1 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Mink 2 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: here with Garrett Downing and we are thrilled to sit 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: down with wide receiver Davontes Walker. And uh, I'm going 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: to start with a trivia question. Okay, what Baltimore Ravens 5 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: wide receiver had three touchdowns on their first three NFL receptions? 6 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 2: Toys? I feel I would have got it. 7 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 3: I did. 8 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 4: I watched the Ravens going up, okay, and I feel 9 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 4: like I remember that game. But I mean it's also 10 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 4: been everywhere obviously since, like I did it right, people 11 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 4: have been putting it everywhere. 12 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 2: The Torys Smith is like those are right right? Who 13 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 2: did it? Yep? Yep? 14 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: Now there's two. The other sues You'll forever be part 15 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: of Ravens trivia. I feel like twenty years from now, 16 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: I'll be in a bar doing Ravens trivia and I'll 17 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: just be We'll be dominating. 18 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 3: Obviously, we'll be asking, we'll be asking the next guy 19 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 3: who doesn't twenty ish now right here in the seat. 20 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: Maybe, yeah, I mean, will there be another guy twenty 21 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: years That's it's pretty crazy and it's like happened twice. 22 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 5: Yeah. 23 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: Oh, Yeah, that's pretty wild. What does it feel like 24 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: to just, you know, be in that company with Tory 25 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: and to be a part of Raven's Trivia forever now? 26 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: Probably Nah, it's. 27 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 4: A it's a great it's a great feeling. You know 28 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 4: how historic this organization already is, you know, being able 29 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 4: to be part of that and then following the footsteps 30 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 4: of a grave receiver like Toys Myth, somebody I watched 31 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 4: growing up. So it's a great feeling. 32 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 33 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 4: Then it's also good, you know, coaches trusted me, put 34 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 4: me out there and go make plays, knock it out there. 35 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 2: So it's been it's been good. 36 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: I remember I was at that game, that Tory Smith 37 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 1: game in Saint Louis when he went off. I think 38 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: it was his third NFL game, and everybody was just 39 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: kind of looking at HL like, WHOA, this is crazy, dude, 40 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: because it was a seventy four yard or forty one 41 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: yard or eighteen yarder, right, But I don't know which 42 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: one is more impressive, yours or his, because you did 43 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: it in three different games, well, two different games against 44 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: different secondaries. 45 00:01:59,280 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 2: Right. 46 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: His was like he just kept torching the same secondary 47 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: over again. I don't know what do you think which 48 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: one's more impressive of yours or tories. 49 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 4: I'm gonna give it to him. Like one, it's hard 50 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 4: to know score three touchdowns in one game. It's so 51 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm I'm gonna get that, damn for sure. 52 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: I'm such a modest guy. 53 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 5: That's the modest answer right there. 54 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 2: Like he did some job. I won't scoring three touchdowns 55 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 2: in the game. You got it in? Oh, yeah, for sure. Definitely. 56 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 3: Well, there's the old quote from Buddy Ryan talk about 57 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 3: Chris Carter where he said, all he does catch touchdown passes. 58 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 5: So have you have anyone brought that quote up to you? 59 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 2: They did? 60 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,679 Speaker 4: Somebody did either yesterday day before. I forgot who did, 61 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 4: but I have heard about it. 62 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, there you go. All right. 63 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 3: So there's all sorts of references to the start that 64 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 3: you're having here. So I just, in all seriousness, like 65 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 3: what does it mean just the way that you've opened 66 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 3: this season and how well you were playing and being 67 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 3: able to get in the end zone as much. 68 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 2: As you have. 69 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 4: I just think you mean, like I said, I can 70 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 4: be another value as said for Lamar, like I feel 71 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,119 Speaker 4: like we've done, you know, a well enough job coming 72 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 4: together and being there for him, like going up, no 73 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 4: side conversations with him, you know, let him know, ask 74 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 4: him like what he needs, like where he needs us 75 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:06,959 Speaker 4: to be, and vice versus. He asked us the same thing. 76 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 4: So we all on one page and we get out there. Then, 77 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 4: like I said, coaches trusting me to go out there, 78 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 4: you know along time zay and bait stuff like that. 79 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 4: So I think that's all what it is, just being 80 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 4: ready for that opportunity, you know, present it. 81 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 3: So so you had two touchdowns against the Browns and 82 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 3: then of course the reference here just let in case 83 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 3: viewers listeners don't recall, like you had one catch last year, 84 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 3: one touchdowns. So then first three catches again all touchdowns, 85 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 3: and that game against the Browns this year in week two, 86 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 3: when you when you get those we score two touchdowns, 87 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 3: Like what are the emotions like that you're feeling in 88 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 3: that moment, knowing that you're just building and really it's 89 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 3: kind of a coming coming out party to a certain degree. 90 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, really, just you know, letting letting everyone know that 91 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 4: you know that I'm in this league for reading you 92 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 4: know that, uh, you know, Baltimore seeing something even coming 93 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 4: out and you know, like I said, one post game 94 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 4: proven right, you know, and then me personally, like, it's 95 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 4: an amazing feeling, Like I've dreamed of playing this league 96 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 4: my whole life. 97 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 2: Like I told her. 98 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 4: I remember telling my grandmother when I was four, like 99 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 4: that's what I want to do. I want to go 100 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 4: play in the NFL. So her being able to watch 101 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 4: that and see that, you know, see her grandson live 102 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 4: live out your dream. 103 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 2: You know, it's an amazing feeling. 104 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 1: It's really cool. What were some of the coolest messages 105 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: or phone calls that you got after your your two 106 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: touchdown game against the Browns. 107 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, my high school coach, you know, even him blowing 108 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 4: up my phone. 109 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 2: He like all hype. Uh. 110 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 4: You know my grandma, like I said, like her like 111 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 4: just her telling me. She's telling me every game, but 112 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 4: just her telling me. You know, I seen you on 113 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 4: the TV screen. You know, she probably don't know what 114 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 4: she watched. Well, you know anyone you know, those messages 115 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 4: always you know, very hard felt. Then my mom, you know, 116 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 4: she was she was at work, but she said she 117 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 4: was watching everybody, you know, her coworkers, you know, they 118 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 4: were they were hype around and stuff. So I like 119 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 4: all that stuff be amazing. When I you know, when 120 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 4: I go and look at. 121 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: It, where's where's your grandmother live? 122 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 2: But she just she's back in Charlotte. 123 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: She's back. She watches every game on TV. 124 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 5: HM. 125 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. Does she hit you up like every 126 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: before every game, after all the games or what before 127 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: and after? 128 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, Sundays it's rare. I'm gonna get it before. It 129 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 4: depends on she out of church or not. But I 130 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 4: usually get a message after the game for. 131 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome. So you had another long catch here 132 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: against the Lions, and I think when we all saw 133 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: Lamar launch that pass for you deep, we were like, 134 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: is he gonna do a good four for four? Unfortunately 135 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: punched out about to the three yard line. Uh. You know, 136 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: what did it feel like to catch a pass not 137 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: in the end zone? I guess it's the question. 138 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, it felt the same to me, like shoot, 139 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 4: big play, you know, get the get the offense going, 140 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 4: and like like we said, it's closer the en zone, 141 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:42,559 Speaker 4: let's punch it in the score. 142 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: Ye. 143 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 2: So I mean it was you know, it was nothing 144 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 2: different from me. Yeah. 145 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 4: So, but I mean I was like, you know, like dang, 146 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 4: I could have maybe reached or something. When I realized 147 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 4: how close I was to the pop line. Yeah, but 148 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 4: you know, like I said, it was the same feeling, 149 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 4: you know, just letting them not can go out there 150 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 4: and make make a big play in the moment. 151 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,040 Speaker 1: I'm getting a little old, So you're gonna have to 152 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,239 Speaker 1: explain the celebration to me that you did after that catch. 153 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 1: Can you break that down for me? 154 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 4: So it really it like y'all watch basketball. Yeah, Jaylen Bronston, 155 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 4: you know, hit a three. He is still like that's pretty, 156 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 4: you know, don't look like a little like smile or 157 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 4: something like with his fingers. So I was like, maybe 158 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 4: I'll do that first down celebration. 159 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 2: I kind of just throw it out for him. 160 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: Okay, it's like it's like a three, but I mean 161 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: you're a deep ball receiver, big player receiver, so it 162 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: is kind of like you're hitting the three. 163 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we can look at it like that. Okay, 164 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 2: So y'all seen him do it last season. 165 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, that's cool. I might probably have to 166 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 4: do that first down celebration. I'm trying to get the 167 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 4: rest of the receivers to do it. I don't think 168 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 4: they messing with it, but you know, I probably, I'll 169 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 4: probably continue with it. 170 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 3: I think it's it's been pretty cool to watch you 171 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 3: these last two years because you had to be a 172 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 3: little bit patient. 173 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 2: You know. 174 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 3: There's just a lot of talent in the receiver room, 175 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 3: a lot of talent on this offense. One ball to 176 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 3: go around, and it's like everyone's always wondering who's going 177 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 3: to be the guy this week because there could be 178 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 3: so many different players that can make an impact on 179 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 3: this offense. How have you handled that the patient's aspect 180 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 3: and waiting for your opportunity and then when you get 181 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 3: the opportunity, making the most of. 182 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 4: It, right, just preparing like you know, like I'm going 183 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 4: out there first, you know, keeping my routine or you 184 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 4: know being in and play with being died, and because 185 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 4: I mean you still have to know everything, you know, 186 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 4: Like like I said, like they can throw you out 187 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 4: there at any time. So being able to go out 188 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 4: there and execute what we're trying to do, you know, 189 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 4: they look at stuff like that. And then also like 190 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 4: learning from those guys like Zay bay d hob Tie 191 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 4: then like taking a little thing from baby that I 192 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 4: see them doing, trying to add it to my bag. 193 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 4: You know, evolved my game and being a complete receiver. 194 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 4: So I think, like you know, they've they've helped me tremendously. 195 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 4: Then you know this organization has done a good job 196 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 4: and embracing like competition and competing. So knowing I'm in 197 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 4: a room full of guys, like that's like you know, 198 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 4: like like I said, I'm here for a reason too, 199 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 4: Like you know, I'm up there on that pedestal with 200 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 4: these guys too. So and then just having a room 201 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 4: like that, like I feel, like I said in one 202 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 4: of the interviews the other day, like I feel like 203 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 4: we have the dream receiver room, like everything you will 204 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 4: want as a receiver room, any skill set, like we 205 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 4: have a love it. 206 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with everyone kind of does something a 207 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 3: little bit different too, which I think is speaking to 208 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 3: the point that you're making, Like there's there's lots of 209 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 3: different I mean skill levels and experience and all that, 210 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 3: but everyone kind of just brings a different skill set 211 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 3: to the table. I'm curious, Like this off season for you, 212 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 3: I was I would be watching OTA's mini camp and 213 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 3: then of course into training camp, and like you were 214 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 3: a guy that consistently jumped out there at practice, like 215 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 3: you were a guy that everybody was talking about he's 216 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 3: standing out, he's making plays, and you just consistently did 217 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 3: that over the course of the off season into training camp. 218 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,839 Speaker 3: How big was it for you to put together a 219 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 3: really good off season and to show everybody like, hey, 220 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 3: I'm here too, don't forget about me in this mix. 221 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that you know what I got out of that? 222 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 4: Like that was my mindset going into the off season, 223 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 4: Like even you know, that's howart breaking as was. We 224 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 4: finished Buffalo, like I went straight home, started training. I 225 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 4: probably took nobody three four days off, went home talking, 226 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 4: told my trainer, I work with Hakeem Nicks out home 227 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,719 Speaker 4: and former NFL players. Okay, So I told him what 228 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 4: I was trying to accomplish, what I was trying to do, 229 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 4: and then you know, we hit like we hit it 230 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 4: right away. So I went into told him I wanted 231 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 4: to be a complete receiver. I wanted, you know, to 232 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 4: get comfortable with the route tree. So by the time 233 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 4: we hit the OTA training camp, like you know, like 234 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 4: I'm able to go out there, you know and produced. 235 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 4: So that was my mindset going tall season. I feel 236 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 4: like that's why the outcome of training camp OTA and 237 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 4: all that was what it. 238 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 1: Was I was curious about what you did this offseason, 239 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: so working with the key Nix? Was that also in 240 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: North Carolina or where? 241 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 2: Well? 242 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 4: North hit me about like two and a half three 243 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 4: years ago. I want you to, you know, come trying 244 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 4: with me. You know, told him like, let's lock in. 245 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 4: Then you know we hit the ground run with that. 246 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: So you've been training with him since then for a while, okay, 247 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: and so so can you take me through like what 248 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: your routine was like during the off season with him? 249 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I get up six seven, know, you breakfast 250 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 4: and then you know, we straight to the field. You know, 251 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 4: we do our warm up footwork stuff, then we straight 252 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 4: straighten the routes. We will have a quarterback some time, 253 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 4: but it was a straight route tree probably go through 254 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 4: every route, redzon, middle of the field, backed up, like 255 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 4: we tried to hit on everything and get give me 256 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 4: as much as comfortable as possible, you know, running every 257 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 4: route from every spot, whether it was X, F ZE wherever. 258 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 4: So I can be you know, versatile whenever they need 259 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 4: me in wherever they need me in his offense. 260 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 2: So it was my every day. 261 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: So interesting. Were there any other like big time ride 262 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: receivers NFL Rogers with. 263 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 2: Him or Brown he plays for Jacksonville. Now yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 264 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 2: it was just me and him. 265 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: So I'm interested that he hit you up he wanted 266 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 1: to train you. What was it the other way around? 267 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 1: How does that often happen or what? 268 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 4: Noah, I don't think it does, Like I mean knowing 269 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 4: it's just me, me and Diami with him, like it 270 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 4: just it told me like you know how he operates, 271 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 4: how he works, and you know, he just he just 272 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,839 Speaker 4: knows grind so and that's the type of guys I 273 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 4: like to be with, you know, not all the limelight 274 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 4: and stuff. 275 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 2: You just just work. 276 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: And was it did he explain to you how he 277 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: came to find you? Like what was it about you 278 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: that he saw where he was like I want to 279 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: work with that guy. 280 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, he just seen you know, like my work at 281 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 4: it and then also like my process at you know, Carolin, 282 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 4: my college process obviously, like just seeing you know how 283 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 4: Zenion I was and then like how I wasn't like 284 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 4: scared to work and stuff like to get to what 285 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 4: I get to where I wanted to be. 286 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 2: So you know, he broke all that down to me. 287 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 3: Got so you mentioned that you wanted to just have 288 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 3: the full route tree down. 289 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:25,719 Speaker 5: Did you feel like coming out of your. 290 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 3: Rookie year, like obviously you showed ability, but you just 291 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 3: needed to add like more elements to your to your 292 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 3: route running. Like what was your thought process as the 293 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 3: season ended in terms of how you needed to attack 294 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 3: your game? 295 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? So O like what you mean by that? 296 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 3: Like basically did you feel like, Okay, it was good start, 297 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 3: but I need to I need to add elements. 298 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: To adding to your route tree. 299 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 4: Because I felt I feel like I could do I 300 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 4: had the you know, ability to do everything, but it 301 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 4: was like, you know, probably lack of experience. Like college, 302 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 4: I didn't run full route tree then like last year 303 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 4: I wasn't running you know that. I mean like when 304 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 4: I got hurt up my first time seeing like being 305 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 4: having to be able to run the route so, you know, 306 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 4: seeing how detailed guys like Bait and they are, you know, 307 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 4: in their route runners, it was like, you know, I 308 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 4: want to want to be like that, so you know, 309 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 4: honing in on like that top of the route, getting 310 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 4: out of you know, driving out of those breaks, you know, 311 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 4: releasing off the ball and stuff like that, and being 312 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 4: a little more physical. That was you know, that was 313 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 4: my thought process like going into the. 314 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 3: I remember talking to you last year going into the 315 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 3: season and you talked about how in college it was 316 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 3: like they just had you run deep. You were like, 317 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 3: I'm the fastest guy in the field. They're just like, 318 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 3: all right, just go deep and we're gonna throw it 319 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 3: to you and see if you can make some big 320 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 3: plays and and so like was that that was kind 321 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 3: of a process of adding to the equation that like 322 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 3: I'm not just a deep ball receiver. 323 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 324 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 4: And then it's also you know, taking that mindset and 325 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 4: putting it to like those other routes. So as far 326 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 4: as like coming out of my break, like knowing that 327 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 4: you know, I'm a fast guy, Like I'm gonna run 328 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 4: away from a lot of those guys. So being able 329 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 4: to like limit my footsteps at the top and then 330 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 4: driving out of it, and like I said, like I'm 331 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 4: gonna run away for most those guys. 332 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 2: So adding that to it, like taking my. 333 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 4: Speed and then you know, evolving and putting it towards 334 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 4: you know a lot of those other routes. 335 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 2: Like it's really helped me out. 336 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: That's what I noticed in your two touchdowns against the 337 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: Browns was when you got a step on both those 338 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: guys and they don't have to be deep. You know, 339 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: your second touchdown catch was a long catch, but your 340 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: first one was a shallow crosser in the back of 341 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: the end zone. But it was like once you got 342 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: a step on that guy, you were just running away 343 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: from h And So, I don't know if you've seen 344 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: this stat yet, but among all NFL receivers with at 345 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: least three targets so far, you have the highest average 346 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: speed on your routes run this season, seventeen point two 347 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: seven miles. 348 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 2: You saw that, Yeah, I ran across it this morning, 349 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 2: is okay. 350 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: So, I mean that's that's pretty darn impressive. How much 351 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: of that do you feel like is natural born speed 352 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: and how much of it is this route running kind 353 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: of perfection or crafting that you've done this offseason. 354 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 4: Uh, I feel like about half and half now, Like 355 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 4: you know, I feel like probably a little more guy given, 356 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 4: but also you know, just like know working that craft, 357 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 4: you know, like that all that work I put in 358 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 4: just get to you know, you know, something like that. 359 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 2: And also give a lot of credit to like coach p. 360 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 4: And Glu, like you know, those little conversations with them 361 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 4: and them telling me, you know, like I said, like 362 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 4: you a fast guy, Like like I said, you putting 363 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 4: putting that ability into like the details of the rod runner, 364 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 4: Like you know, you're gonna be scary in this league. 365 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 4: So you know, putting all that together and then seeing 366 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 4: the outcome like those routes in the back end zone 367 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 4: of that corner route, like you know, seeing it all 368 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 4: come together. 369 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 2: Right. 370 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: There are a lot of fast cornerbacks in this league. Yeah, 371 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: do you feel like you can run away from any 372 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: of them? 373 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, for sure. 374 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 4: Like I mean, it's definitely harder in the league, which 375 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 4: what I've seen that was, you know, my thing on 376 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 4: why I wanted to hone end, you know, on the 377 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 4: route running being better. 378 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 2: But I think I can. 379 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 5: One of the questions we always get is like who's 380 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 5: the fastest guy on the team? 381 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 3: And you are in that mix, like you Wiggins, uh 382 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 3: Zay is in the mix. Mar's never been timed, Lamar's 383 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 3: never He's always someone that you mentioned. But Lamar actually 384 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 3: gives it to other guys. He says, like, I don't race, 385 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 3: I'm not that guy. So if we were just lining 386 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 3: everybody up and have them race, where would you fall 387 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 3: on that? 388 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 5: How far are we going let's say forty yard dash. 389 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 5: I feel like. 390 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 4: I'm I'm gonna get out the nate. Oh if you 391 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 4: said anything over like fifty sixty is me. 392 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 3: Okay, you're gonna pull away? Okay, yeah, okay, all right. 393 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 3: I like, well, they had the fastest forty. I think 394 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 3: at the combine he was four to eight. I think 395 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 3: you were four. 396 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: Three six, that's correct. I feel like, like, did you 397 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: feel like you were going to run a faster forty 398 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: at the comb. 399 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 4: Yea, And I feel like I should have. It was 400 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 4: my start, and it was it was crazy. My draft 401 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 4: down there by Rideaus. He was like, like your start, 402 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 4: Like with your start, it's like most guys would run 403 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 4: like a four seven eight, but it's like your back end, 404 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 4: it's like crazy, like he's never seen it before. 405 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: Interesting. 406 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 2: So I just think if I had a better start, 407 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 2: I definitely could have ran. 408 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 5: Did you slip them out of the gate or what? 409 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 2: On the first one? Yeah? 410 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 4: The second one was I was a pride and run 411 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 4: fast on the second one. But the second one was 412 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 4: like the probably the best start I ever had. Okay, 413 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 4: but yeah, interesting. 414 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: So it's with you you really feel like it's almost 415 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: like your fifth gear. It's like once you get to 416 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: fifth gear, it's late ten. 417 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 4: Not feel like people see like when a ball is 418 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 4: in air, like you know, I just feel like the ball. 419 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 2: I just naturally just like right, like I gotta gotta 420 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 2: get it. 421 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: So interesting. I want to go back to something that 422 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: we talked about before, which is patients and the patients 423 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: you've had to you've had to or that's been required 424 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: here I should say because of all the weapons. But 425 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: this is really something over your career, I mean your 426 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: college career. Right, So for listeners who don't know, you 427 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: start in North Carolina Central, but your freshman year was 428 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: canceled because of COVID, So then you went to Kent State. 429 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: You had a big second season there, nearly a thousand 430 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: receiving yards, eleven touchdowns. Then you transferred to North Carolina, 431 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: but pause and the NCAA descermines that you were a 432 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: two time transfer and denied your eligibility for twenty twenty three. 433 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: So you had to sit out the first four games 434 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: of that season, and it was a whole big thing 435 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: whether you were going to be eligible or whatnot. And 436 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: you kept practicing with the team like you could have 437 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: just gone home or whatever. Right, But you were like, 438 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: I'm going to stay with the program, I'm going to practice, 439 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: do all that even though I can't play in the games. 440 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: How much did that build your patience that whole process 441 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 1: and kind of prepare you for what you were going 442 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: to see in the NFL? 443 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, you pretty much like hit it on the head, 444 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 4: like you know, last year, like it was like I 445 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 4: was in this spot before, like I've had the way 446 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 4: you know, then going back to Carolina, just sawing like 447 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 4: how much of a good teammate I'm being beat there 448 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 4: for those guys like you know, and it was people 449 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 4: on that team going through worse than I was. So 450 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 4: it was like, you know, just sawing it wasn't about me, 451 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 4: Like I'm still here for y'all and you know, I'm 452 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 4: still practice trained just in case. You know, you never 453 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 4: never know which it ended up happening, right, But you know, 454 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 4: fast forward to last year, like I said, like I've 455 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 4: been in that spot before, and then you know, just 456 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 4: you know, being able to learn off of guys like 457 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 4: you know, Newon Nelson was here to learn off of him, 458 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 4: and then like I said, watching guys like Bait, you know, 459 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 4: and I feel like that helped me, you know, to 460 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 4: you know, be where I am. 461 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: Now, are you a naturally patient person? 462 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? 463 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: I am in your everyday life, okay, because I would 464 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: think like somebody who had four years old you said, 465 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: said I want to go to the NFL that also 466 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 1: requires face years ago until you were gonna get there. 467 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: So like, how how have you been so patient over 468 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: your life? 469 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? 470 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 4: So you know my family, no, I missed my grandma 471 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 4: a church, like a big church family, you know, big 472 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 4: no Christians, so you know, reading no scriptures and like 473 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 4: a lot of those scriptures talk about patients. 474 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 2: You know. 475 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 4: You know, God is you know, preparing you for you know, 476 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 4: whatever He's preparing you for. And then like you know, 477 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 4: he said He's gonna walk with you, but like he 478 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 4: ain't gonna really ain't gonna do it for you. So 479 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 4: it's like, you know, just meet him halfway, you know, 480 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 4: just staying down, doing grinding, you know, you know, doing 481 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 4: doing work. 482 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 2: So then you know he gonna you know, it's just 483 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 2: like he gonna have life for you. 484 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 3: And do you do you feel like you lean on 485 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 3: your faith? You know, to this day is a you 486 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 3: going through the set of hell journey? 487 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 4: Yes, I feel like I've you know, come closer with it, 488 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 4: you know where I am now? 489 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: Nice you talk, you talk about all these receivers in 490 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: your room, you know Jay Flowers or shab and DeAndre Hopkins, 491 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: Tallen Wallas. Can you take me and we talked about 492 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: how they're all different guys. Can you take me guy 493 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: by guy and tell me, like something that you've taken 494 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: from them or some piece of advice, like because they 495 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: all play the game differently, so like what what have 496 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: you taken from from Zay? What piece of advice or 497 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: something you've taken from him? 498 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, is like you know, like his like intensity, you know, 499 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 4: like in and out of his breaks and like how 500 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 4: he's able to just snap down get out of her quick. 501 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 4: Then Bates a guy you know he plays like with 502 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 4: a lot of patients, you know, setting up his routes, 503 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 4: you know, playing with like different tempos. And then de 504 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 4: Hopp is the guy, like bigger physical guy, you know, 505 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 4: Seaball Gearball. 506 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 2: Is his when it's in the area. 507 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 4: Then Talent's you know a guy like you know, he's 508 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 4: like like the grimy guy, like you know he's watching 509 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 4: one of them contested catch got ball in there, but 510 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,959 Speaker 4: he also you know, getting there dig somebody out, you know, 511 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 4: just being more physical. Yeah, I feel like, you know, 512 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 4: I've took a piece from like each and every one 513 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 4: of those guys. 514 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 2: That's awesome. 515 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 1: How would you describe your own game at this point 516 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: in year two? 517 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 4: At this point, I say, now, like, you know, when 518 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 4: I'm going back towards my film, like smooth, like being 519 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 4: able to you know, like maintain that speed, you know, 520 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 4: break like you know those Chris Angeles, Like I maintained 521 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 4: that same speed. So I just say, like, my game's 522 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 4: pretty pretty smooth this point. 523 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 5: I agree watching it. 524 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 3: What's it like being in the same room as DeAndre Hopkins? 525 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 3: I think I think you were twelve when he came 526 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 3: into the league. Shade at him, you know, as the 527 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 3: older guy in the room. I know you guys probably 528 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 3: give a hard time about that, But what's it like 529 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 3: being in the same room with him? 530 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 4: Man, It's crazy. It's it's a dream come truy, you know, 531 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 4: like he was in that era. 532 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 2: Guys. You know, I loved watching like him, the A. J. 533 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 4: Greens, Calvin Johnson's, Andrew Johnson's like, you know he when 534 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 4: I seen we signed him, it's like, dang, like it's 535 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 4: somebody I watched it even before I was twelve, Like 536 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 4: I was watching he. 537 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 2: Was at Clemson. 538 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 4: You know, Clinton's pretty close to Charlotte, so I was 539 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 4: pretty familiar with with him, so, you know, and it 540 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 4: didn't really hit me until, like I look to my right, 541 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 4: were coming out tongue to the Bills game. 542 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 2: He's like, dang, Like DeAndre Hockey is my teammate. That's crazy. 543 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 4: You know, I've I've enjoyed you know, being alongside of 544 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 4: him since he's been then you know, he's he's been 545 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 4: there for me since since he's got her. 546 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, he seems like he's brought an edge, Like I mean, 547 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 3: his it's hard to tell, like how much he trash 548 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 3: talks or not on the field. 549 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 5: I think he was doing a little bit. 550 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 1: Too smoled somebody. 551 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, but like he does a little bit. But like 552 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 3: it seems just like he's brought an edge like that. 553 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 3: That the mentality you mentioned, the sea ball get ball mentality, 554 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 3: How was that kind of rubs off on everybody? 555 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 4: Man, It's just like, you know, you see him do it, 556 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 4: it's like and then you think about like everything, he's 557 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 4: a Compton the league, and it's like, you know, we're 558 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 4: trying to get to that. 559 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 2: So I think it also brings that. 560 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 4: You know, competitive you know nature we have in our 561 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 4: room and almost our team, like you know, we all 562 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 4: we all trying. 563 00:21:58,320 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 2: We gotta we gotta be like that. So I feel 564 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 2: like he is that bar is up there. 565 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 4: He's when he since he's been there, like he's put 566 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 4: that bar out there, and it's like, you know, like 567 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 4: that's where we're striving to be at. And I feel 568 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 4: like that's why we've had so much success in these 569 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 4: first three weeks in the passing game because of you 570 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 4: know what he's brought. 571 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, how important has it been kind of building your 572 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: relationship with Lamar and growing that relationship, because that was 573 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: one thing I noticed this summer was it seemed like 574 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: the more plays that you made, the more Lamar also 575 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: invested in you and saying like all right, we didn't 576 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: make this play, and I'm going to walk down the 577 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: field and I'm going to walk all the way back 578 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 1: with the Vintas and we're going to talk through this together. 579 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: It felt like that relationship kind of hit another level. 580 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, it just goes back while I said, you know, 581 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 4: just being you know, making him as kumble as possible 582 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 4: out there, you know, the quarterback they have on a 583 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 4: hard out in the field, so you know it's on 584 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 4: us to you know, be a farm you know, whenever 585 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 4: he needs to. So you know, just going up to him, 586 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 4: you know, seeing what he's thinking, how he's thinking, so 587 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,479 Speaker 4: we can have that you know chemistry out there days 588 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 4: like you know, just asking those little small questions or 589 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 4: do you need me here here, like going me to 590 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 4: run this route like this, and then vice versa. You know, 591 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 4: he's asking those questions like do you want to hear 592 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 4: you're gonna take your angle here or whatnot. Just being 593 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 4: on the same page, you know, so you know, we 594 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 4: ain't out there playing like slobby football or you know, 595 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,360 Speaker 4: he and he's able to you know, trust me when 596 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 4: I'm out there, just like he does the other guys. 597 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 3: I'm curious how Lamar has kind of helped set a 598 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 3: tone this week going into a big game. Obviously you 599 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 3: and she's sposed one or two, you're coming off a 600 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 3: tough loss Monday night football. Just how how he has 601 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 3: helped set the tone and what the mentality is going 602 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 3: into this game. 603 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like you know his mentalities. 604 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 4: You know what happened Monday happen you know, flush it 605 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 4: you know, we gotta we got a big game this week. 606 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 4: You know, chief is opponent that we respect very well, 607 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 4: so he you know, he knows what we're up against. 608 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 4: You know, he's probably played this team the most. So 609 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 4: and then you know, Lamar is like the most competitive 610 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 4: person in that locker room. Like you know, he don't 611 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 4: let nothing. You know, I just like what I've seen 612 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 4: about him i've been here, Like nothing like really moves him, 613 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 4: you know, nothing texts him out of his game, Like 614 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 4: he's pretty even killed everything. So that's somebody you know, 615 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 4: I know, like I like, I trust to go out there, 616 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 4: you know, lead us. So you know, I just feel 617 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 4: like he's had that mentality since I've been here. So 618 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 4: you know, I have no worries about Sunday. 619 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: So yeah, it is last one for me. Is there 620 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: any kind of extra motivation when you're on the field 621 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: with with Xavier Worthy the Chiefs, both secondary receivers, both 622 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: very fast guys, any kind of extra motivation? Like, all right, 623 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 1: who's gonna make the bigger play here among the two 624 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: of us? 625 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, most definitely. And I've always been like that. 626 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 4: It's like all right, you know, you know, I got 627 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 4: a lot of respect for his game. You know, first 628 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 4: round guy did it all in college, you know, making 629 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 4: plays over there. So but you know, see another guy 630 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 4: out there, it's like, you know, let me go out here, 631 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 4: try to you know, I'll do him make a play 632 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 4: for he does so. But nah, it's definitely you know 633 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 4: when I see other people who was in my draft class, like, 634 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 4: it's definitely a little motivation there, you know. 635 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 2: So it's gonna be real fun. 636 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: Right awesome, Well, can't wait for it? About say, man, 637 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: how about we go get another touchdown here? We can 638 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: start right start another streak. 639 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 5: So I appreciate you. 640 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 3: Thanks man, you're listening to the Lage Podcast. We are 641 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 3: coming to you from the Seat Geekstudio. We want to 642 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 3: mention our partners at Draft King sports Book. They are 643 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 3: an official sports betting partner of the Baltimore Ravens Draft 644 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,719 Speaker 3: King sports Book. The Crown is yours. 645 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 5: Thank you to Tess. 646 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 2: Uh. 647 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 3: He's he's I think easy got to root for his 648 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 3: story when he was in college generated a lot of 649 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 3: buzz nationally. And uh, of course he ultimately ended up 650 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 3: being able to play and had a great season in 651 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 3: North Carolina. And and I think that he's got a 652 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 3: lot of talent and he's showing it and like he's 653 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 3: impressed me because all throughout his off season in training camp, 654 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 3: I'm like, Tess looks great, but it's just it's hard 655 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 3: to know where the snaps are going to come because 656 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 3: the Ravens have a really good receiver room, as we 657 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 3: talk to him about, but even in the midst of 658 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 3: that crowded group, he's he's risen above I think what 659 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 3: a lot of people expected from him, and I give 660 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 3: him a lot of credit for carving out a nice 661 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 3: role for himself. 662 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 1: I think part of the reason why the Ravens offense 663 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 1: has been so good through the first three weeks is 664 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: not only are the Stars playing well, you know lamar 665 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: Ze right, those guys now, Derek obviously the fumbles have 666 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 1: been tough, but he's you know, ran the ball extremely 667 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 1: well against the Buffalo Bills. Been a little tough for 668 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 1: the past two games. But not only because of the Stars, 669 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: but it's because some of these role players like a 670 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 1: Devontes Walker, I mean, DeAndre Hopkins is a star but 671 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: not getting like a ton of snaps. Yeah, Tylan Wallace, 672 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: like those guys are also playing really well. In terms 673 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: of the Ravens skill position guys, like they're making the 674 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: most of their opportunities. Yeah, and they're not a ton 675 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 1: of opportunities, but they're getting in the end zone. 676 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 5: Yeah. 677 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 3: I mean Teszan Hopkins are the perfect examples of that. Like, 678 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 3: those guys are basically sharing the wide receiver three role 679 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 3: and so neither of them are getting a ton of snaps, 680 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 3: but when they get on the field, they're basically like, Okay, 681 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 3: every time it could combine it, one of those guys 682 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 3: is gonna score a touchdown every three players are on 683 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 3: the field. 684 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 1: Crazy combined it, and those guys have four touchdowns in 685 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,360 Speaker 1: three games. Four touchdowns and three games. 686 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 3: It's pretty darn good. Yeah, and then Ted has almost 687 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 3: got another one exactly and. 688 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: Almost had another one should have been ruled a touchdown. 689 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: So it's it's crazy the production that when you talk about, Okay, 690 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: look at the Ravens number three wide receiver basically, what's that? 691 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 1: What do those numbers look like? Yeah, it's pretty crazy. 692 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's It's been impressive start for for those guys. 693 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 3: So I'm encouraged by that, and I just think it 694 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 3: really budes well for Tz and his role in this 695 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,439 Speaker 3: offense this year and long term. Like I think that 696 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 3: like he's shown, he's showing that he's more than just 697 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 3: a guy that can can run fast and run deep. 698 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,719 Speaker 3: Like he that's and and he knew like that was 699 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 3: I thought what stood out to be and talking with him, 700 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 3: like he knew that was a perception that of him, 701 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 3: like you're just a fast guy that could run deep. 702 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 3: And so then what he do He went to work 703 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 3: this offseason. I'm becoming a complete wide receiver. And the 704 00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 3: results speak for themselves. 705 00:27:59,200 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 2: Yep, yep. 706 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,199 Speaker 1: You know, another little trivia question for you. 707 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 5: How many how many trivia questions you got here? 708 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 1: I'm just I've got them all here? You got the rollodex? 709 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 3: Uh? 710 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: How did the Ravens get the pick that they used 711 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 1: to draft davontees. 712 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 5: Walker fourth round pick not compick or not no no compic. 713 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: That was acquired in the trade of Morgan Moses. Oh okay, 714 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 1: that's how they got that pick, which you know, I 715 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: remember at the time, everybody's like, man, how do we 716 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,199 Speaker 1: trade away Morgan Moses? Like he's so good? You know, 717 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: now he didn't particularly have a great year last year 718 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 1: for the Jets. The Ravens got davontees Walker in return. Yeah, 719 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: as of right now, it's looking like a pretty good trade. 720 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then of course they drafted ro Rosegarten exactly 721 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 3: exactly and placed him in the lineup. So yeah, that's 722 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 3: that's part of that, is that dance that Eric's costs 723 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 3: in the front office play in terms of acquiring picks 724 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 3: and making those types of moves. 725 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: That's just like file that one away when when like 726 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: sometime in the future, you know, there's a trade to 727 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: get a pick and you're like, what are we doing 728 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: getting a Day three pick for that guy? Well, it 729 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: turned into devontees Walker, who, let's we'll see you know, 730 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: Zay Flowers hopefully will be here for a very long time. 731 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: You know, I'm sure there'll be a lot of talks 732 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: in the years to come about extensions for him. Rashaan 733 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: Bateman's locked in here for a long time. Like DeAndre 734 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,719 Speaker 1: Hopkins is on a one year deal. Devontees Walker is 735 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: he the long term kind of up number three, you 736 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: know guy in this wide receiver course, certainly could be. Yeah, 737 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: and that would be a big role for him. 738 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 3: Well, before the Ravens worry about long term deals, they're 739 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 3: worried about this Sunday against the Kansas City Chiefs here. 740 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 3: This is a big game. Obviously, we do want to 741 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 3: break that down in a little bit more detail. Both 742 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 3: these teams are coming into it. It's it's crazy to 743 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 3: think that one of these teams is leaving this game 744 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 3: at one and three. 745 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, wild. 746 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 3: These are two perennial playoff teams. I've obviously met in 747 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 3: the postseason, They've met in the regular season. There's some 748 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 3: history here between these two teams, and it's a massive 749 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 3: game as both these teams are are looking to write 750 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 3: the ship a little bit early in the season. 751 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I think that, you know, for both these teams, 752 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: they're coming into this one a little bit frustrated. You know, 753 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: the Ravens are coming off a loss. The Chiefs just 754 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: got their first win of the year. But I don't 755 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: think really a lot of that matters, to be honest, 756 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: when these two two teams square off, like they know 757 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: each other very well because they've played a lot over 758 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,959 Speaker 1: the years, and quite frankly, the Ravens feel like they 759 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: they want to get some payback. You know, past six games, 760 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: the Chiefs have won five of them. Lamar Jackson's never 761 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: beaten Patrick Mahomes in Kansas City last year week one 762 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: game to open the NFL season in Kansas City in 763 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: which the Ravens lost by a toe and so I 764 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: think that there's a lot of this one. This one's 765 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: been circled on the calendar for a while, obviously since 766 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: the schedule came out for the Ravens, but considering the 767 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: increased stakes of your going into it one and two, huge, 768 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: huge game. 769 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting because it feels like last year was 770 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 3: the revenge game angle. 771 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 5: Coming off the AFC Championship going to this one. 772 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 3: But then Buffalo kind of took the revenge game storyline 773 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 3: early in this season, and so this one almost like 774 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 3: hard to believe it, but to some degree, kind of 775 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 3: flies under the radar in that sense because there was 776 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 3: just so much built up. The Ravens have had a 777 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 3: tough start to this season. I'm not just talking about 778 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 3: the outcomes. I'm talking about the opponents. I mean, these 779 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 3: are difficult opponents. You opened the season in Buffalo. Now 780 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 3: you got to go to Kansas City play a Monday 781 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 3: night game against Detroit, who might be you know, they're 782 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 3: one of the best teams in the NFC. So it's 783 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 3: a tough stretch to open the season and to be honest, like, 784 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 3: I feel like going into this game, the history stuff, 785 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 3: just the feeling that I have like takes more of 786 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,719 Speaker 3: a back seat compared to most times the Ravens had 787 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 3: played the Chiefs in past years, because it's just like this. 788 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 5: Team is one and two and they just got to 789 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 5: get back on. 790 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 3: Track, and so like the history stuff is there, like 791 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 3: there's no doubt about that, but to me, it feels 792 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 3: less significant than if I compare it to a year 793 00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 3: ago when these two teams face off in there. 794 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely absolutely, and it's a big game for the 795 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: Ravens defense. Right now, ranked thirty second in the league, 796 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: you're at the bottom. And unfortunately this is a similar 797 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: there's the same spot that the Ravens were in last 798 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: year at this time. And of course you have to 799 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: take into context, all Right, the Ravens have faced some 800 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: pretty darn good offenses so far. You know, the Buffalo 801 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: Bills have one of the best offenses in the league. Obviously, 802 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: we we saw what the Lions can do on Monday 803 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: Night Football. So the Chiefs are no slouch offensively obviously 804 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: with Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes, Kelsey all those guys. Now, 805 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: they haven't gotten off to a super fast start. They're 806 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: seventeenth in the league, and I think the Chiefs have 807 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: kind of been seemingly trying to find their way. They 808 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: haven't been running the ball well to again the season 809 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: at all and drop some mistakes things like that. It 810 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: hasn't been smooth sailing for the Chiefs. But they're gonna 811 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: be looking for a get right game here against this 812 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: Baltimore defense. 813 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, but both of these the Ravens defense is looking 814 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 3: for a get right opportunity after having a tough game 815 00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 3: against Detroit. The Chiefs all looking for a get right 816 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 3: game offensively, as it's been kind of a slog for 817 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 3: them coming out of the gates, and we'll see who 818 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 3: ends up getting the better of it. And talking with 819 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 3: the Raven's defense has been a big talking point this 820 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 3: week based on how they performed against Detroit, particularly as 821 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,479 Speaker 3: it relates to the run defense. It just wasn't good 822 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 3: enough in that game. Everybody has said it. They said 823 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 3: it right after the game, and that has been consistent 824 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 3: throughout the week. They need to improve the run defense. 825 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 3: But I also get the sense that like they have 826 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 3: confidence that in their ability to do that, and John 827 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 3: Harwall has made that point, like we're going to be 828 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 3: a good defense, and we know what we need to correct, 829 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 3: we're going to do it. Basically, been a good defense 830 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 3: for a long time and that's going to continue, and 831 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 3: we're going to we're going to play really good football 832 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 3: on that side of the ball. 833 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 5: Really an offense is already playing really good football. 834 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: I think it's a very different challenge between the Lions 835 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: and the Chiefs when it comes to the run games. 836 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: You know, the Lions have one of the best backfield 837 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: tandems in the league, which mir gives in David Montgomery. 838 00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: The Chiefs, it's been running the ball has really kind 839 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: of been their weakness over the over recent years. When 840 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: they've been clicking offensively, it's because they've been running the 841 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: ball well. But when they haven't it, that's a major 842 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,320 Speaker 1: part of it. Yes, it's because they just haven't run it. Officially, 843 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: Pacheco Kareem Hunt. You know, it's a different challenge for 844 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 1: this Ravens defense. And and honestly, though, the Ravens defense 845 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,359 Speaker 1: is shorthanded on the defensive line, so anything right now 846 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: is going to be a pretty darn big challenge if 847 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: the Ravens aren't healthy in the trenches. But I think 848 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: that a lot of this comes down to Patrick Mahomes, 849 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: which is which is no surprise, and honestly, him running 850 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 1: the ball I think is a big challenge. Who has 851 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: more rushing yards right now? Patrick Mahomes or Lamar Jackson. 852 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 3: Well, I'm going to guess, based on the way you're 853 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 3: asking that question, that is Mahomes. 854 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:51,439 Speaker 1: Yes, just crazy crazy. I mean he is scrambling so far, 855 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: has been kind of what's kept their offense afloat. And 856 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: I talked to a Dafeoway in the locker room on Wednesday, 857 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: and the challeng of defending him as a runner is daunting, 858 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: very different challenge from Lamar. Obviously he's significantly slower than 859 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, but he's such a crafty runner Patrick Mahomes, 860 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 1: because he'll get defenders to leave their feet with his 861 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: pump fake, which he's very good at. And then also 862 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 1: when he starts going to that sideline, now there's a 863 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 1: seat of doubt in defender's heads on how do I 864 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: handle this guy? Because he doesn't just run out of 865 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 1: bounds like the normal quarterback, which putting his shoulder down 866 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 1: this year, well that's he's generally trying to draw a flag. 867 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,720 Speaker 1: So he'll slow down there and try to get touched, 868 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: and then he'll flop and he'll try to get a flag. 869 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 1: That's what he does. And then if a defender starts 870 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: to slow down because they're basically thinking, well, I don't 871 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: want to hit him late and get cause a fifteen 872 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,760 Speaker 1: yard penalty, now he'll truck you. He'll drop his shoulder 873 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,360 Speaker 1: and truck you on the sideline just to try to 874 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 1: fire up his team. So it's you're in a tough spot. 875 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 1: And I asked a Dafoe about that, and he's so like, 876 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: we got to hit him legally within the rules, but 877 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 1: we just got to run through him, Like you got 878 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 1: to show him I'm not afraid to I'm gonna hit you. 879 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 1: I'm not letting you come over there and bully meal 880 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 1: on the sideline. You're getting hit. Yeah, Now you got 881 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 1: to do it legally. 882 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's the tough part for defenders whenever you 883 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,879 Speaker 3: got to you know, star quarterback running and and it's 884 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 3: easier said than done. Like I think that probably when 885 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 3: the Chiefs have played every team this year, that's been 886 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 3: kind of a common refrain from defenders, like just hit him, 887 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 3: get him down, run through him, and like it's been tough. 888 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 5: He's been able to. 889 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,320 Speaker 3: I mean, he's he is really good at at getting 890 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 3: outside the pocket and extending plays when they with his feet, 891 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 3: when the opportunity presents itself like it is. 892 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 5: He's not a. 893 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 3: Design runner in the same way that Lamar has been 894 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,919 Speaker 3: in his career, but he's he's really good at at 895 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 3: extending drives well. 896 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 1: I think that teams obviously have to respect his ability 897 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,800 Speaker 1: to make plays with his arm when he's outside the pocket. 898 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:03,919 Speaker 1: We've seen that Manny many times, and so teams off 899 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 1: and end up all right, I gotta plaster my guy right, 900 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,879 Speaker 1: and you don't have eyes on the quarterback, and he'll 901 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 1: take advantage of that. And he he's just got this 902 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: knack about him as a runner, Like he's not particularly fast, 903 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 1: but you know he's a big guy and like he 904 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 1: takes the right angles and he can he can beat you. 905 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: Adaf said, you can't chop your feet with him because 906 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: he'll start dancing with you. Once he gets you dancing, 907 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 1: you're you're kind of in trouble with him. Yeah, you 908 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 1: got to run through them. It's like a b line 909 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 1: to the quarterback. And you you can't hesitate with him 910 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: because he'll he'll Djukia and so I think that is 911 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 1: really the Ravens' biggest challenge when facing the Chiefs. 912 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 3: Well, if you go back to Week one against Buffalo, 913 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 3: part of the conversation coming out of that game was 914 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 3: like rush lane integrity and Josh Allen getting outside the 915 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 3: pocket and extending plays. 916 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 1: Similar thing with the Homes exactly. 917 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 3: And adding to the challenge there is that the Ravens 918 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 3: maybe best all around pass rusher nom Madibike is out 919 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 3: this game. He's dealing with a neck injury and the 920 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 3: severity of it is not clear at this point. John 921 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:06,800 Speaker 3: Harbu said he's not going to play it this week 922 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 3: and he's concerned about it long term and. 923 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 5: What that looks like. 924 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,359 Speaker 3: I don't want to speculate, but we know that he's 925 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,799 Speaker 3: not going to be on the field this week. Did 926 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 3: not play a Monday against Detroit and just just really big. 927 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,319 Speaker 3: That's a huge blow for this team. I don't want 928 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 3: to minimize that at all, like not being bad. K 929 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 3: is one of the best players on this team. Yeah, 930 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 3: and not having him in the lineup is difficult to overcome. 931 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 1: Absolutely is I mean from a run defender standpoint, pass 932 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 1: rusher standpoint there's a reason why the Ravens made him 933 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,719 Speaker 1: one of the top paid defensive tackles in the league. 934 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,760 Speaker 1: You know, paid him alm with some one hundred million 935 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 1: dollars in that contract. So he's an awesome player. When 936 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 1: you lose awesome players, it takes a bite out of you. 937 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 2: You know. 938 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 1: And and now, of course there's always the next man 939 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,799 Speaker 1: up mentality, and that's how you have to think as 940 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 1: a team. And the Ravens have a history of players 941 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 1: stepping up in the defensive line and like still rallying 942 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 1: right And I think that at the end of the day, 943 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 1: they're gonna be better than what they are on paper 944 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,840 Speaker 1: right now, and they're gonna be a better run defense 945 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 1: than they were against the Detroit Lions. And there's also 946 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 1: we've talked all off season about how the depth of 947 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 1: this team and how talented this roster is. Even without 948 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,959 Speaker 1: Nominee Matabik, the Ravens still have a lot more talent 949 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,840 Speaker 1: on this roster and on this defense than a lot 950 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 1: of teams too. They do like it's a big it's 951 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 1: a big loss, but you cannot play the victim. You 952 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,360 Speaker 1: cannot just be like, we lost Nomdy, what are we 953 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 1: gonna do? We're already struggling. Oh my gosh, you know 954 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 1: what you got. You got enough talent on this defense 955 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,319 Speaker 1: to be good. And you don't have to. You don't 956 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 1: have to be the number one defense in the league 957 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 1: with the way this offense is playing right now. To 958 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 1: win a whole lot of games, you gotta be a 959 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: good defense. 960 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think this defense will. We'll get 961 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 3: back on track. The depth piece is interesting because I 962 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 3: think the area where they probably have the least depth 963 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 3: is on the defense. That's correct, and that's been even 964 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 3: further challenged. In addition to the injury to Mattabike, Travis 965 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 3: Jones and Broderick Washington have also missed practice time this week. 966 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 1: And Services with a knee and Proderick Washington with an ankle. 967 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 3: So we'll see what their status is for Sunday's game. 968 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 3: But like in addition to losing Matabik, you also have 969 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 3: just a banged up defensive front. 970 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 1: When you don't see your entire starting defensive line on 971 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,880 Speaker 1: the field practice starts on Wednesday, it's not a good feeling. 972 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 2: Well. 973 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 3: The Ravens then added two players to the practice squad, 974 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 3: two veteran players, Josh Tupo and Tavian Bryant to the 975 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 3: practice squad, and so they're veteran players who could I mean, 976 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,439 Speaker 3: depending on the situation with Washington and Travis Jones, those 977 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 3: guys might step into the lineup this week if the 978 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 3: Ravens need him. Brand Urban is also, of course a 979 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,360 Speaker 3: veteran player currently out of practice squad. He was activated 980 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,399 Speaker 3: last game. Would not surprise me at all if he's 981 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 3: activated again. 982 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 1: And activate everybody from the practice quack. 983 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 3: Right, So it's like, so the Ravens are dealing with 984 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 3: some challenges in the trenches, absolutely, and like that that 985 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 3: is something that they've got to overcome. And then if 986 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 3: you're shorthanded there he also need everybody behind those guys 987 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 3: to play better too, and not to allow some of 988 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 3: the issues that hurt them against Detroit mistackles, you know, 989 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:14,959 Speaker 3: bad angles, those types of things. 990 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 2: Yeah. 991 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,760 Speaker 1: Well, and there's injuries beyond that for the Ravens. Ronnie 992 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 1: Stanley misspractice on Wednesday. Pat Riccards still isn't back, which, 993 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 1: by the way, I think we've all kind of undersold 994 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 1: the impact that that has had on this team, especially 995 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,359 Speaker 1: on the running game. I mean, you talk about, all right, 996 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 1: we need to punch the ball in from the one. 997 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,319 Speaker 1: We need to be physical right up there. Who's your guy? 998 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:37,479 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's your guy. 999 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, not enough running lanes for Derek Henry. 1000 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 1: How many times do we see pat Riccard clearing the 1001 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:44,319 Speaker 1: way last year? 1002 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:45,799 Speaker 5: I mean, I know a guy that thought he was 1003 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 5: that called him the straw man. That's John Gruden. 1004 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:49,320 Speaker 3: He knows the thing or two about football, and he 1005 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 3: said that he's the straw man because he's the straw 1006 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 3: that serves a drink on this offense. 1007 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,400 Speaker 1: This drink needs a little stirring. 1008 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's like in. 1009 00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 1: The run game at least. 1010 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, Ricard Is he's not been practicing, so you know, 1011 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 3: the Ravens need him back as well. I'm not sure 1012 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 3: when that's going to happen. That there The positive on 1013 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 3: Isaiah l is Isaiah likely. The Ravens did not put 1014 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 3: him on injured reserve to open the season, and that 1015 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 3: was an If they had done that, he would have 1016 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 3: been out the first four weeks. The decision not to 1017 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 3: put him on IR was always and Eric DeCosta even 1018 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,399 Speaker 3: said this, The hope was to get him back within 1019 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 3: those first four games, or else you just would have. 1020 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 5: Put him on IR and he would have been out 1021 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 5: four games. 1022 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 3: This is a fourth game, so you think that there's 1023 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 3: you know, John Harbaugh indicated that he's hopeful that Isaiah 1024 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 3: likely is going to be able to play in this game, 1025 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 3: and so that would be a big time piece to 1026 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,880 Speaker 3: get back in this offense. And likely had a huge 1027 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 3: game against the Chiefs last year in Week one, almost 1028 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,759 Speaker 3: had an even bigger game at the very end, was 1029 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,359 Speaker 3: a tow away from having a monster game against Kansas City. 1030 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,839 Speaker 3: So having him back in the lineup would definitely give 1031 00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:58,240 Speaker 3: this team another piece. 1032 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, and they're gonna need. I mean, this is 1033 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,280 Speaker 1: a healthy Chiefs team. When you go down the injury 1034 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 1: report here for the Ravens, it's lengthy. The Chiefs are 1035 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 1: totally healthy. Savior Worthy suffered a shoulder injury in Week one. 1036 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,840 Speaker 1: He's expected to be back for this game. So the 1037 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:20,320 Speaker 1: Ravens are facing some challenges early in this season, obviously 1038 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,240 Speaker 1: with their record right now, and then also with injuries 1039 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,239 Speaker 1: and Namdi losing one of your best players here for 1040 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 1: who knows how long, and so this but as John 1041 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,360 Speaker 1: Harball said, this is kind of when you're still forging 1042 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 1: your team, and this feels like an early season crossroads 1043 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,800 Speaker 1: to a degree. I don't want to overstate it because 1044 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 1: there's still long ways to go, but it's one of 1045 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 1: those weeks against an opponent that you really want to 1046 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 1: beat in their place and you need to and so big, big, 1047 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 1: big game for the Raves. 1048 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,319 Speaker 3: Well, look, last year, the Ravens started season zero and two, 1049 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 3: then they became one and two, and then we four. 1050 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 3: They played the Buffalo Bills and had that was a 1051 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 3: home game, of course, but they blew them out and 1052 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,480 Speaker 3: then and then they were kind off to the races 1053 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 3: and things were settled and if things felt bad, things 1054 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 3: felt really bad at zero to two, and so things 1055 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,839 Speaker 3: feel bad at one and two for the Ravens this year. 1056 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 3: But like I do think that that experience from last 1057 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,399 Speaker 3: year does provide some good perspective. And Lamar Jackson even 1058 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 3: talked about go back to twenty nineteen. They were two 1059 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,560 Speaker 3: and two that season, then they rattled off what twelve 1060 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,759 Speaker 3: straight wins that year to go fourteen and two. So 1061 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,319 Speaker 3: like they've they've come out of the gate slow at 1062 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 3: times and been able to get back on track and 1063 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,799 Speaker 3: have really good seasons. And so like that's that's the 1064 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,279 Speaker 3: big picture view I think of his team. But for 1065 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,799 Speaker 3: this week, like they just know they have to they 1066 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 3: have to take care of business. One other point I 1067 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,440 Speaker 3: want to mention before we go is another big talking 1068 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,440 Speaker 3: point this week has been Derrick Henry and he's had 1069 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,760 Speaker 3: three fumbles in three games. He talked with the media 1070 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:55,239 Speaker 3: this week and he's like he's wearing it heavily. Like 1071 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 3: he even said, like, yeah, my feelings around this really 1072 00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,200 Speaker 3: haven't changed since after the game when he was so Yeah, 1073 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 3: he was distraught after the game and during after that 1074 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,400 Speaker 3: play and was still fired up when he talked to 1075 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 3: reporters on Wednesday. I think that's going to stick with 1076 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 3: him probably until kickoff, you know, of this game and 1077 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,400 Speaker 3: maybe even beyond, Like he'll probably be mad about this 1078 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 3: on Wolds forever. But like he talked about, he is 1079 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:19,560 Speaker 3: addressing it head on. I give him a lot of 1080 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,480 Speaker 3: credit to be honest for statting up and taking accountability, 1081 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,920 Speaker 3: answering a bunch of questions about it. Said he's working 1082 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,960 Speaker 3: on it and just knows like point blank he can't fumble, 1083 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 3: Like you can work on the ball security and you 1084 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 3: can do little things. But like at the end of 1085 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,520 Speaker 3: the day, like he's like, I'm kind of embarrassing with 1086 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,400 Speaker 3: talking about this. Like it's never been an issue in 1087 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,720 Speaker 3: his career and he knows that it's just not something 1088 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:40,480 Speaker 3: that can continue. 1089 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:40,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1090 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 1: Absolutely, I wouldn't want to be a defender facing an 1091 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 1: angry Derrick Henry. 1092 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,000 Speaker 3: No, I wouldn't want to face a happy, happy Derrick 1093 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:48,520 Speaker 3: Henry an angry Derek Kenny. 1094 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:52,759 Speaker 1: Is any version, any versions, especially angry? Yeah, that's a 1095 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,959 Speaker 1: recipe for an angry run. Yeah, shot out Kyle, That's right. 1096 00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think running the all is gonna be 1097 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 1: very important. The Ravens need to block it better too. 1098 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 1: Quite frankly, you look at all three. Really, two of 1099 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,200 Speaker 1: the three fumbles for Derrick Henry the fourth quarter kind 1100 00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 1: of backbreakers. Both when he's going laterally he just did 1101 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:17,080 Speaker 1: not have a really much room to run and defender 1102 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,120 Speaker 1: got him one from behind, one in front of him. 1103 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,880 Speaker 1: But Derek Henry running downhill, I'm less worried about him 1104 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:24,719 Speaker 1: fumbling the ball, to be honest. Yeah, so let's get 1105 00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,040 Speaker 1: Derek Henry running downhill. I'd like to see that happen. 1106 00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:28,440 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a big part of this 1107 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 1: game plan. And then for the Ravens offensively, they need 1108 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,080 Speaker 1: to be They need to beat the blitz and Lamar 1109 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:35,719 Speaker 1: Jackson has done a very good job of it. We 1110 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:39,200 Speaker 1: all know Steve Spagnolo and we all know that in 1111 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,359 Speaker 1: those critical third down situations, he's gonna he's gonna pull 1112 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:46,319 Speaker 1: out some exotic blitz. He's gonna be Safety's corners. There's 1113 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,680 Speaker 1: gonna be something exotic, and he's gonna be bringing the heat. 1114 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,560 Speaker 1: The Ravens need to have answers for the Chiefs blitz 1115 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,400 Speaker 1: in critical situations. Lamar Jackson has done well with it, 1116 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:56,279 Speaker 1: but he's coming off a game in which he got 1117 00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,839 Speaker 1: sacks seven times. So the Ravens need to be able 1118 00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:00,960 Speaker 1: to handle that blitz very well. They need to have 1119 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,080 Speaker 1: good pass protection, better pass protection than they had some 1120 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,120 Speaker 1: of those sacks. I think we're Lamar, you know, trying 1121 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,000 Speaker 1: to make run around the backfield and trying to make 1122 00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,120 Speaker 1: things happen and all that. They're not all on the 1123 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:13,040 Speaker 1: offensive line, but the O line needs to play better. 1124 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,319 Speaker 3: Well, just quickly, when you mentioned the offensive line, like 1125 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,200 Speaker 3: a big piece of that that's unknown right now is 1126 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,040 Speaker 3: Ronnie Stanley mispractice on Wednesday, and so like, yes, the 1127 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,439 Speaker 3: protection has to be better, but that assignment gets even 1128 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,759 Speaker 3: tougher if Ronnie Stanley weren't able to play in this 1129 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,600 Speaker 3: game or is hindered in any way, So you know, 1130 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,600 Speaker 3: fingers crossed that he's able to be out there and 1131 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:31,440 Speaker 3: be himself. 1132 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think another thing to watch in this 1133 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,600 Speaker 1: game from offensive perspective is how much do the Chiefs 1134 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,520 Speaker 1: try to replicate what the Lions did defensively that spy 1135 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:43,160 Speaker 1: Drew Trank. Will you know they have some unheralded but 1136 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 1: good inside linebackers and how effective are they with that 1137 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:53,080 Speaker 1: spy Because the Lions obviously executed it very well. It 1138 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,080 Speaker 1: wasn't anything the Ravens had never seen before, but they 1139 00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,920 Speaker 1: executed it really well. And you just wonder how much 1140 00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:59,440 Speaker 1: are the Chiefs going to try to replicate that? 1141 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,879 Speaker 3: Yea, So four twenty five kickoff on Sunday. It's gonna 1142 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,120 Speaker 3: be a big game and this team knows that they 1143 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,440 Speaker 3: need to put their best best foot forward in this 1144 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,560 Speaker 3: matchup and we are excited to see this thing kickoff 1145 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,040 Speaker 3: and Arrowhead. So thank you so much for watching and listening. 1146 00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 3: Also make sure you email us at the lounge at 1147 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,720 Speaker 3: Ravens dot NFL dot net let us know your thoughts 1148 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:18,879 Speaker 3: questions that you have. 1149 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,440 Speaker 5: Thank you again for watching. We'll see you again on Sunday,