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Speaker 1: fragg what's going on man now much Greggy Thursday, which
Speaker 1: means we have appreciated football tonight, Very excited about that.
Speaker 1: But most importantly, Yes, how was the Kickball playoffs last night?
Speaker 1: Greg Philson? I know everyone's dying now. Uh we have
Speaker 1: moved on to the final four. And how many button
Speaker 1: singles did you have last night? Too? To there you go?
Speaker 1: Two for two two classic Greggy? Yeah, man, it was
Speaker 1: good let up. We were down to nothing after the
Speaker 1: top of the first came in the bottom of first,
Speaker 1: beat out a bunt single, and then the next one.
Speaker 1: Everybody knew I was in a bunt and they had
Speaker 1: everybody playing in on the left side. Just popped it
Speaker 1: right down the first base side. Nobody was in a
Speaker 1: mile of it came around to score. Both times, the
Speaker 1: top um four in our lineup combined for eight runs
Speaker 1: scored in seven r V. I, well, that's pretty good.
Speaker 1: Would be nice if the Yankees would do that, and
Speaker 1: we want eight four. We move on now, semi final
Speaker 1: game Monday night. You have some wheels, don't you? Used
Speaker 1: to be like a sprinter ish kind of guy. I
Speaker 1: used to be there. I used to be fast, not
Speaker 1: like fast enough to strike me as a guy that
Speaker 1: would be fast and like short distances. I don't want
Speaker 1: to am. I think you're probably faster than me. Want
Speaker 1: do we have a race? You you're meeting up the stairs,
Speaker 1: didn't you off the stairs? That's different. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I used to be fast when I was younger and skinnier,
Speaker 1: But I still have it in my head that I'm fast,
Speaker 1: like not fast, but like fast for an average guy. Right.
Speaker 1: So because of that, I still act like I am
Speaker 1: and I reach base Koki attitude gray, like I bunt
Speaker 1: and I reached first base. I'm like, I'm not slow.
Speaker 1: It gets the first with his bunt single And do
Speaker 1: you have like a little like salt and pepper thing
Speaker 1: you do to the um, you know what? You probably
Speaker 1: that would be cool when when when when Jeff reaches basse,
Speaker 1: we we kind of just we of the claw a
Speaker 1: bunch didn't The Mets used to do that too, and
Speaker 1: the Rangers started it to be remember Alexandra, something that
Speaker 1: I could be making. I think it was all. I
Speaker 1: think it's a bunch of dominicking guys that started it.
Speaker 1: It might have been from the World Baseball Classic and
Speaker 1: they just let out into the MLB um. But a
Speaker 1: bunch of guys are all going like this, and no,
Speaker 1: it's fun. I think we should set up a competition
Speaker 1: similar to our beer reciprocation that if you want to
Speaker 1: come here and race Gregg's susmen, we could set that
Speaker 1: up then and we will record it down the street
Speaker 1: and we will just tweet it out. Not not a
Speaker 1: hallway hallway A bit I used to when on natural parties,
Speaker 1: we would race down the hallway like a hotel in
Speaker 1: a hotel because I don't even know, because we're all
Speaker 1: very competitive people and I don't know how it wind
Speaker 1: up like me racing people. But I was always down
Speaker 1: because I I again, I think I had a little
Speaker 1: bit of speed. Of course I've gained some weight over
Speaker 1: the years. But we did eat los poils from Monald's
Speaker 1: the other day. Well it was funny because yesterday I
Speaker 1: showed up Kitball and one of the players in your
Speaker 1: teams like, you look at skinny today. I was like,
Speaker 1: thank you, and then we went for wings and fries,
Speaker 1: so you have to change that naturally. Well didn't somebody
Speaker 1: else say he looks skinny? What we were on two? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was when let's put your motors now on Tuesday.
Speaker 1: You like your shirt right? It leots stee in the
Speaker 1: shirt and then we ate fried chickens best to um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's crazy. It's crazy, um now to bring my lunch
Speaker 1: and on needs salads every day anymore. But I feel
Speaker 1: like and actually, since I stopped getting those salads which
Speaker 1: are probably like have like weird chemicals in them to
Speaker 1: keep to let us fresh every day, I feel like
Speaker 1: I have lost weight since I started. Stop eating those salads,
Speaker 1: not even for you. I've been preaching this for about
Speaker 1: two years now, and it only took us until now,
Speaker 1: what is it, August eighteen to realize that salad is
Speaker 1: not good for you. Show not saying it's not good
Speaker 1: for you. I'm saying the salads we were getting there
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, it wasn't helping me. We're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about wide receivers today. We are, but before we do that,
Speaker 1: I was having something like that. I just want to
Speaker 1: pump this out there because I need to fill this league.
Speaker 1: We're doing a beat Frank standf a league over at
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Speaker 1: be tonight at eight pm. If we could feel it,
Speaker 1: there's still about seven spots left. So for all of
Speaker 1: you listening watching out there who wanted to compete against me,
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people ask us about, you know,
Speaker 1: BFF leagues. Uh. I don't know that we're gonna have
Speaker 1: a season long league that we set up because we're
Speaker 1: already in a ton of leagues. But we do appreciate
Speaker 1: all your support regardless. If you want to compete against me,
Speaker 1: this is the way to do it. And you don't
Speaker 1: have to set your lineup. It's best ball, so um,
Speaker 1: the best Ball scoring format automatically set your optimal line
Speaker 1: up each week based on your highest score. So it's
Speaker 1: really just draft tonight and then kind of see who
Speaker 1: wins at the end of the season. And it's only
Speaker 1: thirty five bucks is tonight night, eight pm, twelve teams,
Speaker 1: twenty four rounds. I can't. I can't take myself away
Speaker 1: from the television for that long. We know that, Greg, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm doing. I can't make that plan.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Isn't it isn't isn't king of gone for
Speaker 1: the weekend? Yeah? I should have said it up for tomorrow. Probably. Well, well,
Speaker 1: if it doesn't feel tonight, I'll probably Okay. So I
Speaker 1: thought you were a year like I stole the show
Speaker 1: from you. I did want it. Need to do it's
Speaker 1: yours again? Taking all right, we're going in the wide
Speaker 1: receiver three to thirty six. We ended the show yesterday,
Speaker 1: um with the last two guys in the rankings, and
Speaker 1: I had as I said, Um, I had the Detroit
Speaker 1: guys in there, both Golden Tee and Marvin Jones, had
Speaker 1: Alan Robinson in there Brandon Cooks as well and Jujuicemith
Speaker 1: Schuster made the cut to Marius Thomas didn't. He was
Speaker 1: twenty six for me and a friend of mine, a
Speaker 1: friend of mine who listens to the show every day
Speaker 1: and we appreciate it. He texted me, He's like, dude,
Speaker 1: like I love listening to the show, but that you're
Speaker 1: out of your mind? What do you mean? And he
Speaker 1: goes this to Marius Thomas, hate has gone too far.
Speaker 1: And I explained my side of it that three years running,
Speaker 1: every statistical category has gone the wrong direction. Isn't catch
Speaker 1: a hundred passes to see reason anymore? He's not getting
Speaker 1: over and getting over a thousand yards last year and
Speaker 1: the touchdowns or six or under each of the last
Speaker 1: three years, those are all negative signs to me. You
Speaker 1: got the guys that we have over the Brandon Cooks
Speaker 1: is the Alan Robinson's um. They are younger and I
Speaker 1: think improving His point was Alan Robinson playing in Chicago,
Speaker 1: like he goes, I don't want to crown Mitchell dr
Speaker 1: Whisky's coming off a torn a c L. He's had
Speaker 1: one really good professional season. What was Marius Thomas's headlight?
Speaker 1: Eight of them that was the Robinson point. Brandon Cooks
Speaker 1: had a good season in New England, but who knows
Speaker 1: what he will fit like in l A. That's the
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks point. And then when it comes into the
Speaker 1: Marius Thomas side, it's hey, yeah, he's declined all three years. Fair,
Speaker 1: but he's also finished as a top twenty wide receiver
Speaker 1: in each of the last three years. He's also had
Speaker 1: the worst quarterback play in the NFL over the last
Speaker 1: three years. What could you possibly expect from him? Now
Speaker 1: you're giving him a competent quarterback. This should all change.
Speaker 1: Everybody loves Adam Thieland and Stefon digs, but maybe they
Speaker 1: were made by case Keenum not saying Kirk Cousins isn't
Speaker 1: very good, because I think he is. But you know,
Speaker 1: look what Adam Feeland did last year. Look what is
Speaker 1: the fond Diggs last did last year? You're putting that
Speaker 1: quarterback with the Marus Thomas. He should be back to
Speaker 1: where he was, that is the top twenty wide receiver
Speaker 1: and he should be uh selected as one. He's not
Speaker 1: saying the my friend who I went back and forth with,
Speaker 1: because I'm not saying he's a top twelve wide receiver
Speaker 1: or necessarily even a top fifteen. But to say he's
Speaker 1: not at least the wide receiver to we're out of
Speaker 1: our minds. I told them, go listen. Frank's higher on
Speaker 1: DT than I am. I know there's some other experts
Speaker 1: that are higher in DT than I am, um, but
Speaker 1: that's kind of just how I feel. If DT is
Speaker 1: the highest rated wide receiver in my ward, I'm probably
Speaker 1: gonna go in a different direction. Frank, what do you
Speaker 1: like and what don't you like about Zamarius Thomas? So
Speaker 1: everything you said about him trending downwards um statistically is
Speaker 1: absolutely true. That's happened three years in a row now,
Speaker 1: and we know he has dealt with injuries, hip, rowing injuries, hamstring,
Speaker 1: he dealt with a little bit last year. He's even
Speaker 1: missed a little bit of practice the past couple of days,
Speaker 1: but he has returned. So I understand for all those reasons.
Speaker 1: What I do like a lot about what they're doing
Speaker 1: with him, and I mentioned is very briefly yesterday is
Speaker 1: throughout training camp they've been running him in the slot.
Speaker 1: So what that does is it allows Courtland Sutton to
Speaker 1: play his more natural position on the outside. Emmanuel Sanders
Speaker 1: on the outside as well. But what did case Keenum
Speaker 1: Who did case Kenom target most last year? That was
Speaker 1: Adam Feeling that was in the slot, and that's exactly
Speaker 1: where de Marius Thomas is now moving in this offense.
Speaker 1: And I kind of mentioned it. I tried to draw
Speaker 1: parallels between him and Larry Fitzgerald. Once Fitzgerald, you know,
Speaker 1: got to the later years of his career right now,
Speaker 1: he started playing the slot more and he was much
Speaker 1: more effective. And we've seen that with other wide receivers
Speaker 1: as well. Reggie Wayne became more of a possession receiver
Speaker 1: as well in the later stages of his career. So
Speaker 1: I think to Marius Thomas has kind of headed down
Speaker 1: that path. What I what I also like about him
Speaker 1: is at least a hundred and forty targets every single year,
Speaker 1: Like you can pencil him in for a hundred and forty.
Speaker 1: And I know some people are gonna say, oh, well,
Speaker 1: Land Sutton is gonna come in now, he's gonna take
Speaker 1: some targets away from him. If you look at last year,
Speaker 1: they had like a mishmash of like wide receiver three
Speaker 1: four options who just stole targets. Then he Fowler fifty
Speaker 1: six targets, Cody Latimer thirty targets, um Jordan Taylor twenty targets,
Speaker 1: Austin Trailer thirteen targets. So all these targets, you kind
Speaker 1: of add those up. Some of them are gonna go
Speaker 1: towards Sanders, but you could still get your I don't
Speaker 1: know anywhere from maybe seventy seventy five targets for Courtland Sutton.
Speaker 1: He's a rookie. He's going to fill that void of
Speaker 1: to Marus Thomas once he leaves this team. But I
Speaker 1: don't think that we're expecting a huge role for Courtland
Speaker 1: Sutton his first year. He'll he'll he'll have some big games,
Speaker 1: he'll be inconsistent, but this is still the Marius Thomas
Speaker 1: and Emmanuel Sanders. What I do agree with you is
Speaker 1: I like the value that you're getting on Emmanuel Sanders
Speaker 1: right now that if you want a part of this
Speaker 1: Broncos passing game, why wouldn't you just wait two rounds
Speaker 1: or three rounds and get Sanders in the sixth or
Speaker 1: seventh round, who really is at the peak of his
Speaker 1: career right now in terms of talent and health, instead
Speaker 1: of taking to Marius Thomas in the fourth round. So
Speaker 1: I understand what you're saying. But to me, to Marus
Speaker 1: Thomas is still he's very safe. He's in that golden
Speaker 1: tape mold. He's gonna have a hundred and thirty and
Speaker 1: forty targets. He's gonna I think he's gonna be back
Speaker 1: over a thousand yards this year. He led this team
Speaker 1: in red zone targets a year ago, and now he
Speaker 1: gets the quarterback upgrade in Case Kingdom. So I think
Speaker 1: we could see a touchdown upstick as well. If he
Speaker 1: could do a thousand yards and six seven touchdowns, he's
Speaker 1: easily going to be a top twenty wide receiver once again.
Speaker 1: And I think he can get to those numbers great.
Speaker 1: I agree that certainly when it was Emmanuel Sanders, and
Speaker 1: I mentioned that before. I love the value that you're
Speaker 1: getting with Sanders, and I understand the point of saying, hey,
Speaker 1: if you love Sanders so much for the reasons um
Speaker 1: that somebody else loves to Barrius Thomas, why don't you
Speaker 1: love DT? And I gave my reasons the decline ultimately,
Speaker 1: but maybe you're right, Frank. He moves to the slot
Speaker 1: and he's a very he's very solid wide receiver too,
Speaker 1: and maybe Mi Mimusnomers. I don't want him as a
Speaker 1: wide receiver one, which I don't have to get him
Speaker 1: as I think Marius Thomas is like a fine wide
Speaker 1: receiver three. That's why I have a twenty six. Like
Speaker 1: if he's my third wide receiver, I feel very very
Speaker 1: comfortable with that. But I look at the guys that
Speaker 1: I have in front of him, Marvin Jones, Jarvis Landry,
Speaker 1: Chris Hogan, Allen Robinson, Like all right, you want to
Speaker 1: make the argument against Allen Robinson. Okay, that that's fine.
Speaker 1: I don't think I could really fight it, but I
Speaker 1: think I'm looking at some of the upside of these guys,
Speaker 1: like really really excited about it, which is why I
Speaker 1: have to marri As Thomas after him. I think it's
Speaker 1: a roster construction pick two. Right, So, say you start
Speaker 1: running back running back in your drafts. We spoke about
Speaker 1: that yesterday. Maybe you get a more volatile wide receiver
Speaker 1: as your wide receiver one. Say you end up with
Speaker 1: a Tyreek Hill or or on Marie Cooper as your
Speaker 1: wide receiver one. At the end of the third round,
Speaker 1: you come back in the fourth round, you kind of
Speaker 1: pair that volatility, that upside play with one of those
Speaker 1: wide receivers with the safety in my opinion of Damarius Thomas,
Speaker 1: and then that allows you, you know, you balance the
Speaker 1: upside with the safety of DT and then in the
Speaker 1: fifth round you come back and then maybe take a
Speaker 1: shot on another upside play like a Corey Davis or
Speaker 1: you know, someone that we should we're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: is just ascending and it's like out of this world
Speaker 1: right now, Mark, He's goodwin if you want to take
Speaker 1: that shot too. So I think it's about roster construction.
Speaker 1: Maybe if you have a more stable wide receiver, one
Speaker 1: that you drafted in the first and second round, yep,
Speaker 1: you don't take to Maryus Thomas because you don't seem
Speaker 1: much upside. Maybe you want to take more of a
Speaker 1: shot on a Josh Gordon or a or a Juju
Speaker 1: Smith Schuster who has more upside than him. I think
Speaker 1: it's about Ruster roster construction. But I do think where
Speaker 1: he's going his fair value in the fourth round. I
Speaker 1: don't really have a problem if you wanted to take
Speaker 1: him there, Okay, And that's the deal with da Marius
Speaker 1: Thomas um. And we have the Marrius Thomas ranks exactly
Speaker 1: where Frankie, you do him in twenty Okays, you have
Speaker 1: me your top Okay, exactly where you finished last year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and where you and he's been inside the top twenty
Speaker 1: each of the last three years. Guys that were on
Speaker 1: that we didn't necessarily get to last yesterday. Brandon Cooks,
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks and Sammy Watkins. I want I want to
Speaker 1: talk about them kind of back to back because Brandon
Speaker 1: Cooks is replacing Sandy Watkins in this Rams offense. He'saide.
Speaker 1: They bright new contract, and Watkins goes over and plays
Speaker 1: with Kansas City. Let's start with Brandon Cooks. Cooks was
Speaker 1: New England's wide receiver one. He was, you know, Brandon
Speaker 1: Cooks more of a best ball player, but certainly streaky. Right.
Speaker 1: You have his good games in his back games. What
Speaker 1: can you count on Brandon Cooks for I think that's
Speaker 1: very hard to figure out because I don't know what
Speaker 1: the target share is going to be for him. Look,
Speaker 1: he's gonna have more targets than Sammy Watkins did last year.
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins was in the eighty range for targets with
Speaker 1: the Rams. They went out, they made an investment in
Speaker 1: this guy. They want him to be part of the offense.
Speaker 1: They signed him to that extension as well. So clearly
Speaker 1: they have big plans for Brandon Cooks. And we know
Speaker 1: that Sean McVeigh can get the most out of his
Speaker 1: offensive weapons. But there are a lot of mounts to
Speaker 1: feed here, Greg, And I think maybe this helps Derek
Speaker 1: Goff more than anybody because I could see, you know,
Speaker 1: one week where it's Cooper Cup, one week it's Robert Woods.
Speaker 1: They take away from each other. But look, there's those guys,
Speaker 1: there's Brandon Cooks. The tight ends are gonna be inconsistent,
Speaker 1: but they're gonna be there. Todd Gurley is gonna get
Speaker 1: his targets as well. So if I had to pencil
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks in for something for for his targets, I
Speaker 1: would say between a hundred and a hundred and ten.
Speaker 1: And you know, he's moved down draft boards. He's more
Speaker 1: like a fifth sixth round pick right now. But he
Speaker 1: also has a very very difficult schedule. I saw Jake
Speaker 1: tweeting about this, and I think it's like something like
Speaker 1: the top eight cornerbacks according to PFF he will face
Speaker 1: this year. And I think that he's going to be
Speaker 1: the number one outside target, and I think he's gonna
Speaker 1: be shadowed by a lot of those guys. And if
Speaker 1: that happens, maybe those are the games where we see
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup and Robert Woods really blow up. So because
Speaker 1: of the uncertainty in the target share, um the quarterback
Speaker 1: really like he's not playing with Drew Brees, he's not
Speaker 1: playing with Tom Brady anymore, and the fact that he
Speaker 1: faces this tough schedule, I'm I'm fading Brandon Cooks. Even
Speaker 1: if he makes it into the fifth, sixth round, there
Speaker 1: will always be another wide receiver there. Or I'll just
Speaker 1: convince myself to wait another round and then take someone
Speaker 1: else in the seventh round, whether it's an Emmanuel Sanders,
Speaker 1: a Robby Anderson, Jamison Crowder. I just think he's going on.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm never gonna want to take Brandon Cooks.
Speaker 1: I feel that I feel that way about him, the
Speaker 1: way you feel about to Mary Thomas Craig. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I and I get that, But I also look at
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks and everything you said is right right, Like
Speaker 1: every statue gave, every belief you have is right when
Speaker 1: it comes to Brandon Cooks. But I look at Brandon
Speaker 1: Cooks differently than I look at Damarius Thomas. Is probably
Speaker 1: because of the youth. Like you, you see Brandon Cooks,
Speaker 1: and you gotta remember the two. It's not even twenty
Speaker 1: five yet, he's got a twenty five years old he's
Speaker 1: already been in the league for how many I mean
Speaker 1: how many years now five years essentially, so going to
Speaker 1: this team with a young offense, a young head coach,
Speaker 1: and Sean McVeigh, I think that he will be able
Speaker 1: to maximize the talent of Brandon Cooks. Difference between Cooks
Speaker 1: and Watkins. Watkins got there literally right now in training camp,
Speaker 1: and it's very hard to learn the detailed offensive got
Speaker 1: like Sean McVeigh that quickly. Now's Brandon Brandon Cooks, your
Speaker 1: typical wide receiver one. No, he's not six ft, he's
Speaker 1: not two hundred pounds. He's not somebody that's going to
Speaker 1: be the Monster's red zone guy that Sammy Watkins is.
Speaker 1: But I think that Andy Cooks definitely can have this
Speaker 1: awesome amount of value because he's so so talented. With
Speaker 1: that being said, he's a high, high, high upside wider three. Ideally,
Speaker 1: his ADP is picked now in fantasy fronts. That's very high.
Speaker 1: It's very high. That's the fourth front. I've seen him
Speaker 1: more than the fifth or sixth. I don't want to
Speaker 1: do it. Let's look about Sammy walking too, some of
Speaker 1: these other wide receiver threes when we come back. Fantasy
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Speaker 1: My name is Greg Sussman, and it is that time
Speaker 1: of the week every Thursday. We'll go back to the
Speaker 1: wide receiver threes, including Sammy Walkings in a few moments,
Speaker 1: but it is now time to welcome to her good
Speaker 1: friend from inside Injuries. It is Virginia Zakas. What's going on, Virginia? Yeh,
Speaker 1: good afternoon. How are you doing well? Staying very busy
Speaker 1: with all of these injuries? Yeah, a lot of injuries
Speaker 1: as training camp tends to wrap up a note a
Speaker 1: day or two left for teams as they get into
Speaker 1: their third preseason game. Now, the biggest injury, or the
Speaker 1: strangest injury, or the one we know at least about,
Speaker 1: is when I asked you this morning and I said,
Speaker 1: Virginia an email this morning in regards to Travis Frederick,
Speaker 1: the center for Dallas that has a major autoimmune um
Speaker 1: disorder of some sort, and the wharton last night was
Speaker 1: that he could miss multiple weeks. I read something he
Speaker 1: can miss the season. I don't know much about this
Speaker 1: at all, but certainly the Zack Martin banged up along
Speaker 1: the offensive line, Tyronne Smith having back issues permanently, this
Speaker 1: offensive line for Dallas is decimated right now. How serious
Speaker 1: is this disease or disorder for Travis Frederick? Yeah, this
Speaker 1: is potentially pretty serious. Um So he has Geyan Barre syndrome.
Speaker 1: It's a rare neurological nerve disorder, so it attacks the
Speaker 1: peripheral nervous system. UM. It's going to affect his you know,
Speaker 1: armed legs, UM, really any muscles and joints. So it
Speaker 1: typically starts by you feel some tingless and tingling in
Speaker 1: your feet, your hands. UM. It leads to weakness and fatigue,
Speaker 1: which you know obviously all of that would affec him
Speaker 1: on the football field. UM. Earlier you catch it, the better,
Speaker 1: and it sounds like he caught it pretty early. And
Speaker 1: there are some medications you can take UM that help
Speaker 1: with the symptoms. Unfortunately, it's not something that's going to
Speaker 1: be totally cured UM. And there's really no way at
Speaker 1: this point to say if he can be back um
Speaker 1: any time this season. I won't say it's impossible, UM,
Speaker 1: but I don't think we can necessarily expect it. Virginia.
Speaker 1: Should that mean that we should be dropping Zeki? Which
Speaker 1: is it just sounds crazy because as often he's going
Speaker 1: to touch the ball, he's still extremely young too. But
Speaker 1: given all the injuries and these guys banged up on
Speaker 1: the offensive line for the Cowboys, should we be lowering
Speaker 1: the status of Ezekil Elliott? Uh? Yeah, at this point
Speaker 1: I definitely would. Like I said, I really don't think
Speaker 1: you can expect Frederick to come back this year. If
Speaker 1: he does, you know, great, um, but again, you don't
Speaker 1: know if the symptoms are gonna come back. You don't
Speaker 1: know how playing football is going to affect him. Um.
Speaker 1: Mark Schlareth actually had this back in the nineties. He
Speaker 1: missed the second half of the season. I think it
Speaker 1: was the nine three season when he was diagnosed, and
Speaker 1: he admitted that it took at least halfway through the
Speaker 1: following season before he felt like he really got his
Speaker 1: strength back. So you know, that's over a year. Again,
Speaker 1: every case is different. Some people their symptoms might calm
Speaker 1: down within a few weeks or a month. Some people
Speaker 1: could take years for the symptoms to really subside. So
Speaker 1: we just don't know how this is going to play out.
Speaker 1: And as I was reading about this morning, or chriszy
Speaker 1: Bones was telling me like he thought he had a stinger,
Speaker 1: and that's what you were just talking about with like
Speaker 1: your your hands or your feet or your neck aching
Speaker 1: and not being able to get over it. And that's
Speaker 1: what Travis Frederick has, um and he's gonna have to
Speaker 1: figure out how to I guess manage this and what
Speaker 1: medication and stuff like that. I think I agree with Virginia,
Speaker 1: and you know she does a lot more than I do.
Speaker 1: But this isn't something where hey, it's a spraining ankle
Speaker 1: is gonna heal and you'll you'll be back in a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks or hamstroing like Sayglon Barkley. It's serious.
Speaker 1: So I don't expect and come back anytime to it either,
Speaker 1: especially given the uncertainty. I would go on record to
Speaker 1: say I wouldn't expect them to be back this year.
Speaker 1: And I know, honestly, given the medical advantage that we
Speaker 1: have now, anything is possible. We know that, but I
Speaker 1: would if I'm airing on the side of caution, I
Speaker 1: don't think that he is back this year because obviously
Speaker 1: his overall health comes before you know, seeing him back
Speaker 1: on the football field. But everything I've heard about this
Speaker 1: like it can eventually make its way to your lungs
Speaker 1: and then you need a respirator too. So with that
Speaker 1: being said, I wouldn't expect to see him this year. Greg. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think because of that is that you Elliott, unfortunately,
Speaker 1: you have to have that back of your mind. You
Speaker 1: have to if you want understand dropping behind David Johnson
Speaker 1: in all formats now, No, because I think David Johnson
Speaker 1: still has his you know, he's the same issues. So UM,
Speaker 1: I probably'll change anything, but I think you have to
Speaker 1: consider just keep that in the back of your mind
Speaker 1: for sure. Exactly all right, Virginia, let me get some
Speaker 1: of these other injured players, and in particular, UM, I
Speaker 1: want to start with Rex Burkhead because the news came
Speaker 1: out over the weekend last week. It is a tear
Speaker 1: in his knee and we all heard that. We're like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, and then it comes out of aig
Speaker 1: deal YEA at it last year. He's he's back at
Speaker 1: practice with it. What kind of tear in your knee
Speaker 1: are you're able to play with? I know torminiscus is uh,
Speaker 1: they wind up coming back a week or two later.
Speaker 1: What kind of tear in your knee can Rex Burkehead
Speaker 1: have That He's practicing and seems likely to play, so
Speaker 1: it's more than likely either a meniscus tear like you said,
Speaker 1: or an m c L tear. UM m c LS
Speaker 1: m c L injuries typically don't require surgery unless it's
Speaker 1: a full tear, which is pretty rare UM, so it's
Speaker 1: possible that's what he's dealing with. UM. Meniscus tears typically
Speaker 1: do require surgery UM not always though, or he could
Speaker 1: you know, try to play through it and then if it,
Speaker 1: you know, continues to bother him, he could eventually undergo surgery. UM.
Speaker 1: We're giving him a six week optimal recovery time for this,
Speaker 1: even though even though we don't know exactly what's going on. UM,
Speaker 1: that means he really shouldn't play until mid to late September.
Speaker 1: So it sounds like now that he's returned to practice,
Speaker 1: there's a good chance he'll play a week one. We're
Speaker 1: showing that he shouldn't. He's a very high injury risk. UM.
Speaker 1: You might also remember he injured his other knee last
Speaker 1: year and missed around a month towards the end of
Speaker 1: the season and into the playoffs with the sprained knee.
Speaker 1: So the injuries are really becoming a concern for him
Speaker 1: right to me, Rex Burkehead right now is one of
Speaker 1: the hardest players to figure out where to draft, because
Speaker 1: last weekend, two weekends ago now, when we were drafting,
Speaker 1: he was going in the fifth round. He was really
Speaker 1: shooting up draft wards because of the Showny Michelle injury.
Speaker 1: But I'm worried about this because he can easily re
Speaker 1: injure this or aggravate it, or make it worse, and
Speaker 1: then he's out for multiple weeks. If you ask me,
Speaker 1: the winner here is James White, who I just drafted
Speaker 1: in the tenth round of a Best Ball league. But
Speaker 1: to me, figuring out where Rex Burkett should go and
Speaker 1: draft is one of the hardest things to figure out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's really really hard. And even if the sixth week
Speaker 1: is the optimal recovery time, like we don't we didn't
Speaker 1: know what it's started, right, Like we don't know what
Speaker 1: terror is, We don't know when he tore it, Like
Speaker 1: we don't know anything. But Rex broken. That's kind of
Speaker 1: comes the territory with the Patriots, Like you want to
Speaker 1: we want to like him because they used him in
Speaker 1: every scenario, but it's scary. There is no definite injury,
Speaker 1: there is no definite timetable. We don't know what we're
Speaker 1: working with. And while injuries and drafting injuries and injured
Speaker 1: players are always scary, it's even more so with the
Speaker 1: Patriots because we just don't know anything, and you want
Speaker 1: exposure to the Patriots offense because they're one of the
Speaker 1: most potent in the league. But for me right now,
Speaker 1: if he's still going in that fifth sixth round range,
Speaker 1: I think them just looking in another direction, maybe Jamaal
Speaker 1: Williams and Carlos Hide somebody like that. I just don't
Speaker 1: know how to feel about Rix Burken right now. Given
Speaker 1: this injury of Virginia. I wanted to ask you about
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles wide receiver position, just kind of get
Speaker 1: some updates here because we got the report that Alshon
Speaker 1: Jeffrey could start the year on the publist due to
Speaker 1: this shoulder injury. I think we had dr a On
Speaker 1: about a month ago and he was holding a step
Speaker 1: that was a very distinct possibility, and that's why I've
Speaker 1: been avoiding Jeffrey and all my drafts. With that being said,
Speaker 1: we wanted to move Nelson agil Are up the board
Speaker 1: because we figured he could be the wide receiver one.
Speaker 1: Now he's dealing with an undisclosed lower leg injury, which
Speaker 1: we don't really know much about. So what's going on
Speaker 1: with the Eagles wide receiver situation and who will be
Speaker 1: there in Week one? Um? So I'll start with Alshon
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Um, he had surgery back in February to repair
Speaker 1: the torn rotator cuff UM where we showed all along
Speaker 1: a thirty week optimal recovery time which puts his um,
Speaker 1: you know, makes his shoulder which should be close to
Speaker 1: a hundred percent in early September. But that doesn't mean
Speaker 1: that he's ready to play football. Just because his shoulder
Speaker 1: is fully hell doesn't mean he's he's ready. He's still
Speaker 1: gonna need a few weeks to get back into contact drills, UM,
Speaker 1: really get his conditioning up to speed, that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: So starting the season on the PP list is a
Speaker 1: definite possibility. UM. You know, just don't know what's going
Speaker 1: to happen there. But I think if you're one of
Speaker 1: his fantasy owners, you can't expect him to be anywhere
Speaker 1: near one until probably early October. UM. Nelson Agila, Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: we don't really know what's going on with him. UM.
Speaker 1: His injury risk has improved to elevate it, though it
Speaker 1: was high when we originally learned about his injury. UM,
Speaker 1: it's looking like he's going to be ready week one.
Speaker 1: He's been doing some work on the side field, which
Speaker 1: is you know a little bit of an improvement. UM,
Speaker 1: so I think I think more than likely he'll be
Speaker 1: out there, but it's definitely something to keep watching over
Speaker 1: the next few weeks. We're chatting with Virginia Zogas from
Speaker 1: Inside Injuries giving us low down on the Philadelphia Eagle
Speaker 1: wide receivers. We were mentioning running backs and who would
Speaker 1: take instead of Rex Burkhead and a little bit later on,
Speaker 1: I've been kind of all over the Colts and in
Speaker 1: particular Jordan Wilkins is and he Behinds has struggled with fumbling,
Speaker 1: and Marlon Mack has struggled getting healthy and being on
Speaker 1: the field. Mac hurt himself a few weeks back in
Speaker 1: the first preseason game, and I haven't read much about
Speaker 1: him since. What is the latest the Marlin Mac? So
Speaker 1: it doesn't sound like he's practiced at all since injuring
Speaker 1: his hamstring. Um, we're showing a moderate strain, which comes
Speaker 1: with the four week optimal recovery time, so he's really
Speaker 1: going to be pushing it to be ready week one. UM. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: this is also one of those situations he spent most
Speaker 1: of the off season recovering from surgery to repair a
Speaker 1: torn laboram so you know, We're just talking about alshon
Speaker 1: Jeffrey getting the rest of his body in shape, even
Speaker 1: if his shoulders healed. This is a prime example of
Speaker 1: that UM first game injurs as hamstring, so UM unclear
Speaker 1: if he's going to be ready to go week one
Speaker 1: in Max's injury risk does remain UM elevated right now,
Speaker 1: so it's still there's still a lot of concern with him, Virginia.
Speaker 1: T Y Hilton didn't appear in nights preseason game. He
Speaker 1: is suffering from a shoulder sprain. Right now, we already
Speaker 1: have all of the concerns regarding Andrew Luck. We know
Speaker 1: that t Y Hilton's fantasy value is tied into Andrew
Speaker 1: Luck and the health of Andrew Luck. We also need
Speaker 1: t Y Hilton to be healthy as well, so dealing
Speaker 1: with a shoulders brain UM, what's his optimal recovery time
Speaker 1: and will he be come week one? So things actually
Speaker 1: look pretty good for t Y Hilton UM one week
Speaker 1: optimal recovery time, so he should he should be really close. UM.
Speaker 1: He even returned to practice yesterday, unclear how much he participated,
Speaker 1: but he was out there. UM, and his health performance
Speaker 1: factor is already back up at peak, So We expect
Speaker 1: him to perform well, be ready to go by week one.
Speaker 1: He might not play in their next preseason game, just
Speaker 1: to be safe, but but he should be good to
Speaker 1: go week one. Nor concerns here. All Right, there you go,
Speaker 1: that's pretty good news. It's obviously very positive with t
Speaker 1: Y Hilton. We talked about him yesterday in Relationship Dog Baldwin,
Speaker 1: which we rather have back at. T Y Hilton should
Speaker 1: be good to go for week one, should kind of
Speaker 1: ease some of those fears that we mentioned on Sarday Show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's interesting, right t Y Hilton versus Doug Baldwin
Speaker 1: right now, both guys dealing with their own injuries. But
Speaker 1: I think the thing that separates Baldwin from Hilton is
Speaker 1: the fact that he has healthy Russell Wilson and the
Speaker 1: targetic share we know is gonna be there. Like I said, so,
Speaker 1: I'm still I'm still ranking Doug Baldwin over t Y Hilton.
Speaker 1: I think it's very close, but both should be in
Speaker 1: that two three swing range in my opinion. Over to
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, AJ mccaren went down and immediately the
Speaker 1: thought was a broken collar bone, which kept Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: out for for like eight weeks last year, and he's
Speaker 1: done it a couple of times, and then we hear that, oh,
Speaker 1: maybe it's not a broken collar bone. And he was
Speaker 1: back at practice in a limited fashion yesterday. All kind
Speaker 1: of strange. Leshaw McCoy, it's been weird with him too
Speaker 1: in Buffalo, given the circumstances surrounding his legal situation and
Speaker 1: an injury that has knocked him out of practice for
Speaker 1: a bit. What are you hearing and seeing and reading
Speaker 1: when it comes to a G. Mccaren and Leshawn McCoy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so AJ McCarron, we're showing a mild shoulder spring um
Speaker 1: means around two weeks right to fully heell. Um, but
Speaker 1: he could be ready to go week one. Um. He's
Speaker 1: still dealing with some streness, which is pretty common. UM.
Speaker 1: His health performance factors also below average for right now.
Speaker 1: It is slowly improving. UM, but right now there's a
Speaker 1: little bit of concern, but again not not too much
Speaker 1: concern there. Um. Lashawn McCoy was actually one of the
Speaker 1: few running backs who started the season at a high
Speaker 1: injury risk who wasn't currently recovering for many off season
Speaker 1: surgeries or anything. So We've been very concerned about him
Speaker 1: all along. Now he's dealing with this minor groin string um.
Speaker 1: He also dealt with a mild groin injury last year,
Speaker 1: some general storreness early in the season, along with quite
Speaker 1: a few other injuries that included his ankle, knee, and
Speaker 1: wrist um. So Lashawn McCoy is someone we're telling everyone
Speaker 1: to stay away from in drafts. Um. He's still a
Speaker 1: high injury risk, his health performance factor is poor, and
Speaker 1: he's not going to be fully recovered from this until
Speaker 1: early September. Is there any one singular player that has
Speaker 1: more soben for off like your draft list and McCoy, Yeah,
Speaker 1: La Miller, Lamar Miller really yea, even at his even
Speaker 1: where he's going, you're just not gonna do it, even
Speaker 1: though he's wanted to send healthy. Well, that tells you
Speaker 1: how Greg Susman feels about Lamar Miller. Virginia. I wanted
Speaker 1: to ask you about Delaney Walker because he's dealing with
Speaker 1: this toe injury, which I don't know how great that
Speaker 1: is given the fact that he's thirty four years old now.
Speaker 1: And you know, I like Delaney Walker coming into the
Speaker 1: draft season because he's been incredibly consistent, and I thought
Speaker 1: he would be so once again, but he's now missed
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks dealing with this toe injury. Given
Speaker 1: his age as well, I mean, are we starting to
Speaker 1: see like the breakdown of Delaney Walker or do you
Speaker 1: have something that says that he's actually going to be
Speaker 1: better than this? Yeah, before the season, he's also one
Speaker 1: of these players that we kind of warned about lots
Speaker 1: of injuries. Hasn't really missed that many games in his past,
Speaker 1: but he's always dealing with something. Um, we said this
Speaker 1: could be the year that it all catches up to him.
Speaker 1: Of course, now he's already dealing with this toe injury.
Speaker 1: Sounds like he either you know, got it stepped on
Speaker 1: or got kicked during a play. Um. If that's the case,
Speaker 1: it's probably just a you know, a bruise that's pretty
Speaker 1: painful but not too much of a long term concern.
Speaker 1: But his lengthy injury history is a serious concern um.
Speaker 1: And that includes multiple concussions as well, So he's an
Speaker 1: elevated injury risk right now. UM, I don't really see
Speaker 1: him being close to a at any point this season,
Speaker 1: even if he does try to play through whatever injury
Speaker 1: he happens to be dealing with that week. Yeah, Delanney Walker.
Speaker 1: One of the reasons I was not down on him
Speaker 1: and as high as people were is exactly what Virginia
Speaker 1: was saying. Right, there's just a lot of wear and
Speaker 1: tear in the body. Yeah, he's played almost every game,
Speaker 1: but the wear and tear is going to catch up
Speaker 1: at some point. He's a big man that gets beaten
Speaker 1: down a lot, and right now he's banged up. He
Speaker 1: should be fine. You hurt it, but long term, I
Speaker 1: just don't know if it's all sustainable. Well, you can't
Speaker 1: say all that and it's still like Greg Olsen, Gregg.
Speaker 1: It's true, Okay, Alston was awesome until last year. It
Speaker 1: was the first time he got injured. Ever. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: all all everything catching up to Olsen, maybe to being
Speaker 1: a players that are always injured. Devonte Parker hurt his
Speaker 1: hand now and it's the latest of the long line
Speaker 1: of injuries Rejavonte Parker. Is he gonna be good to
Speaker 1: go a week one? No, so we U we're showing
Speaker 1: a seven week Optimore recovery time for his um. You know,
Speaker 1: originally they said, yeah, he'll be find week one it's
Speaker 1: four weeks away or whatever. Now they're saying his Week
Speaker 1: one status is up in the air. UM, I don't
Speaker 1: think he's gonna play. If he does, drops will become
Speaker 1: a serious concern. He's probably not going to be as
Speaker 1: aggressive as route running. UM. And as you mentioned, he's
Speaker 1: had all of these, you know, this long list of
Speaker 1: injuries in the last few years that includes angle sprains,
Speaker 1: hamstring strain, foot fracture, UM, some pretty sperioce stuff, especially
Speaker 1: for a wide receiver. So I don't think he'll play
Speaker 1: Week one. If he does, he won't be anywhere near one.
Speaker 1: He's a very high injury risk right now, poor health,
Speaker 1: performance factor. UM. Things are obviously just not looking good
Speaker 1: all around for him. Greg, How are you treating Kenny
Speaker 1: Stills with this news right? Because he's just firing up,
Speaker 1: He's moving up the draft, seeing him going in the
Speaker 1: nine tenth round. He could easily be the top target
Speaker 1: getter on this team. I'm telling you the top target
Speaker 1: gethers gonna be Danny Amndola. And I've been saying that.
Speaker 1: I've been saying that on a per game basis, he's
Speaker 1: gonna play about six games, right perfect, Virginia. We started
Speaker 1: with an offensive lineman. I want to end with an
Speaker 1: offensive lineman, Matt Khalil. It looks like it is now
Speaker 1: week to week with an injury. No, he had surgery.
Speaker 1: Now Christian McCaffrey has been shooting up draft boards because
Speaker 1: he's looked amazing in the summer. But this is a
Speaker 1: team that lost Andrew Norwell to free agency, lost an
Speaker 1: offensive lineman due to injury. Believe he's torn his a
Speaker 1: c L. Now Matt Khalil is hurt as well. The
Speaker 1: Panther's offensive line is really beat up. Yeah, so he
Speaker 1: had his niece scoped. It's the second time he's had
Speaker 1: this happened. Actually, back in he had both me scoped.
Speaker 1: UM more than likely either like trimming a meniscus, cleaning
Speaker 1: up some scar tissue, UM, dealing with a bone spur,
Speaker 1: could be anything like that, which going a seven week
Speaker 1: optimal recovery time. So he shouldn't return until early October. UM.
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think he's gonna miss that much time,
Speaker 1: but his injury risk is high right now and it's
Speaker 1: going to be that way probably up through the end
Speaker 1: of September. UM. There's definitely a good bit of concern here. Again,
Speaker 1: because he's had multiple problems with the same so um
Speaker 1: fairly concerned about his health going forward. And I'm worried
Speaker 1: about this offensive line overall. For Christian McCaffrey, it's tough
Speaker 1: to balance what he's doing in the preseason then kind
Speaker 1: of mediate that because you have all these woes to
Speaker 1: the offensive line, these injury woes and the fact that
Speaker 1: they lost Norwell too, so we already didn't like this
Speaker 1: unit and now they lost Khalil as well. I'm worried
Speaker 1: about the offensive line, although I do like the talent
Speaker 1: of McCaffrey. It's it's tough right now. Greg Virginia, we
Speaker 1: appreciate the time is always do it again next week.
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Speaker 1: dot com slash sweat. For years talking to Virginia, we
Speaker 1: wanted to get into Sammy Watkins a little bit. Now.
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins, I'm never that guy that grabs him. I
Speaker 1: he's one of these players they feel like, if he's
Speaker 1: the highest wide receiver on the board, I'll probably go
Speaker 1: in a different direction. I know there's a lot of
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins truthers out there, Frankie, I'm not one of them.
Speaker 1: I normally am not one of them. I have him
Speaker 1: ranked as my wide receiver twenty seven. Originally I was
Speaker 1: a little bit higher on him. This is just this
Speaker 1: is a play to get some exposure to the Chief's offense.
Speaker 1: If you're excited about Patrick Mahomes, I think their defense
Speaker 1: isn't as good as it has been in years past.
Speaker 1: But if you're excited about that offense and you want exposure.
Speaker 1: I think the best way to do so is if
Speaker 1: you can invest your first round pick in Kareem Hunt.
Speaker 1: You can't invest your third round pick in one of
Speaker 1: Kelsey or Tyreek Hill. You use maybe your sixth or
Speaker 1: seventh round pick on a Sammy Watkins. I think that's
Speaker 1: a good way to get exposure to this Chief's offense. Look,
Speaker 1: he hasn't he hasn't been what we've expected out of him,
Speaker 1: but I think the talent is there. He just needs
Speaker 1: the right opportunity. Um. I think the target share is
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting how it's gonna be distributed with with
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs. I could see all three of
Speaker 1: these guys in a similar range. Maybe you know, Kelsey
Speaker 1: had a hundred and ten targets, Tyreek Hill a hundred
Speaker 1: and ten, and I think Sammy Watkins is probably right
Speaker 1: around a hundred as well, So maybe they take away
Speaker 1: from each other. Sammy Watkins probably a better best ball play.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be hard to figure out, but that's why
Speaker 1: you're getting him as your wide receiver three, sometimes even
Speaker 1: your wide receiver four if you are stacking that position,
Speaker 1: because you can you can absorb that volatility weekend and
Speaker 1: week out based on where you're getting him. You don't
Speaker 1: have to pay the third or fourth or fifth round
Speaker 1: price tech that you have in years past. He's going
Speaker 1: a little bit later than that. Greg. You know, it's
Speaker 1: interesting because Corey mentioned it on Carton's show, and I
Speaker 1: think maybe I'll talk about a little bit later on
Speaker 1: today as well. But Travis Kelsey is still going very
Speaker 1: very highly, the second rank, the second ranked tight end
Speaker 1: in fantasy circles with Patrick go Homes. Like, you don't
Speaker 1: know and you know what the offense is, Like, you
Speaker 1: do know that young quarterbacks rely on their tight ends,
Speaker 1: but we have no idea who the favorite target Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes is going to be. And like there are just
Speaker 1: so many pieces in Kansas City. I don't think every
Speaker 1: single one of them could be fantasy relevant. Maybe Watkins
Speaker 1: is the number one wide receiver, would that surprise me? Now,
Speaker 1: maybe it's Hyree Hill, Maybe it is Travis Kelsey, maybe
Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt. Like there's a lot of names here, and
Speaker 1: I don't think all of them are going to warrant
Speaker 1: their draft status. Like Tyreek Hill is going as a
Speaker 1: want a strong wide receiver to Sammy Watkinson is going
Speaker 1: is a strong wide receiver. Three Kareem Hunt is a
Speaker 1: strong wide receiver. One Travis Kelsey running back. One. Travis
Speaker 1: Kelsey is a strong tight end. One. There is a
Speaker 1: lot of Kansas City players going very very early, and some,
Speaker 1: if not all, are going to let you down at
Speaker 1: that draft stock. That's exactly my point for taking him.
Speaker 1: If you want to get in on the Chief's offense
Speaker 1: is if you don't want to invest that third round
Speaker 1: pick in one of the Kelsey or Hill Hill options,
Speaker 1: then you can get Sammy Watkins a little bit later on.
Speaker 1: And like you said, it's kind of there's not a
Speaker 1: little bit later on. I wanted to be relatively like
Speaker 1: two or three later. So it's just it just comes
Speaker 1: down to how you feel about that draft price, that fifth,
Speaker 1: sixth round. Sometimes I've seen him go as late as
Speaker 1: the seventh. But you look at the target breakdown one
Speaker 1: year ago, a hundred and twenty three for Kelsey, a
Speaker 1: hundred and five for Tyreek Hill, Albert Wilson and Demetrius
Speaker 1: Harris combined for about a hundred. It was so that
Speaker 1: could be Sammy Watkins, but maybe Travis Kelsey loses a
Speaker 1: little bit here. I think all three of them can
Speaker 1: be in the similar range of targets. And if you
Speaker 1: ask me, if that's the case, why don't you take
Speaker 1: the guy who's going last of that group get the
Speaker 1: sixth round, who does have the potential would be the
Speaker 1: best out of all of them. Realistically, that's probably one
Speaker 1: of the reasons I'm not gonna be in on Travis
Speaker 1: Kelsey this year. Juju Smith Schuster is a name that
Speaker 1: for you, like you were saying, how you're not never
Speaker 1: really the Sammy Watkins guy. I didn't expect to be
Speaker 1: at Judu Smith Schuster guy. But the more I've read
Speaker 1: and the more I've seen his draft stock fall a
Speaker 1: little bit, join me, Join me, Greg, I'm getting in
Speaker 1: Like the price has become right. I thought he was
Speaker 1: gonna go for much more than he is going for
Speaker 1: now with this ADP that he still cost a lot um.
Speaker 1: In my auction, he was thirty one dollar, a price
Speaker 1: that I isn't willing to pay, but a DP wise,
Speaker 1: I think he's coming in around the right spot for him.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, he's going in the fourth round range,
Speaker 1: like I mentioned, Um, yeah, it's look, if you want
Speaker 1: to take the upside play in the fourth round over
Speaker 1: to Mary Thomas, I get it. People have concerns over
Speaker 1: uh Antonio Brown being the number one target, Levian Bell
Speaker 1: being there as well. Um, and now we're seeing the
Speaker 1: rookie wide receiver. I mean, James Washington, UH have a
Speaker 1: big preseason as well. But look, we were all excited
Speaker 1: about Mark Tavis Bryant last year. He was going in
Speaker 1: the fourth fifth round range. To me, Juju Smith Schuster
Speaker 1: is a better all around player then Mark Tavis Bryant.
Speaker 1: He can get behind the defense, he can work in
Speaker 1: the slot, which is what they've talked about. They used
Speaker 1: him a ton of the red zone last year too.
Speaker 1: And think about this, if anything happens to Antonio Brown
Speaker 1: throughout the season, you have a top twelve wide receiver easily.
Speaker 1: So I think he can based on the defenses zoning
Speaker 1: in on trying to stop Antonio Brown and Levian Bell,
Speaker 1: there's just going to be so much. Even if Juju
Speaker 1: isn't getting a ton of hard it's weekend a week out,
Speaker 1: the target that he is going to get are going
Speaker 1: to be quality, quality targets. Is Juju somebody that you're
Speaker 1: comfortable with as a wide receiver too, or does he
Speaker 1: have to be a wide receiver three for you. Ideally
Speaker 1: you'd want him as your wide receiver three, but that's
Speaker 1: that's not happening in the fourth round. I would want
Speaker 1: a strong wide receiver one if I get him as
Speaker 1: my wide receiver too. Did you start your team Antonio Brown? Juju,
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown running back, running back? And then Juju, I
Speaker 1: mean the Steelers offense is gonna be great. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's I don't think it's terrible, and
Speaker 1: then drapping roundless broker, No, I wouldn't do it. Okay,
Speaker 1: you mentioned before Corey Davis and how he could be
Speaker 1: somebody that you paired with to Marius Thomas, Corey Davis
Speaker 1: all right in the middle of this wide receiver three.
Speaker 1: Uh circuit. Evan Silva was tweeting earlier this morning about Corey.
Speaker 1: But an article from Beat Reporter in Tennessee of Corey
Speaker 1: Davis moving all around the formation. Last year he was
Speaker 1: in one spot and let's be clear, struggled out of
Speaker 1: that one X spot. Now they moved them around to
Speaker 1: the X, the Z, and the slot, so he's everywhere
Speaker 1: in the offense. Um Rachard Matthews. Still I don't believe
Speaker 1: it's practicing even though he got that contract. Uh. Super
Speaker 1: weird situation. Matthews right now not practicing but gets an extension.
Speaker 1: Corey Davis has that first top ten pedigree. We mentioned
Speaker 1: him earlier this week. I believe when we're talking about
Speaker 1: Mike Williams, so Robert Robert, Robert Woods's next up for me.
Speaker 1: But Corey Davis, Um, I think he's perfect wide receiver three.
Speaker 1: I think it's perfect wide receiver three. When you have
Speaker 1: two wide receivers you like that are solid. Um. It
Speaker 1: reminds me almost of in fantasy baseball, where you took
Speaker 1: a shot on a Louis Castio and backed it up
Speaker 1: with a Kyle Hendrix because you had the safety of
Speaker 1: Kyle hend that you wouldn't be doing very good and
Speaker 1: fantasy I'm in the first place and I did that. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I mean, how did you do that? Because I'm awesome?
Speaker 1: There you go, thank you? And I did that. That
Speaker 1: reminds me of to Marius Thomas and Corey Davis. If
Speaker 1: I'm able to do it, I don't know if you
Speaker 1: can manage that. If you can do that, I think
Speaker 1: you put yourself in a really good spot. Another guy
Speaker 1: you could do that. With two is Golden Tate, Right,
Speaker 1: if you do Golden Tate, Corey Davis or Jarvis Landry,
Speaker 1: Corey Davis get one of those safe guys who you
Speaker 1: know are want to get those receptions. Uh, And really
Speaker 1: they back up the fact that Corey Davis is going
Speaker 1: to have some volatility. The biggest reason, you know, some
Speaker 1: people might ask why is Mike Williams going so far
Speaker 1: after where Corey Davis is going? Yet they were drafted
Speaker 1: very similarly in the NFL Draft. The thing is, Keenan
Speaker 1: Allen is still the number one target for the Los
Speaker 1: Angeles Chargers, So you don't know what the target share
Speaker 1: ultimately is going to look like for Mike Williams. But
Speaker 1: Corey Davis is set up here for to have that
Speaker 1: twenty percent target share, to have, you know, a hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty plus targets this season. He flashed a little
Speaker 1: bit in the playoffs last year, the sixty yards two
Speaker 1: touchdowns against the New England Patriots. And what do we
Speaker 1: talk about right, Well, yesterday we mentioned offensive coordinators, new
Speaker 1: offenses coming in. Mike Malarkey was the was calling the
Speaker 1: place for this team last year, a very very stale
Speaker 1: offense for the Tennessee Titans. Now they bring in Matt Lafleur.
Speaker 1: They're moving him all over the field. This is what
Speaker 1: you want to hear about a young wider re skier
Speaker 1: getting more opportunity, who could be the number one target
Speaker 1: in his offense. Love him as a wide receiver three,
Speaker 1: really really wouldn't want to take the chance on him
Speaker 1: as my wide receiver too. But if he's there in
Speaker 1: the fifth round and you already have two wide receivers,
Speaker 1: I love taking that shot because I think he has legitimate,
Speaker 1: like top fifteen upside if he gets targets. I agree,
Speaker 1: and I I'm someone that was burned by him. I
Speaker 1: held on to him literally all season last year. But
Speaker 1: at that draft price as a wide receiver three, I
Speaker 1: will take my shot now. But before we sign off YouTube,
Speaker 1: there's this crew of wide receivers that come next for me.
Speaker 1: Robert Woods, Mannie Sanders, Javison Crowder, Robbie Anderson, Devin Funches,
Speaker 1: Marky's Goodwin and Pierre Garson that I love. I I
Speaker 1: this is that's why it's here. That's the order I
Speaker 1: have in him, and that basically covers the wide receiver three. Um,
Speaker 1: then I get some old guys like ash On Jeffrey,
Speaker 1: Michael Crabston, Randall Cobb. But like these guys, this crew,
Speaker 1: he's awesome. This is where it's at to me, And
Speaker 1: this is why I'm gonna wait a little bit in
Speaker 1: my snakes take a wide receiver in the half PPR
Speaker 1: because I just feel like I just one of these guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is the perfect tier too. If you take two
Speaker 1: wide receivers early on, just kind of wait until like
Speaker 1: the six seventh, eighth round and try to float and
Speaker 1: try to load up on like two or three of
Speaker 1: these guys because they all have legitimate upside. Markis goodwin climbing, climbing,
Speaker 1: climbing up draft boards. Everyone wants the number one wide
Speaker 1: receiver in the Kyle Shanahan offenses. That's how he's been
Speaker 1: talked about. What is the one? Is the number one offense?
Speaker 1: That's the way that they're talking about him right now.
Speaker 1: That he's clicking with Jimmy Garoppolo on all levels throughout
Speaker 1: the field. He's not just a deep threat. I think
Speaker 1: we saw him evolve as an all around wide receiver
Speaker 1: last year. I still worry about the touchdowns. I don't
Speaker 1: know that he's going to be used all that much
Speaker 1: in the red zone. He'll catch a few deep touchdowns
Speaker 1: throughout the year. Maybe he's in that five six range.
Speaker 1: But I think people are just pumping him up a
Speaker 1: little bit too much. If you he's climbing to the
Speaker 1: fifth round of drafts right now, greg I I tweeted
Speaker 1: out about NFFC A DP Risers last night. He's inside
Speaker 1: the top sixty. I think it was pick fifty seven
Speaker 1: over the last three days. To me, if you draft
Speaker 1: him there, you're drafting him for his ultimate upside. Your
Speaker 1: draft him for his ceiling. I don't really like doing that.
Speaker 1: I think Randall cop is an interesting guy too. You know,
Speaker 1: he's it's hard to figure him out. Last night we
Speaker 1: got the rumor that the Packers were shopping him. Ian
Speaker 1: Rappaport shut that down a few hours later, So you
Speaker 1: don't know how the Packers really feel about him. He
Speaker 1: hasn't been in training camp all that much, like he's
Speaker 1: still banged up recovering from this in surgery. In my
Speaker 1: auction league, I I took for a dollar Geronimo Allison.
Speaker 1: That's the dollar. Makeey hollow right exactly exactly. If Cobb
Speaker 1: is traded or let's say Cobb gets released and they
Speaker 1: trying to save some money. You don't want to own
Speaker 1: Alison their own. They owe him a lot of money
Speaker 1: this here too. I think it's like a half eight
Speaker 1: or nine million. It's in that range, so you know
Speaker 1: they can It would be surprising. But maybe they cut
Speaker 1: him before the season. And look, they drafted a bunch
Speaker 1: of wide receivers. What does that tell you. Maybe they
Speaker 1: don't have all the faith in Randall Cobbs. So he's
Speaker 1: an interesting guy if you wanted to fade him right
Speaker 1: now in that round six round seven range to take
Speaker 1: a guy like Emmanuel Sanders, who we've talked about, who
Speaker 1: maybe there's a chance he's the wide receiver one on
Speaker 1: this team this year. Jamison Crowder, who we've heard is
Speaker 1: gonna have a great rapport with Alex Smith this season,
Speaker 1: and it really seems like a match made in heaven.
Speaker 1: Robby Anderson I think the most talented all around wide
Speaker 1: receiver for the Jets. You don't know who Sam Donald
Speaker 1: is going to target. Sam Donald I believe the Week
Speaker 1: one starter for the Jets. But then look there's a
Speaker 1: ton of guys here. Will Fuller has upside with Shaun Watson, back.
Speaker 1: He was great last year. Cooper Cup, Robert Woods again,
Speaker 1: Nelson Agilar. I think you just hope load up on
Speaker 1: as many of these guys in that round six through
Speaker 1: nine range as you possibly could. Frankie, I have very
Speaker 1: high on these wide receiver threes. Right here. With that,
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Speaker 1: New Jersey has the Full Last and the Show three six,
Speaker 1: seven nine. What's going on? Darren Hey, how's it going,
Speaker 1: guys going great? Man? What's up? All right? So all
Speaker 1: the little stuff. I got a draft coming up, So
Speaker 1: I got the first pick in the twelve team PPR.
Speaker 1: I wanted to go deep with now here you have
Speaker 1: off some old line issues. I don't know about that.
Speaker 1: So for the turn for my two three, if I
Speaker 1: was to go wide receiver, wide receiver, what's a good
Speaker 1: pair you'd like to go for that? And then my
Speaker 1: second question, if you can answer, is who will be
Speaker 1: the second back on the fourth four or five turns?
Speaker 1: Actually target? Well, my short answers to watch Frankie's whiteboard
Speaker 1: series top pick. I think that that's the answer. Frank Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think the first pick was one of the first
Speaker 1: ones I did, so you know I recorded that in July.
Speaker 1: Things have changed since then, so we'll help you out
Speaker 1: a little bit here. I think, Look, it's a matter
Speaker 1: of who falls to you at that two three turn. Obviously,
Speaker 1: if you know one of a J Green or Mike
Speaker 1: Evans were to fall to you, you take one of
Speaker 1: those guys. But I think more realistically you're probably looking
Speaker 1: at t Y Hilton, Dog Baldwin Um and the Vikings
Speaker 1: receivers and in the PPR, I would rank it, uh,
Speaker 1: Doug Baldwin, t Y Hilton, Adam thieland Stefon Diggs. I
Speaker 1: think you grab two of those guys to pair with.
Speaker 1: What I would do is take Levian Bell first overall
Speaker 1: in the PPR. I think that makes a lot of sense,
Speaker 1: and then in round four, round five, if you can
Speaker 1: get a Royce Freeman on that four or five turn,
Speaker 1: that ideally that's what you'd want to do. I don't
Speaker 1: know that that's going to be able to happen. Uh,
Speaker 1: it might be more realistic that you do. The strategy
Speaker 1: that Greg employed in his auction is you take mark
Speaker 1: Ingram and you pair him with maybe a Jamal Williams
Speaker 1: later on a good stuff. A lot of good stuff
Speaker 1: coming out about Jamal Williams. So uh, you know, if
Speaker 1: he is the guy, you're pulling him up the draft
Speaker 1: board a little bit there. If you take him at
Speaker 1: the first pick of the fifth round, that's very early
Speaker 1: to take Jamal Williams. But if you wanted to make
Speaker 1: sure you get him, you can lock down your RB
Speaker 1: two position that four or five swing, you can take
Speaker 1: mark Ingram and Jamal Williams. One last call before we
Speaker 1: wrap up. It's rolling in Yonkers. What's up? Rolling? Hey,
Speaker 1: fellas doing great? Man? Got under a minute? What's up? Alright?
Speaker 1: Real quick? So I telling the guy. I have a
Speaker 1: twelve team dynasty league. I have Patrick the Holmes has
Speaker 1: my started quarterback at the moment. We have a draft
Speaker 1: coming up. I also have Kareem Hunt. I have Album Camara.
Speaker 1: I have Davonte Adams. Um. I'm a week at my
Speaker 1: second wive receiver spot. Um right now, I have Davonte
Speaker 1: Parker and Kelly Kenny Gallott on my bench. Greg Olson
Speaker 1: has my tight end and I have uh we got
Speaker 1: ten seconds, dude, what's your question? Man? All right, I
Speaker 1: need help bro the with the draft coming up. I
Speaker 1: need to know should I draft every placement or another quarterback.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't be targeting another receiverge wide receiver. You need that.
Speaker 1: That's that's the position of need in your dynasty. You're
Speaker 1: moving forward. You need that wide receiver position for Frankie Stamvile.
Speaker 1: My name is Greg Sausman. The fantasy foll frenzy comes
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Speaker 1: we hope