner of Travis County. That's Austin, Texas and 22 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: lecturer University of Texas and of course forensic sciences. Justin Boardman, 23 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: former Special Victims Unit detective West Valley City author, I 24 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: was wrong, an investigator's battlecry for change within the Special 25 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: Victims Unit. You can find him ajut a Boardman dot com. 26 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: But first, Peter Meyer, author of Blind Love, The True 27 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: Story of the Texas Cadet murderer. Peter, thank you so 28 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: much for being with us, described the area for me 29 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: for this unidentified sixteen year old girl's body was found. 30 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 1: Certainly Nancy, nice to be here. Um. It was a 31 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: morning out in the middle of us what's what's scrub 32 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: brush and sage brush? And in an outskirt of Mansfield, Texas. 33 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: An architect named Gary Foster was getting up early in 34 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: the morning, took his pickup to drive to the entry 35 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 1: to his driveway and was surveying the fields, the newbody fields. 36 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: And he saw what looked like a person in a field. 37 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 1: And this is in the middle of nowhere, and this 38 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: is these are gravel roads for the most and closer 39 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: inspection he saw it was a young woman trying to 40 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: get that visual image with me. Peter Meyer, the author 41 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: of Blind Love true story that Texas Cadet and Murder, 42 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: and you can find it on Amazon where there are 43 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: fields as far as the eye can see. Certainly he 44 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: would have seen it the day before, which tells me 45 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: whatever happened happened overnight. And you're hearing Peter Meyer describe 46 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: gravel roads. A lot of people would call it out 47 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: in the middle of nowhere. I wouldn't since I came 48 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: from out in the middle of nowhere and it may 49 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: look like the middle of nowhere to a lot of people. 50 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: But when you live there and you know the ends 51 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: and the outs and the cuts, it all makes sense. 52 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: But who else would know of this location? Who would 53 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: be so daring to leave a body out in an 54 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: open field? And also straight to you? Doctor Kendall, Crown's 55 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: Deputy Chief medical examined Travis County. That's Austin. Did you 56 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 1: hear the way the injury was described Shot in the head, 57 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: I believe they said, on the side of the head, 58 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: which sounds like execution style, but then beaten horribly, so 59 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:36,679 Speaker 1: a very tough part of the skull was actually caved in. 60 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: She was murdered two times over. Yes, it sounds like 61 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: she was beaten with something and then shot in the head, 62 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: or shot in the head and then beaten with something 63 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: to obscure her identity. I'm just thinking about what you 64 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: just said, to obscure her identity. Well, you know what, 65 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 1: You're right, doctor Kendall Crowns, because that's exactly what it did. 66 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: Take a list in to our friend Jackie Howard. Crime 67 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: online detectives found no sign of struggle at the crime scene, 68 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: nor were there any marks on her hands or legs 69 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: that would show she had been restraint. In fact, the 70 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: investigation was filled with nose no indication that someone had 71 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: broken into her house, no evidence of a sexual assault. 72 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: What police did find was a pretty young girl shot 73 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: in the face. For investigators, the death was more like 74 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: an execution the result of rage. To doctor Michael Donner, PhD, 75 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 1: clinical forensics psychologist and author, Doctor Donner again, thank you 76 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: for being with us. By the way, you can find 77 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: him at Michael Bdonner dot com. Why would someone immediately 78 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: assume that this murder was one of rage, Well, it 79 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: sounds like the sort of thing that happens when somebody 80 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 1: loses complete control of themselves. It's not just one injury, 81 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: it's multiple injuries. And that seems like it could only 82 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,799 Speaker 1: come as a result of anger, and and is it correct? 83 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: Back to you, Peter Meyer author that she was fully 84 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: closed and there was no indication of a sex attack. 85 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:13,239 Speaker 1: Correct to Justin Boardman former Special Victims Unit Detective West 86 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: Valley City and author. You can find them at Justin 87 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: Boardman dot com. Justin When you come on the scene 88 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: as the detective Special Victims Unit and you see a 89 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: big open field, now see there's a big difference right there, 90 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: because you've got as opposed to in an apartment or 91 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: a house, you can get fingerprints, you can get blood spatter, 92 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: you can get drag marks across the carpet, you can 93 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: get all sorts of evidence. But in a field, for 94 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: Pete's say, what do you do? Wow, I start securing 95 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: to make sure nobody has been walking through, and then 96 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 1: the crime scene, and then I start getting processing and 97 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: brainstorming with other people on where there might be before 98 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: we get into the scene too far. We wouldn't have 99 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 1: gone right in because she was already deceased and it 100 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: was obvious, so we would actually do some of the 101 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: same sort of thoughts that you were just talking about, 102 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: looking for drag marks, looking for tire tracks, and retracing 103 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: the evidence that was there that people had dragged in 104 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: before our arrival, meaning just a person who found her Yes, 105 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: immediate question. I know you heard Peter Meyer say that 106 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: these were gravel roads between fields. Having grown up on 107 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: a red dirt road, I wonder, can you actually get 108 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: a tire mark off a gravel road, because I don't 109 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: see how you could, right, right, and maybe not, but 110 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: maybe there is a burm off the side of the 111 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: road that the vehicle have gone into, yes, or something 112 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: like that. You're absolutely right, and I guess at some 113 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:10,119 Speaker 1: point they would have had to turn off asphalt can't 114 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: be you know, all all gravel roads. And another thing, 115 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: what well you know when this happened. I don't know 116 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: that they could get any DNA off her body, but fibers, 117 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: and of course you know justin Bourban. The very first 118 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: case where fiber evidence was accepted was in the Atlanta 119 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: serial killing of multiple young boys across the city. Fiber 120 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: evidence leads cops back to the car trunk and the 121 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: home of the purp that fiber found on the body. 122 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: So that's one clue. Tire tracks. You're not going to 123 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: find fingerprints, you know, with a gunshot wound and a beating, 124 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: you're not probably not going to find the defense the 125 00:08:55,320 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 1: defendants blood. So at first cops are STYMIEDE what is 126 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: a sixteen year old girl's body doing out in the 127 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: middle of a field, shot in the face. Well, it 128 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: took a minute, but it happened. She was identified. Take 129 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: a listen to this. Adrian Jones was the All American 130 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: girl next door. She was blonde, smart, and athletic. She 131 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: took advanced honors courses and played soccer, but after a 132 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: knee injury, she decided to join the girls cross country 133 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: team to get in better shape. She excelled at the 134 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: two mile run. Jones also had a job. She worked 135 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: twenty hours a week at Golden Fried Chicken, a local 136 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: fast food restaurant. She manned the drive through window. Wow, 137 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: that sounds like so many people I grew up with, 138 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 1: working at school all day, trying to make the best grades, 139 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: trying to do after school activities, and holding down a 140 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: job here at Golden Fried Chicken, a local fast food restaurant, 141 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 1: manning the drive through. Crime stories with Nancy Grace. You know, 142 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: I'm suspicious. I'm curious, doctor Kendall Crowns. When you have 143 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: a body like this, if you want to do a 144 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: DNA comparison to find out who it is, you have 145 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: to have an idea of who it is to get 146 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: the known Say, let's just pretend I think that it's 147 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: let's just pick out Troy Slayton to be the dead body. 148 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: I think it's TROYE. Slayton. So I go get his 149 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: toothbrush at home and get a warrant and get his toothbrush. 150 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: Then I compare DNA from the dead body to the 151 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: DNA from toothbrush. Bam, it's Troy Slayton. But when you 152 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: don't have a known Troy Slayton, you don't know who 153 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: to compare it too. You can't make a DNA analysis. 154 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: Same thing for dental record, doctor Kendall Crowns. You have 155 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: to have an idea who it may be to get 156 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: that known identity dental records, right, Yeah, that's correct. Most 157 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: methods of identification have to have a presumptive idea of 158 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 1: who the individual is. The only one that you can 159 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: do is fingerprints and then hope that they're in the system. 160 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: That's the only time I've ever hoped somebody's a convicted 161 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: felon so their fingerprints will be in the system, doctor 162 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 1: crowns Well. In Texas, also, anybody that gets a driver's 163 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: license gets a thumb prints, so they can often be 164 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: identified quite readily that way. But that isn't the case 165 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: in the rest of the US. So when you have 166 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: an individual who isn't identified and you have no idea 167 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: who they are, there isn't a lot that can be done, 168 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: and you just have to hope that someone comes forward 169 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: saying that they're missing an individual, and then you can 170 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 1: do the testing and try and find out if it's them. 171 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: Otherwise they can remain unidentified for a very long time, 172 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: and they do. There are literally tens of thousands of 173 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: unidentified Jane Does and John Does waiting to be idead 174 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: across our country right now. To Peter Meyer, author of 175 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: Blind Love, True Story of Texas Cadet Murder, Peter Meyer, 176 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: in this case, how did detectives finally figure out this 177 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 1: was sixteen year old American girl next door Adrian Jones? Well, 178 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: because she was the American girl next door and came 179 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 1: from a nice, tight knit family in Grand Prairie. She 180 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: was she was missing, and that's how that's how they 181 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: put the family put the word out, Adrian Jones, their 182 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: daughter is missing, and so it didn't take long for 183 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: them to make the connection. I can't remember how many days, 184 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: but it wasn't It wasn't too long before the dead 185 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: body was identified by the kinds of ten the tests 186 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: you talked about, but they had a name, so so 187 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: it went quickly after that. Take a listen to our 188 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: friends a crime online. Just before bed, Adrian Jones received 189 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: a phone call. It's around ten pm. Her mother, Linda 190 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: has some quick words for her sixteen year old daughter, 191 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: as she told American Justice down the hallway and she 192 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: came back and I said, you get that phone put 193 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: down and you get to bed, old girl. And then 194 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: after that I went to bed and she'd said it 195 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 1: was David from cross Country and he's upset. Linda Jones 196 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: didn't recall hearing about a boy named David before, but 197 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: didn't think anything about it. After the phone call, the 198 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: two went to bed. So how many times has a 199 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: sixteen year old girl been told to get off the 200 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,959 Speaker 1: phone and go to bed. I have to tell two 201 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 1: thirteen year olds that every night they're playing Candy Crush 202 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: or whatever is they're playing online, and in the dark, 203 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: I can see the light from their phones, so I 204 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: know that there's still ought. I'm just imagining Adrian Jones's 205 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: mom telling her, Okay, get off the phone, go to bed. 206 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: She's on the phone with her boyfriend, and she does. 207 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: She gets off the phone and they go to bed. 208 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: Take a list of this. The next morning, Adrian's brother, Justin, 209 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 1: looks in on his sister. Then he knocks on his mom, 210 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 1: Linda's door. Justin knocked on my door and said, well, Mom, 211 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:10,839 Speaker 1: where's Adrian. I said, what do you mean, She's at school. 212 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: She says, well, her stuff's still here. And so that 213 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 1: was about on seven. So I went and checked and 214 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: her things were still there, and I said, what's going on. 215 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: As Linda Jones tells American Justice, she calls to school 216 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: and just told that Adrian didn't show up that day. 217 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: Linda Jones calls her husband and at I knew something 218 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: was really, really, really wrong. And I called my husband 219 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: up and I said, the Adrian's not here. We can't 220 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: find her anywhere. She's not at school, she's not at 221 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: her friends. We called everybody in her address book looking 222 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: for him, the Davis, especially, I was looking at every 223 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: David in her address book. After calling Adrian's friends and 224 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: their parents, the Joneses report their daughter missing to police. 225 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: So she's reported missing, and then wisely, the investigators make 226 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: the connection. Listen, it's not long after Adrian Jones is 227 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: reported missing that investigators were able to match their Jane 228 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: Dough found in the field with this missing girl. My 229 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: husband had to go with the detectives and identify her body. 230 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: I called on my family and I can still hear 231 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: their voices saying, no, you're wrong, and it was it 232 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: was assurance. She had been shot and murdered by somebody. 233 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: No one could figure out why Jones had indeed been 234 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: shot and murdered. The girl's face was nearly unrecognizable. One 235 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,239 Speaker 1: bullet hole in her left cheek, another in her forehead. 236 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: She had been hit so hard on the left side 237 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: of her head that part of the skull just above 238 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: her ear was crushed. She's been shot in the face 239 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: and bludgeon in the back of her head, and you 240 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: don't know why. What did this young, sixteen year old 241 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: little girl know or to do had caused she didn't 242 00:15:55,560 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: hate her. Notch Detroy Slayton, LA criminal defense attorney, no 243 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: stranger to a courtroom, Troy Slane, thank you for being 244 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: with us. Why is it detectives will first start in 245 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: a murder investigation with those closest to the victim. Well, 246 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: that's simple, Nancy. It's because those closest to the victim 247 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: are usually the ones involved in a murder or other 248 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: nefarious activities. And in this case, that's exactly what happened, 249 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: and so the police were right to start to talk 250 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: to the people on the track team, the people that 251 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: were closest to her at school, her friends, her associates, 252 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: and her family straight out to you, doctor Michael B. Donner. 253 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: Of course, that's just a statistic that typically the is 254 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: in the family, or it is a close associate, a neighbor, 255 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: a boyfriend in X. But statistics are not allowed in court. 256 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 1: None of that could come in as proof that X 257 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 1: did the deed. Question, do you, doctor Donner? On a 258 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: psychological level, why do you always look at those closest 259 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: to the victim? You know, not to be too much 260 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: of a cliche, but you always hurt the one you love. 261 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: That's where passions are most inflamed. That's where people's emotional 262 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: structure starts to break down. It's part of the explanation 263 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 1: for so much domestic violence. Intimacy breeds, contempt. Intimate breaks 264 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: down the barriers of normal society and the structures that 265 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: we used to contain our emotions. So the closer you feel, 266 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 1: the more powerful the emotions you feel, the more out 267 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: of control things can get to. Doctor Kendall Crowns, Deputy 268 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: Chief Medical Examiner, Travis County, Texas as Austin. Doctor Kendall Crowns, 269 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 1: We're hearing of two gunshot wounds, one to the cheek, 270 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: one to the side of the head, and multiple daunting 271 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 1: blows to the head. If I had to analyze it, 272 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 1: I would say the bullets were first the first one 273 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: to the cheek that didn't work, then a shot to 274 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: the head, then the beating. Now, there's really no way 275 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: to prove that, is there. No, there is not. The 276 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: only way you could say that the beating occurred after 277 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: the gunshot wounds is if the injuries appeared bloodless, as 278 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: if the individual had been done for a while, heart 279 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: wasn't beating, and then they crushed their head, So that 280 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: would be the only way to know that the gunshot 281 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: wounds occurred later, or potentially the other way around. The 282 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: head could have been caved in because they bludgeoned them 283 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 1: to death and then they shot them afterwards. And thinking 284 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 1: my scenario, Doctor Kraus, thinking it through, I think that 285 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: they would have beaten her then shot her because in 286 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: every other case I know of, For instance, let's just 287 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: talk about the Jodi Aris case. She stabbed victimin Travis 288 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: Alexander twenty seven to twenty nine times then shot him 289 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: in the head. It's almost as if the gunshot wounds 290 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: are a dramatic q de gras at the end of 291 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 1: the murder. Right, it's a way of making sure they're dead. 292 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: You just shoot them in the head. They might not 293 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: be breathing or moving, but that way you're guaranteeing the 294 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: Pew Children crime stories with Nancy Grace guys. Wisely, investigators 295 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 1: start with those closest to sixteen year old Adrian, starting 296 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: with her family. Take a listen to investigative reporter Lee Eken. 297 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 1: When Adrian couldn't be found, her parents remember the call 298 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: from the night before and started asking who's David. He 299 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: wasn't listed in her personal phone book. Linda Jones called 300 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: Lean Burke the cross country coach Advance Full High and 301 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: came up with the name David Graham. Graham was a 302 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: senior cross country athlete. He was a battalion commander at 303 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: the school's junior ROTC program. Detectives interviewed David but quickly 304 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: ruled him out. Wow, he's got a lot going on. 305 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: Junior ROTC, cross country athlete, battalion commander. But what more 306 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: do we know about David Graham? Listen? After seeing his 307 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: first air show, seven year old David Graham told his 308 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,239 Speaker 1: father he wanted to become an Air Force pilot. He 309 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,239 Speaker 1: never wavered from his dream. Graham kept his grades up 310 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: and joined Manfield High School's ROTC program and the track team. 311 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: He was a National Merit committed student and had garnered 312 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 1: the support of Congressman Martin Frost for his application to 313 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: the US Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs. Wow, straight 314 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: out to Peter Meyer, author of Blind Love, True Story 315 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: of the Texas Cadet and Murderer. Peter Meyer, this David 316 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: Graham sounds like the perfect package. Did you hear all that? Sure? Did? 317 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: Honor student had a congressman helping him get into the 318 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: Air Force Academy. Got into the Air Force Academy. That's 319 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: not easy. And since age seven years old, he knows 320 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: he wants to be an Air Force pilot exactly. He's 321 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: the perfect He's the perfect, perfect kid. And it's one 322 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 1: reason why, as your narrator just said, he was interviewed, 323 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 1: he was on the cross country team with Adrian, But 324 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 1: it never went farther than that because after there was 325 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 1: no evidence per se, so quickly the case turned fairly 326 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 1: quickly cold. But did you say he was a cadet, 327 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: a cadet candidate for the Air Force Academy, correct, that's right. Yeah, 328 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 1: and you certainly don't want to smear his reputation. But 329 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: there's another problem. Why is he on the phone at 330 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 1: ten o'clock at night with a sixteen year old little 331 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: girl when he's already got a girlfriend. Listen. Diane Zamora 332 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 1: was a high school senior in the nearby town of Crowley. 333 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: She was smart and determined to get into one of 334 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: the US military academies. She was a member of a 335 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: student council, the Key Club, national honor society, and the 336 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 1: Masters of the Universe, a science organization. She played flute 337 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: the marching band and ran on her high school's cross 338 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 1: country team. And she was also David Graham's girlfriend. Runt row. 339 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: I smell him as a trouble cooking right now here, 340 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: you got David Graham, superstar cadet candidate, Air Force Commit Academy. 341 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: Then you got Diane Zamora, high school senior nearby, next 342 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: town over, headed to the US military. No, no, she 343 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: was headed to the Naval Academy Student Council, Key Club, 344 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 1: National honor Society, Good Gravy. She plays the flute in 345 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 1: the marching band on the high school cross country team. 346 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: And here's the important part, also David Graham's girlfriend. Now 347 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: let me understand something, Peter Meyer, author of Blind Love, 348 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: these are they're all very young. Adrian is just sixteen 349 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: years old. David Graham is just seventeen at the time, 350 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: or eighteen, as is Diane Samora. This sounds like puppy love. 351 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,719 Speaker 1: Well it should sound like puppy love. But you've just 352 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: read this, You've just read the credentials of these kids 353 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: that they're bound for the academy. These are not your 354 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 1: regular high school kids. They're very they're exceptionally driven. They 355 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: met at the Civil Air Patrol unit, which David was 356 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: a member of. You already talked about his love of 357 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: flying from age seven, and for Diane, she ended up 358 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: there too because she was driven to get as many 359 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: pieces to her resume she could. So remember to imagine 360 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: sixteen and seventeen year old as I think kids working 361 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: on their quote resume, but about their relationship. Take listen 362 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: to our cut tien our friends at crime online. David 363 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: Graham and Diane Zamora met when their parents began dropping 364 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: them off at a small airfield south of Fort Worth 365 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: for weekly meetings of the Civil Air Patrol. That's an 366 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: Air Force auxiliary organization that teaches the basics of the 367 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: military life and leads search and rescue missions for down 368 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 1: to aircraft. But there was no romance between them. Diane 369 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: was driven, wanting to focus on her studies and plans 370 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: to become an astronaut. She kept a spiral notebook with 371 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 1: the list of achievements she needed to get a college 372 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: scholarship and kept an eye on her grades and always 373 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 1: her GPA. She also told family and friends she did 374 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: not want to have sex until she was married. She 375 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 1: wanted to make sure that a pregnancy didn't derail her dreams. 376 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,479 Speaker 1: At the beginning of her senior years, Zamora tells family 377 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: she has fallen for David Graham. Wow, it seems like 378 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: the perfect couple. So where does sixteen year old Adrian 379 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: Jones fit into that scenario? You know, I want to 380 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: go out to doctor Michael B. Donner or psychoanalyst joining us. 381 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 1: That's a lot of pressure to put on children, teens 382 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: that young. Here you've got Diane Zamora, as she was 383 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: just described, driven, who actually keeps a spiral notebook of 384 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 1: her achievements and at any given moment knows her exact 385 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: GPA because she wants to get into the Naval Academy 386 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 1: and become an astronaut. David Graham, I mean his CV. 387 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 1: I guess if you have a CV at that young 388 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: age is spectacular. I mean that seems like too much 389 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: on a team. Well, not only that, Nancy with they're 390 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: putting a lot of pressure on themselves. They're driven, they 391 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: know what they want, they go after it. They're organized, 392 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: they plan for things. They're willing to sacrifice a lot 393 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: to get what they want. You know, I want to 394 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: go to Peter Meyer, author of Blind Love. So Peter 395 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,719 Speaker 1: let me understand this. David Graham and Diane Samora about 396 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: incredibly driven. Once at the Naval Academy, once at the 397 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 1: Air Force Academy, they're in love, they're engaged, they plan 398 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: to get married. So how does he end up connecting 399 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: with sixteen year old Adrian Jones? It was they rode 400 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: the bus cross country team was the connection. I mean 401 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: they both went to the same high school, but Adrian 402 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: was a year behind David. But on the cross country team, 403 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: you have these classes urging, and when you go to 404 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: a cross country meets, you take a bus. So they 405 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: coming back from a cross country meet in the bus, 406 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: and you know, it is one of those little perfectly 407 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: normal thing and is just then is the DA would 408 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 1: give her a ride home and then the next thing 409 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: you know, um, they had a one night stand. I 410 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:26,719 Speaker 1: think that it's hard to think of justin boardman, a 411 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: little sixteen year old girl for having a so called 412 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: one night stand. She runs track at school, she works 413 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: at the chicken joint part time to make money. I 414 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: don't know, I think it's a little harsh to say 415 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 1: a teen girl like this has a quote one night stand. 416 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: Isn't that being really judgmental? On a young girl. Absolutely 417 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: that I apologize for that language. Oh you know what, 418 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: we all say it, Peter, we all say it. I 419 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 1: don't think anybody means any ill will by I mean, 420 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: I think that's really what it was. I think that 421 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 1: this guy seduced a sixteen year old girl and they 422 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: had sex one time. I mean, technically it is a 423 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: one night stand, but something about just saying that about 424 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: this little girl, she's just so innocent and good. It 425 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: just doesn't sing high and teenagers, well, you know, the 426 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: adolescence or they fall in love, they their their bodies 427 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: have changed. You know, that's we think about it a 428 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: little differently. The one night stand for the adult but 429 00:28:48,440 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: for teenagers is romance and love crime stories with Nancy Grace. 430 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: Long story short, the two meet and they do, in 431 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: fact have sex. Take a listen to our cut. Eleven. 432 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: About a month after they started dating, Diane tells her 433 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: parents that she and David are engaged, with plans to 434 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: get married after they both graduate from military academies. But 435 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: David has a secret. He cheated on Diane with Adrian Jones, 436 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: a fellow track team member. It was a one night stand. Ultimately, 437 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: he confesses and Diane feels betrayed, he says. Diane then 438 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: gave him an ultimatum. Hill Adrian, dear Lord in Heaven. 439 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: First of all, Peter Meyer, you're the author. You literally 440 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: wrote the book blind Love. Why in the world did 441 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: he confess want to get it off his chest and 442 00:29:55,760 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: make Diane's the moral feel terrible. I don't, No, I 443 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: really don't. I mean he davidkay Me just asked the 444 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: whole panel a question. Did anybody ever read Dear Abby? 445 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: I mean I read Dear Abbey growing up, and this 446 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: is what Dear Abby says. Dear Abbey said. Every time 447 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: somebody writes singing goes, oh, my best friend's husband's having 448 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: an affairs. Should I tell her? No, don't tell her, 449 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: It's none of your business. Or a woman writes, sin, 450 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: I had an affair. It's over. I'm sorr afraid I'm 451 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: gonna lose my husband. Should I tell him? Abby said no, 452 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: don't tell him. It makes you feel better to relieve 453 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: your conscious and your guilt. It ruins a marriage, and 454 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: it will ruin his thought of you forever. Just don't 455 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: do it again. For Pete's sake. Why in the world 456 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: what is it, doctor Donner? Why do people feel they 457 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: have to unload everything on their loved one. What is 458 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: it may still feel belt a apolge and it makes 459 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: the love one feel terrible. That's it your abbey every day. 460 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: It's it's a relief. You can get it. You can, 461 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: you know, unload your own sense of shame and guilt 462 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: and share it with someone else and beg for forgiveness 463 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: and say I'm sorry. It'll never happen again. But it 464 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: is selfish. People do it all the time, but it 465 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: is selfish and the pain to someone else. Now, the 466 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: one thing I do not like, among many things, is 467 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: anybody to start preaching at me. But it's my understanding 468 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: that when you ask for forgiveness, you're supposed to not 469 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: only ask for forgiveness, but change your ways. Otherwise, your 470 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: request for forgiveness its worth a hill of beans. Sometimes 471 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: it's just a way of hurting somebody another time. So 472 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: if you really want to make amends to the one 473 00:31:55,320 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: you love, except what you've done wrong, feel bad about it. 474 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: You should feel bad about it and don't do it again. 475 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: Now that's coming from me. Point out that psychological band 476 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: came from a broken home. Sorry, but David David his 477 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: parents were divorced. He was a kind of a loner. 478 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: So among he worked on his what was a kind 479 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: of a passiveness, and he worked very hard to overcome 480 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: that passiveness. Pardon me, doctor Donner, and by stepping out 481 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: of my territory here. But and and so we haven't 482 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: even talked about the guns and the military um propensities 483 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: that come along with that. So there was there was 484 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: a lot, but there was a lot of this business 485 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: of taking orders, David and being a bit passive. Um 486 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: uh as thus runs into your old notebook and this ultimatum, 487 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: kill her or lose me. Okay, what is that, doctor 488 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: Michael Donner? Kill her or lose me. That's easy, bye bye. 489 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: You know, not everybody really thinks about other people as 490 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: being completely human. Their their objects for their own personal gratification. 491 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 1: They're objects that get in their way that they are 492 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: objects that help them. But there but there's no real empathy. 493 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: Now I don't know Diane Zamora, so I can't speak 494 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: about her a specific. You know, we know that's the 495 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: kind of person that we run into where they just 496 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: don't care about other people. So, choyce light, let me 497 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 1: understand something. You're a veteran criminal defense attorney. I bet 498 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: you would have a field day with this if you're 499 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: representing Davey Graham. She told me to do it or 500 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: should break up. How's that coercion? Well it depends. But 501 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: you know they say, hell hath no fury? Oh here 502 00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: we go, and here you know, I can see you 503 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: prancing that banner around the courtroom till the cows come home. 504 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 1: Hell hath no fury like a woman scorn. Well, I 505 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: wonder who beat her skull in and pull the trigger? 506 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 1: You think Samoura did all that on her own, Well, 507 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,439 Speaker 1: it was Graham who said that it was Samoura who 508 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: took a dumbbell and smashed it into Adrian's head. And 509 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:31,320 Speaker 1: as she stumbled out of the car, it was Graham 510 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 1: who who pulled the trigger. And well, isn't it true 511 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: Troy Layton that for coercion to work, in other words, 512 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: they made me do it, you have to be under 513 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 1: threat of death or a third party has to be 514 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: under threat of death. Yes, you have to have what 515 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: a reasonable person would believe to be fear of imminent 516 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: mortal danger to yourself. So basically, Diane Samoura was holding 517 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 1: herself hostage. If you don't murder sixteen year old All 518 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: American girls scrubbed in Sunshine that you seduced one time. 519 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: If you don't kill her, I'm going to commit suicide 520 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:16,879 Speaker 1: or leave you. So she's basically holding herself hostage. As 521 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 1: ridiculous as that sounds, take a listen to this. Our 522 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 1: cut twelve, David Graham tells police he called Adrian and 523 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: said he wanted to see her. He picked her up 524 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 1: in a Master Protege owned by Diane's parents, with Samora 525 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: hiding in the hatchback. Adrian reclined the passengers seat. According 526 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: to David, while he held Adrian, Diane hit her in 527 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: the head with a dumbbell, but she didn't die. Adrian 528 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: managed to crawl through the window and ran off. David 529 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 1: says he grabbed a gun and followed. When Adrian fell, 530 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 1: Graham pulled the trigger. Hiding in the hatchback. This reeks 531 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 1: of pre meditation. Just In Boardman and former Special Victims 532 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,800 Speaker 1: Unit detective you can find them at Justin Boordman dot com. 533 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 1: They plan this whole thing out and they're victim a 534 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: sixteen year old little girl. Absolutely they did, and I 535 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: think gathering some of this evidence before we were talking 536 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 1: I would also be taking a look at some of 537 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: the grooming at one night stand like that just does 538 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:30,839 Speaker 1: not usually happen, just just of thee. Yeah, so you 539 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: think he was cajoling her or as you say, grooming 540 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 1: her before that occurred. Absolutely, and I think that would 541 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 1: be something to take a look at. They probably did, um, 542 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 1: I don't have the information on that, but I'm sorry 543 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 1: you were saying, Well, I'm thinking about how they lured 544 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 1: her into the car. While Diane Zamora throws caution to 545 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 1: the wind and highs in the hatchback of the vehicle 546 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:03,320 Speaker 1: and her boyfriend and David her fiance, David Graham, lures 547 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 1: the sixteen year old to the car all in order 548 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: to kill her. And guess what, they came that close 549 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 1: to getting away with it. Remember no sex attack, no DNA, 550 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: no fingerprints, no tire tracks. But you know what, The 551 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:25,280 Speaker 1: Constitution protects you from statements you make without a warrant 552 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 1: to police, but it doesn't protect you from yourself. Listen 553 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,760 Speaker 1: to our cut thirteen. The distance between Zamora and Graham 554 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,399 Speaker 1: grew as they pursued their military careers, until one night 555 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 1: when Zamora had a late Mike gabfest with her two roommates, 556 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: Mandy Gotch and Jennifer Mcarney. One of the girls mentioned 557 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 1: that Diane and David seems so in love that they 558 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: would do anything for each other, even kill. Diane paused 559 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,840 Speaker 1: and said, we have. The roommates were skeptical at first, 560 00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 1: but the next day told the Navy chaplain about the conversation. 561 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 1: The chaplain contacted a Navy attorney, who then began calling 562 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,760 Speaker 1: police departments in the Dallas Fort Worth area to ask 563 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: if they had an unsolved murder of a teenage girl. 564 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 1: On August twenty ninth, he contacted the Grand Prairie Police Department. 565 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: The next morning, detectives were on a flight to Annapolis. 566 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 1: Can you imagine that moment, all these girls in their 567 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,799 Speaker 1: pj's having a gab fest in their dorm room. Man, 568 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 1: you guys are so in wef I bet you kill 569 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 1: for each other. Then Zamora, in her dramatic manner, says, 570 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 1: we did, and the case bus wide open. You know what, 571 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 1: why would you blurt out a secret like that to 572 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 1: your dormi's Well, listen to this. Look, what did you 573 00:38:55,080 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 1: make him do that, Diane? Had you ever asked him 574 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,959 Speaker 1: to kill? Later in Jones for you, oh dear Lord 575 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 1: in heaven. The crying and the snodding and the no, no, 576 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 1: no choice Lake, and she could try out cross she 577 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 1: wants to right now. But the law is you may 578 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,760 Speaker 1: immediately regret the deed. But what matters is the intent 579 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 1: at the time of the act. You want to tell 580 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 1: me she didn't mean to kill when she's hiding in 581 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,759 Speaker 1: the hatchback, driving with her lover out there with a 582 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,799 Speaker 1: loaded gun to get the sixteen year old girl in 583 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 1: the car. It's too late for all that snodding. In 584 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 1: front of a jury, it would appear to be and 585 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 1: a skilled prosecutor like you, Nancy, would would be arguing 586 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 1: all these special circumstances. In this case, she was lying 587 00:39:55,560 --> 00:40:03,279 Speaker 1: in wait. There was premeditation, and she clearly showed an indifference, 588 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 1: a depraved indifference to human life. And so if if 589 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 1: I was a prosecutor in this case and took off 590 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:17,240 Speaker 1: my defense attorney hat, I'd be circue. I'd be seeking 591 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 1: the death penalty if it was available. Guys, more testimony. Listen, 592 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 1: she said, Um, this is a girl they had sex 593 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:33,400 Speaker 1: with and they had planned her murder. Could I have 594 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:37,400 Speaker 1: been planned murder? At first? They were planning to snap 595 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 1: her neck and drop the body the like they didn't 596 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 1: go as planned. Mhmm, snap her neck can drop a 597 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 1: body in the light. You're hearing Samora's former best friend 598 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 1: testifying at court that was Christina Mason. Well none of 599 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 1: that worked. Listen, we the jury find the defendant Diane 600 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,240 Speaker 1: Michelle's are more guilty of the offense with capital murder 601 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 1: as alleged indicton Soi and Monty Winship. It's not just 602 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:08,280 Speaker 1: as Zamora the mastermind of the murder. What about David 603 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 1: Graham who follows along like a little sheep murdering a 604 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 1: sixteen year old girl. May they wrought in hell? Nancy 605 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,280 Speaker 1: Grace grum Story signing off Goodbye friend,