1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,279 Speaker 1: We're living in the golden age of athlete generated content. 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: People are leaning into receiving their content in a different way. 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: If I want to hear about basketball, I want to 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: hear it from Shaquille O'Neill, not. 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 2: Respectfully, not stephen A. Smith. 6 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I do. A'm pig big big for pull me 7 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 3: to win. 8 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: I do. 9 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 3: We're big, big big sing it again. I know we're big, 10 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 3: big big. 11 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 4: I'm pull me to win. 12 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 3: I do a big, big, big sing it again. 13 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 5: I do a big. 14 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: What is up? 15 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 4: What is good? 16 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 5: Another edition of The Big podcast. This one is special. 17 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 5: It is dropping on Shaq's fifty second birthday. Big fella, 18 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 5: I love you with all of my heart. Happy birthday. 19 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 5: It is not just me. I have a few friends 20 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 5: that want to wish you happy birthday. Hey, Shaq is 21 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 5: your girl, kigy And yes, I do love you. 22 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 6: Happy birthday to you. 23 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 5: Sending you all the love in the world. 24 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 7: And I know you're gonna have an amazing day because 25 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 7: you're an amazing person. You deserve it, keeping the icon 26 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 7: we all know and love you to be. 27 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 2: Shaquilloo, Happy birthday, brother. 28 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 5: I got a present for you, and I'll bring it 29 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 5: to Atlanta and it's better than this. 30 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 8: Happy birthday, Shaq shaq d what's happening to Papa? Happy birthday. 31 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 8: It's great to see you out there. It's great to 32 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 8: see that you're still growing. I don't mean physically, although 33 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,919 Speaker 8: you're probably still growing physically, but you're still growing spiritually, 34 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 8: expanding your knowledge and still gaining understanding and depth, just 35 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 8: getting better with age. That's a beautiful thing to see. 36 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 8: And I hope we get to spend some more time 37 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 8: together in these coming years as we both age like 38 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 8: fine wine. 39 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: H all right, brother man boom, Happy. 40 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 9: Birthday, big diesel, this shit boy, Bill Bellamy in the building. 41 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 9: Happy fifty two dog who knew the yelds A good bye? 42 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 9: It's fast. More importantly, Bro, you doing big things. You 43 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 9: got the rings. You're doing big things and we love you. 44 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 9: You know you ride for the city all day. 45 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 2: Egg day shack. What's up? 46 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 5: This is Gary on Happy fifty second birthday. 47 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, short and sweet baby, Hey man, love and respect man, 48 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 2: I happy birthday. 49 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 6: I want you to enjoy it. 50 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 2: You mean so much to so many, man, Thank you 51 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 2: so much for all the game you done gave and 52 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 2: the example that you've made. I in a minute, big 53 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 2: what up. It's small. 54 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 4: I just want to say happy birthday. Bro. 55 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 6: Everybody knows you want the best players to ever play. 56 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 6: You want the best business man, you want the best 57 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 6: entertainers to ever do it. But more than anything, the 58 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 6: person you are is the best quality about you. You 59 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 6: do one one thousand that people even know about you. 60 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 6: Always care for people. That's the best thing about your heart. 61 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 6: And I appreciate you. I appreciate your brotherhood, I appreciate 62 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 6: your friendship. You always do everything for everybody else. But 63 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 6: hopefully to day you're surrounded by loved ones and you're 64 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 6: doing exactly what you wanted to do. Love you, bro, 65 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,119 Speaker 6: Boom shack a lack of lack of Happy birthday. 66 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 2: You're still a young man. Oo make good news for 67 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 2: your time every birthday, Babe bruh. 68 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 5: So for myself, Producer Shane, and the entire Playmaker family Shack, 69 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 5: Happy birthday. We love you, bro. 70 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 2: What is out? What is good? 71 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 5: How you living, how you're feeling, how you're doing it 72 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 5: is the only podcast that makes you go damn. That 73 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 5: podcast is big. It is the big podcast with Shaquiel 74 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 5: excuse me, doctor Shaquille oh Neil, who decided to come 75 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 5: downstairs and SWEATPANTSJA pajama pants? 76 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 4: Right? 77 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 5: Do you actually sleep in pajamas? 78 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 4: No? I don't sleep in anything. Buck naked, No, not 79 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 4: buck naked. I sleep in an underwear and T shirt. Okay, 80 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,839 Speaker 4: do my favorite? You know everybody do my favorite? Don't 81 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 4: ever ask another man what he sleeps in. Trust me 82 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 4: on that. 83 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 5: Well, we're gonna have Cam Newton later and I'm gonna 84 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 5: ask Cam Newton now, just to spite you, what do 85 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 5: you wear to sleep? I'm naked? 86 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 2: All right? 87 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 5: So we got Cam coming up, really excited to talk 88 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 5: to him. Are But though Jason Kelsey, who we talked 89 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 5: to at the Super Bowl, officially putting it in he's retired. 90 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 5: Uh as an Eagles fan, this makes me insanely sad. 91 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 5: As a friend of him, I feel really proud. But 92 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 5: it was interesting your comments telling him about going off 93 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 5: to retirement. 94 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 4: I don't like to use the D word, but when 95 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,119 Speaker 4: I stopped playing, I was doing another done before, talking 96 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 4: to neighbors and again. I had another year in Boston, 97 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 4: but I had the injury, so I didn't have any 98 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 4: deals or anything. So I'm just at my house. I'm 99 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 4: I like I usually like wake up to ten to 100 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 4: go to practice. I wake up at ten, but I 101 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 4: don't have nothing to do to that. Yeah, so I'd 102 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 4: go to like I was actually looking for people to go, hey, 103 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 4: check because I didn't have it. 104 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 7: So most of the guys I've talked to have said 105 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 7: something similar, and I think Chris Long said it really well, 106 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 7: which is when you're playing, you're like this with your 107 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 7: your your you're winning the highest the highs, you're losing 108 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 7: the lowest lows in your emotions and the way you're 109 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 7: riding and are like this and this and this right, 110 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 7: and then once you're done playing, you're like this, and 111 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 7: it feels weird and it takes a while to get 112 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 7: used to that. 113 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 4: My advice to you is, if you are going to retire, 114 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 4: yes accept it. Enjoy your family, brother, thank you. I 115 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 4: made a lot of mistakes to where I lost my 116 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 4: family and I didn't have anybody. That's not the case 117 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 4: for you, So enjoy your beautiful wife, enjoy your beautiful kids, 118 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 4: and never dwell on what we had. What we had 119 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 4: is what we got. You got the ring. People know 120 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 4: who you are. Enjoy it because again I was, I 121 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 4: was an idiot, and I've talked about it in a 122 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 4: long time. Lost my own family. It's been one hundred 123 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 4: dollars square for the house by myself. 124 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 5: Again went viral and I feel like you probably had 125 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 5: people hitting you up asking if you were okay after 126 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 5: those the. 127 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 4: People as the kid. But before you do it, I'm 128 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 4: gonna leave him a message. While we're on the podcast, Jason, 129 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 4: I want to say one. I knew you was going 130 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 4: to do it to my brother. Great career, love you, 131 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 4: love your family. Welcome to my life. Let me tell 132 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 4: you what my life consists of. Nothing. Wake up, go outside, 133 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 4: pick up that paper. I know you've never done that before. 134 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 4: Oh you know what you have your wife, fix your plate, 135 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 4: make your own plate, wash your own dishes, you take 136 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 4: out the garbage. Now walk up to my life. Buddy, 137 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 4: you have converted yourself into a regular man and superman too. 138 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 4: When he went back to the North South Pole and 139 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 4: gave his powers up, that's what you have just done. 140 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 4: Congratulations brother, I love you. Remember what I said, enjoy 141 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 4: your beautiful wife and enjoy your family. 142 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 5: You knew he was going to retire. 143 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 4: I know everything, brother, I can tell. 144 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 5: What was it like his eyes or the way you 145 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 5: do his eyes? 146 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 4: Like you know when you when you interact with people, 147 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 4: you have to realize, like when you ask the question, 148 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 4: if a person looks to the left, that's the imaginative 149 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 4: side of your brain. So it's not they going to 150 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 4: tell a lie, but they're, you know, looking for looking 151 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 4: for time. You're going to retire, And he's he's corporate, 152 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 4: he's smart. Yeah, oh well, I don't know. I have 153 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 4: to talk to my you know, you know, the corporated. 154 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 5: But I knew, so look to the left as a 155 00:06:58,720 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 5: lie is look to the right. 156 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 4: Truth. I didn't say, it's not that. I said, you're 157 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 4: looking to the imaginative, So you're making things up. I 158 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 4: didn't say that. I'm not, you know what, I'm making 159 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 4: my announcement here. I'm making my announcement here. I am 160 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 4: making preparations to get my master's in sports psychology. I 161 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 4: will in the next three years be the foremost expert 162 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 4: when it comes to sports psychology. So I read that, 163 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 4: but I don't want to, you know, act like it's 164 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 4: affirmative yet because I don't have that title behind it. 165 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 4: But I'm telling you now, I'm making preparations to go 166 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 4: to school to get my mask. 167 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 2: I have to go to l s U. 168 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 5: If you're going to get four degrees or no, go anywhere. 169 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 4: No, I can go. I can go anywhere. Harvard if 170 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 4: I want to go to Harvard, can go to Harvard. 171 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 4: But I'm I'm like, you know, I want to be. 172 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 4: I want to be, you know, solidified. 173 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 5: When I say something, someone talks on TNT, you could 174 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 5: be like, I know exactly what they're thinking. 175 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 4: I know exactly what they're doing. And now when I 176 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 4: say something as a sports psychologist, you can't be like 177 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 4: I'm hating, Like no, no, no, I'm educated in that's 178 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 4: right masters. And I might get my doctor in there too. 179 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 4: I don't know yet. 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Again, that's further people dot com slash big 190 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 4: or pound law pound five to nine from yourself. This 191 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 4: is a paid advertisement. 192 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 5: So going back though that video where you were like listen, 193 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 5: love your family, all that stuff, you had people hitting 194 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 5: you up, checking on you after that, Yeah, they thought 195 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 5: I was lonely, and you're like, no, that was that 196 00:08:58,320 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 5: was twenty years ago. 197 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 4: No, I'm I'm still lonely, but you know you have 198 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 4: to let me rephrase that. I'm never lonely. 199 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 5: I was gonna say, you got you got Kenny here, 200 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 5: you got the fans. 201 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. So, like, I'm a I'm 202 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 4: a guy that works first, So working takes up, you know, 203 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 4: most of my day, and then I have to check 204 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 4: on the family and check on the kids. That takes 205 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 4: up another and then it's work, and then's and then 206 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 4: it's a hookah break. But I never complained because my 207 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 4: mom is it could be worse. It could always be worse. 208 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 4: So I'm I'm programmed not to complain about anything. So 209 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 4: but yeah, people check them on me. But yeah, I'm 210 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 4: I'm fine. But you know, a lot a lot of 211 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 4: times you you sit back and what if it's three 212 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 4: what ifs that will never go away. What if I 213 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 4: had to call my sister two minutes before she passed away, 214 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 4: I said I love you. What if I could have 215 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 4: dropped my ego and been like, oh, what you're doing, 216 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 4: my boy? And what if I did the right thing 217 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 4: when I was supposed to do the right thing as 218 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 4: a marror man? Those will never go away. I don't 219 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 4: care what happens the number four? What's the fourth? 220 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 5: If you dressed like an adult and didn't wear pajamas 221 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 5: on the podcast today Weird so we you said no 222 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 5: to him on that message was you're a regular man. 223 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 4: Now. Yeah. 224 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 5: What people like me don't understand, will never understand, is 225 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 5: athletes have two lives. Your life as an athlete, where 226 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 5: your whole life you are Shaquilla and Neal basketball Malayer. 227 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 5: And then suddenly you're wrong, regular. 228 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 4: Man, you're wrong. We have one life when we play. 229 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 4: We're programmed. So for us, wake up at eight, get 230 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 4: on the highway, practice at ten to eleven, practice two 231 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 4: three hours, come home food. I never did all that, 232 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 4: that's all that's fake. So after practice, rested, day to yourself, 233 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 4: business party, whatever, boomoo, game day, wake up at eight, 234 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 4: shoot around to ten, come back, take a nap, leave 235 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 4: a five, go to the game, travel day before, get 236 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 4: your clothes. Look at your schedule, five six games, outfits, boon, 237 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 4: this party? 238 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 6: Is this? 239 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 4: So he's doing that. So now when you retire, all 240 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 4: that stops. So unless you have other business. Because like 241 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 4: when I when I left the game, it was a 242 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 4: year two early because I had a two year deal 243 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 4: with Boston, so I had a career ending injury. So 244 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 4: I didn't have things set up yet. So for six 245 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 4: months I was just at the house, not doing anything, 246 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 4: and I would like wake up and be like, damn, 247 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 4: I ain't got nowhere to go. And then I would 248 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 4: do stuff I've never done. I'd go outside and be like, 249 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 4: is this the paper? Is that my neighbor crow foot Croy? 250 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 4: What's up my boy? What you're doing today? 251 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 6: Oh? 252 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 4: Shock? We taking a boat out? Oh damn, I don't 253 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 4: have a boat. Kenny, give me a boat. So now 254 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 4: I'm on the lake just looking at that. People fit 255 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 4: like Kenny, you got some rods man. We ain't never 256 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 4: fixed before, go to sports or get like. I was 257 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 4: just doing stuff I'd never done. 258 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 5: What was the first executive business thing that you did 259 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 5: after you retired. 260 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 4: So the first thing I did was I I came 261 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 4: home because I had to make a decision. Okay, you 262 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 4: got one year left, do you honor that? I want 263 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 4: to pass the World Chamberlain. So I could say I'm 264 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 4: the most dominant big man ever. But damn, you're not 265 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 4: shock anymore. You're playing with the guys, three guys that 266 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 4: are ahead of you. You only you're averaging single digits. People. 267 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 4: You don't want to go out like that. Let me 268 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 4: just let me think about it. And I think about 269 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 4: it and think about it and think about it, and I 270 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 4: was like, you know what, I'm gonna retire. And then 271 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 4: I invited all the TV stations because the finals were 272 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 4: in Miami. 273 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 5: We're gonna tap into Shack's big business brain. This is 274 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 5: from one of our favorite ads, Zipercruier. They're great. What 275 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 5: was the first business that Shack started after retiring from 276 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 5: the NBA? 277 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 4: The first business starter after return from the NBA? Well, 278 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 4: I don't really. Shack doesn't really start businesses start. Shack 279 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 4: is the master of joint ventures. Like I always give 280 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 4: this example, I want to do a podcast, Do I 281 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 4: go get some cameras, call some people? No, who's the 282 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 4: how to produce, so shame, what's up? What's the network? 283 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 4: I can go with playmakers, joint venture boom bom boom, 284 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 4: because it's all about delegation with me, Like you know, 285 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 4: my brain is not focused enough what it can be, 286 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 4: but it's not focused enough for me to handle all 287 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 4: the incourtasy intricacies by myself. The first business I had 288 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 4: was a shoe company, the Shock brand. But I know 289 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 4: nothing about shoes. So what do I do? I do 290 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 4: a JV with Reebok. You know everything about shoes and 291 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 4: all the things I need to know. My emblem goes here. 292 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 4: This is the price point, this is where I want them? 293 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 4: How much am I getting? What are my royalty fees? 294 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 10: You know? 295 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 2: Like that. 296 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 4: So that's why I've never really started a business from scratch. 297 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 4: I've always did joint ventures because it's easier and then 298 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 4: the only thing you have to worry about is what's 299 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 4: on a piece of paper, rather than we're out shoe 300 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 4: factories in China and where they get the material from 301 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 4: and who's working there. Make sure they ain't going to 302 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 4: create like I don't want no parts of that. Well, 303 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 4: I get with a company that's already doing that, and boom, bam, 304 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 4: and I learned that. I learned that from the dummies 305 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 4: guy to starting your own business. They talk about you know, 306 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 4: sole proprietorship, joint venture, ship, they talk about the different 307 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 4: forms of business, and I was like, how can I 308 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 4: play basketball but still do all this stuff? 309 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 5: So it all comes down to the right people and 310 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 5: where can you find the right people? 311 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 4: ZipRecruiter Baby. 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So I wasn't thinking about 328 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 4: TV because remember I still had a year left on 329 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 4: my deal. 330 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 5: Gotcha. 331 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 4: So the luckily the finals were in Miami and I 332 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 4: was going to go down there, but my father was 333 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 4: very ill at the time. So I put out a 334 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 4: nice invitation and I had a big gym like this no, 335 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 4: and I said, Hey, I'm doing my uh you know 336 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 4: retirement thingy. Well, actually I did on Twitter first because 337 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 4: I didn't because I had friends all over and I 338 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 4: didn't want to give anybody the lebron yeah, the school. 339 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 4: So I put it out on Twitter and then I said, hey, 340 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 4: I'm doing an event in my house. I had food 341 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 4: and I did the press conference at my house and 342 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 4: then ESPN came, Skipper came and said, hey, do you 343 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 4: want to talk to you? Err and TNT came said 344 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 4: I wanted to talk to you, And I told my agent, 345 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 4: see what they're talking about. And I looked at the 346 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 4: number and I was like, to talk on TV. Yeah, 347 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 4: I have a job. Yeah, but I'm professional. I don't 348 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 4: like to pit people against each other. You know, I 349 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 4: realize ESPN is very very corporate. I have a D 350 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 4: H D A D A D D D D you 351 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 4: do probably wouldn't work up there. T and T is 352 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 4: a little bit more loose. I sent them gonna go 353 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 4: with T and T and Plus it was in Atlanta. Yes, 354 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 4: I'm familiar with the city, been living here thirty years. 355 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 4: I wasn't comfortable with going to Connecticut. All right. 356 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 5: We now have a segment sponsored by the General, the 357 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 5: number one place where if you ever get any form 358 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 5: of insurance, you're gonna feel like a better person. You're 359 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 5: gonna be happier. And remember Shack has the General be 360 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 5: like Shack most likely to break out young players in 361 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 5: the NBA that you think in the second half of 362 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 5: the season can take that jump. I have three names here. 363 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 5: Pallo bang Cao, just named first time All Star for 364 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 5: the Orlando Magic. Orlando looking like they could be a 365 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 5: playoff team. Anthony Edwards Minnesota Timberwolves. People are saying he 366 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,719 Speaker 5: could be a future face of the NBA. On our 367 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 5: Tuesday show, Candice is always talking about how he moves 368 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 5: like Michael Jordan and Jamal Crawford gets very upset and 369 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 5: then Tyrese Halliburton. He was sort of the face of 370 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 5: the NBA in the first half of the year. Indiana 371 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 5: shocked people in the n season tournament. Indiana looking to 372 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 5: make a run. Paolo and Tyresee do you think any 373 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 5: of them can make the leap? 374 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 2: Well? 375 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 4: Being as professional as you are. I thought he was 376 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 4: going to give me three. 377 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 5: You only gave me two, which one of those doesn't count. 378 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 5: PLO plo doesn't count. 379 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, because you gotta understand when you say jump, my 380 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 4: jump is different than you jump. When I say jump 381 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 4: is superstar. 382 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,479 Speaker 5: So you're saying Polo can go from really good player 383 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 5: to star. Yes, Andon, Tyreesee could go from star to 384 00:17:59,400 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 5: super stop. 385 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 4: I didn't say, and tyres I think, I think, I think, 386 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 4: and it is and it's close, but you know, and 387 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 4: it's a guy. He's right there, Tyresse, because nobody's really 388 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 4: looking at him. He can hit that star Trek button. 389 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 4: He can hit that like we already got eyes on that. 390 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 4: We already we know who you are. You're already your 391 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 4: mini superstars know who you are, tyree You forgot a name. 392 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 5: S g A m HM. Who's leading to an m 393 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 5: v P voting m v P odds right now. 394 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 4: And guess what if you look at it. If you 395 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 4: look at a guy like him and Luca, guys that 396 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 4: play at their own pace, what if they're up the 397 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 4: pace a little bit, it's not gonna slow him down. 398 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 4: It's only going You see what I'm saying. S g 399 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 4: A is But every time you speed him up, he 400 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 4: just he takes off. So me, it would be Trey, 401 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 4: excuse me, Trey, I always say Trey Tyrese Haer Burden Yeah, 402 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 4: s g A. And I gotta go with Victor. 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He 420 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 5: is a master of memes, assaultant of style, a confidence 421 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 5: that if you question it, he will look you in 422 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 5: the face and say, is you dumb? Let's give it 423 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 5: up of the NFL superman, Cam Newton up in the house, 424 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 5: that CC legend. 425 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,199 Speaker 4: However, did you guys ever beat the l s U? 426 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 2: Did we flawless at Auburn? 427 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 5: I don't think they lost the game? 428 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 1: I think so I would Who did you play against 429 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: the best one of the best defenses that l s 430 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: U actually had? 431 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 4: Give me a name. Uh? 432 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 1: They had Marcus Clayborne, they had a young Honey Badger Peterson, 433 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: strong d line linebacker, corps everything. 434 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 4: I got a question. I'm a hat guy, Yes, sir, 435 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,479 Speaker 4: you the only can I see rock hats like that? 436 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 4: Where the hell you get him from? 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So 464 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 4: how you been, brother? 465 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: Everything good and everything good, man, everything good. I have 466 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: to say this, you know what I'm saying. This dude 467 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: more plugged than Barack Obama. And not a lot of 468 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: people have a presence or it's like Shaq's here, yo, Yeah, 469 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 1: he's here right now, and then like you can't see 470 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,959 Speaker 1: him a touch of it. It's like, bro, me like, no, no, no, no, no, no, 471 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: you gotta go through this person. Didn't go through that person. Dang, 472 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: you gotta go through that person this y'all. But yeah, man, 473 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: he's a person for you. I want to give you 474 00:22:55,000 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: your flowers that give guys like me hope, Like the 475 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 1: authenticity that you bring, the measure of just staying organic 476 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: to who you are. Bro, being in movies, whether movies 477 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 1: or making music, and still dominating at a high level. 478 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 2: Bro like thank you for empowering me to be me. 479 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 4: I appreciate that, and I've it's probably like a six 480 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 4: or seven time meeting. Yes, sir, you've always been very 481 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 4: hospitable to me. We know mutual people and they all 482 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 4: say you're a nice guy. I want to ask you 483 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 4: this question. Why when I look at clips of you 484 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 4: at your little football camps, kids feel they could talk 485 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 4: to you any type of way. 486 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 2: It's the access. 487 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 1: Access like when you and just just to give you context, right, So, 488 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: anybody who knows me know I'm a I'm a product 489 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: of my environment, born and raised in Atlanta, Georgia. 490 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 2: What you saw was those are grown men. 491 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:11,719 Speaker 1: Those weren't kids, So that narrative was familiar coaching, you know, 492 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 1: and it got chippy for me. That's not the first 493 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: time that happens, and honestly, knowing my world, that probably 494 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: won't be the last. I think. Looking back at it, Yeah, 495 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: people see like, yeah, Cam standing on business, Yeah Cam 496 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: had bobby pins in his head. 497 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 2: You know, those are all funny things. 498 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,479 Speaker 1: But when I look at it, it's like, man, they 499 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: could have got ugly on both sides. Because I'm the 500 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 1: type of person when I feel triggered, I react. It's 501 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: not come on, shack, let's go get them it, come on, 502 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: let's go. I'm not that person. You say something to 503 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: me and I go, I don't think. And that's the issue. 504 00:24:54,560 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 1: And that's where my whole support was kind of caught 505 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: off guard because if we were talking, something was said 506 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: and then it was like, hey, where are you going? 507 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to use the restaurant. So then, but that's 508 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: just how rock and roll, you know what I'm saying. 509 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 1: But I just have to be better, and I want 510 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 1: to use this as an example for athletes, entertainers, people 511 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: of influence, guys like your son, because they know the 512 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: Shaduers of the world, the brownis of the world. 513 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying That. 514 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 1: It's high like a target to people where you just 515 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: want to chill out with your friends. You may want 516 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: to be an in and out burger, you want to 517 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 1: go to Chick fil a, you want to just go 518 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 1: to a hookah lounge. You just want to hang out. 519 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: Somebody gonna say something triggering to you, and it just 520 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: takes one time and ugly because I could be I 521 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: could be in jail, somebody filing a lawsuits. What happens, 522 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 1: you know, what I'm saying, they could you know, been prepared. 523 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: We in a Lennard next to a gate. 524 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 5: What happens if someone goes over that gate? 525 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 4: You tell you. 526 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 5: But you were even talking about just like clips of 527 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 5: kids in the past. 528 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw one where some kid was just always 529 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 4: just going back and forth. You never you never said 530 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 4: to yourself, kids, you're not gonna disrespect me, get out 531 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 4: my camp. I'm gonna show you how to respect a 532 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 4: person like me. Get out my camp. I mean because 533 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 4: I had that happened to me one time the kid 534 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 4: was talking Greez. I was that my man, you gotta 535 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 4: get out. I paid my money. I don't care. You 536 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 4: got to get out like you just because it's a 537 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 4: pecking order thing like you Cam Newton. Yeah, you're legend 538 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 4: in this game. So if I'm a kid, I'm like 539 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 4: this when you're talking, especially if I'm a black kid 540 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,719 Speaker 4: who want to be quarterback, I'm like this. But you know, 541 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 4: like you said, we product of our environment. We used 542 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 4: to going back and forth. But you don't talk to 543 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 4: a camp like that. You don't talk to a shock 544 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 4: like that at his camp. Like have you ever said, hey, kid, 545 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 4: get out? 546 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: I say it like this never started. I always finish it, 547 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Any Like I'm I mean, 548 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: I got my president here, I got you know, head 549 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: of digital here, Like I joke with them all the time, 550 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: you know, I will always tell them like I got my. 551 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 2: PhD in talking, Hey I got. 552 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: I grew up with a house, a very masculine house, 553 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 1: where brothers and cousins and playing basketball, playing football like 554 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: you just go around, you know, and using talking as 555 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 1: a tactic, you know. And I can talk it in 556 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: the church, I can talk it in. 557 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:35,959 Speaker 2: The streets or whatever. 558 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: But for kids, they were living in the in a 559 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: time where instead of seeing a shock and saying, oh 560 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: my god, this shack, we see these kids now say 561 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 1: oh that shack, I'm gonna try it and I'm gonna 562 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: go viral for it, you see what I'm saying. 563 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 2: And that's just where we are. 564 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 1: And it's not that that's an issue, Black, It's not 565 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: that it's an issue. It's more or less like I 566 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,360 Speaker 1: just got to go down to the level to bring 567 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: them up, you know what I'm saying. And it's like, yo, bro, 568 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: because there's been many times that somebody tried me and 569 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 1: when I when I matched their energy. 570 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 2: Then they played a victim. 571 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 4: I saw that. You see what I'm saying. 572 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 2: It's like, no, bro, like I give you what you want. 573 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 574 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 5: I just recently seen. 575 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: That's all I'm trying to do. I don't start it. 576 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: I just finished it. I just recently seen something with 577 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant. I don't know what was said about. 578 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 5: There was a white guy and a white lady. She 579 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 5: walked in. I guess they called him the B word, 580 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 5: which is like the ultimate insult in basketball, and then 581 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 5: when he turned around, they were like, oh no, we 582 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 5: got a podcast, and it's like get them. 583 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 584 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 5: But but I think you're right. Access people take it 585 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 5: for granted. 586 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I and even to that point, you know, 587 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: it was it was more familiarity than. 588 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 2: People gave it. 589 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: You know, these are people who I knew, they was 590 00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: a part of my program at one particular point. They 591 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: started their own and you know, it was what it was, 592 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: and it's hard for me to believe. It just comes 593 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: off as disingenuous of you know, Banster going back and forth. 594 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: But it's like I don't I don't mention it, and 595 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: everybody gets the same cam. 596 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 2: You know, it's not like it's just shocking. Oh my god, 597 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 2: It's like, no, everybody gonna get the same version of me. 598 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 2: You feel me so. 599 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 4: And I wanted to say thank you because I could 600 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 4: tell your old school the other side doing interviews and 601 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 4: tweeting and talking about you having said one word. So 602 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 4: I appreciate you. Let's ask some questions. You know, you're 603 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 4: giving us your own answer. I appreciate That's a week 604 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 4: for sure, we're gonna get off that subject. 605 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think I think I think it's needed, 606 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: you know, because I mean, I'm a vessel man that 607 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to. 608 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 2: Be the person. 609 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: It's easy for us to say I need to go 610 00:29:59,160 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: back to the hill. 611 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 2: I'm straight, I'm good. 612 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: But the reality of it all is, when I was 613 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: coming up in Atlanta, there was nobody that I could touch, 614 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,719 Speaker 1: There was nobody that I can talk to, nothing, nothing. 615 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: Michael Vick was at his height when I was in 616 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: middle school. And if Michael Vick would have came to 617 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: College Park, I'm talking about when when Michael Vick was 618 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: doing air train commercials in the Southwest HLAs experience that man, 619 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: I spent my last book fair money at it to 620 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: get a poster, and I didn't. 621 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 2: Eat for a week. 622 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: I was stealing food just about a Michael Vick poster. 623 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: But I say all that to say is like I 624 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: know what I mean to my community, and no matter 625 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: where I go, I can't I can't stop, and I 626 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: can't get discouraged because something don't go my way. For 627 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: that one issue that people see go viral. I got 628 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,479 Speaker 1: hundreds of posit n activity, things that out undone and 629 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: people I've impacted, rent that I've paid, you know, things 630 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: that I've given away that will always remain anonymous to 631 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: the degree because I don't do it for the likes. 632 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 2: I don't do it for it. It's just men. My 633 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 2: purpose on Earth is just to give back. 634 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 5: And I always wondered, how did Cam Newton ever play 635 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 5: for the Falcons. I've just I've always wondered that. 636 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 2: Arthur and already get in contact with me. 637 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 5: You just haven't because that man being from here and 638 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 5: playing for that team. 639 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 640 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 5: I just always thought Atlanta Falcons could be like the 641 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 5: NFL Mecca. All the players want to be here in 642 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 5: the off season. Sure, Atlanta is a great city, stadium 643 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 5: is great. I just I never understood it. 644 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, do you miss it? You miss playing. 645 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: I was having this conversation with my girl the other 646 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: day and. 647 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 2: I will always miss it, and I think I gotta 648 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 2: I gotta be real. 649 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 1: I think the thing that I miss, like competitive sports, 650 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: was an outlet. 651 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 2: And I say this respectfully of like rage. 652 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, boy, you know what I mean, 653 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: Like you can do that in sports. 654 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, when you in the when 655 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 2: you in here. 656 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: In Shahokah, that's gonna start a fight, you know what 657 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: I'm saying. But on a on a court or on 658 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: the field, that's just like the off me the. 659 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 2: Gets wrong with you a little boy? You know what 660 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 2: I mean? 661 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: Like that, it's just in the real world, like you 662 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: don't have these outlets to talk to somebody. 663 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 2: So, yeah, I play tennis, now, you know what I'm saying. 664 00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 1: I I go to my son's basketball games and I 665 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: love it. But those raging outlets you don't have, and 666 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: that anxiety of like yo, I gotta okay, I gotta 667 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: get myself in that with just the last go round 668 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: until like I really gotta switch in you know, five 669 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 1: am workouts. It's like eating meal prep like, nah, bro, 670 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: like everybody holding you accountable, Like, hey bro, they saying 671 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: that debta thing. You're like those things you miss, But 672 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: this is always It's always been something that I'm like, 673 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 1: I've always was prepared for this day being away from 674 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,719 Speaker 1: the game. I don't think I gave myself enough credit 675 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: to accept not having that feeling. You know, you're down 676 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: going through that tunnel, you know, and not only that, 677 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: as you know, it's just a camaraderie the locker room. 678 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: You know, you got that one player on your team 679 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: that he may not be good on the court or 680 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: on the field, but you just love being around heet. 681 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: He gonna have to t he gonna have to green 682 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: tea to Camon Mill and the earl grade to day. 683 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. He just knows how to 684 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 2: get everybody. You know what I'm saying. 685 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: Going and after a big win, you know that that 686 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: team playing going home, you know what I'm saying, Like 687 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: those link ups from family, the thanksgivings, the birthday trips 688 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 1: to all seasons and Lincoln you missed that. 689 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean. 690 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 4: I didn't miss it because the shock that people remember 691 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:31,319 Speaker 4: was thirty five, fifteen nine. I started getting older. Like 692 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 4: when I was playing Boston, I was averaging single ditches. 693 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 4: Yeah right, I feel like I feel like I was 694 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 4: cheating the system all that other stuff you mentioned. I 695 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 4: definitely missed that. But when I started getting older and 696 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 4: would have to before I get a dunk, it just 697 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 4: wasn't the same. So yeah, it was a pump thing. 698 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 4: Oh mine don't look like that. Mine just. 699 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:56,439 Speaker 2: But too. 700 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: Like I know exactly how you feel, and that's really wild. 701 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 1: I don't even want to go back, though I do, 702 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: but I don't. I do because if it's a great opportunity. 703 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: But I'm at peace with myself because I gave football everything. 704 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 705 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 1: I didn't want to see my I didn't want to 706 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 1: see Newton on multiple jerseys. I didn't even want to 707 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 1: see Newton on the Patriots jersey. To be honest with you, 708 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,799 Speaker 1: I just would have thought that they would have did 709 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:27,479 Speaker 1: me better. But it's like, nah, I got something to prove, right. 710 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: I love that whole experience. You know, Bill Belichick is 711 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 1: a legend, and I downplayed his presence, I downplayed you know, 712 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: the Patriot way. That was just an experience that I 713 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 1: still hold dear and true to my world of business, 714 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: let alone anything else. That Patriot organization is ran like 715 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 1: a fine old business. Everybody's on the same page, and 716 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 1: it's all about winning. 717 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 2: You know, whatever you need, do you unique gold uphosteres 718 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 2: and this is it gonna help us win? 719 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: Get ten of them? You know what I'm saying? Smoking cigar? 720 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: Is that gonna help you win? 721 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 5: Yeah? 722 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 2: Get twenty. 723 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 5: So did Bill understand because your personality always popped when 724 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 5: you played the Superman in the end zone and all 725 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,479 Speaker 5: that stuff. But everyone assumes the Patriots stripped that away 726 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 5: from you. But it seemed like that motivated you. Did 727 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 5: they embrace the okay, and we need you to be you. 728 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 5: We need you to let it all out. 729 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 6: Yeah. 730 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 731 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: It was one practice in particular, Bill pulled me aside 732 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 1: and was like. 733 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 2: Yo, hey, I want you and I want you to 734 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 2: I want you to be camped. 735 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 1: I see that means He's like, you know, let it 736 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 1: go all right, just be you. It's okay. We brought 737 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,839 Speaker 1: you here to be you. And this is a person 738 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 1: who coached Lawrence Taylor. This is a person who coached 739 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:05,839 Speaker 1: Randy Moss, Tom Brady, Julian Edelman, Rob Gronkowski. All these 740 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 1: are big personalities. These ain't no yes, sir, coach like 741 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,839 Speaker 1: these are people obviously that has to be respected by 742 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 1: not only the players but the coaches, like their whole 743 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 1: thought process is different. And yeah, he he allowed his 744 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 1: players to be them and that's what I appreciate it 745 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:26,320 Speaker 1: the most. 746 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 4: So when you look in college and in the NFL, 747 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 4: not so much the NFL, but who's who's the next Cam? 748 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 2: Don't do that? 749 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 4: I'm a do it because people always do it to me. 750 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,799 Speaker 4: Ye sure, And I respect you as a legend. You 751 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 4: play it and what you did. Like people have different 752 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 4: definition legends, but where we come from, you're definitely a legend. 753 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 4: So I know you don't want me to ask you. 754 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 4: We'll go to ask you who's the next camdwt C 755 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:51,760 Speaker 4: J Strout. 756 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 5: We played different so that's physically there's no one like you, Like. 757 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 1: We got so many similarities, cause it's like, you know, 758 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 1: hack a shack right. I go back and I said, man, 759 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 1: it was penalties that I never got. 760 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 5: Ever, I was going to ask you, like, what is 761 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,240 Speaker 5: the downside of being dominant? The blowback of being big? 762 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 5: Where like I feel like you both were like, oh 763 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 5: they could handle it. 764 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 4: That's what it was. Yeah, exactly what it was. 765 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 2: It's like, come on, like there was a rule or 766 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 2: there still is the rule. 767 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if they change it or not. It's 768 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 1: discretionary to the referee, whether or not whether it's. 769 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. It's one of those situations 770 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 2: that it's like. 771 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 1: Bro, that's a file. I don't care if it's it's 772 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: thirty two, thirty four, twenty four, eight, twenty three, nine, 773 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 1: ten other players get the same thing, but one of 774 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 1: them don't get that file. 775 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 5: And you guys not get upset about that? 776 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 10: Who say you don't? That's a good point, you know 777 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 10: what I'm saying. I was trying to win. I was 778 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 10: trying to shut people up because you know, especially when 779 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 10: I first got to l A, we kept we kept 780 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 10: getting swept, and you know how it is when you 781 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 10: don't win, people start to say, oh, he's great, but 782 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 10: is he really great? So I'm like, you know what, 783 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 10: let me suck it up and just let me get one. 784 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 10: But then after I got one, and oh, you can't 785 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,319 Speaker 10: get two, but I think you still talking. They get two, 786 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 10: you can't get three. And if they get three, I 787 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 10: get trade. You can't get four and have to get 788 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 10: forward in the age, start getting it. See, I told you, 789 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,279 Speaker 10: I told you check check. He ain't super anymore. The 790 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 10: other cats like it's just you know, for guys like us, 791 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 10: just just no, never in it. But I think I 792 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 10: think it motivated us to, you know, be who we are. 793 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 10: Definitely definitely don't motivate me. But you think you're slick 794 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 10: and answer my question? Who the next camp? I thought 795 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 10: I forgot about that question. 796 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,319 Speaker 2: No, but I got a question for you though. No, 797 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 2: but I don't. I don't think that it is. 798 00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 1: And you know, even for coaches, even let's take the 799 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 1: Patriot experience, there are still times where I was like, yo, 800 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,359 Speaker 1: y'all gotta let me be. I feel comfortable with the 801 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:15,319 Speaker 1: ball in my hands. Some guys need that brouh, give 802 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 1: me the ball. I feel comfortable whether running or putting 803 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 1: it in my hands. I'm not the quarterback that hands 804 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,400 Speaker 1: off for first down, hands off for second down. Now 805 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 1: I gotta throw the third down. No, I'm the quarterback 806 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 1: that runs on first down, runs on second down, and 807 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 1: can throw or run again on third. 808 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:30,839 Speaker 2: Now. 809 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 1: That's how I stay engaged in the game. That's like 810 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 1: Pop Borner, It's like one of those players it's like, 811 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 1: give it to camp, give it to them again, give 812 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 1: it to them to the left side. 813 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 2: They ain't gonna never think this won't come in. We're 814 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:41,839 Speaker 2: gonna give it to them on the right side. 815 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 1: I was that player, so it never changed when I 816 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 1: got to the next level or the next level. And 817 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 1: that's how I just felt like I was just involved 818 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 1: in the game. And then if I was not, if 819 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,880 Speaker 1: I didn't have the ball in my hand and allow 820 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 1: other players to get involved, that kind of distanced me 821 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 1: from that. But I would say, Josh Allen, you know, 822 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,479 Speaker 1: and Lamar is just in the class of his own. 823 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 1: I mean I put Lamar in vic kind of yes, 824 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 1: in that the same type of Broald. But other than that, 825 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 1: that's probably the only person I got a question for 826 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 1: you those I answer your question, Yes you did? You 827 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 1: always do? Brother, it's a two part when did before 828 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 1: you go? You sure you don't want to save it 829 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 1: for your podcast? Oh, listen, one thing about me? I 830 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 1: do my homework, got it, I got you. I'll give 831 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,320 Speaker 1: you this one, all right, cool, let's do it. 832 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:46,920 Speaker 2: I give you this. 833 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 1: I think to the hooks common la no like for sure, 834 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 1: Like I'm a person who I study my opponent, you know, 835 00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:58,879 Speaker 1: and that's not in a derogatory way. 836 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 2: That's just how I prepare right in the arena. So 837 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:08,400 Speaker 2: for you two parts. 838 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:14,760 Speaker 1: What age Tom team with Shack personally feeling like can't 839 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 1: nobody tell me? That's one? And number two? What was 840 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 1: your most perfect game? 841 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 4: Let me go to the number two first. My most perfect 842 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,919 Speaker 4: game was the birthday game where it hit sixty one points. 843 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,359 Speaker 4: But it wasn't supposed to be perfect because I don't 844 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,359 Speaker 4: know if you had a ritual, but I always had 845 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:41,759 Speaker 4: a ritual. So my ritual wake up at eight, go 846 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 4: to shoot around to ten, come home twelve, sleep from 847 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,879 Speaker 4: twelve to four, take the same route, get to the game. 848 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,840 Speaker 4: But it's my birthday. We in La, so you already know, 849 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:56,760 Speaker 4: and we're playing the Bump Clippers. I'm partying tonight the ritual. 850 00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,359 Speaker 4: I'm meeting with club ownerless, meeting with drink distriper. I'm 851 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 4: sitting the party up. So I didn't really get no rests. 852 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,239 Speaker 4: So I home in three, take a shower. I got 853 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,719 Speaker 4: to get back and run, so I'm tired. So the 854 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:12,959 Speaker 4: Clippers they come out smoking us. So now everybody looking 855 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 4: at me to play. And then before that, I asked 856 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 4: them twenty tickets, and they charged me because it's like 857 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 4: Stapleson was my when I asked the ticket, I want tickets, 858 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 4: it ain't, but they charged me. So now I was 859 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 4: already mad about that. Now we losing to everybody looking 860 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,600 Speaker 4: at me, and my uncle Jerome sapt by the bench. 861 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 4: He chick smacking my up. You gotta go today. So 862 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,840 Speaker 4: now playing, and I didn't realize Kareem abdu Jabbar was 863 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,880 Speaker 4: assistant coach for the Clippers. 864 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:43,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 865 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:44,839 Speaker 4: I never knew he was over there. So one time 866 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 4: I get it and I looked bad. I'm like, oh, 867 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,879 Speaker 4: that's Kareem. But he got it head down. I said, 868 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,879 Speaker 4: you ain't gonna you ain't gonna me. Yeah, you ain't 869 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,719 Speaker 4: gonna look at me, Kareem. So I shoot a little skyhooker, 870 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,719 Speaker 4: go and cry, go Craig. He put his head down. 871 00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 4: So then during the timeout, I'm like this, look at me. 872 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 4: So then and I think it was Michael Alikawande. Kareem 873 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,560 Speaker 4: was telling him how to stop me, like keep doing. 874 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 4: I said, Oh, I told him say, hey, don't nobody 875 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 4: shoot and give me the ball? What Phil Jackson say 876 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 4: give me? So I was and I just kept going. 877 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 4: And my free throws hit and I got my little 878 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 4: elbow in. I was shooting at free throws mask. That's 879 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:27,400 Speaker 4: that I felt like I was shock. Earlier on in Orlando, 880 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,239 Speaker 4: I knew I could compete. You know that we we 881 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,720 Speaker 4: had a segment where I said, when I first met Jordan, 882 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,439 Speaker 4: I was terrified because, like, you know how you talked 883 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,760 Speaker 4: about that Michael Vick poster. I had the Jordan poster. 884 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 4: So when we went to Chicago and I came out 885 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,279 Speaker 4: and he did a move and it was perfect, I 886 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 4: was like damn, and the crowd was going crazy. So 887 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,880 Speaker 4: then he come one time and he shoot and I 888 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,760 Speaker 4: almost blocked him, and I was like, oh, this is human. 889 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 4: So that kind of gone down. But I was also 890 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,239 Speaker 4: terrified by Patrick Ewan with your hand out. So we 891 00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 4: go to the Knicks, give me a fist. We go 892 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 4: to the next I'm from Jersey, so we got the 893 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,480 Speaker 4: whole family there and I'm kind of nervous for the game. 894 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 4: I don't know what I'm gonna do, but I ain't 895 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,359 Speaker 4: gonna be scared. So I was like, hey, mister youan 896 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,320 Speaker 4: nice to meet you. Shut up Brookie in the busher 897 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 4: now trying to punk me. I like, so I look 898 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:21,160 Speaker 4: at my uncle like. So, when I did pretty good 899 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,239 Speaker 4: against Patrick, I knew I could play so then, but 900 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,320 Speaker 4: then when I got to LA and we was getting swept, 901 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:30,520 Speaker 4: that's still how doubts. But then when Phil came he said, 902 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,399 Speaker 4: I only hey man, I'm only here because of you. 903 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,440 Speaker 4: Like what you mean because me? He said he I'm 904 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,000 Speaker 4: only here because of you. I know if you do it, 905 00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,719 Speaker 4: I tell you we can win. I said, okay, what's 906 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 4: the first thing you need to do. You need to 907 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 4: stop rapping and doing commercials. I was like, Phil, you 908 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 4: with the money though, he was like, hey, man, if 909 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,920 Speaker 4: you do that, we'll win. So I always knew I 910 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 4: could play compete, but I knew. I was shocked when 911 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,719 Speaker 4: I got to LA and when Phil came in and 912 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 4: solidified it. Because I always tell people, if you get 913 00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,520 Speaker 4: a coach with a great resume, the players will always respect. Yeah, 914 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,279 Speaker 4: because I played for a lot of coaches in time, 915 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 4: I was down by one, I think, and then you know, 916 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:10,600 Speaker 4: just just don't get done. 917 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,399 Speaker 5: But when I played fool collected, I feel it was cool. 918 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 4: So when I played for pill Phil and Pat, I 919 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,200 Speaker 4: knew that, you know, we had a chance to win. 920 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,800 Speaker 5: There are so many correlations between you two. It's wild 921 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,319 Speaker 5: Phil and Bill the stature on the court. This is 922 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,799 Speaker 5: coming out later, but we were recording this on leap Day, 923 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,319 Speaker 5: February twenty ninth. I don't know if you know this. 924 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:34,319 Speaker 5: That is supposedly the birthday of Superman, February twenty ninth. 925 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,960 Speaker 4: Ought to know that you were Superman? You were Superman? 926 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,719 Speaker 4: And why you like Superman? You want me to go first, yes, sir. 927 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,880 Speaker 4: So when the movie first came out, first time in 928 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,480 Speaker 4: the movie theater, and I've seen it run run faster 929 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 4: than the train. That's the only thing I remember. In Jersey, 930 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,440 Speaker 4: I lived by the train yard. So one day that 931 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,400 Speaker 4: train was coming and I took off and then I 932 00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 4: probably was way ahead of the train. That probably, but 933 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,319 Speaker 4: I took over it and't catch up. But then I 934 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,919 Speaker 4: just pun and then I crossed up. I was like, oh, 935 00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:07,960 Speaker 4: I'm Superman. That's why I like Superman. 936 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:09,080 Speaker 5: All from the train. 937 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,880 Speaker 4: All from the train, because he ran the train. I 938 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:13,919 Speaker 4: ran the train, and I was and I was since 939 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,399 Speaker 4: four or five years old. Why you like Superman? It 940 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,040 Speaker 4: was self important. 941 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 1: I liked the dinosaur more so when I was in 942 00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:30,279 Speaker 1: college Albura Trooper Taylor. We was playing Kentucky and rest 943 00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,759 Speaker 1: in Peace. He was like, playing the Lakers, We're gonna 944 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:40,920 Speaker 1: get that Kobe, the Cavaliers, giving that Lebron Alburn Tigers, 945 00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:42,839 Speaker 1: We're gonna get at Cam Newton. 946 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,160 Speaker 2: You're a dinosaur. You would extinct, you would never be 947 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,760 Speaker 2: duplicated again. And I thought that one was gonna stick, 948 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:51,280 Speaker 2: but it didn't. 949 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,480 Speaker 1: Then when I got to the lead, they just said 950 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:56,640 Speaker 1: Superman because he does a lot. 951 00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,560 Speaker 2: And then I was like, well, what about Dwight Howard? 952 00:47:58,719 --> 00:47:59,960 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? What about shame? 953 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:04,880 Speaker 5: God say that this interview is going so well. 954 00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:09,359 Speaker 10: There's be no, it's just just. 955 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,120 Speaker 2: You know, y'all. 956 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,200 Speaker 1: See that's the thing about media, like you got to 957 00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:15,480 Speaker 1: get to people what they want to hear. 958 00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,160 Speaker 5: So souse on purpose. 959 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,040 Speaker 2: I didn't. I was still I was still telling. 960 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,480 Speaker 5: My story, he said, Dwight Man. 961 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,239 Speaker 1: I was still. I was still telling my story though. 962 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,400 Speaker 1: And if you really know Superman, his father name is 963 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:30,080 Speaker 1: my middle name. 964 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:35,000 Speaker 2: M hmm Jerrell. Yeah. So I was like, yo, it 965 00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:35,719 Speaker 2: was meant to be. 966 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,480 Speaker 5: But I did love his celebration though. 967 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:41,839 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it was opening up. 968 00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,040 Speaker 5: I want to ask both of you, because both of 969 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,719 Speaker 5: you when you played, you own sports media, and now 970 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:52,439 Speaker 5: you're in sports media. What is it like from your 971 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,400 Speaker 5: guys perspective? What we have going on right now? 972 00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:59,400 Speaker 4: What people don't understand, Like I throw this word out 973 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,799 Speaker 4: because they need to understand G fourteen classification. So if 974 00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,239 Speaker 4: you were great like a shack and a cam, we 975 00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,920 Speaker 4: have G fourteen classification to say whatever you want, yes, 976 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,400 Speaker 4: because we've been there and we've done that levels you know, 977 00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,560 Speaker 4: since high school, high school, college and the pros. We've 978 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,440 Speaker 4: been there and done that. So when we say something, 979 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:22,120 Speaker 4: don't always take it personal. Don't always take personal. Like 980 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,200 Speaker 4: he knows how to be a pressure quarterback in the 981 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,239 Speaker 4: Super Bowl. He knows all that, so he's allowed to 982 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,360 Speaker 4: speak on that. But a lot of times when he speaks, 983 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,080 Speaker 4: people get sensitive. A lot of times when I speak 984 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,680 Speaker 4: people against Senstent. But you need to understand G fourteen classification. 985 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:36,880 Speaker 4: Now it's a lot of dudes who have no G 986 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,680 Speaker 4: fourteen classification, like mad Dog, Like, what the do you 987 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,680 Speaker 4: know about quarterback? What you know about being a bit? Like, 988 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:48,200 Speaker 4: so shut the up, mad Dog. Stick to the traditional 989 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:49,759 Speaker 4: media when they come to sports. You don't know what 990 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,440 Speaker 4: you're talking about. I do see all is writing in 991 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,520 Speaker 4: the wall. That's me. Oh he did, that's him. So 992 00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,200 Speaker 4: that's what these players and these people need to understand. 993 00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,360 Speaker 4: We have G fourteen Lass, I could showp my badge 994 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,719 Speaker 4: and have a meeting with the President of the United 995 00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:05,880 Speaker 4: States because I have G fourteen lester k. That's what 996 00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,080 Speaker 4: y'all need to understand, period. And all you fans, y'all 997 00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,840 Speaker 4: don't know what we know. You know, you can't watch 998 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,440 Speaker 4: TV and see some think you know what we know. 999 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,360 Speaker 4: You can't do it. It'll never happen. 1000 00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is true. 1001 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,040 Speaker 1: I think we're living in the golden age of athlete 1002 00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:32,840 Speaker 1: generated content. More than any other time in sports, people 1003 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:33,560 Speaker 1: tune in. 1004 00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:38,680 Speaker 2: To podcasts live. This is a podcast epidemic. Damn there. 1005 00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:40,120 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Everybody got it. You get 1006 00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:41,440 Speaker 2: a podcast, you get a podcast. 1007 00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,920 Speaker 1: But the truth of the matter is people are leaning 1008 00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,880 Speaker 1: into receiving their content in a different way, digesting it 1009 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:53,239 Speaker 1: in a different way. If I want to hear about basketball, 1010 00:50:54,640 --> 00:51:02,080 Speaker 1: I want to hear it from Shaquille O'Neill, not respectfully, 1011 00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:02,920 Speaker 1: not stephen A. 1012 00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:03,440 Speaker 2: Smith. 1013 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:07,680 Speaker 1: And stephen A is a good guy, but it's like, 1014 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,400 Speaker 1: who are you comparing apples to apples? Or you know 1015 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:15,279 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Where Yeah, am I a fan of 1016 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,560 Speaker 1: Scott Van Pelt? Am I a fan of you know 1017 00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,040 Speaker 1: the rest in Peter Stewart Scott, Yeah, yeah. Do I 1018 00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:25,920 Speaker 1: want to suppress their their their road to to that? No, 1019 00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,960 Speaker 1: by no means. But if you're you're talking about real emotions, 1020 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:34,319 Speaker 1: real preparations, real feelings, real experiences, you're going straight to 1021 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:34,880 Speaker 1: the source. 1022 00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:38,760 Speaker 2: And I think the thing. 1023 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:42,840 Speaker 1: That I've marveled that he's done an excellent job of 1024 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:46,680 Speaker 1: doing that. I'm just now getting out. You always see, Shaq, 1025 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:53,160 Speaker 1: I went to office depot, So. 1026 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,160 Speaker 2: Listen to me. I'm going down. 1027 00:51:56,239 --> 00:52:01,680 Speaker 1: I'm from Atlanta now tenth Street and George's one hundred Shack, 1028 00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:07,600 Speaker 1: Papa John's. He's always positioned himself to stay relevant. And 1029 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:13,920 Speaker 1: my fear was, I don't really want to oversaturate myself, 1030 00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,120 Speaker 1: and that ain't where I'm from. It's just like, bro, 1031 00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:20,200 Speaker 1: you want to be the mystique. You want to be 1032 00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:23,680 Speaker 1: the mysterious person, not the person that's always everywhere. But 1033 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:27,120 Speaker 1: now it's like, yo, I go from a situation the 1034 00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,279 Speaker 1: hunted where offers come left and right, like yo, Hey 1035 00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,800 Speaker 1: you know Shack, Yeah, you know Cam Like let's bose 1036 00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,360 Speaker 1: blah like, let's get him here, Let's give him an offer, 1037 00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:39,560 Speaker 1: give him equity. Now I'm the hunter, not so relevant 1038 00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,160 Speaker 1: on them, feel but still trying to generate as much 1039 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:43,120 Speaker 1: buzz as possible. 1040 00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:44,840 Speaker 2: Now you got to go to these meetings. Now you 1041 00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:45,760 Speaker 2: got to go to these. 1042 00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,160 Speaker 1: Different brands and say, hey, I want you to give 1043 00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,280 Speaker 1: be a presenting sponsor for my podcast. 1044 00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, but why what are your numbers? What does it 1045 00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:54,200 Speaker 2: analytics say? So? 1046 00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,560 Speaker 1: I also had a fear of going to a major 1047 00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,480 Speaker 1: network because I feel like I was gonna be muzzle, 1048 00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:03,480 Speaker 1: you know, like when you don't. 1049 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:06,320 Speaker 5: Think people need to go to networks as much anymore. 1050 00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:12,520 Speaker 1: I literally have been viral for good reasons and bad 1051 00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:17,959 Speaker 1: reasons over the span of three months than any other athlete, 1052 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:23,560 Speaker 1: from the game manager, the game changer, to Charleston White. 1053 00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:25,680 Speaker 5: To kissing You. 1054 00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:31,640 Speaker 1: I'll be listen to un squabble a squabble like it's 1055 00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:36,360 Speaker 1: like yo, but that's the thing. And through it all, 1056 00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,520 Speaker 1: I want to give people perspective and say, like, yo, 1057 00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:40,160 Speaker 1: let me tell. 1058 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:41,160 Speaker 2: You how I feel about it. 1059 00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,560 Speaker 1: Because in the nineties, in the early really two thousands, 1060 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:48,160 Speaker 1: athletes didn't you had agents for that, you had publicists 1061 00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,240 Speaker 1: for that you had this, and I'm not the person 1062 00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,479 Speaker 1: who wants to be perfect. I want somebody to learn 1063 00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,200 Speaker 1: from me and say, like, damn, he up right, there 1064 00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:57,120 Speaker 1: do I got to get better. 1065 00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,439 Speaker 4: I've never heard nobody say that, but that's how I think. 1066 00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,800 Speaker 4: Like I tell my people all the time, images reality. 1067 00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,920 Speaker 4: Don't try to create an image from me. Yeah, that's crazy, 1068 00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:08,760 Speaker 4: you said, Did we just become best friends? 1069 00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:15,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, karate in the garage? Yeah, one last thing I 1070 00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:19,200 Speaker 5: wanted to get to. The NBA, unlike any other sport, 1071 00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,680 Speaker 5: has turned fashion. The walk to the arena has turned 1072 00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:23,360 Speaker 5: into a runway. 1073 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:24,440 Speaker 4: No fashion. 1074 00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,120 Speaker 5: I have a few friends in the fashion industry and 1075 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,880 Speaker 5: they say that what you just said. We don't have 1076 00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,040 Speaker 5: a lot of stylish NBA players. We have a lot 1077 00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,560 Speaker 5: of NBA players with stylists. There are a few that 1078 00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,320 Speaker 5: I want to give credit to, Like I think Jordan 1079 00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:41,080 Speaker 5: Clarkson has his own unique style to him shack shaking 1080 00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:45,080 Speaker 5: his head. You have always been someone that has not 1081 00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:48,120 Speaker 5: just like lit the way, but really paved your own 1082 00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,680 Speaker 5: way in that world. What is your view of the 1083 00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:54,440 Speaker 5: NBA style vibe that's happening right now. 1084 00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,400 Speaker 1: I've said this in the past, but I think about 1085 00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,520 Speaker 1: if you have a stylist and no disrespect to no stylist. 1086 00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:04,359 Speaker 2: It's almost like a rapper having a ghostwriter, right. 1087 00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:10,560 Speaker 1: But the great stylists they lean into what their client likes. 1088 00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,640 Speaker 1: It's too many guys that look alike. It's too many 1089 00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:19,040 Speaker 1: styles that just mimic each other. And really, when I 1090 00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,040 Speaker 1: when I came into the league at around twenty eleven, 1091 00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:28,000 Speaker 1: I just remember watching Lebron, you know, and then and 1092 00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,480 Speaker 1: then and then like he was, you. 1093 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,120 Speaker 5: Know, suit with the shorts and all that. 1094 00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,880 Speaker 1: It's just a lot of different opportunities to be solved 1095 00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:39,879 Speaker 1: with the fashion. As as athletes, you're not able to 1096 00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:43,960 Speaker 1: express what you really like. Like I didn't know Shaq 1097 00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,000 Speaker 1: like Hukah. I didn't know Shaq like to be a DJ. 1098 00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,200 Speaker 1: I didn't know Shaq knew how to act. Like you 1099 00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,279 Speaker 1: have to go out on these things and you have 1100 00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,960 Speaker 1: to show like this is what I really like. Some 1101 00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:56,040 Speaker 1: guys like art, some guys like fashion, some guys like Bacon, 1102 00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,000 Speaker 1: some guys like you know really you know zend out 1103 00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,480 Speaker 1: you know different. So for me, I was like, yo, 1104 00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,239 Speaker 1: fashion for me is a form of expression, you know 1105 00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:10,160 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And I felt like the NBA in 1106 00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:13,280 Speaker 1: some way had it figured out because they will highlight 1107 00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:14,240 Speaker 1: the walk up. 1108 00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,759 Speaker 2: You know next on NBA tonight, Like. 1109 00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,479 Speaker 5: Now NFL, we finally got the walk up. I feel 1110 00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,080 Speaker 5: like the walk to the plane has become the runway 1111 00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:22,960 Speaker 5: in the NFL. 1112 00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,600 Speaker 2: But this is I thought about it like this. I 1113 00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:26,280 Speaker 2: said to myself. 1114 00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:31,200 Speaker 1: I said, Yo, Lebron has eighty two opportunities to showcase 1115 00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:32,000 Speaker 1: his fashion, and. 1116 00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:33,520 Speaker 5: You have sixteen fits. 1117 00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,600 Speaker 1: I only got sixteen, So I got to make them 1118 00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,799 Speaker 1: all bangers. I got to have somebody talking about it, 1119 00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:44,040 Speaker 1: and you know, the rituals for the game, like I'm 1120 00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:47,160 Speaker 1: telling you how I'm coming, like yo, wear black. I'm 1121 00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,759 Speaker 1: where I'm saying something. Then you got to have the 1122 00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,160 Speaker 1: cleats too, So now you got. 1123 00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:53,920 Speaker 5: You were the first and the cleat revolution. 1124 00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,960 Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. So a lot of things. It's just 1125 00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:00,240 Speaker 1: all about expression. So I don't even really like talking 1126 00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,080 Speaker 1: closer to the game, like I'm just. 1127 00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,279 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I mean, I mean, I'm about to 1128 00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:06,839 Speaker 2: rob a bank. 1129 00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:10,440 Speaker 5: Mentality, you know, impressed her you with Shack's pajama pants today. 1130 00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:12,640 Speaker 4: He likes my style because I'm just like him, where 1131 00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:14,120 Speaker 4: what I want whatever? 1132 00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:18,320 Speaker 2: And that's all fashion, not on you. 1133 00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,680 Speaker 4: Look good in this. But your man, that's my style 1134 00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,560 Speaker 4: right there, your boy, I mean, your man is clean. 1135 00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:26,680 Speaker 4: Your man look like a lawyer. 1136 00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:27,760 Speaker 5: You have everyone a nickname. 1137 00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,520 Speaker 2: It's Peggy. His name is Peggy. 1138 00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,120 Speaker 4: He looked, he looked like he looked like a slim 1139 00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:34,320 Speaker 4: Baron Davis. 1140 00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:36,760 Speaker 2: B d. 1141 00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:41,560 Speaker 4: That's the name. That's my style. That like. You look good, 1142 00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:45,120 Speaker 4: you matched, you look you dope. I couldn't get away 1143 00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,240 Speaker 4: at that. My man right there, that looks good. 1144 00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,680 Speaker 5: You bring it out during All Star weekend, though I 1145 00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,840 Speaker 5: tried to with the hats and everything. All right, we'll see, 1146 00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:54,480 Speaker 5: we'll see the Cam Newton hat on your head of 1147 00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:55,560 Speaker 5: TN T one night y. 1148 00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,840 Speaker 2: You gotta get him the size. But that don't dress 1149 00:57:59,920 --> 00:58:01,960 Speaker 2: like that man. He said he was coming to shot, 1150 00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:04,200 Speaker 2: coming to shat. 1151 00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:08,440 Speaker 1: You know, folks wearing makeup, guys dressing up with pistripe 1152 00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:10,200 Speaker 1: suits and double breast. 1153 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,720 Speaker 4: So yeah, man, I want to say thank you, brother. 1154 00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,520 Speaker 4: I appreciate you. I think you talk about the incident. 1155 00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:19,480 Speaker 4: You know we're gonna we're gonna learn from these things. 1156 00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:21,960 Speaker 4: And I want you to just think about when them 1157 00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:25,200 Speaker 4: kids disrespect you, putting it out because I can tell 1158 00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,640 Speaker 4: you come from a strong family background. My mom and 1159 00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:30,200 Speaker 4: daddy ain't played that. Yeah, talking to a grown up 1160 00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:31,840 Speaker 4: like that. So you just think about that because that 1161 00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:34,240 Speaker 4: happened to me one time. Put that out. You ain't 1162 00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:35,840 Speaker 4: gonna be talking to me great because I'm like you, 1163 00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,680 Speaker 4: I snapped, but we hit a kid. We wrong? You 1164 00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:40,880 Speaker 4: know what you're talking to me? Cregy, get you my camp. 1165 00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:45,920 Speaker 4: Think about that and I love your brother. Appreciate that. Man. 1166 00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:47,480 Speaker 4: Give it up a Cam Newton everybody. 1167 00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:54,920 Speaker 5: So it is now time for everyone's favorite segment, Doctor O'Neill. 1168 00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:57,200 Speaker 5: Fan Advice. If you have a question you like to 1169 00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,320 Speaker 5: ask Doctor O'Neil, you can leave a question of YouTube 1170 00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:01,520 Speaker 5: comments for the episode, or you can send it via 1171 00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:05,480 Speaker 5: askdoctor O'Neill at gmail dot com. It is for entertainment 1172 00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,720 Speaker 5: purposes only. If you follow the advice and it doesn't work, 1173 00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:12,600 Speaker 5: don't know what to tell you. This one comes from 1174 00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:17,600 Speaker 5: Kenya Ka from Wisconsin. Doctor O'Neill, what's your advice for 1175 00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:20,000 Speaker 5: a woman who has raised all of her children as 1176 00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:23,480 Speaker 5: a single parent and now that they're older, I'm ready 1177 00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:26,440 Speaker 5: to travel and explore the world. Should I go? I 1178 00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:27,120 Speaker 5: need advice? 1179 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:31,200 Speaker 4: The answer is yes. I commend you for doing a 1180 00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:34,640 Speaker 4: beautiful job for doing both jobs. I know a lot 1181 00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:39,760 Speaker 4: of women do that. And hopefully your children are healthy 1182 00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,680 Speaker 4: and okay, but yes, reward yourself. 1183 00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:46,800 Speaker 5: Just to ask a follow up for Kenya, k should 1184 00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,000 Speaker 5: she try and have a how Stella got her groove 1185 00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:49,680 Speaker 5: back moment? 1186 00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,040 Speaker 4: Well, you don't know how how old Stella is. You 1187 00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,560 Speaker 4: don't know how well we do know a situation, Kenya. 1188 00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,320 Speaker 5: We know what happened with Stella. She went, she met 1189 00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00,760 Speaker 5: a nice young Caribbean man and had time of her life. 1190 01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:05,040 Speaker 4: Did they get married? Did you she should have fun? 1191 01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:06,920 Speaker 4: She should be safe and have fun and do what 1192 01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:08,840 Speaker 4: she likes. Okay. 1193 01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:10,760 Speaker 5: I was gonna ask if she should be a sugar mama, 1194 01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:15,840 Speaker 5: but go ahead, I feel like you would like I don't. 1195 01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,160 Speaker 5: Should she have been? Should she become a sugar mama 1196 01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:22,760 Speaker 5: in her old age? I say, yes, you do. And 1197 01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:24,880 Speaker 5: I got a guy for He wears blue jeans and 1198 01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:29,880 Speaker 5: turquoise shorts, and he has waves and he looks like 1199 01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:36,600 Speaker 5: a dark skinned Dominican. All right, we do. 1200 01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:42,560 Speaker 4: Have in the street. Name is Frederico. Here, you come here, Frederico, Hey, Keny, 1201 01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:48,600 Speaker 4: I guys come here, Frederico, Hey, Kenya. I got somebody. 1202 01:00:50,600 --> 01:01:25,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was like, well, what about da white Howard. 1203 01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:29,440 Speaker 5: God, why would you say that this interview is going 1204 01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:30,040 Speaker 5: so well.