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Speaker 1: It's the size of the fight in the dog. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Big Bets on Campus Sources Edition. This is

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Speaker 1: My co hosts the award winning news breaking Action Networks

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Speaker 1: Brett McMurphy is Sources. I am Action Network Senior writer

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Speaker 1: All right, Brett, there is so much news, like, we're

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Speaker 1: Is there anything that really you wanted to lead off with?

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Speaker 2: I think Cincinnati proved that they do not deserve to

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Speaker 1: It's Central Florida, But the version of them that went undefeated,

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Speaker 1: My numbers would have made Central Florida a two point favorite.

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Speaker 2: Last year's Cincinnati team would be favored over this year's

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Big. What's interesting is a lot of people that

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Speaker 2: There's no way anyone can say with one hundred percent

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Speaker 2: I was texting with somebody today about it and I said,

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Speaker 1: How beautiful is maction?

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Speaker 1: Come on, Murphy's burrow. Get it together, all right, Brett,

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Speaker 2: only three schools that are worse than Florida in their

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Speaker 2: last ten games against Power five opponents. That's Arizona, which

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Speaker 2: is one to nine after beating a COVID stricken cow

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Speaker 2: team last week. I went ten, Kansas, oh won ten,

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Speaker 2: Vanderbilt two and eight Florida. That's the company Florida's in

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Speaker 2: right now. So you add that with all the distractions

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Speaker 2: about the not talking to the media and Anthony Richardson twisting.

435
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Speaker 2: Is any dancing? Is it Mullen's fault that Richardson twisted?

436
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Speaker 2: Is absolutely not. It's bad luck. But you can't afford

437
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Speaker 2: bad luck this time of year. And then getting seal

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Speaker 2: club by South Carolina doesn't help either.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all that goodwill that you have winning the SEC

440
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Speaker 1: East with that amazing offense last year, it seems to

441
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Speaker 1: be completely gone.

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Speaker 2: They took Alabama to the wire, and that seems like

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Speaker 2: that was one hundred years ago.

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Speaker 1: It seems so long ago. I was so proud of

445
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Speaker 1: my BBOC bet. Yeah. So obviously Samford plus thirty one

446
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Speaker 1: and a half a best bet coming down the pipe

447
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Speaker 1: against the Gators this weekend. You could check us out

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Speaker 1: on Saturday bright before we move on. Who's the We

449
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Speaker 1: got so many candidates, I don't even know who's the

450
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Speaker 1: dumpster fire team of the week.

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Speaker 2: It's gotta be Florida. Your whole team's got the flu. Fine, whatever,

452
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Speaker 2: you can't you can't lose this. You can't lose this.

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Speaker 2: It's not that you can't lose to South Carolina, it's

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Speaker 2: how you lost to South Carolina that makes it even worse. So,

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Speaker 2: Florida Gators, you are the the dempster fire team of

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Speaker 2: the week. I mean I was talking earlier about the

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Speaker 2: two and eight record against Higher five opponents the last

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Speaker 2: ten games. Florida State's even better than that. This is

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Speaker 2: a program that aspires to win national championships, expects to

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Speaker 2: win national championships. This will be a fascinating next next

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Speaker 2: couple of weeks to see how this plays out.

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Speaker 1: All right, So Florida your dumpster fire team of the week.

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Speaker 1: I was had my hopes up a little bit. The

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Speaker 1: UMass firing wont Bell was going to be the dumpster

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Speaker 1: Fire Team of the Week, but that team lives in

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Speaker 1: a fireplace. So all right, let's move into the Heisman handicap.

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Speaker 1: This is your Heisman hand The Heisman Trophy is wanted

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Speaker 1: to so Brett. Last week you and I were talking

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Speaker 1: about the Action Network Gambling Heisman Trophy. We present it

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Speaker 1: annually from our Gambling Heisman Trust at the Action Network.

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, Lin Boden Junior, Drew Plitt have been winners before.

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Speaker 1: We mentioned a number of players last week weeke and

473
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Speaker 1: drop Kenneth Walker off of that they did not cover.

474
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Speaker 1: You have to cover games, So Mattareza for San Diego State,

475
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Speaker 1: these punts are some of the most unbelievable things I've

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Speaker 1: ever seen. Like, I don't know what we have to

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Speaker 1: do to get him in the conversation for the Heisman,

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Speaker 1: But when you're booting eighty five ninety yarders and what's

479
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Speaker 1: crazy is is that one that I saw that was

480
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Speaker 1: ninety yards he was like one yard away from pinning

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Speaker 1: it on the goal line. Like this kid is gonna

482
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Speaker 1: have a long career in the NFL. But I don't

483
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Speaker 1: think we need to spend too much time on this.

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Speaker 1: UTSA absolutely blew out UTEP Sincere McCormick at running back,

485
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Speaker 1: Frank Harris at quarterback, Jeff Trailer is a head coach.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of candidates here. For the game, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would go.

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Speaker 2: I would go with meet me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The for the Gambling Heisman with McCormick and Harris, absolutely,

491
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Speaker 2: they look like the class of Conference USA. Possibly. We

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Speaker 2: hope a rematch against Western Kentucky and the CUSA title game.

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Speaker 2: UTSA with McCormick and Harris would be my leaders in

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Speaker 2: the clubhouse for the Gambling Heisman Trophy this year.

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Speaker 1: As far as the real Heisman is concerned, we didn't

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Speaker 1: get a lot of movement this week. Wake Forest takes

497
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Speaker 1: a loss. Sam Hartman down to forty to one, Kenny

498
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Speaker 1: Pickett still hanging around twenty five to one. Matt Corral

499
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Speaker 1: not a real exclusive game against Liberty, didn't really expose

500
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Speaker 1: them as the g fill either, not even really G five,

501
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Speaker 1: but as the defense that they are not being sec level.

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Speaker 1: He's still at plus five fifty. Kenneth Walker is still

503
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Speaker 1: plus two to eighty. I don't think you can win

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Speaker 1: the Heisman if you don't win the big ten. C. J.

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Speaker 1: Strouds still sitting in four to one. My opinion will

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Speaker 1: win it. If if Ohio Say wins the Big ten questionable.

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Speaker 1: We'll get into that here in a little bit, right

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Speaker 1: Who still with Bryce Young over here with Alabama?

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Speaker 2: You know I am, I mean he Alabama did not

510
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Speaker 2: look good against LSU. You know, We've talked about the

511
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Speaker 2: off air about how bad Alabama's offensive line was against LSU.

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Speaker 2: But end of the day, Bryce Young throws for over

513
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Speaker 2: three hundred yards, no picks, two touchdowns, you know, against

514
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Speaker 2: the poorest offensive line. You know, he's he'll play, you know,

515
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Speaker 2: maybe a half against New Mexico State. Then they've got Arkansas,

516
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Speaker 2: then Auburn, then Georgia. So he's gonna have that. He's

517
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Speaker 2: gonna have the primetime opportunities to continue to stay in

518
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Speaker 2: the in the limelight, which is huge with Walker. I mean,

519
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 2: again what I talked about before, being a running back,

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Speaker 2: I just think you've got to put up two or

521
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Speaker 2: three hundred yards a game. He had twenty three carries

522
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Speaker 2: for one hundred and forty six yards against Purdue. But

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that really stands out to people.

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Speaker 2: People just look at well, Michigan State lots to Purdue,

525
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Speaker 2: Michigan State still has to play Ohio State. Michigan State

526
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Speaker 2: still has to play Penn State, so he'll have a

527
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Speaker 2: couple of opportunities there. But if Michigan State ends up

528
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Speaker 2: nine to three, I don't see anyway Kenneth Walker can

529
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Speaker 2: win this thing.

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Speaker 1: I think Kenneth Walker is the odd man out here.

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Speaker 1: I was still back CJ. Stroud. I think they're the

532
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Speaker 1: team that's going to win the Big Ten. For when

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Speaker 1: I say Ohio State, Caleb Williams being listed at plus

534
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Speaker 1: seven fifty off of bye, maybe people are sleeping on

535
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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams, but he will be the reason that Oklahoma

536
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Speaker 1: makes the playoff. It definitely won't be the defense. But

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Speaker 1: back to Bryce Young this, I feel terrible. I did

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Speaker 1: the write up last week for Alabama LSU, and I

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Speaker 1: did not focus enough on the offensive line of Alabama

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Speaker 1: starting a brand new right tackle, Damian George Junior. Constantly

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Speaker 1: LSU was sending blitz on that side. The right side

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Speaker 1: of the offensive line. Bryce Young was constantly harassed, pressure, sacks,

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Speaker 1: everything in the works. And this is an LSU defensive

544
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Speaker 1: line that's been rebuilt three times this season, so you

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Speaker 1: know you're gonna get New Mexico State here. But when

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Speaker 1: John Ridgeway and Trey Williams from Arkansas on the defensive line,

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Speaker 1: you know, when that they get up against the Alabama

548
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Speaker 1: offensive line, that's a problem. So you know, Bryce Young

549
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Speaker 1: has got to learn to slide. He's got to learn

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Speaker 1: to get out of bounds. It's not his fault. Now,

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Speaker 1: now I keep thinking about this. You know, second, I've

552
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Speaker 1: been podcasting all year about how Bryce Young doesn't take

553
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Speaker 1: shots down field. He may not have the time. That

554
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Speaker 1: maybe that's why we're calling him, you know, captain checkdown.

555
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Speaker 1: Because he doesn't have the time. He's got to throw

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Speaker 1: it off to some of his weapons out in the flats.

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Speaker 1: So you know, keep your eyes out on that. This

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Speaker 1: is the whole reason we're gonna pivot into this. I

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Speaker 1: am very, very bearish on Alabama's chances to win the

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Speaker 1: national title. So that will lead us into our final segment.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the playoff payoff, the college football playoff, payoff, playoff.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about playoff. You kidding me? Playoff?

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Speaker 1: All right? Brad Georgia minus won ten. I did a

564
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Speaker 1: piece it's going to be out Tuesday morning for the

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Speaker 1: Action Network. It's essentially saying, follow the four commandments of

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Speaker 1: the College Football Playoff as far as undefeated teams, one

567
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Speaker 1: loss teams, two loss teams g five teams, and it's

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Speaker 1: essentially a bracket, and certain teams fall into brackets. Well,

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Speaker 1: Georgia falls into two. They're absolutely gonna make it if

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Speaker 1: they win the SEC. They're absolutely gonna make it if

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Speaker 1: they lose the SEC championship. So Georgia minus one ten,

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Speaker 1: believe it or not, has value because they're going to

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Speaker 1: be a fourteen point favorite in that first game. And

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Speaker 1: so I know that that sounds crazy, but if you

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Speaker 1: look at Georgia's remaining schedule, three touchdown favorite against Tennessee,

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Speaker 1: they got Georgia Tech, this minus one ten actually has value.

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Speaker 1: You should buy that. Now. Who else is on the list?

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Speaker 1: Alabama plus three sixty, and I think we should start

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Speaker 1: the conversation here. I don't know how they beat Georgia

580
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Speaker 1: and that as a two loss team. A two loss

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Speaker 1: team has never made the College Football Playoff. As a

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Speaker 1: matter of fact, we should probably discuss Michigan because Alabama

583
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Speaker 1: got in as an at large one loss and if

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Speaker 1: Michigan beats Ohio State and dug. You know, for whatever reason,

585
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Speaker 1: maybe it doesn't go to the Big Ten Championship. I

586
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Speaker 1: can't predict what's going to happen here, but I think

587
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Speaker 1: Michigan's lurking in the dark, and right now I have

588
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Speaker 1: them projected as a five point underdog to Ohio State

589
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Speaker 1: in the season in the season finale. Now, I know

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Speaker 1: that they still have a big gaming in Spenn State

591
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Speaker 1: this weekend, but Michigan is sixty to one. Looks like

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Speaker 1: opportunity to me.

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Speaker 2: It's definitely opportunity that I would be. I mean, sixty

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Speaker 2: to one, that's a huge number I would I would

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Speaker 2: definitely take a shot at that. The thing that I

596
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Speaker 2: would be weary of is you look at the history

597
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Speaker 2: of that series with Jim Harbaugh and Michigan quite simply

598
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Speaker 2: has not been competitive. Is this a different year? Maybe

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Speaker 2: so we'll see. But yeah, sixty to one, Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: think that's a that's a great play because you know everything,

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Speaker 2: and I agree Georgia has a lot of value, but

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Speaker 2: it minus one ten. You know, how much are you

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Speaker 2: gonna have to put on Georgia to make it worth

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Speaker 2: your while? Michigan. You don't have to put a lot

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Speaker 2: down if you're sixty to one. If they get there, fine,

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Speaker 2: and if they don't, it's okay. It wasn't you know,

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Speaker 2: it wasn't that big of a wager. And then if

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Speaker 2: Michigan can somehow some way get in the playoff, then

609
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Speaker 2: certainly you have a way to hedge in that semifinal

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Speaker 2: game when they open up with Georgia is a is

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Speaker 2: a two touchdown underdog.

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Speaker 1: I mean Georgia minus went ten. Let's put it this way.

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Speaker 1: There's no way that they're not in the College Football

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Speaker 1: Playoffs semi final. And the only teams that will be

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Speaker 1: less than nine point underdogs or Ohio State and Alabama.

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Speaker 1: Alabama may not even be in it by the time

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Speaker 1: we get to that semi final and there may not

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Speaker 1: even be a rematch with Georgia. So you're planning on

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Speaker 1: taking that Georgia minus one ten into the national championship game.

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Speaker 1: And I got news for everybody. I don't care if

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Speaker 1: Georgia loses a game in the SEC Championship. They're not

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Speaker 1: going to be underdogs to anybody in the National Championship game.

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Speaker 1: So to me, the minus one ten has value that

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Speaker 1: long shot on Michigan, though, I'm just seeing at large

625
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Speaker 1: bid I'm seeing, you know, I mean, this is a

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Speaker 1: very short projected spread against Ohio State. The one team

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Speaker 1: I'm nervous about, and Brett you have a future on

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Speaker 1: them is Oregon. I thought Oregon looked great against Washington,

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Speaker 1: but going into Rice Ecles and beating Kyle Whittingham.

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Speaker 2: That's gonna be tough twice in three weeks.

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Speaker 1: It's hard, right.

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Speaker 2: That really concerns me having an Oregon to win the

633
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Speaker 2: national title, knowing that they have to beat Utah twice,

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Speaker 2: including once at Utah, and then obviously if they do

635
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Speaker 2: do that, Utah has the revenge factor in the second matchup.

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Speaker 2: So if Oregon gets there, they they definitely deserve, you know,

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Speaker 2: that opportunity. But man, I, what would you so right

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Speaker 2: now Oregon at Utah, what's what's your projected line?

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Speaker 1: So on a neutral site right now, Oregon would be

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Speaker 1: a half point favorite. And so they're going to go

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Speaker 1: into to Rice Ecles next week as about a two

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Speaker 1: and a half point underdog, And I think that's one

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Speaker 1: of the more interesting things. People probably gonna be shocked

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Speaker 1: to see Oregon as an underdog next week. But you know,

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Speaker 1: the Oregon path is extremely tough. I'm rooting for it,

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Speaker 1: Brett for this week only, just this week Tomorrow night,

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Speaker 1: Tuesday night. Is Oregon gonna get up above Alabama in

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Speaker 1: the number two slot.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think it'll be Georgia, Alabama, Oregon,

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Speaker 2: Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: Now here comes a hard I think it slide Michigan

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Speaker 1: up from seven up there with that twenty well, I

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Speaker 1: think they.

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Speaker 2: Keep Michigan State ahead of Michigan. I don't see him

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Speaker 2: jumping at Ou over Michigan and Cincinnati. They didn't play

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Speaker 2: a game, they didn't do anything. In theory, they would

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Speaker 2: keep oh you there. I think they would be one.

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Speaker 2: Georgia two, Alabama three, Oregon four, Ohio State five, Michigan

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Speaker 2: State six, Michigan seven, Cincinnati eight Oklahoma.

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Speaker 1: Oh. So the slide has already started, I think so.

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Speaker 2: I think so. I'll tweet that out Tuesday before the show.

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Speaker 2: I tweeted out, by the way, I tweeted out last

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Speaker 2: week before the show my projected top seven. I had Georgia, Alabama,

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Speaker 2: Michigan State. I nailed the top three I with on Oklahoma.

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Speaker 2: I had Oklahoma four. They are obviously back at eight.

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Speaker 2: But then I had Oregon, Ohio State, and Cincinnati all

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Speaker 2: in the exact order of the committee. I do not

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Speaker 2: see the committee changing. Cincinnati is not going to leap

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Speaker 2: frog Ohio State. They're not going to leave Oregon. I

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Speaker 2: think it's more likely that Michigan leaped leap frog Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, I agree with that. So the slide is

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Speaker 1: already going to start to happen. Be looking out for

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Speaker 1: Brett's tweet tomorrow night during the college football playoff rankings.

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Speaker 1: Of course, we will have updated projected point spreads for

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Speaker 1: the projected semi final. But you know, I think Georgia

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Speaker 1: minus one ten is holding value. You're going to take

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Speaker 1: that to the National Championship game. Long shot. Michigan is

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Speaker 1: going to keep going up and to I think they're

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Speaker 1: going to I mean, I haven't deep dived the game yet.

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Speaker 1: It's still Monday night when you and I are recording,

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Speaker 1: and I believe Michigan has an advantage over Penn State here,

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Speaker 1: and if they survive this weekend, that sixty to one

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Speaker 1: is going to be completely gone. You know, Michigan State,

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Speaker 1: they lost it for due but that doesn't really change anything, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, they can still beat Ohio State and they're

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Speaker 1: still going to the Big Ten Championship game, so nothing.

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Speaker 1: You think Michigan State falls down outside of Ohio State,

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Speaker 1: and then Ohio State and Michigan State, they'll cancel each

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Speaker 1: other out. Whoever wins that game will be up in

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Speaker 1: the top four.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: So no love for the Oklahoma State coming in from

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Speaker 1: double digits. Maybe they slip into the top ten at

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Speaker 1: some point.

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Speaker 2: Will boil down to what it always boils down when

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Speaker 2: we have any kind of successful season, whether it's going

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Speaker 2: to be a very very good season or not, and

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Speaker 2: that is if the Cowboys can beat the Sooners. It's

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Speaker 2: that simple.

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Speaker 1: Are they going to move Bedlam again because of this?

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Speaker 1: They wouldn't move Bedlam at the beginning of November because

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Speaker 1: they didn't want Oklahoma and Oklahoma State to play each

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Speaker 1: other on consecutive weeks in the Big Twelve Championship. That's

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Speaker 1: obviously going to happen every year, but now this year

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Speaker 1: it's actually probably going to happen, So.

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Speaker 2: It could be back to back weeks. Yeah they Hey, Colin,

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Speaker 2: there's no guarantee Oklahoma State will continue to play Oklahoma

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Speaker 2: when you goes to the SEC. That has not been determined.

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Speaker 2: I reached out to the school president at Oklahoma State

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Speaker 2: and was not allowed an interview if you will, kind

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Speaker 2: of hurt. I'm gonna lum and everything, but hey, whatever

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Speaker 2: to ask that specific question. But Oklahoma State has not

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Speaker 2: made a determination, and I expect they will. They've got

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Speaker 2: a couple of years to figure this out. Yeah, but

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Speaker 2: there's a real chance that bye bye to Bedlam, which

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Speaker 2: would suck, But that's conference re alignment.

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Speaker 1: They have to play each other every year. I can't

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Speaker 1: even imagine this, Oh you wants to.

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Speaker 2: If they do play, it will be the first major

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Speaker 2: rivalry between Power five opponents that was continued after a

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Speaker 2: team's left conferences. Pitt West Virginia ended, Texas Texas a

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Speaker 2: and m ended, Kansas Missouri ended. So yeah, Oklahoma and

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma State would be the only one that will have

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Speaker 2: survived if they continue to play once the Sooners head

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Speaker 2: to the SEC.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like Nebrasko, you that was discontinued. There's just a

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Speaker 1: lot of them where this realignment has killed some of

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Speaker 1: the traditions that you grow up. But as far as

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Speaker 1: the playoff payoff, I'm going to say Georgia minus won ten,

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Speaker 1: Michigan plus sixty, that's going to be gone. They beat

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Speaker 1: Penn State. That number is going to be whacked. Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: fifty to one Bretton. I both agree that the slide

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Speaker 1: is coming.

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Speaker 2: That's a good number for Cincinnati, But do you do

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Speaker 2: you really believe Cincinnati could beat two teams in the playoff?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely and absolutely not. So if you want to get

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati fifty to one and then hedge it, but then

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Speaker 2: you're gonna be you know, you're gonna have to be

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Speaker 2: playing a money line on a team that's a seventeen

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Speaker 2: point favorite. I don't hate Cincinnati. I'm just calling it

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Speaker 2: as I see it. Cincinnati at this point would not

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Speaker 2: be competitive in a college football playoff. And I know

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Speaker 2: the response is, well, let's put him in and see

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Speaker 2: how it works out. Well, what do you say to that,

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Speaker 2: maybe a team that's more deserving. Hey, we're gonna let

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati do it because the previous seven years we didn't

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Speaker 2: have a Group five, and this year we want to

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Speaker 2: make up for that. I just I don't buy it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, I think even if Indiana was

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Speaker 1: going to a bowl game and that would bolster the

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Speaker 1: resume a little bit, I still don't think I mean Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: I said it, Cincinnati twenty twenty would be six point

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Speaker 1: favorites over Cincinnati twenty twenty one. So this team does

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Speaker 1: not deserve to be in the playoff. But everybody out

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Speaker 1: there that I call the talking heads have a good

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Speaker 1: time talking about how the G five is getting screwed.

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Speaker 1: They're not. If anybody's getting screwed, it's utsa. Oh by

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Speaker 1: the way, listen, five and one to win the national championship, right,

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Speaker 1: go go, go, meet Meat, save your money. That is

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Speaker 1: gonna do it. This has been big bets. On Campus

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Speaker 1: Sources edition Tomorrow afternoon you can hear our group of

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Speaker 1: five experts, Mike Ianello, Mike Calabret's on our G five

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Speaker 1: Deep Dive episode, and latelate Thursday nights, Stucky and I

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Speaker 1: will return for our week eleven betting preview. All right

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Speaker 1: here on the BBOC podcast. Brett has to get back

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Speaker 1: to being ignored from his alumni on his phone. I

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Speaker 1: have to get back to I have to get back

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Speaker 1: to writing up all of these maction previews for Tuesday

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Speaker 1: and Wednesday night. Thanks for joining me, Brett. We'll see

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Speaker 1: everybody at the window