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There 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:46.280 was there was a lot of graphic detail about uh 0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:53.920 spos uh remember, which apparently was enveloped in some sort 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:57.720 of thing that would like unfurl I picture like a corkscrew, 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:01.559 like a pig. Anyway, if they're looking for something really 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:03.840 off to be back, I would look up the Star 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:07.080 Trek fan fiction. And if you guys don't forget, we 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:10.720 have bonus episodes on Patreon, and particularly as we're going 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:14.959 with Paradise ending, we are about to We've only done 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:18.320 one episode so far on Bachelor Australia and you can 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:20.520 if you're on our Patreon page, you can watch the 0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:25.560 episodes on there. So once, once Um Paradise ends, we're 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:28.920 going to continue UM with Brian Sophie and we're going 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:32.480 to watch Bachelor Australia. It's so fun. Mattie Jay is adorable, 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:38.480 right Anna? Yes? He is great. Have you ever seen 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:42.440 the video for this? Use you can hold this put down? 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:48.240 Did you take notes? My god, Jennifer Race this story. 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:57.160 This is a genetics firepower of Marius MoMA's accepted your 0:02:57.240 --> 0:03:01.320 son's nickname and signer email j J. I got a 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:10.600 hem up with the first time in my life. Hello Lona, 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:13.360 what you accept this rose? My name is Arna Marine. 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:17.440 We are a very special podcast today because I am 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:22.639 sitting here with the person who was born first from 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:34.239 Janner Marine. Ladies and gentlemen, the president CEO CFO strategy. 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:36.960 You gotta hold this near your mouth. You want to 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:40.600 hold it? The chief stir. You don't need the mic. 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:43.000 Stand here we go, you guys who I'm dealing with it. 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:46.080 He has a fancy company called Swift. If you like 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:52.480 bicycles and riding indoors when it's cold out and you 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:55.200 and you want to raise other people, Ladies and gentlemen, 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:59.680 My brother Folca Aluric will help marine in the seconds. 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:04.360 I'm the third, Your father was the third. Take two full? 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:09.600 So did did you do you ever hear the story? 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:13.680 I may have you may have heard this. Hello, hello everyone. 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:17.560 So we were so at one point when I was 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:23.760 like twenty ish, it's like last year five whatever, I'm 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:27.479 there with with at home with mom and dad, and 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:30.719 Dad was filling out some sort of form and he 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:33.120 turns to me and he goes, how do you spell 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:37.039 your name again? Kid? Yeah? That sounds that sounds about right. 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:41.080 And I said, I said, okay, First of all, i'm 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:44.760 your son. Yeah, you're supposed to know how to spell 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:48.400 my name. Second of all, we have the exact same name. Yeah. 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:51.479 You were the second and I am the third. Yeah, yeah, 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:53.520 yeah yeah. And then he started to insist that no, 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:55.480 he spelled his differently and something he put a c 0:04:55.720 --> 0:05:00.320 K in all our anyway, Um, okay, side No, Before 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:02.080 we get going, we were I was talking about this. 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:05.760 First of all, we're here in the pod of the 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:10.000 lighting show room, the lighting emporium that is my new house. 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:14.240 I am here with Ana and Katie. We're picking up 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:16.560 paint colors for Katie's new house. Yes, I have been 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:19.520 having so much trouble. Cheese in a green for the office. Um, 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:21.840 if you have a good office screen, he tweeted at me. 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:25.800 By a lot of samples, that's all I can say. Um, okay, 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:28.240 here's what we were saying over So our mom. Her 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:30.599 name is Janet. She's Jane Marie, a little comptrom real 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:33.000 estate for all these summer rental knees. For years, she's 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:35.919 been Janet, which since you had a son, she became 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:37.839 jan Mock because she didn't want to be grandma. She 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:41.200 was jan Mo. And then this summer you were just 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:44.080 hanging out with her and your son started calling her 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:47.240 j J. And I got an email today about Paradise 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:50.680 because she was wondering where Jubilee went, and she signed 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:54.960 it j J. She changed her name to j J 0:05:56.320 --> 0:06:01.600 the other J four. It is a cool name. It's 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:06.120 like j J Watt, j J Abram, Dude, I mean, honestly, 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:08.039 to see it. I will show it to you because 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:11.360 I have known my mom my entire life and to 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:14.640 have never j to see it really come down then 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:18.640 j J. She actually emailed me where okay, where is 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:23.600 And you're like, who that bachelor question? Here's question j J. J. 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:27.320 Whatever happened to the lady Marine, who're the one who 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:29.880 played the cello? I thought she and John were a 0:06:29.920 --> 0:06:33.320 couple and now she disappeared. Did I miss something? J J? 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:36.479 That is what I got from my mom. I have 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:39.400 that same question where I did well know they brought 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:42.920 it up very quickly, where he like on Monday's episode, 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:45.680 we'll get to that. We're gonna get to that. I 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:49.359 was pissed before we get going, I wanted to say, 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:51.880 and this is we're gonna get serious, probably for the 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:58.479 second time ever. Okay, Steve Heightner, who we love. He 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:01.000 as you know, he's come to all of our He's 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:05.960 basically been verbally inappropriate to my mother numerous times on air. 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:10.000 He has come and probably freaked out all these members 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:12.680 from coast to coast. He is one of my very 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:16.960 favorite people in the entire world. I love him so hard. 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:21.160 I am very saddened to say that his little boy, Jack, 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:23.760 who's thirteen years old, had they just found out he 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:27.720 has staged four bone and lung cancer and so we 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:30.840 are is on our We'll put it on our Facebook page, 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:33.520 but there is a go fund me page. Basically. Steve 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:36.480 also lives in Reno, he doesn't live in Los Angeles, 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:40.160 and um, they have to move down here for treatment 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:43.679 for a year. So and even five dollars helps or whatever. 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:46.840 But we just we love our seed. I saw Jack 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:49.600 last week. He's doing well, but it's a long journey. 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:53.040 It's three surgeries and forty weeks of chemo. So anything 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:56.000 that you can give helps, and um, just your prayers 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:57.840 and thoughts for a little Jack. And I'm gonna go 0:07:57.880 --> 0:08:00.640 see them tomorrow. Alissa Milano's gonna go with me. He 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:04.480 loves instatable. I'm like, god, Pleasia, that's like, that's a 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:07.480 little sassy. But you know Jackson, but he's he's just 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:10.360 such a sweet kid. So it looks like a little Heightener, 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:15.120 Oh my god. So and he also Steve's Jack's mom. 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:19.160 Cindy is such a fox and uh, as Heightener put it, 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:22.120 he got the right combo of jeans because he's got 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:25.880 like a personnel, you know, Cindy. Al Alarx spent some 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:27.520 time with Cyndy. I saw her last week and she 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:29.640 was like, say hi to Alaric. I always I always 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:32.199 loved Alaric. He's like, well, I was like, Cindy, height 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:35.960 is easy to like really pretty people well, so in 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:39.760 fact that that's gonna So I don't really watch bashl 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:41.520 in Paradise so much, but I have to say, having 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:45.040 watched it in anticipation of this got me in general 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:48.400 thinking it's a good segue. It's my main thought. It's 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:51.520 just strange watching a collection of very good looking people. Well, 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:53.800 what's fun about the guy that we were asking about? John? 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:57.040 He created the Venmo app? Okay, he's a programmer. He's 0:08:57.080 --> 0:08:59.520 a programmer. So he was the one that said nobody's 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:02.000 better on the answer than a programmer last night. Did 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:03.760 you see that? I did see that, and so he 0:09:03.920 --> 0:09:06.160 in my I'm very protective of him because in my 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:11.840 mind it's like you are Andrew in Paradise. I don't know, 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:15.320 I feel like he's cuter. Well, he became like hired, 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:18.959 he hired his supertrainer. Okay, but you would be sited 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:21.760 if you overall, So, you've never watched Paradise before. You 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:24.000 watched some of them. I remember you watched Um, you 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:27.760 watched Ben Higgins and Jojo and their fantasy sweets, and 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:30.440 you couldn't believe that they got to make out. You 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:32.400 couldn't believe. I'm just sit at the head of the 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:34.360 table and look at everybody. How did you feel about that? 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:36.319 I feel okay about that. Now I can see everyone. 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:43.400 Come closer, come closed. Do you guys need air conditioning? Okay, okay, okay, okay, really, 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:45.199 how do you move? And then you go come close? 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:48.440 And then you'll move I closed to your close. I 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:51.520 felt too close before, but now I need to splee 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:53.800 the D or I can split the difference. Okay, so 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:57.720 we're gonna start. Here's how it works in uh that's 0:09:58.160 --> 0:10:01.480 when I started doing. H I do theater. I'm not 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:03.959 that fancy, like when I've done please, like most of 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:05.880 the people have gone to like Juilliard or whatever, and 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:08.640 so somehow like you know, this clown has like snuck 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:10.840 ellen too like, and I never know when they're like 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:13.319 it's like stage right or stage life. I literally don't 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:16.080 know what they're talking about. So then and so thankfully 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:17.719 like the stage managers will like kind of point and 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:20.079 tell me which way to go. But uh so then 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:23.640 the guy oftentimes I'll be like too much or I'm 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:27.480 often too much, and so so then I started saying, 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:29.480 like you want to slew the d slew the day 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:33.120 and apparently the director of the like he actually used 0:10:33.160 --> 0:10:36.320 it with like you know some grand dum he like 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:39.080 these stage managers have told me after the after he 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:41.480 worked with me, he told some like you know, Kate 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:45.080 Burton or somebody to splee the day when like split 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:48.040 the diff. Anyway, there we go. That's my story about 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:53.280 sneaking into things that you're not quite qualified for. Um, overall, 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:57.160 did you enjoy this show? Sure? Yes I did. It's 0:10:57.200 --> 0:10:59.680 so fun, isn't it. It's it is It is fun 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:04.000 to watch beautiful people squirm. Yeah, you know. So this 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:05.920 is a different thing because normally, when we go through 0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:09.080 episodes of like a pair of The Bachelor of the Bachelorette, 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:11.400 they're sort of a beginning, middle, and end. This is 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:13.840 sort of, as you can see, is a crazy scramble 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:17.200 like free for all, and there's numerous couple threads. Let's 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:19.400 talk about the douchiest out of the gate. Let's discuss 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:24.319 this awful Leo. Let's talk about grocery store Joe and Kendall. 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:27.760 First of all, I love grocery store Job. He's the 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:31.120 best I love. There's a reason that every single guy there, 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:33.560 every single person there, is obsessed with him, Like he 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:36.120 just is the most popular person there now. Just so 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:38.400 you know, this is a guy that when he went 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:41.120 on the Bachelorette, he got cut. He didn't even get 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:44.199 to unpack. He got cut the night he exited the limb, 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:47.079 so he's never been through. He was okay, I'm you know, I'm. 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:50.079 They did his little video thing, like they only choose 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:52.160 like five people to do videos here. He was one 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:53.400 of them. So we thought he was going to be 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:57.120 there for a while. So he got cut immediately, and 0:11:57.280 --> 0:12:01.120 um and and so he has not been to any 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:02.679 this so he's like, oh my god, I meted to 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:06.520 Mexico and like and like so and the girl that 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:10.560 he's Kendall, she is like a taxidermy artist. So like 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:12.280 the fact that it's like this dude who just sells 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:15.480 grocer from Chicago, and then you've got like this taxidermy girl, 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:20.000 which is a really classy job. Taxidermy art didn't Katie's 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:24.680 didn't Katie's, Pretzel Boy didn't. He Pretzel Boy started making 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:28.160 taxidermy art. I did not know that he did. He 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:31.640 like he lost his marbles and started making taxidero. He 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:34.880 was this guy that when when we were like twenty two, 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:37.240 every girl wanted to make out with this dude in 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:40.120 Union Square that sold pretzels at the Pretzels cart, and 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:43.240 he did. He made out with Karina, Katie, all of them. 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:45.120 He was super hot. He was in like a John 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:47.600 Waters movie once he was super hot and then he 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:50.640 like made he made out with everybody sold pretzels for years. 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:54.240 Once again getting back to the idea that like, life 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:56.560 is different for super hot people. That's the thing I 0:12:56.600 --> 0:12:59.599 typically don't think about this, but watching their Bachelor, I 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:02.640 really or whatever, that's what paradise that some paradise. It 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:05.480 really kind of drove home to me that like that, 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:08.840 you know, life is just different for super hot it 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:13.040 is way different for everybody. Um So here we go. 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:17.000 We have Kendall says, I feel like, um we we 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:18.960 start off the episode and she's saying to Joe, I 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:21.160 feel like death by a tiger is a death that 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:24.920 I can accept. That was just like an overheard I 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:27.760 missed that one. Did you guys hear that? I heard 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:30.680 that and I didn't. That's things I'm so used to Kendall. Now, 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:34.480 I was like, go on, like I didn't even think twice. Yeah, yeah, 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:37.360 that was Yeah, that's exactly I have to say. Overall, 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:40.040 I was a little mad at Kendall. I felt like 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:43.560 the episode, yeah, I was like when she was I was. 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:47.520 I got mad at her when she kissed John, Yes, 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:49.319 I was like, where the fund did you do that? 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:52.320 Feel Like after all of that, when after and we'll 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:55.199 get like when Leo was being the worst, and we'll 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:57.720 get there, like and then so she's like, oh, I 0:13:57.720 --> 0:13:59.280 don't know why. I just fight it because it was 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:00.840 because I like him so much, And then you go 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:04.120 and kiss John, Like what what the what are you doing? 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:08.080 I feel like I've never been in a situation where 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:10.800 if a guy liked me, I try like, I'm just 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:14.360 like you said, it's crazy these people, the lives they 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:17.040 live with. They're like, Wow, I'm like so desired that 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:18.600 I have all these dudes that I can just like 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:21.200 screw up your relationship and fall into another one where 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:24.080 it's like, what if a guy likes you, Like I'm like, 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:26.720 oh my god, Like I'm not going to hurt him 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:32.600 by making out with another dude. Kissed John? She kissed John? 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:35.640 She said, he kissed Maybe you can see afterwards like 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:39.720 she was tearing up, like she regretted it immediately, but 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:44.800 she'd already was immediately regretting Leo. And then and then 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:46.680 when it maybe I was like, oh girl, what are 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:49.240 you doing? Don't sabotage this? Oh what did you think 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:52.760 of all that? I somehow missed the part where she 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:58.960 kissed John. I I but Leo, Oh my god, Leo. 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:02.520 So here's the thing, Leo. We loved Leo on the Bachelorette. 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:07.240 And it's so terrifying how awful he is, how wrong 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:11.200 we had he was. He was you know, he's um well, yeah, 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:14.360 he was charming on the Bachelorette. He had he gave 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:18.320 a great like this isn't really that was the most 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:22.720 manipulating when he twisted it, like when he when he 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:24.640 got caught and he went on the war path and 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:28.840 he's in the pool, in the pool like as crazy 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:31.880 as Chad, like as reedy and crazy as Chad. And 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:35.440 it was worse, Yeah, because it was like really weirdly immature, 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:37.800 Like it was the weirdest thing. It's like schoolyard drop 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:43.160 like they're kissing, go to Kenny and then like I'm 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:49.760 watching Kevin just be like it was really I'm gonna 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:51.760 start by saying, I think he looks like a very 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:55.160 hairy leave Shreiber. Oh, that's a really good Yes, You're 0:15:57.000 --> 0:15:59.160 at one point. I feel like Leave has a lot 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:01.520 of hair on his chest. He's not Leave is not 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:03.720 a non hairy person, but I feel like I feel 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:07.320 like Leo's waxed his chest and growing all and like 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:09.920 and like done all the hair and Leave it like 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:12.800 growing all the chest and then trimmedle there. I think 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:19.480 you're right, Yeah, but yeah, I don't know anybody who 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:21.400 goes who goes out of the way to look like 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:24.960 Tarzan like that, And I sort of feel like you 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:30.080 have to start there just saying, you know, I don't 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:33.000 know if I'm going to trust this person. He also 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:35.920 looks like Tarzan and was wearing a cheetah blouse. But 0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:39.480 on the on the Bachelor, he was like so like 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:42.480 nice and y, but I guess pronouncing that no one 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:46.120 had the chance to really wrong him to bring that 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:49.120 out of him. It also was like he knew he 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:52.800 wasn't he knew he wasn't her type, so he had 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:56.800 no So I think this was like where them ladies 0:16:56.880 --> 0:17:00.640 at he works at He's in the water World right, 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:02.680 He's in the water World show at Universal City, and 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:05.080 he's a stunt man. And he's does softwork, does soft 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:06.840 core porn, but that they don't say that on but 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:09.920 we know no one acknowledges that when we're all like okay, 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:13.040 so like and then he was so awful and he 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:17.680 was like you're a really big fake er, you're as yeah, 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:20.520 like it was. It was it was tough to watch, 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:24.679 right because he got caught and he was angry at 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:28.520 everybody except himself. Is that actually what gas lighting is? That? 0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:30.520 I just is that the depth like what he did 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:32.879 to her lighting her? I think so he was trying 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:35.440 to she was gaslighting. I'm confused by was like when 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:38.679 you use like manipulative tactics to try and convince someone 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:42.040 of something, that's so I think gas I think that's 0:17:42.040 --> 0:17:44.600 an old movie or no play. And what it was 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:47.679 was that you're trying and convince someone they're crazy, but 0:17:47.160 --> 0:17:50.840 I like replacing their their clothes with closer, a little 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:53.560 bit shorter or something something very There's something that's reason 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:56.000 it's called gaslights from there's an actress that I will 0:17:56.040 --> 0:18:00.520 not Yeah, it's like it's a uh manipulating by ecological 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:04.040 means into questioning their own sanity because because he basically 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:08.480 he Chris did that a little bit with where so 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:10.720 where they I think it's it's a way of almost 0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:13.840 like be like, yeah, I did that. She said, she 0:18:13.920 --> 0:18:16.359 said your gats didn't she say your gas lading? Me too? 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:19.520 I think only when he was like, how could you 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:21.720 ruin my day like this? Oh my god, how could 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:24.040 you ruin my day like that? Ladies, if a man 0:18:24.160 --> 0:18:26.520 is talking to you like that, get away from him 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:29.639 like that's it's never going to get better that The 0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:32.520 people like that, that's how they deal with things unless 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:34.359 they've gone to therapy and learned that that's not. Okay. 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:36.000 Wait here, I am. I found it all because it's 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:38.880 it's hard for me during these episodes to keep everything 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:41.320 because it's again, it's all over the place. But um 0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:47.200 and he okay, so she said, he said, this seems 0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:52.320 a handshake in paradise. Yet she seems a handshake. Somebody's 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:54.800 a little tattle tale, a snitch needs to be put 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:58.960 in his place. And then uh, Kevin goes in Canada, 0:18:59.000 --> 0:19:01.520 we are polite, we are reasonable, and we will not 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:04.119 be pushed around. That was really good. Well so I 0:19:04.119 --> 0:19:07.840 think he was quoting was fantastic. I was about to 0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:11.640 say Trudeau could be on this show. Oh my god, 0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:14.520 he really he's so hot. He's actually hotter than the 0:19:14.560 --> 0:19:17.280 Canadian that we got. And then he goes, I know 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:19.639 she will think about our date for the rest of 0:19:19.640 --> 0:19:23.200 her life and then he and then she goes, I 0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:27.240 don't know, appreciate you being condescending right now, and he 0:19:27.320 --> 0:19:30.880 she goes, it wasn't He said, it wasn't phenomenal for you, 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:36.080 your phenomenal actress. It was just it was just so aggressive. 0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:38.800 I don't know how you're single. And when he said that, 0:19:38.800 --> 0:19:40.320 he kept saying to her, I don't know how you're single. 0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:43.120 He was that was terror like being like I don't 0:19:43.680 --> 0:19:45.919 how could are we not pick you or something like that. 0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:47.679 It's like, yeah, we get it. You're just trying to 0:19:47.720 --> 0:19:50.960 emphasize that she's single. It was awful, And then I 0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:53.240 love when she went to when she went to talk 0:19:53.280 --> 0:19:54.920 to Joe about it afterwards, after he was taking you 0:19:54.960 --> 0:19:57.119 guys done here, okay, and then they goes to do 0:19:57.119 --> 0:19:59.119 down and she's like, I just wanted to understand. He 0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:01.800 wouldn't understand. I won it, and he goes, relax, He's 0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:03.920 just being me, and she's like, I'm just frustrating. He 0:20:03.960 --> 0:20:06.119 goes well, sometimes you gotta do it being frustrated and 0:20:06.160 --> 0:20:09.160 sometimes you just gotta chill out. He's the best. Yeah, 0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:11.359 yeah he was. He was like, Yeah, that's just a 0:20:11.520 --> 0:20:16.160 very mean person. She needed to hear that. Yeah, there's 0:20:16.200 --> 0:20:18.800 like something wrong with him, Like, I mean, if anyone 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:23.200 dates him after seeing this, Like, it makes sense why 0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:25.560 he didn't say a word during mentell all, I don't 0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:27.560 think he was there. So he was there. He was there, 0:20:27.880 --> 0:20:30.120 but he did not say a word because I think 0:20:30.160 --> 0:20:32.119 everyone is kind of like, are you sure he was 0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:34.760 there because he was wearing like a red suit. Yeah, 0:20:35.080 --> 0:20:37.159 he was in the front. Because he has also been 0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:39.840 accused of sexual harassment. Yeah, I feel like he I 0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:42.040 think he knew he could not say anything. People would 0:20:42.080 --> 0:20:45.240 be like, really, I saw Becca M's post being like 0:20:45.280 --> 0:20:47.840 I told you so, Laurie texted me some stuff which 0:20:47.840 --> 0:20:50.199 I haven't looked at. But it's about this later or 0:20:50.240 --> 0:20:51.600 do you have anything more you want to say about 0:20:51.680 --> 0:20:56.320 Joe or about Joe, Jenna and Leah. Yeah, I mean, 0:20:56.440 --> 0:21:02.200 you know, there's some horrible dudes out there, and when 0:21:02.240 --> 0:21:05.320 you you know, when you started dating someone, they start 0:21:05.320 --> 0:21:07.159 telling HI about the horrible like boyfriend. A lot of 0:21:07.160 --> 0:21:09.440 the times his stories like this where like like oh 0:21:09.520 --> 0:21:10.800 you know, and then he always made me feel like 0:21:10.800 --> 0:21:15.640 it was my fault. Yes, when you see it that pronounced, 0:21:15.720 --> 0:21:20.840 you're like, my god. He wasn't good at being manipulative, 0:21:20.880 --> 0:21:23.720 Like it was almost like a sad attempt where you're like, Okay, 0:21:23.760 --> 0:21:26.320 well this is really embarrassing for you because you were 0:21:26.359 --> 0:21:29.399 being a very bad evil person. Well like Chris in 0:21:29.440 --> 0:21:32.320 some ways is better at it. And Chris is definitely better. 0:21:32.440 --> 0:21:36.560 He's because he's just as manipulative, but he's somehow when 0:21:36.560 --> 0:21:38.679 he gets what he I don't know, I think he 0:21:39.080 --> 0:21:41.920 stays a little steadier in his tone because he's not 0:21:43.680 --> 0:21:47.760 getting worked up. Yeah, yeah, Chris, Chris is more manipulative. Yeah, 0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:50.800 Chris is meant more manipulative because he's not outwardly like 0:21:50.920 --> 0:21:53.639 just mean well like that's exact. Leo was just like 0:21:53.680 --> 0:21:56.440 he was getting hyped himself and he was He's hard 0:21:56.480 --> 0:22:01.080 to see what it's hard to watch a guy I 0:22:01.119 --> 0:22:03.639