1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: Real Key for real Celebrity Real joined the Breakfast Morning. 2 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Ye, Charlomane the guy. We 3 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: are the breakfast class. We got a friend to the room. 4 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: I don't know this guy no more. We haven't seen 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: him in the hell. Where the hell is this guy been? 6 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: My favorite white guy, mister Macmiller, Ladies, yell Miller, it's 7 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: my mic on. Yes, yeah, here sir. Yeah, he's having 8 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: a drink right now that I'm talking about drugs. Oh yeah, no, 9 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: no, no no, no, I mean yeah, no, no, no, no no, no, no, no, no. 10 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm really good. He look good. You know, 11 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: you look healthy. You don't look drugged out. I'm not 12 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: drugged up. Because that's what we was hearing that mcmillier 13 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: has disappeared, because because because he was doing a lot 14 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: of drug I even texted you one day, I say, 15 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: what's up, man, you good? I'm hearing things. Yeah, you know, 16 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: I had a little battle. You mean, I did you know, 17 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: did some time? What was the drug of choice? I'm 18 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: making backsliding, No, there was, it was a lot of things. 19 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: You know. I was having you know, um having a 20 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: good time, I guess, but uh, enjoying the fruit to 21 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: your label. Yeah, but you know it's it was time 22 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: to clean my act up, get back to work. Um, 23 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: you know, just just accept my responsibilities and and and 24 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: who who I am and what I gotta do now. 25 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: The truth that you signed a ten million dollars deal 26 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: with Leo Cohen. No, not were going but yes and 27 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: ten million. No, it was no, it's you know how 28 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 1: the game. Yes, it's something over, it's something around there. 29 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: I got a I got a nice little chunk of change. 30 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: I would have went away and did a bunch of 31 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: drugs too. You mean you gotta earn that money though. 32 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: Still I'm sure they were concerned. Oh yeah, but but 33 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: they were. But you know what they they kind of 34 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: came in a situation and we're very like, let me 35 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: take a sip of my drink out there, that remmy baby, 36 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: get that remy and you uh. They were like just 37 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: like you know, giving me time, like you know, um, 38 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: but it was cool. It wasn't. It wasn't a thing 39 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: like we need to we need to get him on 40 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: the right track right now, get him to rehab. It 41 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: was like it was like, you know, I had a 42 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 1: lot of people around me who care about me and 43 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: I was good, Arte, no, no, I ain't gonna rehab. 44 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: Charlotte made texting me, you know a lot, and he 45 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: was like, yo, how are you doing? And I was 46 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: like I'm good. And we would talk a lot, just 47 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: like on some French and then he started getting romantic 48 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: with I was like, you need to chill, you know, 49 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: just like just like hey babe, um bad. I'm like yo. 50 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: And what I said was I was like, wrong number 51 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 1: and he's like, no, it's not right, is it still? Mac? 52 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. He did tell me that you 53 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: did that once and he asked me what was out 54 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: with you? He did, I must have been drunk and 55 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: it must that didn't have nothing. But but I had to, uh, 56 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: you know, I had to just get my together and 57 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: go back to work. You know, I just was, I 58 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: just you know, I was. I was being dumb and 59 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: you were pretty young and you had a great wild 60 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: time your friends around you and everything. Sometimes you got 61 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: to refocus, exactly, And I think I think for me 62 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: it was a thing where like I just didn't feel 63 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: like I thought it was my right, which it is, 64 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: but I thought it was like my right as a 65 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: human to say I didn't want to do anything. So 66 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: like I was like, I don't feel like toyn I 67 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: don't feel like an album out. Was it that later? 68 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: Was it? Was it the la life? Well, there's a 69 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: lot of space out there, so you know, I could 70 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: I had, I could disappear, and I was just kind 71 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: of just making a lot of music and I just 72 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: kind of got comfortable in this zone of like, I'm 73 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: not gonna like, I don't need to bring any money in. 74 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: I got money, You had money, so you just wanted 75 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: to record, right, just record and just have fun with it. 76 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: And then I realized that that I didn't put anything out, 77 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: and like and then I ran out of money, you 78 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Scott storched myself and then, uh, hell, 79 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: how to go bro? I'm Jewish? Come on, you know 80 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: I got my money talks, I'm good, I got investments. 81 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: Um no. But so I just decided it was time 82 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: to come back. Did anything inspire you? Was it like 83 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: a day that you were listening to something and you 84 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 1: were like, you know what, I gotta get back in there. 85 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: I mean, like, you know, I think, uh. At first, 86 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: when I signed to a major, it was a little 87 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: scary for me because I was like, oh, you know, 88 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: like what if all my freedom's gone? Because he were 89 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: kind of against that world? Would you do that? I mistake? 90 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: You said, like you that's what you're kind of claim 91 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: to fame. But that independent audi and see that I 92 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: was one of this, you know, because it was it's 93 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: it's it's that time and and just like I can 94 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: do more from this position, not just for me, but 95 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: for those around me, and I can create, um, like 96 00:04:54,600 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: a real franchise and uh um yeah I'm me. I 97 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 1: was like, you know, it was a little scary. You 98 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: see that that contract is so thick, bro, but I'm 99 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 1: sure it with ten million reasons why. But you know, 100 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: I don't do it for the money. I do it 101 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 1: for the art. How much did Rostrom get? Did you 102 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: have to give them anything? No, it wasn't like that. No, 103 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: they've got a lot of money from the work we 104 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: did together. And then you've announced that you're going on 105 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: tour and you're doing smaller and more intimate venues. Yeah 106 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: before so there's like a album release, um shows um, 107 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: and then the real tour gets announced the day before 108 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: the album comes out. But um, yeah, which I love 109 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: Like that was the other thing is I like hadn't 110 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: done shows. I got back to doing shows. I was like, 111 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: oh wow, like I'm still selling our venues. Yeah, and 112 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: you look terrible that now that was I was horrible. 113 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: What was you do? You know what's so bad about that? 114 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: I'm the guy that'd be like, no Mac Milliken rap, right, 115 00:05:55,160 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: I know? And I I mean jail with jay Z's 116 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: there too. Oh bro, you know dog? I was so 117 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: hot because well, this thing is like, you know, you 118 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 1: you don't uh that song. It's not like that's a 119 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: one that I always perform, you know what I mean. 120 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: So I was going over my verse, like I gotta 121 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: remember verse because I've had an issue with that in 122 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: the past, and especially when you're on a lot of drugs, 123 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 1: you always forget stuff. So like, you know, you're you know, 124 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: I was kind of a mess. Um. So I get 125 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: there and you know, I'm like, okay, I think I'm ready, 126 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: and uh, I'm super geeks. Everyone's being super cool. Um, 127 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: and I come out on stage and I just completely 128 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 1: blow it. I got four bars out and for the 129 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 1: first four bars I thought I was killing. I was like, 130 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: I was like whoa. And then also I was like 131 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: and so me and him started freestyling and then I 132 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: just kind of messed up dipped and like I do 133 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: this thing when I mess up my lyrics, I kind 134 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 1: of like just run away like a little kid. Like 135 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: I was like diad. I was like, weird right on stage. 136 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 1: No no, no, no, like like I'm a man, I'll 137 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: take it my whole thing, and like I'll stand on stage. 138 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: I had a show one time where I forgot every 139 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: single lyric besides the hook for the whole show. You 140 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: just stood on the stage and turned up with people, 141 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: where like most people would have just walked off the stage. 142 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: I just kicked it. Yeah, but like, but that's Jay 143 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: Electronic and said that on the stage. He was like, 144 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: you know, he smoked a lot. I was like, yeah, 145 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: people hitting my phone like this the dude you'd be 146 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: talking about can wrap you. And then after him after 147 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: he goes So was that bad? Yeah, it was bad. 148 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: It was super bad. I was like, um, but I 149 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: remember I talked to I remember, like I was going 150 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: off stage and I Uh Electronic and I was like, yo, 151 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: it's like because I take this shit really serious. Like 152 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: I don't like to cup. It's not like I've just 153 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: been joking around. But I was like, Yo, I blew it. 154 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: I messed up man. He said yes, he said no, no, 155 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: he said he said there's no ups in hip hop. Bro. 156 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, he no, hard, but not for 157 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it was cool, but 158 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: I definitely blew a dope opportunity. Jay was definitely backstage. Definitely. 159 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: Jay was definitely like, he didn't invite you to the 160 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: title meeting after that. Nah. Nah, I've I've I've never 161 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: spoken to him. I've I've known. I know that he's 162 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: heard some stuff and liked it. I've known that. Uh, 163 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna just start making you know what I'm saying. 164 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: I know he bumpd my album on the regular. Nah, 165 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: but uh no, I never I never got dropped up 166 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: with him. It's kind of good you felt back the 167 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: last couple of years because it was kind of hard 168 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: on white rappers in hip hop. Dude, that was it 169 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: was not it was not not type for white nig 170 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: got it bad. Yeah, I mean it's you know, it's 171 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,719 Speaker 1: a it's a touchy subject, especially with everything else going 172 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 1: on in the world. I mean, it's like, who looks 173 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: like white rappers don't look like the tightest people when 174 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: there's all these horrible things going on the world. You 175 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, it doesn't look tight. Um, And 176 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: I wasn't like a planned thing. It definitely wasn't like 177 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: a like I need to get back man, like that 178 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: definitely wasn't you know. That was like, do you ever 179 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: feel the need to speak out on social issues because 180 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: you are part of hip hop? Right, and people feel like, oh, 181 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: if you know you're part of hip hoop, you should 182 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: speak out on what's going on with black people. Um oh, 183 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: I mean definitely with certain things. I mean, I think 184 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: there's a time when I'm when I'm younger nineteen eighteen, 185 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: nineteen twenty twenty one, right, But I'm saying this is like, 186 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: up until now, I didn't really speak on race. I 187 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: didn't really speak on these issues just because my whole 188 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: idea was like, uh, I'm probably just scared of it, really, 189 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: but my whole idea was like, you know, I just 190 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: want to make music. I just want to make music. 191 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: And now I kind of like, like it did like 192 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: a bunch of interviews on like white rappers and hip 193 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 1: hop and stuff like that. It's like you can't be 194 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: uncomfortable to talk about it. You can't be uncomfortable with 195 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 1: you white exactly exactly your experience in every interview. Yeah, 196 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: but I mean, yeah, you know, I'll be annoying DC. Oh, 197 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: you're my favorite white guy. But I mean I think, 198 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: you know, but that's fine, and I think I think 199 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: my favorite black guy. I don't know, you're definitely not 200 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: definitely not you, like my third favorite light skame b 201 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: and as the longest light skinned people I know, so 202 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: that you but no, it's like uh um yeah. I 203 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: think at the time, as as someone in the in 204 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: the public and being young and like being a white 205 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: rapper is uh, that always comes with it. You're like, 206 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: I just want to be a rapper man, but like 207 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: in reality, it's like whatever, I don't want to just 208 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: be considered a female rapper, right. Is that one of 209 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: the reasons you signed to a major because it was 210 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, Mcamore, NIGGI blew up with 211 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: radio records and I remember talking to you once and 212 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: you was like you wanted to get radio records now, 213 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: and I was like why, Yeah, I know, I mean 214 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: that wasn't uh, that didn't happen. I mean, that wasn't 215 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: like a reason for I think I just wanted to see, 216 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: like I never had a real budget to do anything, 217 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: you know, like I've never you were investing yourself basically 218 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: right now. I mean like like you know, like Rosham 219 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: definitely had put money down and and you used to 220 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: be the thing where if like if Rosham didn't want 221 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: to pay for it, I paid for it, like I 222 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: didn't care and like, um, but like just really because 223 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: they're an independent company, so I didn't really have a 224 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 1: big budget to work with sopendent. Yeah, but I mean, 225 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: you know, hey, you're just not as I'm not, you know, 226 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 1: and you know what I'm saying. There's there's no there's 227 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: tears of rappers, and it's like Maclamore Macmiller. Everyone knows it. 228 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 1: I'm trash. He's nice, like you know what I mean, 229 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: Like I don't know how to me know me, you know, 230 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: it's for real, I don't know how to I don't 231 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: have the metaphors that he has. Everyone knows true. You know, 232 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: his name was supposed to be Macalmiller. Yeah, like you 233 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: know what, No, I didn't hear that. Yeah, he actually 234 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: and and and I told I told him, I was like, yo, bro, 235 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: like you got my name and he just slapped it 236 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 1: out of me. And I was like, my father, bro, 237 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: and I said, you know, I like you know, so 238 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: I don't really be saying anything bad about him. Sorry, bro. 239 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: So he was going to expose you too. He was like, Yo, 240 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: he got this ghost riding and Quentnin Miller do that. No, No, Miller. 241 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: I know Charlotte Maine be writing most of my hooks. 242 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: And then Angela really be writing the bark. I knew it, 243 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: and you knew it. I knew it. I knew That's 244 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: that's why I like sometimes people like that sounds kind 245 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: of like kind of like he likes dude, Well, I 246 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: actually wrote one hundred grandkids, right, you wrote that it's 247 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,719 Speaker 1: time for mcmullletta settled down and have some kids. It's 248 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: not the grandkids. I mean you got a lot of children. Yeah, 249 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's dren some grandchildren. She's ready, right, 250 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: she needs you to get started and should be your 251 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: seeds all over right, you know, playing that record un grandkids, um, 252 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: who were like the first half of the record um 253 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: is about having grandchildren and and it's really not like 254 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: the heavy message behind the record. It's just kind of 255 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 1: a little like stupid double on terms or where the 256 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: first half is about grandchildren and then the second half 257 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: is about first time I got one hundred grand It's 258 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 1: like not that tight. I mean I think that crazy 259 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: of like whoa, but like it's just my main thing 260 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: is I just wanted to come back with something that 261 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: was like confident and and like some fun. There's nothing 262 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: wrong being fun. There's nothing wrong with feeling yourself. And 263 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: that's the headspace I wanted to get into before I 264 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: came back. I didn't want to come back depressed. Did 265 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 1: Donald Trump ever sue you? No, he never did. I 266 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: don't think he really had a case, but he's been 267 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: sued for everything. But that's what I'm saying. That's like, 268 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: I gotta be careful because I got like, you know, 269 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 1: I can't do I gets suped for everything. Yeah, that 270 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: has to be discouraging. It feels like you, in particular 271 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: a mixtape unde hundred thousand dollars for for what a 272 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: free mixtape song because it was a sample, Yeah, which 273 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: is crazy because everybody does that. So yeah, to get 274 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: somebody a hunt, you have to give a law of 275 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: professor a hundrand. Right. No, look, I can't disclose any 276 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: information about amounts of money that you can hear it 277 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: on a hundred grandly got but I definitely got sued. 278 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: But I mean, look, you feel like he was he 279 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: was picked on because of that, because everybody does that. Man, 280 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: jay Z do it. I hadn't heard the Great Dre, 281 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: I didn't heard Kendrick. I didn't heard everybody do it. Um, 282 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 1: you know what it's for me, I don't want to. 283 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 1: I'm not looking super deep into it, like yeah, like dude, 284 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: I think I think when that Lord for Next thing happened, 285 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: I think everyone was like whoo too. I mean, like 286 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: that really set it off. But like, uh, you know, 287 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: it is what it is. You know, It's like I'm 288 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: not I'm not sitting here like man, I don't know, man, 289 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: why is everyone was suing me? They must not like me? Man, 290 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like money, right, and 291 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: I feel him. I want money too. Your album is 292 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: out to day right, No, the videos out today. I 293 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: seen Charlottagne doing this research when I walked in here 294 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: and I heard you up and watched the video. You 295 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: just put it out, excited, excited over mcmill until I 296 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: see what its heat is at. Right, You know, but 297 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: doesn't it look like a positive more positive place. Yes, 298 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: but I just want to make sure you good because 299 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: you know, you'll come out a video. Didn't go back 300 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: to drugs. No, No, that's true. I mean it's been 301 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: a positive It's true though, But like, but that was 302 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: the thing is that was the other thing though, is 303 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: that is I started to see that that was like 304 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: that was my thing, you know, like like that's what 305 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: I was being what people were knowing me for. It 306 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: was like, oh, Mac Miller smacked white boy, like the 307 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: dude that's always on drugs, and I was like, that's 308 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: not tight, you know what I mean? Like, especially like 309 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: I got a young fans like I'm not I don't 310 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: want to I don't want to act like that. That's 311 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: it's cool. And then it's just a pointing to your 312 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: fans when you go away for such a long period 313 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: of time and they're like, dude, what is it? Yeah, 314 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: and it's like we love you. What are you? You 315 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying while you are And like like uh, 316 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I gonna say why are you hiding? Hiding? 317 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: But I stopped but uh but no, but um but 318 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: like you know, like a lot of a lot of 319 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: a lot of my friends that that make music and 320 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: also did a lot of drugs. If you know, quit 321 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: doing drugs, you know. I mean I think I think 322 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: you just get to a point where you're just like, okay, 323 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: this is just this is I'm doing too much to 324 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: write music though, was you Was that part of your 325 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: writing process back then? No? No, yeah, I used drugs 326 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: to do everything. Brush my teeth you know, still sound 327 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: the same, It still sound good. Because some people need 328 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: that for their lyrics. No, I mean I think I 329 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: think uh no, I mean I don't think I need it. 330 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: I think it's more about what headspace you're in. But 331 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: like I said, it was a like I have a 332 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: lot of people around me to care about me. What 333 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: did your mom say to you? Yeah, I mean she didn't. 334 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: I mean she didn't know. And then I hit her 335 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: one time and I was like, just told her the 336 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: truth because I'm crying. No, probably maybe a little cry 337 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: of the type call not like the ones we have. 338 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: It was different. No, it was like no, I mean 339 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: I think I just kind of broke it down for everyone. 340 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: And then after I broke it down for everyone, like 341 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: it made it like it makes it that much more 342 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 1: difficult to come back because everyone's like, you're all right, 343 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: and then I'm like, yeah, man, I'm fine. That's you know, 344 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: like that for a while though, Yeah, but I'm not. 345 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: But this thing like I'm not like I'm not out here, 346 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: like like fucking never was that? You mean, like like 347 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: like I'll do it, like I'll raise somebody for crack, 348 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: but like I'm not gonna goodness um nah, but uh 349 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: but um nah, I'm what are gonna say? I'm not. 350 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: I'm not out here like completely like on some born 351 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: again Christian I don't touch a drink. I don't right now, 352 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 1: right exactly. Like I'm still having a good time with 353 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: my work progress, but I'm saying this is this is 354 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 1: this is progress. This is progress. But I'm just what 355 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: about your MTV show? Did you lose that? I didn't 356 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: lose it. I quit it because because it was time 357 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: to make room for Tiger. Everyone knows that they was 358 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: trying to get him to get White Rabb. I'm like, no, 359 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 1: you can't go get mackelmore. No, no riff Raff, give 360 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: it to Tiger. But no, like is having all this 361 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 1: controversy with people thinking that he sleeps with transgenders. Why 362 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: I opened up, back up, I gotta ask you, have 363 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 1: you ever been about the show show? Okay, well no, 364 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: I never, I've never. I've never been fooled by a 365 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: transgender not even almost, not even almost. O I know, 366 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: I know. So MTV two show No. Because I wanted 367 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 1: I didn't lose it. Um. I wanted to not go 368 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: down as a reality TV star. And I think that 369 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: it was like, that's such a big platform that like 370 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: that moves, it's at a rapid pace and it's on 371 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: repeat all the time, that people are always seeing you there. 372 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: That like I wanted to like step back and be like, 373 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: let me make sure the music stands front. And also 374 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: it was like my schedule was ridiculous. I would be 375 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: on tour, come back, have two days off, and I'd 376 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: be shooting both those days and I was like, this 377 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 1: is this is too much. That's supposed to be your 378 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 1: day off and right, and it was doing great too. 379 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: It was one of your own big one. You don't 380 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: help your people though, because I'm sure your people will. 381 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 1: They were they were halfway stars on this. Oh yeah, 382 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 1: they probably got more of a giant and because of it, right, 383 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: they do Okay, Actually, that night when you are hung out. 384 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 1: I was like, this has to be annoying because Mac 385 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: Miller when we had those drinks that night with you 386 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: and your friends. Yeah, they would not leave him alone 387 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: everywhere he went. Every it was very man. It's and 388 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: and you know, it's just and he didn't have security 389 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: that day, so that was really bad. Angelo. Yeah, I 390 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: was there. No, I have security, I have I have 391 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 1: I have I have security at certain things, but that 392 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: day in particular. Yeah, sometimes I just roll out because 393 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: I like I like to do that, Like I like 394 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: to just walk around and people be like, yo, you 395 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: have no security. And it would be like like like 396 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: little bit like little like little white kids going like 397 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: you don't need security. I was like, why I need 398 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: security for me? Like what do you mean? Like, No, 399 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: I'm good with the crew at now. I don't see 400 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: nothing with you today. Early. No, I'm everyone's doing that 401 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: thing like like the homies are are q Q was 402 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: in La. He just got back from doing a panel 403 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: at Obo Fest. Uh, Jimmy's hitch hiking across the country 404 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 1: right now. Jesus Christ, get back together, Mac everything. I'm 405 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: back together, man. Everyone. You know, everyone's on the soul 406 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: searching mission right now? What about big Dude Dave Dave? 407 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: They're killing it doing what Dave bouncing at the club. 408 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be like, man, I mean, you're gonna be like, hell, yeah, 409 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: what's up, dame? How are you? And I'm gonna be 410 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 1: like Mac, Mac did this to you? Why is it 411 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: gotta be me? Because you man, Look, I'm not together. 412 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm it's not Look. I just want everyone 413 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: to know. It's not that serious. You know, I'm straight. 414 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: It's like everyone you know what I mean, Well, happened 415 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: to the house. You still got the house at Big House. No, 416 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: that's a I moved out of there. That was what 417 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: I'm saying. That wasn't good for me. You know, I 418 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: don't mean you know all that. That's the other thing 419 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: is by nature, I don't need all this excess. It 420 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: was kind of for everybody else to have fun. Yeah, 421 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,199 Speaker 1: it was like a lot of fun. I didn't need 422 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: all I needed to do. You feel like it was 423 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 1: people leaching off you? Nah? No, no, no, no, you 424 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 1: were happy to be jan I was. I was. I 425 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: loved What What what am I gonna do with all 426 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: this money? Hey? Now I got no cash on me. 427 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 1: You see the way my bank counts set up? Nah, 428 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: but but nah man, I mean I I wanted it 429 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: was less about anything that had to do with a 430 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: dollar and more about that I wanted to kick it 431 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: with my people as much as possible. What are you? 432 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: What are you reading nowadays? That keeps you keeps your 433 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: your energy up because you know, if you if you 434 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: listen to McMillan, he's kind of a deep guy. Yeah, 435 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: you know when you listen to this music, well, that's 436 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 1: you know, this is just uh That's one thing though, 437 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: is that uh no, there's there's some moments on this album, 438 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: but it's it's uh, it's less it's less of like 439 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: asking all these questions, you know, and it's more of 440 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: like because the last albums like this kid who's like 441 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: going through life and ask all these questions to asking right, 442 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying very like like we're like 443 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: what are stars? Where the stars come from? Like you know, 444 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 1: and this is a little more like uh like let 445 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 1: me just be direct and like I don't care, like 446 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 1: I don't, I don't, I don't. I'm not I'm not 447 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: tripping about what my places anymore. I'm not worried about 448 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 1: what's what what I can and can't do. Um, I know, 449 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 1: I know who I am and like I and I'm 450 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: just gonna wrap and have a good time. They're not 451 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: taking subliminal shots at anybody and eating for that. There's 452 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 1: no subliminals talked away real deep but nothing to anyone wants. 453 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: Kind of wrong with asking questions though, man, especially if 454 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: you look at for answers. No, for sure, for sure. 455 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: But I mean I think I think that that there's 456 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: a time and a place for every different kind of 457 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: identity in music, you know, I think that they're that that, Uh, 458 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: it's okay for artists to to jump around and and 459 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: not always be so consistent with the identity they carry 460 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,360 Speaker 1: um in their music because humans are way more complex 461 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 1: than that. Absolutely, you're not You're not always this dude, 462 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: you know, like like you even take like Kendrick Kendrick 463 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: just put out that for free video, right and everyone's like, oh, 464 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: Kendrick has a sense of humor. It's like, yeah, Kendricks, SA, 465 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:28,239 Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Like and it's like and 466 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: so it like for me, it's like, uh, like I 467 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 1: want to make sure I cover all the all the 468 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 1: all the different identities that come with being a human. 469 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: I think the key to that is just being yourself. 470 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 1: That's that's something I think POC did so well. You know, 471 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: even guys like nah, they oh, they're they're hypocrisis. One 472 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 1: minute they're talking about this, the next minute they're talking 473 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: about that. But no, they're just human exactly. And that's 474 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,959 Speaker 1: that's such Like, that's like my main focus is like 475 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: just keeping it real myself and like and talking about 476 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 1: what I feel, because you see, you can go back 477 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: and you see yourself going through this wild emotional journey. 478 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: You know, you see yourself with moments of like, damn, 479 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: I was fool of self doubt there, and then damn 480 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 1: I was really feeling myself right there, and and there's 481 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: a place for all of that, you know, and you 482 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: don't have to you don't have to hide any part 483 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,360 Speaker 1: of yourself. Um. And I think in music, a lot 484 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: of times people get tied up in in the in 485 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: the the wrestling aspect of it, you know, like like 486 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 1: the theme music and walking in and this is my 487 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: character and and I'm this guy, and it's like, nah, man, 488 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: you there's no way you're that every day in your life. 489 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 1: There's no way did you do you run. I think 490 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: you run from comparisons, like I remember MTV though we 491 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: want you to be the new Rob did right right? 492 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 1: I know what I'm saying, like, do you gotta understand 493 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: for someone who's for a kid who's trying to find 494 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: his identity, when someone is telling you you're the new this, 495 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: You're automatically gonna be offended. I'm saying, you're gonna be like, 496 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: I'm not the new Rob, Dude, I'm the first Matt Miller. 497 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: I'm not the new eminem On, the first Mate Miller, 498 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 1: Like you're always gonna do that, but now it's like, man, whatever, 499 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: I'm not like, I'm not tribbling. It's everything is about 500 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: if you're comfortable with self. All that is like people 501 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: can say whatever. So I did get comfortable with self 502 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: real quick. When you're scared of Kendrick's control. Verse scared, 503 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 1: no bro old, But no, no, no, not at all, 504 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: not at all. I was actually you know what I'm saying, like, 505 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: like no, it was so wild. How how I think 506 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: even he was surprised with how how much, how big 507 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 1: that was? Um, but nah, I would put you. He 508 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: mentioned you, so he put you right into that class 509 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: of like new New greats. Right, But but I'm saying, like, 510 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 1: you know whatever, like as he should? You know, um, 511 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 1: and like it was tight because Kendricks someone did I 512 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: look up to as an artist and and and it's 513 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: in respect as an artist, but like as he should, 514 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: I'm not like I'm not like I with myself. I'm out, 515 00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: do you really put yourself? Do you d do you? 516 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: Are you really happy with what I'm saying. That's where 517 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: I had to get to you know what I'm saying. 518 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 1: I think there was a there was a long time 519 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 1: where like with someone who loves this music as much 520 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: as I do, it was difficult for me to know 521 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: like like the I like what I'm doing, my career paths, 522 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: what that makes my life? Like what what being a 523 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: white rapper means to my life as opposed to be 524 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 1: if I was black or Latino or something. You know 525 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Um, all these things were these demons 526 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: where now? And that caused me to like not with everything. 527 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,439 Speaker 1: So now it's kind of like all right, dude, Like 528 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: it's kind of like looking in the mirror. It's like 529 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 1: stop being like a little bit like get up man, 530 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 1: right exactly and take it or else or else are 531 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 1: gonna give it away? And that's you don't want that, 532 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: you know what what I'm saying. So, now that you've moved, 533 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: what's different about your living arrangements? Like who's with you? 534 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,919 Speaker 1: And can you tell me about Yeah, he moved out 535 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 1: of the house. Yeah I moved. Like so I have 536 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 1: a spot in La in the spot in New York, 537 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: spin La, I live with my brother. Um, you might 538 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 1: have win broke for real and ain't telling us if 539 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 1: he has in New York. You know you gotta have 540 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: money to me here, but might love with his cousin 541 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: in New York. Who you live with in New York? 542 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: With my girl? Oh mac Man, chill out, bro. You 543 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: know you don't see you don't see his wedding ring. 544 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear you got married? No, hell no, 545 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: I'm crazy now. No not your girl seven years bro? 546 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: Oh that's what's up? Man? Hey man, that's dope. Um 547 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: she's black and white mixed okay, so um no, but uh, 548 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: my living arrangement is different. It's chiller, it's not it's 549 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 1: not this wild this wild life all the time, which 550 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 1: was something uh, David Bowie, remember my dad told me this. 551 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: My Dad. I was like, you know, I was watching 552 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 1: this David Bowie documentary and uh, he went through a 553 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 1: huge cocaine phase and then he moved to New York 554 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: and got a really nice apartment and just hung out 555 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 1: and lived. I was like, yeah, Dad, you know, but 556 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: what the hell was the point of that? In New York? 557 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: You switch up your environment. It's cocaine in New York. 558 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: For sure, there is god. He just can't have no positivity. No, No, 559 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 1: it's okay. I feel trying to see what my guy's 560 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 1: head is in. No, but of course there's everything in 561 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: New York. You cannot let a location have power over you. 562 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 1: But but it can't run from yourself. You can't. Just 563 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: wanted to change. I wanted to get another spot. It's 564 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 1: not that serious. I just wanted to environment. I felt 565 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: like picking up and moving. I could just sign a major. 566 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: I can be by coastal, you know what I mean? 567 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: If you bisexual, I can be by coastal. But who 568 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:58,239 Speaker 1: do you prefer? Me? But on on on a on 569 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: a lighter topic, though, I gotta say this. So I 570 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: was at Starbucks on my way here, and the person 571 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: behind the register came at me crazy girl, girl, girl, 572 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: so I came. I came and and I was like, hey, 573 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: like coming to get a cold brew. I need to 574 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,479 Speaker 1: wake up. It's early. And she was like, I know 575 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: your mac something. I seen you on. I've seen you 576 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: on I've seen you on a wild Now you was trash. 577 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: He said you had She said you had no cuts. 578 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,719 Speaker 1: They was cutting you. I was like, I was like, 579 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: I was like, what do you At first, I was like, 580 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: I was like, damn, can I get a I said 581 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,959 Speaker 1: to vent venty cold brews? No. I was like, I 582 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: was like, uh, damn. Really, I was like I thought 583 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: I killed it. It was pretty good. She's like, nah, 584 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: you can't kill it. They killed you. You had no jokes. 585 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: I was like, this is crazy. Supposed to treat you 586 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: like start making these public appearances, taking the more serious yeah, 587 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: Like like like, but like what if that really messed 588 00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: up up my whole coming to the show today? Like 589 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: what if I walked in like, man, where are you 590 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: back on wine? Now? No? I was tight, I killed 591 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: Nick Cannon. You gotta respect everybody's feel It's just an opinion. 592 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: I thing. No, No, No, I was funny as hell. 593 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: I was like amazing. I was like, Yo, this she's 594 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: just amazing. She just trashed me at seven forty five 595 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: in the morning from behind Starbucks, like just killed me 596 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: and I had nothing to say. You gotta expect the honesty, though, Yeah, 597 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: I was like I was like, I was like, it's like, 598 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: she's like, yeah, you got you got killed you with 599 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: no jokes. I was like, yeah, well, you know it's harder. 600 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: Just check out my new video, you know what I mean? 601 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: Can I just get that coffee? Thank you God bless 602 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: you know. I remember the rule of ten man. Three 603 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: people are gonna like it, through people are not gonna 604 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: like it, and four people are not even gonna care, 605 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: right exactly, And that's fine. Just say it to my face, 606 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: not on Twitter, right. But I'm I'm dude. Like That's 607 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: the other thing is like I'm cool with whatever, Like 608 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 1: I'm really like, like you got to separate the difference 609 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: between what's real and was not. Like I have a life, 610 00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: and that's what was a big part of these paths 611 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: this recent times was like living, like getting back to 612 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: being a human being, going out, like getting to drink 613 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: with friends, go like caring about that, going taking a trip, 614 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: exercise a little bit, you know what I'm saying. So 615 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: you feel like you lost yourself in the industry. Basically, well, 616 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: I feel like I got too tired because I was 617 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: maturing as as as somebody in this and I think 618 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: I was, uh you you you look at uh you 619 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: you just kind of look at this too seriously seriously 620 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: And when you're worried about your legacy too much, what 621 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: am I going to leave behind? How am I gonna 622 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: be remembered? All that? Man like you got today. Absolutely 623 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: enjoyed the moment exactly. I mean, you do got to 624 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: think for the future because everything you do in your 625 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: life today does affect what happens in your life to 626 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: the moment. Yeah, but you still gotta enjoy the moment, right, 627 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: I mean, just don't be don't be an idiot, and 628 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: trust your gut, trust yourself. So it's the new album 629 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: gonna be on some like commercial record label. No, hell no, 630 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: I would not do that fun silly stuff. No, no, no, 631 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: hell no. No. They still you to make your own decisions. Yeah, 632 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: that was that was a big thing. There's no like 633 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:08,719 Speaker 1: executive producer, there's no an or, there's no there were 634 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: labels that I got that vibe from that. They're like, yeah, 635 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: you should come here, because we got the best producers 636 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: and da da da da. And it's like but the 637 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: warner was really like, look, whatever you did so far 638 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: working you do you whenever you want to give us 639 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: a radio single, let us know. You know, it's like okay, 640 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: word sounds good. Yeah, So like you know the album 641 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: that I would I would never sacrifice making the most 642 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,959 Speaker 1: important thing to me is making a good album. Good Am, septembrayteenth. 643 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: And that's what I said in the meeting. I said, 644 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 1: I don't like if I sell singles or not sell singles. Whatever, 645 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: I want to sell albums. That's what I want to 646 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: move albums. Why good Am? Is it actually good morning? Yeah? 647 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: It's like it's yeah. No. Idea actually helped me come 648 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,719 Speaker 1: up with the because I didn't like good Morning as 649 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: a title, but I liked it as a concept, like 650 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: because I wanted the album to be like that that 651 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, like like we'll talk came about 652 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: you know, it's like the breath of fresh air. Like 653 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: you it's like you walk out the door and you 654 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: go to Starbucks, you get trash. But what I'm saying 655 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: is I wanted I wanted that feeling um um of 656 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: like just just something refreshing and uh and I was 657 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: talking to no Idea and Studious playing some records. I 658 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, it's called good morning, but I don't 659 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: like that title. It's too simple. He's just like called 660 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: good am. He was like okay. I was like okay, 661 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: He's like, now I'm executive. He's like, now let me now. 662 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: You know, but that that was dope that he did that. 663 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, he's still cool with Q. Yeah, que someone 664 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: who also like ques qu Is. Q is a clean 665 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: like Q is. You're talking about school with Q, right, Yeah, 666 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: he's clean. He's like he works out all the time. 667 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,479 Speaker 1: He doesn't do drugs, he doesn't drink really, he stopped 668 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: smoking as much. Like he's like really focused right now. 669 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: It's just beautiful. That's the kind of association you want 670 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: to be herod right exactly. You know, you know, hey, hey, yeah, 671 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: good Day the eighteenth is to day middle ladies and gentlemen. 672 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: We appreciate. That's a good influence, great influence. Hey man, 673 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: I'd rather than drink and do drugs. It's the breakfast clubs, 674 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 1: Black a mellow