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<v Speaker 1>Via Around the NFL podcast. He's really popular in the Hague.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Dan Hansas, and I am joined by

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<v Speaker 1>a room filled with heroes, or well some heroes, Mark

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<v Speaker 1>Zessler and Chris Westling. What's up boys? Hey Dan Ah No,

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<v Speaker 1>Greg Rosenthal attending to some personal business today. Uh, he

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<v Speaker 1>will be back hopefully this weekend. We hope we must

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<v Speaker 1>soldier on and uh. This show, by the way, is

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time on Periscope, our first Thursday preview show.

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<v Speaker 1>So uh, if you want to um, well you're either

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<v Speaker 1>listening or watching or not right now. But we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>hope to hope to do this throughout the postseason. Get

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<v Speaker 1>the periscope um ship rolling along and away we go.

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<v Speaker 1>Perfect timing, right in time for Week seventeen. Here comes

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<v Speaker 1>the Thursday show on Periscope and that you paired ship

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<v Speaker 1>with periscope like down periscope or absolutely on purpose? Chris Westling,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the first Thursday Night show this season that

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<v Speaker 1>didn't start with a recap of Thursday Night football because

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<v Speaker 1>we have all sixteen teams playing on Sunday and Week

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen as uh, per tradition of the league. What are

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<v Speaker 1>you gonna do with your Thursday night? Off? West? A

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<v Speaker 1>little Casablanca on VHS, A little boxed wine. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>do boxed wine, it's too good for me. But Casablanca

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<v Speaker 1>always sounds like a great Thursday night. Yeah, I might

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<v Speaker 1>do that. Hubba hubba, Thank you, Gilda. I haven't watched

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<v Speaker 1>that in a while. That's a good old classic. How

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<v Speaker 1>old are yous? Forty two? But I appreciate well done things.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, You're a good man, West. Greg is

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<v Speaker 1>not with us. But one thing I will say, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna be honest. You know, sometimes it's important to

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<v Speaker 1>be honest as opposed to just oh, let me say

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<v Speaker 1>what people want me to say and then maybe they'll

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<v Speaker 1>like me. I'm just gonna be honest. Not having Greg here,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna miss him in the show. He has great insight.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a friend. But my cup of water, um, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>call him cleadas Uh has its own little spot. So

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm thirsty, reach over, don't have to worry about

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<v Speaker 1>Greg's elbows. Take a sip, put clead us right back down,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like let us there. Yeah, I mean, i'd say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the cutting. Perhaps the commentary suffers without Greg

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<v Speaker 1>on the show, but the cup and the cup holder

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<v Speaker 1>in the space to put the cup, maybe the usefulness

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<v Speaker 1>factor a little bit higher than Greg. Greg has some competition.

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<v Speaker 1>Greg getting banged in a big spot here. So, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a bunch of games to get to, very

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<v Speaker 1>exciting and not all of the games have ties to relevance,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll put it that way at this at this stage,

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<v Speaker 1>but we will talk about one huge hulge question facing

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<v Speaker 1>each or one of those teams involved in that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>essentially meaningless game. So even the games that don't matter, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna get a nice little preview. Sounds good, right,

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<v Speaker 1>That's how we do it. We spin forward because we're

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<v Speaker 1>asked to. Al Right, and let's start. Let's start with

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<v Speaker 1>a meaningful game, in fact, the one that everyone's excited for,

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<v Speaker 1>so excited that the league's suits made the decision that

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<v Speaker 1>this was going to be the game that gets flexed

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<v Speaker 1>to Sunday night in front of Al Chris, Michelle Tafoya

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<v Speaker 1>and the world. Yes, I'm talking about the Green Bay

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<v Speaker 1>Packers nine and six traveling to Ford Field to face

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<v Speaker 1>the nine and six Detroit Lions. Oh my goodness, what

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<v Speaker 1>a game? What else has to be said here? Mark Sessler.

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<v Speaker 1>The Packers on a five game winning streak that after

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<v Speaker 1>being left for dead at four and six, the lines

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<v Speaker 1>were nine and four. Now they're nine and six. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>your thoughts and North on the line. It is on

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<v Speaker 1>the line. And you know, if you've been listening to

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<v Speaker 1>both our preview shows and our review shows over the

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<v Speaker 1>last month plus, I think we saw this game on

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<v Speaker 1>the horizon as the game that would decide this division,

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<v Speaker 1>and almost uniformly, I would imagine have picked the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>much to this, I mean, Lions fans have a right

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<v Speaker 1>to be irritated slash agitated with with us as a

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<v Speaker 1>group because we have not believed in them much this season.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't believe in them in this game. I

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<v Speaker 1>think Green Bay is the team not only that Detroit

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't want to deal with this weekend, but really any

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<v Speaker 1>team in the NFC would not want to deal with

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<v Speaker 1>in January. They are white hot at the moment. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand how they can be slowed, whether it's in

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<v Speaker 1>lambeau Field or in this case, in Detroit. I appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>the nature of fandom, it's fanatical, but if you take

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<v Speaker 1>a closer look at this Lions team, they've been a

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<v Speaker 1>house of cards all year. They have built their record

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<v Speaker 1>on close wins against mediocre opponents, and they've been losing

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<v Speaker 1>in everyone but one of those games that they want.

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<v Speaker 1>And they also are facing now a Packers team that's

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<v Speaker 1>just flat out better than them and playing at a

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<v Speaker 1>much higher level. And Matthew Stafford in the last nine

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<v Speaker 1>games has won three yard performance and has one or

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<v Speaker 1>zero of touchdowns and seven of them. This is not

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<v Speaker 1>a dynamic, explosive offense that we were led to believe. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you know, I love that Couder. I love

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Bob Couder. He's had a nice run since taking over.

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<v Speaker 1>But sometimes a narrative swallows up the reality a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>And the Lions have been a little touch and go

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<v Speaker 1>on offense for a lot of the season. As you

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<v Speaker 1>just said, us and their defense, we actually did show

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<v Speaker 1>them quite a bit of respect that they were holding

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<v Speaker 1>opponents under twenty and then they go out and allow

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<v Speaker 1>the most points to Dallas Cowboys all year in a

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<v Speaker 1>game the Cowboys didn't even need and they have a

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<v Speaker 1>gimpy Darius Slay going into hosting green Bay, but against

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<v Speaker 1>two of the hottest receivers in the league and Jordie Nelson,

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<v Speaker 1>Vante Adams and definitely the hottest quarterback in the league.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Rogers fourteen touchdowns, zero picks over his last

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<v Speaker 1>six games. We've seen this from Aaron Rodgers before, and

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<v Speaker 1>it hasn't always translated to playoff success. They've been bounced,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, ridiculously from January year after. You get a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of that on dom capers. To be honest, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's not on Aaron Rodgers, but I mean when it

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<v Speaker 1>in the regular season, when he hits this kind of

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<v Speaker 1>fever pitch, he's utterly deadly. And I Green Bay is

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of team that if they were to go

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<v Speaker 1>in and put up thirty something points in this game,

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<v Speaker 1>how does Detroit keep up? Well, here's the thing. You

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<v Speaker 1>can point to some of the Packers struggles in January

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<v Speaker 1>in the recent years. Also, you could point to the

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<v Speaker 1>year they won the Super Bowl when they got hot

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<v Speaker 1>in December and just carried straight through. Is this that

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<v Speaker 1>type of year? And I want to be fair to

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<v Speaker 1>the lines because you still have the advantage and it's

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<v Speaker 1>a big advantage to me of being in your building

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<v Speaker 1>in prime time. I really think that on some level

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<v Speaker 1>levels of playing field, I think this. I think this

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<v Speaker 1>is the one score game. I feel confident about the

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<v Speaker 1>Packer whoa, I feel really comfortable. It's the biggest spot possible.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel so kind about the Packers. I'm gonna lock

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<v Speaker 1>it up, lock it up, lock it up, because, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they're just the better team. So I think it's a

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<v Speaker 1>close game in terms of, you know, seven to ten points.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think the Packers have taken this one. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what, one good luck deserves another. I'm locking it up.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, has that ever happened? I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 1>Was it allowed? Send it to the lockboard? Boord says

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<v Speaker 1>accounts this feels dangerously unoriginal. But I'm also locking it up.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got a triple bancker. We got a triple lock

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<v Speaker 1>the entire city of Detroit quakes with anger. Well, we

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<v Speaker 1>will never be allowed, probably even in the state of Michigan,

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<v Speaker 1>which is fine. This is gonna, this is gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>back to the Lions locker room. You're getting a little

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<v Speaker 1>too high on myself here as the group. Uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that. I'm not sure this is the

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<v Speaker 1>motivation they need and they'll never hear about this summer

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<v Speaker 1>trips to Macano Island and Arbor. It's like, hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>did you hear about those three average whites that picked

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<v Speaker 1>against us? Like, let's screw those guys, all right? So

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<v Speaker 1>we all got the Packers in this game, but it

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<v Speaker 1>will be a fun game to watch. And I really,

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<v Speaker 1>are you guys in agreement with me that this could

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<v Speaker 1>be a close game or do you think the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna roll? My sense is the Packers are gonna roll.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they can keep it close if Matthew Stafford

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<v Speaker 1>gets really hot and they have some weapons to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Golden Tate has been playing great the second half of

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<v Speaker 1>the season. I want to see where Marvin Jones is

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<v Speaker 1>because he averaged a hundred and thirty yards in the

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<v Speaker 1>first month and he's only top seven yards once. Since

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<v Speaker 1>it's not right physically for weeks now, I think it

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<v Speaker 1>matters to this organization that they have a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>even if if they lose that the Redskins relation can

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<v Speaker 1>still back into the wild card with the loss, but

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<v Speaker 1>they have not won the division in over twenty years.

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<v Speaker 1>This matters to the Lions, so I agree that it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a tight, fun game. That's been the

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<v Speaker 1>DNA for the Lions all year, no matter who they

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<v Speaker 1>as any. As a fan of a tortured franchise the Jets,

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<v Speaker 1>I root for teams that are also tortured, the Lions

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<v Speaker 1>being one of them. But I will say, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna talk about the Redskins in a second. I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like the winner go home angle of Sunday Night Football. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the winner go home win Oregon. Oh, I'm gonna say,

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<v Speaker 1>if you win, you're out, You're done. Uh So we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see how plays out. But rings us to our second game.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna talk about here, the New York Giants ten

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<v Speaker 1>and five. Now, Um, they speaking of backing into the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>They lost last week, but then clinched the spot when

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<v Speaker 1>some things broke their way on Christmas Eve. Uh and

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<v Speaker 1>they will now face the Washington Redskins in uh landover

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<v Speaker 1>the Redskins eight and six? And uh, I wish we

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<v Speaker 1>had the tabulator to my right. Um, it's uh, let's

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<v Speaker 1>let's throw it over to cletus. Cletus the cup. Does

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<v Speaker 1>he have let's tabulation machine? No? Okay, he's not saying anything,

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<v Speaker 1>but can someone tell me what what The Redskins need

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<v Speaker 1>to go to the playoffs. They need to beat the Giants,

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<v Speaker 1>and they need the Packers in lines game to not

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<v Speaker 1>end in a tie. There, you go so very possible.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's right in front of if, if all of

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<v Speaker 1>if we just triple locked the Packers uh to win

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<v Speaker 1>the Giant. The Redskins seem to be mark in a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good spot here because the Giants don't have a

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<v Speaker 1>ton to play for there. I don't know if they're

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<v Speaker 1>locked into a spot, but they are not fighting for

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<v Speaker 1>a playoffs. About themselves, yeah, we haven't heard definitive whispers

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<v Speaker 1>about who would sit or not sit for the and

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<v Speaker 1>I and I think that they probably will because if

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<v Speaker 1>you're the New York Giants locked into the five seed,

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<v Speaker 1>they're locked in. But I think you want to see

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<v Speaker 1>you got to work on aspects of your team, especially

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<v Speaker 1>on offense if you're New York, so you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to just give people an extra week off necessarily. I

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<v Speaker 1>think for me, it depends what Redskins team do we

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<v Speaker 1>get and what kind of Jordan Reed do we get.

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<v Speaker 1>He has been practicing this week, but their offense has

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<v Speaker 1>not been the same without him. A healthy Jordan Rey

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<v Speaker 1>would mean a lot for Kirk Cousins. That's the question

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<v Speaker 1>to me, that's been the lynch pin for them. Redskins

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<v Speaker 1>have to jump on the Giants early and make them quit,

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<v Speaker 1>make them realize that they have nothing to play for

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<v Speaker 1>in a game Dan that is not meaningless, but really

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter for the Giants playoff hopes. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>the Redskins jump out early and the Giants are the

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<v Speaker 1>Redskins is really that afraid of their offense anyway? No

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<v Speaker 1>should be. I mean, Eli, over the last five weeks

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<v Speaker 1>on throws fifteen yards or more has a twenty two

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<v Speaker 1>completion rate and seventeen point one passer rating. It's almost

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<v Speaker 1>incredible how bad that is. I love that you in

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<v Speaker 1>your m VP top ten ranking for who might win

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<v Speaker 1>m v P that you included Odell Beckon's name in there,

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<v Speaker 1>because he's been incredibly valuable. The amount of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>targets that are going in his direction are incredible over

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<v Speaker 1>the last couple of weeks. I have to I have

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<v Speaker 1>not read that yet, but I imagine there's a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of Eli manning digs within that blurb. Yes or no, us, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>there's pointing out the same thing I've been pointing out

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<v Speaker 1>for two months that he can't throw beyond fifteen. If

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<v Speaker 1>you found a way to to bang Eli in the

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<v Speaker 1>top ten m VP debate, I'm proud of you. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm considering that doting the only human being in the

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<v Speaker 1>national media who's willing to say a bad word about

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<v Speaker 1>a bad player that Eli Manning has been throwing the

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<v Speaker 1>ball at the feet of his wide receivers on passes

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<v Speaker 1>over fifteen yards for two and a half months, and

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<v Speaker 1>nobody will talk about. You will kiss his feed on

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<v Speaker 1>the first week of February when he's hoisting his third Lombardi. Baby,

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<v Speaker 1>is he gonna learn to throw left handed? Maybe? By

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<v Speaker 1>the way Dez Bryant through a little you know, take

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<v Speaker 1>a trip over the end around? Does Brian threw that

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<v Speaker 1>little touchdown pass? The only lefty touchdown past you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>see all season, because there's no lefty quarterbacks in the

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<v Speaker 1>league right now on any depth chart. The only the

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<v Speaker 1>only act, the only chance we have is killing the

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<v Speaker 1>Kellen Moore and Dallas I R everyone else. He's the

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<v Speaker 1>only one left. Huh. Whomer A Sciasen sheds a tear

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<v Speaker 1>for the state of left handed Michael Vick swept out

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<v Speaker 1>of jar Lorenzen banged in a big spot. Uh. One thing,

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm a giant before we move on, if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Ben McAdoo, which makes me a bit of a goober,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not even playing Odell Beckham because I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>him to uh drop like a macho man elbow drop

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<v Speaker 1>on Josh Norman in a fit of frustration to get

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<v Speaker 1>suspended next week. And if that does keep him out

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<v Speaker 1>of the if he's not in the lineup, I think

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<v Speaker 1>we know which way this game goes. Okay, let's move on.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh talk about the Houston Texans, who locked up the

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<v Speaker 1>a f C South with a win over the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>on Christmas Eve, uh night, and now they travel to

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<v Speaker 1>Tennessee to face the Titans. This almost had the makings

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<v Speaker 1>of an excellent Week seventeen showdown, but then, uh, the

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<v Speaker 1>Tennessee laid an egg last week and then Marcus Mariana

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<v Speaker 1>broke his leg on top of it, so that ended

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<v Speaker 1>basically their season. So why don't we Chris Westling ask

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<v Speaker 1>one huge question about one of these teams. Here's the

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<v Speaker 1>huge question. I have Marcus Mariota, now two years in

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<v Speaker 1>a row, ends the season on I R with a

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<v Speaker 1>leg injury. Do we consider him brittle? Is he a

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<v Speaker 1>durability concern? Do the Titans have to make it a

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<v Speaker 1>major priority to go out and get a veteran backup

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<v Speaker 1>who can actually move the offense better than Matt Castle

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<v Speaker 1>next season? That's a huge question. Okay, I like that

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<v Speaker 1>touch well. I think it's a little bit of both.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh And I know you may not like that answer

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<v Speaker 1>or it's not definitive enough, but I don't think that

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<v Speaker 1>we can call him brittle yet because we just talked

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<v Speaker 1>about a guy like Matthew Stafford, And when we first

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<v Speaker 1>started working here, Dan, it seemed like every year we

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<v Speaker 1>were writing about Matthew Stafford breaking this bone or that

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<v Speaker 1>bone or missing twelve games. He was like Ken, Matthew

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<v Speaker 1>Stafford gets through a season and you you look down

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<v Speaker 1>the road, and it wasn't really a legitimate concern. Do

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<v Speaker 1>they need to get a decent backup? Yes, because of

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<v Speaker 1>this exact situation that they find themselves in now. And

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<v Speaker 1>we killed the Cowboys a year ago for not having

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback depth, and when they addressed that position, look what

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<v Speaker 1>happened to the Dallas Cowboys. So I absolutely think it

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<v Speaker 1>has to be along with some weapons from Marcus Mariotta.

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<v Speaker 1>A primary need for the Titans to get another quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that first all you brought up Matthew Stafford.

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<v Speaker 1>I almost feel like Stafford's the exception to the rule,

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<v Speaker 1>the guy that was banged up constantly his first two

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<v Speaker 1>years and then became an iron man. Usually, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>a banged up guy, that's just part of your football DNA.

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<v Speaker 1>But I would say there's enough evidence where it should

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<v Speaker 1>be you should be one of those teams that has

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<v Speaker 1>a trustworthy backup where your season is not over if

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<v Speaker 1>this guy is gonna miss three weeks or six weeks

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<v Speaker 1>or eight weeks. Did somebody slap the China doll label

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<v Speaker 1>on Matthew Stafford you can remember that. I mean he

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<v Speaker 1>could not stay. I felt like he was dislocating his

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<v Speaker 1>shoulder every four weeks. Yeah, for a while. There uh

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<v Speaker 1>their current depth chart at quarterback Matt Castle. As me

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<v Speaker 1>know Alex Tanny sot Also, by the way I watched

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<v Speaker 1>last week's game, he is right now the Oakland Raiders

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<v Speaker 1>version of Matt Shop. He has to put his entire

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<v Speaker 1>body into every throw, even at tan yard out. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>not to the labor the point. But don't you think

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<v Speaker 1>that when you're a young quarterback coming in from college

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<v Speaker 1>that somebody Mark Smyrnder is not a monstrous physical specimen

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<v Speaker 1>that you need a couple of years to get your

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<v Speaker 1>body into NFL conditioning level at quarterback. And these guys

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<v Speaker 1>come in a lot of different kind of height, height,

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<v Speaker 1>weight frame scenarios. Um, all right, let's move on and

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the Carolina Panthers and Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Another

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<v Speaker 1>game where there is not anything riding on the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Couple of news notes. First of all, Steve Smith uh

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<v Speaker 1>strongly um uh considering this making this his final game.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he almost said those exact words, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>this is it right chance he's going to retire? Did

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<v Speaker 1>he say that? Really? Yes? Uh so, I don't know, Mark,

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<v Speaker 1>You don't exactly buy in, do you that he's definitely

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<v Speaker 1>heading out the door? Well from this, I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>still an incredibly valuable player. And you know, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of times you hear these players at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the year when there's physical toil, there's exhaustion where maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you're not ready to think about another season. He's toy

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<v Speaker 1>with this now. Last year he may have retired had

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<v Speaker 1>he not been injured, and that's what we discussed downstairs.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just feel like we've He's someone that could

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<v Speaker 1>be maybe pulled out of a potential retirement. If someone says, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>you're so valuable, we're gonna use You're gonna have another

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<v Speaker 1>successful year, I think I go back to baseball parallel

0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:56.480
<v Speaker 1>Marianna Rivera, who had even a better career than Steve Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>but both kind of Hall of Fame type guys. His

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<v Speaker 1>last season, he was shagging flyballs in center field during

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<v Speaker 1>batting practice, as was uh the tradition he had, and

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<v Speaker 1>he blew out his a c L crashing into a wall,

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<v Speaker 1>and then made the same decision, I'm not going out

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<v Speaker 1>on an injury. I'm gonna come back. He had another

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<v Speaker 1>All Star year and then went away. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that Steve Smith has been a Pro Bowl guy

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<v Speaker 1>this year, but he's been useful and he's making plays,

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<v Speaker 1>made plays last week, and this feels like a good

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<v Speaker 1>time to step away. Don't don't have the bad, depressing year.

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<v Speaker 1>You had the good year that kind of hinted towards

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<v Speaker 1>the pressing times to get out. Now this is it,

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<v Speaker 1>This is it. He's gonna go out at the perfect time.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna leave people wanting more because he was just

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<v Speaker 1>good enough and he conquered he He did not allow

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<v Speaker 1>the injury to take him out of the league. He

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<v Speaker 1>went out on his own terms. I think this is

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<v Speaker 1>the perfect way to stay. All I would say is

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<v Speaker 1>if if it is such a short thing, why are

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<v Speaker 1>you toying around with percentages like eight nine percent? Why

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<v Speaker 1>not just say it's what he does, it's his persona.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple of years ago, I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 1>remember this, he was injured and said he had a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to play. It's just Steve that this a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a bit, it's a not all the bits land

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<v Speaker 1>like he came out, how's our cup bit doing? H

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<v Speaker 1>it's languishing? Yeah, as cletus um. He had a bit

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<v Speaker 1>where he came out to a couple of press conferences

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<v Speaker 1>this year in an elf costume, and then some people

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<v Speaker 1>on the desk like, oh, Dan, you're gonna write about this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh no, it's not his best bit. I can't, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't. I'm not just gonna write about it because

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<v Speaker 1>the guy came out in enough costume Anyway, one other

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<v Speaker 1>bit of news, uh, involving these teams. Doug Martin, there

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<v Speaker 1>seemed to be something up when he was a healthy

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<v Speaker 1>scratch in week sixteen. We now know what was up,

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<v Speaker 1>Doug war and I just point out one thing. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Smith plays for the Ravens Now not the Panthers.

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<v Speaker 1>We can bring this back around though, because Ron Rivera.

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<v Speaker 1>Ron Rivera did hint at the idea that he wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have a problem with Steve Smith coming back and retiring

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<v Speaker 1>as a Panther. Do you want to ask your original

0:18:52.480 --> 0:18:55.200
<v Speaker 1>Dave Gettlman question. Yes, that is why, by the way,

0:18:55.240 --> 0:18:58.280
<v Speaker 1>I brought it up because I knew that nugget, but um,

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<v Speaker 1>a long time star of the Panthers are Smith identified?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? But eternally as a thank you for reminding

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<v Speaker 1>me West, Doug Martin has been suspended four games. He's

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<v Speaker 1>on the Bucks, right, that is correct? Good for now

0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:15.440
<v Speaker 1>suspended four games for violating the NFL's drug policy. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bucks running back announced the suspension and a statement.

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Licked the team GM all Liked also released a

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<v Speaker 1>statement supporting Martin. And it just just caps and we

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<v Speaker 1>hope the guy is able to get right um, physically,

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<v Speaker 1>mentally all that. Uh. But it capts such a disappointing

0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:40.000
<v Speaker 1>season for a guy that's having west a very strange career. Yeah,

0:19:40.040 --> 0:19:43.879
<v Speaker 1>he is very up and down. Uh. And you wonder

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<v Speaker 1>what this means for his future in Tampa Bay. His

0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:50.560
<v Speaker 1>contract is not guaranteed for this suspension actually removed the

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<v Speaker 1>guarantees from his contract. And this is a team that

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<v Speaker 1>really went with Doug Martin this year. When he played,

0:19:56.640 --> 0:19:59.320
<v Speaker 1>they were a winning team. When he set, they were overwhelmed.

0:19:59.600 --> 0:20:01.399
<v Speaker 1>So I it's a very important question they have to

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<v Speaker 1>face about the future. A year ago, at this time,

0:20:03.600 --> 0:20:08.600
<v Speaker 1>we were calling him half of the NFC's best backfield combination,

0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:11.240
<v Speaker 1>and he was. He was the best running back last year.

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<v Speaker 1>And you are right West. You've said this over and

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<v Speaker 1>over that running back is a year year proposition and

0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:19.159
<v Speaker 1>Doug Martin would be the face of that that theory.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's move on and talk about the Baltimore

0:20:22.920 --> 0:20:25.479
<v Speaker 1>Ravens and seeing what I did, I put Steve Smith's

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<v Speaker 1>name just a little higher. Um, you are rotation, You're

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<v Speaker 1>a surgeon, broadcast energy. Do you know what you need?

0:20:32.040 --> 0:20:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Mistake happened? What an assistant? That's what I need? You know,

0:20:36.040 --> 0:20:39.199
<v Speaker 1>personal assist. That makes sense that, I mean, we all

0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:43.120
<v Speaker 1>could use one, right He needed Danette needed Danette. So yeah,

0:20:43.119 --> 0:20:46.280
<v Speaker 1>the Ravens now traveled to Cincinnati, finished their season against

0:20:46.320 --> 0:20:50.000
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals, and in Baltimore they they lost in crushing

0:20:50.040 --> 0:20:53.200
<v Speaker 1>fashion in Week sixteen. Came so close to pushing this thing,

0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:56.679
<v Speaker 1>uh to weeks seventeen, but alas, it doesn't matter what

0:20:56.760 --> 0:20:59.520
<v Speaker 1>happens in week seventeen for either team. So Mark, why

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<v Speaker 1>don't you ask a ulig question? Well, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if this would qualify as huge, but I look at

0:21:06.320 --> 0:21:10.200
<v Speaker 1>the Baltimore Ravens as a team that has so much

0:21:10.240 --> 0:21:13.119
<v Speaker 1>to be hopeful about going into next season that the

0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:15.760
<v Speaker 1>way they look at they lost the Steelers question, it

0:21:15.880 --> 0:21:18.399
<v Speaker 1>is a question. I I just wonder. They've got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of talent all over the place, but we're heading

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<v Speaker 1>into draft season. If you're Ozzie Knewsome, what is the

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<v Speaker 1>number one position that you need to address to get

0:21:26.920 --> 0:21:28.920
<v Speaker 1>the Ravens over the hump in the a f C

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<v Speaker 1>North and back to the super Bowl? That question is huge.

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<v Speaker 1>It might be I'm not gonna you know, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna promise this. It's you know, sizeable. Well, Steve Smith's retiring,

0:21:38.160 --> 0:21:41.320
<v Speaker 1>you drafted Breshad Perriman if you have faith that he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be Steve Smith's successor fill those shoes. Then

0:21:44.240 --> 0:21:45.800
<v Speaker 1>you go to the other side of the ball and

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<v Speaker 1>you get in. You get a talented edge rusher because

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<v Speaker 1>Terrell Suggs and almost Doomer Real both in their mid thirties,

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<v Speaker 1>long in the tooth, and you want to be prepared

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<v Speaker 1>for when they do walk away. I would say you

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<v Speaker 1>need an edge rusher. It's good answer. Um, I think

0:21:58.920 --> 0:22:02.159
<v Speaker 1>they can use another play as Steve Smith, he's on

0:22:02.200 --> 0:22:04.720
<v Speaker 1>the Ravens correct that he that is correct for one

0:22:04.760 --> 0:22:07.000
<v Speaker 1>more game. Yes, he he's had a nice season, but

0:22:07.040 --> 0:22:09.760
<v Speaker 1>it's a little bit of a telling thing that he

0:22:09.960 --> 0:22:12.920
<v Speaker 1>is such an important part of the offense. And Dennis Pitta,

0:22:13.000 --> 0:22:14.960
<v Speaker 1>who's had a nice year. But you're asking a lot

0:22:15.040 --> 0:22:17.959
<v Speaker 1>for a guy that has, you know, plastic hips and

0:22:18.040 --> 0:22:20.240
<v Speaker 1>you've got nice things that Mike Wallace this year. But

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<v Speaker 1>how about and I know Bernard Perriman is supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be this guy supposed to having a tough one. Uh,

0:22:26.920 --> 0:22:29.320
<v Speaker 1>there's gotta be somebody else. I think we're missing a piece.

0:22:29.359 --> 0:22:32.199
<v Speaker 1>I feel like whether it's in the backfield or on

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<v Speaker 1>the outside. He's had a bad year. Okay, that's the

0:22:35.480 --> 0:22:37.359
<v Speaker 1>piece that's missing. So you don't think you don't have

0:22:37.359 --> 0:22:39.760
<v Speaker 1>any problems with their playmakers. You think it's a problem

0:22:39.800 --> 0:22:42.080
<v Speaker 1>with the quarterbacks. Shod Perriman has shown a lot. I

0:22:42.119 --> 0:22:45.320
<v Speaker 1>think the question with him is is he at the

0:22:45.400 --> 0:22:47.800
<v Speaker 1>right spot on the field where Joe Flacco can trust him?

0:22:48.000 --> 0:22:50.440
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's why Wallace and Smith were still

0:22:50.480 --> 0:22:53.200
<v Speaker 1>one and two and Paraman was behind camar Ak and

0:22:53.240 --> 0:22:56.480
<v Speaker 1>a special team. I mean, the one argument for dance point, though,

0:22:56.520 --> 0:22:59.080
<v Speaker 1>would be that you look at Pittsburgh and they continue

0:22:59.119 --> 0:23:02.480
<v Speaker 1>to add play making wide receivers and they've needed them. Actually,

0:23:02.880 --> 0:23:06.560
<v Speaker 1>they're multiple arguments for my not just one because it

0:23:06.640 --> 0:23:09.879
<v Speaker 1>was one. Yes, you know, I mean, are we going

0:23:09.920 --> 0:23:11.679
<v Speaker 1>crazy about what's going on in their backfield? I'm not

0:23:11.680 --> 0:23:14.719
<v Speaker 1>gonna go crazy. Could they use a changing running back? Potentially,

0:23:15.280 --> 0:23:17.760
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys got better when they got a big time running back.

0:23:17.840 --> 0:23:20.000
<v Speaker 1>They're all fair points. They could also use a play call.

0:23:20.040 --> 0:23:24.199
<v Speaker 1>Who's willing to use the backfield? Do you touch? Do

0:23:24.280 --> 0:23:28.360
<v Speaker 1>you think that this offense is broken? No? I don't.

0:23:28.560 --> 0:23:30.600
<v Speaker 1>We're making that kind of the quarterbacks. The problem, and

0:23:30.640 --> 0:23:32.800
<v Speaker 1>the the play callers a problems. I don't think just

0:23:32.840 --> 0:23:34.919
<v Speaker 1>because Joe Flacco had a bag year coming off at

0:23:34.960 --> 0:23:37.000
<v Speaker 1>a c L surgery, he's gonna have a bag year

0:23:37.040 --> 0:23:40.280
<v Speaker 1>again in two thousand seventeen. He's not a top ten quarterback.

0:23:40.359 --> 0:23:43.439
<v Speaker 1>He's he is a franchise quarterback. So I don't know.

0:23:43.480 --> 0:23:45.080
<v Speaker 1>To me, he's a lot like Eli Manning. You don't

0:23:45.080 --> 0:23:47.320
<v Speaker 1>know from year to year what you're gonna get. Um, okay,

0:23:47.400 --> 0:23:50.640
<v Speaker 1>let's move on to New England Patriots. Uh, they are

0:23:50.840 --> 0:23:54.920
<v Speaker 1>rolling usually pencilman for twelve winds. They might get fourteen

0:23:55.000 --> 0:23:57.720
<v Speaker 1>this year. They're thirteen and two right now, and they

0:23:57.800 --> 0:24:01.600
<v Speaker 1>now travel to Miami to as the Dolphins. And this

0:24:01.680 --> 0:24:05.239
<v Speaker 1>is a nice little matchup. You have the Pats who

0:24:05.280 --> 0:24:07.199
<v Speaker 1>are they do not want to make the mistake they

0:24:07.240 --> 0:24:08.840
<v Speaker 1>made last year might have cost him a trip to

0:24:08.880 --> 0:24:12.040
<v Speaker 1>the super Bowl by not finishing strong. And I know

0:24:12.160 --> 0:24:15.520
<v Speaker 1>that's been a major point of emphasis in in on

0:24:15.600 --> 0:24:19.199
<v Speaker 1>Patriot way. Uh all week has finished strong. Get that

0:24:19.320 --> 0:24:21.359
<v Speaker 1>number one seed because they're gonna be very hard to

0:24:21.400 --> 0:24:24.160
<v Speaker 1>beat in the playoffs with every home game, both those

0:24:24.200 --> 0:24:26.840
<v Speaker 1>a f C home games at Gillette Stadium. Uh, if

0:24:26.880 --> 0:24:28.760
<v Speaker 1>they make their way through the playoffs. And on the

0:24:28.800 --> 0:24:31.720
<v Speaker 1>other side, you have the Dolphins who continue to win

0:24:31.800 --> 0:24:35.000
<v Speaker 1>mark and they continue to surprise people. But maybe they

0:24:35.000 --> 0:24:37.399
<v Speaker 1>didn't they won last week, but maybe there were some

0:24:37.440 --> 0:24:40.400
<v Speaker 1>signs danger signs for a team that's going to the playoffs.

0:24:40.800 --> 0:24:43.520
<v Speaker 1>The danger signed for me. Would you know? It was

0:24:43.560 --> 0:24:45.680
<v Speaker 1>easy to come away from that game and talk about

0:24:45.720 --> 0:24:49.959
<v Speaker 1>what Jagi did to Buffalo's defense, but rewatching that tape,

0:24:50.320 --> 0:24:54.040
<v Speaker 1>Miami's defense was also just a wide open prairie land

0:24:54.080 --> 0:24:55.960
<v Speaker 1>to run and pass through. And and you're not gonna

0:24:55.960 --> 0:24:57.800
<v Speaker 1>get through the playoffs that way, and you're not going

0:24:57.880 --> 0:25:00.480
<v Speaker 1>to take down Tom Brady, who right now is three

0:25:00.480 --> 0:25:03.320
<v Speaker 1>touchdowns away, and if he doesn't throw a pick of

0:25:03.359 --> 0:25:07.240
<v Speaker 1>having the best touchdown to pick interception touchdown interception ratio

0:25:07.560 --> 0:25:12.200
<v Speaker 1>of any quarterback of our lifetime. Hashtag slow regression, non regression,

0:25:12.200 --> 0:25:14.800
<v Speaker 1>Where are we with that hashtag slight regression? I mean,

0:25:14.840 --> 0:25:17.360
<v Speaker 1>I think it's time to take that hashtag and throw

0:25:17.400 --> 0:25:22.800
<v Speaker 1>it in the sea. First of all, science is powerful thing.

0:25:22.840 --> 0:25:25.800
<v Speaker 1>Second of all, let's see how he does in the playoffs. Okay,

0:25:25.840 --> 0:25:28.040
<v Speaker 1>I watched I entered in this game when I watched

0:25:28.080 --> 0:25:30.800
<v Speaker 1>the thinking I'm gonna respect the Dolphins. They came in

0:25:30.840 --> 0:25:32.200
<v Speaker 1>and they won a big game when they had to,

0:25:32.320 --> 0:25:36.600
<v Speaker 1>and I walked away quite the opposite. Three other touchdowns

0:25:36.600 --> 0:25:39.240
<v Speaker 1>came from some of the most horrendous tackling attempts I've

0:25:39.240 --> 0:25:41.600
<v Speaker 1>ever seen by the Bills, and frankly, it should have

0:25:41.680 --> 0:25:45.560
<v Speaker 1>got Rex fired on DeVante Parker's touchdown. Damian Williams forty

0:25:45.600 --> 0:25:48.280
<v Speaker 1>four yard play that's set up a touchdown, and then

0:25:48.720 --> 0:25:51.399
<v Speaker 1>what was the other The other touchdown was just Kanyan

0:25:51.480 --> 0:25:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Drake going through their defense, just terrible. Matt Moore too,

0:25:55.040 --> 0:25:58.200
<v Speaker 1>going into halftime cost them two separate field goals by

0:25:58.280 --> 0:26:01.280
<v Speaker 1>under throwing his receivers on four different throws. This was

0:26:01.320 --> 0:26:03.640
<v Speaker 1>a problem. And I think the Patriots, in the other hand,

0:26:04.160 --> 0:26:06.320
<v Speaker 1>maybe the most balance they've gone to the postseason and

0:26:06.359 --> 0:26:09.240
<v Speaker 1>a half a decade. They that defense. We keep hearing

0:26:09.280 --> 0:26:11.560
<v Speaker 1>how the front seven has been revamped throughout the season,

0:26:11.920 --> 0:26:13.879
<v Speaker 1>all these names. Malcolm Butler's playing as well as he

0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:16.359
<v Speaker 1>ever has, defend, Devin mccordy's playing as well as he

0:26:16.400 --> 0:26:19.240
<v Speaker 1>ever has. This defense is balanced. Yeah, forgetting this. Every

0:26:19.320 --> 0:26:21.919
<v Speaker 1>week we get this new number one defense, which is

0:26:21.920 --> 0:26:24.520
<v Speaker 1>based off I think a staff that ultimately is going

0:26:24.560 --> 0:26:26.480
<v Speaker 1>to change here where we based it off of yardage,

0:26:26.680 --> 0:26:29.840
<v Speaker 1>it will never change, actually, but well, I would argue

0:26:29.840 --> 0:26:32.800
<v Speaker 1>that it should because New England's the number one scoring defense,

0:26:32.880 --> 0:26:36.000
<v Speaker 1>and that's that's not a mirage. You're not able to

0:26:36.040 --> 0:26:38.479
<v Speaker 1>put up points on the Patriots. So I don't think

0:26:38.560 --> 0:26:40.600
<v Speaker 1>New England is you know you want to be. They've

0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:43.480
<v Speaker 1>had troubles in Miamis. If any team has given Bill

0:26:43.520 --> 0:26:47.680
<v Speaker 1>Belichick issues historically, it's been the Dolphins, and I don't

0:26:47.680 --> 0:26:50.199
<v Speaker 1>see that happening this time. I agree with us that

0:26:50.520 --> 0:26:52.520
<v Speaker 1>they were fortunate to win that game, but I did

0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:56.879
<v Speaker 1>again find it to be a nice spirited performance from

0:26:56.880 --> 0:26:59.120
<v Speaker 1>the Dolphins that could they could have laid down at

0:26:59.119 --> 0:27:01.600
<v Speaker 1>several points the game could have been over. Absolutely, I

0:27:01.640 --> 0:27:03.960
<v Speaker 1>agree with down, and they fought through it, and I

0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:06.960
<v Speaker 1>think that shows again Adam Gates having a really nice debut.

0:27:07.040 --> 0:27:09.840
<v Speaker 1>C This is a different Miami team the past year.

0:27:09.880 --> 0:27:12.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the Dolphins have been sneaky, one of the

0:27:12.560 --> 0:27:16.080
<v Speaker 1>most depressing franchises for a while. So and we have

0:27:16.160 --> 0:27:18.919
<v Speaker 1>a couple of Dolphins fans scattered throughout our office, and

0:27:18.960 --> 0:27:21.879
<v Speaker 1>they are rightfully very enthused about what they're seeing. It's

0:27:21.920 --> 0:27:24.560
<v Speaker 1>a start. They're not there entirely yet. But there's a

0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:27.120
<v Speaker 1>lot of reasons to look at Adam Gates and say,

0:27:27.160 --> 0:27:29.320
<v Speaker 1>coach of the Year candidate, is he that coach of

0:27:29.320 --> 0:27:31.280
<v Speaker 1>the year. I don't think somebody's very He's up at

0:27:31.280 --> 0:27:33.879
<v Speaker 1>the top top five. I'm not questioning their coach, I'm

0:27:33.920 --> 0:27:38.840
<v Speaker 1>not questioning their metal, I'm not questioning their for testicular fortitude,

0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:41.480
<v Speaker 1>questioning whether they have the talent to beat the Patriots

0:27:41.760 --> 0:27:45.240
<v Speaker 1>because Matt Moore frankly doesn't have the arm. Yeah, let's

0:27:45.480 --> 0:27:48.240
<v Speaker 1>move on now. Talk about the Oakland Raiders twelve and

0:27:48.320 --> 0:27:52.000
<v Speaker 1>three traveling to Denver to face the Broncos. You would

0:27:52.000 --> 0:27:55.640
<v Speaker 1>have about, you know, a month ago, six weeks ago,

0:27:55.720 --> 0:27:57.880
<v Speaker 1>circled this one on the calendar. Is an amazing Week

0:27:57.960 --> 0:28:01.080
<v Speaker 1>seventeen game. But then Denver, uh, you know, they crapped

0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:04.040
<v Speaker 1>the bed. Let's be honest and not to gloat, but

0:28:04.160 --> 0:28:06.360
<v Speaker 1>we kind of picked Denver as an eight and eight

0:28:06.359 --> 0:28:10.800
<v Speaker 1>team this year. Got absolutely destroyed by hundreds upon hundreds

0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:12.920
<v Speaker 1>of Denver fans when they got out to that four

0:28:13.000 --> 0:28:15.840
<v Speaker 1>no start. But ultimately this team is exactly what if

0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:18.639
<v Speaker 1>you didn't if you had doubts about the Broncos entering

0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:21.160
<v Speaker 1>the season. It's it's the same things that came back

0:28:21.200 --> 0:28:23.280
<v Speaker 1>to get them. Maybe the defense is a little surprising,

0:28:23.600 --> 0:28:25.520
<v Speaker 1>but it's not that surprising that they would come down

0:28:25.520 --> 0:28:28.040
<v Speaker 1>to earth after such an amazing season. So this game

0:28:28.080 --> 0:28:30.920
<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean anything for Denver Um other than you get

0:28:30.920 --> 0:28:35.320
<v Speaker 1>a look at Paxton Lynch. But on the Oakland side,

0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:38.440
<v Speaker 1>Matt mcglen's the quarterback now and what West? What does

0:28:38.480 --> 0:28:41.920
<v Speaker 1>that mean? Does that mean the Raiders are done? Or

0:28:42.000 --> 0:28:43.280
<v Speaker 1>is there a way to look at this team and

0:28:43.320 --> 0:28:45.400
<v Speaker 1>still say this team has a path to the Super Bowl.

0:28:45.520 --> 0:28:48.200
<v Speaker 1>With Matt mcgleoyne behind center, I think it caps their ceiling.

0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:50.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't expect him to be able to

0:28:50.320 --> 0:28:52.880
<v Speaker 1>beat a Steelers Chiefs. I mean that they weren't beating

0:28:52.880 --> 0:28:55.640
<v Speaker 1>the Chiefs with Derek Carr already or the Patriots with

0:28:55.680 --> 0:28:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Matt mcgloyne. They can win in the first round. They

0:28:58.560 --> 0:29:01.240
<v Speaker 1>can win if they end up facing a Texans or

0:29:01.280 --> 0:29:04.480
<v Speaker 1>a Dolphins or something like that. But you know, Matt

0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:06.960
<v Speaker 1>McLoyd is a guy that they compared to a poor

0:29:07.000 --> 0:29:09.960
<v Speaker 1>man's Jeff Garcia when he was a rookie, undrafted and

0:29:10.040 --> 0:29:13.520
<v Speaker 1>was thrust into the lineup. When when Terrell prior was

0:29:13.600 --> 0:29:15.480
<v Speaker 1>not what they hoped he would be. So I think

0:29:15.480 --> 0:29:17.400
<v Speaker 1>there is some talent there and I think that we've

0:29:17.400 --> 0:29:19.920
<v Speaker 1>seen him preseason. He can make plays. Yeah, I mean they,

0:29:20.080 --> 0:29:23.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, the coaching staff has confidence and then they've

0:29:23.080 --> 0:29:25.600
<v Speaker 1>talked about you know, he's been around. He knows the

0:29:25.640 --> 0:29:27.640
<v Speaker 1>system when you don't. You don't have to contract the

0:29:27.640 --> 0:29:31.040
<v Speaker 1>playbook for him at all. But Derek Carr is an

0:29:31.120 --> 0:29:35.760
<v Speaker 1>m VP candidate for good reason because he has an

0:29:35.800 --> 0:29:38.000
<v Speaker 1>incredible I think. I mean, he can make any type

0:29:38.000 --> 0:29:40.960
<v Speaker 1>of throw and that's a defense that has let up points.

0:29:40.960 --> 0:29:44.120
<v Speaker 1>He's had to outscore you know, teams and shootouts and

0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:46.640
<v Speaker 1>he's done it week after week. I think it's I

0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:49.400
<v Speaker 1>wonder where the team is emotionally. I really do, because

0:29:49.440 --> 0:29:52.160
<v Speaker 1>I think there was such a crushing type of loss

0:29:52.200 --> 0:29:54.840
<v Speaker 1>to go a car. But I don't think Matt McLoyd.

0:29:54.880 --> 0:29:57.040
<v Speaker 1>You're not putting Matt Castle in there, for instance, Well,

0:29:57.040 --> 0:29:59.000
<v Speaker 1>so we'll find out they can if they can run

0:29:59.000 --> 0:30:00.640
<v Speaker 1>the ball, they could be It could be just as

0:30:00.640 --> 0:30:03.480
<v Speaker 1>bad as Matt Castle. Well we've seen yeah, I mean

0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:04.960
<v Speaker 1>he has to could throw the ball to the other

0:30:05.120 --> 0:30:06.760
<v Speaker 1>the other team, he could be a nightmare as well,

0:30:06.760 --> 0:30:08.280
<v Speaker 1>we don't know we're gonna get from this. We don't

0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:10.000
<v Speaker 1>have a huge sample size, but I think Matt mcgloyan

0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:12.560
<v Speaker 1>is not it's not a it's not as desperate as

0:30:12.680 --> 0:30:14.600
<v Speaker 1>as as it could be with some of the backups

0:30:14.640 --> 0:30:16.920
<v Speaker 1>around the league. And this is a team that's still

0:30:16.960 --> 0:30:18.520
<v Speaker 1>they can run the football. I think they're gonna be

0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:21.080
<v Speaker 1>able to do that against Denver. That there. Denver's run

0:30:21.120 --> 0:30:23.920
<v Speaker 1>defense of late has not been that not that been

0:30:23.960 --> 0:30:25.880
<v Speaker 1>the defense, don't you're used to. I don't think people

0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:28.480
<v Speaker 1>understand how bad the Broncos runding their ranked twenty nine

0:30:28.520 --> 0:30:31.760
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL and runne Yeah. Uh. Here's if you're

0:30:31.760 --> 0:30:33.720
<v Speaker 1>a Raiders fan and you're bummed out and you and

0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:37.000
<v Speaker 1>you deserve to be after what happened on Christmas Eve.

0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:41.120
<v Speaker 1>What a crappy gift that was from Santa But in

0:30:41.200 --> 0:30:45.000
<v Speaker 1>fact we have the poor Derek Carr, who, if you

0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:48.040
<v Speaker 1>check out um NFL Films, had him wired for sound

0:30:48.080 --> 0:30:50.200
<v Speaker 1>in that game and we have it up on our site.

0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:52.000
<v Speaker 1>I did. I wrote an end around post about it.

0:30:52.280 --> 0:30:55.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you have you get such a good picture

0:30:55.800 --> 0:30:59.320
<v Speaker 1>of why this guy is a successful quarterback in terms

0:30:59.320 --> 0:31:02.200
<v Speaker 1>of leadership, why he likes his team is and his

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:04.800
<v Speaker 1>his teammates like him, the type of competitive was and

0:31:04.840 --> 0:31:07.479
<v Speaker 1>then just just a crushing moment when he gets that

0:31:07.840 --> 0:31:10.760
<v Speaker 1>angle like caught him under him and he suffers the

0:31:10.760 --> 0:31:13.600
<v Speaker 1>the broken fibula and that we have the sound from

0:31:13.640 --> 0:31:16.280
<v Speaker 1>the exact moment it happened, which is just a wild scene.

0:31:17.000 --> 0:31:20.600
<v Speaker 1>It's broke, it's broke, it's broke, it's broke, it's broke,

0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:23.480
<v Speaker 1>it's broke. I mean, he's yells at six times in

0:31:23.480 --> 0:31:25.600
<v Speaker 1>a row. It's so it's a sad, sad scene. And

0:31:25.640 --> 0:31:27.920
<v Speaker 1>I was if you're a Raiders fan and you want

0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:30.920
<v Speaker 1>to talk yourself into this team making a playoff run,

0:31:31.480 --> 0:31:33.640
<v Speaker 1>it is this kind of that nobody believes this angle.

0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:36.080
<v Speaker 1>And if Matt McLean can play a little bit and

0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:38.360
<v Speaker 1>you have a solid team in Khalil Mack and and

0:31:38.400 --> 0:31:41.320
<v Speaker 1>company can raise their game to another level. Maybe this

0:31:41.360 --> 0:31:43.840
<v Speaker 1>becomes some type of rallying cry, but it really it

0:31:43.920 --> 0:31:46.320
<v Speaker 1>does to me. Also put a cap on, put a

0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:48.800
<v Speaker 1>ceiling on what is a really frisky team. It's one

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:53.000
<v Speaker 1>team that if you were able to retain the by

0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:55.840
<v Speaker 1>that when you have a backup quarterback having to prepare

0:31:56.160 --> 0:31:58.280
<v Speaker 1>that extra week of practice that an extra week of

0:31:58.360 --> 0:32:02.200
<v Speaker 1>preparation could mean a lot. Uh. Let us move on

0:32:03.000 --> 0:32:06.200
<v Speaker 1>the Kansas City Chiefs, um, I have a lot to

0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:09.920
<v Speaker 1>play for. Uh. They travel to San Diego to face

0:32:10.200 --> 0:32:13.960
<v Speaker 1>the Chargers. Mark Sessler and the Chiefs are the team

0:32:14.040 --> 0:32:17.200
<v Speaker 1>that they seem to be Slowly, It's been a two

0:32:17.280 --> 0:32:19.960
<v Speaker 1>year process earning the respect of a lot of people,

0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:22.920
<v Speaker 1>including at least me. I can only speak for myself,

0:32:23.440 --> 0:32:26.840
<v Speaker 1>but they are in a good position here uh to

0:32:26.840 --> 0:32:29.200
<v Speaker 1>to set themselves up well here. Yeah, you can speak

0:32:29.240 --> 0:32:30.840
<v Speaker 1>for me too. I agree. I think I've had a

0:32:31.040 --> 0:32:34.200
<v Speaker 1>I've I've been reluctant to sign up for the Chiefs

0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:37.320
<v Speaker 1>mainly because of their offense. I mean, it's never their defense,

0:32:37.360 --> 0:32:40.440
<v Speaker 1>it's not their coaching, and they're very well coached team,

0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:43.040
<v Speaker 1>but it's their ceiling that always concern me with how

0:32:43.080 --> 0:32:45.120
<v Speaker 1>far do you expect this Chief's team to go with

0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:47.800
<v Speaker 1>the offense they have? But now, and I think that

0:32:47.800 --> 0:32:51.640
<v Speaker 1>that Christmas Night game was such a thunderous effort where

0:32:51.920 --> 0:32:54.720
<v Speaker 1>you see Travis Kelsey operating as one of the best

0:32:54.720 --> 0:32:58.080
<v Speaker 1>tight ends in the league and Tyreek Hill doing things

0:32:58.160 --> 0:33:00.320
<v Speaker 1>in so many different ways. It's the player have not

0:33:00.480 --> 0:33:02.800
<v Speaker 1>had and you look at Alex Smith and since two

0:33:02.800 --> 0:33:06.000
<v Speaker 1>thousand eleven, only Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers have more

0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:09.280
<v Speaker 1>wins than Alex Smith. And I think we all know

0:33:09.720 --> 0:33:13.240
<v Speaker 1>what Alex Smith is. But in this formula and this

0:33:13.360 --> 0:33:16.360
<v Speaker 1>current Chiefs world that they're in, I would not be

0:33:16.520 --> 0:33:18.840
<v Speaker 1>surprised a that they win a playoff game and they

0:33:18.840 --> 0:33:20.560
<v Speaker 1>can make it tight with anyone in the a f

0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:23.600
<v Speaker 1>C Championship. I think it's fair to question their ceiling.

0:33:23.720 --> 0:33:26.520
<v Speaker 1>We have over the past month or two, as you said,

0:33:26.560 --> 0:33:29.200
<v Speaker 1>gradually given them more and more respect. Pointed out Tyreek

0:33:29.240 --> 0:33:31.960
<v Speaker 1>Hill and Travis Kelsey. Do give them the playmakers we've

0:33:31.960 --> 0:33:34.760
<v Speaker 1>been asking for on offense, that their defense has chalked

0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:37.840
<v Speaker 1>full of playmakers, but their ceiling. They got wiped out

0:33:37.880 --> 0:33:40.640
<v Speaker 1>by the Steelers earlier this year, they lost to the

0:33:40.680 --> 0:33:43.160
<v Speaker 1>Patriots in the playoffs last year. Those are the two

0:33:43.160 --> 0:33:45.400
<v Speaker 1>teams that you want to see them beat. Yeah, there,

0:33:45.520 --> 0:33:47.800
<v Speaker 1>they should have no problem with a Chargers team that

0:33:47.920 --> 0:33:50.560
<v Speaker 1>just lost to Cleveland. I mean they lost that. That

0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:53.080
<v Speaker 1>New England loss was too about a touchdown. I think

0:33:53.160 --> 0:33:56.080
<v Speaker 1>last last playoffs there's two different teams. That's a long

0:33:56.120 --> 0:33:59.040
<v Speaker 1>time ago. But I I if you ever gave Kansas

0:33:59.080 --> 0:34:00.840
<v Speaker 1>City home field of image, which they're not going to

0:34:00.880 --> 0:34:03.760
<v Speaker 1>get obviously. I think it's an incredibly tough place to play.

0:34:03.760 --> 0:34:05.960
<v Speaker 1>So I think they win a playoff game and then

0:34:06.000 --> 0:34:09.000
<v Speaker 1>you see from there, strange stuff can happen between now

0:34:09.040 --> 0:34:14.240
<v Speaker 1>and then. Yeah, I agree, I think they they're ceiling

0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:17.440
<v Speaker 1>their ceiling. I think they have a higher ceiling. I

0:34:17.480 --> 0:34:19.680
<v Speaker 1>think they could. I'm starting to talk to myself and

0:34:19.719 --> 0:34:21.719
<v Speaker 1>that they could beat the Patriots, are you They have

0:34:21.840 --> 0:34:24.080
<v Speaker 1>that type of the skill on both sides of the ball,

0:34:24.120 --> 0:34:26.680
<v Speaker 1>and the fact that the offense, like we said, has

0:34:26.719 --> 0:34:29.440
<v Speaker 1>these talented playmakers of it kind of throws It's a

0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:31.719
<v Speaker 1>wild guard when you're talking about the Chiefs. Like my

0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:34.080
<v Speaker 1>question for you though, because you were all in on

0:34:34.120 --> 0:34:37.960
<v Speaker 1>the Raiders, is it almost Chiefs by proxy because you're

0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:40.440
<v Speaker 1>trying to fill another team in there in place of

0:34:40.480 --> 0:34:43.120
<v Speaker 1>the Raiders a little But then that would be once

0:34:43.160 --> 0:34:45.800
<v Speaker 1>again falling into the trap of not respecting the Chiefs,

0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:48.680
<v Speaker 1>and I'm trying to give them the respects fact they believe.

0:34:48.880 --> 0:34:50.759
<v Speaker 1>I believe in the Steelers a little bit. I think

0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:53.640
<v Speaker 1>maybe Dave c playoffs you'd be a little more exciting

0:34:53.719 --> 0:34:56.080
<v Speaker 1>a little This is you're just auditioning teams to beat

0:34:56.120 --> 0:34:59.680
<v Speaker 1>the Patriots base. And I'm not alone. There's tens of

0:34:59.840 --> 0:35:02.040
<v Speaker 1>your the football fans that feel the same way. I

0:35:02.120 --> 0:35:03.759
<v Speaker 1>just happened to be in the minority in this room.

0:35:03.840 --> 0:35:06.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm waiting for you, like right before the a f

0:35:06.560 --> 0:35:09.600
<v Speaker 1>C Championship game, when you decide that Alex Smith is

0:35:09.600 --> 0:35:11.720
<v Speaker 1>the quarterback you want in a shootout with Tom Brady,

0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:15.320
<v Speaker 1>I'll talk to myself into Uh. One more note about

0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:19.200
<v Speaker 1>this game. Melvin Gordon, who has a hip and a

0:35:19.280 --> 0:35:22.400
<v Speaker 1>hip Sprain and an East Brandon, has no business playing

0:35:22.400 --> 0:35:25.439
<v Speaker 1>in a game that means nothing. Uh and yet and

0:35:25.480 --> 0:35:28.480
<v Speaker 1>as if he's plugged into the the drama behind the

0:35:28.520 --> 0:35:32.680
<v Speaker 1>scenes and of the Around the NFL podcast, he really

0:35:32.719 --> 0:35:35.200
<v Speaker 1>wants to get those last three yards to get to

0:35:35.239 --> 0:35:38.840
<v Speaker 1>one thousand. For whatever reason, averaging exactly sixty yards a

0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:43.440
<v Speaker 1>game means a lot to Melvin Gordon over a sixteen game, uh. Spread.

0:35:43.920 --> 0:35:47.120
<v Speaker 1>So he's practiced the last two days, and we know

0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:49.879
<v Speaker 1>Chris Westling if he reaches one thousand yards. We made

0:35:49.880 --> 0:35:52.600
<v Speaker 1>a promise. I don't know if we said we definitely would,

0:35:52.600 --> 0:35:56.360
<v Speaker 1>but to at least open up the discussion that spice

0:35:56.480 --> 0:36:00.880
<v Speaker 1>rack your desert Consigliari, who gave an unhinge performance and

0:36:01.000 --> 0:36:06.239
<v Speaker 1>his previous all of his spots on the show. But

0:36:06.360 --> 0:36:08.319
<v Speaker 1>we said, if Melvin Gordon rushed for a thousand yards

0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:11.200
<v Speaker 1>or scores twenty touchdowns, he could come back on the show.

0:36:11.680 --> 0:36:13.560
<v Speaker 1>And it's coming right down to the gun. I think

0:36:13.640 --> 0:36:16.279
<v Speaker 1>he could be a game time decision. Well, spice Rack

0:36:16.560 --> 0:36:19.239
<v Speaker 1>is connected. Oh my god, I didn't think of it.

0:36:19.360 --> 0:36:21.919
<v Speaker 1>He has tentacles, he has the long arm of spice Rack.

0:36:22.040 --> 0:36:24.239
<v Speaker 1>You know, he's he can be a convincing guy. He's

0:36:24.320 --> 0:36:26.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of plugged in. Who knows if he's had connections

0:36:26.680 --> 0:36:29.440
<v Speaker 1>to Melvin Gordon. Just get him, like, all right, Melvin,

0:36:29.480 --> 0:36:31.680
<v Speaker 1>you gotta play, you gotta reach a thousand yards. It's

0:36:31.840 --> 0:36:34.719
<v Speaker 1>very possible desert connections. I wouldn't go that far. I'm

0:36:34.719 --> 0:36:37.279
<v Speaker 1>just saying spice Rack does know some people around the league.

0:36:37.320 --> 0:36:40.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Dan, if we've already uh, this podcast has

0:36:40.280 --> 0:36:44.239
<v Speaker 1>already served as motivation for the Detroit Lions organization. Undoubtedly

0:36:44.280 --> 0:36:46.879
<v Speaker 1>they're listening to this that's in and you know we're

0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:49.799
<v Speaker 1>prodding them negatively. Would this be I mean, do you

0:36:49.840 --> 0:36:52.279
<v Speaker 1>doubt that Melvin Gordon is completely plugged in on the

0:36:52.320 --> 0:36:56.479
<v Speaker 1>fact that him rushing for three yards would get spice Rack. Uh,

0:36:56.520 --> 0:37:00.560
<v Speaker 1>as you mentioned a totally unhinged broadcast type back on

0:37:00.600 --> 0:37:03.719
<v Speaker 1>the show. Wouldn't this be on our first show? Be?

0:37:03.880 --> 0:37:06.200
<v Speaker 1>The ultimate honor would be to find out that he

0:37:06.239 --> 0:37:08.480
<v Speaker 1>wasn't pushing to get back on the field for one

0:37:08.520 --> 0:37:11.680
<v Speaker 1>thousand yards it was because he really liked spice Rack

0:37:11.719 --> 0:37:13.480
<v Speaker 1>on our podcast would be and it would be a

0:37:13.560 --> 0:37:18.319
<v Speaker 1>bizarre honor, but I would yeah, it would We would accept. Then, Hey, Mark,

0:37:18.400 --> 0:37:22.440
<v Speaker 1>you like money? Yes, I do you want some more? Please?

0:37:23.200 --> 0:37:25.520
<v Speaker 1>Well sign up for Mr Flames economics class and the

0:37:25.560 --> 0:37:30.880
<v Speaker 1>Hague the Netherlands for all your economics needs throughout the globe,

0:37:31.239 --> 0:37:35.840
<v Speaker 1>and that includes the Hague the Netherlands, where his class

0:37:35.880 --> 0:37:39.239
<v Speaker 1>is based. It it just dawned on me that I

0:37:39.239 --> 0:37:42.000
<v Speaker 1>should have signed up for Mr Flames class. I could

0:37:42.080 --> 0:37:44.319
<v Speaker 1>use a lot of help in this area. So if

0:37:44.320 --> 0:37:46.600
<v Speaker 1>you need help, you go to Mr f and it'll

0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:49.160
<v Speaker 1>give you help. Well, I mean, we are we are

0:37:49.160 --> 0:37:52.120
<v Speaker 1>ignoring the fact that it would cost thousands of dollars

0:37:52.160 --> 0:37:55.120
<v Speaker 1>to fly from here to the Hague to sign up

0:37:55.120 --> 0:37:57.560
<v Speaker 1>for a high school class. The Hague the Netherlands. Yes,

0:37:57.640 --> 0:38:00.200
<v Speaker 1>the Hague the Netherlands thousands of dollars to get there,

0:38:00.200 --> 0:38:01.960
<v Speaker 1>and then we would have been allowed to sign up

0:38:01.960 --> 0:38:03.560
<v Speaker 1>for a high school class. Well, I mean, do you

0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:06.000
<v Speaker 1>even have a visa? Do you have any sort of passport?

0:38:06.040 --> 0:38:07.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's It's not as simple as we make it.

0:38:08.200 --> 0:38:12.879
<v Speaker 1>Any flying restrictions was not that I believe. Okay, www

0:38:12.960 --> 0:38:28.200
<v Speaker 1>Dot flame class dot com. Alright, Chris Westling the Dallas Cowboys.

0:38:29.200 --> 0:38:31.520
<v Speaker 1>What a season it's been in Big d Uh. And

0:38:31.600 --> 0:38:33.600
<v Speaker 1>they have everything locked up, but as we just saw

0:38:33.640 --> 0:38:36.080
<v Speaker 1>on Monday night, they don't care if everything is locked up.

0:38:36.080 --> 0:38:38.200
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna whip your ass anyway if they don't like you.

0:38:38.480 --> 0:38:40.840
<v Speaker 1>And now they get the Philadelphia Eagles, an old rival.

0:38:41.280 --> 0:38:43.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know who to believe when it comes to

0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:45.800
<v Speaker 1>how the Dallas Cowboys are approaching this game. Jerry Jones

0:38:46.360 --> 0:38:49.399
<v Speaker 1>is talking about Ezekiel is going to play and play

0:38:49.440 --> 0:38:53.160
<v Speaker 1>a lot, and if he's approaching Eric Dickerson's rookie rookie

0:38:53.239 --> 0:38:56.760
<v Speaker 1>rushing record, we might just let him get it. And meanwhile,

0:38:56.840 --> 0:38:59.799
<v Speaker 1>Jason Garrett has Mark Sanchez and Darry McFadden taking most

0:38:59.840 --> 0:39:02.440
<v Speaker 1>of the first team reps and practice leading up to

0:39:02.480 --> 0:39:06.000
<v Speaker 1>this game. I think we're gonna see about one quarter

0:39:06.080 --> 0:39:08.279
<v Speaker 1>of the Cowboys starters and then we're gonna turn it

0:39:08.320 --> 0:39:12.160
<v Speaker 1>over to the backups, and Mark Sanchez, not Tony Romo,

0:39:12.640 --> 0:39:14.880
<v Speaker 1>will be the court. I I don't have a problem

0:39:14.920 --> 0:39:17.520
<v Speaker 1>with that decision. The problem what does it mean that?

0:39:17.560 --> 0:39:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Does that just mean they don't want any controversy? Whatso?

0:39:20.160 --> 0:39:22.880
<v Speaker 1>I exactly what it means? You are you have a

0:39:23.000 --> 0:39:24.960
<v Speaker 1>chance to be the first It's getting a little ridiculous

0:39:24.960 --> 0:39:27.080
<v Speaker 1>at Fels. That's a little ridiculous. I I kind of

0:39:27.120 --> 0:39:30.239
<v Speaker 1>disagree because it's the first time in franchise history that

0:39:30.280 --> 0:39:33.399
<v Speaker 1>you can cap fourteen win regular season and some great

0:39:33.400 --> 0:39:37.480
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys teams. Why mess with anything as long as I

0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:40.160
<v Speaker 1>think behind the scenes, if this isn't causing major issues

0:39:40.200 --> 0:39:42.520
<v Speaker 1>with Tony Romo, that you put them in and all

0:39:42.560 --> 0:39:46.359
<v Speaker 1>you're doing is asking finally, these pregame shows, finally some

0:39:46.440 --> 0:39:49.720
<v Speaker 1>of these you know, loudmouths have quieted down about should

0:39:49.840 --> 0:39:52.120
<v Speaker 1>Tony be in or not be in? And why do

0:39:52.200 --> 0:39:54.319
<v Speaker 1>we want to reopen that we don't have to be

0:39:54.360 --> 0:39:57.239
<v Speaker 1>so plugged into what Skip Bayliss is saying. And if

0:39:57.239 --> 0:39:59.160
<v Speaker 1>you really want to go fourteen in two, you don't

0:39:59.160 --> 0:40:02.120
<v Speaker 1>put in the worst back, which is Mark Sanchez, Tony Romo,

0:40:02.280 --> 0:40:04.680
<v Speaker 1>if you really, if if we weren't playing this so

0:40:05.000 --> 0:40:08.680
<v Speaker 1>absurdly safe, you would be saying to yourself, well, Dak

0:40:08.719 --> 0:40:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Prescott obviously the starter, He's had an all pro season,

0:40:12.080 --> 0:40:15.200
<v Speaker 1>Pro Bowl season, but Tony Romo has not taken a

0:40:15.200 --> 0:40:17.600
<v Speaker 1>single snap all season. In case that gets it's getting ready,

0:40:17.680 --> 0:40:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Let's get Tony in there, get knockoffs, some rust in

0:40:19.640 --> 0:40:21.440
<v Speaker 1>this game. That doesn't mean it. If this wasn't just

0:40:21.600 --> 0:40:23.680
<v Speaker 1>a such a force, Tony would be playing. Let me

0:40:23.680 --> 0:40:26.200
<v Speaker 1>come out, let me come at you from another angle

0:40:26.360 --> 0:40:31.120
<v Speaker 1>that maybe it looks a little bit disrespectful to have

0:40:31.280 --> 0:40:35.320
<v Speaker 1>Tony Romo mopping up in a meaningless week seventeen games.

0:40:35.320 --> 0:40:37.240
<v Speaker 1>I can buy that. Maybe keep him out of the fray.

0:40:37.280 --> 0:40:39.839
<v Speaker 1>Now you have him come in a playoff game, that's

0:40:39.880 --> 0:40:41.680
<v Speaker 1>a whole different thing. He can save the day. I

0:40:41.840 --> 0:40:47.160
<v Speaker 1>it's a little bit strange to have this quarterback in

0:40:47.200 --> 0:40:50.440
<v Speaker 1>there mopping up in Week seventeen. This and your Matthew

0:40:50.480 --> 0:40:53.239
<v Speaker 1>Stafford example, for Marcus Mariotta, you were on fire. I

0:40:53.280 --> 0:40:56.040
<v Speaker 1>agree with you, and I think that is that use myself.

0:40:56.040 --> 0:40:59.320
<v Speaker 1>So you guys, can you know, keep yourself sloppy kisses

0:40:59.360 --> 0:41:01.120
<v Speaker 1>you've got a friend over there and he's made out

0:41:01.120 --> 0:41:04.239
<v Speaker 1>of paper. Now, I mean you you're playing both sides

0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:06.160
<v Speaker 1>of the fence. You were not. I hadn't. I hadn't

0:41:06.200 --> 0:41:08.839
<v Speaker 1>thought of that angle. I think Market makes an interesting point.

0:41:09.200 --> 0:41:12.160
<v Speaker 1>I will except will fire. I will accept the compliment

0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:17.919
<v Speaker 1>from both of you. Are it just felt a little

0:41:17.920 --> 0:41:20.560
<v Speaker 1>over the top. I compliments some Mark there. I don't

0:41:20.560 --> 0:41:22.719
<v Speaker 1>give up thoughts often. Maybe I should give him out

0:41:22.719 --> 0:41:24.960
<v Speaker 1>more often, so you wouldn't celebrate that when I do. Yeah,

0:41:25.200 --> 0:41:27.160
<v Speaker 1>I just you know, I thought of the point, but

0:41:27.200 --> 0:41:31.040
<v Speaker 1>once again, not not the right point. Well, I perfectly

0:41:31.280 --> 0:41:33.560
<v Speaker 1>around the horn. You're not handing out points for points.

0:41:33.560 --> 0:41:37.520
<v Speaker 1>It's a perfectly tasteful comment by Wes. So I'll take it.

0:41:37.719 --> 0:41:39.719
<v Speaker 1>You get the backup in there. You're not going for us.

0:41:40.520 --> 0:41:43.080
<v Speaker 1>But whatever Mark Sanchez is gonna play good for Mark

0:41:43.160 --> 0:41:47.160
<v Speaker 1>Markets to get a ring potentially for doing basically no work.

0:41:47.640 --> 0:41:50.040
<v Speaker 1>So that's what's going on, Philadel talking about that Mark

0:41:50.120 --> 0:41:54.680
<v Speaker 1>or this Mark whoever. All right, you're on fire, buddy,

0:41:55.560 --> 0:41:58.080
<v Speaker 1>all right? You know what? This this turned into something

0:41:58.200 --> 0:42:01.360
<v Speaker 1>very awkward. Now, how many more games are left on

0:42:01.400 --> 0:42:05.400
<v Speaker 1>this late? We got a bunch more Cleveland Pittsburgh Cleveland Browns.

0:42:05.400 --> 0:42:08.600
<v Speaker 1>They got the win that they needed and and with

0:42:08.680 --> 0:42:11.520
<v Speaker 1>the help of a forty Niners victory, still hold that

0:42:11.960 --> 0:42:15.400
<v Speaker 1>uh Number one spot. So now there is no discussion

0:42:15.440 --> 0:42:18.120
<v Speaker 1>about it. And you know, every game matters if you're

0:42:18.160 --> 0:42:20.520
<v Speaker 1>in the league and all that stuff. The Browns do

0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:22.239
<v Speaker 1>not want to win this game. And the good news,

0:42:22.320 --> 0:42:25.320
<v Speaker 1>Mark is that the Pittsburgh Steelers won't allow that to happen.

0:42:25.800 --> 0:42:28.239
<v Speaker 1>Right Well, I believe this was one of the games

0:42:28.280 --> 0:42:31.640
<v Speaker 1>where I was going to ask a huge question, ask

0:42:31.680 --> 0:42:33.560
<v Speaker 1>a huge question. I will because I think we've got

0:42:33.560 --> 0:42:35.879
<v Speaker 1>a lot of time to unpack the Steelers down the road.

0:42:36.360 --> 0:42:38.040
<v Speaker 1>You agree, you agree that the Steelers will win the

0:42:38.080 --> 0:42:41.799
<v Speaker 1>game while we're here, You know, honestly, I think it's

0:42:41.840 --> 0:42:45.120
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a The only time Cleveland's had

0:42:45.200 --> 0:42:48.440
<v Speaker 1>luck against Pittsburgh is in these late season games when

0:42:48.480 --> 0:42:50.760
<v Speaker 1>Big Ben has not played for whatever reason. It's happened

0:42:50.760 --> 0:42:53.399
<v Speaker 1>a couple of times. I still think that if most

0:42:53.400 --> 0:42:55.479
<v Speaker 1>of them, if Pittsburgh's defense is in there, they're gonna

0:42:55.480 --> 0:42:58.120
<v Speaker 1>win this game. It's in Pittsburgh to um So, I

0:42:58.360 --> 0:43:02.160
<v Speaker 1>mean I picked Pittsburgh officially for our NFL Network show

0:43:02.719 --> 0:43:07.320
<v Speaker 1>NFL Pick him West on Saturday three airings? Aren't there? Usually?

0:43:07.520 --> 0:43:11.080
<v Speaker 1>What is an eight thirty in the morning, twelve thirty pm,

0:43:11.200 --> 0:43:15.200
<v Speaker 1>and then one thirty in the a m little saucy,

0:43:15.360 --> 0:43:16.880
<v Speaker 1>get a little crunked up, and then you turn on

0:43:17.000 --> 0:43:19.600
<v Speaker 1>our show. It's a good day too. It's you know, typically,

0:43:19.640 --> 0:43:23.600
<v Speaker 1>oh it's Saturday, let's spend time with family. But I

0:43:23.600 --> 0:43:26.880
<v Speaker 1>I think that the move is to completely ignore family

0:43:27.239 --> 0:43:29.839
<v Speaker 1>and to just lock onto NFL Network all day long

0:43:29.880 --> 0:43:32.560
<v Speaker 1>and catch all three episodes live. Is that that's what

0:43:32.640 --> 0:43:34.720
<v Speaker 1>a real football fan would do? Is it the final

0:43:34.760 --> 0:43:37.759
<v Speaker 1>airing on New Year's Eve at one thirty am? You're

0:43:37.840 --> 0:43:41.960
<v Speaker 1>flying that night? Yeah? You are? Wow, that's a that's

0:43:42.000 --> 0:43:44.200
<v Speaker 1>what if you if you, Oh, should I go to

0:43:44.239 --> 0:43:47.239
<v Speaker 1>a bar? Should I pay for overpriced drinks? Should I

0:43:47.280 --> 0:43:49.359
<v Speaker 1>pay a hundred and fifty dollar cover to go to

0:43:49.400 --> 0:43:51.440
<v Speaker 1>an open bar? No? No, no no, no, no no no

0:43:51.440 --> 0:43:54.319
<v Speaker 1>no no no. Drink some whiskey and you know, I

0:43:54.320 --> 0:43:57.080
<v Speaker 1>have some beers and you know, eat some eat some

0:43:57.080 --> 0:43:59.080
<v Speaker 1>pizza rolls and then you watch you show at one

0:43:59.120 --> 0:44:00.719
<v Speaker 1>thirty and some pizza rolls. Or should I be an

0:44:00.800 --> 0:44:04.239
<v Speaker 1>NFL writer and have a full slate of games facing me?

0:44:04.320 --> 0:44:07.759
<v Speaker 1>The following morning on New Year's Day, paying a cover

0:44:07.920 --> 0:44:11.160
<v Speaker 1>charges a cry for help. Wherever you are is where

0:44:11.200 --> 0:44:14.480
<v Speaker 1>the fun is, not pay money because someone else has

0:44:14.480 --> 0:44:17.160
<v Speaker 1>the fun. Absolutely, Chris wasn't. How about a huge question

0:44:17.200 --> 0:44:19.320
<v Speaker 1>for a huge question, And it's gonna be Brown's oriented

0:44:19.360 --> 0:44:21.160
<v Speaker 1>because they're about to take a big dirt nap into

0:44:21.200 --> 0:44:25.000
<v Speaker 1>the off season. But could these Browns be dim enough

0:44:25.080 --> 0:44:27.839
<v Speaker 1>no matter what happens on Sunday to all right? Well,

0:44:27.880 --> 0:44:31.400
<v Speaker 1>there is a second part to that to even consider

0:44:31.640 --> 0:44:34.640
<v Speaker 1>the option of r G three as their starting quarterback

0:44:34.680 --> 0:44:37.239
<v Speaker 1>where that's how they maneuver with that position. Could they

0:44:37.320 --> 0:44:40.600
<v Speaker 1>possibly be dim enough? You know who said they are? Yeah,

0:44:40.680 --> 0:44:45.120
<v Speaker 1>that's pretty huge. It is a question, you know. You

0:44:45.160 --> 0:44:49.040
<v Speaker 1>know who said that. It's possibility. Joe freaking Thomas. Joe

0:44:49.080 --> 0:44:52.239
<v Speaker 1>Thomas said that if things fall a certain way, he

0:44:52.239 --> 0:44:54.759
<v Speaker 1>could kind of see r G three is the placeholder.

0:44:55.040 --> 0:44:57.520
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know if anyone is. We haven't seen

0:44:57.560 --> 0:44:59.520
<v Speaker 1>anything from r G three. If you're gonna be the

0:44:59.560 --> 0:45:01.560
<v Speaker 1>number one US, if you got the number one pick,

0:45:02.560 --> 0:45:04.640
<v Speaker 1>maybe that's another question. Can I ask a question off

0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:07.600
<v Speaker 1>that at RG three? Okay, you take a quarterback no

0:45:07.640 --> 0:45:10.680
<v Speaker 1>matter what with the first pick if they go into

0:45:10.719 --> 0:45:12.920
<v Speaker 1>next season with r G three and don't draft a quarterback,

0:45:12.960 --> 0:45:14.759
<v Speaker 1>the kid gloves her off, I'm gonna kill them all

0:45:14.840 --> 0:45:21.200
<v Speaker 1>year next year, I'm just gonna absolutely murder this. R

0:45:21.280 --> 0:45:23.759
<v Speaker 1>G three cannot stay healthy for one game in a row.

0:45:24.440 --> 0:45:26.080
<v Speaker 1>I think they have to know that. But I but

0:45:26.200 --> 0:45:29.160
<v Speaker 1>I I'm not sure because certain people in organization feel

0:45:29.800 --> 0:45:32.040
<v Speaker 1>at this point still feel highly about RG three. So

0:45:32.360 --> 0:45:34.279
<v Speaker 1>on the off chance that he does play more than

0:45:34.320 --> 0:45:38.400
<v Speaker 1>three quarters in a game, he doesn't read defenses like

0:45:38.480 --> 0:45:41.400
<v Speaker 1>as Mark said, he just drifts towards the sidelines, waiting

0:45:41.400 --> 0:45:43.279
<v Speaker 1>for a play to happen. The guy has been in

0:45:43.280 --> 0:45:46.120
<v Speaker 1>the league for five years and still can't slide. He's

0:45:46.120 --> 0:45:49.720
<v Speaker 1>a slogan here masquerading as a quarterback. Go make bumper stickers.

0:45:49.920 --> 0:45:53.319
<v Speaker 1>I I think I think there's a better chance he's

0:45:53.360 --> 0:45:56.000
<v Speaker 1>out of the league than starter of the Browns next year. Yeah,

0:45:56.000 --> 0:45:58.400
<v Speaker 1>I agree, I think little. I think that they had to.

0:45:59.040 --> 0:46:01.279
<v Speaker 1>They were intrigued with a chance. But you're gonna have

0:46:01.360 --> 0:46:03.520
<v Speaker 1>You have so many draft picks that you draft a

0:46:03.600 --> 0:46:06.319
<v Speaker 1>number of quarterbacks, and you know one other than Cody

0:46:06.400 --> 0:46:08.560
<v Speaker 1>Kessler in that quarterback whom we will be back next season.

0:46:08.640 --> 0:46:11.160
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's move on the Buffalo Bills and New

0:46:11.239 --> 0:46:14.399
<v Speaker 1>York Jets. You know, I said on our Sunday Night

0:46:14.440 --> 0:46:17.480
<v Speaker 1>podcast or Saturday podcast, it was setting up the hot

0:46:17.520 --> 0:46:19.880
<v Speaker 1>butt Bowl. We didn't even get that because Rex didn't

0:46:19.880 --> 0:46:22.319
<v Speaker 1>make it that far. He was fired. And uh, we're

0:46:22.360 --> 0:46:25.120
<v Speaker 1>seeing increasing reports out of New York that Todd Bowls's

0:46:25.239 --> 0:46:27.960
<v Speaker 1>job is most likely safe, which I'm happy to hear,

0:46:28.480 --> 0:46:31.560
<v Speaker 1>but it does ask two. It does lead to a

0:46:31.640 --> 0:46:34.720
<v Speaker 1>huge question tied into both these a f C East rivals,

0:46:35.080 --> 0:46:39.359
<v Speaker 1>which is this which organization is in deeper crap right now?

0:46:40.160 --> 0:46:43.480
<v Speaker 1>A huge question? Who is I mean, who's in it

0:46:43.640 --> 0:46:45.640
<v Speaker 1>deeper right now? The Bills are the Jets. When you

0:46:45.640 --> 0:46:49.319
<v Speaker 1>spin forward and beyond, I would today I would have

0:46:49.400 --> 0:46:52.080
<v Speaker 1>to go with the Jets because I think the Jets,

0:46:52.120 --> 0:46:55.880
<v Speaker 1>what they learned this season is that despite their efforts

0:46:55.920 --> 0:46:59.160
<v Speaker 1>to I think put a couple of band aids over

0:46:59.160 --> 0:47:00.920
<v Speaker 1>the roster and think that you can get out of

0:47:00.920 --> 0:47:02.840
<v Speaker 1>it with a productive team, that you found out that

0:47:02.880 --> 0:47:05.799
<v Speaker 1>the rebuilding effort is going to be uh deep there.

0:47:05.840 --> 0:47:09.000
<v Speaker 1>It's going to be gutting. And the Bills have some issues,

0:47:09.040 --> 0:47:11.800
<v Speaker 1>but they also have the chance to hire a coach

0:47:11.840 --> 0:47:14.879
<v Speaker 1>they believe in still make that change, and I think

0:47:14.880 --> 0:47:19.200
<v Speaker 1>there's more talent on Buffalo's roster. I agree. I hate

0:47:19.239 --> 0:47:21.399
<v Speaker 1>to say it because the way the Bills have run

0:47:21.440 --> 0:47:23.440
<v Speaker 1>in the last week or two is a little embarrassing.

0:47:23.840 --> 0:47:25.400
<v Speaker 1>That's part of the real I think that. I I

0:47:25.440 --> 0:47:28.239
<v Speaker 1>agree with that the Bills have a better roster, but

0:47:28.320 --> 0:47:30.640
<v Speaker 1>like you're saying, there's a lot of ugly stuff going

0:47:30.680 --> 0:47:32.600
<v Speaker 1>on in Buffalo right now. Yeah, I don't know how

0:47:32.800 --> 0:47:34.719
<v Speaker 1>what the staying power is with that. But when I

0:47:34.760 --> 0:47:37.960
<v Speaker 1>watched Lashawn McCoy run, looks still looks like a top

0:47:38.000 --> 0:47:40.800
<v Speaker 1>four or five running back to me, when Sammy Watkins

0:47:40.840 --> 0:47:43.319
<v Speaker 1>is healthy, you can see the potential there. They have

0:47:43.360 --> 0:47:46.000
<v Speaker 1>an offensive line that is paving the way for the

0:47:46.040 --> 0:47:49.120
<v Speaker 1>best running back or the statistically the best running game

0:47:49.120 --> 0:47:51.680
<v Speaker 1>in football, and there are some pieces on defense, whereas

0:47:51.719 --> 0:47:54.280
<v Speaker 1>with the Jets, I don't know what they have a quarterback,

0:47:54.400 --> 0:47:55.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what they have a running back. I

0:47:55.840 --> 0:47:58.200
<v Speaker 1>don't know what they have a wide receiver on defense.

0:47:58.239 --> 0:48:00.440
<v Speaker 1>Sheldon Richardson is supposed to be a nucleus player and

0:48:00.440 --> 0:48:02.120
<v Speaker 1>he's going to be out the door. It seems like

0:48:02.520 --> 0:48:05.480
<v Speaker 1>Wilkerson's coming off the worst season of his career, Rivis

0:48:05.520 --> 0:48:09.520
<v Speaker 1>has done. I don't know what you look forward to. Sorry, No,

0:48:09.680 --> 0:48:12.360
<v Speaker 1>I get it, you think, well, I think Mike mccagnan

0:48:12.800 --> 0:48:16.239
<v Speaker 1>he did something that probably in retrospect doesn't work, but

0:48:16.280 --> 0:48:18.799
<v Speaker 1>it almost did. Instead of he was faced with when

0:48:18.800 --> 0:48:21.640
<v Speaker 1>he took over the franchise, do I completely got the

0:48:21.680 --> 0:48:24.719
<v Speaker 1>thing or do I patch it up and and try

0:48:24.800 --> 0:48:27.719
<v Speaker 1>to rebuild on the fly, And also developed talent and

0:48:27.800 --> 0:48:30.000
<v Speaker 1>through the draft. And he almost got to the playoffs

0:48:30.040 --> 0:48:31.640
<v Speaker 1>last year. And I always think that they could have

0:48:31.640 --> 0:48:34.240
<v Speaker 1>been a little sneaky in the dangerous in the playoffs

0:48:34.320 --> 0:48:37.239
<v Speaker 1>last year. It didn't happen, and now they kind of

0:48:37.280 --> 0:48:39.520
<v Speaker 1>then they miss judge the situation, said all right, let's

0:48:39.560 --> 0:48:41.200
<v Speaker 1>try to get a second year out of some of

0:48:41.239 --> 0:48:43.520
<v Speaker 1>these veterans in places. Don't blame him, and it all yeah,

0:48:43.560 --> 0:48:45.759
<v Speaker 1>and it all kind of went to hell and so

0:48:45.840 --> 0:48:47.960
<v Speaker 1>now and that's why I think his job should be

0:48:47.960 --> 0:48:50.319
<v Speaker 1>safe as well. It's like, all right, now, we know

0:48:50.360 --> 0:48:52.160
<v Speaker 1>what we gotta do. We need to build this thing

0:48:52.200 --> 0:48:54.240
<v Speaker 1>from the bottom. We gotta get rid of some bad apples.

0:48:54.360 --> 0:48:56.719
<v Speaker 1>You gotta say goodbye to people like Derrell Rivas, and

0:48:56.760 --> 0:48:59.600
<v Speaker 1>maybe some tough cuts like Nick Mangold and other people

0:48:59.600 --> 0:49:02.200
<v Speaker 1>that clear cap room and really build this team from

0:49:02.200 --> 0:49:04.279
<v Speaker 1>the from the ground up. And that's gonna be a

0:49:04.280 --> 0:49:06.319
<v Speaker 1>lot of work. That's not that's not a fun thing

0:49:06.360 --> 0:49:09.040
<v Speaker 1>for the Jets vander here, but at least you're doing

0:49:09.040 --> 0:49:11.520
<v Speaker 1>it in the more traditional way rather than the band

0:49:11.520 --> 0:49:14.240
<v Speaker 1>aid way which ultimately didn't work, or blowing it up again,

0:49:14.640 --> 0:49:17.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, multiple tie. I like the idea that they're

0:49:17.320 --> 0:49:19.360
<v Speaker 1>least gonna say, let's try to stick with this and

0:49:19.400 --> 0:49:21.279
<v Speaker 1>see where we are. Yeah, and the and the as

0:49:21.280 --> 0:49:24.080
<v Speaker 1>far as the bill is better, better skill player, I mean,

0:49:24.200 --> 0:49:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Sammy Watkins ever going to really be a player in

0:49:26.000 --> 0:49:28.280
<v Speaker 1>this league. I hate what they've done with the quarterback

0:49:28.280 --> 0:49:30.720
<v Speaker 1>position because it felt like they had a potential solution

0:49:30.920 --> 0:49:33.680
<v Speaker 1>and they're gonna let him go out the door. Although

0:49:34.080 --> 0:49:36.799
<v Speaker 1>there is some intrigue on Tyrod Taylor report that he

0:49:36.880 --> 0:49:39.600
<v Speaker 1>now has a quote unquote serious groin injury which could

0:49:39.680 --> 0:49:46.000
<v Speaker 1>lead to that contract not being avoidable. It's gonna get tricky.

0:49:45.000 --> 0:49:48.520
<v Speaker 1>It's an ugly situation up there right now. Are we

0:49:48.640 --> 0:49:50.759
<v Speaker 1>just parroting what the agent says when he calls it

0:49:50.800 --> 0:49:53.759
<v Speaker 1>a serious groin injury after we saw him actually play

0:49:53.880 --> 0:49:56.319
<v Speaker 1>games for the past, and I could not agree with

0:49:56.360 --> 0:49:58.600
<v Speaker 1>you more and lead all quarterbacks and rushing. I don't

0:49:58.600 --> 0:50:01.160
<v Speaker 1>know if he played his best game that I've ever

0:50:01.200 --> 0:50:05.400
<v Speaker 1>seen last week, but let's let's move on to the

0:50:05.400 --> 0:50:08.080
<v Speaker 1>future and someone else I don't know, I didn't. I

0:50:08.120 --> 0:50:10.040
<v Speaker 1>feel bad for fans of both franchises and put it

0:50:10.120 --> 0:50:11.640
<v Speaker 1>that way, Well, it's more good news for the New

0:50:11.640 --> 0:50:16.400
<v Speaker 1>England Patriots exactly. Moving on. The Seattle Seahawks are a

0:50:16.440 --> 0:50:19.319
<v Speaker 1>team that you're trying to make sense of. They just

0:50:19.360 --> 0:50:23.840
<v Speaker 1>got beat by the Arizona Cardinals in their building, and

0:50:23.840 --> 0:50:26.520
<v Speaker 1>and now they faced the San Francisco forty Niners, which

0:50:26.520 --> 0:50:29.920
<v Speaker 1>should be getting the win. They need Chris westling Um

0:50:30.040 --> 0:50:32.560
<v Speaker 1>to help fortify and get a playoff by and all that.

0:50:32.600 --> 0:50:35.479
<v Speaker 1>But still a little worried about the Seattle Seahawks, aren't

0:50:35.480 --> 0:50:37.560
<v Speaker 1>you a little bit? A little bit? But not in

0:50:37.600 --> 0:50:39.960
<v Speaker 1>this game. You know you were at this game. They

0:50:40.000 --> 0:50:42.359
<v Speaker 1>still have that number two seed to play for, and

0:50:42.440 --> 0:50:44.319
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna be playing at the same time slot as

0:50:44.360 --> 0:50:46.959
<v Speaker 1>the Falcons. And if you look how they approached last

0:50:47.040 --> 0:50:50.560
<v Speaker 1>year's regular season finale, blew the absolute doors off. The

0:50:50.600 --> 0:50:54.520
<v Speaker 1>Arizona Cardinals came in and the Cardinals arrogance store up

0:50:54.520 --> 0:50:56.160
<v Speaker 1>and down all week. They were playing to win. They

0:50:56.200 --> 0:50:58.440
<v Speaker 1>were playing to win. He ended up pulling his starters

0:50:58.480 --> 0:51:00.480
<v Speaker 1>because they were getting their asses kicked so badly by

0:51:00.480 --> 0:51:02.839
<v Speaker 1>the Seahawks in that game. I think Pete Carroll will

0:51:02.880 --> 0:51:05.640
<v Speaker 1>have these guys ready to play. The concern is the

0:51:05.680 --> 0:51:09.880
<v Speaker 1>offensive line that sometimes just matches up so poorly against

0:51:09.880 --> 0:51:13.480
<v Speaker 1>an opponent's front seven that it just upsets the entire

0:51:13.719 --> 0:51:17.000
<v Speaker 1>flow of the Seahawks offense. Halftime of last week's game,

0:51:17.400 --> 0:51:20.640
<v Speaker 1>Bruce Arians and two typical Arians fashion tells Pam Oliver,

0:51:21.280 --> 0:51:24.120
<v Speaker 1>we've been kicking their offensive lines. Asked for three years

0:51:24.400 --> 0:51:28.760
<v Speaker 1>at halftime of a game, he says, it Arians is back.

0:51:29.160 --> 0:51:31.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean I I couldn't agree more that whatever their

0:51:31.600 --> 0:51:34.879
<v Speaker 1>issues are won't affect them in Week seventeen. But this

0:51:34.960 --> 0:51:37.120
<v Speaker 1>is a team that is tied with the Texans for

0:51:37.200 --> 0:51:40.719
<v Speaker 1>the lowest amount of touchdowns on the road. If they

0:51:40.719 --> 0:51:43.279
<v Speaker 1>don't get the number two seed for some reason and

0:51:43.320 --> 0:51:45.560
<v Speaker 1>they're forced to kind of mind their way through the

0:51:45.680 --> 0:51:49.440
<v Speaker 1>NFC as road warriors, I don't like their chances. I

0:51:49.480 --> 0:51:51.760
<v Speaker 1>could see them ending the same way that the Cardinals

0:51:51.800 --> 0:51:56.239
<v Speaker 1>did in Carolina last year, getting romped in the NFC Championship.

0:51:56.760 --> 0:51:59.280
<v Speaker 1>They the offensive line is not something that you're gonna

0:51:59.320 --> 0:52:01.520
<v Speaker 1>fix between now in the Super Bowl, So they're gonna

0:52:01.520 --> 0:52:03.560
<v Speaker 1>have to live with that weakness, and that could be

0:52:03.600 --> 0:52:07.200
<v Speaker 1>a fatal flaw. I think Russell Wilson also, we've been

0:52:07.200 --> 0:52:09.400
<v Speaker 1>waiting for his health to get back to where it was.

0:52:10.320 --> 0:52:12.279
<v Speaker 1>Twice last week they had him running a lot of

0:52:12.320 --> 0:52:14.480
<v Speaker 1>design runs. First of all, with you would make you

0:52:14.480 --> 0:52:17.759
<v Speaker 1>think he's getting healthier. Twice he could not beat linebacker

0:52:17.840 --> 0:52:20.719
<v Speaker 1>c O. Moore to the edge in open space any

0:52:20.719 --> 0:52:22.520
<v Speaker 1>other year of his career he makes that play. He's

0:52:22.560 --> 0:52:25.880
<v Speaker 1>not what he was. And they're running game besides Russell

0:52:25.880 --> 0:52:28.520
<v Speaker 1>Wilson is an issue this season. They're tied for twenty

0:52:28.560 --> 0:52:30.960
<v Speaker 1>second in rushing the hundred yards of game. They were

0:52:30.960 --> 0:52:33.719
<v Speaker 1>in the top four every year since Russell Wilson came

0:52:33.719 --> 0:52:36.399
<v Speaker 1>aboard in two thousand twelve. So it's just, I mean,

0:52:36.440 --> 0:52:38.520
<v Speaker 1>between the running game that being there, we don't know

0:52:38.560 --> 0:52:41.120
<v Speaker 1>about Russell Wilson's health or al Thomas being out of

0:52:41.160 --> 0:52:44.319
<v Speaker 1>the picture. They're they're they're up against it a little bit,

0:52:44.320 --> 0:52:46.879
<v Speaker 1>and and and the other teams in the NFC, which

0:52:46.960 --> 0:52:50.239
<v Speaker 1>is we're talking Dallas obviously, but Atlanta and Green Bay

0:52:50.320 --> 0:52:53.480
<v Speaker 1>in the In the Seahawks, you're you don't quite have

0:52:53.600 --> 0:52:56.880
<v Speaker 1>the defense to say, we're just gonna smother these offenses,

0:52:56.880 --> 0:52:58.759
<v Speaker 1>and we don't have the offense to to keep up

0:52:58.800 --> 0:53:01.160
<v Speaker 1>with them. So I just I don't love the dynamic

0:53:01.160 --> 0:53:03.520
<v Speaker 1>heading into the playoffs for Seattle. Well, I know we

0:53:04.160 --> 0:53:07.319
<v Speaker 1>we respect their mental toughness, yes, but how much of

0:53:07.320 --> 0:53:11.359
<v Speaker 1>their mental toughness came from Earl Thomas Marshawn Lynch, who's

0:53:11.400 --> 0:53:15.120
<v Speaker 1>no longer there. They still have guys that are great players.

0:53:15.239 --> 0:53:18.680
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not saying that Lynch and Thomas were everything,

0:53:18.719 --> 0:53:20.600
<v Speaker 1>but you're taking away two players that were part of

0:53:20.640 --> 0:53:24.240
<v Speaker 1>their championship runts and a good portion of the football

0:53:24.239 --> 0:53:28.720
<v Speaker 1>COGNISCENTI was booking Patriots Seahawks Super Bowl rematch. Don't forget

0:53:28.920 --> 0:53:30.520
<v Speaker 1>it was a long time ago now it feels like,

0:53:30.520 --> 0:53:32.920
<v Speaker 1>but the Seahawks went into New England and won a

0:53:33.000 --> 0:53:35.879
<v Speaker 1>game in prime time. This game is a proud team

0:53:35.880 --> 0:53:37.960
<v Speaker 1>with a lot of big time players. Can't count them

0:53:38.000 --> 0:53:40.520
<v Speaker 1>out entirely, but we'll see what happens. Let's move on

0:53:41.080 --> 0:53:45.440
<v Speaker 1>the New Orleans Saints seven and eight. Capping another I

0:53:45.440 --> 0:53:48.160
<v Speaker 1>mean I feel like they've gotten seven and eight, seven

0:53:48.160 --> 0:53:50.279
<v Speaker 1>and nine, eight and eight, nine and seven for about

0:53:50.320 --> 0:53:53.560
<v Speaker 1>twenties straight years now. But now they travel to the

0:53:53.560 --> 0:53:57.880
<v Speaker 1>Falcons and and the Falcons listen, there we go tenant five.

0:53:58.320 --> 0:54:01.120
<v Speaker 1>It's in their hands here. Uh uh? And and West,

0:54:01.160 --> 0:54:04.200
<v Speaker 1>I know you wrote about it in your top ten

0:54:04.360 --> 0:54:06.719
<v Speaker 1>m VP candidates. You see, Matt and we talked about

0:54:06.760 --> 0:54:09.879
<v Speaker 1>it on the show on Tuesday, Matt Ryan, how about

0:54:09.920 --> 0:54:12.840
<v Speaker 1>put the finishing touches on that m v P resume

0:54:13.080 --> 0:54:15.439
<v Speaker 1>and roped the Saints and get that get that first

0:54:15.520 --> 0:54:18.000
<v Speaker 1>round by yeah. I think Matt Ryan needs it because

0:54:18.040 --> 0:54:20.080
<v Speaker 1>this m v P race is much closer than it

0:54:20.120 --> 0:54:24.200
<v Speaker 1>should be, and it's really a much needed litmus test

0:54:24.280 --> 0:54:27.480
<v Speaker 1>for the Falcons defense where they have kept three opponents

0:54:27.520 --> 0:54:30.440
<v Speaker 1>in a row under twenty points. But those three opponents

0:54:30.440 --> 0:54:35.720
<v Speaker 1>were Jared Goff's Rams, Colin Kappernicks, and Cam Newton's Panthers.

0:54:35.760 --> 0:54:40.120
<v Speaker 1>And Cam Newton last six games is the third worst

0:54:40.120 --> 0:54:45.120
<v Speaker 1>completion rate by a quarterback since he's not the Cam

0:54:45.160 --> 0:54:47.480
<v Speaker 1>Newton of last year. So I don't think you're getting

0:54:47.480 --> 0:54:49.720
<v Speaker 1>a real test until these Saints come into your building.

0:54:50.160 --> 0:54:51.960
<v Speaker 1>This is gonna be a big game. For that defense.

0:54:52.840 --> 0:54:55.839
<v Speaker 1>I don't love the matchup for the stakes here having

0:54:55.840 --> 0:54:58.400
<v Speaker 1>to deal with with with the Saints and Drew Brees

0:54:58.880 --> 0:55:01.920
<v Speaker 1>for all the I think the Saints ended up in

0:55:01.960 --> 0:55:06.680
<v Speaker 1>many ways being exactly what we projected, which is a

0:55:06.760 --> 0:55:10.120
<v Speaker 1>middle of the road team with an electric offense and

0:55:10.239 --> 0:55:13.719
<v Speaker 1>not enough parts on defense to to to to seal

0:55:13.760 --> 0:55:17.400
<v Speaker 1>the deal and so but still they're the kind of

0:55:17.400 --> 0:55:19.480
<v Speaker 1>team that could beat anyone any week and I wouldn't

0:55:19.480 --> 0:55:22.279
<v Speaker 1>be shocked. I I think that the Falcons if I

0:55:22.360 --> 0:55:25.600
<v Speaker 1>want the best playoff scenario that we can get in

0:55:25.600 --> 0:55:28.160
<v Speaker 1>the NFC, you want to see them get that by

0:55:28.200 --> 0:55:31.080
<v Speaker 1>and have a chance to go deal with Dallas in

0:55:31.120 --> 0:55:34.080
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs in the NFC Championship and they all they

0:55:34.120 --> 0:55:36.360
<v Speaker 1>have to do is win here. They win this game.

0:55:36.719 --> 0:55:38.759
<v Speaker 1>If you lose by the way, it's it's not a

0:55:38.800 --> 0:55:41.719
<v Speaker 1>great look. I mean, I don't expect them too though.

0:55:41.719 --> 0:55:44.240
<v Speaker 1>I think, like you said, the Saints are frisky, especially

0:55:44.239 --> 0:55:47.760
<v Speaker 1>at home. But Atlanta is playing real well right now

0:55:47.760 --> 0:55:50.320
<v Speaker 1>and west have you said they they have been consistent

0:55:50.360 --> 0:55:51.960
<v Speaker 1>all the way through on offense and they kind of

0:55:52.000 --> 0:55:55.040
<v Speaker 1>make up for the blemishes on defense. Uh they should

0:55:55.200 --> 0:55:57.000
<v Speaker 1>if they don't take care of business. You're right, it's

0:55:57.000 --> 0:55:59.759
<v Speaker 1>a very bad sign. But we all think they will. Right.

0:56:00.480 --> 0:56:02.960
<v Speaker 1>I do what we do. We do two about wehred

0:56:02.960 --> 0:56:04.480
<v Speaker 1>to use our locks. You want to do a triple

0:56:04.600 --> 0:56:08.160
<v Speaker 1>lock from you? No, I'm just kidding with a chance

0:56:08.200 --> 0:56:11.480
<v Speaker 1>to go oh in six. If we get them both wrong, well,

0:56:11.480 --> 0:56:14.399
<v Speaker 1>if you're repeal a lot, never mind, it doesn't count.

0:56:15.200 --> 0:56:19.360
<v Speaker 1>Let's move on. Let's ask another huge question Chris Westling,

0:56:19.480 --> 0:56:23.200
<v Speaker 1>the Jaguars and Cults. Uh, nothing to play for here.

0:56:23.320 --> 0:56:25.680
<v Speaker 1>The Texans locked up the a f C South last week.

0:56:26.080 --> 0:56:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Tom Coughlin interviewed with the Jaguars. That's a little news note. Uh.

0:56:30.040 --> 0:56:32.879
<v Speaker 1>And it just feels like that's where that this could

0:56:32.920 --> 0:56:35.560
<v Speaker 1>be heading that job. But you never know. How about

0:56:35.560 --> 0:56:38.000
<v Speaker 1>a huge questions? You know? I was all set to

0:56:38.040 --> 0:56:39.960
<v Speaker 1>ask about the Courts. I even had it written down

0:56:39.960 --> 0:56:43.040
<v Speaker 1>on this page. But I since you're done with the Colts,

0:56:43.120 --> 0:56:46.319
<v Speaker 1>probably because you said last week I'm done with the Yeah,

0:56:46.400 --> 0:56:48.799
<v Speaker 1>so let's not you took them literally. I mean, I

0:56:48.840 --> 0:56:51.000
<v Speaker 1>don't like that. We've talked about the Colts and awful

0:56:51.040 --> 0:56:53.880
<v Speaker 1>lot on this podcast for four years. I'm done with

0:56:53.960 --> 0:56:56.719
<v Speaker 1>him for a little while. Too cool, cool, go go

0:56:56.800 --> 0:56:58.800
<v Speaker 1>your seven and eight, go, you're seven and nine, disappoint

0:56:58.880 --> 0:57:01.799
<v Speaker 1>us again? Whatever, don't build your offensive line, don't build

0:57:01.800 --> 0:57:05.759
<v Speaker 1>your defense. All right, I'm done with you through While Jaguars, look,

0:57:05.840 --> 0:57:08.759
<v Speaker 1>Jalen Ramsey has been arguably the best cornerback in the

0:57:08.840 --> 0:57:12.480
<v Speaker 1>NFL and December Telvin Smith is a Pro bowler. Their

0:57:12.560 --> 0:57:16.480
<v Speaker 1>front seven absolutely demolished a Titans offensive line that's supposed

0:57:16.480 --> 0:57:18.600
<v Speaker 1>to be one of the best in the league. Do

0:57:18.680 --> 0:57:21.439
<v Speaker 1>they at least have the defense in place last next

0:57:21.480 --> 0:57:24.840
<v Speaker 1>year for the new coaching staff to come in and contend.

0:57:25.120 --> 0:57:26.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you can fix the quote, is that

0:57:26.600 --> 0:57:30.920
<v Speaker 1>defense there enormous question? Alert? I think absolutely. And we

0:57:31.040 --> 0:57:34.400
<v Speaker 1>have to look at going into this season how little

0:57:34.440 --> 0:57:37.400
<v Speaker 1>these guys had played together that the idea that they

0:57:37.440 --> 0:57:40.200
<v Speaker 1>were going to gel by the end of September was

0:57:40.280 --> 0:57:42.840
<v Speaker 1>it was a tall order to begin with. And yeah,

0:57:42.920 --> 0:57:46.320
<v Speaker 1>I think if you're someone these guys that interview for

0:57:46.360 --> 0:57:48.680
<v Speaker 1>these jobs, they're so rare that you'd almost take any

0:57:48.760 --> 0:57:51.080
<v Speaker 1>job that you get. But if you have your pick,

0:57:51.640 --> 0:57:55.560
<v Speaker 1>if Jacksonville is attractive for one reason, it's there's so

0:57:55.720 --> 0:57:58.880
<v Speaker 1>many young players on defense and you're starting to already

0:57:58.920 --> 0:58:01.840
<v Speaker 1>see it's blossomed. This season at the end of the year.

0:58:01.880 --> 0:58:05.120
<v Speaker 1>Not no help to Gus Bradley. You've got issues on offense.

0:58:05.160 --> 0:58:07.720
<v Speaker 1>But I do think that the defense is extremely attractive

0:58:07.760 --> 0:58:10.600
<v Speaker 1>for any qualified candidate. I think the defense is just

0:58:10.680 --> 0:58:12.560
<v Speaker 1>about there. They're showing it. They've gotten better as the

0:58:12.560 --> 0:58:14.840
<v Speaker 1>season has gone on. If they end up having one

0:58:14.880 --> 0:58:18.439
<v Speaker 1>of the top three cornerbacks in football that as as

0:58:18.480 --> 0:58:20.920
<v Speaker 1>a jetsman or every when Rivas was the man that

0:58:21.160 --> 0:58:23.760
<v Speaker 1>that is such a huge gift to have to build

0:58:23.800 --> 0:58:25.480
<v Speaker 1>a defense. When you have that guy can lock down

0:58:25.520 --> 0:58:27.960
<v Speaker 1>half a field. So yeah, I mean, I will say

0:58:28.000 --> 0:58:30.680
<v Speaker 1>this was because I had written a question too. We

0:58:30.760 --> 0:58:35.280
<v Speaker 1>worked it out before the show. Mine was also Jaguars

0:58:35.560 --> 0:58:38.400
<v Speaker 1>they're done? How about this? If the Jaguars do go

0:58:38.440 --> 0:58:40.640
<v Speaker 1>ahead and and are you okay with me asking a

0:58:40.840 --> 0:58:43.400
<v Speaker 1>Jags fall? I welcome it. Yeah, this is a great

0:58:43.440 --> 0:58:46.800
<v Speaker 1>podcast showing by you today. You know you're on fire yourself.

0:58:46.880 --> 0:58:50.680
<v Speaker 1>West Um. Uh. If the Jacks go ahead and hire

0:58:50.680 --> 0:58:52.560
<v Speaker 1>an offensive minded coach, which I think would be a

0:58:52.600 --> 0:58:56.240
<v Speaker 1>huge upset. If they hire a defensive coach after what

0:58:56.280 --> 0:59:00.200
<v Speaker 1>happened to Us Bradley, Uh, does that guy um go

0:59:00.320 --> 0:59:02.400
<v Speaker 1>find a new quarterback? Or do you take the new

0:59:02.440 --> 0:59:05.080
<v Speaker 1>offensive coach and trying to fix Blake Bortles and still

0:59:05.080 --> 0:59:07.720
<v Speaker 1>stay on the Blake Bortles train. Mark Oh, I don't

0:59:07.720 --> 0:59:10.120
<v Speaker 1>know what to make of last week with Blake Bortles, because,

0:59:10.280 --> 0:59:12.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, complicated a little bit. That said, I think

0:59:12.920 --> 0:59:15.760
<v Speaker 1>what Blake Bortles seems to need, um, if you kind

0:59:15.800 --> 0:59:19.320
<v Speaker 1>of read what people are saying about Bordles in general,

0:59:19.840 --> 0:59:22.800
<v Speaker 1>is someone to light a fire under him and make

0:59:22.840 --> 0:59:25.360
<v Speaker 1>it very clear to Blake Bortles that nothing conna be

0:59:25.400 --> 0:59:30.280
<v Speaker 1>handed to him. That feels right, Yeah, I mean Coughlin,

0:59:30.360 --> 0:59:31.880
<v Speaker 1>you have to ask call is Coughing gonna be a

0:59:31.920 --> 0:59:33.920
<v Speaker 1>coach that you're gonna have in there with a very

0:59:34.040 --> 0:59:37.040
<v Speaker 1>young team for the next seven or eight years. Certainly

0:59:37.040 --> 0:59:39.280
<v Speaker 1>not so it's almost like a bridge to someone else.

0:59:39.720 --> 0:59:42.440
<v Speaker 1>But they it's the staff you build around the head coach.

0:59:42.680 --> 0:59:46.200
<v Speaker 1>There have to be whether it's offensive coordinator, quarterback, coach,

0:59:46.400 --> 0:59:49.320
<v Speaker 1>whatever you have in there that can communicate with Blake

0:59:49.360 --> 0:59:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Bortles and wake him up that last week's game was

0:59:53.440 --> 0:59:57.600
<v Speaker 1>was bizarre and fascinating. Doug Marone emptied out his trick

0:59:57.640 --> 1:00:01.520
<v Speaker 1>playbook and had misdirection and play action going all day,

1:00:01.800 --> 1:00:04.440
<v Speaker 1>and Blake Bortles feasted on that. Blake Bortles played well.

1:00:05.040 --> 1:00:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Talking about lightning a fire. Somebody lit a fire under

1:00:07.040 --> 1:00:10.080
<v Speaker 1>Allen Robinson who hasn't played with that much zeal all year,

1:00:10.680 --> 1:00:13.880
<v Speaker 1>and he played a phenomenal game. I don't. I think

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<v Speaker 1>the answer to your question, Dan is you're invested so

1:00:16.120 --> 1:00:18.920
<v Speaker 1>much in Blake Bortles that you are going, if you're

1:00:18.920 --> 1:00:20.760
<v Speaker 1>an offensive coach, you are going to try to fix him.

1:00:20.960 --> 1:00:23.680
<v Speaker 1>You're also gonna bring in a better backup just in

1:00:23.680 --> 1:00:26.600
<v Speaker 1>case it doesn't work out, because you cannot have one

1:00:26.640 --> 1:00:31.160
<v Speaker 1>player sinking your entire season like Blake Bortles did this year. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>good job, guys, Let's move on more. A huge question time, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Cecil, the Chicago Bears, Oh, the team of a

1:00:39.280 --> 1:00:41.560
<v Speaker 1>t L. The Minnesota Vikings are part of a huge

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<v Speaker 1>question segment. Uh in seventeen? Very sad? How about a

1:00:48.400 --> 1:00:52.040
<v Speaker 1>huge question? Mark? Will this be the last game John

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<v Speaker 1>Fox coaches as a head coach in our lifetime? Or

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<v Speaker 1>be any hu jerk? I mean there are larger questions

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<v Speaker 1>in you know, the scope of life. So yes to answer,

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Fragola, it was actually a Chandler being right there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes to answer, Chandler tramped all over the friends. Can

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<v Speaker 1>we hear one more time? Could that question be any

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<v Speaker 1>you jerk? I said, Frank's give me your best Chandler

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<v Speaker 1>in a big spot, and what you do? She did

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<v Speaker 1>a good job anyway you John Fox, he'll be back.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't they make you know? They seem to be a

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<v Speaker 1>little frisky. I like him. They need a better quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>This quarterback thing, it's all over the league. Everybody needs

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<v Speaker 1>a quarterback. But that Barkley. I kind of think the

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<v Speaker 1>best thing could have happened to the Bears in Week

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen was Barkley's four interception implosion in the second half.

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<v Speaker 1>Lest anyone think he's the answer on any level, you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have what what are they? Four and eleven? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think anybody beyond the fan level thought that Matt

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<v Speaker 1>Barkley was okay answer. So that I mean, if anyone

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<v Speaker 1>was on the fence in that building, now they're not,

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<v Speaker 1>I would think. But so now you go out and

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<v Speaker 1>you and you get a quarterback, and I think John Fox,

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<v Speaker 1>there's another that's of minded coach. But I think they're

1:02:01.720 --> 1:02:04.080
<v Speaker 1>playing hard for him. I think they've there. I think

1:02:04.080 --> 1:02:05.680
<v Speaker 1>he's a pretty good coach. I know he's not that

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<v Speaker 1>popular in this room. Uh in general. We had some

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<v Speaker 1>fun with the way he was overmatching the Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years ago. But I think Fox deserves

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<v Speaker 1>to do back. What do you think he never had

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<v Speaker 1>a chance this year between being stuck with Jake Cutler

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<v Speaker 1>as your quarterback, which come on that he's not a

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<v Speaker 1>real answer, and then the injuries on offense. Just you

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<v Speaker 1>lose Kevin White, you lose part of your offensive line,

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<v Speaker 1>you lose all Sean Jeffrey to suspension, you lose your

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<v Speaker 1>running that, you lose your tight end. He never had

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<v Speaker 1>a chance this year. I think you give him another shot. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd agree. I mean, I think the problem is this year,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're gonna go fire someone who is that you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to bring in that that's out there, that that

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<v Speaker 1>really excites you and you can market your franchise around

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<v Speaker 1>I mean maybe McDaniels. Yeah, but there's only one Josh McDaniels.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't think he's gonna go to Chicago Bears.

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<v Speaker 1>That's I mean, if he's got his pick, is that

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<v Speaker 1>the Bears you go to where you've got all these questions,

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<v Speaker 1>especially at the quarterback positions is everyone if you trade

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<v Speaker 1>for Eastern Illinois Jimmy Garoppolo, right, if this is a

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<v Speaker 1>it's almost like an any given Sunday final scene where

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<v Speaker 1>al Pacino takes Jamie Fox with him somewhere. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that that's that's one kind of option, kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>Scott took pop is that even pop culture? It's from

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<v Speaker 1>literally it's from roughly seventeen years ago. So Scott Bailly

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<v Speaker 1>took Matt Castle with him to Kansas City. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>there's some press, uh is there are people this is

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<v Speaker 1>a little off topic with the whole Josh McDaniels thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Are a little too much assumption that he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be hit his second time around. I mean he was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a disaster. I think there's an assumption, there's

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<v Speaker 1>two maybe two much of an assumption that he would

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<v Speaker 1>leave New England. I would just say this that new

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<v Speaker 1>the role he has in New England is absolutely uh

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<v Speaker 1>ideal for him. And he's got a big family and

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<v Speaker 1>that sometimes factors in. So he's got to be the

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<v Speaker 1>right the right thing in terms of his success. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you go into a team that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have a functioning quarterback to start. I don't assume that

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<v Speaker 1>any play caller slash coordinator will automatically be a great

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<v Speaker 1>head coach. Totally different job, go at that skill. But

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<v Speaker 1>I do think that Josh McDaniels is a different human

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<v Speaker 1>being now than he was when he landed in Denver.

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<v Speaker 1>He's learned so much and he's changed in a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of ways. He talked about that before the Patriots Super

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl two years ago, that he did want to be

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<v Speaker 1>a head coach, but that he grew and he learned

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<v Speaker 1>a lot from that Denver job. These guys have to

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<v Speaker 1>stop acting like Belichick and be their own man when

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<v Speaker 1>they go out into the coaching If I were in

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<v Speaker 1>the position of being under a hugely successful coach and

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<v Speaker 1>I became a very hot name like Josh McDaniels is

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<v Speaker 1>right now, the number one thing I would do. I

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<v Speaker 1>would never go to a team that had quarterback unrest.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how I would play. I would find the spot

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<v Speaker 1>where there's an established star quarterback that's not too old,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's where I'm going because and even the best

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<v Speaker 1>most qualified young coach, if you go to Chicago and

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<v Speaker 1>you're in quarterback hell, you're gonna get fired. In two

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<v Speaker 1>or three years. The problem is that these vacancies are

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<v Speaker 1>attached to quarterback. Hell, yeah, you know, it's a tough situation.

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<v Speaker 1>So truthy balance, you know what? Mark? Yes? Greg, Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Well it's a tricky balance. Do you think that Mark

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<v Speaker 1>just made a great point there? This this dude on fine?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there is a tremendous amount, a disturbing amount

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<v Speaker 1>of naval gazing going on in this in this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>the dudes on fire? All right. Finally, the Arizona Cardinals

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<v Speaker 1>travel to the Colosseum to face the Rams, two disappointing

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<v Speaker 1>teams in the NFC West this season, So there's only

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<v Speaker 1>one thing to do. Chris Westley ask a huge question,

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<v Speaker 1>either done with the Colts as of last week? I've

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<v Speaker 1>been done with the Rams for four years. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna be about the Cardinals. Wore you go on?

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<v Speaker 1>Is there is there anything more depressing that the Vikings

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even get the huge question? What a sad end

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<v Speaker 1>to the season. It's an appropriate end, it is, it is,

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<v Speaker 1>okay Westcott, I was gonna let Mark answer that question

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<v Speaker 1>since the Vikings are his team. You know, well they are.

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<v Speaker 1>I am. I am about four days away from detaching

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<v Speaker 1>from that dynamic you woge question on the Cardinals, Carson

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<v Speaker 1>Palmer has actually played the best ball of his season

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<v Speaker 1>over the last month behind a turnstile offensive line with

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Floyd out of the picture and not much out

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<v Speaker 1>of John Brown. Have we seen enough from Palmer? And

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<v Speaker 1>if we can get Larry Fitzgerald to come back because

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<v Speaker 1>he's seen enough at a Palmer he fixed that offensive line,

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<v Speaker 1>the Cardinals can be right back in the playoffs next year.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost too big. It's a huge question. It's very

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<v Speaker 1>big question. Hm. I mean, all you have to do

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<v Speaker 1>is answer it. I have we seen enough? Have you

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<v Speaker 1>seen enough? West? And your your tape study in the

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<v Speaker 1>last couple of weeks from Carson Palmer to wipe out

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<v Speaker 1>the other twelve weeks where he looked like an old

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<v Speaker 1>poodle peeing on his leg. I never thought that Carson

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<v Speaker 1>Palmer was washed up. I wonder why that sentiment was

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<v Speaker 1>out there. His arm is as strong as it ever was.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't move as well as he did last year,

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<v Speaker 1>but he doesn't move like two thousand and fifteen Peyton

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<v Speaker 1>Manning either. Never did I think that Carson Palmer was

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest problem on the Cardinals. I mean, we've just

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<v Speaker 1>gone through a litany of teams that have issues at

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<v Speaker 1>that position. So my my move would be to automatically say,

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<v Speaker 1>with the coach that believes so much in Carson Palmer

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<v Speaker 1>and Larry Fitzgerald, who doesn't want to have some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of X factor at quarterback, if you want to get

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<v Speaker 1>him back, it's got to be tied to a guy trust.

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, you give it one more shot. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you do. I think it was such a disappointing season

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<v Speaker 1>from them, and we we see people like Tom Brady

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<v Speaker 1>and assume that all late thirties quarterbacks will sustain themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>I could also see Carson Palmer completely falling apart. It

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<v Speaker 1>could be a breat far of two thousand ten types

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<v Speaker 1>scenario could be that situation too, But I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>when his ceiling and we've seen enough of positive things

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<v Speaker 1>this year. You do bring them back, and maybe it

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<v Speaker 1>ends up being a mistake, but you feel good about Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we wanted to give it one less, one more chance,

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<v Speaker 1>rather than maybe cutting it too soon. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>is time for them too, and I know that they've

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<v Speaker 1>tried to draft a few quarterbacks here and there to

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<v Speaker 1>have a contingency plan because as Dan said, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>the contingency plan maybe coming into action a week eight

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<v Speaker 1>next year. It may not be two thousand eighteen. It's

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<v Speaker 1>interesting because the last two combines we've been sitting there

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<v Speaker 1>at the podium listening to Climb and Arians, and they've

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<v Speaker 1>both mentioned in the last two combines, we need to

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<v Speaker 1>draft our quarterback of the future. And they went out

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<v Speaker 1>and got Logan Thomas, who's a tight end in a

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback's body, and cut him. And then they didn't draft

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<v Speaker 1>anybody last year, but they definitely have to this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Lar Fitzgerald is the heart and soul that organization. He

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<v Speaker 1>ain't coming back up. Drew Stanton's quarterback next year. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, and I think to the extent that anyone

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<v Speaker 1>but Tom Brady, he is the heart and soul. All Right,

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<v Speaker 1>there you go. Weeks seventeen preview. We had our fun.

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<v Speaker 1>We showed Cletus Cletus. If you're in periscope, one last

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<v Speaker 1>look at Cletus be where he goes to the big

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<v Speaker 1>trash can in the sky or the trash can that's

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<v Speaker 1>right over there on the floor, located on the floor.

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<v Speaker 1>The next time you hear from us, it will be

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday night our final recap in the regular season, which

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense because it is the final week of the

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<v Speaker 1>regular season. Uh and then it is playoff time. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>here we go. So thank you to everybody for listening,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for following along on periscope. Thank you to

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<v Speaker 1>cleid Us uh and Greg come back to us because

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<v Speaker 1>Cletus is getting comfortable in your spot until Sunday. This

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<v Speaker 1>is Dan Hansas signing up for a quiet storm the

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<v Speaker 1>mail man, good old Cleadas, a new Monday behind the

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<v Speaker 1>glass to Sunday eight