WEBVTT - Season 06 Episode 30: The Extinguishable Fire (Pt.2 of 2)

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the second and final part of Unexplained,

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<v Speaker 1>Season six, episode thirty, The Inextinguishable Fire. Having successfully routed

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<v Speaker 1>the English army on May fourth, two days later, on

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<v Speaker 1>May sixth, fourteen twenty nine, Joan led a small army

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<v Speaker 1>to storm two more English forts, both of which were

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<v Speaker 1>also successfully captured. That evening, with the d'orphan's army now

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<v Speaker 1>having gained the upper hand in the battle for or Lyons,

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<v Speaker 1>Joan and her fellow soldiers enjoyed a riotous dinner together.

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<v Speaker 1>Spirits were high as Father Jean Pasquarell, who by their

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<v Speaker 1>had anointed himself as Jones's personal chaplain, took a seat

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<v Speaker 1>by the godly child. It was hard to deny the

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<v Speaker 1>wave of optimism that had swelled through the ranks since

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<v Speaker 1>Jones's arrival, But as Pascurel gazed round the room, he

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<v Speaker 1>was troubled by the look on Joan's face as she

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<v Speaker 1>stared off into the middle distance. What is it? He

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<v Speaker 1>asked Joan, who seemed to be in some other place entirely,

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<v Speaker 1>finally snapped out of it. Tomorrow, she said, blood, she'll

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<v Speaker 1>flow from my body above my breast. I will be

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<v Speaker 1>wounded by a shaft. But I shall not die of it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I will remove it with my bare hands. Pascuerrel

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<v Speaker 1>could only stare at her in disbelief. She'd been right before,

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<v Speaker 1>there was no reason to doubt her now. At the time,

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<v Speaker 1>the city of Orleans sat on the north bank of

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<v Speaker 1>the Loire River. By May sixth, the English army had

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<v Speaker 1>been forced to consolidate most of its forces at two

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<v Speaker 1>major points on the opposite side of the river, a

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<v Speaker 1>large turreted gatehouse known as lay to Rell and a

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<v Speaker 1>large earthen rampart known as Boulevart. The French army was

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<v Speaker 1>planning an assault on both of them for the following day. However,

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<v Speaker 1>news of Joan's unnerving vision soon got back to her

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<v Speaker 1>military superiors. With victory and the soldier's morale so finally

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<v Speaker 1>in the balance, it was decided that Joan should stay

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<v Speaker 1>behind at the camp lest the unthinkable should happen, but

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<v Speaker 1>Joan ignored their orders. By the afternoon, the assault had

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<v Speaker 1>been progressing well as all about metal clashed on metal

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<v Speaker 1>and the anguished cries of men rang out. Joan found

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<v Speaker 1>herself standing at the base of lay Torel Gatehouse, helping

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<v Speaker 1>to secure a ladder to scale the walls, when from

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<v Speaker 1>out of nowhere, there came a whistle through the air,

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<v Speaker 1>followed by a blood curdling scream. The French soldiers looked

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<v Speaker 1>on in horror toward Joan, her face pale and stricken,

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<v Speaker 1>her white armor quickly darkening with red, and the long

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<v Speaker 1>shaft of an arrow now sticking out of her neck.

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<v Speaker 1>As the seventeen year old Joan slumped to the floor,

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<v Speaker 1>a group of compatriots quickly dragged her from the battlefield

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<v Speaker 1>and rowed her back to their camp. Before long, rumors

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<v Speaker 1>began to spread that Joan had been killed. The news

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<v Speaker 1>came as a shock to all the French soldiers, immediately

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<v Speaker 1>eviscerating their previously unshakable confidence, while for the English soldiers

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<v Speaker 1>a renewed sense of belief swept over them that all

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<v Speaker 1>was perhaps not divinely fated after all. But just as

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<v Speaker 1>the English army seemed to have clawed back the advantage

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<v Speaker 1>of figure in white, their neck thickly bandaged, was spotted

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<v Speaker 1>approaching on a white steed. Joan was alive and had

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<v Speaker 1>returned to finish what she'd started. Another cry went up

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<v Speaker 1>among the French soldiers as they made one final push,

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<v Speaker 1>repelling the English from the fort once and for all.

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<v Speaker 1>By the end of the following day, all of the

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<v Speaker 1>forts around or Leon had been captured by the Darphan's army.

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<v Speaker 1>The Siege of Lyons, as it would come to be known,

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<v Speaker 1>had finally been lifted. Joan, the Maid of Orlyan, as

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<v Speaker 1>some would come to call her, soon after, had delivered

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what the voices had apparently promised. With Orlyon secure,

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<v Speaker 1>Joan traveled to near by Loche to meet with the Dwarfhan,

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<v Speaker 1>hoping to convince him that now was the time for

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<v Speaker 1>him to head to Rams and anoint himself the true

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<v Speaker 1>king of France. The only problem was that getting there

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<v Speaker 1>men traveling through miles of Anglo Burgundy territory. At first,

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<v Speaker 1>the Darphan and his commanders were unsure about undertaking such

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<v Speaker 1>a potentially dangerous journey, wary of undoing all their recent gains,

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<v Speaker 1>But as Joan continually reminded them, with God on their side,

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<v Speaker 1>there was nothing to fear, and so in late June

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<v Speaker 1>the decision was made to proceed. Forty thousand foot soldiers

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<v Speaker 1>and thirty three thousand cavalry gathered in the town of

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<v Speaker 1>Jeanne and from there. On June twenty ninth, fourteen twenty nine,

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<v Speaker 1>the march began. Along the way, the army faced some

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<v Speaker 1>resistance from towns that were either loyal to the English

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<v Speaker 1>crown or the Duke of Burgundy. Some were bribed to

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<v Speaker 1>allow the Dauphin's army to rest and recuperate, others were

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<v Speaker 1>simply conquered. Plans were made to prevent the Dauphin at

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<v Speaker 1>his army from entering realms, but with the Duke of

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<v Speaker 1>Burgundy Philip the Good, who had been tasked with keeping

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<v Speaker 1>watch over the city duck in Paris at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>in the end, the townspeople were powerless to resist. On

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday July sixteenth, with Joan leading the way, the Dauphan

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<v Speaker 1>and his army marched into Rance. The following day, at

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<v Speaker 1>Bran's Cathedral, the stoic seventeen year old Joan watched on

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<v Speaker 1>from the front of the assembly, proudly displaying her white

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<v Speaker 1>banner as the Dauphan was crowned King Charles the Seventh

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<v Speaker 1>of France, just as she had prophesied all those months ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Despite a failed effort to take back Paris from English control,

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<v Speaker 1>soon after, Joan was heralded for all her services, and

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<v Speaker 1>in December of that year she and her family were

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<v Speaker 1>all ennobled by then King Charles the seventh had returned

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<v Speaker 1>to the Loire Valley, where he was joined by Joan,

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<v Speaker 1>who nued to counsel him. But Joan was restless. She

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<v Speaker 1>had not yet driven the English completely from France, as

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<v Speaker 1>she believed she was meant to do, and the voices

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't stopped either. Shortly after being crowned, King Charles the

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<v Speaker 1>seventh had negotiated a four month truth with the Duke

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<v Speaker 1>of Burgundy, Philippe the Good. This included ceding a number

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<v Speaker 1>of towns back to the Duke in the hope of

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<v Speaker 1>quelling any future military ambitions. However, the residents of those towns,

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<v Speaker 1>many having no doubt been moved by this seemingly divinely

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<v Speaker 1>inspired Joan, were reluctant to submit to him, and so

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<v Speaker 1>the Duke of Burgundy ordered that they be taken back

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<v Speaker 1>by force. One such town was Compiegne, located about fifty

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<v Speaker 1>miles to the north of Paris. In March fourteen thirty,

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<v Speaker 1>Philippe the Good demanded the people of the city surrender

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<v Speaker 1>and allow themselves to be taken over or else he

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<v Speaker 1>would invade, but the townspeople refused his offer. As it

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<v Speaker 1>turned out, little did King Charlesnoe. The Burgundians had no

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<v Speaker 1>intention of stopping with the towns given back to them

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<v Speaker 1>by his treaty. In fact, they planned to take control

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<v Speaker 1>of most of the cities that lined the Ouas River,

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<v Speaker 1>with a view to once again helping secure the north

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<v Speaker 1>of France for the English crown. Joan, however, had foreseen

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<v Speaker 1>the danger, possibly going behind her king's back. Joan marshaled

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred or so troops to help take on the

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<v Speaker 1>Burgundian as they made their way to Compigny. Joan, by

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<v Speaker 1>then only eighteen years old, and her army arrived at

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<v Speaker 1>the town on May fourteenth. After getting involved in a

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<v Speaker 1>number of minor skirmishes with the Burgundian forces over the

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<v Speaker 1>next few days, by May twenty third, Joan and her

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<v Speaker 1>army were eventually pushed back toward Compigny. At some time

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<v Speaker 1>around midday on May twenty third, with the Burgundians gaining

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<v Speaker 1>the upper hand. To spite Joan's protestations, a full retreat

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<v Speaker 1>of French forces was ordered. As the soldiers hastily made

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<v Speaker 1>their way toward the security of Compigny's city walls. Joan

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<v Speaker 1>gallantly put herself at the front of a rear guard

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<v Speaker 1>tasked with protecting the retreating soldiers as they headed for

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<v Speaker 1>the city gates. With the Burgundian soldiers upon them and

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<v Speaker 1>still some way from the gate, Joan could only watch

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<v Speaker 1>with horror as the city's drawbridge was suddenly raised, leaving

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<v Speaker 1>her stranded outside the city. Perhaps in those moments she

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<v Speaker 1>reflected on the prophecy she'd made in March the previous

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<v Speaker 1>year that she would be captured by Midsummer's Day of

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<v Speaker 1>that year, and perhaps felt an air of inevitability about

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<v Speaker 1>what happened next. With nowhere to run, Joan and her

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<v Speaker 1>troops were soon surrounded by Burgundian soldiers, who screamed for

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<v Speaker 1>her to give herself up. Joan refused, but as she

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<v Speaker 1>backed her horse away, a Burgundian crossbowman inched his own

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<v Speaker 1>horse behind her, then grabbed her tunic and yanked her

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<v Speaker 1>down into the mud. Unable to get back in her saddle,

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<v Speaker 1>Joan had no option but to surrender. Joan was imprisoned

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<v Speaker 1>at a castle in Bolliers la Fontaine, ten miles further

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<v Speaker 1>north of Compiegne and by all accounts, is said to

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<v Speaker 1>have been treated reasonably well. True to her indomitable spirit, however,

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<v Speaker 1>she refused to accept her fate. Over the next few months,

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<v Speaker 1>Joan was moved between numerous prisons as she made continued

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<v Speaker 1>efforts to escape, including at one time leaping out of

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<v Speaker 1>a tower into a moat, only to be captured again,

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<v Speaker 1>having knocked herself unconscious when she hit the water. For

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<v Speaker 1>all that she'd achieved and for what she represented to

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<v Speaker 1>supporters of King Charles the seventh, it was only a

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<v Speaker 1>matter of time before she ended up in the hands

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<v Speaker 1>of the English crown. In short, King Henry the sixth

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<v Speaker 1>court feared Joan more than anyone else at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>They feared the awe which she inspired, feared the way

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<v Speaker 1>she shook the church hierarchy in her apparent direct communication

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<v Speaker 1>with God, and hated her prolifically a young woman who

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<v Speaker 1>had dared to beat them. They could not put her

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<v Speaker 1>to death for this, but they could have her tried

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<v Speaker 1>as a witch and a heretic. In late fourteen thirty,

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<v Speaker 1>she was moved to the town of Ruan King Henry

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<v Speaker 1>the sixth headquarters in France and imprisoned to await her trial.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we return back to that grand makeshift court

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<v Speaker 1>room at the Castle of Ruant in February fourteen thirty one,

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<v Speaker 1>as the pale and malnourished Joan, her wrists and ankles

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<v Speaker 1>bound by chains, stands defiantly staring back at those sixty

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<v Speaker 1>pairs of eyes hungrie for blood. Leading her trial was

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<v Speaker 1>Bishop Pierre Cushon, ally to the English Crown. Cushaon was

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<v Speaker 1>charged with accusing Joan of the crimes of heresy, which

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<v Speaker 1>was punishable by death, as well as blasphemy through her

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<v Speaker 1>wearing of traditional men's clothes and for acting on what

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<v Speaker 1>her accusers claimed to be demonic visions. What follow'd was

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<v Speaker 1>a series of hearings lasting from February twenty first through

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<v Speaker 1>to the end of May, in which Joan, despite having

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<v Speaker 1>no lawyers or any counsel at all save for her

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<v Speaker 1>apparent voices, is said to have displayed astonishing control in

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<v Speaker 1>her answers, deftly avoiding saying anything that would unequivocally reveal

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<v Speaker 1>her to be a heretic. Throughout it all, she also

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<v Speaker 1>remained loyal to Charles, even though despite everything she'd done

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<v Speaker 1>for him, not wanting to be associated with the strange

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<v Speaker 1>young woman accused of witchcraft and heresy, He refused to

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<v Speaker 1>come to her aid. What came next remains unclear. On

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<v Speaker 1>May twenty fourth, Joan signed an abjuration, which, in theory,

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<v Speaker 1>acknowledged that she could not be considered a heretic and

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<v Speaker 1>was therefore spared the death penalty. Instead, she was sentenced

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<v Speaker 1>to perpetual imprisonment and ordered never to wear traditional men's

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<v Speaker 1>clothing again. Over the next few days, it is said

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<v Speaker 1>that Joan's guards goaded her with unsuitable clothes and even

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<v Speaker 1>forced her to wear them. Others, however, have suggested that

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<v Speaker 1>Joan had deliberately continued to wear trousers on account of

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<v Speaker 1>the better protection they afforded her from sexual assault. It's

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<v Speaker 1>rumored that a number of guards, and possibly even the

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<v Speaker 1>Earl of Warwick, a loyal servant to King Henry the sixth,

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<v Speaker 1>attempted to rape her while she was in captivity. Either way,

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<v Speaker 1>Bishop Cushon soon received word of Joan's continued transgressions, and

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<v Speaker 1>on May twenty eighth, he and a handful of other

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<v Speaker 1>clerics paid her a visit, with Joan found to indeed

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<v Speaker 1>still be wearing men's clothes. She is then said to

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<v Speaker 1>have claimed that the voice she identified as Saint Catharine

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<v Speaker 1>of Alexandria had been angry with her for signing the abjuration.

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<v Speaker 1>It was clear then to Cushon and his colleagues that

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<v Speaker 1>Joan was a remorseless, determined blasphema who was beyond saving.

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<v Speaker 1>The following day, it was decided by the ecclesiastical court

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<v Speaker 1>that Joan had relapsed into heresy. She was then handed

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<v Speaker 1>over to an English secular court, where she was promptly

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<v Speaker 1>declared a heretic and a witch, and sentenced to death.

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<v Speaker 1>On May thirtieth, fourteen thirty one, a then nineteen year

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<v Speaker 1>old Joan was led out of her prison and taken

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<v Speaker 1>to the Place de beau Marchais, where a huge crowd

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<v Speaker 1>had gathered. In the middle of the square stood a tall,

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<v Speaker 1>plastered pillar surrounded by a large pile of wood. Joan

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<v Speaker 1>was led up to the pillar, then ordered to stop

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<v Speaker 1>and wait as her sentence was read out for all

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<v Speaker 1>to hear. As the words of condemnation rang out through

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<v Speaker 1>the square over the hush of the crowd, Joan openly

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<v Speaker 1>sobbed as she forgave her accusers and asked them to

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<v Speaker 1>pray for her and King Charles the Seventh, the man

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<v Speaker 1>who would one day be the ruler of all France,

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<v Speaker 1>just as the voices had promised her. Joan was then

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<v Speaker 1>grabbed by the executioner and placed against the pillar, which

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<v Speaker 1>had been made or the taller so that the whole

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<v Speaker 1>crowd could witness. The five foot two inch Joan burned

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<v Speaker 1>to death. As the torches were lit, Joan shouted for

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<v Speaker 1>a crucifix. One was hastily fetched from a nearby church

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<v Speaker 1>and brought back to her. Joan clasped it with her hands,

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<v Speaker 1>the last thing she touched before they were placed behind

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<v Speaker 1>her and around the pillar and bound together. Then the

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<v Speaker 1>pyre was lit. As the flames began to crackle and hiss,

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<v Speaker 1>a local Dominican friar kept the crucifix where Joan could

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<v Speaker 1>see it, and quietly began offering the assurances of salvation,

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<v Speaker 1>promising Joan that she would be saved in the eyes

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<v Speaker 1>of God. As the flames grew higher, Joan demanded the

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<v Speaker 1>friar speak louder so she could hear his words above

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<v Speaker 1>the roar of the fire. The crowd gasped as Joan's

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<v Speaker 1>clothes were set alight, and she cried out in agony.

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<v Speaker 1>As the fire continued to grow, its crackling and hissing

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<v Speaker 1>merging with Joan's cries. She is said to have screamed

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<v Speaker 1>the name Jesus six times before finally falling silent. Though

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<v Speaker 1>Joan is thought to have died of asphyxiation sometime before

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<v Speaker 1>the fire really took hold, her body was left to

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<v Speaker 1>burn long after her death. However, her organs proved strangely

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<v Speaker 1>resistant to the flames. It would take another two fires,

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<v Speaker 1>with Jones's diminishing body dragged back and forth across hot coals,

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<v Speaker 1>before it was turned entirely to ash. Despite the loyalty

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<v Speaker 1>to the English Crown of those who participated in Joan's execution,

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<v Speaker 1>it is thought many were left afterward with the distinctly

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<v Speaker 1>uneasy feeling that they had just participated in the burning

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<v Speaker 1>of a saint. In an effort to erase or trace

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<v Speaker 1>of Joan from the culture of France, it was decided

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<v Speaker 1>to throw her ashes into the River Seine, so no

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<v Speaker 1>official place of mourning could ever be established, and those

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<v Speaker 1>who dared to speak fondly of the Maid of All,

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<v Speaker 1>even in hushed tones, faced strict and prompt punishment. However,

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<v Speaker 1>though Joan was gone, her prophecies continued to cast an

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<v Speaker 1>unsettling shadow across the English held regions of France. At

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<v Speaker 1>her trial in March of fourteen thirty one, she'd announced

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<v Speaker 1>that within seven years the English crown would suffer a

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<v Speaker 1>far greater defeat than it had at or Leon, stating

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<v Speaker 1>that they would soon lose everything. Sure Enough, on November twelfth,

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen thirty seven, six years and eight months after Joan's declaration,

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<v Speaker 1>the English Army was finally driven out of Paris. Historians

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<v Speaker 1>recognized this date as the beginning of the end for

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<v Speaker 1>the English Crown's presence in France. The fourteen fifty three

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<v Speaker 1>Battle of Castillon, another fifteen years later, at which the

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<v Speaker 1>English Army was decisively beaten, is considered to mark the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the Hundred Years War, after which the English

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<v Speaker 1>Crown has never once again seriously threatened the sovereignty of France.

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<v Speaker 1>Four years previously, in November of fourteen forty nine, Joan

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<v Speaker 1>was posthumously acquitted of her crimes and remodeled as a

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<v Speaker 1>martyr in the public consciousness. Four hundred and fifty years later,

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen o nine, she was beatified and in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>twenty canonized as a saint, proving that although you can

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<v Speaker 1>destroy the body, a legend as a little harder to extinguish.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the years, with the distance of time only further

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<v Speaker 1>obscuring the real truth of just who Joan was, what

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<v Speaker 1>it was exactly that she said or did. That legend

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<v Speaker 1>has only continued to grow and morph into something far

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<v Speaker 1>more potent than any one person could possibly hope to

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<v Speaker 1>achieve in life. Many have questioned the various stories that

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<v Speaker 1>have come to be associated with the one we now

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<v Speaker 1>know as Joan or shand Arc. The facts of the

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<v Speaker 1>matter are that Joan or shand Arc was not a

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<v Speaker 1>name she used in life. Arc is not a real place,

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<v Speaker 1>and the words attributed to her an illiterate teenager, are

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<v Speaker 1>all second and third hand accounts. But perhaps now and

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<v Speaker 1>even then, the truth never really mattered. What mattered was

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<v Speaker 1>the story, the symbolism of what Joan came to represent,

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<v Speaker 1>because whether you believe she truly was a child of

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<v Speaker 1>destiny led by God to emancipate an entire nation or not,

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<v Speaker 1>for many people just to believe it help to make

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<v Speaker 1>that apparent destiny a manifest reality. To this day, her

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<v Speaker 1>name continues to ring through the halls of history appealing

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