Speaker 1: Real Key for real Celebrity Real joined the Breakfast Morning.
Speaker 1: Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Ye, Charlomane the guy. We
Speaker 1: are the breakfast class. We got a friend to the room.
Speaker 1: I don't know this guy no more. We haven't seen
Speaker 1: him in the hell. Where the hell is this guy been?
Speaker 1: My favorite white guy, mister Macmiller, Ladies, yell Miller, it's
Speaker 1: my mic on. Yes, yeah, here sir. Yeah, he's having
Speaker 1: a drink right now that I'm talking about drugs. Oh yeah, no,
Speaker 1: no, no no, no, I mean yeah, no, no, no, no no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm really good. He look good. You know,
Speaker 1: you look healthy. You don't look drugged out. I'm not
Speaker 1: drugged up. Because that's what we was hearing that mcmillier
Speaker 1: has disappeared, because because because he was doing a lot
Speaker 1: of drug I even texted you one day, I say,
Speaker 1: what's up, man, you good? I'm hearing things. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I had a little battle. You mean, I did you know,
Speaker 1: did some time? What was the drug of choice? I'm
Speaker 1: making backsliding, No, there was, it was a lot of things.
Speaker 1: You know. I was having you know, um having a
Speaker 1: good time, I guess, but uh, enjoying the fruit to
Speaker 1: your label. Yeah, but you know it's it was time
Speaker 1: to clean my act up, get back to work. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, just just accept my responsibilities and and and
Speaker 1: who who I am and what I gotta do now.
Speaker 1: The truth that you signed a ten million dollars deal
Speaker 1: with Leo Cohen. No, not were going but yes and
Speaker 1: ten million. No, it was no, it's you know how
Speaker 1: the game. Yes, it's something over, it's something around there.
Speaker 1: I got a I got a nice little chunk of change.
Speaker 1: I would have went away and did a bunch of
Speaker 1: drugs too. You mean you gotta earn that money though.
Speaker 1: Still I'm sure they were concerned. Oh yeah, but but
Speaker 1: they were. But you know what they they kind of
Speaker 1: came in a situation and we're very like, let me
Speaker 1: take a sip of my drink out there, that remmy baby,
Speaker 1: get that remy and you uh. They were like just
Speaker 1: like you know, giving me time, like you know, um,
Speaker 1: but it was cool. It wasn't. It wasn't a thing
Speaker 1: like we need to we need to get him on
Speaker 1: the right track right now, get him to rehab. It
Speaker 1: was like it was like, you know, I had a
Speaker 1: lot of people around me who care about me and
Speaker 1: I was good, Arte, no, no, I ain't gonna rehab.
Speaker 1: Charlotte made texting me, you know a lot, and he
Speaker 1: was like, yo, how are you doing? And I was
Speaker 1: like I'm good. And we would talk a lot, just
Speaker 1: like on some French and then he started getting romantic
Speaker 1: with I was like, you need to chill, you know,
Speaker 1: just like just like hey babe, um bad. I'm like yo.
Speaker 1: And what I said was I was like, wrong number
Speaker 1: and he's like, no, it's not right, is it still? Mac?
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. He did tell me that you
Speaker 1: did that once and he asked me what was out
Speaker 1: with you? He did, I must have been drunk and
Speaker 1: it must that didn't have nothing. But but I had to, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I had to just get my together and
Speaker 1: go back to work. You know, I just was, I
Speaker 1: just you know, I was. I was being dumb and
Speaker 1: you were pretty young and you had a great wild
Speaker 1: time your friends around you and everything. Sometimes you got
Speaker 1: to refocus, exactly, And I think I think for me
Speaker 1: it was a thing where like I just didn't feel
Speaker 1: like I thought it was my right, which it is,
Speaker 1: but I thought it was like my right as a
Speaker 1: human to say I didn't want to do anything. So
Speaker 1: like I was like, I don't feel like toyn I
Speaker 1: don't feel like an album out. Was it that later?
Speaker 1: Was it? Was it the la life? Well, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of space out there, so you know, I could
Speaker 1: I had, I could disappear, and I was just kind
Speaker 1: of just making a lot of music and I just
Speaker 1: kind of got comfortable in this zone of like, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna like, I don't need to bring any money in.
Speaker 1: I got money, You had money, so you just wanted
Speaker 1: to record, right, just record and just have fun with it.
Speaker 1: And then I realized that that I didn't put anything out,
Speaker 1: and like and then I ran out of money, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Scott storched myself and then, uh, hell,
Speaker 1: how to go bro? I'm Jewish? Come on, you know
Speaker 1: I got my money talks, I'm good, I got investments.
Speaker 1: Um no. But so I just decided it was time
Speaker 1: to come back. Did anything inspire you? Was it like
Speaker 1: a day that you were listening to something and you
Speaker 1: were like, you know what, I gotta get back in there.
Speaker 1: I mean, like, you know, I think, uh. At first,
Speaker 1: when I signed to a major, it was a little
Speaker 1: scary for me because I was like, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: like what if all my freedom's gone? Because he were
Speaker 1: kind of against that world? Would you do that? I mistake?
Speaker 1: You said, like you that's what you're kind of claim
Speaker 1: to fame. But that independent audi and see that I
Speaker 1: was one of this, you know, because it was it's
Speaker 1: it's it's that time and and just like I can
Speaker 1: do more from this position, not just for me, but
Speaker 1: for those around me, and I can create, um, like
Speaker 1: a real franchise and uh um yeah I'm me. I
Speaker 1: was like, you know, it was a little scary. You
Speaker 1: see that that contract is so thick, bro, but I'm
Speaker 1: sure it with ten million reasons why. But you know,
Speaker 1: I don't do it for the money. I do it
Speaker 1: for the art. How much did Rostrom get? Did you
Speaker 1: have to give them anything? No, it wasn't like that. No,
Speaker 1: they've got a lot of money from the work we
Speaker 1: did together. And then you've announced that you're going on
Speaker 1: tour and you're doing smaller and more intimate venues. Yeah
Speaker 1: before so there's like a album release, um shows um,
Speaker 1: and then the real tour gets announced the day before
Speaker 1: the album comes out. But um, yeah, which I love
Speaker 1: Like that was the other thing is I like hadn't
Speaker 1: done shows. I got back to doing shows. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh wow, like I'm still selling our venues. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you look terrible that now that was I was horrible.
Speaker 1: What was you do? You know what's so bad about that?
Speaker 1: I'm the guy that'd be like, no Mac Milliken rap, right,
Speaker 1: I know? And I I mean jail with jay Z's
Speaker 1: there too. Oh bro, you know dog? I was so
Speaker 1: hot because well, this thing is like, you know, you
Speaker 1: you don't uh that song. It's not like that's a
Speaker 1: one that I always perform, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So I was going over my verse, like I gotta
Speaker 1: remember verse because I've had an issue with that in
Speaker 1: the past, and especially when you're on a lot of drugs,
Speaker 1: you always forget stuff. So like, you know, you're you know,
Speaker 1: I was kind of a mess. Um. So I get
Speaker 1: there and you know, I'm like, okay, I think I'm ready,
Speaker 1: and uh, I'm super geeks. Everyone's being super cool. Um,
Speaker 1: and I come out on stage and I just completely
Speaker 1: blow it. I got four bars out and for the
Speaker 1: first four bars I thought I was killing. I was like,
Speaker 1: I was like whoa. And then also I was like
Speaker 1: and so me and him started freestyling and then I
Speaker 1: just kind of messed up dipped and like I do
Speaker 1: this thing when I mess up my lyrics, I kind
Speaker 1: of like just run away like a little kid. Like
Speaker 1: I was like diad. I was like, weird right on stage.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, like like I'm a man, I'll
Speaker 1: take it my whole thing, and like I'll stand on stage.
Speaker 1: I had a show one time where I forgot every
Speaker 1: single lyric besides the hook for the whole show. You
Speaker 1: just stood on the stage and turned up with people,
Speaker 1: where like most people would have just walked off the stage.
Speaker 1: I just kicked it. Yeah, but like, but that's Jay
Speaker 1: Electronic and said that on the stage. He was like,
Speaker 1: you know, he smoked a lot. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: people hitting my phone like this the dude you'd be
Speaker 1: talking about can wrap you. And then after him after
Speaker 1: he goes So was that bad? Yeah, it was bad.
Speaker 1: It was super bad. I was like, um, but I
Speaker 1: remember I talked to I remember, like I was going
Speaker 1: off stage and I Uh Electronic and I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: it's like because I take this shit really serious. Like
Speaker 1: I don't like to cup. It's not like I've just
Speaker 1: been joking around. But I was like, Yo, I blew it.
Speaker 1: I messed up man. He said yes, he said no, no,
Speaker 1: he said he said there's no ups in hip hop. Bro.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, he no, hard, but not for
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it was cool, but
Speaker 1: I definitely blew a dope opportunity. Jay was definitely backstage. Definitely.
Speaker 1: Jay was definitely like, he didn't invite you to the
Speaker 1: title meeting after that. Nah. Nah, I've I've I've never
Speaker 1: spoken to him. I've I've known. I know that he's
Speaker 1: heard some stuff and liked it. I've known that. Uh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just start making you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I know he bumpd my album on the regular. Nah,
Speaker 1: but uh no, I never I never got dropped up
Speaker 1: with him. It's kind of good you felt back the
Speaker 1: last couple of years because it was kind of hard
Speaker 1: on white rappers in hip hop. Dude, that was it
Speaker 1: was not it was not not type for white nig
Speaker 1: got it bad. Yeah, I mean it's you know, it's
Speaker 1: a it's a touchy subject, especially with everything else going
Speaker 1: on in the world. I mean, it's like, who looks
Speaker 1: like white rappers don't look like the tightest people when
Speaker 1: there's all these horrible things going on the world. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, it doesn't look tight. Um, And
Speaker 1: I wasn't like a planned thing. It definitely wasn't like
Speaker 1: a like I need to get back man, like that
Speaker 1: definitely wasn't you know. That was like, do you ever
Speaker 1: feel the need to speak out on social issues because
Speaker 1: you are part of hip hop? Right, and people feel like, oh,
Speaker 1: if you know you're part of hip hoop, you should
Speaker 1: speak out on what's going on with black people. Um oh,
Speaker 1: I mean definitely with certain things. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: there's a time when I'm when I'm younger nineteen eighteen,
Speaker 1: nineteen twenty twenty one, right, But I'm saying this is like,
Speaker 1: up until now, I didn't really speak on race. I
Speaker 1: didn't really speak on these issues just because my whole
Speaker 1: idea was like, uh, I'm probably just scared of it, really,
Speaker 1: but my whole idea was like, you know, I just
Speaker 1: want to make music. I just want to make music.
Speaker 1: And now I kind of like, like it did like
Speaker 1: a bunch of interviews on like white rappers and hip
Speaker 1: hop and stuff like that. It's like you can't be
Speaker 1: uncomfortable to talk about it. You can't be uncomfortable with
Speaker 1: you white exactly exactly your experience in every interview. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I mean, yeah, you know, I'll be annoying DC. Oh,
Speaker 1: you're my favorite white guy. But I mean I think,
Speaker 1: you know, but that's fine, and I think I think
Speaker 1: my favorite black guy. I don't know, you're definitely not
Speaker 1: definitely not you, like my third favorite light skame b
Speaker 1: and as the longest light skinned people I know, so
Speaker 1: that you but no, it's like uh um yeah. I
Speaker 1: think at the time, as as someone in the in
Speaker 1: the public and being young and like being a white
Speaker 1: rapper is uh, that always comes with it. You're like,
Speaker 1: I just want to be a rapper man, but like
Speaker 1: in reality, it's like whatever, I don't want to just
Speaker 1: be considered a female rapper, right. Is that one of
Speaker 1: the reasons you signed to a major because it was
Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, Mcamore, NIGGI blew up with
Speaker 1: radio records and I remember talking to you once and
Speaker 1: you was like you wanted to get radio records now,
Speaker 1: and I was like why, Yeah, I know, I mean
Speaker 1: that wasn't uh, that didn't happen. I mean, that wasn't
Speaker 1: like a reason for I think I just wanted to see,
Speaker 1: like I never had a real budget to do anything,
Speaker 1: you know, like I've never you were investing yourself basically
Speaker 1: right now. I mean like like you know, like Rosham
Speaker 1: definitely had put money down and and you used to
Speaker 1: be the thing where if like if Rosham didn't want
Speaker 1: to pay for it, I paid for it, like I
Speaker 1: didn't care and like, um, but like just really because
Speaker 1: they're an independent company, so I didn't really have a
Speaker 1: big budget to work with sopendent. Yeah, but I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, hey, you're just not as I'm not, you know,
Speaker 1: and you know what I'm saying. There's there's no there's
Speaker 1: tears of rappers, and it's like Maclamore Macmiller. Everyone knows it.
Speaker 1: I'm trash. He's nice, like you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like I don't know how to me know me, you know,
Speaker 1: it's for real, I don't know how to I don't
Speaker 1: have the metaphors that he has. Everyone knows true. You know,
Speaker 1: his name was supposed to be Macalmiller. Yeah, like you
Speaker 1: know what, No, I didn't hear that. Yeah, he actually
Speaker 1: and and and I told I told him, I was like, yo, bro,
Speaker 1: like you got my name and he just slapped it
Speaker 1: out of me. And I was like, my father, bro,
Speaker 1: and I said, you know, I like you know, so
Speaker 1: I don't really be saying anything bad about him. Sorry, bro.
Speaker 1: So he was going to expose you too. He was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: he got this ghost riding and Quentnin Miller do that. No, No, Miller.
Speaker 1: I know Charlotte Maine be writing most of my hooks.
Speaker 1: And then Angela really be writing the bark. I knew it,
Speaker 1: and you knew it. I knew it. I knew That's
Speaker 1: that's why I like sometimes people like that sounds kind
Speaker 1: of like kind of like he likes dude, Well, I
Speaker 1: actually wrote one hundred grandkids, right, you wrote that it's
Speaker 1: time for mcmullletta settled down and have some kids. It's
Speaker 1: not the grandkids. I mean you got a lot of children. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's dren some grandchildren. She's ready, right,
Speaker 1: she needs you to get started and should be your
Speaker 1: seeds all over right, you know, playing that record un grandkids, um,
Speaker 1: who were like the first half of the record um
Speaker 1: is about having grandchildren and and it's really not like
Speaker 1: the heavy message behind the record. It's just kind of
Speaker 1: a little like stupid double on terms or where the
Speaker 1: first half is about grandchildren and then the second half
Speaker 1: is about first time I got one hundred grand It's
Speaker 1: like not that tight. I mean I think that crazy
Speaker 1: of like whoa, but like it's just my main thing
Speaker 1: is I just wanted to come back with something that
Speaker 1: was like confident and and like some fun. There's nothing
Speaker 1: wrong being fun. There's nothing wrong with feeling yourself. And
Speaker 1: that's the headspace I wanted to get into before I
Speaker 1: came back. I didn't want to come back depressed. Did
Speaker 1: Donald Trump ever sue you? No, he never did. I
Speaker 1: don't think he really had a case, but he's been
Speaker 1: sued for everything. But that's what I'm saying. That's like,
Speaker 1: I gotta be careful because I got like, you know,
Speaker 1: I can't do I gets suped for everything. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: has to be discouraging. It feels like you, in particular
Speaker 1: a mixtape unde hundred thousand dollars for for what a
Speaker 1: free mixtape song because it was a sample, Yeah, which
Speaker 1: is crazy because everybody does that. So yeah, to get
Speaker 1: somebody a hunt, you have to give a law of
Speaker 1: professor a hundrand. Right. No, look, I can't disclose any
Speaker 1: information about amounts of money that you can hear it
Speaker 1: on a hundred grandly got but I definitely got sued.
Speaker 1: But I mean, look, you feel like he was he
Speaker 1: was picked on because of that, because everybody does that. Man,
Speaker 1: jay Z do it. I hadn't heard the Great Dre,
Speaker 1: I didn't heard Kendrick. I didn't heard everybody do it. Um,
Speaker 1: you know what it's for me, I don't want to.
Speaker 1: I'm not looking super deep into it, like yeah, like dude,
Speaker 1: I think I think when that Lord for Next thing happened,
Speaker 1: I think everyone was like whoo too. I mean, like
Speaker 1: that really set it off. But like, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: it is what it is. You know, It's like I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm not sitting here like man, I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: why is everyone was suing me? They must not like me? Man,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like money, right, and
Speaker 1: I feel him. I want money too. Your album is
Speaker 1: out to day right, No, the videos out today. I
Speaker 1: seen Charlottagne doing this research when I walked in here
Speaker 1: and I heard you up and watched the video. You
Speaker 1: just put it out, excited, excited over mcmill until I
Speaker 1: see what its heat is at. Right, You know, but
Speaker 1: doesn't it look like a positive more positive place. Yes,
Speaker 1: but I just want to make sure you good because
Speaker 1: you know, you'll come out a video. Didn't go back
Speaker 1: to drugs. No, No, that's true. I mean it's been
Speaker 1: a positive It's true though, But like, but that was
Speaker 1: the thing is that was the other thing though, is
Speaker 1: that is I started to see that that was like
Speaker 1: that was my thing, you know, like like that's what
Speaker 1: I was being what people were knowing me for. It
Speaker 1: was like, oh, Mac Miller smacked white boy, like the
Speaker 1: dude that's always on drugs, and I was like, that's
Speaker 1: not tight, you know what I mean? Like, especially like
Speaker 1: I got a young fans like I'm not I don't
Speaker 1: want to I don't want to act like that. That's
Speaker 1: it's cool. And then it's just a pointing to your
Speaker 1: fans when you go away for such a long period
Speaker 1: of time and they're like, dude, what is it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's like we love you. What are you? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying while you are And like like uh,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I gonna say why are you hiding? Hiding?
Speaker 1: But I stopped but uh but no, but um but
Speaker 1: like you know, like a lot of a lot of
Speaker 1: a lot of my friends that that make music and
Speaker 1: also did a lot of drugs. If you know, quit
Speaker 1: doing drugs, you know. I mean I think I think
Speaker 1: you just get to a point where you're just like, okay,
Speaker 1: this is just this is I'm doing too much to
Speaker 1: write music though, was you Was that part of your
Speaker 1: writing process back then? No? No, yeah, I used drugs
Speaker 1: to do everything. Brush my teeth you know, still sound
Speaker 1: the same, It still sound good. Because some people need
Speaker 1: that for their lyrics. No, I mean I think I
Speaker 1: think uh no, I mean I don't think I need it.
Speaker 1: I think it's more about what headspace you're in. But
Speaker 1: like I said, it was a like I have a
Speaker 1: lot of people around me to care about me. What
Speaker 1: did your mom say to you? Yeah, I mean she didn't.
Speaker 1: I mean she didn't know. And then I hit her
Speaker 1: one time and I was like, just told her the
Speaker 1: truth because I'm crying. No, probably maybe a little cry
Speaker 1: of the type call not like the ones we have.
Speaker 1: It was different. No, it was like no, I mean
Speaker 1: I think I just kind of broke it down for everyone.
Speaker 1: And then after I broke it down for everyone, like
Speaker 1: it made it like it makes it that much more
Speaker 1: difficult to come back because everyone's like, you're all right,
Speaker 1: and then I'm like, yeah, man, I'm fine. That's you know,
Speaker 1: like that for a while though, Yeah, but I'm not.
Speaker 1: But this thing like I'm not like I'm not out here,
Speaker 1: like like fucking never was that? You mean, like like
Speaker 1: like I'll do it, like I'll raise somebody for crack,
Speaker 1: but like I'm not gonna goodness um nah, but uh
Speaker 1: but um nah, I'm what are gonna say? I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not out here like completely like on some born
Speaker 1: again Christian I don't touch a drink. I don't right now,
Speaker 1: right exactly. Like I'm still having a good time with
Speaker 1: my work progress, but I'm saying this is this is
Speaker 1: this is progress. This is progress. But I'm just what
Speaker 1: about your MTV show? Did you lose that? I didn't
Speaker 1: lose it. I quit it because because it was time
Speaker 1: to make room for Tiger. Everyone knows that they was
Speaker 1: trying to get him to get White Rabb. I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: you can't go get mackelmore. No, no riff Raff, give
Speaker 1: it to Tiger. But no, like is having all this
Speaker 1: controversy with people thinking that he sleeps with transgenders. Why
Speaker 1: I opened up, back up, I gotta ask you, have
Speaker 1: you ever been about the show show? Okay, well no,
Speaker 1: I never, I've never. I've never been fooled by a
Speaker 1: transgender not even almost, not even almost. O I know,
Speaker 1: I know. So MTV two show No. Because I wanted
Speaker 1: I didn't lose it. Um. I wanted to not go
Speaker 1: down as a reality TV star. And I think that
Speaker 1: it was like, that's such a big platform that like
Speaker 1: that moves, it's at a rapid pace and it's on
Speaker 1: repeat all the time, that people are always seeing you there.
Speaker 1: That like I wanted to like step back and be like,
Speaker 1: let me make sure the music stands front. And also
Speaker 1: it was like my schedule was ridiculous. I would be
Speaker 1: on tour, come back, have two days off, and I'd
Speaker 1: be shooting both those days and I was like, this
Speaker 1: is this is too much. That's supposed to be your
Speaker 1: day off and right, and it was doing great too.
Speaker 1: It was one of your own big one. You don't
Speaker 1: help your people though, because I'm sure your people will.
Speaker 1: They were they were halfway stars on this. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: they probably got more of a giant and because of it, right,
Speaker 1: they do Okay, Actually, that night when you are hung out.
Speaker 1: I was like, this has to be annoying because Mac
Speaker 1: Miller when we had those drinks that night with you
Speaker 1: and your friends. Yeah, they would not leave him alone
Speaker 1: everywhere he went. Every it was very man. It's and
Speaker 1: and you know, it's just and he didn't have security
Speaker 1: that day, so that was really bad. Angelo. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was there. No, I have security, I have I have
Speaker 1: I have I have security at certain things, but that
Speaker 1: day in particular. Yeah, sometimes I just roll out because
Speaker 1: I like I like to do that, Like I like
Speaker 1: to just walk around and people be like, yo, you
Speaker 1: have no security. And it would be like like like
Speaker 1: little bit like little like little white kids going like
Speaker 1: you don't need security. I was like, why I need
Speaker 1: security for me? Like what do you mean? Like, No,
Speaker 1: I'm good with the crew at now. I don't see
Speaker 1: nothing with you today. Early. No, I'm everyone's doing that
Speaker 1: thing like like the homies are are q Q was
Speaker 1: in La. He just got back from doing a panel
Speaker 1: at Obo Fest. Uh, Jimmy's hitch hiking across the country
Speaker 1: right now. Jesus Christ, get back together, Mac everything. I'm
Speaker 1: back together, man. Everyone. You know, everyone's on the soul
Speaker 1: searching mission right now? What about big Dude Dave Dave?
Speaker 1: They're killing it doing what Dave bouncing at the club.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be like, man, I mean, you're gonna be like, hell, yeah,
Speaker 1: what's up, dame? How are you? And I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: like Mac, Mac did this to you? Why is it
Speaker 1: gotta be me? Because you man, Look, I'm not together.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm it's not Look. I just want everyone
Speaker 1: to know. It's not that serious. You know, I'm straight.
Speaker 1: It's like everyone you know what I mean, Well, happened
Speaker 1: to the house. You still got the house at Big House. No,
Speaker 1: that's a I moved out of there. That was what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That wasn't good for me. You know, I
Speaker 1: don't mean you know all that. That's the other thing
Speaker 1: is by nature, I don't need all this excess. It
Speaker 1: was kind of for everybody else to have fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was like a lot of fun. I didn't need
Speaker 1: all I needed to do. You feel like it was
Speaker 1: people leaching off you? Nah? No, no, no, no, you
Speaker 1: were happy to be jan I was. I was. I
Speaker 1: loved What What what am I gonna do with all
Speaker 1: this money? Hey? Now I got no cash on me.
Speaker 1: You see the way my bank counts set up? Nah,
Speaker 1: but but nah man, I mean I I wanted it
Speaker 1: was less about anything that had to do with a
Speaker 1: dollar and more about that I wanted to kick it
Speaker 1: with my people as much as possible. What are you?
Speaker 1: What are you reading nowadays? That keeps you keeps your
Speaker 1: your energy up because you know, if you if you
Speaker 1: listen to McMillan, he's kind of a deep guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know when you listen to this music, well, that's
Speaker 1: you know, this is just uh That's one thing though,
Speaker 1: is that uh no, there's there's some moments on this album,
Speaker 1: but it's it's uh, it's less it's less of like
Speaker 1: asking all these questions, you know, and it's more of
Speaker 1: like because the last albums like this kid who's like
Speaker 1: going through life and ask all these questions to asking right,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying very like like we're like
Speaker 1: what are stars? Where the stars come from? Like you know,
Speaker 1: and this is a little more like uh like let
Speaker 1: me just be direct and like I don't care, like
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't, I don't. I'm not I'm not
Speaker 1: tripping about what my places anymore. I'm not worried about
Speaker 1: what's what what I can and can't do. Um, I know,
Speaker 1: I know who I am and like I and I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna wrap and have a good time. They're not
Speaker 1: taking subliminal shots at anybody and eating for that. There's
Speaker 1: no subliminals talked away real deep but nothing to anyone wants.
Speaker 1: Kind of wrong with asking questions though, man, especially if
Speaker 1: you look at for answers. No, for sure, for sure.
Speaker 1: But I mean I think I think that that there's
Speaker 1: a time and a place for every different kind of
Speaker 1: identity in music, you know, I think that they're that that, Uh,
Speaker 1: it's okay for artists to to jump around and and
Speaker 1: not always be so consistent with the identity they carry
Speaker 1: um in their music because humans are way more complex
Speaker 1: than that. Absolutely, you're not You're not always this dude,
Speaker 1: you know, like like you even take like Kendrick Kendrick
Speaker 1: just put out that for free video, right and everyone's like, oh,
Speaker 1: Kendrick has a sense of humor. It's like, yeah, Kendricks, SA,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Like and it's like and
Speaker 1: so it like for me, it's like, uh, like I
Speaker 1: want to make sure I cover all the all the
Speaker 1: all the different identities that come with being a human.
Speaker 1: I think the key to that is just being yourself.
Speaker 1: That's that's something I think POC did so well. You know,
Speaker 1: even guys like nah, they oh, they're they're hypocrisis. One
Speaker 1: minute they're talking about this, the next minute they're talking
Speaker 1: about that. But no, they're just human exactly. And that's
Speaker 1: that's such Like, that's like my main focus is like
Speaker 1: just keeping it real myself and like and talking about
Speaker 1: what I feel, because you see, you can go back
Speaker 1: and you see yourself going through this wild emotional journey.
Speaker 1: You know, you see yourself with moments of like, damn,
Speaker 1: I was fool of self doubt there, and then damn
Speaker 1: I was really feeling myself right there, and and there's
Speaker 1: a place for all of that, you know, and you
Speaker 1: don't have to you don't have to hide any part
Speaker 1: of yourself. Um. And I think in music, a lot
Speaker 1: of times people get tied up in in the in
Speaker 1: the the wrestling aspect of it, you know, like like
Speaker 1: the theme music and walking in and this is my
Speaker 1: character and and I'm this guy, and it's like, nah, man,
Speaker 1: you there's no way you're that every day in your life.
Speaker 1: There's no way did you do you run. I think
Speaker 1: you run from comparisons, like I remember MTV though we
Speaker 1: want you to be the new Rob did right right?
Speaker 1: I know what I'm saying, like, do you gotta understand
Speaker 1: for someone who's for a kid who's trying to find
Speaker 1: his identity, when someone is telling you you're the new this,
Speaker 1: You're automatically gonna be offended. I'm saying, you're gonna be like,
Speaker 1: I'm not the new Rob, Dude, I'm the first Matt Miller.
Speaker 1: I'm not the new eminem On, the first Mate Miller,
Speaker 1: Like you're always gonna do that, but now it's like, man, whatever,
Speaker 1: I'm not like, I'm not tribbling. It's everything is about
Speaker 1: if you're comfortable with self. All that is like people
Speaker 1: can say whatever. So I did get comfortable with self
Speaker 1: real quick. When you're scared of Kendrick's control. Verse scared,
Speaker 1: no bro old, But no, no, no, not at all,
Speaker 1: not at all. I was actually you know what I'm saying, like,
Speaker 1: like no, it was so wild. How how I think
Speaker 1: even he was surprised with how how much, how big
Speaker 1: that was? Um, but nah, I would put you. He
Speaker 1: mentioned you, so he put you right into that class
Speaker 1: of like new New greats. Right, But but I'm saying, like,
Speaker 1: you know whatever, like as he should? You know, um,
Speaker 1: and like it was tight because Kendricks someone did I
Speaker 1: look up to as an artist and and and it's
Speaker 1: in respect as an artist, but like as he should,
Speaker 1: I'm not like I'm not like I with myself. I'm out,
Speaker 1: do you really put yourself? Do you d do you?
Speaker 1: Are you really happy with what I'm saying. That's where
Speaker 1: I had to get to you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I think there was a there was a long time
Speaker 1: where like with someone who loves this music as much
Speaker 1: as I do, it was difficult for me to know
Speaker 1: like like the I like what I'm doing, my career paths,
Speaker 1: what that makes my life? Like what what being a
Speaker 1: white rapper means to my life as opposed to be
Speaker 1: if I was black or Latino or something. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Um, all these things were these demons
Speaker 1: where now? And that caused me to like not with everything.
Speaker 1: So now it's kind of like all right, dude, Like
Speaker 1: it's kind of like looking in the mirror. It's like
Speaker 1: stop being like a little bit like get up man,
Speaker 1: right exactly and take it or else or else are
Speaker 1: gonna give it away? And that's you don't want that,
Speaker 1: you know what what I'm saying. So, now that you've moved,
Speaker 1: what's different about your living arrangements? Like who's with you?
Speaker 1: And can you tell me about Yeah, he moved out
Speaker 1: of the house. Yeah I moved. Like so I have
Speaker 1: a spot in La in the spot in New York,
Speaker 1: spin La, I live with my brother. Um, you might
Speaker 1: have win broke for real and ain't telling us if
Speaker 1: he has in New York. You know you gotta have
Speaker 1: money to me here, but might love with his cousin
Speaker 1: in New York. Who you live with in New York?
Speaker 1: With my girl? Oh mac Man, chill out, bro. You
Speaker 1: know you don't see you don't see his wedding ring.
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear you got married? No, hell no,
Speaker 1: I'm crazy now. No not your girl seven years bro?
Speaker 1: Oh that's what's up? Man? Hey man, that's dope. Um
Speaker 1: she's black and white mixed okay, so um no, but uh,
Speaker 1: my living arrangement is different. It's chiller, it's not it's
Speaker 1: not this wild this wild life all the time, which
Speaker 1: was something uh, David Bowie, remember my dad told me this.
Speaker 1: My Dad. I was like, you know, I was watching
Speaker 1: this David Bowie documentary and uh, he went through a
Speaker 1: huge cocaine phase and then he moved to New York
Speaker 1: and got a really nice apartment and just hung out
Speaker 1: and lived. I was like, yeah, Dad, you know, but
Speaker 1: what the hell was the point of that? In New York?
Speaker 1: You switch up your environment. It's cocaine in New York.
Speaker 1: For sure, there is god. He just can't have no positivity. No, No,
Speaker 1: it's okay. I feel trying to see what my guy's
Speaker 1: head is in. No, but of course there's everything in
Speaker 1: New York. You cannot let a location have power over you.
Speaker 1: But but it can't run from yourself. You can't. Just
Speaker 1: wanted to change. I wanted to get another spot. It's
Speaker 1: not that serious. I just wanted to environment. I felt
Speaker 1: like picking up and moving. I could just sign a major.
Speaker 1: I can be by coastal, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: If you bisexual, I can be by coastal. But who
Speaker 1: do you prefer? Me? But on on on a on
Speaker 1: a lighter topic, though, I gotta say this. So I
Speaker 1: was at Starbucks on my way here, and the person
Speaker 1: behind the register came at me crazy girl, girl, girl,
Speaker 1: so I came. I came and and I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: like coming to get a cold brew. I need to
Speaker 1: wake up. It's early. And she was like, I know
Speaker 1: your mac something. I seen you on. I've seen you
Speaker 1: on I've seen you on a wild Now you was trash.
Speaker 1: He said you had She said you had no cuts.
Speaker 1: They was cutting you. I was like, I was like,
Speaker 1: I was like, what do you At first, I was like,
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, can I get a I said
Speaker 1: to vent venty cold brews? No. I was like, I
Speaker 1: was like, uh, damn. Really, I was like I thought
Speaker 1: I killed it. It was pretty good. She's like, nah,
Speaker 1: you can't kill it. They killed you. You had no jokes.
Speaker 1: I was like, this is crazy. Supposed to treat you
Speaker 1: like start making these public appearances, taking the more serious yeah,
Speaker 1: Like like like, but like what if that really messed
Speaker 1: up up my whole coming to the show today? Like
Speaker 1: what if I walked in like, man, where are you
Speaker 1: back on wine? Now? No? I was tight, I killed
Speaker 1: Nick Cannon. You gotta respect everybody's feel It's just an opinion.
Speaker 1: I thing. No, No, No, I was funny as hell.
Speaker 1: I was like amazing. I was like, Yo, this she's
Speaker 1: just amazing. She just trashed me at seven forty five
Speaker 1: in the morning from behind Starbucks, like just killed me
Speaker 1: and I had nothing to say. You gotta expect the honesty, though, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like I was like, I was like, it's like,
Speaker 1: she's like, yeah, you got you got killed you with
Speaker 1: no jokes. I was like, yeah, well, you know it's harder.
Speaker 1: Just check out my new video, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Can I just get that coffee? Thank you God bless
Speaker 1: you know. I remember the rule of ten man. Three
Speaker 1: people are gonna like it, through people are not gonna
Speaker 1: like it, and four people are not even gonna care,
Speaker 1: right exactly, And that's fine. Just say it to my face,
Speaker 1: not on Twitter, right. But I'm I'm dude. Like That's
Speaker 1: the other thing is like I'm cool with whatever, Like
Speaker 1: I'm really like, like you got to separate the difference
Speaker 1: between what's real and was not. Like I have a life,
Speaker 1: and that's what was a big part of these paths
Speaker 1: this recent times was like living, like getting back to
Speaker 1: being a human being, going out, like getting to drink
Speaker 1: with friends, go like caring about that, going taking a trip,
Speaker 1: exercise a little bit, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: you feel like you lost yourself in the industry. Basically, well,
Speaker 1: I feel like I got too tired because I was
Speaker 1: maturing as as as somebody in this and I think
Speaker 1: I was, uh you you you look at uh you
Speaker 1: you just kind of look at this too seriously seriously
Speaker 1: And when you're worried about your legacy too much, what
Speaker 1: am I going to leave behind? How am I gonna
Speaker 1: be remembered? All that? Man like you got today. Absolutely
Speaker 1: enjoyed the moment exactly. I mean, you do got to
Speaker 1: think for the future because everything you do in your
Speaker 1: life today does affect what happens in your life to
Speaker 1: the moment. Yeah, but you still gotta enjoy the moment, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, just don't be don't be an idiot, and
Speaker 1: trust your gut, trust yourself. So it's the new album
Speaker 1: gonna be on some like commercial record label. No, hell no,
Speaker 1: I would not do that fun silly stuff. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: hell no. No. They still you to make your own decisions. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was that was a big thing. There's no like
Speaker 1: executive producer, there's no an or, there's no there were
Speaker 1: labels that I got that vibe from that. They're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you should come here, because we got the best producers
Speaker 1: and da da da da. And it's like but the
Speaker 1: warner was really like, look, whatever you did so far
Speaker 1: working you do you whenever you want to give us
Speaker 1: a radio single, let us know. You know, it's like okay,
Speaker 1: word sounds good. Yeah, So like you know the album
Speaker 1: that I would I would never sacrifice making the most
Speaker 1: important thing to me is making a good album. Good Am, septembrayteenth.
Speaker 1: And that's what I said in the meeting. I said,
Speaker 1: I don't like if I sell singles or not sell singles. Whatever,
Speaker 1: I want to sell albums. That's what I want to
Speaker 1: move albums. Why good Am? Is it actually good morning? Yeah?
Speaker 1: It's like it's yeah. No. Idea actually helped me come
Speaker 1: up with the because I didn't like good Morning as
Speaker 1: a title, but I liked it as a concept, like
Speaker 1: because I wanted the album to be like that that
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, like like we'll talk came about
Speaker 1: you know, it's like the breath of fresh air. Like
Speaker 1: you it's like you walk out the door and you
Speaker 1: go to Starbucks, you get trash. But what I'm saying
Speaker 1: is I wanted I wanted that feeling um um of
Speaker 1: like just just something refreshing and uh and I was
Speaker 1: talking to no Idea and Studious playing some records. I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, it's called good morning, but I don't
Speaker 1: like that title. It's too simple. He's just like called
Speaker 1: good am. He was like okay. I was like okay,
Speaker 1: He's like, now I'm executive. He's like, now let me now.
Speaker 1: You know, but that that was dope that he did that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, he's still cool with Q. Yeah, que someone
Speaker 1: who also like ques qu Is. Q is a clean
Speaker 1: like Q is. You're talking about school with Q, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's clean. He's like he works out all the time.
Speaker 1: He doesn't do drugs, he doesn't drink really, he stopped
Speaker 1: smoking as much. Like he's like really focused right now.
Speaker 1: It's just beautiful. That's the kind of association you want
Speaker 1: to be herod right exactly. You know, you know, hey, hey, yeah,
Speaker 1: good Day the eighteenth is to day middle ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1: We appreciate. That's a good influence, great influence. Hey man,
Speaker 1: I'd rather than drink and do drugs. It's the breakfast clubs,
Speaker 1: Black a mellow