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Speaker 1: And now we welcome in the general manager of the

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Speaker 1: New York Football Giants, Joe Shane. Joe, congratulations, you can

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Speaker 1: get to sleep now at least a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. I'm looking forward to that. Never

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Speaker 2: taking a good player and you're thinking about the next day.

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Speaker 2: So definitely looking forward to catching up on some rest.

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Speaker 1: All right, So let's talk about the guys you guys

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Speaker 1: managed to bring in over the last three days. Let's

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Speaker 1: start with a duel Carter. If you would have just

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Speaker 1: watched him as an edge player, you get one analysis,

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Speaker 1: but you got the wash him for two years as

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Speaker 1: an off ball linebacker. First, So how did your ability

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Speaker 1: to see him play that other position help enhance your

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Speaker 1: use more on the edge.

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Speaker 2: Naturally, when you turn the film on when he was

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Speaker 2: automatically think of Micah because you see this guy playing

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Speaker 2: he could blitz. He can do all the things that

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Speaker 2: Abdul did when he was there. So or Micah did

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Speaker 2: sorry as Micah did. So as you continue to progress

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Speaker 2: and watch him grow, you knew he was a good

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Speaker 2: And his ability to bend and disrupt and they would

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Speaker 2: which was also attractive to us with the guys that

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Speaker 2: we have, that he has the versatility that we can

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Speaker 2: move him around, move him around with pieces like decks

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Speaker 2: and Cavon and Burns and Chauncey you know here as well.

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Speaker 2: So gives us some chess pieces to move around. So

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Speaker 2: he's going to be an important part of our defense,

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Speaker 2: you know this coming fall.

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Speaker 3: Joe, when everybody looks at his tape, they all said, well,

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Speaker 3: he's a blue chip, so we kind of all see

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Speaker 3: the obvious stuff. What did you learn about him that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the film, I'm not sure if I could get

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Speaker 4: But then you meet the kid and he's all ball

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Speaker 2: The amount of information he knew about the New York Giants,

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Speaker 2: You know all that stuff. You already heard the jersey

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Speaker 2: So but just his passion for football, his understanding of

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Speaker 2: like he's a he's a tough kid. It's all ball

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Speaker 3: We know because he did change positions after the first

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Speaker 4: He's only done it for a year.

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Speaker 3: When you look at his upside and the development that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the physical traits are freaky, you know, the initial quickness,

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Speaker 1: All right, let's jump to Jackson Dart quarterback evaluation question

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Speaker 1: in general, something we've talked a lot about our programming

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Speaker 4: What do you call this? Can you recall your place that?

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Speaker 2: And that's where you know, I believe, I really believe

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Speaker 4: So whether it was all the.

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Speaker 2: Way back the first time Daves and I did this

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Speaker 1: And then specific to Jackson, he's playing in a system

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Speaker 2: Yeah, every position we evaluate, we always say it's a

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Speaker 2: go watch him against a really good receiver in the league. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So you do that every year with the quarterbacks, because

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Speaker 2: you know, these college offenses are different. They're going tempo.

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Speaker 1: Was almost like the same seven to ten concepts and

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Speaker 2: Right exactly, it really is. And again when they go

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Speaker 2: They should be able to complete those passes. But what's

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Speaker 2: talk about a guy that'll stand in there, stare down

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Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of clips of those, you

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Speaker 2: like on Sundays, Joe.

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Speaker 3: You set yourself up by getting the veterans in the room,

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Speaker 3: which you told everybody you were going to do, so

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Speaker 3: you don't have to rush Jackson door into the lineup.

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Speaker 3: But as you develop him during his rookie season, Dave's

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Speaker 3: his learning curve is what you want it to be.

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Speaker 1: At the combine, Joe, so many people make a big

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got a chance to do both. Yeah, special teams.

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Speaker 4: When when when you.

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Speaker 2: Look at our current depth chart and you know seventh

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Speaker 2: rounders a lot of time, how do you go to

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Speaker 2: the game, Well, you need to be Goby's best friend

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Speaker 2: and play special teams and this kid has a history

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Speaker 2: of it. So again, speaking of the coaching staff, those

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Speaker 2: guys up there do a phenomenal job, Cam, Stephen Thomas

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Speaker 2: and Gobi. The amount of players that they watch throughout

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Speaker 2: the draft that they may or may not play on

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Speaker 2: special teams, but they'll go watch their offense or defensive

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Speaker 2: film and project based on their play style. So uh,

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Speaker 2: they cover the draft A to Z. They do so much,

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Speaker 2: it's great. And he was a guy that they pointed

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Speaker 2: out and said, hey, we'd like to work with this kid.

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Speaker 2: I mean six foot, he's two hundred pounds, he ran

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Speaker 2: four to three. Again, what can I coach? You can't

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Speaker 2: coach that into him. So you know a guy, a

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Speaker 2: high weight, speed guy that has special teams value and

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Speaker 2: can also play on defense. He's a he's a he's

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Speaker 2: a press corner that's physical in the run game. So again,

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Speaker 2: you look for trades that you can develop and give

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Speaker 2: them a chance to hang on the roster. And both

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Speaker 2: of those seventh round picks, you know, check those boxes.

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Speaker 1: Joey, we appreciate the time you got a n upstairs.

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Speaker 1: You guys are already calling on drafted free agents. I'm sure,

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Speaker 1: is this a much thicker UDFA class because you have

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Speaker 1: the last year of COVID, all the extra years and

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Speaker 1: it's just a larger draft class. Is this going to

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Speaker 1: be a better group of udfa's in general than we've

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Speaker 1: seen the last couple years.

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Speaker 4: I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: It's it's funny because we normally have about one hundred

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Speaker 2: and forty players on our board. This year and I

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Speaker 2: was complaining to the scouts all loong we had about

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Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty five guys, so we had twenty.

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Speaker 4: Five more players on the board.

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Speaker 2: And as we kept going through in the meetings, I'm like,

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Speaker 2: we got way too many guys in the fifth round,

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Speaker 2: we got way too many guys in the six like,

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Speaker 2: this is too many, it's too money, it's too money.

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Speaker 2: And we get to the seventh round and god, every

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Speaker 2: player that is on our board is in the seventh round,

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Speaker 2: and we've got like six names.

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Speaker 4: So it worked out that.

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Speaker 2: You know, again we had more names, but there were

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Speaker 2: more draftable players. So the free agent class may not

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Speaker 2: be as good. But again we've we've been able to

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Speaker 2: find you know, Ryder Anderson the first year Chat last year,

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Speaker 2: you know, came in made the team. That was as

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Speaker 2: an underacted free agent, so you know, Tommy DeVito made

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Speaker 2: the team. So there's players that that you can find

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Speaker 2: that you know, become contributors for the team. So you

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Speaker 2: know we're gonna we're gonna go up there and that's

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Speaker 2: where the scouts can make their money happy hunting.

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Speaker 1: Go get them, Jill, thank you very much, appreciate the time.

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Speaker 1: Joe general manager of the New York Football Giants,