1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 2: Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Absolute chaos last 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 2: night on college campuses from the East to the West 5 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 2: coast of the United States. Joe Biden responds this morning 6 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: by deciding to give you six billion dollars more national 7 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 2: debt for art graduates. 8 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: This is real. 9 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 2: Also, CBS reports that the White House is planning to 10 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 2: settle Gaza refugees, the same people that Egypt will not take, 11 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: the same people that just murdered twelve hundred innocent Jews. 12 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: They want the Biden administration does for you and me 13 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 2: and all of America to open our arms to the 14 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: cold blooded killers there. This does not feel like a 15 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 2: very good decision. In many ways, it feels like the 16 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: Biden administration is actually trying to lose. 17 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 1: They feel so tone. 18 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: Deaf and so out of touch with America that every 19 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 2: single day there is more evidence building that Joe Biden 20 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 2: is the worst president. 21 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: In any of our lives and is hapless and. 22 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 2: Unable to find the right way to bring America together. Remember, 23 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 2: he famously claimed, based on a lie, of course, that 24 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 2: after Charlottesville he felt compelled to run for president of 25 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 2: the United States. Well, now there are hundreds, if not 26 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 2: thousands of Charlottesville's taking place all over the country and 27 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 2: Biden is doing nothing to stop it. Buck last night, 28 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 2: credit to the NYPD who Columbia finally called in to 29 00:01:55,400 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 2: reclaim their property after idiot protesters took over campus buildings 30 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 2: to face them significantly based on the videos that are 31 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 2: being shared this morning of what they did inside of 32 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 2: those buildings. Simultaneously, a mass brawl effectively broke out at 33 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 2: UCLA where Jewish students were not being permitted to enter 34 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 2: many different parts of campus, and that finally required an 35 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 2: action to be taken from the Los Angeles Police Department 36 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 2: to come in at the UCLA encampment. Two different sides 37 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 2: of the country, New York and LA, both out of control, 38 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 2: both virulently anti Semitic in a way frankly that has 39 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 2: never occurred that I have seen in my life. The 40 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 2: left is sick. Biden has no answer because the Identity 41 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 2: politics coalition that elected him is made up still of 42 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 2: Jewish and Arab individuals, and so he's trying to both 43 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 2: sides it. He's trying to do what he claimed Trump 44 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 2: did false at Charlottesville, and he's been doing it for 45 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 2: six months. I think we have a couple of clips 46 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 2: here that I want to play because I know a 47 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 2: lot of the UCLA and frankly, some of the Columbia 48 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 2: related incidents may have happened after many of you tuned 49 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 2: out for the night and we're not paying attention, and 50 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 2: so I want to play. Here is ABC seven helicopter 51 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 2: reporter Chris Christy, not the former governor of New Jersey, 52 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 2: up in the air reporting on what he was seeing. 53 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: I shared this video. We'll get Clay and Buck to 54 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: share it as well. If you're wondering what he was seeing. 55 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 2: Three hours of riots on UCLA's campus, no law enforcement 56 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 2: intervention at all. Here is what he was reporting last 57 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 2: night on the ABCLA affiliate. 58 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 3: Somebody is being beaten with a stick and punches in 59 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 3: the middle of the launch. Somebody is being badly beaten 60 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 3: at the bottom of that brawl right there. 61 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: Look at that. 62 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 3: Look at that. Somebody is being dragged and beaten in 63 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 3: the front of that plot that plywood wall. Just incredible, 64 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 3: Like where are the police? Where is security? Where are 65 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 3: these people? But just are where is authority here? It 66 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 3: is something I have never covered without any sign of enforcement, 67 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 3: law enforcement security, whatsoever. This has gone now on for 68 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 3: over an hour and a half and it is absolutely 69 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 3: appalling in my estimation that we have not seen any response. 70 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 4: I mean, look, this is the March of the mouthcontents, 71 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 4: and there are so many different pieces coming together here. 72 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 4: First off, it is fascinating to watch how the Gaza 73 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 4: protesters or whatever we call manti Israel, the lunatics, but 74 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 4: the people protesting for Gaza in Colombia seem to be 75 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 4: really confused. They seem to think that they're also in 76 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 4: dire humanitarian We need. 77 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 2: To play those clips. We need to play these clips too. 78 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 2: That was going to be the next thing that I was. 79 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: Going to hit me. 80 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 4: I mean, the uclathing was interesting just because you had 81 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 4: counter protesters who came in and were sick of the 82 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 4: intimidation and the cry baby antics of not only students, 83 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 4: but remember there's a lot of professional agitators. When we 84 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 4: told you this is basically BLM three point zero, as in, 85 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 4: this is the institutional protest left, the Elynski left, That's 86 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 4: what this is. There are people who I can assure 87 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 4: you were arrested during the BLM protests as well. Who 88 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 4: are on these campuses in New York. There were at 89 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 4: Columbia and City University QUNI. There were a lot of 90 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 4: people reported by the NYPD who have nothing to do 91 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 4: with the school who are at these protests. Think about that, 92 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 4: you're not even a Columbia student and you're out there. 93 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 1: Like free, free Palestine. 94 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 4: You're in some tent on the ground with a bunch 95 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 4: of college kids. People are loons. But this was the best, 96 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 4: I mean, this was my favorite, uh my favorite moment 97 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 4: of all the videos we've seen, and there's a lot 98 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 4: of it we'll talk about a lot today. Was this 99 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 4: woman who was speaking on behalf of the protesters. They 100 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 4: had seized Hamilton Hall right at Columbia University, and and 101 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 4: she's speaking about how you know this is this is 102 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 4: a very upsetting moment for them because they're basically in 103 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 4: a humanitarian crisis and they need the school to give 104 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 4: them or to allow them or bring them food in 105 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 4: this situation. I will say I'll give David from credit 106 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 4: for this one. He tweeted out, Clay, you see that 107 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 4: the revolution will be catered? That one, which is pretty good. 108 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: That is really very very funny. 109 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 4: That is a great ed here is one of these 110 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 4: students demanding that you know, they need human rights respected 111 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 4: as well at Columbia, They need food to be brought 112 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 4: to them. Play it. 113 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 5: Obligated to provide food to people. 114 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: Who've taken over a building. 115 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 6: Well, for first of all, we're saying that they're obligated 116 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 6: to provide food to students who pay for a meal here. 117 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: But you mentioned that. 118 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 5: There was a requested that food and water be brought 119 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 5: in unless. 120 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 6: I to allow it to be brought in. I mean, well, 121 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 6: I guess it's ultimately a question of what kind of 122 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 6: community and obligation Columbia feels it has to its students. 123 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 6: Do you want students to die of dehydration and starvation 124 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 6: or get severely ill even if they disagree with you. 125 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 6: If the answer is no, then you should allow basic 126 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 6: I mean it's crazy to say because we're on an 127 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 6: ivy leage campus, but this is like basic humanitarian aid 128 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 6: we're asking for, Like could people please to have a 129 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 6: glass of water? 130 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 4: This is amazing, almost spit by drink out humanitarian aid? 131 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 4: What because she has to walk ten blocks to Zabars. 132 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 4: Think about this for a second. This is wild. That's 133 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 4: a grocery store on the upper west side. If you 134 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 4: don't know, this is wild arvation. 135 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: We also have a second part here where she gets 136 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 2: grilled even more and somebody just listen to part two 137 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 2: this and then Buck. 138 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if you did you see who that. 139 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 2: This, this student in that you are hearing talk, this 140 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 2: leader of the Columbia a revolution on behalf of Hamas 141 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: this student. 142 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: Do you know what her major is? Buck? 143 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 4: Oh, I've got it all. Oh, we're gonna I've got 144 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 4: it all here, I've got all the reass So I just. 145 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 2: This is a student, a PhD student at Columbia, who 146 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 2: is talking. 147 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: Here is a follow up. 148 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 2: I give credit to the reporters here for following up 149 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 2: say hey, you know you're kind of stage in a 150 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,239 Speaker 2: revolution and also demanding that the university rebringing you food. 151 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 2: Here's part two of this brilliant dissertation here from this 152 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 2: Columbia student. 153 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 7: But they didn't. 154 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 5: Put themselves in that very deliberately, in that situation and 155 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 5: in that position, so it seems like you're sort of saying, 156 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 5: we want to be revolutionarians, we want to take up 157 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 5: this building. Now, would you please bring us some food 158 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 5: on water? 159 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 6: Nobody's asking them to bring anything everything. We're asking them 160 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 6: to not violently stop us from bringing in basic humanitarian aid. 161 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 7: They're stopping the delivery of food. 162 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 6: We are looking for a commitment from them that they 163 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 6: will not stop it. 164 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 8: By havn't stopped it, well don't. 165 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 6: I don't know to what extent it has been attempted, 166 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 6: but we're looking for a commitment Clay. 167 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 4: She's basically saying, we need Uber Eats drivers to be 168 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 4: able to come to the campus building we have seized 169 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 4: or else you are literally killing us because we're starving 170 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 4: to death and you're blocking humanitarian aid. But you see 171 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 4: when people use the term costplay, like costume plays and 172 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 4: you're pretending to be and this was a real costplay 173 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 4: moment because they are acting like they are in Gaza 174 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 4: and they are cut off from humanitarian aid, but they're 175 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 4: doing so on an Ivy League campus in Manhattan on 176 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 4: the Upper West Side. And the notion that also they 177 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 4: would they would die of dehydration. No one shut off 178 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 4: water to the building, like I'm sure everything should have 179 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 4: I mean, that's a whole other thing, but every bathroom 180 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 4: has water. No one's dying of dehydration this place. But 181 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 4: it just shows what a bunch of pampered, narcissistic loans 182 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 4: they are. Do you want to get into some of 183 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 4: do you have? I have an excerpt from that spokeswoman's 184 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 4: bioph Okay, I want to hear the ex Let me 185 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 4: let me read what I've got for you, because you 186 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 4: guys are gonna all love this. I actually was wondering 187 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 4: what her So this is what this person you just 188 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 4: heard from? 189 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 2: Do you ever name? It's like Slutkin or something, right, 190 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 2: Slutski is the name that was reported Slutski. So that 191 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 2: is PhD student Slutsky. 192 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: Just the facts. 193 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 2: What an amazing Just the facts. Here is what she 194 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 2: is doing her PhD in. This is from her biography. 195 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 2: My dissertation is on Fantasies of limitless energy in the 196 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 2: Transatlantic Romantic Imagination from seventeen sixty to eighteen sixty. My 197 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 2: goal is to write a prehistory of metabolic rift, Marxist 198 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 2: term for the disruption of energy circuits calls by industrialization 199 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 2: under capitalism. I am particularly interested in theories of the 200 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 2: imagination and poetry as interpreted through a Marxian lens, in 201 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 2: order to update and propose an alternative to historicist ideological 202 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 2: critiques of the romantic imagination. Prior to joining Columbia, I 203 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 2: worked as a political strategist for leftists and progressive causes, 204 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 2: and remain active in the higher education labor movement. I'm 205 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 2: sorry our country has failed. When someone can get a 206 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 2: pH d in this, I'm just this is worthless. 207 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 4: When sometimes people say why do you call them communists? 208 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 4: I always just have to look them in the eyes 209 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 4: and say, because they're communists. This woman's a communist. I 210 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 4: mean she's devoted her life to vague Marxist theory and 211 00:11:55,880 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 4: education labor organization. Under any reasonable definition of the communist ideology, 212 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 4: this woman's a comy, okay, And a lot of these 213 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 4: people on this campus are comedies. That's why I call 214 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 4: them that. And what she wrote is it's amazing. It 215 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 4: doesn't mean anything, it makes no sense. It's actually gibberish. 216 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 4: But what you realize with the communists, and this is 217 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 4: true for this has been true for over one hundred years, 218 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 4: is the usage of jargon. And this kind of terminology 219 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 4: is essentially about showing people your devotion to the movement. 220 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:37,839 Speaker 4: It is you're supposed to say nonsense, because the nonsense 221 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 4: proves that you are a true believer. 222 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: Do we have more. 223 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 2: I want more from Slutsky, This Slutsky chick, I mean 224 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 2: she is really a luminous light of intellectual cast. 225 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 4: Exstructing other students. By the way, she's a ta. So 226 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 4: this Slutsky the ta is you're paying seventy grand a 227 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 4: year at a universe that admits like seven percent or 228 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 4: eleven percent or something of the people who apply. And remember, 229 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 4: you're supposed to the the the elite academic circles in 230 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 4: this country. Tell you you're supposed to be impressed by 231 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 4: Slutsky and her ilk because they went to Columbia, And 232 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 4: you're supposed to think that she is incredibly educated, probably 233 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 4: smarter than me, than Clay, than everybody listening, because she 234 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 4: went to Colombia. And this is what you get. You 235 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 4: realize this is all It's all a farce. These schools are. 236 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 2: Preposterous Transatlantic Romantic imagination from seventeen sixty to eighteen sixty 237 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 2: on poetry, and not even just poetry. 238 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 1: I mean, Slutsky is a crazy person. What an amazing name. 239 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 2: By the way, I just you couldn't come up with 240 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 2: a better name, and it couldn't have a better time 241 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 2: for me. And tell you about Hillsdale College either because 242 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 2: let me tell you also. 243 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna be joined. 244 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 2: I think I meant to mention this off the top, 245 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 2: I didn't Tulci Gabbert's gonna join us in like ten minutes. 246 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 2: She's at the top potentially of the Trump VP condition race. 247 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 2: We'll see what you think of her. And then another 248 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 2: guy who's kind of tossed his name in the VP race, 249 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 2: Vivek Ramaswami, been on the show a lot, will be 250 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 2: on with us in the third hour. But I went 251 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 2: out to Seattle a couple of weeks ago to speak 252 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 2: at Hillsdale's event in that city, and I sat next 253 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 2: to doctor Larry Arn who runs Hillsdale, and I gotta 254 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 2: be honest with you. 255 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: When I was sitting talking with him, I was thinking to. 256 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 2: Myself, I would be very happy if all three of 257 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 2: my boys went to Hillsdale, because they do something radical. 258 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 2: At Hillsdale, they actually give you an education, and they 259 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 2: teach you things that matter, things that Slutsky's not going 260 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 2: to be teaching you at Columbia. 261 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: Look, they don't use words. 262 00:14:55,800 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 2: Like they're not obsessed with diversity and inclin illusion and 263 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 2: making sure that the meritocracy is replaced. They actually want 264 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 2: your kids to work and get an education, and that 265 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 2: means that they're not all going to get a's. You know, 266 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 2: they didn't shut down at all during COVID and they 267 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 2: kept in person classes going. How many other universities can 268 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 2: even see that? Say that? And I just love everything 269 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 2: about this school and you should be getting Imprimis if 270 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 2: you're not already. It goes out to six and a 271 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 2: half million homes. You can get it sent to your 272 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 2: house for free. It will make you feel better about 273 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 2: America to see the work that they're doing. And if 274 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 2: you go to clayanbuckfor Hillsdale dot com you can get 275 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 2: a free subscription to Imprimus, no cost or obligation. They 276 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 2: produce and mail Imprimis as part of their educational mission 277 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 2: on behalf of standing up for liberty. Sign up today 278 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 2: at Clayanbuck for Hillsdale dot com. That's Clayandbuck for Hillsdale 279 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 2: dot com. We bring in now Tulsea Gabbard, former congresswoman 280 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 2: from Hawaii in the mix for potentially being vice president 281 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 2: for Donald Trump. And it's also you've got a lot 282 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 2: we'd like to hit with you. Appreciate you joining us. 283 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 2: Would you have ever believed that college campuses would be 284 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 2: taken over by left wingers and that they would be 285 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 2: preventing Jewish students, for instance, on UCLA from being able 286 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 2: to walk through different parts of campus because they were Jewish. 287 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 2: Would you have thought that you would see that in 288 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 2: your life. 289 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 7: You know, we've seen protests over generations on college campuses 290 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 7: across the country. You know, this has become increasingly so 291 00:16:56,160 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 7: as we look at the woke academics, professors who've taken 292 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 7: over so many of our universities, what I would not 293 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 7: have imagined is the blatant overt It's worse than anti 294 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 7: Semitism because they're directly threatening violence or actually engaging in violence, 295 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 7: taking over these Ivy League schools, taking over different universities 296 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 7: and saying things. I mean, when you listen to what 297 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 7: they are saying, these are not peaceful protesters calling for 298 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 7: a ceasefire. These are people who are repeating violent lines 299 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 7: coming from Hamas itself, an Islamist terrorist group. People who 300 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 7: are saying October seventh, the tragic, horrific attack that Hamas 301 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 7: waged against Israel. They say October seventh should happen ten 302 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 7: thousand times over. You have some professors at some of 303 00:17:55,160 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 7: these Ivy League universities celebrating October seventh, calling that terrort 304 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 7: to attack an awesome day. I never would have imagined 305 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 7: that here in the United States we would have young 306 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 7: Americans in our universities celebrating a radical Islamist terrorist group 307 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 7: in Hamas that is no different than al Qaeda or ISIS. 308 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 7: This is more than the problems with law and order 309 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 7: and the fact that we've got students and faculty and professors, 310 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 7: Jewish students, faculty and professors who cannot walk through these schools, 311 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 7: and other students who are not Jewish who don't feel 312 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 7: safe in their schools. Bigger than that, we have this 313 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 7: ideological warfare being waged by a radical Islamist terrorist group 314 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 7: that is taking over our university, many of our universities 315 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 7: here in the United States. This should be a major 316 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 7: wake up call to everyone in this country because what 317 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 7: these terrorists want is not only to wage these kinetic 318 00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 7: type of attacks. They are waging ideological war fair with 319 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 7: the goal being to establish Islamist governance and make us 320 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 7: all live under Sharia law. That is their end state. 321 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 4: Speaking to Tulsi Gabberts, he's got a book that just 322 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 4: came out yesterday, for Love of Country, Leave the Democrat 323 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 4: Party behind and Tulsi to that. And one of the 324 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 4: things that's getting a fair amount of attention is the 325 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 4: Biden administration's whiplash on this issue, or you know, the 326 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 4: back and forth, the both sides ism, the oh well, 327 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 4: we don't want anti Semitism, but we also don't want 328 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 4: anti Islamism or whatever. Does Biden effectively have an impossible 329 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 4: task because as far as he's concerned, he can't alienate 330 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 4: even those who are anti Semites who love Hamas, Like, 331 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 4: why is this so hard for him? 332 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 7: He liked too many of the Democrats in power today, 333 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 7: these politicians in Washington, they are terrified five of anger, 334 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 7: the pro Hamas apologist faction within the Democrats. As you 335 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 7: pointed out, their label is long. They are too back 336 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 7: the mobility of the distinction, radical ism and goals gives 337 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 7: of exterminating all full of killing's Ulsie. 338 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 2: I'm sorry to cut you off. We're having a little 339 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 2: bit of a breakup. Let's go to break right now. Alick, 340 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 2: you can you make sure that she's good to come 341 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 2: back with us. We'll get that audio cleared up, because 342 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 2: I want you guys to be able to hear exactly 343 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 2: what she's saying, because I do think it's incredibly important. 344 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 4: So let's get that cleared up. Welcome back into clay Enbuck. 345 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 4: We still have Tulsi Gabbard with us now. She's a 346 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 4: combat veteran currently serving as lieutenant colonel in the US 347 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 4: Army Reserve. New book out for Love of Country just 348 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 4: came out yesterday. Tolsi, I want to jump right back 349 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 4: into it. We just had a little bit of a 350 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 4: comms issue there. So why is it so hard for 351 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 4: Biden in this White House to have moral clarity on 352 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 4: the issue of the campus protests? 353 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 7: You know, it's very telling that President Biden himself has 354 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 7: not spoken out about these protests happening in campuses across 355 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 7: the country. And it's coming from one of two places. 356 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 7: One is he's either intellectually incapable of making the argument 357 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 7: and distinction to say, yes, I stand against anti Semitism 358 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 7: and I stand against radical Islamist terrorists like Hamas and 359 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 7: the ideology that they are propagating. Or he is terrified 360 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 7: of being called an islamophobe, which is why he is 361 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 7: being silent and cannot make that statement that I just 362 00:21:55,520 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 7: made with strength and clarity and unequivocation. We look at 363 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 7: the lack of rule of law being enforced, how basic 364 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 7: law enforcement are being called in long after these people 365 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 7: have been disrupting the peace and making these campuses unsafe 366 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 7: for others. President Biden is so terrified of losing a 367 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:24,719 Speaker 7: few votes amongst those who are pro Hamas or Hamas 368 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 7: apologists that he is failing at this very moment when 369 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 7: the country needs to hear with a clear voice from 370 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 7: the President of the United States that in this free country, 371 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 7: Jewish people everyone must be allowed to walk safely and 372 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 7: free in our society. You look again, another issue where 373 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 7: there's a clear contrast between President Trump and President Biden. 374 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 7: I heard President Trump's statement loud and clear that was 375 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 7: similar to the one that I just stated, pointing to 376 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 7: the action that should be taken, and yet President Biden 377 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 7: is completely silent at this moment. 378 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 2: Tulsi, you and I have a similar political evolution. I 379 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 2: think in many ways, I voted Democrat. You were a 380 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 2: Democrat in Congress, and then I think we both started 381 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 2: seeing all the craziness going on. 382 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: One of the. 383 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 2: Reasons why I think you would make an intriguing VP 384 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 2: choice for Trump is because you could speak to maybe 385 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 2: I think a lot of the people out there who 386 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 2: have had a similar political evolution as you and I 387 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 2: have and are out there willing to vote for someone 388 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 2: different if they acknowledge the fact that they have had 389 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 2: that political evolution. 390 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: Do you think you. 391 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 2: Could make that case as Trump's VP two independent voters 392 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 2: who might not have been willing to vote for him 393 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 2: in sixteen or twenty. And what would you say if 394 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 2: Trump came to you and said, Tulsi, I think you're 395 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 2: the right choice for VP for me, I think you're 396 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 2: still a registered in depending that would you be willing 397 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 2: to become a Republican to run and make that case? 398 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 7: A few important points you brought up their Clay. Yes, 399 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 7: I am uniquely able to connect with people across the 400 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 7: country who have walked a similar path that you and 401 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 7: I have, regardless of their political affiliation. They may still 402 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 7: be Democrats, so they may have left the Democratic Party, 403 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 7: but people who are looking for someone to say, hey, 404 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 7: come and stand with us as Americans who love our country, 405 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 7: who cherish peace and freedom, and who are deeply concerned 406 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 7: about how the Biden Harris administration is undermining some of 407 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,239 Speaker 7: the most fundamental principles that make our country what it 408 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 7: is that make this country great. I have no doubt 409 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 7: because I've been already connecting and hearing from people who 410 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 7: saw what I said when I left the Democratic Party, 411 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 7: who are starting to read my book and say, hey, 412 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 7: my gosh, this is exactly what I've been feeling and 413 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 7: what I've done and thinking. This is an essential opportunity 414 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 7: to bring people together at a time when we need 415 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 7: it in order to save our country. If President Trump 416 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 7: asked me to serve as his running mate to help 417 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 7: beat Joe Biden and Kamala Harris in this election so 418 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 7: that we can begin the important work of saving our country, 419 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 7: I would be honored to do so, and I would 420 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 7: work tirelessly to make this happen, because, like him, like you, 421 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 7: like most Americans, I love our country, and I believe 422 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,239 Speaker 7: that we can save our country, but only if we 423 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 7: take action now. 424 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 4: And Tulsie, have you and the President spoken recently? Just 425 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 4: curious what you can tell us. I know you did 426 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 4: a fundraiser with him a little while back at mar 427 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 4: A Lago. I'm wondering, one if you've at least had 428 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 4: conversations with him about how you would like to help 429 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 4: in a future Trump administration, and if not, if you 430 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 4: can't speak to that, I also wanted to know just 431 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 4: what you think about what's going on. You mentioned love 432 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 4: of country. I think it's very hard for anyone to 433 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 4: see what's going on in New York City and not 434 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 4: feel like something very fundamental about this nation is being 435 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 4: damaged when a political well the nominee effectively for a 436 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 4: political party, is being used in this way and attacked 437 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 4: in this way. 438 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 7: Yes, President Trump and I have spoken, and I won't 439 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 7: share the contents of a private conversation, but he knows, 440 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 7: he knows what motivates me. He knows my loyalty and 441 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 7: my commitment to serving our country. And I look forward 442 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 7: to and I'm hopeful of the opportunity to be able 443 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 7: to be in a position where we can not only 444 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 7: get our domestic policy back on track, but also get 445 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 7: our foreign policy in order and walk us back from 446 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 7: the brink of World War three and nuclear war. What's 447 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 7: happening here? And I'm calling you from New York City today, 448 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 7: where President Biden and his administration are engaging in this 449 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 7: law fair tying up the presumptive Republican nominee in court 450 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 7: as long as possible and wherever possible to keep him 451 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 7: off the campaign trail and drain him of time and resources. 452 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 7: Just I hope that more and more Americans are seeing 453 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 7: what they are doing for what it is and how 454 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:32,239 Speaker 7: undemocratic it is. This is undermining our democracy and our 455 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 7: ability as Americans to have a free and fair election, 456 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 7: the thing that Democrats claim to stand for, they are 457 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 7: the ones who are actually undermining our democracy. We have 458 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 7: to point out that truth and make sure that those 459 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 7: who aren't watching it as closely as you and I 460 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 7: may be understand the reality about what's going on and 461 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 7: the doubles speak and hypocrisy between what the Democrat elites 462 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 7: say and what they're actually doing, because what they're doing 463 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 7: is dangerus. 464 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 2: I agree with just about everything you're saying, Tulsea. Some 465 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 2: people will call into us, they will email us, and 466 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 2: they will say, well, given the fact that Trump is 467 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 2: seventy seven years old, I believe and he's going to 468 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 2: be if he wins in twenty twenty four, an older president, 469 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 2: the oldest president right alongside of Biden that we could 470 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 2: possibly have. You might as VP have to end up 471 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 2: being the president. I mean, that's a real concern with 472 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 2: obviously Kamala Harris. It would be the same concern with Trump, 473 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 2: even more so with Age. It's always a concern with VP. 474 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 2: What would you say to people who say she's a Democrat. 475 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 2: I'm not sure if I could trust her, given she's 476 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 2: going to be a heartbeat away from the presidency. 477 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 7: I'm not a Democrat. I've always been an independent minded person. 478 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 7: I left the Democratic Party almost two years ago. More 479 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 7: important than that, though, I would just encourage people to 480 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 7: listen to what I'm saying, not only now, but what 481 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 7: I have been saying and the things that I have 482 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 7: been working on for our country for quite some time. 483 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 7: I was no sweetheart of the Democratic Party while I 484 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 7: was in Congress, specifically because I challenged them on the 485 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 7: issues where they were undermining our country's interests, the interests 486 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 7: of the American people, and called them out when they 487 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 7: were wrong. There are going to be some issues we 488 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 7: agree on or disagree on, but fundamentally, I am committed 489 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 7: to protecting and defending the Constitution of the United States, 490 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 7: taking that oath that I swore both as a member 491 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 7: of Congress and as a soldier, where I still serve 492 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 7: to heart. This is an unwavering commitment, and my desire 493 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 7: to serve the American people is rooted in that commitment. 494 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 4: We have a link up Tulsie's book at clanbuck dot com, 495 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 4: so we want to go and get your copy today. 496 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 4: For love of country, leave the Democrat Party behind, Tulsi. 497 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 4: We always appreciate when you make time for us, and 498 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 4: we hope down the line there's some exciting news about 499 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 4: how you can continue to serve the country in a 500 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 4: new role. So thank you for being with. 501 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 7: Us, Thanks for having me on, Clay, great to talk 502 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:04,719 Speaker 7: to you. 503 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 4: Aloha Aloha. So Clay, I gotta say it would be 504 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 4: very interesting, and I think that there's a lot that 505 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 4: would come from adding her into the situation with Donald 506 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 4: Trump said, I believe that she's I mean, she's a 507 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 4: convert effectively. I don't think that she's somebody who still 508 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 4: harbors I mean, you can tell she has seen the 509 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 4: Democrat beast and does not want to be any part 510 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 4: of it anymore and has really left that party. And 511 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 4: I think to your point about if you're trying to 512 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 4: win over independence and people, you know you got right 513 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 4: wing ground pounders like me who are like I've been 514 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 4: right wing since I could spell my name. 515 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 516 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, you know, we got a lot of those 517 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 4: listening right now. Obviously, But if you want to win 518 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 4: over some of those middle of the road folks or 519 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 4: some of those people who are the persuadables, I think 520 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 4: somebody who has herself been persuaded, truly persuaded. 521 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: I see. 522 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 4: I believe in her conversion. I mean, having spoken to 523 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 4: her privately and person I don't think she's playing some 524 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 4: game now. I think she knows. Oh my gosh, the 525 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 4: Democrats are destroying the country. I got to stop this. 526 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would be curious to hear from some of 527 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 2: y'all out there who heard that interview. Eight hundred and 528 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 2: two two two eight a two. I think she's firmly 529 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 2: in the mix to be the next vice president for Trump. 530 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: I think Trump likes her. 531 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 2: My the reason I like her, and I'm not picking 532 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 2: who I think would be the best VP. I've said 533 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 2: that I think Tim Scott is going to be the pick, 534 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 2: and I still do. But the thing that I like 535 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 2: about her is, obviously you heard the question. I've had 536 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 2: a similar political evolution as her, and I think sometimes 537 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 2: when you've seen that evolution, you are more committed than 538 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 2: somebody might have been. If you've been a Republican for 539 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 2: forty years. I think she's scared of where she sees 540 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 2: the country going. 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Price picks dot Com Clay the vig Ramaswami 566 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 2: joins us. Now, I know you've been all over the 567 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 2: country helping out Donald Trump, but I just want to 568 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 2: start with this. You're in the neighborhood of Buck and 569 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 2: myself's ages. You've been on a lot of these college campuses, 570 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 2: I'm sure, on your presidential campaign, but also you were 571 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 2: on them as a student not very long ago. Would 572 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 2: you have believed that we would ever be in a 573 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 2: situation where a place like the UCLA would be banning 574 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 2: Jewish students from being able to walk through the campus, 575 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,719 Speaker 2: that they would be pulling down the United States flag 576 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 2: and replacing it with the flag of Palestine all over 577 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 2: the country. 578 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: Could you have foreseen this? The vake. 579 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 8: So not with great pleasure, no, but you could see 580 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 8: the direction this was going for a very long time, 581 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 8: and I'm not trying to claim some sort of level 582 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 8: of foresight from before, but even a few years ago, 583 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 8: when I wrote my book Woke Ink, before people really 584 00:33:59,240 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 8: knew what the. 585 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: Word was. 586 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 9: That's where this road ends. 587 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 8: And I think what many people may misunderstand even about 588 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:10,879 Speaker 8: the current situation is describing it as anti Semitic, while understandable, 589 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 8: misses the point. 590 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 9: Actually, what you're really seeing. 591 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 8: Amongst young people, and you've been seeing this for the 592 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 8: last decade or more, is a deep hunger for purpose. 593 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 9: They are starved for a cause, they are lost. 594 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 8: And when you don't believe in the American flag, you 595 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,399 Speaker 8: start pledging allegiance to a different flag instead. It could 596 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,720 Speaker 8: be the transgender flag, it could be the Palestinian flag, 597 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 8: it could be in some cases, even weirdly, the Ukraine flag. 598 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 8: And I think that that's a separate debate to be had. 599 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,399 Speaker 8: But we have this innate hunger for purpose to be 600 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 8: part of something bigger than ourselves. And when you want 601 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 8: to be part of something bigger than yourself, and you 602 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 8: no longer believe in God, you no longer believe in 603 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 8: your country, you no longer identify as a member of 604 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 8: a family, or see yourself as an individual, you start 605 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 8: believing in new kinds of secular cults instead, and this 606 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:57,359 Speaker 8: is just the latest one. 607 00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 9: And so I think that's really what's happening. It's not 608 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 9: cci to this issue. Most students who are protesting. 609 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 8: On behalf of Palestine have no idea what the heck 610 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 8: they're actually even protesting for. You have students on campuses 611 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 8: chanting infittata, which they don't realize is actually a complete 612 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,240 Speaker 8: inversion of the word they're trying to say, which is intofada, 613 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 8: their word for uprising. They don't even know what they're chanting. 614 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 8: You look at some of those video recordings, that's what 615 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 8: you hear. That's the essence of what's going on is 616 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 8: these people are lost, and I think we got to 617 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 8: see that before we actually find an actual solution, rather 618 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 8: than just playing whack a mole, which is what I 619 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,919 Speaker 8: think many in the conservative movement frankly, have been trying 620 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:33,800 Speaker 8: to do as response. 621 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 4: Hey Vivek, it's buck. You know, on these campuses, we're 622 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 4: seeing a level of madness that it is surprising to some, 623 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,760 Speaker 4: but I think for those of us who've been paying attention, 624 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 4: this is just the latest iteration of it. This is 625 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 4: the latest spasm if you will, of their lunacy. And 626 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 4: I'm reminded a little bit of the movie Aliens. Are 627 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 4: you an Aliens fan? 628 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 1: Do you remember? 629 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 4: I think it just had its like anniversary recently. It 630 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 4: was released forty fortieth anniversary. I think I saw. I 631 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 4: was in theaters. Yeah, I was a great that. It 632 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 4: was a great, great movie, James Cameron movie back in 633 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,320 Speaker 4: the day. But remember when they say we have to 634 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 4: nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to 635 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 4: be sure. No one's suggesting we knew these campuses. But 636 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 4: I just want to know, is there a way to 637 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 4: fix these things? Or do we just need to do 638 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 4: we just need to separate? Do do people that have 639 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 4: a recognition of how toxic this has become realized that 640 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 4: there's no there's no fixing Columbia University as it currently stands. 641 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 4: How do you see that? 642 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 9: Well, look, I think that actually those two things go together. 643 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 8: Is building alternative institutions is a necessary next step, and 644 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 8: some of those institutions are being built. When you think 645 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 8: about the private sector, corporate America, the financial services sector, 646 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 8: when you think about academic institutions and universities, that competition 647 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 8: does one thing. It provides an alternative where people are 648 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 8: able to go the likes of University Austin, Texas, Ralston College, Hillsdale, 649 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 8: think about even places like Ashland University here in Ohio, 650 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 8: where I spoke recently, really smart students, by the way, 651 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 8: completely not the goal to be large, national name bran institutions, 652 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 8: but just pursue excellence in local contexts. I think as 653 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 8: those competitors start to draw great students away from the 654 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 8: esteemed institutions of yesterday, the Columbias, I mean even I'm 655 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,879 Speaker 8: ashamed of the alma maters and the behaviors I've seen 656 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 8: in places like Harvard and Yale. That is going to 657 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 8: have an effect not just on providing additional choices for students, 658 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 8: but I think that's going to change the behaviors of 659 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 8: those existing institutions as well. So it's the absence of 660 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 8: competition that actually breeds this type of discontent, and so 661 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,840 Speaker 8: I do think creating new institutions is an answer. So 662 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 8: it's not just separation for the sake of separation, the 663 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 8: separation for the sake of actually bringing competition in a 664 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 8: marketplace of ideas where it has been lacking. I think 665 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 8: part of that solution, though, is we have to offer 666 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 8: an alternative vision, especially to that next generation. And this 667 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,359 Speaker 8: is where the conservative movement has fallen short. We will 668 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 8: sit here complaining about one of those religions at a time. Wokeism, 669 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 8: transgender is, climatism, Covidism. 670 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,840 Speaker 9: You can have your favoriteism. Anti Semitism now fits that list. 671 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 8: I think that each of those religions, those cults are 672 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 8: really just symptoms of that deeper void. And I think 673 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 8: we have to as a movement go back to being 674 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:21,720 Speaker 8: firm about what we actually stand for, right the individual, family, nation, 675 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 8: and God beat race, gender, sexuality and climate. If we 676 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 8: have the courage to actually stand for something. And so 677 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 8: some of this is on the other side, but some 678 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,479 Speaker 8: of this is our own problem too, is we've grown 679 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:36,240 Speaker 8: lazy as a movement just criticizing the radical Biden agenda 680 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 8: or whatever it is that we're pontificating about without actually 681 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 8: offering an alternative vision of what it means to be 682 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 8: an American, what it means to be an individual, what 683 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 8: it means to be sovereign. I think sovereignty itself, sovereignty 684 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,320 Speaker 8: at the level of the individual and the family, and 685 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 8: the nation, and being a nation under God, those are 686 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 8: foreign concepts to. 687 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 9: The conservative movement of today. 688 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 8: It's not exactly what your Republican politicians or even commentators 689 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 8: talking about to as opposed to using whatever the latest 690 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 8: trope was on social media to criticize. 691 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 9: Some flub of Biden. That's lazy and it's. 692 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,399 Speaker 8: Falling short of what we really need to be doing 693 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 8: if we want to fill that vacuum of purpose that 694 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 8: accounts for. 695 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 9: A lot of the lunacy that we're seeing. 696 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 2: Levig, you are like Buck and myself. You've been very fortunate, 697 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 2: You're building a family. Now you are obviously trying to 698 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 2: spread what I would hope is an antidote to this 699 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,319 Speaker 2: issue with a lack of purpose that exists across much 700 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 2: of American youth. What's the best way for you to 701 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 2: do that? In your mind? As we gear up for 702 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 2: the six month basically starting block here of the election 703 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,360 Speaker 2: in November, do you think VP is that play? Have 704 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 2: you talked to Trump about that? Do you think that 705 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 2: you're in the mix for that? Are there other cabinet 706 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 2: positions that to you make sense. I know you're going 707 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 2: to be working hard to get Trump elected no matter what, 708 00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 2: but on an individual basis, what's the most effect version, 709 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 2: you think of yourself, where should you go? 710 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 1: Where should you be? 711 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 8: So look, I think every person's got to look themselves 712 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,720 Speaker 8: in the mirror and say, here are my God given gifts. 713 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,720 Speaker 8: How am I going to use those to maximize impact 714 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 8: on saving our country at a moment where let's be honest, 715 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 8: if we don't get this right in the next seven years, 716 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 8: that's how it long, taw long it took to win 717 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 8: the American Revolution. I don't think we have a country left, 718 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 8: and I do think we're in one of those seventeen 719 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 8: seventy six moments today, and so Donald Trump is now 720 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 8: the George Washington figure of winning that modern American Revolution. 721 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 8: Took all of our founding fathers, many of them to 722 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 8: each wear their own different hats, to really set this 723 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 8: nation into motion. A couple things I look at, what 724 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 8: are the things we need to accomplish that we can 725 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 8: accomplish through executive power if we're successful. 726 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 9: Two mass deportations. 727 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:47,720 Speaker 1: One is the mass. 728 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 8: Deportations of millions of illegals in this country who shouldn't 729 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 8: be here, sealed the border along with it and birthright 730 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 8: citizenship and once and for all fix that immigration issue 731 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 8: in our country. And the second is the mass deportation 732 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,799 Speaker 8: of three million federal bureaucrats out of Washington, DC that 733 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,360 Speaker 8: should have never been there in the first place. Cleaning 734 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 8: up that fourth branch, that deep state that I think 735 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 8: is the source of the rot and the corruption that 736 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 8: infests every layer of government and even our culture. So 737 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 8: those are two of the things I've been most passionate 738 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,359 Speaker 8: about in my own presidential campaign. And if I'm able 739 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:18,800 Speaker 8: to play a role in doing one or both or 740 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,799 Speaker 8: the other of those things, or both of them, you know, 741 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 8: I think I'm going to do everything I can to 742 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 8: play my. 743 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 9: Role to restore the country. 744 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 8: But in terms of what position different people occupy, that 745 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,720 Speaker 8: decision belongs to President Trump. It's the beauty of actually 746 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 8: having a chief executive who's been an executive, deserves to 747 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 8: actually staff the administration and the way he runs the 748 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,360 Speaker 8: country with the people who he believes are best in 749 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 8: each position. He I've had some great conversations, and I'll 750 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,800 Speaker 8: be honored to play some hopefully significant role in reviving 751 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:44,360 Speaker 8: this country. 752 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 4: Just don't forget your friends when your Treasury secretary or. 753 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:47,840 Speaker 9: Attach to the country. 754 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,920 Speaker 1: Okay, do you think you're still in the running. 755 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:52,880 Speaker 2: Do you think you're still in the running for VP 756 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 2: or do you think someone else is going to be 757 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:56,240 Speaker 2: in that role and maybe there's. 758 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 1: Something not going to play. 759 00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,080 Speaker 8: I'm not going to out of respect to my conversation 760 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,359 Speaker 8: with President Trump and for the decisions he needs to make, 761 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 8: I'm not going to play the game of musical chairs 762 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 8: of who are speculation. What I will say is I've 763 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 8: told him this is I'm excited to serve in whatever 764 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,320 Speaker 8: capacity maximize the impact for the country. 765 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 9: We've had a great relationship. 766 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,799 Speaker 8: But I think there's a lot of people, by the way, 767 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,400 Speaker 8: in our bench that can play a lot of important roles, 768 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,440 Speaker 8: each of which we're going to need to save the country. 769 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,400 Speaker 8: And so whether that's people from the White House positions 770 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 8: to the VP to cabinet level positions, all of them 771 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:27,759 Speaker 8: are important. 772 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:29,880 Speaker 9: And I'm here to play my part. And so I 773 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 9: just think I'm optimist important to be successful. 774 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 8: We can't count our chickens before they hatch. I want 775 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 8: to say a word about this too. Is this discussion 776 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 8: presumed that there's some sort of victory that we can 777 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 8: take for granted in November. Remember just a couple of 778 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 8: years ago, we had this red wave that was supposed 779 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 8: to come. That red wave never came, and I think 780 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 8: that we're actually potentially on track to being complacent and 781 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,759 Speaker 8: seeing that same risk play out unless we actually step 782 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,440 Speaker 8: up and do things differently this time around, both in 783 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 8: terms of articulating our alternative vision and in terms of 784 00:42:58,480 --> 00:42:59,719 Speaker 8: the legwork of execution. 785 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 9: Right, A vision without execution is a hallucination. 786 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 8: That's what Einstein, That's what Thomas Edison said, and I 787 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,319 Speaker 8: think it's true every bit today in politics, as it 788 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 8: is in any other realm. You don't like early voting 789 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,239 Speaker 8: too bad. Got to play by the rules to win 790 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,400 Speaker 8: in order to change the rules to be what you 791 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,439 Speaker 8: want them to be. And so you know, I think 792 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 8: that it is important to have transition plans and what 793 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 8: comes afterwards, and I think President Trump's being very thoughtful 794 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 8: about that, and I'm hopeful to play an important role 795 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 8: in saving this country. But we're only going to get 796 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:30,000 Speaker 8: there if we actually succeed by decisive margins. And let's 797 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,239 Speaker 8: be honest, a fifty point one margin doesn't work this 798 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 8: time around. I think that, let's be very frank, a 799 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:40,359 Speaker 8: landslide minus some shenanigans is still a decisive victory, and 800 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:41,799 Speaker 8: that's what we're going to need at a moment where 801 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,800 Speaker 8: we're skating on thin ice where we have decisive majorities, 802 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,279 Speaker 8: and not just the Senate but also the House. To 803 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,480 Speaker 8: combine that with control of the White House. That's what 804 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 8: it's going to take to politically revive this country. And 805 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,839 Speaker 8: so let's not get ahead of ourselves as well to 806 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:56,879 Speaker 8: assume that there's some outcome we're planning for. 807 00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 4: The vike Ramaswami, the Veke come back talk to us 808 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 4: again soon. 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So just 848 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,440 Speaker 4: type in Clay and Buck in the search feed when 849 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,799 Speaker 4: you go to the iHeartRadio app, subscribe and then they'll 850 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,040 Speaker 4: all populate. They'll all go into your feed, day in, 851 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,640 Speaker 4: day out. It is an excellent thing to do. Also, 852 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 4: that the happy moment, I think Clay for many people 853 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,040 Speaker 4: and all this madness that has been going on is 854 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:30,360 Speaker 4: the Frat Bros. Fraternity brothers who refused at UNC Chapel 855 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:36,240 Speaker 4: Hill to let the American flag fall into the dirt, 856 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,920 Speaker 4: and they held it up and they hoisted it up. 857 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 4: And there are some very amusing memes about this going 858 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 4: around as well, but there are still it's worth noting 859 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,440 Speaker 4: there are still college students out there who some of 860 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,880 Speaker 4: them listen to this show, who very much are patriots 861 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 4: and have respect and have wisdom and love the country. 862 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 4: And they're the only reason I think that a lot 863 00:46:56,520 --> 00:47:00,279 Speaker 4: of us feel like the future might be okay. And 864 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,480 Speaker 4: you know, sometimes you got to wear some pastel shorts 865 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 4: and flip flop to say the country. I don't know 866 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 4: what else to tell you. 867 00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,560 Speaker 2: I think we have audio. Maybe we should have send 868 00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,239 Speaker 2: the table a little bit more. For those of you 869 00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:15,560 Speaker 2: who don't know how crazy this has gotten, they raised 870 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:20,880 Speaker 2: the Palestinian flag on the main quad at the University 871 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,879 Speaker 2: of North Carolina Chapel Hill. As crazy as you might 872 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,719 Speaker 2: think that it happened in New York City, or as 873 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:28,919 Speaker 2: crazy as you might think that it happened in La 874 00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,480 Speaker 2: I'm here to tell you the North Carolina tar Heels 875 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:36,640 Speaker 2: did not end their alums did not expect for a 876 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:40,320 Speaker 2: Palestinian flag to be rising. This is a battleground state. 877 00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,400 Speaker 2: This is a state that Trump won narrowly in twenty 878 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:47,360 Speaker 2: twenty twenty, and that will be close in twenty twenty four. 879 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,680 Speaker 2: And I believe we have a cut of these kids 880 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,920 Speaker 2: who saw what was happening, saw the American flag draped 881 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,479 Speaker 2: on the ground, and went over and refused to let 882 00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,520 Speaker 2: it be on the ground. And here is cut three 883 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:12,040 Speaker 2: as that was happening, So. 884 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:25,359 Speaker 1: You're getting it there. 885 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 2: These kids buck were being pelted by anti Israel protesters 886 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:38,160 Speaker 2: with water, with screaming, yelling, derisive commentary and they stepped 887 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,839 Speaker 2: into the breach there and they lifted that flag. Now 888 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,360 Speaker 2: there is a GoFundMe that is out there right now. 889 00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,799 Speaker 2: I retweeted it. If you heard that and you think 890 00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,800 Speaker 2: to yourself, that sounds kind of fun. They're raising money 891 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,080 Speaker 2: to throw the frat guys a big party at UNC 892 00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,720 Speaker 2: Chapel Hill. And if I were advising the Trump campaign, 893 00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,640 Speaker 2: I would be like, you should pick up the cost 894 00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,160 Speaker 2: of this party. And I think they had to cancel 895 00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,640 Speaker 2: an event in was it Raleigh cause of weather? If 896 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,200 Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken, somewhere in North Carolina they had a 897 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:12,080 Speaker 2: big event scheduled. If I were Trump, I'd go to 898 00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,239 Speaker 2: that North Carolina and I would bring those kids on 899 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,400 Speaker 2: the stage as a part of that rally. 900 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:18,399 Speaker 1: In North Carolina. 901 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:23,440 Speaker 10: We're here today celebrating our beautiful, wonderful fraternity brothers. That 902 00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,719 Speaker 10: flag was going to hit the dart not with the 903 00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:31,040 Speaker 10: fraternity brothers gathered together, probably the best fraternities ever right here, 904 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:32,240 Speaker 10: it would be amazing. 905 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 2: How crazy is it that if you are willing to 906 00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:41,040 Speaker 2: hold the American flag from falling on the ground, and 907 00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,359 Speaker 2: if you like the national anthem, I feel like there's 908 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,640 Speaker 2: a ninety nine percent chance that you're voting for Trump. 909 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,760 Speaker 2: Just think about I mean, where we are as a country. 910 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,160 Speaker 2: I don't think I would have said that in two 911 00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,760 Speaker 2: thousand and eight. I would whatever side of an equation 912 00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,720 Speaker 2: you wanted to be on, I don't think you could 913 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,320 Speaker 2: have said that a deck to go in this country 914 00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,160 Speaker 2: that if you like the American flag, or heck, even 915 00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,719 Speaker 2: have the American flag flying outside of your home, you 916 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:11,480 Speaker 2: almost certainly are voting for Donald Trump in six months. 917 00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 4: I think that people on the right take pride in 918 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,960 Speaker 4: just being Americans, and I think that the left in 919 00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,600 Speaker 4: this country takes pride in the belief that they are 920 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:26,200 Speaker 4: better than America. It's a very different thing. It's very 921 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:26,640 Speaker 4: well said. 922 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:30,120 Speaker 2: I think that's I think that's exactly right. And by 923 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,040 Speaker 2: the way, you can tie that in. It's why they 924 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,919 Speaker 2: also won't admit that they were wrong on everything having 925 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,160 Speaker 2: to do with COVID, because not just that they were wrong, 926 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,560 Speaker 2: it's that the people they think are dumb and stupid 927 00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:44,440 Speaker 2: and red state roots actually were right on them. 928 00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,600 Speaker 4: That's things even more for them, By the way, yeah, 929 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:48,719 Speaker 4: that the people that they try to look down on 930 00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:53,160 Speaker 4: somehow have more wisdom, more foresight, more accuracy, hmm 931 00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:03,480 Speaker 1: Two