1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: So let's put a pin in puppies probably a better phrase. 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Then let's put a pin and puppies all right. Let's 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: put a pin and puppies all right. Josh has changed 4 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: campsite media large. So Rory, I have a riddle for you, 5 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: Jesus Josh, I always wondered, what do you do in 6 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: your spare time? No, I know what has four legs, 7 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: hair all over and the potential to murder you. 8 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: I want to say a dog, but they're so loving 9 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 2: that I'm gonna go cat the answer, ah am, I 10 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: oh for however, many of these we've done, I've never got. 11 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: I've been close, I've never gotten anything right. No, you're 12 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: very close often though, I mean, like I think on 13 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: a you're very I mean because you wanted to say 14 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: dog and you said kat. Yeah, I'm always in the neighborhood. Yeah. 15 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: The answer I was looking for with dog and potentially 16 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 1: your dog. No, not my sweet sweet baby boy. What 17 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: kind of I forget what kind of dog you have? 18 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: Mini poodle? Docs and mixed? I mean, if he's a murderer, 19 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: it's the most unsuspecting kind. This week on Crime List, 20 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,839 Speaker 1: the call is coming from inside the house, perhaps cuddled 21 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: up on your couch, wagging its tail menacingly a long 22 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: walk slash exploration into pets and the crimes they commit. 23 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: Coming up on crime Less. Hello, and welcome back to 24 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: crime List, the podcast that celebrates the amazing creativity of 25 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: the world's dumbest and cutest criminals. I'm Josh Deen, and 26 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: I am the cutest Rory Skofel, just slightly cuter, just 27 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: like just a little alledge. Okay, Rory, listen, I really 28 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: enjoyed working with you. I think it's time we take 29 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: our relationship to the next level. Okay, I think we 30 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: should adopt a pet together. 31 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 2: Okay, not what I was thinking at all, but okay, yes, 32 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 2: I'm down. I'm down to try. 33 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: It'll bond us as co host, really solidify the brand 34 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: of the show like a little mascot. We take care 35 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: of what. 36 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 2: I was picturing too. Would have also bonded us in 37 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 2: a way, but okay, got it. 38 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: Hey, now you did just come from Burning Man, so 39 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 1: I'm changed. I'm forever changed. What we're looking for is 40 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: a creature that exhibits all the qualities of a good 41 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: crime Less episode, and we're gonna go animal by animal 42 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,839 Speaker 1: and analyze its suitability for crimeless mascot, and we're gonna 43 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: start with dogs. Yeah, so I want to play a 44 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: little name game. Sorry, Lane, I'm skipping ahead here. 45 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 2: Not Lane's games, Josh's game games. 46 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: I'm going to give you a dog's name Rory, and 47 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: you tell me the crime. It's guilty of the first 48 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: one's a bit of a freebie. Trigger the chocolate lab trigger, 49 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: all right, murder, A shooting close. It was a shooting, 50 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: so I will give you a point there. Triggers from 51 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: Indiana stepped on a twelve gage shotgun while on a 52 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: hunting trip. The safety of the gun was off, and 53 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: he shot his owner in the foot. 54 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 2: Oh, and that's where you want to keep your gun 55 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 2: is wherever a dog would potentially be walking. That's all 56 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 2: I've ever learned. As someone who's never taken one gun 57 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 2: safety course, I know that's where you want to keep 58 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 2: your gun. 59 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: Well, no, no, number one. Number one is like definitely 60 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: in your child's room, and number two is where you 61 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: walk exactly yeah, on the coffee table. Loaded. All right. 62 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: So here's a local news clip featuring the most Indiana 63 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: man I've ever seen or heard. 64 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 3: Thompson, who's been shooting guns for fifty years believe Saturday's 65 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 3: incident represents a lack of formal training. 66 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: That was more human error than anything. I've hunt with 67 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: dogs and stuff before and never had no problems. Trained 68 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: the dog or else. Get somebody to train the dog 69 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: for great timing on hearing a gunshot as that clip ends. 70 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: Also train your dog. Yeah, definitely not the dog's fault, right, 71 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: Oh of course, I just let me just set this 72 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: down on the ground real quick. I got to run 73 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: to the porta let. What could happen? I liked that 74 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: guy put on as nice as vest for the interview. 75 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: He knew, he knewhere they were coming. Okay, next up, 76 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: what crime did Oreo, the one year old pitbull from 77 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: Memphis commit? Well, you know, Oreo makes me think of 78 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: the hamburglar dressed in white and black stripes, So the 79 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: part of me wants some thing. Oreo got a little 80 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 1: close to the grill. 81 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 2: The most low stakes crime grabbed a burger that wasn't 82 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 2: necessarily for them. 83 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: I mean technically theft, I think, yeah, theft, yeah yeah, 84 00:04:58,800 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: wrong shooting? 85 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 2: Oh okay, so they're also all right, okay grabbing the 86 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 2: theme now okay. 87 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: Uh. The thirty nine year old victim was quote relaxing 88 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: and talking with a female friend on his bed. Love 89 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 1: that when Oreo jumped up to join them. Okay, this 90 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: gets weird the more I read. I guess there was 91 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 1: also a loaded gun in the bed too. Because the 92 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: dog's paul got stuck in the trigger. Discharging the gun, 93 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: Oreo's owner was grazed in the thigh. Oh so fortunate. 94 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 2: But again, as someone who's never taken a gun safety course, 95 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 2: I know the three places you want to leave your 96 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 2: gun are on the ground, and in your bed and 97 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 2: on a coffee table. 98 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: Oh my god, America. Okay, so that's two near missus 99 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: by violent gun crazed canines. Finally we have Charlie, the 100 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: Rottweiler mix. Oh, here we go. What did he do? Rory? 101 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: I mean, I want to say, jumped on a gun 102 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 2: and shot somebody. So, you know, just for I'm gonna 103 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 2: I bet it's a curveball, but I'm gonna go with that. 104 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna play the odds here. No, you're right, 105 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: we should have tricked you, but we didn't. Yes, perfect. 106 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 1: This one happened on a hunting strip. Also, Charlie's owner 107 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: was sitting in his truck and his rifle was in 108 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: the back seat with three dogs, one of which was 109 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,799 Speaker 1: named Charlie. Somehow, while waiting to go chase jack rabbits, 110 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 1: Charlie's paw got stuck in the trigger and he shot 111 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: his dad in the back. Good lord, I just I don't. 112 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 2: I mean, maybe some gun owners don't have any faith 113 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 2: that something bad can happen with a gun. 114 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: I don't know what that is. Let's review. So, loaded 115 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: gun in the back seat along with three animals that 116 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: move around a lot. Yeah, they are definitely not wearing seatbelts. Yeah, 117 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 1: so he could have put the gun in the front 118 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: seat with him and no dogs. Instead he put it 119 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: in the back seat with three dogs and shocker, they 120 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 1: shot him. Yeah, or in the trailer or whatever. Fortunately 121 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: dad also lived. So dogs are just terrible fucking assassins. 122 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: That's the first lesson this week. Like, you don't hire 123 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: a dog to kill somebody. Yeah, they'll fail. And let's 124 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: not let's not act like dogs are dumb. That could 125 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: have been a premeditated attempt at like finally getting to 126 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: move to a new home. Yeah, maybe who's a deck. 127 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 2: Maybe the dogs don't like hunting, you know, maybe maybe 128 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 2: that's sort of the theme. 129 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: Here as opposed to the bedroom one. Right, Yeah, I 130 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: don't know about that. What lesson is he's sending? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 131 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: I don't like you. Get her out of our house. Okay. 132 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: In all seriousness, these were all freak accidents. I will 133 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: tolerate no dogs slander on this podcast. I won't either. 134 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: Very little good in the world, but dogs make up 135 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: ninety percent of what good there is. The other ten percent, 136 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: of course, stand up comedy and podcasts. Thank you, or 137 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: maybe we should save a few percent for burning man. 138 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: Also thank you. So a crime list gets political for 139 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: a second morning. This isn't a dog problem or a 140 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: dog mental health problem. Pretty sure, it's a gun problem. Yeah. 141 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: Since two thousand and four, twenty three people in the 142 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: United States have been shot by dogs, according to GVPDIA, 143 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: a nonprofit dedicated to gun violence prevention. And in case 144 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: you were wondering, America is far and away the leader 145 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: in cases of dogs shooting people, Which is a sentence. 146 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: I can't believe I just said with a straight face. 147 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 2: So are you saying in eleven years, fourteen people have 148 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 2: been shot biopets. 149 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: Twenty three people, twenty three people. 150 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 2: Here's what's so crazy because we're the United States of 151 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:26,679 Speaker 2: America with a billion guns? 152 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: Is that actually a pretty decently low number? Like I 153 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: know all the other countries are at zero, but it's like, 154 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: I mean, fair point, fairpoint in the context of America, 155 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: not that bad, Honestly, Michael Jordan's number, that's pretty cool. 156 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: Anywhere else they're like, are you fucking kidding me? Twenty 157 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: three dogs? If it was one, they'd be like, come on, America, 158 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: We're like, nah, we got time to twenty three that amount. 159 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: Look at you coming back from burning me with a 160 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: positive attitude, putting just a happier spin on all this 161 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: bad news. Hey, maybe we're not so wrong with all 162 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: these guns. I have the weirdest take after coming from Birdingman. 163 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: Maybe guns do serve a purpose? All right, So let's 164 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: let's put a pin in puppies undecided Maybe a little 165 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: too dangerous for our probably better phrase. Then let's put 166 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 1: a pin in puppies? All right? Well, there's the clip 167 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: at the top of the show. Let's put a pin 168 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 1: and puppies. All right, Josh has changed, Josh. I came 169 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: back to a different Josh. Well, let's kick those puppies aside. 170 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: Just slap them out of the way, and all right, 171 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: so maybe you're thinking, after all these dogs and guns, 172 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: that we should get a cat. Oh, all right, not 173 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: so fast. I did find at least one instance, in 174 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: this case in Michigan of a man getting shot by 175 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 1: his cat, same same sort of deal. Well, in two 176 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,599 Speaker 1: thousand and five, a guy named Joseph Stanton left a 177 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: nine millimeter handgun on his kitchen counter, also on the 178 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: list of places destroy your guns. Right, yeah, this falls 179 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: under coffee table. Okay, it's tall coffee table. A tall 180 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: coffee table is how they labeled this. And so then 181 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: one of his cats did what cats loved to do. 182 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: He jumped up on the counter and knocked the first 183 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 1: thing he saw off the counter. In this case, unfortunately, 184 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: that thing was a gun and it discharged when it 185 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: hit the floor. Stanton was shot in his lower torso, 186 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: but was rushed to the hospital and survived. And the 187 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: cat actually gained one life in this scenario, if you could. Yeah, 188 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: that's right, a one up. But anyway, the real worry 189 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: with cats is not accidents. We should be worried about very, 190 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: very intentional acts of violence. Because a twenty twenty one 191 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: study published in the Journal of research and personality found 192 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: that all cats are psychopaths. 193 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the only study I've ever understood that is 194 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 2: completely correct. 195 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: So researchers in the UK doing the Lord's work here, 196 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: surveyed pet owners to rate their cat's level of psychopathy. 197 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 1: They asked questions like, does your cat torment its prey 198 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 1: rather than killing it straight away? Is it undeterred by punishment? 199 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 1: Does it vocalize for no apparent reason? And as someone 200 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: who owns a cat, I can say yes to all 201 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: of the boat absolutely. Every time I've seen my cat 202 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: with a mouse, refuses to kill the mouse, throws it 203 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: around up in the air, smacks it around, and then 204 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: gets very sad when it ultimately dies of its injuries. Yeah, 205 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: doesn't eat it. Yeah. So researchers believe this psychotic behavior 206 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: is a matter of evolution, that being a big, fluffy 207 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: jerk was helpful in securing food territory, even mating. I guess, yeah, 208 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: that's like a big I'm sure there's a whole part 209 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: of the manosphere that would say we should all act 210 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: more like cats. Hmmm, not a burning man. 211 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 2: I mean we all do in our own We've all 212 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 2: been standoffish before. 213 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: Notice I'm not saying that these cats are smart psychopaths. 214 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: This is crimos after all, These are dumb jerks. Yep. 215 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: For example, in twenty twenty one, the Metropolitan Fire and 216 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: Disaster Department in Soul, South Korea, reported that cats caused 217 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: more than one hundred house fires in the previous three years. Oh, 218 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: I never thought about that. Yep. So a good portion 219 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: of these fires were cats messing with stovetop knobs or 220 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: stepping on electronic buttons of an appliance. Oh man, new 221 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: fear unlocked, Thank you, Josh. Yep. So I guess we 222 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: need those like child prevention safety things on our knobs. Yeah. Yeah, 223 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: And I guess probably the more electronic things get easier 224 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: it is for cats to burn your house down. 225 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 2: And also we'll never know if these were you know, 226 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 2: going against what you just said, these might not be 227 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 2: stupid cats. 228 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: Maybe they weren't accidents. So we're saying these might be 229 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: like ones like, oh, you're going out tonight, why don't 230 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: you go fuck yourself, I'm burning the house down. Oh no, 231 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: more treats. We'll see about that. I mean, the one 232 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: flaw in that plan is that I think cats are 233 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: highly flammable and they can't get out of the house 234 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: without you letting. 235 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 2: So they're like, oh fuck, okay, so smart, vindictive and stupid. 236 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: Yeah right, just a collic sort of like, I'll show you, yeah, 237 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: and also me, damn, I'll show me. So to summarize, 238 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: so far, a dog could shoot you, a cat could 239 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 1: burn down your house. Yeah. Also logistically, I think pretty 240 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: hard to ship or cat or dog back and forth 241 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: between Colorado and New York. Oh good point. So after 242 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: the break, we're gonna go back to the drawing board 243 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: and find a more reasonable animal to be the crimelest mascot. 244 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Crime List. Today, we're learning that we 245 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: should be very afraid of the adorable fur balls we 246 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: welcome into our home. But we're also on the hunt 247 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: for the next greatest dumbest animal criminal. 248 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 2: This is gonna give a leg up to guinea pigs. 249 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 2: That's what this episode's gonna do. A lot of people 250 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 2: are gonna pivot. They go, let's just get a guinea. 251 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: Pig not in Peru because they eat them there, okay, 252 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: or from Peru to save their life. 253 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 2: And then you can see you had to rescue guinea 254 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 2: pig because that's the identity we all want we all 255 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 2: want to say we rescued a pet. God, that's got 256 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 2: to be the worst. You're like, I rescued this dog 257 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 2: and then what happened? It shot me with my gun. 258 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: Because it grew up on the mean streets. Yeah, what 259 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: kind of pets did you have up? 260 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 2: We never had pets. My dad was like very allergic 261 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 2: to dogs. We always wanted a dog. We sort of 262 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 2: had one, but it stayed with my grandparents and it 263 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 2: was a sheep dog, giant fluffy, so fun named Ralph, 264 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 2: But that was kind of it. That was really all 265 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 2: the pets we had until my current dog. So a 266 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 2: big part of me looks at my current dog is 267 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 2: really my first pet, first dog. 268 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, you were denied so much love and joy. 269 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 2: Gotta say, I do love the what you get from 270 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 2: a dog. I mean that unconditional love is like there's 271 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 2: a little lesson to learn in there we as people. 272 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: The only other place you see that is the ply. 273 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 2: You're only going to get that out on the ply 274 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 2: of folks. Dog like behavior through the filter of a human. 275 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: All right, So I was gonna run through some like 276 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: small pets. I thought maybe you'd had some of these, 277 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: but I guess not. So this will be new to you, 278 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: but I will. 279 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 2: I'll be very verbal and vocal about my distaste for 280 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 2: some of these pets. 281 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: Okay, that's not a guinea pig joke. Gross hate them. 282 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: I prefer them fried. Yeah. Oh man, we're gonna get 283 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: so many letters. 284 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 2: Sandwich sandwich form hamsters. Yeah, I mean sure, I don't 285 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 2: get it. I don't get it as a pet, but 286 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 2: I bet it's fun. 287 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, wait till I tell you this. 288 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: Hamsters are known to eat their own babies, So there 289 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: you go. I was right. 290 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 2: So I was right in sort of perceiving their evil 291 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 2: without even knowing it. 292 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: Hard to relate to that. You're a parent, But that's 293 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: hard to relate to that, right. 294 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 2: I've never once wanted to eat my child. It's just 295 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 2: it's never come up. 296 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: So hamster moms can have up to twenty babies in 297 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: one litter, So I guess she has a few despair 298 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: if she gets hungry, a little hungry. But let's cross 299 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: hamsters off the list. Too violent. Yeah, that's intentional violence. Yeah, 300 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: we're gonna move on. How about ferrets. 301 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 2: I bet ferrets can be fun. And I only say 302 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 2: that because I loved that movie beast Master. 303 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: You've seen it. No, you've never seen beast Master. No, 304 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: I have not a horn with a string of a 305 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: black tiger. Josh, you haven't lived. 306 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 2: So you've seen a movie set in a very weird, 307 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 2: distant future. 308 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: And the guy has two ferrets that help him out 309 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: if they. 310 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 2: Talk, Nope, no, nope, but he talks to them and 311 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 2: they seem to understand what he needs. 312 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: Putting it on my list, Well, apparently not filmed in California, 313 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: Puerto Rico, or Hawaii because it's straight up illegal to 314 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: own a fairt as a pet in those places. In 315 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: some municipalities also band ferrets, like New York City. So 316 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: this pets out for me. And if you wonder, why 317 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: are they illegal? Because these long, skinny dudes pose a 318 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: threat to native wildlife? Yeah? What do they what's their prey? 319 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: Is that what it's about? Yeah? I mean I think 320 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: they're only semi domesticated. I mean they're basically weasels. I think, 321 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: which kill? What difference? Lane? You know the difference and weasel? 322 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: And you're not allowed to look it up, Lane, you're 323 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: not allowed to look it up. 324 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 3: I don't know the difference. If I'm not allowed to 325 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 3: look fair enough. 326 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: Let's say, uh, small like a ferret you interpret as cuter, 327 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: and a weasel you just interpret as wearing one of 328 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 1: those like bandanas with the ice cut out so they 329 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 1: can go steal stuff. 330 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 3: A ferret is a domesticated European pole cat, while weasels 331 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 3: are wild animals belonging to the same Mostella genus. 332 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: She didn't look that up. 333 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 3: I didn't look Yeah, no. 334 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 2: No, Nostella genus is a tattoo Lane recently got. So 335 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 2: I fully believe that that's not a new verb. That's 336 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 2: not new verbage for her. 337 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: Also, by the way, in New York City, the native 338 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: wildlife is rats and pigeons, So what the hell we 339 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: would all benefit from ferret's running around. Yeah, you've got 340 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: you've got a good argument to make. I'm going to 341 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: become a single issue voter. That's what I want out 342 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: of my next mayor. Let's legalize fair no matter what, 343 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: Just this one issue all I care about. Yeah, all right, 344 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: let's move on to goldfish. Surely you had a goldfish 345 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: at some point. I kind of forgot about that. 346 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 2: I definitely have had goldfish, and they definitely all died, 347 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 2: every single one of them. I probably would say I've 348 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 2: not had more than five goldfish, so it took me 349 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 2: that many lives to learn my lesson that I'm not 350 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 2: a good caregiver. 351 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I was gonna say, this seems like 352 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: a bad choice for us. For one thing, I think 353 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 1: they're too dumb, not very conniving. Right. The only thing 354 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 1: they do is make our kids very briefly happy at fairs, 355 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: and then they die within days. 356 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 2: And then no one gets any joy from them. And 357 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 2: then you come home and they're floating, and you're like, 358 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 2: that's not that's not a relaxing fish. 359 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: That's a dead fish. That's a lesson in life. So yeah, 360 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: we all repeat that mistake. Well, anyway, it turns out 361 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: they can also cause financial trouble credit card fraud. Huh. 362 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure you're wondering, what the hell are you talking about? Now. 363 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: That's what we call Josh throwing a curveball. Now. I 364 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 1: don't think this is likely to happen to the average 365 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: fish owner, but let me break it down for you. 366 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 1: A famous YouTuber named Muta kami ro I may have 367 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: to replace that in post. 368 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 3: You can call him Maurice. 369 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: I can call Maurice. 370 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was also an option, but I just wanted 371 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 3: to see you pronounce it. 372 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: Blane just made me pronounce it once. Fruit laughs. We're 373 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: gonna call them Maurice. Does he go by Maurice or 374 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: did we just decide? 375 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 3: I just saw reports aka Maurice and I was like, 376 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 3: I don't know how accurate that is, but wu takimuru. 377 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 1: I got closer that time. Okay. Anyway, So this guy Maurice, 378 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: he's known for live streaming his pet fish playing video games. 379 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 1: The account is rigged up to a motion tracking software 380 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 1: that registers his fish's swimming patterns as control inputs. Oh 381 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: my god. Yeah, you would think this wouldn't work, but 382 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, his fish actually beat the game Pokemon 383 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 1: Sapphire after a three ninety five hour run. Geez, how 384 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: did this person land on this particular thing? I don't know, 385 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: but what like, is that a scientific breakthrough? I mean, 386 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 1: if so, we have not heard about it. Maybe we're 387 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: we're telling science right now. Yeah, but anyway, for reference, 388 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: a human gamer could finish it in about thirty hours, 389 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: so it's not Oh never mind, fish are stupid. They 390 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: suck at Pokemon. That fish is terrible at video games. Yeah, 391 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 1: if you're worried about the fish. By the way, Maurice 392 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: switches out his fish player every twelve hours for their health, 393 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: so he's on top of animal welfare here. 394 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 2: Oh good thing, he's letting them put in half a 395 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 2: day before before the shifts end. 396 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: Anyway, In twenty twenty three, the muta Kamara Maury's channel 397 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna stop even trying. Okay, yep, well streaming 398 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: this fish playing another Pokemon game, and about five hours 399 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: in the game crash while he was away, which gave 400 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 1: the fish complete unsupervised access to the owner's Nintendo switch. 401 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 1: The fish swam over to the device's e shop, added 402 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 1: five hundred yen a little under four bucks, and in 403 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: the process exposed to his owner's credit card information to 404 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: the whole live stream. Oh wow. The fish then managed 405 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 1: to use some of his reward points to buy a 406 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 1: new avatar a man playing golf downloaded an N sixty 407 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: four emulator. Then the fish clicked over to PayPal, sent 408 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 1: a set up confirmation email, and then changed the accountant 409 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: name from Mutakimaru to roll Wah wah wahlahlahlahlah was this 410 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: and this was live streaming the entire time that is fascinating. 411 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: Seven hours it was happening before Maury's realized it and 412 00:20:58,560 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 1: shut it down. 413 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 2: This is the most fascinating thing I've ever heard in 414 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 2: my life, to be quite frank, I mean that's truly. 415 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 2: You Like, even just picturing the fish doing this is absurd. 416 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 2: I can't even picture it properly. 417 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it was probably not. I can't 418 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 1: believe I said. I think it had to have not 419 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: been purposeful, like I think what the motion capture like 420 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: the fish doesn't know what it's doing, but the system 421 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 1: has been set up so that its movements do certain things. 422 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 1: So it's just swimming around moving a cursor I think, 423 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 1: which is just clicking randomly on things. Those things happen. 424 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: We have a naysayer in our midst listeners. Looks like 425 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: we have a fish. Looks like we have a fish 426 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: denier amongst us a fish. Would that make you a 427 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: fish truther? I'm a fish I'm actually a fish truther. 428 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 2: And I actually should have said that before we even 429 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 2: agreed to do this podcast together. 430 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 1: I'm a big time fish truther. You like that fish 431 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: do exactly what it was doing. I know Jaws is 432 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: a movie to me that's a real fish. I'm a 433 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: fish truther, So in your version, he purposefully opened to 434 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 1: paypole account. No, I think, I don't know. I mean, 435 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: maybe the fish by playing that guy. 436 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 2: I mean, i'd have to know, Like if the fish 437 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 2: are able to interpret what their goals need to be 438 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 2: in the game, I don't know. Do you think they're 439 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 2: just by happenstance they beat the game. I don't know, 440 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 2: by just swimming around and those physical choices just happened 441 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 2: to line up with the challenge of the game. I 442 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 2: guess I'd have to see it and see the fish 443 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 2: in action to decipher if I felt like that fish 444 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 2: was making calculated decisions. And I can't believe I just 445 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 2: said that sentence, Josh. 446 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: We got a lot of good on account of contact 447 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: sentences to use at the top of this week's episode. 448 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: Use them all, Use every one of them, mashes, stack 449 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: them waterfall. Yeah. Yeah. The chaos stream lasted for seven 450 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: hours before he shut it down. He was able to 451 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 1: get his five hundred yen back. Unclear if his reward 452 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: points were refunded or how far and wide his credit 453 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: card information was right. Yeah, but this gave me an idea. 454 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: We'll set up a bunch of fish and hook them 455 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: up to our own motion tracking software and then set 456 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,679 Speaker 1: them up on some sports betting apps. Oh yeah, it 457 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: can be worse than us. No, that's all luck anyways. Right, 458 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: And we do things like bet on our favorite teams, 459 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: which people say you should never do. Yeah, man versus fish. 460 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: We'll do a live stream you versus a fish? Yeah? 461 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: I like this. Who wins the most? At least for 462 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl? Let's let a fish pick out? Ye, 463 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 1: who's gonna win? All right? Lane? Can we get someone 464 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: to work on that motion tracking software? 465 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 3: Out? 466 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 1: All right? I saved the best for last. How do 467 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 1: you feel about birds? I love birds? 468 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not an ornithologist. Is that the right word. 469 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 2: I'm not a bird watcher. But the older I get, 470 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 2: the more I respect birds. 471 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: So parrots specifically, fan of parent love parrots. That's my 472 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: one exception. It's look, I can't love everybody, Josh. During 473 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,199 Speaker 1: my hundreds of hours of grueling research in search of 474 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: our perfect pet slash mascot, I dove into Reddit naturally, 475 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: and I swam on down into the subreddit are backslash parrots. 476 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: That's the good alley way to get into And there 477 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: was one user there in the same boat as us. 478 00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: He wrote, I'm looking for the perfect pet for me, 479 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: but thinking about parrots. What are some of the things 480 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,239 Speaker 1: people don't tell you before getting a parrot? What are 481 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 1: you expecting to hear the answers? 482 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 2: Have you heard the noise of parrot makes no it's 483 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 2: the fucking worst. They're like squawk or whatever you want 484 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 2: to call it. It's it's jarring. 485 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: So the noisy, that's your main complaint? Too lit noisy. 486 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go noisy. Yeah, first comment. You're gonna be 487 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: surprised by this one. Good. They can literally masturbate, all right. 488 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 2: I didn't know it's going to be in the pro category. 489 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 2: I thought there's gonna be cons. 490 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 1: Foot fetish is extremely common. Don't know whose feet yours 491 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: or it's. 492 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 2: And just to confirm, and uh, and just ask the question. 493 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 2: You said you got this off from a subreddit. 494 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, okayrect got it? Okay, I just want to know 495 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: the source. One reddit user referred to parrots as quote 496 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: eternal toddlers, while another referred to as African gray parrot, 497 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: one popular breed, as a three pound flying can opener. 498 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: Huh okay, I don't want to sell these birds short, 499 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: though they truly are incredible animals. Some species live up 500 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 1: to seventy years, which is grazy, Oh my god, because 501 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: that's at least how long this podcast will run. Yeah 502 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: for sure. Well, per our contract, we have to do 503 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: seventy years. The eternal toddler comment refers to their intelligence. 504 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: Some compare it to that of a four year old, 505 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: which I mean, that's not that impressive. 506 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 2: Honestly, a bird that has the brain of a four 507 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 2: year old, Yeah, I mean I guess that is impressive, right, 508 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 2: Actually don't. I'm not gonna lie. I don't know how 509 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 2: to interpret that information. 510 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 1: Is that smarter or not smart? 511 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 2: I mean, it is a bird with a very small brain, 512 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 2: yet it has the intelligence of a four year old, 513 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,199 Speaker 2: which definitely has a much bigger brain, and it has 514 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 2: really long clause. So what is our expectation of birds? 515 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 2: They should be as smart as a twenty year old person. 516 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 2: Like what we what do we want out of these parents? 517 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: I want my birds to have the intelligence at least 518 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: of a high schooler, to be able to make you 519 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 1: dinner yeah yeah, or to solve like geometry problems or 520 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: a murder yeah, oh, to murder yeah, pull a trigger? 521 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 2: Don't you just really just want it on your shoulder 522 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 2: to be your friend walk around? 523 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, so luck like a pirate. Yes, parrots are 524 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: also extremely trainable. They can learn hundreds of words, so 525 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: we'd have another potential co host on our hands. Yes. 526 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 1: President Andrew Jackson reportedly trained his African gray to squawk profanities, 527 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: and the parrot had to be escorted out of its 528 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: owner's funeral due to persistent cursing. Yep, that's a plus. 529 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: I feel like I think that's pretty dope. The swear 530 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: words are merely a party trick. What's more useful? And 531 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: here we're starting to get into crimes. An alert parrot 532 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: for your drug operation? Uh little heads up? Yep. So 533 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: In twenty nineteen, a parrot in Brazil was taken into 534 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: custody after it attempted to tip off its owners to 535 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: a police raid. It cried, Mum, the police not sure 536 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: why this Brazilian parrot has a British accent. Mum, mum, 537 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 1: the police. Bang is in Mash. We mean bang is 538 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: in Mash police are here. They should have tott it 539 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: a code word and not to say the cop. That's 540 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: why I got arrested because they it had said bangers 541 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: and mash, Yeah, that parrot would be free today. 542 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 2: And it also so willingly said that because it has 543 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 2: no concept of the law anyways, so it didn't understand 544 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 2: the consequence of. 545 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: The police and also what police even are. I feel 546 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: like you've presented the defense for that parrot in court. 547 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 2: That's right, Yes, what do you know the consequence? Do 548 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,239 Speaker 2: you know what the ultimately would happen to it? 549 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know how long it was held 550 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 1: in custody, nor if it was tried. I do know 551 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: that an officer involved in the raid said, as soon 552 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: as the police got close, it started shouting, and oh, 553 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: here's this is a loyal parrot. So since it's a rest, 554 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: it kept quiet. Cops couldn't get him to say a 555 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 1: word yeah, to which one person in Reddit wrote, He's 556 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: a parrot, not a rat like it. Dope, snitches get stitches, 557 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 1: you know what they say? That's right. My guess isn't 558 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: the owner of this parrot spent a lot of time 559 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 1: and effort training him, Because earlier this year, a lesser trained, 560 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: but just as cute parrot helped bring down a drugg 561 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 1: ring in Blackpool, England. Her name is Mango. And here's 562 00:27:55,480 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 1: a video that police found of Mango. I don't know 563 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: if you caught that, Rory, but Mango was saying two 564 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: for twenty five, which police claim is the street price 565 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: of cocaine. 566 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 2: Oh that's a way better deal than what I've been 567 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 2: what I've heard people they're getting on the plia out 568 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 2: on the fly of people are I mean, I don't know, uh, 569 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 2: never mind. 570 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: And in another video Mango said this, what was he doing? 571 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 3: He's hopping around with the money. 572 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: Oh he's got drug money and putting it in the 573 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: money counter. 574 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 3: I think he's helping out. 575 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: Oh Mango, all right. So thanks to Mango, fifteen people 576 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: were arrested in the drug bust, with sentences totally more 577 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: than one hundred and three years. I suspect this. I 578 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: didn't see this, but the videos got online. I think 579 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: in the cop for like, wait a second, I mean, don't. 580 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 2: These birds have the ability to throw their voices to 581 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,959 Speaker 2: sound exactly like a noise they hear pitch perfect, Like 582 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 2: if you were teaching a bird something, they could almost 583 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 2: say it back to you in your your voice. 584 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: Almost, can they? I think? 585 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 2: So, I don't want to fully commit to that answer, 586 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 2: and so I won't, and so I probably should have 587 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 2: not even brought it up. 588 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: So they do impressions like rich little. Is that what 589 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: you're saying. 590 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 2: I think a lot of them are very rich little lesque. 591 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: So what do you think? Is the parrot to the 592 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: parrot be our pet or we just have to accept 593 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: that there is no perfect crimealst mascot. 594 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,959 Speaker 2: I mean, if there's a pet parrot that's just going 595 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 2: to talk back and offer great, that's squawking. 596 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: I just can't deal with. I just can't do it. Well. 597 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: There are terms parrot breeders of America. If you've got 598 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: a parrot that doesn't squawk but sounds like rich Little 599 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: and has always wanted to host a podcast, send it 600 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: here care of Lane After the break, Lane's Games. Welcome 601 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: back to crime List today, Rory, we're ferret legging, the 602 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: very real endurance sport of shoving a ferret down your pants. 603 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: I've already started. Oh, I'm just kidding. That's not a 604 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: fair in my pants? I see you. Oh even honestly, 605 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: even more impressive. Oh Lane, what are we actually doing today? 606 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: In addition to racking up HR violations, Lane's Games. 607 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 3: Lane's Games today on this segment. I don't actually have 608 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 3: a game at all. Oh oh, I have a special 609 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 3: Q and. 610 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: A a special Q and a a. 611 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 3: Special Q and A with a special guest expert that 612 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 3: we were waiting for in this very moment that should 613 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 3: be hopping on pretty soon. 614 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: Ooh is it a parrot? 615 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 3: I don't know. 616 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: Maybe I hope it's a parrot. Look at Lane playing 617 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: games with us. Is it mango? 618 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 3: I wish it was. Well, I wish it was Mango. 619 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: Full out for Mango, Mango serving hard time. 620 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 3: I'll tell you a little bit about the guest. She's 621 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 3: twenty six years old. She lives in here in Chicago. 622 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 2: Oh oh, you weren't lying when you said you would 623 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 2: tell us a little bit about that A little bit. 624 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I still think it's a parent. For the record, 625 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: let's see. 626 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. 627 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: Sorry, have I guess what's happening? I mean, twenty six 628 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: years old? You're right? I mean now that we know 629 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: that parents can live to seventy Yeah, she'd just be 630 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: like a well, they have basically our life span, so 631 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: it's like a it will be a college student parent. 632 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 3: She's texting me now or her assistance texting me now. 633 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: It's definitely a parent or it's an animal some kind obviously, 634 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: but what other animal could possibly participate in a game? 635 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: That's what I would like to there. She is Rory. Look, 636 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: Oh no. 637 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 3: This is Shamrock. 638 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: Shamrock. 639 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 3: Hello, Hello, Okay, yeah, Shamrock. SHAMROCK's my neighbor. She lives 640 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 3: in Chicago. 641 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: Oh my, Shamrock. Oh that works. 642 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's a really good point, Shamrock. 643 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: Shamrock, is there anything you want to do? You want 644 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: to ask us? 645 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 2: When you said Q and a lane, are we asking 646 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 2: Shamrock or Shamrock us? 647 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 3: Either way? If you have some questions for her, she 648 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 3: knows a lot about parrots. 649 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: Oh, Shamrock. 650 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 2: Do you feel if you were ever going to participate 651 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 2: in a criminal activity you would be on the side 652 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 2: of the criminal or on the side of justice. 653 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: That's what I thought. 654 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 2: I thought you'd give me sort of a Loss of 655 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 2: Raptor style response. 656 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 3: Josh, you have any questions for Shamrock. 657 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: Shamrock, what kind of bird are you? What if? 658 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 2: Just in a crystal clear voice, Shamrock was like, Rory, 659 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 2: I don't care for your stand up and I have 660 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 2: to live with that. 661 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: Rory, I'm more of a Dane cook parrot. I like Dane. Oh, 662 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: all right, have you heard my style? You might like it. So, Rory, 663 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: you want to describe Shamrock to the people who don't 664 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: have video. 665 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 2: So everyone who doesn't have video, you're missing out on 666 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 2: a wildly vibe Brent, green and yellow, really beautiful. I 667 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 2: see where Shamrock comes from. Beautiful parrot. And I also 668 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 2: like that this owner provides Shamrock with a great deal 669 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 2: of freedom. There's not a lot of birds you see 670 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 2: on top of the cage, but Shamrock has earned this freedom, 671 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 2: I can tell. 672 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 3: So SHAMROCK's a yellow naped Amazon parrot. Oh okay, and 673 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 3: holding the phone is her assistant Andrew. 674 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: Thank you, Andrew. 675 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 3: Andrew's a volunteer from the Greater Chicago Cage Bird Rescue. 676 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 3: An adoption, Oh, SHAMROCK's great. SHAMROCK's the only guest we've 677 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 3: ever had on this podcast. 678 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: It's to our first guest. Yeah, it's and this is 679 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: where it ends. We're setting quite a bar. All right, 680 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: thank you, Andrew. 681 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 3: Thank you, Andrew, Sure, thank you too. 682 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: So if you adopt Shamrock, we're twenty six. That means 683 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: if it were to live to eighty, it has another 684 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: is that fifty four years, so you would be held 685 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: in fifty four years. Well I'm forty five now, so 686 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: so your child will be inheriting that bird. That's exactly right. 687 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: Oh all right, thanks Lane, that was that was a 688 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 1: nice surprise. Thank you. I enjoyed my time with Shamrock, 689 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: same all right. Crimeless is a production of SmartLess Media, 690 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: Campsite Media and Big Money Players in partnership with iHeart Podcasts. 691 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 1: It's hosted by Rory Scovel and me Josh Dean. Our 692 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,720 Speaker 1: senior producer is Lane Rose. Emma Stimenov is our associate producer. 693 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,439 Speaker 1: This episode was written by Lane Rose and me Josh Dean. 694 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: We're sound designed and engineered by Blake Brook with support 695 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: from Ewan Letram Ewen. Mark McAdam composed our theme song. 696 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: The executive producers that came Upside Media are Vanessa Gregoriatis, 697 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: Matt Cher and me Josh Deans. 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