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Enjoy the show, guys, Join us now 18 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: for our weekly partnership segment with the Daily Poster is 19 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: founder of that outlet, the man himself, David Sarotta. Great 20 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: to see you, sir, Good to see you man, good 21 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: to see you. Absolutely so big news this week Stephen Bryer, 22 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: Supreme Court justice is retiring, allowing Biden and sent Democrats 23 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: to fill his shoes. And you have a piece up 24 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: at the Daily Poster. Let's go ahead and throw this 25 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: up on the screen where you say another Supreme Court 26 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: corporatist would be a disaster. Now, I think a lot 27 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: of people would be surprised to learn, because all they've 28 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: heard from the media is o'briar's a liberal and he's 29 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: a consistent, reliable vote on the liberal side of things 30 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: that he's been pretty bad where it comes to corporate power. First, 31 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: lay out his legacy and then we can talk about 32 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: the moving forward. Sure, over the course of his career, 33 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: Stephen brier has been a fairly reliable vote for the 34 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: agenda of the US Chamber of Commerce, which is the 35 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: biggest and most powerful corporate lobby group in America. So 36 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: the Chamber files amekus briefs which urged the Court to 37 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: rule this way or that way, and that's the best 38 00:01:55,880 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: way to know what large corporations in America really wants. 39 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: And over the course of his career, according to the data, 40 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: he has voted with the Chamber of Commerce a majority 41 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: of times that the Chamber of Commerce has weighed in 42 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:17,239 Speaker 1: on cases. So he has been a reliable vote against 43 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:21,679 Speaker 1: stronger anti trust enforcement. He has been a vote against 44 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: various environmental issues when it comes for instance, he was 45 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: against a state mining ban. He voted to help empower 46 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: energy companies to build pipelines through public lands. So the 47 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: point being, we could go through the list here, but 48 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: the point being is that Stephen Bryer, even though he 49 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: was appointed by Bill Clinton, or maybe perhaps because he 50 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: was appointed by Bill Clinton, he has been a reliable 51 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: vote for big business. And the problem is is that 52 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: we live in an era where the Supreme Court has 53 00:02:54,520 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: become very extremist, even in compared to recent court the 54 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: Roberts Court has become very extremist when it comes to 55 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: siding with big business. That essentially the Roberts Court, and 56 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: let's remember John Roberts used to represent the Chamber of 57 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 1: Commerce as a lawyer. That the Roberts Court has become 58 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: a reliable, probably one of history's most reliable blockades of 59 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: policy for big business. So I'm just really glad that 60 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: you're focusing on this. Nobody ever, seems to understand that 61 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: the law has immense implications for how big business operates. 62 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: Can you just describe what it means exactly to side 63 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: with the Chamber and Court, Like, what does that look 64 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: like for people? Sure? I mean, look, Stephen Brier didn't 65 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: support all of the Chambers amicus briefs. But broadly speaking, 66 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: the Chamber of Commerce is not only putting forward judicial 67 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: nominee names. I mean, that's one of the things that 68 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: it has been doing. But these amicas briefs pushed the 69 00:03:53,560 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: Court on everything from union rights to federal agencies regulatory power, 70 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: to the ability of, for instance, the SEC to crack 71 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: down on Wall Street banks. Bryer, by the way, was 72 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: a vote for a ruling that essentially limited the SEC's 73 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: ability to punish corporate criminals. So the point being is 74 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 1: that the Chamber of Commerce is in these divisive cases 75 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: where there are questions about the law. Can the SEC, 76 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: for instance, seriously punish a Wall Street bank? The Chamber 77 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: of Commerce is filing detailed amikas briefs to try to 78 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: essentially influence those rulings to make sure the Court comes 79 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: down on the side of corporate power. And David, I mean, 80 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: this is kind of a lay up for you, But 81 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 1: I want to go ahead and ask it. Why is 82 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: it that the media doesn't explain this? Well, I mean, 83 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: we've all heard a lot, and I don't want to 84 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: downplay these decisions are important in Bergafell, you know, the 85 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: right for gay people to get married, the right of 86 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: women to choose for themselves, row versus way. These are 87 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: important things. But we hear a lot about those cases, 88 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: and most people have never heard anything about these other 89 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: instances where their work lives and their economic reality are 90 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: impacted by what the court does. Why is that, David Serota, Well, 91 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: corporate media is corporate, So corporate media isn't all that 92 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: interested in telling the story of how the corporate America's 93 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: most powerful lobby group is winning case after case after 94 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: case at the High Court. So there's essentially it's kind 95 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: of a baked in bias. I would argue that corporate 96 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: media is not interested in this now. I would also 97 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: say that a lot of these cases that deal with 98 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: corporate power are esoteric. They deal with seemingly small, very 99 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: detailed issues. There was a ruling, for instance, contentionioners sue 100 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: their retirement fund of their retirement fund is mismanaging their 101 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 1: money and it deals with very arcane parts of the law, 102 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: so in some ways writing about that can seem very 103 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 1: detail held, very in the weeds. But again it is 104 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 1: the It is sort of the machine thrumbing in the 105 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: background that the Congress will pass something or an agency 106 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: will try to do something, and then a few years later, 107 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: an esoteric case will come to the court, the Chamber 108 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: of Commerce will put forward in amikas brief and bam. 109 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: The agency is limited, the law is gutted or overturned, 110 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: and that keeps happening over and over and over again. 111 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: And what you end up with at the end of 112 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: the day is a legal system that has in many 113 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: cases closed the court outdoor courthouse doors to plaintiffs who 114 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: are trying to hold big corporations accountable. You have a 115 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: legal architecture that is rigged against the American worker, that 116 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: is rigged against the environment. And by the way, one 117 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: last thing one Stephen Bryer back in twenty ten months 118 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: after the Citizens United decision, I mean he had the 119 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: nerve to go out and say that the Roberts Court 120 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: is not at pro business, which is so ridiculous. And 121 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: I think we've seen these justices go out lately trying 122 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: to defend the legitimacy of the Court because I think 123 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: they sense that more and more people have caught on 124 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: to how rigged this court is. But the problem is 125 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: is that in a Supreme Court nomination fight, my guess 126 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: is we're not going to hear very much about economic issues, 127 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: even though that is mostly what the Court is doing 128 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: on a day to day basis. That we're going to 129 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: hear a lot about these Definitely, I agree with you 130 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: important hot button social issues, but we will not hear 131 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: near almost anything when it comes to what the Court 132 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: is doing on a day to day basis for big business, 133 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: and I would pause it one other reason, which is 134 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: that those hot buttoned social issues they break down in 135 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: along convenient lines. Publicans are on this side and the 136 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: liberals are on that side, and that makes it easy. 137 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: And these economic issues, as you're pointing out a lot 138 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: of times, you know RBG was on the wrong side 139 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: of some of those issues. Is liberal icon Stephen Brier 140 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: is on the wrong side of those issues, Justice Hagen. 141 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: So it complicates this narrative of you know, if you're 142 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: at Fox News, Republicans good and Democrats that, and if 143 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: you're at CNN AROUNDSNBC the reverse. It makes it a 144 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: lot more complicated and exposes actually, there's a lot of 145 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: treachery to go around here. And my fear, honestly about 146 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: this nomination fight, truly is that another Stephen Bryer would 147 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:30,679 Speaker 1: just lock in almost a guarantee that the Supreme Court 148 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: remains a corporate court. That even the discourse, the debate 149 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: how this nomination is discussed already, you haven't seen nearly 150 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: any discussion about what could be done to make the 151 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 1: court more on the side of workers. There's been discussions 152 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: about what is the what demographic groups may be represented 153 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: in the nomination pick. You've seen questions about the politics 154 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: of the nomination, but there's been very there's been all 155 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: almost no discourse, no discussion about the economic implications. I 156 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: remember back in the Neil Gorsich nomination, for like one minute, 157 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: economic issues and corporate power issues came up in a 158 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: very big way about that discussion about his ruling with 159 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: the trucker who was freezing on the side of the road, 160 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:18,719 Speaker 1: and it came up for one second, and it was 161 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: a big story for like one second, and I remember 162 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: being like, Wow, this is the first time I can 163 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: remember an economical corporate power issue actually being at the 164 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: center of a Supreme Court nomination fight, and then boom, 165 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: it was gone. And so what I worry about is 166 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: that without that kind of discussion, without that kind of 167 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: focus on the nominees' record and what kind of nominee 168 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: Biden is going to put forward, that you get another 169 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: Stephen Bryer, and it almost guarantees to lock in this 170 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: corporate court which has been putting its boot on the 171 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: neck of the American worker for sixteen years plus. And 172 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: by the way, according to the chart that you have 173 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: in your piece, Justice Gorsich the most reliable vote for 174 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: the Chamber of Commerce of all of the justices who 175 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: are currently sitting. We go, yeah, Now, this is why 176 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: everybody should subscribe to your work, by the way, because 177 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: you're talking about these issues in a way that you 178 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: won't find anywhere else. And we're always grateful for your time. David. 179 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thanks David, Thanks to both of you, our 180 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: pleasure always. Thank you guys so much for watching. Have 181 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: a great day. We'll have more for you later. All right, 182 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: bunch of stuff out in this new NBC News poll, 183 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: but one particular stat kind of caught our eye. Here 184 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: that we wanted to highlight for you. Let's go ahead 185 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: and throw this tweet up on the screen, all right, 186 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: The quote here from Harry Entton is no doubt Biden's 187 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: on popularity is playing a role here. However, Kamala Harris 188 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: has the lowest net popularity rating when you're in for 189 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: a vice president since at least Dan Quail. This for 190 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 1: the NBC News poll that is out this morning, and 191 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: NBC polling since nineteen ninety. And you can see here. 192 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: All right, let's first stipulate that this Dick Cheney plus 193 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: fifty one number, yeah, jousands comes right after nine to eleven. 194 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: So of course he and Bush had crazy popularity numbers 195 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: that you know quickly fell off a cliff. So let's 196 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: stipulate that. But however, you've got Al Gore plus twenty five, 197 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: Joe Biden plus nine, Mike Pence minus six, not good, 198 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 1: Dan Quilt minus nine, worse, Kamala Harris minus seventeen. Oh 199 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 1: my god. And here's the thing is, you know, always 200 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: with regards to the vice president, you're thinking in terms of, okay, 201 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: who might be the next nominee for a major party. 202 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: I mean, that's kind of what it's sort of an 203 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: audition for that, and you can see how Joe Biden 204 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: is now President of the United States. And that's a 205 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: major part of why is because he served as vice 206 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: president of the United States and Barack Obama for eight years. 207 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: But with Kamala Harris, that calculation was even more overt 208 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: because you know that is very possible Joe Biden will 209 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: only serve one term. So you really need to have 210 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 1: in mind, Okay, this is the next person that we're 211 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: gonna put forward. And as we've said many times here, 212 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: if you had, you know, just survey the scene of 213 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 1: who have the American people thoroughly rejected Kamala Harris obviously 214 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: they had had a chance to vote for and said 215 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: thank you. No. I would say she has in office 216 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: been even worse than what I anticipated. She's just unable 217 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: to give a single interview without embarrassing herself. You know, 218 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: all they do is leak how it's not her fault, 219 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: this or that or the other hasn't gone her Wayxism, 220 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: racism of course, and this just I mean, people just 221 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: aren't having it. She has no political skill, she's unlikable, 222 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: she hasn't been able to sort of assert herself on 223 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: any major issue. When they do put an issue in 224 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: her hand, she complains through her staffers to the press 225 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: that this is too hard to deal with, and so 226 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: you end up with a minus seventeen approval rating and 227 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: a dire situation facing dums. Oh that's right. Think about this. 228 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: She is almost doubly less popular than the guy who 229 00:12:56,280 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: couldn't spell fricking potato. Okay, that's how bad it is. Granted, 230 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: things are a little different in nineteen ninety than twenty 231 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: twenty two. But I think it's very very bad sign 232 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: for Kamala Harris, but even worse signed for the Institutional 233 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 1: Democratic Party, Crystal. This goes to the monologue you did 234 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: this week about Mark Cuban, which is that these people 235 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: really have no institutional credibility or bench in order to 236 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: fill the wants and the desires of the American people. 237 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: Joe Biden is dramatically unpopular. You know, it's even more 238 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 1: unpopular Kamala, and yet the Institutional Democratic Party is held 239 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,959 Speaker 1: hostage by her and identity politics and accusations of sexism 240 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: and racism that they cannot jettison one of the most 241 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: obvious political losers of a century. I mean, I cannot 242 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: think of one of the worst politicians to be on 243 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: the national stage in the modern age, and yet they 244 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: can't do a damn thing. It's amazing to me. Actually, 245 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: it shows you both how weak they are, but how 246 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: strong the hold of identity politics is on all of them. Yeah, 247 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: and corporate politics too, because they love her, we'll see, 248 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: I mean, because at this point they realize this is 249 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: a disaster. They realize this is a total and utter disaster. 250 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: But I'm not sure that they can figure out their 251 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: way out of it. And then even if they get 252 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: their wish, I mean, what they really want is to 253 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: be able to replace her with Amy or ideally, I 254 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: think Pete. Pete is really the choice of like the 255 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: democratic donor class and billionaire class. So even if they 256 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: get their wish and they replace her with Pete, it's 257 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: not like he's dramatically on policy. He's not better at all. 258 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: In fact, in certain ways he's worse because he's more calculates, 259 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: more committed to this idea of like you just you know, 260 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: crunch the mckensey spreadsheet and that's going to fill in 261 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: your values for you somehow, more sort of mercenary and 262 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: I would say effective in that way. But you know, 263 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: ideology wise, they're basically both committed to their own advancement 264 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: and that's about it. But in terms of popularity, I mean, 265 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: Pete did better in the presidential priority, actually made it 266 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: to the starting line, did well in Iowa, but there 267 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 1: was zero interest in him from what is supposedly the 268 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: of the Democratic base, which is voters of color. I mean, 269 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: he got like three people in South carol three black 270 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: people in South Carolina had to vote for him, despite 271 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: many efforts. I mean, they really tried, but there was 272 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: just the people just weren't interested. They weren't having it. 273 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: They saw through this guy. So even the savior that 274 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: they think is waiting for them in the wings is 275 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: going to be a total disaster. No, I think that's correct. 276 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: And this is the very interesting part of all of this, 277 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: which is watching and seeing them try to handle it. 278 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: They don't have any good options, which is why I 279 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: do think they'll stick with Kamala in the end. Look, 280 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: Biden said she will be my nominee running mate in 281 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. Even if he doesn't run, he has 282 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: to give it to her. She is the vice president. 283 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: And I do think there are enough people who are 284 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: in the Democratic base who would follow what Biden has 285 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: to say. Also, you know Obama and them would come 286 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: in possibly on her side. I don't see how they 287 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: could cast Well, that's the big question, isn't it. What 288 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: would Obama do? He's the guy. I mean, only Michelle 289 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: could beat her. But I don't think she wants to run, 290 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 1: so I don't know. Yeah, I think but if if 291 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: Obama backed someone else, that would create a permission structure 292 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: for people to move away from Comma. Now, he and 293 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: Kamala have history. They sort of came up at the 294 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: same time in politics, so they had an affinity. I 295 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: mean that was like the first fundraiser he did outside 296 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: of Washington was for Kamala Harris. So I do think 297 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: that there's kind of like a relationship affinity there. However, 298 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: I mean, Obama was right about Biden, you know his 299 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: famous like never under screw things up. That's a nice, sanitized, 300 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: nice way. Yeah, and obviously did not back his vice president, 301 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: and of course Joe said, oh I have to ask, Okay, sure, 302 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: she's kind of a plumber move on his part. But obviously, 303 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: like everyone saw through that, Obama liked Beto more. I 304 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: think he liked Pete Moore, although he said Pete was 305 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: like too short or something like that. True. I recently 306 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: saw Pat on the straight here. He's a short guy. 307 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: I don't trust that. I'm sorry, sorry short people against 308 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: short people. But it is true that it's great apparently 309 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: as a political problem. Anyway, that's the least of Pize's issues. 310 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: Let's just say that Obama is hardly the political genius 311 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: that he's been sold as, but he does have some instincts, 312 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: and I think he probably is clever enough to see 313 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 1: that Kamalo would be a disaster. So I guess that 314 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: would be one out indoors Hillary Crystal. I don't know. Yeah, 315 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: but that was about protecting his own leg It's true 316 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: because Bernie. You know, if Bernie does single pay or healthcare, well, 317 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: what does that makes Obamacare look pretty small and pathetic 318 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: and like the giant health insurance giveaway that it ultimately was. 319 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, to your point, I mean, he's no political 320 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: genius here, but I think he could probably see that 321 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris is a disaster. So if he were to 322 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: back someone else, or say, stay sort of studiously above 323 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: the fray or make moves behind the scenes, he would 324 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: be the one that I think could cause them to 325 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: go in another direction. So we'll see. There you go, 326 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: We'll see all right. All right, guys, thanks for watching. 327 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: We'll have more for you later. Always keep a very 328 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 1: close eye on the people who are around Joe Biden, 329 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: who's lobbying them, and the dollars that are being spent. Now, 330 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,959 Speaker 1: we've been warning here both even here and on our 331 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 1: past show about Steve Roschetti, who is the Deputy White 332 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: House Chief of Staff under Joe Biden and whose brother, 333 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: who he co founded a lobbying firm with, remains one 334 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: of the highest paid lobbyists here in DC. Miraculously around 335 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: the same time that Biden becomes president. Well, who's paying 336 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: mister Rochette. Let's go ahead and put this up there 337 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 1: on the screen. Amazon. This is recent disclosure filing. Show 338 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 1: has paid ninety thousand dollars during the last three months 339 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty one to Jeff Roschetti, who is the 340 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: brother of Steve Rochetti, to lobby on issues related to 341 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 1: the regulation of online marketplaces and consumer privacy, amongst other things. Now, 342 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: that is pretty revealing, don't you think. Which is you 343 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 1: have a small lobbying firm as described by Ken Vogel 344 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: here at The New York Times, who is pulling ninety 345 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: k so thirty k a month in order to lobby 346 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: on behalf of Amazon, who is the brother of a 347 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: senior White House official. Rashetti does not get nearly the 348 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: amount of view and like public consciousness that he deserves. 349 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 1: But he and his brother had one of the top 350 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: lobby shops here in Washington, and now all sorts of 351 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,479 Speaker 1: tech firms and others are paying his brother in one 352 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: of the most clear pay to play schemes that could 353 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: possibly exist here. And Biden simply doesn't seem to care, Crystal. 354 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: I mean, he said that, you know, his White House 355 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: would not be corrupt. He said he wouldn't have undue 356 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: influence and all this. You know, Steve Rochetti has said, oh, well, 357 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:45,479 Speaker 1: my brother doesn't lobby me. He lobbies the people around me. Yeah. Okay, 358 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 1: So if somebody works for you and you're like, hey, 359 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 1: the boss's brother wants a meeting, you're not going to 360 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: take it. They want you to defy your lying eyes 361 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: in human nature, everything that we know about familia on 362 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: networks in order to say that this is an outright corruption, 363 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: which it is, well And there's a few things to 364 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: say here too, which is that now is right now 365 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: a very critical time for Amazon and other tech giants. 366 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: We talked to Stolar last week about the markup of 367 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: an anti trust bill that was going on, and the 368 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: Senate passed out of the Jiujitiary Committee. So they're going 369 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: to be spending lots of money trying to push back 370 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:17,719 Speaker 1: on some of the things that are coming out right 371 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: now with new anti trust energy on both the right 372 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: and the left. So that's one thing to say here. 373 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: Another thing is Biden, even though he has some new 374 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: faces around him, he has relied on the same sort 375 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: of core group of guys for a long time, and 376 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 1: Rashetti is one of them. So this is someone who, 377 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: even though you don't see him in the public eye 378 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: as much as Ron Klain or jen Zaki or some 379 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: of the other high profile names, this is someone who 380 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:51,959 Speaker 1: has very direct access to the President, and that's ultimately 381 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: what they're paying for here. The other thing to say 382 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: about it is I shouldn't have but I looked at 383 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: like the replies and the quote tweets to this, and 384 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: they're so, I mean, it's all these Democratic partisans who 385 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: were like this isn't even that much money or who 386 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 1: were like everybody does this lobbyings come and I mean 387 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 1: all of these total like rationalizations of what is pure 388 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: corruption and yeah, everybody does do it. That doesn't make 389 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: it okay, that makes it worse, that doesn't make it better. 390 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 1: And Joe Biden said he was going to restore the 391 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: soul of the nation and that it was, you know, 392 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: turning the page from the corrupt era of the Trump administration, 393 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 1: which was wildly corrupt, and they just operate in the 394 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: same way that everybody else does. So yeah, it's important 395 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 1: to know where the money is going, who is going to, 396 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: and how the game's ultimately being played, which is what 397 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: Ken Vogel's exposing here. And you know, we had a 398 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: second one here Tony Podesta, John Podessa's brother, very very 399 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: close to the White House and some of the top 400 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: Biden aids one million dollars over the past six months 401 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 1: by the US arm of Chinese telecom giant Huawei to 402 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: lobby the Executive Office of the President. Bah Way is 403 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 1: of course banned by the Trump administration, upheld that ban 404 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 1: by the Biden administration to sell their devices clearly riddled 405 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 1: with spywear here in the US by the Chinese Communist 406 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 1: Party and very directly linked to their top government officials. 407 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: And we have Tony Podessa netting a million bucks from 408 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: those people. It just they know our system better than 409 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: we do. I always say that, you know, I love 410 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: that quote which we played here on the show of 411 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: that Chinese professor who's like, how do you think it 412 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 1: works in the US, And he holds up his hands 413 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: like this, He's like, you got to pay the right people. 414 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: Biden's son, the Podestas, they know that you can just 415 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: buy off these people and try to get the job done. 416 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 1: So outright in the open, a million bucks over six 417 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: months sounds nice, you know, honest work if you can 418 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: get it. And it's just outright corruption, which is right 419 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: here in the open. As you said, most Democrats don't care, 420 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: or they say but Trump, yeah, Trump was bad too. 421 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you. Yea, yeah, it 422 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: doesn't justify your that's where bar is at Trump, that's 423 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: your standard out okay, congratulations. Yeah. The richest people here 424 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: and in the surrounding counties are the people who are 425 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 1: willing to work with Like the Silesiat governments are the 426 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: easiest companies those are the ones who really get paid. 427 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: The more you're willing to compromise your morals, the more 428 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: money you're gonna make in this town lobbying for like 429 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: apartheid South Africa or like Uganda or something that's where 430 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: like the real cash money is, which is disgusting, but 431 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: there we go. Yep. Indeed, all right, guys, thanks for watching. 432 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: A lot more for you later. New York Times is 433 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: asking what to us was a little bit of a 434 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 1: hilarious question. Let's go ahead, throw this tear sheet up 435 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: on the screen. Can CNN's hiring spree get people to 436 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: pay for streaming news soccer? Well, people pay for streaming news, 437 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: just don't know the answer. Our show proves that they will. 438 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: The problem is that the people who want to pay 439 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: for that don't want to watch CNN. The amount of 440 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: trash and I know we're trashing them, but this is 441 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: very you know, it shows you a lot about how 442 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: these idiots think about the business, because you know, they 443 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: brought hired Wallace and this NPR All Things Considered co 444 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: hosts and Casey Hunter. They're signing these people you belong 445 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: to a million dollar deals. It's about together they're gonna 446 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: do Eva Longoria, Alison Roman is getting a cooking show, 447 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: but my personal favorite, Crystal is down in the below 448 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: about existing CNN talent. Here's what they want to charge 449 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 1: you for. Charge you for. Anderson Cooper will have a 450 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 1: show focused on parenting. Freed Zakaria will do historical events. 451 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 1: Jake Tapper will host Jake Tapper's Book Club, in which 452 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: he interviews authors. This is B minus content at best. 453 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: Is it that they're trying to charge people? This is 454 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 1: kind of what Fox News did. Yeah, and they had 455 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 1: the way Fox Nation is a total disaster. Yeah, they 456 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: had like Dirt does like a by Bible study or something. 457 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: It's the same that somebody has a cooking show. I 458 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: can't remember who it is, Like Greg Guttfeld has a 459 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: cooking show or something like that. I don't know, but 460 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: it was the same sort of concept of like, let's 461 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: take his hosts that, by the way, no one cares about, 462 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: and they only get views because they're part of this 463 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: thing that's squad in the background. No one is choosing 464 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: affirmatively to watch these people. Let's imagine that there's a 465 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,719 Speaker 1: desperate hunger so much for these individuals like Anderson Cooper 466 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: that they would watch content you know of him on 467 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: parenting or whatever. It's just it's hilariously bad. And the 468 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 1: amount of money they must be spending on this is 469 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: millions and millions. Completely insane to have a less good product. 470 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: The only one that I could see maybe that Alison 471 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 1: Roman cooking show could do well. Why would anybody pay 472 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 1: for that? You know how many good cooking shows. That's 473 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 1: what I was gonna say, is like, like you can 474 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: get that sort of stuff for free on YouTube. There's 475 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 1: a whole like a bunch of different cooking channel. So 476 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: it's hard for me to see people being like, I'm 477 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: gonna pay for a CNN service to get a cooking show. 478 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's and they didn't pick anyone that 479 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: I know of who different has succeeded in alternative media exactly. 480 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: You know, wouldn't you get someone who has like a 481 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,239 Speaker 1: track record of like, oh, people will actually show up 482 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: for this person. They have their own individual audience. They 483 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: don't understand that that's different from like the cable news 484 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 1: model that they have. And it's like, you know, Joe, 485 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 1: they Spotify bought Joe Rogan for a reason, or paid 486 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 1: Joe Rogan for the reason because he had a different 487 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: audience out there that they wanted to bring onto their platform. 488 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: This is literally not what's happening here, and it's just amazing. 489 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 1: And I always emphasize this. These people are subsidized by 490 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 1: their cable carrier fees because people like live news. That's 491 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: the only reason that any of this is valuable. But 492 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 1: a lot of these people have become egomaniacs and they 493 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: think that because they're on TV, people actually want to 494 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 1: watch them. No, no no, no, it's just rigged that way. Yeah, 495 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: people don't actually want to watch you. There's a reason 496 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 1: why none of you are actually doing well on social 497 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: media or would do well out here in the independent environment, 498 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: and they're about to find that out real quick. They 499 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 1: can't even offer you live news legally online, so all 500 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: they can give you is B minus T talk show BS. Yeah, 501 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 1: good luck, all right, have fun? Yeah, and post Trump, 502 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: even the rigged model isn't working for the only people 503 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: aren't even watching them now in the spaces where they 504 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 1: are and where the thing has been rigged to get 505 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: people to be to watch them. So I don't know. 506 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: It just shows you how not genius our supposed genius 507 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 1: leaders are and how little they understand what people actually want, 508 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 1: and so listen. I hope it will be interesting to 509 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: watch how it does. The other pieces that will never know, 510 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 1: because they'll never they'll never actually tell you what the 511 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 1: streaming numbers are for sure. It'll be totally hidden, totally faked, 512 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: and all of that. I can't wait to watch this 513 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 1: thing go down quietly. It'll be quietly shelved in a 514 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 1: few years, and they just won't say anything about it. 515 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: All right, guys, thanks for watching a while. More for 516 00:27:58,600 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: you later.