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Speaker 1: Two teas in a pod which Teddy Mellencamp and camera judge.

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Speaker 2: Hey, guys, we are here at Bravoconn in the Twat

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Speaker 2: suite with Dave Quinn.

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Speaker 3: This is the closest I've been to a twat in

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Speaker 3: a long time.

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Speaker 4: Well, how many twats have you been close to?

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Speaker 3: Only in high school? A couple? But yeah, So for

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Speaker 3: those of.

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Speaker 2: You who don't know Dave Quinn, he is an amazing guy,

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Speaker 2: the most amazing, one of my best friends.

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Speaker 4: And you wrote the book.

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Speaker 3: I wrote the book on the Housewives, not all Diamonds

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Speaker 3: and Rose.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you've been with People magazine for.

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Speaker 3: Years, eight years, nine years almost. Yeah, it's a long time.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so you know all the.

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Speaker 5: I know a lot of dirt, but not all the

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Speaker 5: dirt you were just talking. There's some dirt. I still

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Speaker 5: don't know what. I'm going to find out, and I'll

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Speaker 5: find out, Okay.

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Speaker 4: I need to know why Drew is not at BRAVA.

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Speaker 3: I know, I have no idea. I didn't even know

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Speaker 3: that she wasn't here of yesterday.

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Speaker 4: She was taking off the panels no longer coming.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 4: Oh, there's a lot going on in the Bravo universe, right,

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Speaker 4: now NBC Universe, like.

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Speaker 3: The whole thing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, especially with like Bethany and all that stuff.

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Speaker 5: And I'm so curious if that's going to come up.

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Speaker 5: But are people, you know, ask Andy is the first

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Speaker 5: panel of the day tomorrow, so I'm curious. It's like,

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Speaker 5: are they going to ask Andy about his relationship with

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Speaker 5: Bethany and Nimi? And yeah, said anything about it?

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Speaker 4: Well as you shouldn't, I know, Yeah, really.

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Speaker 3: I want to know.

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Speaker 4: Of course, of course you want to know. Now, a

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Speaker 4: lot of news broke right before Bravo Kan.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's absolutely it's crazy.

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Speaker 5: You know, there was this big article that came out

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Speaker 5: in Vanity Fair, lots of buzz about the fact that

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Speaker 5: it was on the way and it dropped on Monday,

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Speaker 5: and there's been some fallout from it already. Ramona, who

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Speaker 5: was supposed to be here for Bravo Kan to be

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Speaker 5: on The Real Housewives, Ultimate Girls Trip Roney Legacy, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: not here and taken off the whole roster. Have you

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Speaker 5: spoken to her at all?

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Speaker 2: I actually did her podcast about a week ago, okay,

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Speaker 2: and I you know, obviously her and Avery we talked

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Speaker 2: and everything. And now this the news broke, which is disappointing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think anyone's going to hear that podcast.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: I'm I was very disappointed when I heard the news

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Speaker 2: and disgusted.

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Speaker 3: It's really difficult. You know, you've known her for a

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Speaker 3: long time, for.

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Speaker 2: Many, many years, and I'm telling you she's always been

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Speaker 2: very kind to me. So it was very heartbreaking to

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Speaker 2: see the page six.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's the sort of thing where I think

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Speaker 5: there's this difference between impact and intention, and I don't

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Speaker 5: think her intention was that, but her impact certainly was

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Speaker 5: and very hurtful to say words like that and to

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Speaker 5: have them in your vocabulary. And this isn't new information.

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Speaker 5: I mean, the report and stuff that was in Vanity

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Speaker 5: Fair has been long reported. So I was surprised that

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Speaker 5: she stirred it all up again and put herself in

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Speaker 5: a situation of texting a reporter or something like that.

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Speaker 2: Well, I would imagine when Vanity Fair came out, she

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Speaker 2: was getting hit by every angle.

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Speaker 4: She thought that she was going to talk to the

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Speaker 4: reporter and.

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Speaker 1: What do you think the mystery Housewife is? Oh gosh,

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Speaker 1: if you are spect.

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Speaker 5: Idea, you know, I'm a reporter, So I truly believe

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Speaker 5: in sourcing and keeping sources off the record. I won't

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Speaker 5: even really question it, but I do think that that

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Speaker 5: Mystery housewife is currently employed employed.

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Speaker 4: Think that Mystery Housewives at BRABO con?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 6: Do you think she's on the East coast or the

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Speaker 6: West coast?

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Speaker 3: That's as far as I'll go.

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Speaker 1: What does it rhyme with? We've been going by rhymes

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Speaker 1: here on the twads.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I would say that she was likely speaking

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Speaker 5: in some form of antemy. Look, it's very difficult to

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Speaker 5: go on the record. Let's be honest.

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Speaker 3: The people who did, they're not going to work with

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Speaker 3: Bravo again, I would assume.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But why do you think that a housewife, a

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Speaker 2: current housewife would talk to Vanity Fair knowing what their intent?

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Speaker 5: Well, I feel as though they're probably a little burned

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Speaker 5: and they're probably a little frustrated. Listen, this is not

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Speaker 5: an easy experience. As you guys both.

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Speaker 3: Know, you're giving so much of yourself and someone is

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Speaker 3: in total control of the edit, and you get burned

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Speaker 3: very frequently.

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Speaker 1: But you can't do something that doesn't exist, Like you

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Speaker 1: can't be edited into a way that doesn't They can't exist.

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Speaker 6: That's what really bothers me, Like, I do think that

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Speaker 6: you can blame an edit only so far.

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Speaker 5: I agree, yes, but also the work environment needs to

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Speaker 5: be such that you feel safe and protected and you

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Speaker 5: feel like you can be Do you.

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Speaker 1: Think that there's a chance that people can be burned,

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Speaker 1: have a major issue, but then go on to do

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Speaker 1: multiple other shows with that same network, Yes, and be shocked.

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Speaker 3: Well, be shocked.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 3: I think that there's a little bit of delusion there.

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Speaker 5: There's a little bit of like a feeling like, well,

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Speaker 5: it's not going to happen again, but it always seems

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Speaker 5: to in some capacity. Listen, there's a two way street here, right,

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Speaker 5: you're giving and they're taking, but you're getting.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes exactly.

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Speaker 2: You can leave at any moment, and you you know

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Speaker 2: what you're getting into.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know, it's very complicated, it's very difficult,

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Speaker 3: and you know, I see both sides. And that's how

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Speaker 3: I've always been as a reporter.

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Speaker 5: Right has tried to be balanced, understanding that things are

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Speaker 5: happening from all angles. And I think this situation specifically

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Speaker 5: with Ramona, as somebody who knows her, I know she's

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Speaker 5: really upset by this. I know she's really hurt, but

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Speaker 5: her words are really upsetting.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so there has to.

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Speaker 5: Be consequences to those actions. And unfortunately, have you talked

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Speaker 5: to her? I haven't spoken to her. I've spoken to

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Speaker 5: a lot of people who have spoken to her, have

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Speaker 5: been very close to her.

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Speaker 3: I know she's really upset.

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Speaker 1: Can I ask the rules on being a an actual

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Speaker 1: journalist unlike us being an actual journalist and getting a

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Speaker 1: text message from some and then sharing that text message?

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Speaker 2: What is the push you've gone on that? Because me

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Speaker 2: and Teddy talked about this earlier. To actually get that

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Speaker 2: message or that tech message, but to actually publish.

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Speaker 4: It is a whole other level.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely.

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Speaker 4: Talk about it, but publish it.

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Speaker 3: It has a lot to do with what outlet you're at.

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Speaker 5: I don't work for an outlet and have never worked

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Speaker 5: for an outlet that would ever do something like that.

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Speaker 5: My attitude has always been we're off the record until

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Speaker 5: we're on. It's how I've built my relationships. Ultimately, there's

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Speaker 5: nothing that I will gain from hurting somebody by exposing

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Speaker 5: something that they told me in the.

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Speaker 4: Darks that nobody would talk to you again.

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Speaker 5: Right, But you know that for that outlet doesn't seem

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Speaker 5: to be a problem. They're not nervous about that sort

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Speaker 5: of thing, you know, right. But I've had talent.

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Speaker 3: Outside of Bravo and such who've said horrible things to me,

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Speaker 3: and I've never posted it. Horrible things in writing, horrible,

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Speaker 3: horrible things, angry about things that I've done or things

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Speaker 3: that I've said, or things that were or said about them.

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Speaker 2: Housewife has been the most angry with you and why.

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Speaker 5: There's been a few, but uh again, I'm going to

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Speaker 5: protect their identities because I'm not somebody who's going to

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Speaker 5: kind of expose them.

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Speaker 3: But there was one who called me and was real pissed.

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Speaker 6: I know who this one is.

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Speaker 1: She was laying on my bed on a magazine cover

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Speaker 1: when I arrived to Bravocon.

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Speaker 6: Thank you so much. We know you're getting to a concert.

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Speaker 6: What concert are you going to go to?

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Speaker 5: Drag Race Live? I want to go and with all

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Speaker 5: you queens. I wanted to go see some other queens.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I love it.

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Speaker 1: Any thoughts on what's happening with the magic mic of

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Speaker 1: it all for the scenes for next week, I mean

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Speaker 1: Beverly Hills.

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Speaker 3: I don't understand why's so upset.

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Speaker 4: I don't either.

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Speaker 3: Look like Erica was having fun. Listen.

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Speaker 5: If I could do what Erica was doing in that move,

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Speaker 5: I would go to magic.

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Speaker 2: My legs would go sideways like that in the air.

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Speaker 4: I would be doing that all the time.

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Speaker 1: If I could move my body from this awkward position

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Speaker 1: and my throwing right out my hair puts.

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Speaker 5: It's like when everyone gives Kyle's shit about the splits.

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Speaker 5: It's like if I could do splits, I'd be doing

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Speaker 5: them all Listen.

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Speaker 1: I would be sitting here in the splits the entire time,

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Speaker 1: looking I'd be mopping the floor.

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Speaker 6: Well, you can do that later, Tam, thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: I love you Dave so much.

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Speaker 3: Later