WEBVTT - Mac Miller Interview

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<v Speaker 1>Real Key for real Celebrity Real joined the Breakfast Morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Ye, Charlomane the guy. We

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<v Speaker 1>are the breakfast class. We got a friend to the room.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know this guy no more. We haven't seen

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<v Speaker 1>him in the hell. Where the hell is this guy been?

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<v Speaker 1>My favorite white guy, mister Macmiller, Ladies, yell Miller, it's

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<v Speaker 1>my mic on. Yes, yeah, here sir. Yeah, he's having

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<v Speaker 1>a drink right now that I'm talking about drugs. Oh yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>no, no no, no, I mean yeah, no, no, no, no no, no, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good. I'm really good. He look good. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you look healthy. You don't look drugged out. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>drugged up. Because that's what we was hearing that mcmillier

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<v Speaker 1>has disappeared, because because because he was doing a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of drug I even texted you one day, I say,

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<v Speaker 1>what's up, man, you good? I'm hearing things. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a little battle. You mean, I did you know,

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<v Speaker 1>did some time? What was the drug of choice? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>making backsliding, No, there was, it was a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I was having you know, um having a

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<v Speaker 1>good time, I guess, but uh, enjoying the fruit to

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<v Speaker 1>your label. Yeah, but you know it's it was time

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<v Speaker 1>to clean my act up, get back to work. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just just accept my responsibilities and and and

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<v Speaker 1>who who I am and what I gotta do now.

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<v Speaker 1>The truth that you signed a ten million dollars deal

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<v Speaker 1>with Leo Cohen. No, not were going but yes and

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<v Speaker 1>ten million. No, it was no, it's you know how

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<v Speaker 1>the game. Yes, it's something over, it's something around there.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a I got a nice little chunk of change.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have went away and did a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>drugs too. You mean you gotta earn that money though.

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<v Speaker 1>Still I'm sure they were concerned. Oh yeah, but but

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<v Speaker 1>they were. But you know what they they kind of

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<v Speaker 1>came in a situation and we're very like, let me

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<v Speaker 1>take a sip of my drink out there, that remmy baby,

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<v Speaker 1>get that remy and you uh. They were like just

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, giving me time, like you know, um,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was cool. It wasn't. It wasn't a thing

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<v Speaker 1>like we need to we need to get him on

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<v Speaker 1>the right track right now, get him to rehab. It

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<v Speaker 1>was like it was like, you know, I had a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people around me who care about me and

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<v Speaker 1>I was good, Arte, no, no, I ain't gonna rehab.

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<v Speaker 1>Charlotte made texting me, you know a lot, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was like, yo, how are you doing? And I was

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm good. And we would talk a lot, just

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<v Speaker 1>like on some French and then he started getting romantic

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<v Speaker 1>with I was like, you need to chill, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just like just like hey babe, um bad. I'm like yo.

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<v Speaker 1>And what I said was I was like, wrong number

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like, no, it's not right, is it still? Mac?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna lie. He did tell me that you

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<v Speaker 1>did that once and he asked me what was out

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<v Speaker 1>with you? He did, I must have been drunk and

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<v Speaker 1>it must that didn't have nothing. But but I had to, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I had to just get my together and

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<v Speaker 1>go back to work. You know, I just was, I

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, I was. I was being dumb and

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<v Speaker 1>you were pretty young and you had a great wild

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<v Speaker 1>time your friends around you and everything. Sometimes you got

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<v Speaker 1>to refocus, exactly, And I think I think for me

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<v Speaker 1>it was a thing where like I just didn't feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I thought it was my right, which it is,

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<v Speaker 1>but I thought it was like my right as a

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<v Speaker 1>human to say I didn't want to do anything. So

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<v Speaker 1>like I was like, I don't feel like toyn I

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<v Speaker 1>don't feel like an album out. Was it that later?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it? Was it the la life? Well, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of space out there, so you know, I could

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<v Speaker 1>I had, I could disappear, and I was just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of just making a lot of music and I just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of got comfortable in this zone of like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna like, I don't need to bring any money in.

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<v Speaker 1>I got money, You had money, so you just wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to record, right, just record and just have fun with it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I realized that that I didn't put anything out,

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<v Speaker 1>and like and then I ran out of money, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, Scott storched myself and then, uh, hell,

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<v Speaker 1>how to go bro? I'm Jewish? Come on, you know

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<v Speaker 1>I got my money talks, I'm good, I got investments.

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<v Speaker 1>Um no. But so I just decided it was time

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<v Speaker 1>to come back. Did anything inspire you? Was it like

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<v Speaker 1>a day that you were listening to something and you

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<v Speaker 1>were like, you know what, I gotta get back in there.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like, you know, I think, uh. At first,

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<v Speaker 1>when I signed to a major, it was a little

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<v Speaker 1>scary for me because I was like, oh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like what if all my freedom's gone? Because he were

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<v Speaker 1>kind of against that world? Would you do that? I mistake?

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<v Speaker 1>You said, like you that's what you're kind of claim

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<v Speaker 1>to fame. But that independent audi and see that I

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<v Speaker 1>was one of this, you know, because it was it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's that time and and just like I can

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<v Speaker 1>do more from this position, not just for me, but

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<v Speaker 1>for those around me, and I can create, um, like

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<v Speaker 1>a real franchise and uh um yeah I'm me. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, you know, it was a little scary. You

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<v Speaker 1>see that that contract is so thick, bro, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure it with ten million reasons why. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't do it for the money. I do it

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<v Speaker 1>for the art. How much did Rostrom get? Did you

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<v Speaker 1>have to give them anything? No, it wasn't like that. No,

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<v Speaker 1>they've got a lot of money from the work we

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<v Speaker 1>did together. And then you've announced that you're going on

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<v Speaker 1>tour and you're doing smaller and more intimate venues. Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>before so there's like a album release, um shows um,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the real tour gets announced the day before

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<v Speaker 1>the album comes out. But um, yeah, which I love

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<v Speaker 1>Like that was the other thing is I like hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>done shows. I got back to doing shows. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh wow, like I'm still selling our venues. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>you look terrible that now that was I was horrible.

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<v Speaker 1>What was you do? You know what's so bad about that?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the guy that'd be like, no Mac Milliken rap, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I know? And I I mean jail with jay Z's

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<v Speaker 1>there too. Oh bro, you know dog? I was so

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<v Speaker 1>hot because well, this thing is like, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>you don't uh that song. It's not like that's a

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<v Speaker 1>one that I always perform, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was going over my verse, like I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>remember verse because I've had an issue with that in

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<v Speaker 1>the past, and especially when you're on a lot of drugs,

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<v Speaker 1>you always forget stuff. So like, you know, you're you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was kind of a mess. Um. So I get

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<v Speaker 1>there and you know, I'm like, okay, I think I'm ready,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, I'm super geeks. Everyone's being super cool. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and I come out on stage and I just completely

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<v Speaker 1>blow it. I got four bars out and for the

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<v Speaker 1>first four bars I thought I was killing. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like whoa. And then also I was like

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<v Speaker 1>and so me and him started freestyling and then I

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of messed up dipped and like I do

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<v Speaker 1>this thing when I mess up my lyrics, I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like just run away like a little kid. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I was like diad. I was like, weird right on stage.

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<v Speaker 1>No no, no, no, like like I'm a man, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>take it my whole thing, and like I'll stand on stage.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a show one time where I forgot every

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<v Speaker 1>single lyric besides the hook for the whole show. You

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<v Speaker 1>just stood on the stage and turned up with people,

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<v Speaker 1>where like most people would have just walked off the stage.

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<v Speaker 1>I just kicked it. Yeah, but like, but that's Jay

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<v Speaker 1>Electronic and said that on the stage. He was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he smoked a lot. I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>people hitting my phone like this the dude you'd be

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<v Speaker 1>talking about can wrap you. And then after him after

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<v Speaker 1>he goes So was that bad? Yeah, it was bad.

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<v Speaker 1>It was super bad. I was like, um, but I

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<v Speaker 1>remember I talked to I remember, like I was going

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<v Speaker 1>off stage and I Uh Electronic and I was like, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like because I take this shit really serious. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like to cup. It's not like I've just

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<v Speaker 1>been joking around. But I was like, Yo, I blew it.

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<v Speaker 1>I messed up man. He said yes, he said no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>he said he said there's no ups in hip hop. Bro.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah, he no, hard, but not for

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. So it was cool, but

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely blew a dope opportunity. Jay was definitely backstage. Definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>Jay was definitely like, he didn't invite you to the

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<v Speaker 1>title meeting after that. Nah. Nah, I've I've I've never

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<v Speaker 1>spoken to him. I've I've known. I know that he's

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<v Speaker 1>heard some stuff and liked it. I've known that. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna just start making you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I know he bumpd my album on the regular. Nah,

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<v Speaker 1>but uh no, I never I never got dropped up

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<v Speaker 1>with him. It's kind of good you felt back the

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<v Speaker 1>last couple of years because it was kind of hard

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<v Speaker 1>on white rappers in hip hop. Dude, that was it

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<v Speaker 1>was not it was not not type for white nig

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<v Speaker 1>got it bad. Yeah, I mean it's you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a it's a touchy subject, especially with everything else going

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<v Speaker 1>on in the world. I mean, it's like, who looks

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<v Speaker 1>like white rappers don't look like the tightest people when

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<v Speaker 1>there's all these horrible things going on the world. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, it doesn't look tight. Um, And

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't like a planned thing. It definitely wasn't like

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<v Speaker 1>a like I need to get back man, like that

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<v Speaker 1>definitely wasn't you know. That was like, do you ever

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<v Speaker 1>feel the need to speak out on social issues because

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<v Speaker 1>you are part of hip hop? Right, and people feel like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>if you know you're part of hip hoop, you should

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<v Speaker 1>speak out on what's going on with black people. Um oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean definitely with certain things. I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's a time when I'm when I'm younger nineteen eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen twenty twenty one, right, But I'm saying this is like,

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<v Speaker 1>up until now, I didn't really speak on race. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really speak on these issues just because my whole

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<v Speaker 1>idea was like, uh, I'm probably just scared of it, really,

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<v Speaker 1>but my whole idea was like, you know, I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to make music. I just want to make music.

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<v Speaker 1>And now I kind of like, like it did like

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of interviews on like white rappers and hip

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<v Speaker 1>hop and stuff like that. It's like you can't be

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<v Speaker 1>uncomfortable to talk about it. You can't be uncomfortable with

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<v Speaker 1>you white exactly exactly your experience in every interview. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean, yeah, you know, I'll be annoying DC. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you're my favorite white guy. But I mean I think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but that's fine, and I think I think

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite black guy. I don't know, you're definitely not

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<v Speaker 1>definitely not you, like my third favorite light skame b

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<v Speaker 1>and as the longest light skinned people I know, so

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<v Speaker 1>that you but no, it's like uh um yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>think at the time, as as someone in the in

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<v Speaker 1>the public and being young and like being a white

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<v Speaker 1>rapper is uh, that always comes with it. You're like,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to be a rapper man, but like

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<v Speaker 1>in reality, it's like whatever, I don't want to just

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<v Speaker 1>be considered a female rapper, right. Is that one of

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<v Speaker 1>the reasons you signed to a major because it was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like, you know, Mcamore, NIGGI blew up with

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<v Speaker 1>radio records and I remember talking to you once and

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<v Speaker 1>you was like you wanted to get radio records now,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like why, Yeah, I know, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that wasn't uh, that didn't happen. I mean, that wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>like a reason for I think I just wanted to see,

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<v Speaker 1>like I never had a real budget to do anything,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like I've never you were investing yourself basically

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<v Speaker 1>right now. I mean like like you know, like Rosham

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<v Speaker 1>definitely had put money down and and you used to

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<v Speaker 1>be the thing where if like if Rosham didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to pay for it, I paid for it, like I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't care and like, um, but like just really because

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<v Speaker 1>they're an independent company, so I didn't really have a

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<v Speaker 1>big budget to work with sopendent. Yeah, but I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, hey, you're just not as I'm not, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know what I'm saying. There's there's no there's

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<v Speaker 1>tears of rappers, and it's like Maclamore Macmiller. Everyone knows it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trash. He's nice, like you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't know how to me know me, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's for real, I don't know how to I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have the metaphors that he has. Everyone knows true. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>his name was supposed to be Macalmiller. Yeah, like you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, No, I didn't hear that. Yeah, he actually

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<v Speaker 1>and and and I told I told him, I was like, yo, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>like you got my name and he just slapped it

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<v Speaker 1>out of me. And I was like, my father, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, you know, I like you know, so

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really be saying anything bad about him. Sorry, bro.

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<v Speaker 1>So he was going to expose you too. He was like, Yo,

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<v Speaker 1>he got this ghost riding and Quentnin Miller do that. No, No, Miller.

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<v Speaker 1>I know Charlotte Maine be writing most of my hooks.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Angela really be writing the bark. I knew it,

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<v Speaker 1>and you knew it. I knew it. I knew That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's why I like sometimes people like that sounds kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like kind of like he likes dude, Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>actually wrote one hundred grandkids, right, you wrote that it's

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<v Speaker 1>time for mcmullletta settled down and have some kids. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not the grandkids. I mean you got a lot of children. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. It's dren some grandchildren. She's ready, right,

0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:37.440
<v Speaker 1>she needs you to get started and should be your

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<v Speaker 1>seeds all over right, you know, playing that record un grandkids, um,

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<v Speaker 1>who were like the first half of the record um

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<v Speaker 1>is about having grandchildren and and it's really not like

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<v Speaker 1>the heavy message behind the record. It's just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a little like stupid double on terms or where the

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<v Speaker 1>first half is about grandchildren and then the second half

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<v Speaker 1>is about first time I got one hundred grand It's

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<v Speaker 1>like not that tight. I mean I think that crazy

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<v Speaker 1>of like whoa, but like it's just my main thing

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<v Speaker 1>is I just wanted to come back with something that

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<v Speaker 1>was like confident and and like some fun. There's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>wrong being fun. There's nothing wrong with feeling yourself. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's the headspace I wanted to get into before I

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<v Speaker 1>came back. I didn't want to come back depressed. Did

0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:25.959
<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump ever sue you? No, he never did. I

0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:28.560
<v Speaker 1>don't think he really had a case, but he's been

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<v Speaker 1>sued for everything. But that's what I'm saying. That's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta be careful because I got like, you know,

0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:37.199
<v Speaker 1>I can't do I gets suped for everything. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>has to be discouraging. It feels like you, in particular

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<v Speaker 1>a mixtape unde hundred thousand dollars for for what a

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<v Speaker 1>free mixtape song because it was a sample, Yeah, which

0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:51.000
<v Speaker 1>is crazy because everybody does that. So yeah, to get

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<v Speaker 1>somebody a hunt, you have to give a law of

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<v Speaker 1>professor a hundrand. Right. No, look, I can't disclose any

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<v Speaker 1>information about amounts of money that you can hear it

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<v Speaker 1>on a hundred grandly got but I definitely got sued.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, look, you feel like he was he

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<v Speaker 1>was picked on because of that, because everybody does that. Man,

0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:07.880
<v Speaker 1>jay Z do it. I hadn't heard the Great Dre,

0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:10.840
<v Speaker 1>I didn't heard Kendrick. I didn't heard everybody do it. Um,

0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:13.440
<v Speaker 1>you know what it's for me, I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not looking super deep into it, like yeah, like dude,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think when that Lord for Next thing happened,

0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:24.160
<v Speaker 1>I think everyone was like whoo too. I mean, like

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<v Speaker 1>that really set it off. But like, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it is what it is. You know, It's like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not I'm not sitting here like man, I don't know, man,

0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:34.440
<v Speaker 1>why is everyone was suing me? They must not like me? Man,

0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:36.720
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. It's like money, right, and

0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:39.920
<v Speaker 1>I feel him. I want money too. Your album is

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<v Speaker 1>out to day right, No, the videos out today. I

0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:46.120
<v Speaker 1>seen Charlottagne doing this research when I walked in here

0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:48.880
<v Speaker 1>and I heard you up and watched the video. You

0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:53.400
<v Speaker 1>just put it out, excited, excited over mcmill until I

0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:55.040
<v Speaker 1>see what its heat is at. Right, You know, but

0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:57.680
<v Speaker 1>doesn't it look like a positive more positive place. Yes,

0:14:57.800 --> 0:14:59.120
<v Speaker 1>but I just want to make sure you good because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you'll come out a video. Didn't go back

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<v Speaker 1>to drugs. No, No, that's true. I mean it's been

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<v Speaker 1>a positive It's true though, But like, but that was

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<v Speaker 1>the thing is that was the other thing though, is

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<v Speaker 1>that is I started to see that that was like

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<v Speaker 1>that was my thing, you know, like like that's what

0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:19.960
<v Speaker 1>I was being what people were knowing me for. It

0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:23.320
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, Mac Miller smacked white boy, like the

0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:25.280
<v Speaker 1>dude that's always on drugs, and I was like, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not tight, you know what I mean? Like, especially like

0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:31.040
<v Speaker 1>I got a young fans like I'm not I don't

0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:32.680
<v Speaker 1>want to I don't want to act like that. That's

0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:34.520
<v Speaker 1>it's cool. And then it's just a pointing to your

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<v Speaker 1>fans when you go away for such a long period

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<v Speaker 1>of time and they're like, dude, what is it? Yeah,

0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:39.800
<v Speaker 1>and it's like we love you. What are you? You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying while you are And like like uh,

0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:48.880
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, I gonna say why are you hiding? Hiding?

0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:54.880
<v Speaker 1>But I stopped but uh but no, but um but

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, like a lot of a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of my friends that that make music and

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<v Speaker 1>also did a lot of drugs. If you know, quit

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<v Speaker 1>doing drugs, you know. I mean I think I think

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<v Speaker 1>you just get to a point where you're just like, okay,

0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:10.640
<v Speaker 1>this is just this is I'm doing too much to

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<v Speaker 1>write music though, was you Was that part of your

0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:15.160
<v Speaker 1>writing process back then? No? No, yeah, I used drugs

0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:18.480
<v Speaker 1>to do everything. Brush my teeth you know, still sound

0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:20.680
<v Speaker 1>the same, It still sound good. Because some people need

0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:22.800
<v Speaker 1>that for their lyrics. No, I mean I think I

0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:27.800
<v Speaker 1>think uh no, I mean I don't think I need it.

0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:31.400
<v Speaker 1>I think it's more about what headspace you're in. But

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, it was a like I have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people around me to care about me. What

0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:39.640
<v Speaker 1>did your mom say to you? Yeah, I mean she didn't.

0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:41.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean she didn't know. And then I hit her

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<v Speaker 1>one time and I was like, just told her the

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<v Speaker 1>truth because I'm crying. No, probably maybe a little cry

0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:50.400
<v Speaker 1>of the type call not like the ones we have.

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<v Speaker 1>It was different. No, it was like no, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I think I just kind of broke it down for everyone.

0:16:57.560 --> 0:16:59.760
<v Speaker 1>And then after I broke it down for everyone, like

0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:02.560
<v Speaker 1>it made it like it makes it that much more

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<v Speaker 1>difficult to come back because everyone's like, you're all right,

0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:08.119
<v Speaker 1>and then I'm like, yeah, man, I'm fine. That's you know,

0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:11.840
<v Speaker 1>like that for a while though, Yeah, but I'm not.

0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:14.240
<v Speaker 1>But this thing like I'm not like I'm not out here,

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<v Speaker 1>like like fucking never was that? You mean, like like

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<v Speaker 1>like I'll do it, like I'll raise somebody for crack,

0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:29.600
<v Speaker 1>but like I'm not gonna goodness um nah, but uh

0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:33.320
<v Speaker 1>but um nah, I'm what are gonna say? I'm not.

0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:36.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm not out here like completely like on some born

0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:39.320
<v Speaker 1>again Christian I don't touch a drink. I don't right now,

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<v Speaker 1>right exactly. Like I'm still having a good time with

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<v Speaker 1>my work progress, but I'm saying this is this is

0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:47.919
<v Speaker 1>this is progress. This is progress. But I'm just what

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<v Speaker 1>about your MTV show? Did you lose that? I didn't

0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:53.320
<v Speaker 1>lose it. I quit it because because it was time

0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:59.159
<v Speaker 1>to make room for Tiger. Everyone knows that they was

0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:00.920
<v Speaker 1>trying to get him to get White Rabb. I'm like, no,

0:18:01.000 --> 0:18:04.640
<v Speaker 1>you can't go get mackelmore. No, no riff Raff, give

0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:07.080
<v Speaker 1>it to Tiger. But no, like is having all this

0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:10.160
<v Speaker 1>controversy with people thinking that he sleeps with transgenders. Why

0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:13.320
<v Speaker 1>I opened up, back up, I gotta ask you, have

0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:17.679
<v Speaker 1>you ever been about the show show? Okay, well no,

0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:20.879
<v Speaker 1>I never, I've never. I've never been fooled by a

0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:24.760
<v Speaker 1>transgender not even almost, not even almost. O I know,

0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:28.800
<v Speaker 1>I know. So MTV two show No. Because I wanted

0:18:28.840 --> 0:18:33.159
<v Speaker 1>I didn't lose it. Um. I wanted to not go

0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:35.920
<v Speaker 1>down as a reality TV star. And I think that

0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:40.040
<v Speaker 1>it was like, that's such a big platform that like

0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:43.040
<v Speaker 1>that moves, it's at a rapid pace and it's on

0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:45.960
<v Speaker 1>repeat all the time, that people are always seeing you there.

0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:49.200
<v Speaker 1>That like I wanted to like step back and be like,

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<v Speaker 1>let me make sure the music stands front. And also

0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:56.600
<v Speaker 1>it was like my schedule was ridiculous. I would be

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<v Speaker 1>on tour, come back, have two days off, and I'd

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<v Speaker 1>be shooting both those days and I was like, this

0:19:00.960 --> 0:19:02.679
<v Speaker 1>is this is too much. That's supposed to be your

0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:05.120
<v Speaker 1>day off and right, and it was doing great too.

0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:07.000
<v Speaker 1>It was one of your own big one. You don't

0:19:07.040 --> 0:19:08.760
<v Speaker 1>help your people though, because I'm sure your people will.

0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:10.680
<v Speaker 1>They were they were halfway stars on this. Oh yeah,

0:19:10.720 --> 0:19:14.119
<v Speaker 1>they probably got more of a giant and because of it, right,

0:19:14.280 --> 0:19:17.080
<v Speaker 1>they do Okay, Actually, that night when you are hung out.

0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:18.880
<v Speaker 1>I was like, this has to be annoying because Mac

0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:21.639
<v Speaker 1>Miller when we had those drinks that night with you

0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:23.840
<v Speaker 1>and your friends. Yeah, they would not leave him alone

0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:27.040
<v Speaker 1>everywhere he went. Every it was very man. It's and

0:19:27.200 --> 0:19:29.840
<v Speaker 1>and you know, it's just and he didn't have security

0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:33.119
<v Speaker 1>that day, so that was really bad. Angelo. Yeah, I

0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:36.200
<v Speaker 1>was there. No, I have security, I have I have

0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:38.879
<v Speaker 1>I have I have security at certain things, but that

0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:41.440
<v Speaker 1>day in particular. Yeah, sometimes I just roll out because

0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:43.520
<v Speaker 1>I like I like to do that, Like I like

0:19:43.600 --> 0:19:46.280
<v Speaker 1>to just walk around and people be like, yo, you

0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:48.639
<v Speaker 1>have no security. And it would be like like like

0:19:48.720 --> 0:19:51.359
<v Speaker 1>little bit like little like little white kids going like

0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:53.080
<v Speaker 1>you don't need security. I was like, why I need

0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:55.240
<v Speaker 1>security for me? Like what do you mean? Like, No,

0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:57.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm good with the crew at now. I don't see

0:19:57.480 --> 0:20:01.280
<v Speaker 1>nothing with you today. Early. No, I'm everyone's doing that

0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:04.600
<v Speaker 1>thing like like the homies are are q Q was

0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:06.560
<v Speaker 1>in La. He just got back from doing a panel

0:20:07.280 --> 0:20:11.720
<v Speaker 1>at Obo Fest. Uh, Jimmy's hitch hiking across the country

0:20:11.800 --> 0:20:20.119
<v Speaker 1>right now. Jesus Christ, get back together, Mac everything. I'm

0:20:20.200 --> 0:20:22.600
<v Speaker 1>back together, man. Everyone. You know, everyone's on the soul

0:20:22.600 --> 0:20:26.040
<v Speaker 1>searching mission right now? What about big Dude Dave Dave?

0:20:26.200 --> 0:20:33.359
<v Speaker 1>They're killing it doing what Dave bouncing at the club.

0:20:33.359 --> 0:20:36.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be like, man, I mean, you're gonna be like, hell, yeah,

0:20:36.280 --> 0:20:37.600
<v Speaker 1>what's up, dame? How are you? And I'm gonna be

0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:40.199
<v Speaker 1>like Mac, Mac did this to you? Why is it

0:20:40.240 --> 0:20:44.320
<v Speaker 1>gotta be me? Because you man, Look, I'm not together.

0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:46.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm it's not Look. I just want everyone

0:20:46.880 --> 0:20:49.359
<v Speaker 1>to know. It's not that serious. You know, I'm straight.

0:20:50.200 --> 0:20:52.240
<v Speaker 1>It's like everyone you know what I mean, Well, happened

0:20:52.240 --> 0:20:54.040
<v Speaker 1>to the house. You still got the house at Big House. No,

0:20:54.480 --> 0:20:56.840
<v Speaker 1>that's a I moved out of there. That was what

0:20:56.840 --> 0:20:59.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. That wasn't good for me. You know, I

0:20:59.640 --> 0:21:01.280
<v Speaker 1>don't mean you know all that. That's the other thing

0:21:01.440 --> 0:21:04.160
<v Speaker 1>is by nature, I don't need all this excess. It

0:21:04.200 --> 0:21:06.280
<v Speaker 1>was kind of for everybody else to have fun. Yeah,

0:21:06.320 --> 0:21:08.199
<v Speaker 1>it was like a lot of fun. I didn't need

0:21:08.240 --> 0:21:10.240
<v Speaker 1>all I needed to do. You feel like it was

0:21:10.280 --> 0:21:14.199
<v Speaker 1>people leaching off you? Nah? No, no, no, no, you

0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:16.359
<v Speaker 1>were happy to be jan I was. I was. I

0:21:16.440 --> 0:21:18.720
<v Speaker 1>loved What What what am I gonna do with all

0:21:18.720 --> 0:21:24.320
<v Speaker 1>this money? Hey? Now I got no cash on me.

0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:29.200
<v Speaker 1>You see the way my bank counts set up? Nah,

0:21:29.240 --> 0:21:33.240
<v Speaker 1>but but nah man, I mean I I wanted it

0:21:33.280 --> 0:21:35.399
<v Speaker 1>was less about anything that had to do with a

0:21:35.520 --> 0:21:38.040
<v Speaker 1>dollar and more about that I wanted to kick it

0:21:38.080 --> 0:21:41.520
<v Speaker 1>with my people as much as possible. What are you?

0:21:41.760 --> 0:21:44.000
<v Speaker 1>What are you reading nowadays? That keeps you keeps your

0:21:44.080 --> 0:21:47.520
<v Speaker 1>your energy up because you know, if you if you

0:21:47.560 --> 0:21:50.960
<v Speaker 1>listen to McMillan, he's kind of a deep guy. Yeah,

0:21:51.040 --> 0:21:52.680
<v Speaker 1>you know when you listen to this music, well, that's

0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:55.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, this is just uh That's one thing though,

0:21:55.200 --> 0:21:59.119
<v Speaker 1>is that uh no, there's there's some moments on this album,

0:21:59.160 --> 0:22:02.920
<v Speaker 1>but it's it's uh, it's less it's less of like

0:22:03.080 --> 0:22:05.920
<v Speaker 1>asking all these questions, you know, and it's more of

0:22:06.000 --> 0:22:08.399
<v Speaker 1>like because the last albums like this kid who's like

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<v Speaker 1>going through life and ask all these questions to asking right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying very like like we're like

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<v Speaker 1>what are stars? Where the stars come from? Like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is a little more like uh like let

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<v Speaker 1>me just be direct and like I don't care, like

0:22:25.720 --> 0:22:27.639
<v Speaker 1>I don't, I don't, I don't. I'm not I'm not

0:22:27.680 --> 0:22:30.600
<v Speaker 1>tripping about what my places anymore. I'm not worried about

0:22:30.680 --> 0:22:34.920
<v Speaker 1>what's what what I can and can't do. Um, I know,

0:22:35.280 --> 0:22:38.400
<v Speaker 1>I know who I am and like I and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna wrap and have a good time. They're not

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<v Speaker 1>taking subliminal shots at anybody and eating for that. There's

0:22:44.920 --> 0:22:49.360
<v Speaker 1>no subliminals talked away real deep but nothing to anyone wants.

0:22:49.480 --> 0:22:51.359
<v Speaker 1>Kind of wrong with asking questions though, man, especially if

0:22:51.400 --> 0:22:53.320
<v Speaker 1>you look at for answers. No, for sure, for sure.

0:22:53.760 --> 0:22:56.080
<v Speaker 1>But I mean I think I think that that there's

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<v Speaker 1>a time and a place for every different kind of

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<v Speaker 1>identity in music, you know, I think that they're that that, Uh,

0:23:01.840 --> 0:23:04.840
<v Speaker 1>it's okay for artists to to jump around and and

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<v Speaker 1>not always be so consistent with the identity they carry

0:23:09.480 --> 0:23:12.360
<v Speaker 1>um in their music because humans are way more complex

0:23:12.400 --> 0:23:16.439
<v Speaker 1>than that. Absolutely, you're not You're not always this dude,

0:23:16.520 --> 0:23:18.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, like like you even take like Kendrick Kendrick

0:23:19.080 --> 0:23:21.760
<v Speaker 1>just put out that for free video, right and everyone's like, oh,

0:23:21.840 --> 0:23:24.080
<v Speaker 1>Kendrick has a sense of humor. It's like, yeah, Kendricks, SA,

0:23:24.160 --> 0:23:28.239
<v Speaker 1>what are you talking about? Like and it's like and

0:23:28.359 --> 0:23:32.359
<v Speaker 1>so it like for me, it's like, uh, like I

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<v Speaker 1>want to make sure I cover all the all the

0:23:36.119 --> 0:23:39.119
<v Speaker 1>all the different identities that come with being a human.

0:23:39.560 --> 0:23:41.520
<v Speaker 1>I think the key to that is just being yourself.

0:23:41.880 --> 0:23:44.679
<v Speaker 1>That's that's something I think POC did so well. You know,

0:23:44.800 --> 0:23:47.280
<v Speaker 1>even guys like nah, they oh, they're they're hypocrisis. One

0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:49.440
<v Speaker 1>minute they're talking about this, the next minute they're talking

0:23:49.440 --> 0:23:51.840
<v Speaker 1>about that. But no, they're just human exactly. And that's

0:23:51.960 --> 0:23:54.959
<v Speaker 1>that's such Like, that's like my main focus is like

0:23:55.040 --> 0:23:57.840
<v Speaker 1>just keeping it real myself and like and talking about

0:23:57.840 --> 0:24:00.640
<v Speaker 1>what I feel, because you see, you can go back

0:24:00.680 --> 0:24:03.320
<v Speaker 1>and you see yourself going through this wild emotional journey.

0:24:03.440 --> 0:24:05.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, you see yourself with moments of like, damn,

0:24:06.000 --> 0:24:09.040
<v Speaker 1>I was fool of self doubt there, and then damn

0:24:09.080 --> 0:24:12.400
<v Speaker 1>I was really feeling myself right there, and and there's

0:24:12.440 --> 0:24:13.960
<v Speaker 1>a place for all of that, you know, and you

0:24:14.000 --> 0:24:16.240
<v Speaker 1>don't have to you don't have to hide any part

0:24:16.280 --> 0:24:19.360
<v Speaker 1>of yourself. Um. And I think in music, a lot

0:24:19.359 --> 0:24:21.240
<v Speaker 1>of times people get tied up in in the in

0:24:21.280 --> 0:24:24.480
<v Speaker 1>the the wrestling aspect of it, you know, like like

0:24:24.520 --> 0:24:26.679
<v Speaker 1>the theme music and walking in and this is my

0:24:26.840 --> 0:24:29.680
<v Speaker 1>character and and I'm this guy, and it's like, nah, man,

0:24:29.960 --> 0:24:33.480
<v Speaker 1>you there's no way you're that every day in your life.

0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:35.879
<v Speaker 1>There's no way did you do you run. I think

0:24:35.920 --> 0:24:38.359
<v Speaker 1>you run from comparisons, like I remember MTV though we

0:24:38.440 --> 0:24:40.680
<v Speaker 1>want you to be the new Rob did right right?

0:24:41.280 --> 0:24:43.120
<v Speaker 1>I know what I'm saying, like, do you gotta understand

0:24:43.119 --> 0:24:46.359
<v Speaker 1>for someone who's for a kid who's trying to find

0:24:46.480 --> 0:24:50.119
<v Speaker 1>his identity, when someone is telling you you're the new this,

0:24:50.720 --> 0:24:54.440
<v Speaker 1>You're automatically gonna be offended. I'm saying, you're gonna be like,

0:24:54.480 --> 0:24:56.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm not the new Rob, Dude, I'm the first Matt Miller.

0:24:56.920 --> 0:24:59.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm not the new eminem On, the first Mate Miller,

0:24:59.040 --> 0:25:01.439
<v Speaker 1>Like you're always gonna do that, but now it's like, man, whatever,

0:25:01.720 --> 0:25:04.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm not like, I'm not tribbling. It's everything is about

0:25:05.040 --> 0:25:09.040
<v Speaker 1>if you're comfortable with self. All that is like people

0:25:09.040 --> 0:25:11.200
<v Speaker 1>can say whatever. So I did get comfortable with self

0:25:11.240 --> 0:25:15.359
<v Speaker 1>real quick. When you're scared of Kendrick's control. Verse scared,

0:25:15.640 --> 0:25:19.120
<v Speaker 1>no bro old, But no, no, no, not at all,

0:25:19.240 --> 0:25:21.200
<v Speaker 1>not at all. I was actually you know what I'm saying, like,

0:25:21.200 --> 0:25:26.480
<v Speaker 1>like no, it was so wild. How how I think

0:25:26.480 --> 0:25:29.560
<v Speaker 1>even he was surprised with how how much, how big

0:25:29.640 --> 0:25:32.399
<v Speaker 1>that was? Um, but nah, I would put you. He

0:25:32.440 --> 0:25:34.560
<v Speaker 1>mentioned you, so he put you right into that class

0:25:34.600 --> 0:25:38.960
<v Speaker 1>of like new New greats. Right, But but I'm saying, like,

0:25:39.119 --> 0:25:42.439
<v Speaker 1>you know whatever, like as he should? You know, um,

0:25:42.680 --> 0:25:44.920
<v Speaker 1>and like it was tight because Kendricks someone did I

0:25:44.960 --> 0:25:46.720
<v Speaker 1>look up to as an artist and and and it's

0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:49.800
<v Speaker 1>in respect as an artist, but like as he should,

0:25:50.080 --> 0:25:54.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm not like I'm not like I with myself. I'm out,

0:25:56.160 --> 0:26:01.600
<v Speaker 1>do you really put yourself? Do you d do you?

0:26:01.680 --> 0:26:04.240
<v Speaker 1>Are you really happy with what I'm saying. That's where

0:26:04.240 --> 0:26:06.080
<v Speaker 1>I had to get to you know what I'm saying.

0:26:06.119 --> 0:26:07.920
<v Speaker 1>I think there was a there was a long time

0:26:07.920 --> 0:26:11.880
<v Speaker 1>where like with someone who loves this music as much

0:26:11.880 --> 0:26:14.440
<v Speaker 1>as I do, it was difficult for me to know

0:26:14.560 --> 0:26:20.000
<v Speaker 1>like like the I like what I'm doing, my career paths,

0:26:20.119 --> 0:26:25.720
<v Speaker 1>what that makes my life? Like what what being a

0:26:25.760 --> 0:26:28.399
<v Speaker 1>white rapper means to my life as opposed to be

0:26:28.560 --> 0:26:30.440
<v Speaker 1>if I was black or Latino or something. You know

0:26:30.440 --> 0:26:33.120
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. Um, all these things were these demons

0:26:33.520 --> 0:26:38.240
<v Speaker 1>where now? And that caused me to like not with everything.

0:26:38.680 --> 0:26:42.439
<v Speaker 1>So now it's kind of like all right, dude, Like

0:26:42.520 --> 0:26:43.960
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of like looking in the mirror. It's like

0:26:44.000 --> 0:26:47.400
<v Speaker 1>stop being like a little bit like get up man,

0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:50.399
<v Speaker 1>right exactly and take it or else or else are

0:26:50.440 --> 0:26:52.879
<v Speaker 1>gonna give it away? And that's you don't want that,

0:26:52.960 --> 0:26:56.080
<v Speaker 1>you know what what I'm saying. So, now that you've moved,

0:26:56.080 --> 0:26:58.720
<v Speaker 1>what's different about your living arrangements? Like who's with you?

0:26:58.760 --> 0:27:01.919
<v Speaker 1>And can you tell me about Yeah, he moved out

0:27:01.960 --> 0:27:04.639
<v Speaker 1>of the house. Yeah I moved. Like so I have

0:27:04.680 --> 0:27:06.120
<v Speaker 1>a spot in La in the spot in New York,

0:27:06.359 --> 0:27:09.960
<v Speaker 1>spin La, I live with my brother. Um, you might

0:27:09.960 --> 0:27:11.679
<v Speaker 1>have win broke for real and ain't telling us if

0:27:11.720 --> 0:27:13.399
<v Speaker 1>he has in New York. You know you gotta have

0:27:13.440 --> 0:27:16.000
<v Speaker 1>money to me here, but might love with his cousin

0:27:16.000 --> 0:27:17.240
<v Speaker 1>in New York. Who you live with in New York?

0:27:17.680 --> 0:27:22.000
<v Speaker 1>With my girl? Oh mac Man, chill out, bro. You

0:27:22.040 --> 0:27:24.440
<v Speaker 1>know you don't see you don't see his wedding ring.

0:27:24.640 --> 0:27:27.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to hear you got married? No, hell no,

0:27:27.800 --> 0:27:36.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm crazy now. No not your girl seven years bro?

0:27:36.400 --> 0:27:40.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's what's up? Man? Hey man, that's dope. Um

0:27:40.240 --> 0:27:45.840
<v Speaker 1>she's black and white mixed okay, so um no, but uh,

0:27:46.080 --> 0:27:48.480
<v Speaker 1>my living arrangement is different. It's chiller, it's not it's

0:27:48.560 --> 0:27:51.640
<v Speaker 1>not this wild this wild life all the time, which

0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:55.879
<v Speaker 1>was something uh, David Bowie, remember my dad told me this.

0:27:55.920 --> 0:27:57.240
<v Speaker 1>My Dad. I was like, you know, I was watching

0:27:57.240 --> 0:28:01.159
<v Speaker 1>this David Bowie documentary and uh, he went through a

0:28:01.240 --> 0:28:04.400
<v Speaker 1>huge cocaine phase and then he moved to New York

0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:07.720
<v Speaker 1>and got a really nice apartment and just hung out

0:28:07.760 --> 0:28:11.960
<v Speaker 1>and lived. I was like, yeah, Dad, you know, but

0:28:12.359 --> 0:28:16.040
<v Speaker 1>what the hell was the point of that? In New York?

0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:18.800
<v Speaker 1>You switch up your environment. It's cocaine in New York.

0:28:19.359 --> 0:28:23.280
<v Speaker 1>For sure, there is god. He just can't have no positivity. No, No,

0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:25.920
<v Speaker 1>it's okay. I feel trying to see what my guy's

0:28:25.920 --> 0:28:27.919
<v Speaker 1>head is in. No, but of course there's everything in

0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:30.720
<v Speaker 1>New York. You cannot let a location have power over you.

0:28:31.000 --> 0:28:33.879
<v Speaker 1>But but it can't run from yourself. You can't. Just

0:28:33.880 --> 0:28:36.960
<v Speaker 1>wanted to change. I wanted to get another spot. It's

0:28:36.960 --> 0:28:39.720
<v Speaker 1>not that serious. I just wanted to environment. I felt

0:28:39.720 --> 0:28:41.800
<v Speaker 1>like picking up and moving. I could just sign a major.

0:28:42.200 --> 0:28:45.080
<v Speaker 1>I can be by coastal, you know what I mean?

0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:51.280
<v Speaker 1>If you bisexual, I can be by coastal. But who

0:28:51.320 --> 0:28:58.239
<v Speaker 1>do you prefer? Me? But on on on a on

0:28:58.240 --> 0:29:00.640
<v Speaker 1>a lighter topic, though, I gotta say this. So I

0:29:00.680 --> 0:29:04.480
<v Speaker 1>was at Starbucks on my way here, and the person

0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:09.640
<v Speaker 1>behind the register came at me crazy girl, girl, girl,

0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:13.160
<v Speaker 1>so I came. I came and and I was like, hey,

0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:15.240
<v Speaker 1>like coming to get a cold brew. I need to

0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:18.479
<v Speaker 1>wake up. It's early. And she was like, I know

0:29:18.600 --> 0:29:21.960
<v Speaker 1>your mac something. I seen you on. I've seen you

0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:27.960
<v Speaker 1>on I've seen you on a wild Now you was trash.

0:29:28.840 --> 0:29:31.080
<v Speaker 1>He said you had She said you had no cuts.

0:29:31.200 --> 0:29:33.719
<v Speaker 1>They was cutting you. I was like, I was like,

0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:37.400
<v Speaker 1>I was like, what do you At first, I was like,

0:29:37.200 --> 0:29:39.160
<v Speaker 1>I was like, damn, can I get a I said

0:29:39.240 --> 0:29:41.959
<v Speaker 1>to vent venty cold brews? No. I was like, I

0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:45.320
<v Speaker 1>was like, uh, damn. Really, I was like I thought

0:29:45.480 --> 0:29:48.240
<v Speaker 1>I killed it. It was pretty good. She's like, nah,

0:29:48.560 --> 0:29:51.080
<v Speaker 1>you can't kill it. They killed you. You had no jokes.

0:29:51.520 --> 0:29:54.160
<v Speaker 1>I was like, this is crazy. Supposed to treat you

0:29:54.160 --> 0:29:57.000
<v Speaker 1>like start making these public appearances, taking the more serious yeah,

0:29:57.080 --> 0:29:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Like like like, but like what if that really messed

0:29:59.920 --> 0:30:01.880
<v Speaker 1>up up my whole coming to the show today? Like

0:30:01.880 --> 0:30:04.400
<v Speaker 1>what if I walked in like, man, where are you

0:30:04.440 --> 0:30:07.040
<v Speaker 1>back on wine? Now? No? I was tight, I killed

0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:09.880
<v Speaker 1>Nick Cannon. You gotta respect everybody's feel It's just an opinion.

0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:11.720
<v Speaker 1>I thing. No, No, No, I was funny as hell.

0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:14.480
<v Speaker 1>I was like amazing. I was like, Yo, this she's

0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:18.360
<v Speaker 1>just amazing. She just trashed me at seven forty five

0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:21.000
<v Speaker 1>in the morning from behind Starbucks, like just killed me

0:30:21.040 --> 0:30:23.800
<v Speaker 1>and I had nothing to say. You gotta expect the honesty, though, Yeah,

0:30:23.960 --> 0:30:26.080
<v Speaker 1>I was like I was like, I was like, it's like,

0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:27.960
<v Speaker 1>she's like, yeah, you got you got killed you with

0:30:28.080 --> 0:30:31.680
<v Speaker 1>no jokes. I was like, yeah, well, you know it's harder.

0:30:34.600 --> 0:30:36.520
<v Speaker 1>Just check out my new video, you know what I mean?

0:30:36.840 --> 0:30:39.320
<v Speaker 1>Can I just get that coffee? Thank you God bless

0:30:39.360 --> 0:30:41.120
<v Speaker 1>you know. I remember the rule of ten man. Three

0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:42.560
<v Speaker 1>people are gonna like it, through people are not gonna

0:30:42.600 --> 0:30:44.000
<v Speaker 1>like it, and four people are not even gonna care,

0:30:44.160 --> 0:30:46.280
<v Speaker 1>right exactly, And that's fine. Just say it to my face,

0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:48.800
<v Speaker 1>not on Twitter, right. But I'm I'm dude. Like That's

0:30:48.800 --> 0:30:51.560
<v Speaker 1>the other thing is like I'm cool with whatever, Like

0:30:51.600 --> 0:30:54.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm really like, like you got to separate the difference

0:30:55.000 --> 0:30:57.440
<v Speaker 1>between what's real and was not. Like I have a life,

0:30:57.560 --> 0:30:59.960
<v Speaker 1>and that's what was a big part of these paths

0:31:00.320 --> 0:31:03.720
<v Speaker 1>this recent times was like living, like getting back to

0:31:03.800 --> 0:31:06.280
<v Speaker 1>being a human being, going out, like getting to drink

0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:12.480
<v Speaker 1>with friends, go like caring about that, going taking a trip,

0:31:13.440 --> 0:31:15.680
<v Speaker 1>exercise a little bit, you know what I'm saying. So

0:31:15.720 --> 0:31:18.200
<v Speaker 1>you feel like you lost yourself in the industry. Basically, well,

0:31:18.200 --> 0:31:20.880
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I got too tired because I was

0:31:21.000 --> 0:31:23.920
<v Speaker 1>maturing as as as somebody in this and I think

0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:28.760
<v Speaker 1>I was, uh you you you look at uh you

0:31:28.760 --> 0:31:31.200
<v Speaker 1>you just kind of look at this too seriously seriously

0:31:31.240 --> 0:31:33.360
<v Speaker 1>And when you're worried about your legacy too much, what

0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:35.040
<v Speaker 1>am I going to leave behind? How am I gonna

0:31:35.040 --> 0:31:38.480
<v Speaker 1>be remembered? All that? Man like you got today. Absolutely

0:31:38.520 --> 0:31:40.360
<v Speaker 1>enjoyed the moment exactly. I mean, you do got to

0:31:40.360 --> 0:31:41.720
<v Speaker 1>think for the future because everything you do in your

0:31:41.760 --> 0:31:43.440
<v Speaker 1>life today does affect what happens in your life to

0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:45.680
<v Speaker 1>the moment. Yeah, but you still gotta enjoy the moment, right,

0:31:45.720 --> 0:31:47.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, just don't be don't be an idiot, and

0:31:47.680 --> 0:31:50.320
<v Speaker 1>trust your gut, trust yourself. So it's the new album

0:31:50.360 --> 0:31:54.720
<v Speaker 1>gonna be on some like commercial record label. No, hell no,

0:31:54.880 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 1>I would not do that fun silly stuff. No, no, no,

0:31:57.960 --> 0:32:02.440
<v Speaker 1>hell no. No. They still you to make your own decisions. Yeah,

0:32:02.520 --> 0:32:04.160
<v Speaker 1>that was that was a big thing. There's no like

0:32:04.280 --> 0:32:08.719
<v Speaker 1>executive producer, there's no an or, there's no there were

0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:11.880
<v Speaker 1>labels that I got that vibe from that. They're like, yeah,

0:32:11.880 --> 0:32:14.120
<v Speaker 1>you should come here, because we got the best producers

0:32:14.120 --> 0:32:17.040
<v Speaker 1>and da da da da. And it's like but the

0:32:17.040 --> 0:32:20.320
<v Speaker 1>warner was really like, look, whatever you did so far

0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:24.040
<v Speaker 1>working you do you whenever you want to give us

0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:26.960
<v Speaker 1>a radio single, let us know. You know, it's like okay,

0:32:26.960 --> 0:32:30.200
<v Speaker 1>word sounds good. Yeah, So like you know the album

0:32:30.320 --> 0:32:33.320
<v Speaker 1>that I would I would never sacrifice making the most

0:32:33.360 --> 0:32:37.959
<v Speaker 1>important thing to me is making a good album. Good Am, septembrayteenth.

0:32:38.000 --> 0:32:39.360
<v Speaker 1>And that's what I said in the meeting. I said,

0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:42.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't like if I sell singles or not sell singles. Whatever,

0:32:42.280 --> 0:32:44.080
<v Speaker 1>I want to sell albums. That's what I want to

0:32:44.120 --> 0:32:47.480
<v Speaker 1>move albums. Why good Am? Is it actually good morning? Yeah?

0:32:47.520 --> 0:32:50.760
<v Speaker 1>It's like it's yeah. No. Idea actually helped me come

0:32:50.880 --> 0:32:53.719
<v Speaker 1>up with the because I didn't like good Morning as

0:32:53.720 --> 0:32:55.520
<v Speaker 1>a title, but I liked it as a concept, like

0:32:55.680 --> 0:32:58.000
<v Speaker 1>because I wanted the album to be like that that

0:32:58.640 --> 0:33:00.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean, like like we'll talk came about

0:33:00.480 --> 0:33:02.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's like the breath of fresh air. Like

0:33:02.400 --> 0:33:04.760
<v Speaker 1>you it's like you walk out the door and you

0:33:05.480 --> 0:33:10.400
<v Speaker 1>go to Starbucks, you get trash. But what I'm saying

0:33:10.480 --> 0:33:13.680
<v Speaker 1>is I wanted I wanted that feeling um um of

0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:18.280
<v Speaker 1>like just just something refreshing and uh and I was

0:33:18.400 --> 0:33:20.800
<v Speaker 1>talking to no Idea and Studious playing some records. I

0:33:20.840 --> 0:33:23.160
<v Speaker 1>was like, yeah, it's called good morning, but I don't

0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:25.120
<v Speaker 1>like that title. It's too simple. He's just like called

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<v Speaker 1>good am. He was like okay. I was like okay,

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, now I'm executive. He's like, now let me now.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, but that that was dope that he did that.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, he's still cool with Q. Yeah, que someone

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<v Speaker 1>who also like ques qu Is. Q is a clean

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<v Speaker 1>like Q is. You're talking about school with Q, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's clean. He's like he works out all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't do drugs, he doesn't drink really, he stopped

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<v Speaker 1>smoking as much. Like he's like really focused right now.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just beautiful. That's the kind of association you want

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<v Speaker 1>to be herod right exactly. You know, you know, hey, hey, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>good Day the eighteenth is to day middle ladies and gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 1>We appreciate. That's a good influence, great influence. Hey man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd rather than drink and do drugs. It's the breakfast clubs,

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<v Speaker 1>Black a mellow