WEBVTT - A New Era w/ Ryan Kehoe 0:00:04.080 --> 0:00:05.399 Hello everyone. 0:00:05.600 --> 0:00:09.160 I'm Devin Simone and I'm Davon Rogers and this is 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:15.280 MTV's official Challenge podcast, back with another episode. It looked hot. 0:00:15.440 --> 0:00:16.400 Why was it so hot? 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:16.680 Day? 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:17.600 Good God? 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:19.920 I don't know, but it almost took Michelle on up 0:00:19.920 --> 0:00:21.800 out of here. Devin was almost single. 0:00:22.280 --> 0:00:25.360 I know. I'm surprised they didn't have the ghost of 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:27.920 Devon's past popping then, you know how they had them 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:32.200 all episode like popping in. I'm surprised she didn't have delusions. 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:35.160 That he was there with hers, but you know who 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:39.080 was there with her, Olivia, and their little friendship is 0:00:39.120 --> 0:00:41.559 just so cute to me. It's like watching them in 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:44.080 the back of that the ambulance truck. It was just 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:46.400 so cute to me. And I was like, Okay, now 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:48.360 you better be there and encourage your friend to stick 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:49.880 it out because my girls ready to go home. 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:54.160 Okay, yeah, yeah, which was interesting to hear Michelle say 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:56.480 like as a whole one. When she was like, oh, 0:00:56.520 --> 0:00:59.160 I think people see me as the weakest player here. 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:02.160 I'm like, girl, and what world? And then too, when 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:05.839 she's like, now that's Devin gone, My why is gone 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:07.759 or a lot of my why is gone? I also 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:10.400 was surprised by that just because she's so We've said 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:12.680 this a million times such as competitible. Yeah, and she's 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:17.360 so competent, so that was really surprising to see. Were 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:20.880 you surprised everybody seemed to be giving theo crap about 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:23.279 how slow him being a runner and like how slow 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:25.880 he was going. Were you surprised by any of the 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:27.720 performances in this daily. 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:30.680 Not with the heat, not with the layer of that heat, 0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:34.040 because we were there, we experienced it, Devin, it hot, 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:36.040 it was hot. It's hot, so I can only imagine 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:38.319 how it was the longer that they were there. So no, 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:40.160 not with that heat, all bets are off. 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:43.360 Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Were you surprised to see Jordan and 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:44.960 Tory come out on top? 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:48.840 No, like it's Jordan and Tory. Absolutely not. I did 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:50.840 think it was so cute though, you know how they 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:53.120 turned around and fists pumped each other. I don't know 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:58.440 them as that duo is terrifying because they are so powerful. 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:02.880 Like that's absolutely And I wonder if because everyone right 0:02:02.920 --> 0:02:05.720 now is so focused on Johnny, but shouldn't you kind 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:07.920 of be paying attention to that, Like, yeah, that's a 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:09.840 little scary. Why aren't we looking at that? 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:10.400 Dad? 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:13.160 Dynamic is super powerful and I love seeing them come 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:16.200 back to this friendship. Now, yeah, we've gone through some 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:18.760 years and some fights and some things, and so I 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:22.040 love I honestly do think when it's not Look it 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:24.000 only works in certain situations, but I do think that 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:27.400 actually when you can be exes that become friends again, 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:29.840 like when you started as friends, became a couple, didn't 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:32.079 work out, made was toxic, but you finally circle back 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:33.560 to that friendship, I actually think that is one hell 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:36.320 of a powerful dynamic, and just in life in general. 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:39.800 So it's cool. And then when you have two crazy 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:43.280 athletes like these two, yeah, I'd be scared, oh if 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:44.560 I were competing because that. 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:46.640 Powerhouse. 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:50.320 That is a superpowerhouse. So Ryan Michelle were the losers 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:55.560 this time. Ryan did the puzzle with no backwards Yeah. Completely, 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:58.160 you couldn't see anything on the puzzle, So I don't 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:01.000 know how that works. And then the shell poor thing 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:04.640 thought she was in Canada. I don't know, she just wasn't, 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:07.080 which is not her fault because heat exhostion is a 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:10.440 real thing, so it is I mean, not her fault 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:14.200 at all. So then we go into the chamber. We 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:18.120 find out it's a male elimination, right, and ultimately, while 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:20.079 both people it sounds like both people kind of get 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:22.680 a boat, it's really the woman that decides. So it's 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:24.960 like even if the guy's not on board, kind of 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:26.600 like in real life, right, like the woman, you know, 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:32.320 the woman in ultimately exactly, it is ultimately making the decision. 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:37.840 And so Tory seems torn at first between because have 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:40.960 we seen this this season so far where one of 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:43.240 the well, I guess probably not because the setup has 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:46.360 changed differently, but like, yeah, okay, we haven't. So what's 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:49.200 interesting is those are there's three targets if you will, right, 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:52.160 and yet one of the three targets already ends up 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:55.320 in elimination because they get last Ryan. So then there's 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:59.400 only two people for Tory and Jordan, but mainly toy 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:03.920 to choose and going against Ryan rather than three target 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:06.800 what there could have been right to say THEO had 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:10.240 lost or something. So so it's really between two people, 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:13.040 one being Ryan's best friend in the house Derek, and 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:17.720 the other being Bananas. And we started to see some 0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:20.240 things kind of pop off with Torrian Bananas in previous 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:24.840 episode and it starts to create a full blown war. 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:28.400 It seems it gives very much a big brother little 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:30.200 sister because even when he walked in and he kind 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:33.120 of like pushed her head to the side, I was like, okay, 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:36.200 now hold on, slow down, right, and then like them 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:38.280 the exchange of going back and forth and then him, 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:40.680 I wish you would like, I'm not gonna lie. That 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:43.080 was one of my favorite moments. Yeah, because I like 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:45.120 that when he was like, I wish you, I wish 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:46.559 you will give me a reason. 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:48.760 You're gonna need to teach him though, how to give 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:51.320 the delivery on that day. I felt like he was reading. 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:53.680 He had rehearsed it a couple of times, and it 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:56.760 came out, but it came out with the conviction of 0:04:56.800 --> 0:05:00.760 a Tyler Perry movie, not necessarily the conviction of like, 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:04.080 you know, like if you had said it or something, 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:06.159 I'm big brother, so I need you to work on 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:09.520 him with that delivery. But I too, I like that 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:12.200 he sort of was like, instead of cowering and running 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:16.720 from it, he was like, you know what, fine, and uh, 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:19.760 yeah that was that was a bit of a badass move. 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:21.159 But I also feel like Tory had to know what 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:23.400 she was doing because Bananas was not wrong. The odds 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:27.960 of Bananas coming back were high. Yeah, not against Ryan, 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:30.680 just in general, like in general, like they're high. 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:34.160 He's been here for since nineteen oh two, girl, okay. 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:39.000 Right before electricity, Like, I you know, so yeah, and 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:41.400 I know apparently we've learned from Devin. There was talks 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:43.680 of Banana sort of saying kind of pulling a Tony 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:45.680 a little bit right, which is like, yeah, I may 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:47.080 not be here, I may not be here, I may 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:47.480 not want. 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:47.680 To be here. 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:51.560 But you think it was strategy though, yes, because well, 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:57.360 well I'll say this whether or not it's strategy or instinct, 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:00.680 because there is still this button, the chat and compressed 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:03.960 where when you're in that competitive mindset or zone or 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:06.960 watching the competition, for some of us, it is still 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:10.719 hard to like turn that off, you know. So like 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:13.280 you can say, like most of the times when I 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:15.000 get a call, I'm not gonna lie. I answer it, 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:17.600 and there's at least one moment that I think about it. 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:21.160 I think about it because even though I say definitively 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:23.200 I won't, there's a part of me that is still 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:25.920 a challenger and kind of you know, it's competitive that way, 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:28.600 and especially for someone like Bananas. Yes, he may be 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:32.440 looking at sort of this new chapter right in his life, 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:34.680 in his career, he has his gym, all these other things, 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:37.359 but at his core, he's still competitive. And so I 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:41.040 find the idea of him laying down his sword easily is. 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:44.320 Just And who knows, maybe even if that was his mindset, 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:46.320 maybe he needed this elimination to get his head back 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:46.520 in the. 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:50.680 Game, right to Mario Kart Mario Karki also Nea Maia 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:55.760 casually world records in Mario, like wait, what. 0:06:56.680 --> 0:06:58.359 I don't even know that that was a thing? 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:01.520 No, And can we backcheck that, like where's the Guinness Book? 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:05.160 Can somebody tweet us or dms please and let us 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:07.880 know the fact checks on that, because it's both impressive 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:11.600 but also you know, absolutely crazy. So then we get 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:14.720 to the arguably the only elimination and challenge history that 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:18.120 I would want to compete in, And is this killer Quads. 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:20.320 It looks so fun, it looks so doable, maybe not 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:23.680 to Ryan but in general, and I too live in 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:26.160 New York and don't drive on a regular basis. But 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:33.400 Bananas ultimately sends home Ryan, and then Bananas is excited 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:36.560 for this, like new power he's drunk with power. This 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:39.040 actually played out so beautiful. I mean, I'm so happy 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:41.560 he's drunk with power, ready to go off to Toy. 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:44.640 You just know Tori's u's on his mouth and TJ's like, 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:49.360 I remember, Tory is not available to be picked, and 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:55.800 then you just see bananas like Flombey Tory was estantic, absolutely, 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:58.120 and so they start yelling at each other, which, like 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:00.360 you said, was kind of brothers sister dynamic. The way 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:02.480 she's yelling at him. She's like, you can eat my 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:05.760 but you know all that. So then he picks women 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:09.480 that are aligned with Tori and Devin as like a 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:10.440 consolation prize. 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:11.240 That was crazy. 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:15.880 Yes, that was an episode I thought that I did 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:16.560 not expect. 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:18.800 I didn't. Well, he did say he was going to 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:21.080 go after Nayat, he did Riet out of his mouth, 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:23.920 so that wasn't a shocker. But coming with the Michelle 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:28.400 well gay not not really because this is still about Devon, right, 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:33.520 so maybe. 0:08:30.400 --> 0:08:33.520 Though, remember they were friends, because that whole point allegedly 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:35.920 of when he was warning Michelle about Devon. 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:41.280 Was because Michelle right right, just to turn around and 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:42.760 not that this game is insane. 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:46.760 I want to know what's in the water in that house. 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:48.520 I want to Devin, if we ever go back, you 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:50.680 better never do me like that. I've already told you 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:52.480 this I have. Do you know how many years have 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:54.920 taken me. You guys can get Davon to commit that 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:57.120 she will never do that to me. This girl's like 0:08:57.160 --> 0:08:59.360 Fort Knox when it comes to trusting people. I feel 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:03.000 like I find achieved my highest level of being in 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:06.320 self in life, that Devon officially trusts me and that 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:10.640 we're like she made friends. It is such an honor. 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:15.920 But no, of course I wouldn't. Of course I wouldn't like. Yeah, no, 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:18.360 we already know how I like to play. I like 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:21.360 people that you can trust their word, which is why 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:23.400 Era three and four make me nervous. And I know 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:25.760 we're not in errors anymore, but I just feel like 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:30.160 they're so wishy washy sometimes yeah, that it just makes it. 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:32.400 I don't like it. I don't like it. Whereas I 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:36.320 feel like the earlier eras, if anything, they're too old 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:38.680 to commit to lies because they know they won't remember 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:40.760 in the morning. And you know, I would fit in 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:43.720 that category. Two girl, I'd be like when people get 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:45.800 mad at us for stuff we said. Two episodes ago 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:47.480 on the podcast. I'm like, wait, now, you don't need 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:49.520 to screenshot it and suited back to me because I 0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:52.280 don't know what I said. I just say it in 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:55.120 the moment and I forget it. Now we can't do 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:58.400 eras anymore because we're no longer doing eras, But I 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:01.679 do want to know you're gold star and time out 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:04.079 to day, So why don't you get off for us? 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:08.840 Okay? Perfect? So my gold stars for this episode are 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:12.120 Jordan and Rachel. I want to get my gold stars 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:15.640 to Jordan because he's just powerhouse, like across the board, 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:18.520 like just watching him in action every single season he 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:21.000 does there's no quit, there's just fight. That's that's all 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:22.960 he knows. All he knows is how to go. So 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:25.480 watching him in this challenge, he did so good and 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:27.920 I was just so proud of him. Rachel. I'm gonna 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:30.920 give it to Rachel because watching her be the even 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:34.120 though the errors are gone, she still is the only 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:38.880 one left and watching how she has carefully attached herself 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:42.200 to different people strategically, and then even down to the 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:45.560 conversation she had with Tory, I said, oh, baby, you 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:48.920 are working this thing like you are working this thing, 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:52.360 and I'm just I'm you know, Rachel, you might have 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:54.360 a little fan over here a little bit, just a 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:58.200 little bit, because I'm very impressed. So she definitely is 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:00.720 one of my stars. So I broke it in half. Yeah, people, 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:03.920 we knew I broke it in half. Okay, my time 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:08.880 out is going to go to Ryan because I I 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:11.760 need help understanding what was the thought process of the puzzle, 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:17.160 like the whole episode, like across the board. I feel 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:20.520 like my friend was just checked out, Like yeah, the 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:22.360 math wasn't math? And how about you? 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:28.280 All right, I am going to uh start with my 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:31.439 gold Star nominees. By the way, I see a lot 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:33.840 of you were someone said that I had a hot take. 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:35.559 Someone on Twitter messaged me and said I had a 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:38.160 hot take about Josh in last week's episode, which is 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:41.160 interesting hot take. But I appreciate so many of you 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:43.720 coming to Josh's defense, and I also appreciate the discourse. 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:47.320 So thank the polite discourse. I appreciate that. So for 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:51.000 my gold Star I have a couple nominees. One of 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:53.600 them would have to be the lols just in general 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:57.600 of all they have ladies of leisures. I like that. 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:00.360 I like what they're about they said, vacations, person shopping. 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:02.120 I'm all about that. I just came back from Japan. 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:04.240 It's a whole vibe love that. Can I get a 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:07.680 T shirt? Ladies, I am in fact down, but I 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:09.400 mean it doesn't mean i'd stick with your alliance, but 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:12.120 just i'd like a T shirt of the LLS and 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:15.240 no promise, Yeah, no promises, but I'd like the teacher that. 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:21.480 I also want to give a nomination to the editors 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:25.840 and Devin in general. It goes to both because the 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:30.960 fact that Devin is not actually in this game anymore, 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:32.120 and yet. 0:12:32.000 --> 0:12:34.280 It's still very present, it's still. 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:36.800 Very much running it. I mean, that's almost as good 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:40.000 as winning. Doesn't pay as well, but it is almost 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:45.600 as good as winning. And uh so, yeah, I think 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:47.800 I'm gonna have to give my gold star to the 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:51.200 editors and Devon on this one because it's very Yeah, 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:54.679 that's just really as impressive as hell. Now for timeouts, 0:12:54.960 --> 0:13:01.000 I'm gonna have to say it's Ryan, Ryan, Ryan, we 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:06.160 love you. I just don't know. I don't yeah, I 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:08.840 don't know what was you know, everybody has a day, 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:12.480 but this seemed to be because we know that like 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:15.760 the competition elimination at least takes place over around three days. 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:19.120 This just wasn't your week, apparently, sir, because between the 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:22.640 driving the ball misplacement, although Bananas was not better with 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:27.160 his balls, which was surprising for a multitude of reasons. 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:30.560 You know, I just it really it really wasn't. Also, 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:32.319 can we point out people have been talking about I 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:34.600 don't remember who said it, but someone said Kyland was 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:38.640 overrated recently on and so the fact that Kylin came 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:40.640 in second, I want to point that out here when 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:43.000 a lot of people are struggling Kylin came in second. 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:45.640 I wonder if people are still thinking that he is 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:47.840 in fact overrated by the way. I never said that 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:49.640 I feel that way or that that was my thoughts, 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:51.640 but I heard a little bit of that happening so 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:53.679 or like a little bit of discourse around that. 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:56.120 So I love that they caught when it clicked for him, 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:59.400 he was like, oh okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:00.600 just so good. It's so good. 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:00.800 Yeah. 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:04.400 It's interesting that Ryan is on both of our timeouts 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:07.280 this week. But the beautiful thing about that is he's 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:08.120 here to clear it up. 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:11.160 We give people a chance. You know, it doesn't mean 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:12.920 that our opinions will change by the interview, but we 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:17.160 do in fact give people a chance, so we definitely 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:19.320 want to hear him out. I just also have to 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:21.920 give a shout out to long Live Murr and one 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:24.840 Quante on Twitter. Appreciate you guys and all the Challenge 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:29.040 love so funny. And also shout out to Katie Casey, 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:31.560 who I met over the weekend, who also is a 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:35.040 big Challenge fan. She's watched every season, So shout out 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:37.800 to Katie. It was fun hanging with you and all 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:42.600 of you guys listening. Now get ready for some tea. 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:45.760 You're not gonna want to miss this interview with the 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:48.040 one and only Ryan key. 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:48.200 Oh. 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:50.480 He has some really inspirational things to say and also 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:53.920 some messing things to say, So definitely don't go anywhere 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:55.880 because when we come back, we will be talking to 0:14:56.680 --> 0:14:59.120 Mario Kart Junior himself Ryan right after this. 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:13.800 All right, Challenge fans, we have arguably one of the 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:19.440 most fun but also one of the mauthiest Challenge cast 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:23.520 members this season on the podcast with us today. He 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:27.200 may not be the best driver, but darn it, he's 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:28.760 good at everything else. 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:30.280 Please give it up for Ryan. 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:33.080 Hey, Ryan, what's up, ladies? 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:36.680 How you doing doing well? How are you doing? Is 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:37.280 the question? 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:41.160 Oh, that was hard to watch back. It was hard 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:43.560 in the moment, but that was hard to watch back. 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:46.280 What about It was the hardest part for you to 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:47.640 watch well? 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:53.520 It truly the most depressing to be the third man 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:57.960 finishing after giving two of my balls to Laurel, who 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:01.560 was already you know, you already had stuff going on there. 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:05.760 So to put my two first balls in her canisters 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:06.920 set the. 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:10.280 Tone for like, okay, you gotta make that doing with. 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:13.480 Your bay What exactly what were you doing with your balls? 0:16:13.520 --> 0:16:15.080 What was Banana doing with your balls? 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:19.120 Like you know, I know my balls had a minded 0:16:19.160 --> 0:16:22.600 their own, So it just the way that they randomly 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:23.400 selected us. 0:16:23.800 --> 0:16:26.120 Laurel and I were right next to each other. So 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:28.960 when I sprinted on that first run. 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:31.440 I wasn't It was so hot out and we were 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:34.280 in the sun for so long before we started competing. 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:37.440 I was just running in a general direction. 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:41.200 I didn't look at the sign that said Laurel or Ryan. 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:43.880 I just saw a canister and I. 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:47.520 Put the balls in, and as they're dropping down, I 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:49.760 see Laurel's name on the top, and I'm like no. 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:54.920 Like, really, what are the odds? 0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:58.280 Like with all of the chaos that her and I 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:02.520 had that season, it was kind of poetic justice for her, 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:08.080 But it definitely it definitely lit a fire up my 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:10.560 butt to go even harder. 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:13.399 And you mentioned that, like you guys stood out in 0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:17.159 the heat for a while also before you even started running. 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:19.440 Can you tell us a little bit about the conditions, 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:21.800 like how hot it was, how long you guys had 0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:24.040 to kind of get ready before running, because obviously we 0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:27.320 see it impact all of you, and we saw how 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:28.680 it almost took out Michelle. 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:33.120 Yeah, it is the Sahara in Vietnam on the regular, 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:35.840 and you know how long it takes for the camera 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:40.120 setup and you're just even under an umbrella, like you're waiting. 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:43.400 For a good hour or two. Wow. So I honestly 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:45.600 just felt like I was running in hell. 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:52.760 It helped to pass people to like just kept lapping THEO, 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:56.800 who is like a triathlete olympian to the max. So 0:17:56.880 --> 0:18:01.600 the fact that I wasted my first by giving Laurel 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:04.359 my two balls, and then I continued to beat THEO, 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:08.520 and then when I finished finished, I beat Rachel, who 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:11.960 didn't give any of her balls to anyone else, like 0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:16.800 I felt good about my you know, my comeback, You're endurance? 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:19.200 Is that a lot of time? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:21.320 I want to touch on this because and we're definitely 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:24.080 going to get into the episode, but her name keeps 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:26.600 coming up and we have to go ahead and talk 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:30.040 about this. What is going on with. 0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:31.200 You and Laurel. 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:35.400 I'll try to keep it like short for everyone's attentions, 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:39.080 fan because the fact is Laurel and I were fast friends. 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:42.560 We had competed on Fresh Meat two together. We were 0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:45.159 in the same alliance. That was fifteen years ago. That 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:48.040 was her first challenge and that was actually my last 0:18:48.480 --> 0:18:54.600 Flagship was Laurel's first season. So we reconnected on All 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:57.119 Stars for had a lot of fun on All Stars 0:18:57.160 --> 0:19:00.560 for We're definitely in the same alliance. I was still 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:03.120 friends with Kara. I did whatever I wanted. I didn't 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:06.400 let her relationship with Kara deter me from being nice 0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:08.520 Tokara or lending, you. 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:09.400 Know, an ear to her. 0:19:10.080 --> 0:19:16.119 But things just turned sour. She and I were friends 0:19:16.240 --> 0:19:17.119 outside of the show. 0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:19.359 She stayed with me in New York. She had a 0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:20.920 set of keys to my apartment. 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:24.840 It was like that, and then anytime her and Nicole 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:27.240 would get in a little tiff, she would come running 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:31.399 back to Manhattan and stay with me. So inadvertently I 0:19:31.440 --> 0:19:33.879 became friends Cole because when they were good, they were 0:19:33.920 --> 0:19:35.679 really good, and I spent a lot of time with 0:19:35.760 --> 0:19:39.240 the two of them. But I also dipped out whenever 0:19:39.600 --> 0:19:45.200 they would get into their you know, lesbianic Titanic explosion fights. 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:48.560 I would be like, I've literally just like walked out 0:19:48.640 --> 0:19:50.400 in the middle of their fight because I'm like, this 0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:52.879 isn't for me. I'm not here to like be a 0:19:52.880 --> 0:19:57.200 bystander of your drama, Like I'm here as your individual friend. 0:19:57.720 --> 0:20:00.960 But I just kept getting roped into the drama. 0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:05.600 And one particular instance, Laurel and I were visiting a 0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:09.679 Cole in Staten Island. Nicole went to work her Apple 0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:12.960 watch was charging. Laurel was like, oh, she left her 0:20:13.000 --> 0:20:16.080 Apple Watch. I'm gonna go on her phone and I'm like, 0:20:16.680 --> 0:20:18.719