1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's giving me 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: advice to many occasions. In occasion didn't notice, I'm not broke. 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: You know, He'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and industry 6 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 1: decision makers. It's what he likes to do. It's what 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: he likes to share. Now it's time to hear from 8 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: my man, Rashan McDonald. Money Making Conversations. Here we come. 9 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: Welcome to money Making Conversation. I am your host, Rashan McDonald. 10 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 1: I recognized that we all have different definitions of success. 11 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: For some ands ascizable paycheck. Mine is helping people wake 12 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: up and inspiring them to accomplish their goals and live 13 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,599 Speaker 1: their very best life. These are my passions and that's 14 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: what I want to do for you. That's why I'm 15 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: asking you listen to money Making Conversations some instances watch 16 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: money Making Conversation. I want you to stop tripping over 17 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: small challenges and prepare to rise above the bigger obstacles 18 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: that life will present to you. My next guest, Rachel 19 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: Hollis laid the found nation for her lifestyle branding media 20 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 1: companied by being a two time two time number one 21 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 1: New York Times bestselling author, Hollis connects with a highly engaged, 22 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 1: in growing global audience who treasures her transparency and optimism. 23 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: She's one of the most sought after motivational speakers place 24 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: host to one of today's top business podcast, It's a 25 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 1: Proud Working Mama four. Her uses the platform to empower 26 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: and embolding women around the world. Rachel calls Austin, Texas 27 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: her home. I'm born and raised in Houston, Texas, so 28 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: you know I love her more specifically the hill country 29 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: just southside of Austin, which is a beautiful wooded area. 30 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: She's on the show to discuss her new book. Didn't 31 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: see that coming, please, welcome to money making Conversation. I'm 32 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 1: gonna calling my friend because she's a Texan girl. Rachel 33 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: Hollis well based on right now. I got a home 34 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: in Houston, but my headquarters in Atlanta, Georgia. So so 35 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: I'm born in Houston, Texas, with the high school with 36 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: the college there. Got married in Houston, Texas. So Texas 37 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: is my my birth state. In my life style state. 38 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: So how does the field to live in Austin, my friend? 39 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: And how long have you been in Austin? It's steels fantastic. 40 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: I've been here a little over three years and moving 41 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: out of Los Angeles into Austin, UH is one of 42 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: the best decisions I've ever made in my life. Well, 43 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 1: I'm gonna just tell you this. I lived in Los 44 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: Angeles fifteen years, Okay, so I know the full five 45 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: at ten pm on a something not to be packed 46 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: like it's five pm, all right. I lived in the 47 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: first I lived in Hollywood right off for one on 48 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: one and um Hollywood right there, and then I lived 49 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: off and then I moved to Librea right there and 50 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: right across from UH liber topics. I lived in that 51 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: town homes over there, and then I closed it out 52 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: living in the palazzo right across from all the market, 53 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: the farmers market, right across from North have to walk 54 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: out of North Room the street light. I walked through 55 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: the street light, not going to North Room. That's how 56 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: I convenied my life or rate youel very successful either way, 57 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: I was living large. You're always living your right, but 58 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: that's what l A does for you. As allows you 59 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: the environment a live large, and then you move to 60 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: Austin and it just it just like immediately slows down. 61 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: So why was it important to have a move to 62 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: Austin for you and the most important in your family. Well, 63 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: I think, uh, for for several reasons. The first, the 64 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 1: impetus for the move was, I am a business owner, 65 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: and California is not very kind to business owners, but 66 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: Texas is. Uh, that is exactly right. Uh. So I knew, 67 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: I knew that I wanted to grow my company. I 68 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: wanted to grow my team, and I thought I had 69 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: a better chance of doing that in a state that 70 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: was a little bit more forgiving, was much lower cost 71 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: of living, just really practical reasons for why. And Austin 72 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: was one of my favorite cities in the world still is, 73 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: and so it made a ton of sense. But I 74 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: don't think I was even conscious of how much I 75 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: was gonna love getting back to the country and having space. 76 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: And I mean, I'm doing this interview with you, I'm 77 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: looking I'm on a hilltop. I'm literally looking out over 78 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: just just beautiful land, and it feels like such a blessing. 79 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: Every single day in my life, I look out at 80 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: this you, and I never take it for granted. I'm 81 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: so grateful to be here. You know, it's really important 82 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: that people understand what she's saying. Like, I grew up 83 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: in a little back store on me right. So I 84 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: grew up in the in the hood. Uh uh, the 85 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: six sisters, two brothers, both my parents, and the two 86 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: bedroom shotgun house. So space was always an issue. I 87 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: was always on top of people and so and so, 88 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: you know, people understand that created for a creative person 89 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: like me, I have to have I have to I 90 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: have to be able to walk out and not bump 91 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 1: into people. And so my home in Houston doesn't a 92 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: gated community is really nice. But then my property in 93 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: Atlanta is I have a little lake. And so when 94 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: I when I bought this property, I my wife, she 95 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: founded and I walked into the house. I said, I 96 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: wanted to buy my wife's you know, negotiate like that. 97 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: You just don't walk in the house and something like that. 98 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: Because I can look at the back and I saw water, 99 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 1: and water is such a common thing to me. And 100 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: so when I when I when I bring that up 101 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: because of the fact that you know, these are triggers 102 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: for you and you talk about that how because you're 103 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: really big into therapy and these triggers are important that 104 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 1: people understand how you can find that place where you 105 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 1: can calm your spirit, calm you, which in turn will 106 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: will calm your body because a lot of people don't 107 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: know the mental frame that you can can affect you 108 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: your body and a lot of difficult and a lot 109 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: of negative ways physically correct. Right. And and the thing 110 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: that I want to say for your listeners too, is 111 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: neither you or I grew up inside of privilege in 112 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: having money, so like I grew up super poor. Um 113 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: a lot of really difficult stuff in my childhood. And 114 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: so I just want to say for people who are listening, 115 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: who made me think, like, oh, it's so easy for 116 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: you guys to say find space or have of you 117 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 1: or well all of those things. I remember being a 118 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: little girl and going into my bed and closing my 119 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: eyes and using my imagination to imagine myself in a 120 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: different world than the one that I lived inside of. 121 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: I honestly didn't have the language to call that manifesting 122 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: or dreaming or naming big gold at the time, but 123 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: that truly was where I learned how to do it. 124 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 1: So you can envision the life that you want. You 125 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: can envision the space that you are hoping for years 126 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: before you ever make that thing manifest. So don't think 127 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: that you need the money or the house or the 128 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: property in order to find that piece for yourself. That 129 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: really is something that you can do through mindset and meditation. 130 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: This is I'm talking to Rachel Hollis her book. Didn't 131 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 1: see that coming. I'm tell you why I reve this 132 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: first time I've spoken to her. But you know, you 133 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: meet somebody, you read about them, and you do a 134 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: little research, you go, I love this person. Okay. First 135 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: of all, I don't know if you've heard this turn, 136 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: but you know of wich you Instagram account, and like 137 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: the way you stay because your your your toes point inward, Okay, 138 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 1: when you stay in there, that's called pigeon toad. I 139 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: don't know if you know. And I'm pigeon told. Okay, 140 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: so we're pigeon toad couple, pigeon to couple. Okay. So 141 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,559 Speaker 1: so so I said, so I said, was she's pigeon 142 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: to it. I love her. I love her. And then 143 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: I'm reading the book and she says, she says this 144 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: funny line and she talks about, you know, swallowing a 145 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: watermelon seed and you think a watermelon will grow in 146 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: your stomach, raise your hand. That was Rashan McDonald. Rushan, 147 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: I thought Santa Claus was real. I'm just gonna let 148 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: you know. That's how that's how simple my mind. That's 149 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: how simple my mond and so and so. Then another 150 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: thing I laughed out loud, and I was so fun 151 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: just listening in your book. Was the was the because 152 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: was the birthmark? The little mold? Oh my god, I 153 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: wanted the birthmark so bad. That's hilarious, you know. I 154 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: just I just wounded a little mold somewhere. I can 155 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: just that's my little sexy spot. Right there's you, and 156 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: you got it right there, you know, and you're talking, 157 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: you talk about it. So so we hit it off 158 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: where we hit it off in four Waste, Austin, Texas. Okay, 159 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: then you're a pigeontoe, and a lot of people need 160 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: to tell the pigeontoe unless your pigeon toe. You don't 161 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: know what you're talking about. Okay, you don't know what 162 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: that means. And then she has a beautiful birthmark. And 163 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: then she actually believed she swallowed the water melons water 164 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: melon will grow in stomach Rash McDonald well, And in 165 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: the book, the reason that I'm talking about the watermelon 166 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: seed is that i want to ask you as a reader, one, 167 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: are the things that you used to believe as capital 168 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: t truth that you now know we are not true? 169 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: Because if you held onto the belief about Santa Claus 170 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: or the Easter bunny or you know, the you know, 171 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 1: if I if I swallow an apple seed like it's 172 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: poison and it's gonna kill me, then you can ask 173 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: yourself what as an adult right now, what limiting what 174 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: thing are you holding onto right now that could also 175 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: not be true? And that is especially powerful when the 176 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: thing that you believe is about your own self and 177 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: your own abilities. Right Like, I feel like when people 178 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: grew grow up without not a lot of things that 179 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: they they sort of go one of two ways. They 180 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: either have that become their reality, like the world was 181 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: out to get me. I'll never get ahead, I'll never 182 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: have anything. My family doesn't have the resources they have 183 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: all of these things that they keep telling themselves, or 184 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 1: you maybe did what you and I do, which is like, okay, 185 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't come from anything, but by God, 186 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: I have the ability to wake up today and try 187 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: my best, and I can learn and use resources that 188 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: are out there that are free, and I can grow 189 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: and become something more. So, what are the things that 190 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: you used to believe that are actually you know, for 191 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 1: a factor not true? Well, dang, what are you holding 192 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: onto right now in your life? And didn't need to 193 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 1: let go up as well? And that's that's so true, 194 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: because let let's go back to my belief. There was 195 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: a Santa Claus, okay, And I was born and raised 196 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: in the hood. So I was holding them to anything 197 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: that I felt made me feel good, that made me 198 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: feel to con take me away from the world that 199 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: I knew wasn't the world I wanted to be in 200 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: because I lived in want the community to the until 201 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: I was ten years old, and then we moved up 202 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: to a little bit better black neighborhood. But still when 203 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: I walked outside, it looked like the same neighborhood, black 204 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: people all around me. You know, I got on the 205 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: bus and black people getting on the bus. So it 206 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: wasn't like my environment changed. It was just that my 207 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: lifestyle got upgraded a little bit. And so I believe, 208 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: and I'm telling you Honestly, Rachel, I believe in Santa Claus. 209 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 1: I was fifteen years old. I really did. I believe, 210 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 1: and so I did not. The bubble was burst when 211 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: my dad woke me up, okay, woke me up. He said, 212 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: come on, boy, we gotta put these bikes together. Go 213 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: bikes together. What you're talking about? And he took me 214 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: outside and uh, and he pulled these bikes that could 215 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: go there. I was so. I was so I don't 216 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: know if you say naive, but I was just so 217 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: wanted to believe that there was something else out there 218 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: for me other than what I had known and lived 219 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: that he told me, there's no there's nothing that doesn't exist. 220 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: So don't worry about that. Let's put these bikes together. 221 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: We gotta put all this fruit underneath, these Christmas trees, 222 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: these train tracks, we gotta put all this stuff underneath 223 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: so everybody can be happy. The morning that was my 224 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: that was my entry into adulthood. Right there. I went 225 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: from I went from like totally believing in Santa Claus 226 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: to like, huh, I'm an adult now. And so that 227 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: was like the cold slap in the face for me, 228 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: because you know, sometimes parents don't understand that that transition 229 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: of information can really can really do something to a child, 230 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: and it really I'm not saying it ruined my life, 231 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: but it was a moment where where I was really safe. 232 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: I was in a very safe space. And that's what 233 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: you're talking about. When you hold on to information, it 234 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: can keep you in a very space safe space, but 235 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: the agers who can hinder your growth absolutely. And what's 236 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: so crazy is that people will hold on to the 237 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: certainty because they do feel comfort in it, even to 238 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: their own detriment. Right, So, I mean, I think your 239 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: the your story about finding that out, it like makes 240 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: my heart hurt. And I don't know why this just 241 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: popped into my head, but the fact that it's something 242 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: that you still think about and you can hear when 243 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: you tell that story that it is a painful memory 244 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: for you, even if it was sort of a rite 245 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:32,959 Speaker 1: of passage. And of course your dad couldn't have thought, 246 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: you know, at fifteen years old, that you still maybe 247 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: we're holding onto that truth. I wonder what it looks 248 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: like in your life today, Like, have you ever thought 249 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: about I'm just thinking as we go into the holidays 250 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: and Christmas is coming around, like you ever thought about 251 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 1: doing something like putting effort into you know, do you 252 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: volunte volunteer or give presents or something to um UH 253 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: kids and foster care, or do you do something where 254 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: you are keep being the spirit of Santa Clause alive 255 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: other little kids. You know the thing about my personality 256 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: is that I always go back. Since I was eighteen, 257 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: I can always realize my mission is always to make 258 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: other people's lives better. I'm always be in a position 259 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: to make young people see there as opportunity, so I 260 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: make donations. I'm I'm tied to like specific programs, whether 261 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: it's entertainment program for kids who want to pursue entertainment careers. 262 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: I have a scholarship foundation at my alma made Universe 263 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: Houston for minority students who want math and science opportunities 264 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: and optometry opportunities and education. So so I've always had 265 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: that built in mechanism to make people feel good and 266 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: see opportunity. And then I'm a big Christmas decorator. Okay, 267 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: I loved that that that Christmas tree is going up 268 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: at my house. You know, I will spend money to 269 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: make sure people understand that I value and feel good 270 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: about the Christmas moment. The spirit of uplift, that spirit 271 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: of feel good, that that dominates my life. And so 272 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: when I'm reading your book, you know, don't see don't 273 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: didn't see that coming. You know your whole story when 274 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 1: you're telling from that tragic moment, you know mine is 275 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: nowhere near the tragic moment you're walking in your brother 276 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: Ryan and his suicide. But it was a Joe team 277 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: moment for me because I was in denial about there 278 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: was no Santa clause according to my parents when people 279 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: told me, I wrote letters. And when you can look 280 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: at the news, they always tell you he's flying over 281 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: the North Pole. They're telling that the news is telling 282 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: I just up and tell my friend. They would look 283 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: at me like, boy, you are so stupid. Really look 284 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: at the news. I validated. And so when you look 285 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: at the situation, like in regards to you, you see signs, 286 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: but you ignore them. And I think that that's what 287 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: happened in your brother's situation. There were signs and they 288 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: were ignored and then the reality is never a good 289 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: thing because the reality led to his suicide. So but 290 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: that was the point that the Joe to you, and 291 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: there was a writer of passage that you weren't prepared 292 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: to you. Yes, you had to do with it because 293 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: guess what it was thrust upon you? Yes, exactly. Well, 294 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: I think you know that is I think that most 295 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: people go through something in their lives that divides their 296 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: life in half. It's that pivotal moment, whether that happens 297 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: at age six or fourteen or thirty nine, where you 298 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: divide your life into before and after this thing. And 299 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: for me, the death of my older brother is my 300 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: before and after is it? You know, I describe it 301 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: as our family was was so was so not great, 302 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: but we were still clinging to something right. And then 303 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: Ryan's death was it literally was the stile that broke 304 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: the camel's back, like it just decimated whatever was left. 305 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: And as much as I have always been a really 306 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: mature even as a little girl, I was very mature. 307 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: I grew up, Like you said, you know, you grew 308 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: up in that moment. I grew up that day. Um. 309 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: I you know my parents really obviously you know, they 310 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: had just lost their son, but they really struggled with 311 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: keeping it together. And I remember being way too young 312 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: and you know, doing things that I shouldn't have been doing, 313 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: calling and telling family members that he was gone, or 314 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: helping to, you know, write the obituary, just things that 315 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: like I was fourteen, and in retrospect that would have 316 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: my own kids, I can look at that and see 317 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: how not okay it was. But at the same time, 318 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: I feel like that's what life is. Life are these 319 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: is this a series of moments where you you're you're 320 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: in it, and you're sort of asked to step up 321 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: and you're asked to figure it out. And um, that's 322 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: not the only time that's happened to me in my life, 323 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: and and and I think, honestly, it may not be 324 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: the only time for the rest of my life that 325 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 1: I go through something that difficult, which you know, I 326 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: think about this year, right, and everybody keeps talking about 327 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: and how they can't wait till it's over. I heard 328 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: it again on the radio this morning, like, oh, only 329 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: two more months until this horrible year is over. And 330 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 1: I just feel like people are in for such a 331 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: rude awakening, because I really do think that people are 332 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: clinging to the idea that on New Year's Eve at midnight, 333 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 1: suddenly all of our problems are going to go away, 334 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: and you're gonna wake up on New Year's day with 335 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 1: the exact same life that you had on New Year's Ease. 336 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: And this year, this really hard year of is not 337 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 1: the only hard year you're gonna live in the rest 338 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: of your life. Like, sit with that for a minute, 339 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: because I feel like people are like, I just got 340 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: to get through this thing. Well, great, what's going to 341 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:58,719 Speaker 1: happen three years from now when something even more terrible 342 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: happens to you or some and you love, You're gonna 343 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: look back on how you handle this moment, this year, 344 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 1: this hardship, and you're gonna ask yourself, did you step up, 345 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: did you do what needed to be done, did you 346 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: keep going? Or did you pull the covers over your head? 347 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 1: And and I hope that something was going to change. 348 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: You know, it's really interesting when I hear you talk 349 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: like that, and because you know you you you live 350 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: a life where you are moll You're just a regular 351 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: person who just happens to be a visionary. And that's 352 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: why when I ever hear people talking about I can't wait. 353 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: Those people are looking at them and I have to 354 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 1: walk away because my mindset and your mindset is already 355 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: deep into one. If that's what planners do, you can't 356 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: make money thinking thirty days cycle, you're thinking six months 357 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: in a year because you you think about rent, you 358 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 1: think about budgets. That's how you p that's how you 359 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: plan success. People who are thinking thirty days out, they're 360 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,239 Speaker 1: just people who are just in that rap wheel. They 361 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 1: just rolling just to be that bill, pay the light bill. 362 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 1: And you can never say money like that. And when 363 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: I when I look at what you're trying to do 364 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: with your life and what I've done with my life, 365 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: is that we're just trying to win, and we're trying 366 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 1: to win with advice on how you can win two 367 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: And that's the nice part about your brand. That's why 368 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: I associated so much with the way. I think we're 369 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 1: just doing in different ways. You know, you're being a female, 370 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 1: I'm being a male. But we're all trying to get 371 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 1: people to step up. But it was interesting. I've done 372 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: this interview with U re build you uh called impact Theory, 373 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: and it went VI it went back and it went viral, 374 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: and I was I was walking into a Whole Foods 375 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: and this guy walked up to me and when you 376 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: changed my life, you know, I'm trying to give me 377 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: some peanuts, Okay, I'm trying to give me some peanuts. Right, 378 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: this guy walks up to me, you with Sean McDonald, right, 379 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: I go, yeah, he said you changed my life. I 380 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: didn't know what he was talking about. And I and 381 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 1: I take that back to you in your book when 382 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: you're talking about lately walked up to you just exposed 383 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 1: to life in front of your son and you're trying 384 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: to figure out you know, this is a lifestyle that 385 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: you know that you we quested, but you didn't expect 386 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: the results to all this. And so so where I 387 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: get these moments, you know, do catch me off going 388 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: even though I know that I'm an award winning baker, 389 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: and so people have walked up. I'll be in the airport, 390 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: people go, there's my man, you can bake. I go, yeah, 391 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: you know, you know, yeah that's right because I do 392 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: post baking cupcakes on my on my social media, so 393 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 1: they should be able to recognize that. So how do 394 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: you deal with the unexpected even though you know you 395 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: should expect that. I guess the question I'm trying to 396 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: get to you right til to respond to you know. 397 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: I I think like, honestly, when you reach a new 398 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 1: level of success, you don't know what the heck is 399 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: going on? Right, You're like, whoa, this is wild? And 400 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 1: you know I do talk about this in the book. 401 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: It was very overwhelming for me to come to terms 402 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: with it, and I finally, did you know, I spent 403 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 1: months kind of vacillating between honestly, do I want to 404 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: do this? Which sounds well, I don't know how sounds, 405 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: but I really thought like, are you are you capable 406 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: of handling this much? Um like, honestly, like holding that 407 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: space for other people, are carrying other people's stories or 408 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 1: showing up in this way. And it took me a 409 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: long time to come to terms and to step into it. 410 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you practically, and I don't know if 411 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: this will help your listeners, but this is definitely something 412 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: for other people who have any kind of a platform. 413 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: I honestly made a decision that if I was going 414 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 1: to continue to do this work, if I am in public, 415 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: I am ready to be there for other people. So 416 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: nine times out of ten, no, especially in COVID, nobody 417 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: stops me right Like I'm like, I've got a mask on. 418 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: Maybe they don't even know it's me. They nobody stops me. 419 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: But I get stopped and when I get stopped, it's 420 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: not hey, I love your work. It tends to be 421 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 1: something much more in depth or much more emotional because 422 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 1: of the kind of things that I talk glad I'm 423 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: right about and in that moment, I just think, like, 424 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: I want to show up for this community. I want 425 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 1: to do the very best I can for them. I 426 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: went on a run this morning at the lake, which 427 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: is sacred practice for me, and I was running and 428 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: someone you know started yelling my name. Now I could 429 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: ably got air pods and I could just keep on 430 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 1: renning and pretend that I didn't hear that person behind me. 431 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: But again, if if I'm going to do this, then 432 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: I have to be in community with these people, and 433 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: I have to be grateful for that. And I want 434 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 1: those women, especially to know that I see them. And 435 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 1: so I turned around and ran back to her name 436 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: was Andrea, looked her in the eye, heard her story 437 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 1: want you know, gave her a moment, and then we 438 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 1: just kept I just kept on running because that's what 439 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: this is. So for me, like I said, it helped 440 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: me to prepare myself for the fact that I don't 441 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: know if I'm going to get stopped, but if I 442 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: am I feel like I have been blessed with this platform. 443 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: Now I've worked my butt off to get here. But 444 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: I also believe that God gave me this opportunity. And 445 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: if I believe that someone greater, something greater than me, 446 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: gave me this moment, this opportunity, this community of fans 447 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: and readers, then I am going to own that responsibility 448 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: and be present for them if they have a moment 449 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: with me out in the world. UM agree with you. 450 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: I'm talking to Rachel Hollis. Hey, Rachel, okay, you know 451 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: that's Rael. I didn't see that coming like that. I 452 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: didn't see that coming. Uh you know, Rachel, I I 453 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 1: managed Steve Harvey for like sixteen years of infect you 454 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: those one good Friends and two thousand he was a 455 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: very popular comedian. And and then I did did the 456 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 1: Family if You Deal? I did the Hoppercolin Deals with 457 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: the books that so millions worldwide, was translated in over 458 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: thirty different languages, and each step that went along, more 459 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: fame came his way, and I just got to watch. 460 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 1: So I when I hear your story, I I look 461 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: back and reflect because I truly understand what you're talking about. 462 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,719 Speaker 1: And he stepped along the way he used to fight it. 463 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: He used to fight that that that massive amount of 464 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: fame that came in the responsibility that came with that 465 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 1: fame and defining what was Hiver, What was his role 466 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: in all of this? I remember, you know, in in 467 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: twenty nine, two thousand nine, the book Think Like Act Like, 468 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: They Think Like a Man came out. You know, so 469 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: three million copies were on Oprah, like regular on Oprah. 470 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: We so sixty books in one day while sitting on 471 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: Oprah and uh, and you know, that's a massive amount 472 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: of books to sell. And uh and then uh and 473 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 1: then and then and then I did the Family Feud deals, 474 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: so we kind of crossed over. We went from a 475 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: very popular black comedian to uh, the comedian who was 476 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: being recognized as the people thought that was a joke, 477 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: a black comedian talking about relationship hips, and they just 478 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: exploded worldwide. And then with the Family Feud, and we 479 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: was crossing over, you know, even though our talk show 480 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 1: and then the talk show launched in twelve and so 481 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: I remember, Ineen, we was walking in Chicago and it's 482 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 1: large group of from the Asian community came over and 483 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: they couldn't speak English law, but they knew who he was, 484 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: and I went, I looked at him. I said, Steve, 485 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: your life would never be the same, brother, I said, 486 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: I said, they can't even speak English and they know 487 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: who Yeah, they know who you are. And it has 488 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 1: not been the same every since. And and I recognize 489 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 1: what you're saying, because you know, Rachel, You're only gonna 490 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: get bigger. You're You're you're introducing yourself and your brand 491 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: to my market. My markets are predominant African American market. 492 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: Of my followers are female. I think they just like 493 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 1: the way I bake. But of course I think I 494 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: do some nice things that motivate them to be successful 495 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: because they are entrepreneurs. Like I'm really big and pushing 496 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 1: our trepreneurs both male and female, and my my whole 497 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: volume of money making conversation. But when I when I 498 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 1: read your book, my biggest takeaway is that you know 499 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: your mom and and the testament. How women are becoming 500 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: such an entrepreneur or force in our society today. When 501 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: I look at women, you shouldn't you have to. You 502 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: can't wait till one because they are bigger opportunities for 503 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 1: I always believe this. My statement is that the COVID 504 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: as bad as it is allowed me to catch up. 505 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: It allowed me to level the plan field once I 506 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: got over the shock of the reality that, Okay, my 507 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 1: life is gonna change forever. And I didn't know how 508 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: many gloves I had to take to the grocery store. 509 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 1: I didn't know if I needed the matter. I didn't 510 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 1: know if I touched a gas pump? Should should? I should? 511 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 1: Like the parail, you can find that on the store. 512 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: What could I wash my hands? When? Once I got 513 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 1: over that shock, Rachel, I was good. I was good? Yeah, yeah, well, 514 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: And I think for this is always true for entrepreneurs 515 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 1: and business owners that I have such a heart for 516 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: this community as well, because I've been a business owner 517 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: for seventeen years. And what I know to be true 518 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: is we're not at the end of this. If we 519 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: found a cure today, we still would deal with the 520 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:21,919 Speaker 1: economic fallout from what has happened for years. And I 521 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 1: don't say that to freak people out. I say it 522 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 1: because as leaders and as business owners, we have to 523 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: be aware. It's not something to have fear about. It's okay, 524 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 1: what do I need to do to make sure me 525 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: and my team, me and my family are good? How 526 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: do I need to show up. How do I need 527 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: a pivot? How do I need to serve the community, 528 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 1: the customer, the clients that I have, so that I 529 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 1: can continue to grow, so that I can continue to expand. 530 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: I think we've all seen this. We've seen businesses who 531 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: have not been able to handle the pressure, and we've 532 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 1: seen businesses that have pivoted. Like you know, I live 533 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: in Austin, right, so I remember Tito's Tito's vodka, which 534 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: is my favorite saying to mix into a cocktail. Um. 535 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: When it first happened, you saw all of these liquor companies. 536 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: They were like, all right, we're making hand sanitizer. Now. 537 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 1: We just saw. We saw restaurants that had never ever 538 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: had driver figure out how to do delivery or curbside. 539 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: We we just saw. I love it because we've seen 540 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: the human spirit. We've seen the human spirit show up 541 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: again and again. And you know, I think about this 542 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: a lot because I have pivoted. I feel like I've 543 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: pivoted twenty times since March. You know, my my business 544 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: was predominantly from live events that I can't do anymore, 545 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: and that you know, you pee your parts over that. 546 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 1: That's a that's a punch in the face and you 547 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: can sort of sit down. And so many people, so 548 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: many people were like, just you know, close down this thing, 549 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: just get rid of this thing. And I'm like, nope, 550 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: I will find a way. And So what I would 551 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: say to those of you who are listening, who you've 552 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: got that side hustle, you've got that business, you're you're 553 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 1: you're trying to grow and expand you have got to 554 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: stay focused on where you are going. You have got 555 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: to fill up your cup only with the words and 556 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: the inspiration of people who are thinking like you are thinking, 557 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: meaning like, go watch those motivational videos on YouTube, Go 558 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: listen to podcasts that are going to inspire you. Because 559 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: if you listen to the world, if you listen to 560 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: maybe your mama, your friends, maybe your spouse, people are 561 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: so scared right now, and their fear will take hold 562 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: of your heart if you let it. And so I 563 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: just keep my eyes on the horizon. I keep my 564 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: eyes on the horizon. I know where I'm going. I 565 00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: do not let other people speak their fear into my heart, 566 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: and I stay focused. Because the biggest some of the 567 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: biggest companies in the world were built inside of a 568 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: recession and if you can just keep your eyes on 569 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: where you are going, to keep doing the work, keep 570 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 1: expanding the ways that you need to expand you will 571 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: come out the other side of this stronger and you 572 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: will have surpassed people who couldn't stay in the fight. 573 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: So just keep focused on where you're going and keep going, 574 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: my friend thirty minutes. Okay, our relationship has been flying along, 575 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: and it means it's been a great interview. Or Rachel 576 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: Hollis new book. Didn't see that coming, HarperCollins. I made 577 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: a lot of money with Happer Collins, so I know 578 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: they know me over there. Three number one best sellers 579 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: there were kept in the business there and I think 580 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: in two thousand nine. But again, thanks for coming to 581 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: my show. If you be a regular on my show. 582 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: And I said, yeah, thank you. You're amazing. Uh we are, 583 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: you know. We we obviously grew up differently, obviously your 584 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: ers are differently. But I so relate to what you 585 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: are experiencing, what you're trying to say to my audience 586 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: as well as to your audience. And uh, again, the 587 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: future is on the outside and uh, and the future 588 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: means we always speak to each other again in the future. 589 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: Thank you Rachel for coming. Bye bye, thank you. If 590 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: you want here more naication interviews, please go to Money 591 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: Making Conversations dot com. I'm Sean McDonald. I'm your host.