Speaker 1: What's that at the bed. It's spooky and kooky. I'm
Speaker 1: really sure it's dead. It's coming. It's way Wait a minute,
Speaker 1: I said, hiros Dress, Hey boo, it's me Ras. How
Speaker 1: you doing. I'm good. Things are opening up here. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, a gall about town. It's been
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. I'm doing things in person again.
Speaker 1: I'm doing drag again. It's a weird, weird time as
Speaker 1: we transition, but I hope everyone is well and I
Speaker 1: have a fun episode for you today. Today, I've got
Speaker 1: on my friend Danielle, who is a hilarious comedian based
Speaker 1: here in Los Angeles. She's also on season two of
Speaker 1: the TV show Special, which is on Netflix, and I
Speaker 1: really like that show and I really like Danielle. Now,
Speaker 1: Danielle does not have a ghost story per se, which
Speaker 1: you know, every once in a while, I like to
Speaker 1: have on people that I just like and that are
Speaker 1: cool and fun and down to talk about spooky stuff.
Speaker 1: So we stay on topic, well, for the most part,
Speaker 1: we talk about ghosty stuff. We listen to a listener's story. Also,
Speaker 1: Danielle has an incredible story, sort of a near death
Speaker 1: experience type story that she shares and yeah, we talk
Speaker 1: about a lot of things and so I hope you
Speaker 1: enjoy it. I have recorded some new episodes coming up.
Speaker 1: I just had on a dollmen right, just interviewed her.
Speaker 1: Hasn't been posted yet, it'll be out, I believe next week.
Speaker 1: And Karen A. Dolman is truly like the wigi board queen,
Speaker 1: and we talk all things Wigia and she's a wi geologist.
Speaker 1: She is a licensed therapist that uses wigi boards and
Speaker 1: it's it might even be a two parter because we
Speaker 1: get into a lot of different things. So that will
Speaker 1: be coming up soon. And I've been talking to our
Speaker 1: friend Katrina Wideman, host of co host of Portals to
Speaker 1: Hell on Discovery Plus, one of my favorite paranormal shows,
Speaker 1: and I believe we'll be having Katrina on soon. Also
Speaker 1: a RuPaul's Drag Race Star will be coming on soon.
Speaker 1: So We've got a lot coming at you and I
Speaker 1: hope you enjoyed this episode. Oh I should tell you
Speaker 1: as always go to patreon dot com slash rosdres Fales
Speaker 1: for a bonus clip from this week's episode. And this
Speaker 1: week I did a little bit of research and we
Speaker 1: talk about the real story that inspired the new Conjuring movie,
Speaker 1: The Conjuring three. Colin the Devil made me do it,
Speaker 1: and I give my thoughts on the movie. I did
Speaker 1: watch it and we talk about the real story. So
Speaker 1: check that out on my second tier Patreon and on
Speaker 1: my first tier. I am back on eBay looking at
Speaker 1: allegedly Haunted dolls. I was in rare form when I
Speaker 1: was recording this one because I really read these poor
Speaker 1: allegedly haunted dolls. So I had a good time. You
Speaker 1: can find that on my Patreon first tier. Anyway, here's
Speaker 1: my conversation with Danielle Perez on with the show. Hi,
Speaker 1: Danielle Perez, how are.
Speaker 2: You, Hey, Roz, I'm feeling great. How are you?
Speaker 1: I am so good. I am so happy that you
Speaker 1: were on the show. I haven't seen you in a
Speaker 1: long time. And hopefully we'll do shows together sometime soon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope.
Speaker 3: So I'm excited though that we get to we get
Speaker 3: to talk today though.
Speaker 1: I know, well we're usually in like, you know, the
Speaker 1: back of a loud room. Yeah, so there's that. But also,
Speaker 1: congrats on special season two on Netflix streaming now. Thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this show is so great and I'm so glad
Speaker 3: the world can watch now.
Speaker 1: I really enjoy that show, and I just feel like
Speaker 1: it's like a good vibe. Like when I watch it,
Speaker 1: it's just such a nice vibe. I mean, how it
Speaker 1: was when you were shooting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, definitely a nice vibe. It was.
Speaker 3: It was truly wild because we shot it in the
Speaker 3: middle of the pandemic. First time like actually being on
Speaker 3: set like in a scripted show where I was a
Speaker 3: character with lines like and so my first experience filming,
Speaker 3: I was just like covered in head to toe PPEs,
Speaker 3: segregated from all the rest of the cast, and that
Speaker 3: was like, okay, camera, sound masks off, let's go.
Speaker 1: My god, I shot something during the pandemic and it
Speaker 1: was like like when it was time to take it off,
Speaker 1: I felt so like exposed and naked.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so bizarre.
Speaker 3: And also like the first the first scene we shot
Speaker 3: was like at the prom, so it's like we're supposed
Speaker 3: to be like dancing and vibing, like touching, and you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, there's like really like having a
Speaker 3: party and it's like, haven't been to a party in months.
Speaker 3: I've been around people in it was like, oh, we're
Speaker 3: really he's taking off the band aid here.
Speaker 1: Did they do the thing? Now, people that are listening that,
Speaker 1: maybe I've never been on a set during like a
Speaker 1: dance scene, but do they do the thing where like
Speaker 1: they don't play music because of audio and then you
Speaker 1: just have to dance around or do they have music?
Speaker 3: They what they would do was they would like start
Speaker 3: music and then to get us like feeling it, feeling
Speaker 3: with the vibe of the music that's happening is and
Speaker 3: then they would cut it and then we would do
Speaker 3: the scene.
Speaker 1: See, okay, people listening to this that don't know about this.
Speaker 1: Next time you watch a TV show and there's music playing,
Speaker 1: just like focus in on the people. Because if there's
Speaker 1: people talking during the scene, they can't have music in
Speaker 1: the background because you couldn't hear them on set when
Speaker 1: they're talking. So they add that music and so everyone
Speaker 1: that's dancing around is really dancing to no music.
Speaker 2: No music.
Speaker 3: And like also we have to like talk like music
Speaker 3: is playing, so we have to like talk like we're like,
Speaker 3: you know, trying.
Speaker 2: To speak over the music. You know, it's like can
Speaker 2: you hear me?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: I said, are we gonna let's go out back? Like
Speaker 2: I'm over this song?
Speaker 1: Well again going back to you, and I like working,
Speaker 1: you know, doing stand up shows around town. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's how it. That's how most of my relationships with
Speaker 1: people are is going you what you did?
Speaker 3: What? Cool?
Speaker 2: Nice? Yeah.
Speaker 3: It's a lot of like seeing the same faces in
Speaker 3: the back of the room and being like you're here.
Speaker 2: Too, hie.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Well hopefully we'll do that all again.
Speaker 2: I can't wait. I can't wait. Have you done live
Speaker 2: shows yet?
Speaker 1: I've only done I did one like private of last
Speaker 1: week that was like for an organization, but I haven't
Speaker 1: been like I haven't done stand up yet. I haven't
Speaker 1: been in clubs yet, and I don't know what i'll do.
Speaker 1: Like you know, the pandemic makes you go, what do
Speaker 1: I want to do? Yeah, And so I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to be in noisy
Speaker 1: clubs anymore.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, figuring out what you want to do. I'm
Speaker 3: thankful for that, the time the pandemic has given me.
Speaker 3: With that, I started doing shows again and I like it,
Speaker 3: Like I love it. I almost cried like after my
Speaker 3: first set, just out of like joy because it's like
Speaker 3: I'm back on stage, but like I don't think I
Speaker 3: want to be as rabbit about it as I was before,
Speaker 3: Like I want to do shows, I don't want to
Speaker 3: have fun with them, but I want to make more
Speaker 3: space for things like acting and writing, you know, like
Speaker 3: I like being on sell, Like I like performing in
Speaker 3: in many different ways. And it doesn't just have to
Speaker 3: be standing like you do drag and stand up and
Speaker 3: that's like so cool, like you get both of those
Speaker 3: outlets to perform like with well, I.
Speaker 1: Think it's good to try, you know, It's like even
Speaker 1: all the different mediums. It's like when I started doing
Speaker 1: stand up and drag and acting whatever, it's like TikTok
Speaker 1: wasn't a thing. Like you know, things change, but it's
Speaker 1: always you know, performing or being creative or whatever. So
Speaker 1: I think it is good to try so many different
Speaker 1: things and you can still do what you're passionate about
Speaker 1: in different ways and then figure out which ones you
Speaker 1: really like and which ones are like I tried it
Speaker 1: and I don't like it or yeah whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think before the pandemic, I was very much it
Speaker 3: was like stand up or nothing.
Speaker 2: Like are you a real comic.
Speaker 1: On real comic?
Speaker 2: Are you devoting your entire are you destroying.
Speaker 3: Relationships outside of comedy all for the pursuit of stage
Speaker 3: time like content. Yeah, and it's like maybe less of that,
Speaker 3: Maybe I just have fun exploring.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just like different things that interest me and that
Speaker 2: can be fun and cool.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what interests me is talking about ghosts
Speaker 1: and paranormal That's one thing that will never get old
Speaker 1: to me. I mean, where are you at with that?
Speaker 3: I mean, like, you know, yes, heard of it, heard
Speaker 3: of the ghosts, familiar, familiar with the concept. I mean, look,
Speaker 3: it's so funny because like I love this idea of
Speaker 3: being like a bouh Like I'm I'm Afro Latina. My
Speaker 3: family's from the Dominican Republic, so like I have you know,
Speaker 3: we would pray to like saints and stuff like that,
Speaker 3: like the Virgin Mary and things and lighting candles. And
Speaker 3: I'm a very like lapsed Catholic, you know. So I
Speaker 3: like the idea of like spirits and ghosts. But I
Speaker 3: don't think I ever truly like have been haunted or
Speaker 3: felt like I've been in the presence of a ghost.
Speaker 1: Are you open to it? Would you want?
Speaker 2: I'm open?
Speaker 3: I would love to, Like I've always like when I
Speaker 3: was little, I wanted like tarot cards and I wanted
Speaker 3: a wee.
Speaker 2: Gi board, and like.
Speaker 3: My aunt and uncle were like born again Christian and
Speaker 3: so they were like, absolutely not, that's the devils. Those
Speaker 3: are the devil's tools. But my parents kind of didn't
Speaker 3: carry either way. But I definitely would love to like
Speaker 3: communicate with the other side.
Speaker 2: I was. I love a good ghost story, Like I love.
Speaker 3: The idea of something being haunted because I like that history,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, have you you grew up in La, right, yeah?
Speaker 2: And I love like, like even like the old history
Speaker 2: of La.
Speaker 3: You know, it's like so many things have like happened
Speaker 3: in like these homes and spaces, Like I like, I
Speaker 3: feel like ghosts and ghost.
Speaker 2: Stories are just an extension of like history, you know.
Speaker 1: So did you when you were growing up, I mean,
Speaker 1: did you have cultural beliefs on this stuff? Like I mean,
Speaker 1: did you have people like in your family or your
Speaker 1: community that were that like had stories or you know,
Speaker 1: gave you any reason to believe that that stuff like
Speaker 1: is real.
Speaker 3: Well, my aunt for sure believes in ghosts, like she's
Speaker 3: the born again Christian one because she would talk about
Speaker 3: like our family back in the Dominican Republic, and you
Speaker 3: know some of them. I guess we're in more kind
Speaker 3: of like Santeieva like stuff, you know, like very communicating
Speaker 3: with the other world. And she fully believes in like
Speaker 3: ghosts and spirits and like thinks that but she thinks
Speaker 3: it's like the.
Speaker 2: Devil, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she like for sure fears it. She like doesn't
Speaker 2: encourage communication.
Speaker 1: That's what I You know, a lot of Christian people
Speaker 1: that I talk to, not all just different you know,
Speaker 1: sex s CTF. Well, you know, sometimes have believes that
Speaker 1: like anything that's quote unquote paranormal is the devil. And
Speaker 1: it's like I always think about like what if your
Speaker 1: loved one like came back and they were like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm here to tell you that everything like Heaven's amazing
Speaker 1: and they're like, ah, devil, get out of here.
Speaker 3: I know they're just trying to like give you a
Speaker 3: message and be like, hey, girl.
Speaker 2: Can I wait to like see you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got clouds up here. I got a cloud
Speaker 1: with your name on it, girl, come on up right.
Speaker 3: Also, by the way, left a ticket, a winning lottery ticket.
Speaker 2: He ow, Like you gotta listen to me.
Speaker 1: You're slamming the door, saging your house.
Speaker 3: Yeah, running away.
Speaker 1: Just wait, I'm looking up Dominican Republic. Uh, like monsters
Speaker 1: and mythical creatures have you ever heard?
Speaker 3: Because there's a lot of because like, uh, you know,
Speaker 3: it's like an Afro Caribbean country because like you know,
Speaker 3: there's like the indigenous people and then like slave boats
Speaker 3: stop there, so there's you know, the Spanish and then
Speaker 3: the like all the Africans that they brought on the
Speaker 3: slave trade. So it's like a mix of like indigenous
Speaker 3: like religious beliefs and then like Catholic colonialism and then
Speaker 3: like African religious like traditions and stuff.
Speaker 2: So it's there's a lot of down there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what this article I'm I'm looking at a
Speaker 1: website that it says, yes, definitely some Brujas down there,
Speaker 1: did they? Did you ever? Did Laona ever make her
Speaker 1: way to Okay?
Speaker 2: I know about Layna because I grew up in.
Speaker 3: La so la was definitely a big part of me
Speaker 3: growing up in La.
Speaker 1: I dress for like Halloween, Like, yeah, she really had
Speaker 1: her moment when that movie came out, especially, but I
Speaker 1: know it's always been around Latin representation.
Speaker 2: We love to see it.
Speaker 1: What about Okay el Cuco? I mean it is that
Speaker 1: like cucko. That's not the it says equivalent of boogeyman.
Speaker 1: I mean I feel like like I feel like I've
Speaker 1: heard of right right, it says used to get well yeah,
Speaker 1: okay everyone, this is like used to get children to
Speaker 1: behave So I feel like it's probably something that like
Speaker 1: Latin may have been like it's all been threatening. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: exactly what is el gallio? Am I saying that? Right?
Speaker 1: G A l I p O t E L gai
Speaker 1: u a person that can transform themselves into animals at will?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I want that. That's like what is
Speaker 1: the TV animorphs or something. I feel like that's the animals.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that.
Speaker 3: Like book cover, Yes, only transforming real that animals. Whatever
Speaker 3: that spirit is, it's a really that's like a very
Speaker 3: Zeus s vibe. You remember how like Zeus would be
Speaker 3: up on Mountain Olympus and see a hot bitch down
Speaker 3: on Earth and be like, I gotta turn into a bull.
Speaker 3: I got I gotta turn into a bull and get mine.
Speaker 1: You know It's okay.
Speaker 3: He was always turning into different animals.
Speaker 1: So there's a few different coins. There's one that's naturally
Speaker 1: born with this ability and others who are given this
Speaker 1: ability through spells cast by a witch. Oh my god, Okay,
Speaker 1: we need to find the right witch because that sounds
Speaker 1: like a fun thing. Although I'm afraid that I would
Speaker 1: turn into like bile or something like. I would like
Speaker 1: only be able to turn into like the worst animal
Speaker 1: that can't do anything and get stepped down. But they
Speaker 1: pull pranks on humans. Okay, that's a fun one. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I wonder how really you know, a lot
Speaker 1: of times with like folklore and stuff, it's like how
Speaker 1: much of this is like actually real and how much
Speaker 1: of it is just like again like used to scare
Speaker 1: people or just have fun, Like so much.
Speaker 3: Of it, right, like the whole idea of like folklores
Speaker 3: and stuff or like too kind of teach children and
Speaker 3: people lessons, right like don't go into the woods it's dangerous,
Speaker 3: you know, or like you know, don't talk to straight,
Speaker 3: like stay away from this part of the lake, you know,
Speaker 3: because that's where the current's really rough, and like but
Speaker 3: they tell you there's like a witch that lives in
Speaker 3: that part of the lake or something, you know, true true, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I have those kids in line.
Speaker 1: I mean I can tell you it works like I
Speaker 1: feel like modern parents would be like, no, we need
Speaker 1: to be honest with our children, but I'm like I
Speaker 1: need to.
Speaker 2: Put a little fear back into into parenting.
Speaker 1: Totally through supernatural means.
Speaker 2: Was there ever when you were growing up? Was there
Speaker 2: ever like a house you or like a witch lives there?
Speaker 1: Let's see, was there a witch house? I mean, there's definitely.
Speaker 1: We had a neighbor when I was growing up that
Speaker 1: we would call Jason because we just assumed that he
Speaker 1: was Jason with his mask off, like we know. It
Speaker 1: was very like, okay, this was like this is so nineties,
Speaker 1: but like at the time, it was very like the
Speaker 1: neighbor from Home Improvement where you like never fully.
Speaker 2: Saw his face.
Speaker 1: You never saw his face, and like, I think.
Speaker 2: That's so sus that is so saus like.
Speaker 1: It was just like you could only see like the
Speaker 1: back of his head or like you know, and so
Speaker 1: we just kind of had this you know, folklore in
Speaker 1: our minds that like you don't go a.
Speaker 2: Narrative, You're like, they have dead bodies down there, they.
Speaker 1: Totally and it's probably I feel like, isn't that sandlot
Speaker 1: as well or something that's like turns out like the
Speaker 1: guy's like really nice, Like I'm sure he was great,
Speaker 1: but like.
Speaker 2: The pigeon lady, it's like she's.
Speaker 1: A helpful exactly. That's that is a nineties trope, scary
Speaker 1: people that turned out to be really nice.
Speaker 2: Okay, there was a scary house where I lived.
Speaker 3: I lived in like Mount Washington, and there was like
Speaker 3: this house on the way up to my house you
Speaker 3: always had to pass, so you always in order to
Speaker 3: get to my house, you had to pass this house
Speaker 3: that was like on a dilapidated lot. It just looked abandoned.
Speaker 3: It looked like just like a rundown kind of Victorian.
Speaker 3: There was a giant gate around it with like Ivy
Speaker 3: and I just we were My sister and I were
Speaker 3: convinced that a witch lived there.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm like I always.
Speaker 3: Wanted to go in it though, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: but like we never, we never. My sister is such
Speaker 3: a scaredy cat, like she's scared of everything, so I
Speaker 3: could never convince her like we have to like go
Speaker 3: into it, let's.
Speaker 1: Go break and enter.
Speaker 3: And I really I wanted to because again with the
Speaker 3: nineties tropes, nineties kids on TV were always breaking and entering.
Speaker 3: That's Okay, they were always up in someone's house that
Speaker 3: they shouldn't have been it.
Speaker 2: And did not have the keys too, right.
Speaker 1: Or just like constantly on TV shows just walking into
Speaker 1: people's windows from a ladder or whatever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just yeah, sliding open the window and just you know,
Speaker 3: taking a peek. Just like who how children to just
Speaker 3: be so reckless and take up space like that?
Speaker 1: Oh, this is how we created millennials.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 2: We just thought that we had the keys to everything.
Speaker 3: I wanted to be in that witch's house though, And
Speaker 3: I swear like I swore that, like I would see
Speaker 3: animals in her yard and then they would disappear.
Speaker 1: She would turn into animals. She's the thing that we
Speaker 1: just talked about it because.
Speaker 2: She had all kinds of animal. She had birds, cats, dogs.
Speaker 2: I swear to god I saw a pig there once.
Speaker 3: Like she had some weird animals where it's like we're
Speaker 3: not these aren't city animals.
Speaker 4: Yeah. God.
Speaker 1: I this musician Rain Phoenix on my podcast and she
Speaker 1: told me about she was living in a place that
Speaker 1: had a really spooky history and she saw this woman
Speaker 1: one day when she woke up, this woman ghost was
Speaker 1: standing there and all of a sudden, she turned into
Speaker 1: a cat and ran away. It was like it was
Speaker 1: like familiar, you know, like the witch.
Speaker 2: You ever see that cat again?
Speaker 1: I can't remember. I'd have to go back and listen
Speaker 1: to the episode. But yeah, okay, well, so tell me
Speaker 1: about some supernatural stuff. I know you were saying that
Speaker 1: you've had some dreams, some.
Speaker 2: And hat some like interesting dreams. It's weird, Okay. So
Speaker 2: I had like for my.
Speaker 3: Birthday, I'm a Taurus Sagittarius rising a Quarius moon.
Speaker 1: Are you into into astrology?
Speaker 2: For sure? I love that. But so I had like
Speaker 2: a reichi session for my birthday and my.
Speaker 3: Friend who was doing the reiki session, she was like,
Speaker 3: are you are you like a little psychic?
Speaker 2: And I was like what, I was like, I don't
Speaker 2: think I am.
Speaker 3: But like I did go to a I had gotten
Speaker 3: to a crystal shop that week, and like usually when
Speaker 3: I'm in a crystal shop, I let the crystals kind
Speaker 3: of like speak to me, like I just you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, It's I just kind of oh, what
Speaker 3: is calling.
Speaker 2: Out to me? And literally every crystal I picked.
Speaker 3: Up with something about like connecting with like your third eye,
Speaker 3: connecting to the paranormal, connecting to like your dreams, and
Speaker 3: I was so I don't know, I was a little
Speaker 3: I was like, maybe my dreams are very more vivid
Speaker 3: than they appear to be. But I when I was twenty,
Speaker 3: I was run over by like a light rail train,
Speaker 3: so it's like a subway car that goes like above
Speaker 3: ground below ground, So like I was put under for
Speaker 3: like three days, and.
Speaker 2: I couldn't tell.
Speaker 3: Like I was like having the most drugged out lucid dreams, you.
Speaker 2: Know what I mean, Like I couldn't tell what was
Speaker 2: real and what wasn't sure. I started to have like
Speaker 2: dreams of.
Speaker 3: I literally had a dream that I was pregnant, that
Speaker 3: I was like that I like was giving birth in
Speaker 3: the hospital and then they took my baby away.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: It was like in what like in what world?
Speaker 3: Like I literally was hit by a train and I
Speaker 3: lost my feet, Like I don't know how that relates
Speaker 3: to me having a baby.
Speaker 1: Well, maybe it's some kind of symbolism. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: not I don't know much about like dream interpretation or anything,
Speaker 1: but like it could be something. I'm sure there's something
Speaker 1: to it.
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's something.
Speaker 3: But I had some pretty pretty wacky, pretty lucid dreams
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 2: I had one dream. This is what.
Speaker 3: I couldn't tell if it was a dream or if
Speaker 3: it was really happening. But I was in the ICU
Speaker 3: and I just really wanted a glass of water, but
Speaker 3: like they couldn't give me water because of all the
Speaker 3: like tubes and stuff in me, Like, but I just
Speaker 3: want I was like begging the nurse for a glass
Speaker 3: of water, and like I saw her just drinking water
Speaker 3: in front of me, just like chugging it, and then
Speaker 3: like putting her glass down on a pyramid of glasses
Speaker 3: filled with water, just like right out of reach, like
Speaker 3: you know, like your finger like is like almost grazing it.
Speaker 2: But I can't quite.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. So do you think it might have
Speaker 1: been like a hallucination.
Speaker 3: It must have been, but it was so vivid. It
Speaker 3: was on some like lucid dreaming. Shit, have you lucid dreamed?
Speaker 3: Do you know what like that is?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean I feel like I have. I I
Speaker 1: had like an experience that I talked about on here
Speaker 1: a couple months back, where like I felt somebody touch
Speaker 1: me and I was like, what's going on? And I
Speaker 1: opened my eyes and they were standing right there and
Speaker 1: then I readis in the eyes and they weren't there,
Speaker 1: and then like a couple of minutes later, they touched
Speaker 1: me again. I opened my eyes and they were there,
Speaker 1: and because it you know, it was my boyfriend at
Speaker 1: the time, but it was it was like a really
Speaker 1: weird thing where it was like, how did I just
Speaker 1: dream that happening before it happened? And I felt it
Speaker 1: and I asked him and he was like, no, I didn't.
Speaker 1: I only touched you the one time. I don't know
Speaker 1: what that was.
Speaker 2: It was very I don't know what that is either.
Speaker 3: But I've definitely had like freaky moments of like did
Speaker 3: I just dream something happened right before it actually happened.
Speaker 3: Like I've had the dreams where you are panicked and
Speaker 3: like running away from someone, and like you wake up,
Speaker 3: but then you're still in the dream like running away
Speaker 3: from someone. Oh God, it's like terrifying. When I was little,
Speaker 3: so I lived in a house on a very steep hill,
Speaker 3: Like the front door entrance like you're on like a
Speaker 3: very slanted steep hill, and then once you would walk
Speaker 3: into my house, there was like a very steep staircase
Speaker 3: like immediately after you enter, so I was when I
Speaker 3: was little, I'm talking like four or five six, was
Speaker 3: constantly having the stream would have it NonStop where I
Speaker 3: was walking down the stairs and all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: like I tripped and started rolling down the stairs, and
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, I would be rolling down
Speaker 3: the hill outside of my house and just roll and
Speaker 3: roll like just like infinite Like I would wake up
Speaker 3: just like you know, it was my body banged up
Speaker 3: and like are my knee skinned?
Speaker 2: I was just like terrified. I was like stuck in
Speaker 2: the sloop?
Speaker 1: Did it like physically hurt?
Speaker 3: I didn't physically hurt, but I, like you know, would
Speaker 3: like grab my box like am I okay?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: You know, because it felt so visceral and real.
Speaker 1: God, I don't need dreams.
Speaker 3: I yeah, I thresh off dreams like. I don't dream often,
Speaker 3: but when I do dream, I feel like it's a
Speaker 3: very lucid kind of dream. Like it's such a such
Speaker 3: an impactful dream that I am emotionally experiencing the rollercoaster
Speaker 3: that is the dream.
Speaker 1: Now, have you ever had sleep paralysis?
Speaker 2: Oh? I don't think so. I've heard of that though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that comes up a lot on here
Speaker 1: because that can get into paranormal territory, and.
Speaker 2: So how does that, wait, how does sleep paralysis work
Speaker 2: with like the paranormal?
Speaker 1: Okay, well, sleep paralysis, you know, as far as I know,
Speaker 1: because my answers is alwaysn't the spookier side. But I think,
Speaker 1: like technically a lot of what it is is like
Speaker 1: you're your body wakes up. Wait, wait, like you wake up,
Speaker 1: so your brain is like in the room still, but
Speaker 1: you're still in that dream state, like you're still like
Speaker 1: you can't your body can't move, and sometimes your dreams
Speaker 1: can leak over into you being awake. And so is
Speaker 1: it paranormal is it not? I think that it can be.
Speaker 1: I think I think it can be. I think it
Speaker 1: can't be. But sometimes, most commonly people report seeing like
Speaker 1: a dark figure standing in the corner of the room,
Speaker 1: or like a witch lady sitting on top of them,
Speaker 1: and you know, like these things that are really spooky.
Speaker 1: But sometimes people report it like it happens to everyone
Speaker 1: when they stay in this room or something, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: that's when it feels really paranormal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if everyone's having that specific experience, it's very very paranormal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so apparently it happens more when you sleep on
Speaker 1: your back, so that's I sleep on my face. Because
Speaker 1: it sounds absolutely terrifying. I can't say that I've ever
Speaker 1: had it happen to me, but it seems to be
Speaker 1: very common.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds haunting.
Speaker 1: It's terrifying. But I mean when you had your experience,
Speaker 1: did you, uh like, did you experience like near death
Speaker 1: experience type like uh well, blowing something, going to heaven
Speaker 1: and coming back or like you know, sometimes people report
Speaker 1: stuff like that. I'm not really sure the details of
Speaker 1: what happened.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it wasn't like I saw like a bright light,
Speaker 3: but like when the train hit me, it felt it
Speaker 3: kind of almost like was cartoonishly like what you see
Speaker 3: and like movies and TV where all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: I'm crossing the street and I turned my head to
Speaker 3: see this train and it just like sped up so quickly,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Just like all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: it was like I see it and now like it's
Speaker 3: like I don't even remember it hitting me, Like it
Speaker 3: was just like bam, you know it happened. But when
Speaker 3: I was out, Apparently this scientologist named Cleveland, a black
Speaker 3: scientologist named Cleveland polite.
Speaker 2: Came to my side.
Speaker 3: And started doing some scientology stuff where apparently because you know,
Speaker 3: scientologists believe that you can like heel yourself right, but
Speaker 3: they don't believe in psychology or psychiatry. But he started
Speaker 3: like talking to me and getting me to repeat him.
Speaker 3: And I have no recollection of like engaging with this
Speaker 3: man like at all, and like the only reason like
Speaker 3: I even know this is true and like this happened
Speaker 3: is because like he talked to the lease, but like
Speaker 3: it really sounded like some.
Speaker 2: Crazy angel shit. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like this person rushes to you, engages with you. He
Speaker 3: basically like got me to They have this thing where
Speaker 3: if you like talk about your trauma and revisit it,
Speaker 3: and you like call out things in your trauma, they're
Speaker 3: no longer triggering. So he would be I apparently like
Speaker 3: an example, like for my situation, he would be like,
Speaker 3: look at the stop sign, what color is it red?
Speaker 2: Look at that corner? What's on that corner? A gas station?
Speaker 2: Like do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like things like to I don't know how it works,
Speaker 3: but I've been able to cross that street.
Speaker 2: I don't have any like PTSD really.
Speaker 3: Right, none, Like I've been on that train again, like
Speaker 3: straight up, like have more PTSD from my purse getting
Speaker 3: snatched like off my shoulder.
Speaker 1: You know, have you ever found him?
Speaker 3: I like googled him and like there was like a
Speaker 3: record of him living in that part of like San Francisco,
Speaker 3: but I've like never met him.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a hard name to google anytime. People
Speaker 1: have like names that are also like guess what I
Speaker 1: tell drag queens if they come up with a name
Speaker 1: that's like another like other words, Like it's hard to
Speaker 1: google because you know, Cleveland will come up first, that
Speaker 1: the most polite people in Cleveland article will come up,
Speaker 1: you know what I.
Speaker 3: Mean, Like, yeah, it's like it's specific, but also there's
Speaker 3: so many it can be so many things.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like so, I mean it was just like
Speaker 3: really kooky and that like I never had any PTSD
Speaker 3: about it, and I have no recollection of meeting this
Speaker 3: person engaging with them at all. The first thing I
Speaker 3: remember is like I thought they were like police officers
Speaker 3: or something like that, but apparently they were fire people
Speaker 3: and they like came up to me and they were
Speaker 3: like are you okay?
Speaker 2: And I was like, Hi, my name is.
Speaker 3: Danielle Perez, Nice to meet you, Like those are the
Speaker 3: first words I remember, like saying, like I'm under this train.
Speaker 3: I can't even see them, Like they're just like shadowy
Speaker 3: figures on either side of me. And I'm just like
Speaker 3: pumping with adrenaline and like they're like, you know, what's
Speaker 3: your birthday? And I'm telling them, like what's today's date?
Speaker 3: And I'm telling them they like, you know, is there
Speaker 3: like can we call your mom or your dad? I
Speaker 3: literally gave them my mom's work and sell number and
Speaker 3: house number, my dad's work sell in house number, and
Speaker 3: I told them what order to call the numbers in.
Speaker 2: It was like call my dad's office first.
Speaker 3: Then interesting, it was just it was it was really wild.
Speaker 3: I was like just I couldn't feel anything, Like I
Speaker 3: was just like numbed on morphine, like or not morphine,
Speaker 3: but the adrenaline that my body was pumping. But like
Speaker 3: I was so lucid and fully remember having this conversation
Speaker 3: with these like fire people, but have no recollection of
Speaker 3: like my very apparently full conversation with Cleveland Polite. According
Speaker 3: to the police reports, what the stuff that he told them,
Speaker 3: It was like we engage in a full dialogue.
Speaker 1: That is crazy. I guess I don't know much about scientology.
Speaker 1: I mean, I do know about that like healing yourself thing, which.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, it's like I don't really know a
Speaker 3: ton either, but I do know that they like think
Speaker 3: that you can heal yourself.
Speaker 1: But but I've only heard about that from like times
Speaker 1: where it didn't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, on some real uh negligent medical practices.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Oh my god. So but I'm I mean,
Speaker 1: that's amazing that you don't have that PTSD. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So, I mean I'm not a scientologist, but like you know,
Speaker 3: it felt very much like an like a you know,
Speaker 3: a guardian angel intervention type situation, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: if we want to like.
Speaker 2: Ascribe kind of paranormal.
Speaker 3: A paranormal kind of uh explanation for it, I feel
Speaker 3: like that that's I think the closest I've ever really
Speaker 3: experienced like a guardian angel type.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, yeah, the fact that he was there
Speaker 1: at that time and was able to help you, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: it seems like what he did was really beneficial to
Speaker 1: to you. Yeah, oh my god. I mean I'm a
Speaker 1: tempted to just tell a story about something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, please, I want. I want to get into it.
Speaker 2: I want to get into the story of it all.
Speaker 1: I have another story about somebody, a loved one of
Speaker 1: mine that got hit by a car and something paranormal happened.
Speaker 1: I mean, you would you want to hear it or
Speaker 1: is that?
Speaker 2: But yeah, I would love to.
Speaker 1: Okay, I think I told this on my Patreon. I
Speaker 1: told it not that long ago. I don't usually talk
Speaker 1: about it, but I had somebody a loved one get
Speaker 1: hit by a car and I mean, it was really
Speaker 1: really bad and they didn't make it. And I think
Speaker 1: it's maybe it's a coincidence. But my windshield was smashed
Speaker 1: in my garage right when it happened, and there was
Speaker 1: just shattered. Yes, I was in California. They were in
Speaker 1: Michigan and it was completely shattered and the place I
Speaker 1: was living. I talked to the security guard and they're like,
Speaker 1: there's nothing that could have jumped on, Like, the only
Speaker 1: thing that that could have done this is if somebody's
Speaker 1: mad at you and they would have smashed because there's nothing.
Speaker 1: Nothing could have fell like in that because it was
Speaker 1: in a covered parking structure. I don't know what that was,
Speaker 1: but it seems like a weird coincidence.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, yeah, no, that is that's that feels paranormal.
Speaker 1: That feels paranormal.
Speaker 3: Huh are you like this loved one like were they
Speaker 3: they were they related to you or some like a
Speaker 3: really deep because I don't know. That feels almost like
Speaker 3: you know, like with twins, how like one of them
Speaker 3: will know when like something's wrong with the other one,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean I definitely I think. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm a person that believes that people are in your
Speaker 1: life for a reason, and when you have these strong,
Speaker 1: deep connections, like you know, I was having a really
Speaker 1: hard time not that long ago, and someone that I
Speaker 1: have a very strong connection with that's a friend, but
Speaker 1: it feels like, oh my god, we were so meant
Speaker 1: to be in each other's lives texted me like, hey,
Speaker 1: something's telling me that I need you need someone to
Speaker 1: talk to And it was so right, you know, And
Speaker 1: I really I do think that you can have those
Speaker 1: connections with people. It's just we so often are just
Speaker 1: like you know, you just maybe you don't believe in
Speaker 1: that's ever you choose not to, but I do, and
Speaker 1: and so I think that I believe in that kind
Speaker 1: of a thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, or like.
Speaker 1: The crystals being like you need to think about your
Speaker 1: dreams and your you know, It's like, why are those
Speaker 1: the ones calling out?
Speaker 3: Crystals are calling out? They were calling out to me,
Speaker 3: and I was like, all right, let's let's activate this,
Speaker 3: uh this portal to.
Speaker 2: To the other dimension. Let's get into it.
Speaker 1: Well, thanks for sharing that, Yeah for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it is.
Speaker 3: It is kind of a really, I honestly have it.
Speaker 3: I the only other time I've like really had like
Speaker 3: a I feel like something beyond my control is like
Speaker 3: guiding me. Was like when I started stand up, which
Speaker 3: sounds like really cheesy, but like I had signed up
Speaker 3: for a stand up class because like my best friend
Speaker 3: Madison Shepherd, she her roommate was a stand up and
Speaker 3: like we had seen and perform like a few times,
Speaker 3: and I was like, he's not funny. I'm funny. I
Speaker 3: want to be stand up.
Speaker 2: I was like, Madison, how do we be stand ups?
Speaker 2: And She's like, okay, well let's take the stand up class.
Speaker 1: See that's the thing with people that do stand up
Speaker 1: and they're like not good at it and they feel
Speaker 1: like oh I failed or whatever. A lot of times
Speaker 1: those people are actually the ones that are inspiring people
Speaker 1: to become stand ups, and you're actually you're contributing in
Speaker 1: a big way. You're creating great comics that now feel
Speaker 1: the confidence to do it.
Speaker 2: It's like thank you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like you have a purpose. This is part
Speaker 3: of your path and your journey to inspire, to.
Speaker 1: Inspire, contributing to stand up. It's just not you.
Speaker 2: What a positive spine, that's what I do.
Speaker 3: But yeah, No, I signed up for this class with Madison,
Speaker 3: and like before it was like at Iowa West, it
Speaker 3: was like I before I got it out of the
Speaker 3: car to go into the class, my very first class,
Speaker 3: I was like overwhelmed by like this like kind of
Speaker 3: like euphoric feeling, just like a really giddy euphoric feeling
Speaker 3: where I feel like the only way to kind of
Speaker 3: describe it is like you know when movies when like
Speaker 3: like someone kind of has that epiphany movement where like
Speaker 3: it all comes together, you know.
Speaker 2: Like that big, like that big crescendo of like, yes,
Speaker 2: I figured it out. It's eureka, and.
Speaker 1: Yes, literally I've come out of the closet, which is
Speaker 1: about five different times. Yes, but it's.
Speaker 2: Like it just it's it's bigger than you.
Speaker 3: It's so much bigger than you, and you feel like
Speaker 3: there's kinetic energy, like but it just felt so much bigger.
Speaker 2: Than me and so cinematic.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 3: It was just really strange and overwhelming, and like I
Speaker 3: feel like I almost wanted to cry. And it was
Speaker 3: like something was just telling me, like this is a
Speaker 3: really important moment. Yes, And it's like like I'm like
Speaker 3: parking my car in Hollywood, like to go to this
Speaker 3: dinky theater. Like it was just so it was out
Speaker 3: of the blue, you know what I mean. Like it
Speaker 3: wasn't like I'm nervous or scared. It just like wasn't
Speaker 3: overwhelming feeling that was like not of this world.
Speaker 1: You know, totally. Yes, I know that feeling. I'm this
Speaker 1: is definitely going to be a scene in your movie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's always gonna play.
Speaker 2: No Peace for the Bee.
Speaker 1: That's how I feel about certain things. Okay, can I
Speaker 1: read you a story from a listener? Yes, I feel
Speaker 1: like we gotta get let's let's get like spooky. Okay.
Speaker 1: This one comes from Ali and she posted it in
Speaker 1: the Facebook group for this podcast called Ghosted by Roz
Speaker 1: dress False and Ali writes, so this is a doozy.
Speaker 1: It's kind of long. It's not too long. But this
Speaker 1: ghost or entity terrorized my entire family in the house
Speaker 1: and even followed me when we moved a whole state over.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's like cape fear vibes, like like
Speaker 1: bungee corded.
Speaker 2: Specifically.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, my parents had just gotten married. We moved
Speaker 1: in this eighty year old house with my twin brother,
Speaker 1: and it was a huge two story in Fort Sumner,
Speaker 1: New mex Looking back, we now know why that house's
Speaker 1: rent was dirt cheap. There were two rooms downstairs and
Speaker 1: a big one upstairs where the attict where the attic
Speaker 1: was connected to the walk in closet. I remember always
Speaker 1: feeling super uneasy in my bedroom, but I was always
Speaker 1: imaginative and sensitive, so I did my best to ignore it.
Speaker 1: Until one day I stayed home from school due to
Speaker 1: swine flu. Swine flu. Oh my god, that takes.
Speaker 2: Aa oh, that's like a throwback very nineties.
Speaker 1: My mom was in her room talking on the phone,
Speaker 1: and I was walking down the hallway to talk to her.
Speaker 1: Something stopped me halfway down, and I just felt something
Speaker 1: in the bathroom behind me on the other side of
Speaker 1: the hallway. I turned around and I see a grown
Speaker 1: Hispanic man standing in the doorway of the bathroom. He
Speaker 1: was wearing blue jeans, a button up and a cowboy hat.
Speaker 1: He was gesturing me to come toward him and into
Speaker 1: the bathroom. Automatically, I screamed, and my mom comes rushing
Speaker 1: in and I told her what I saw. She looks
Speaker 1: at me in disbelief and says, so, you saw him too.
Speaker 1: She sat me down and told me that he had
Speaker 1: started talking to her in my dad's voice while she
Speaker 1: was half asleep, and he tried touching her upper body
Speaker 1: area and okay, and made her shoot up. And she
Speaker 1: realized that my dad was away at work and she
Speaker 1: was talking to something else in the house, not the dad.
Speaker 1: I know she wasn't lying because she was always skeptical
Speaker 1: and never really believed in ghosts until that very moment.
Speaker 1: My brother had it bad. He still has nightmares about
Speaker 1: the house. He slept in the top story room, and
Speaker 1: every night he saw a man standing in his bedroom doorway,
Speaker 1: an attic doorway, staring at him until he got up
Speaker 1: and started leaping in my room or my parents room.
Speaker 1: Because it kept him up all night. He either saw
Speaker 1: him or heard him walking up the stairs to go
Speaker 1: into his room. But when Andrew, I'm guessing that's the brother.
Speaker 1: When Andrew moved his bed into my bedroom, he started
Speaker 1: visiting my room. Oh my god, Oh.
Speaker 2: No, okay, well this is some Andrew shit, this is Andrew.
Speaker 1: He never came in, but he was right in front
Speaker 1: of the door watching. Okay, that's why I never have
Speaker 1: doors open. I always do you sleep with the door o?
Speaker 3: That is that like a thing like to because of
Speaker 3: the ghosts specifically.
Speaker 1: Well, I just don't want to see anybody outside of
Speaker 1: my door, Like that's terrifying.
Speaker 3: I feel like, Okay, keeping doors closed for me comes
Speaker 3: from a place of like, if someone's gonna break in,
Speaker 3: at least they're gonna have to go through these doors.
Speaker 1: Get hard for them at least, Like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I'm gonna be at least a little tipped
Speaker 3: off that you are breaking an entry.
Speaker 2: Exactly, give me a little bit of a warning.
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, I'm with you. It eventually got so bad
Speaker 1: he wouldn't sleep in our rooms. He started sleeping in
Speaker 1: the living room, basically in the couch, like between the
Speaker 1: couch cushions and the couch. That's where he slept because
Speaker 1: we felt if we were simply on top of it,
Speaker 1: he couldn't get us. Okay, So I guess they were
Speaker 1: just like hiding in the couch now, because see that's
Speaker 1: when it's like ghosts can really fuck with your sleep
Speaker 1: and that's not okay, that's terrible.
Speaker 3: Dad, you didn't get the house like saged or get
Speaker 3: someone to come and ask the ghost to leave.
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people the mom is seeing
Speaker 1: the ghosts right then she needs to be calling someone
Speaker 1: to handle the ghosts. Yeah, I mean, like I had
Speaker 1: some stuff happened in my house when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: but like it only happened to me, like never happened
Speaker 1: to my parents, so they say, but like I don't
Speaker 1: know what they would have done. It's really weird to
Speaker 1: think about, you know, like I don't know. I feel
Speaker 1: like I hear so many stories and I realize, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm the person that watches the movie and it's like,
Speaker 1: get out of the house. What the hell are you doing?
Speaker 1: But it's like I think sometimes, you know, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of different factors of people either like not knowing
Speaker 1: about this stuff or having like cultural belief or just.
Speaker 3: A little denial where it's like, no, I'm gaslight yourself.
Speaker 3: You're like, that's crazy, that's silly, that's not right.
Speaker 1: As blood is ripping out of the walls, and they're
Speaker 1: just like, I'm a normal, tired or totally People love
Speaker 1: to rationalize their way, you know, out of this stuff. Okay, wait,
Speaker 1: so there's a little bit more so our dad. Okay,
Speaker 1: the dad's getting involved her. He had reoccurring nightmares seeing
Speaker 1: the same man in the same clothes. I saw where
Speaker 1: he was fucking with our radio and blue statics started
Speaker 1: coming out of the radio. I think this is all
Speaker 1: in the dream. When he broke down and finally told
Speaker 1: us about it, the radio in the kitchen suddenly turned
Speaker 1: on and played nothing but static. We knew we weren't tripping.
Speaker 1: There was something in the house. My brother started acting out,
Speaker 1: disobeying and going outside because he didn't want to be
Speaker 1: in the house. One day, one day we were all gone,
Speaker 1: he spaced out and lit a portion of the attic
Speaker 1: in his room on fire. When he came to and
Speaker 1: realized what he did, he quickly put it out and
Speaker 1: never told our parents. When I came home, he confided
Speaker 1: in me and said, I would never do that. I
Speaker 1: don't know what came over me, and we go into
Speaker 1: the attic together to see what's in there. We only
Speaker 1: got to the very front beginning and saw old beer
Speaker 1: bottles and engraved numbers all the way back to like
Speaker 1: nineteen thirty seven or something basically very old. We suddenly
Speaker 1: got really cold and never went into the attic again,
Speaker 1: and we slept in our parents' room because the footsteps
Speaker 1: started all over the house and we no longer felt safe.
Speaker 1: I felt this presence when we moved to Texas, and
Speaker 1: I literally had to get this thing done with candles
Speaker 1: and a stone flower necklace that was blessed. I had
Speaker 1: to wear the necklace every night when I slept, and
Speaker 1: one day I woke up and the necklace was off
Speaker 1: my neck and all the way across the room. I
Speaker 1: never felt anything after that, but I think about this
Speaker 1: all the time. Oh that's a scary one girl.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: But did she ever like find out any history on
Speaker 3: the house and like who this man was or what
Speaker 3: those like numbers meant?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. But see again, this is where
Speaker 1: it's like dreams can be paranormal, where it's like people
Speaker 1: are seeing this man in the house and then the
Speaker 1: dad is like seeing this exact man in a dream.
Speaker 1: Like that's something. Okay, let's do like a couple more little,
Speaker 1: quick little things. You wanna hear some ghost voices? Yes,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, okay, it's time for EVP or ev Please.
Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of an EVP?
Speaker 2: What is anty?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: I don't know what that is.
Speaker 1: Okay, It's electronic voice phenomena. It is anytime somebody records
Speaker 1: what they believe to be a ghost, so their voice talking.
Speaker 1: So it could be from like a recording device. It
Speaker 1: could be like someone is doing a video and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden they hear a whisper in the background.
Speaker 1: Like it anytime people believe they've recorded a ghost talking.
Speaker 1: It's very common to hear on like paranormal shows and stuff.
Speaker 1: And so what I do is I go to YouTube
Speaker 1: and I find people's EVPs, and I'll have you guess
Speaker 1: what you hear, and then I'll give you some options
Speaker 1: of what they believe is the right one. Okay. This
Speaker 1: first one comes from fr PI online is their name
Speaker 1: on YouTube, and it is at a place called the
Speaker 1: Tovar House in Saint Augustine, Florida, a place that's known
Speaker 1: for being very haunted. Tell me what you hear. Did
Speaker 1: you hear that voice?
Speaker 2: I heard like a like a.
Speaker 1: There's there's definitely like some like staticky background noise or whatever,
Speaker 1: but there's a voice speaking or I'll played again.
Speaker 2: Okay, wait, let me let me make sure my volumes
Speaker 2: all the way up.
Speaker 1: Okay. It's like no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2: Did it say like get out of here?
Speaker 1: I play it again? Okay, I'll give you some options.
Speaker 1: Is it A no, I don't eat butter. Maybe they're vegan.
Speaker 1: Is it B no? I don't know. Is it C?
Speaker 1: It will all get better? Okay you're a snack. All right,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play it again. Do you hear it now?
Speaker 2: Okay, definitely see it will all get better.
Speaker 1: I hear that too. But they think it's saying no,
Speaker 1: I don't know, let me play it again.
Speaker 2: That's crazy. Okay.
Speaker 1: Well here's another one. This is from I believe the
Speaker 1: same location. It's from the same group on YouTube. And
Speaker 1: what does this one say?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 1: This is more of like a creepy ass whisper. Do
Speaker 1: you hear anything?
Speaker 2: Is it are they saying like kill Moore?
Speaker 1: I totally hear like a like a k sound. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Let me put it again. Oh, I don't like that one.
Speaker 1: That one sounds like a serious It sounds malicious.
Speaker 2: That's definitely sounds like.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: That is not a friendly ghost.
Speaker 1: That's Casper, that's Casper's uncles. Okay, I'll give you some options.
Speaker 1: Is it A okay? You want to see? Is it
Speaker 1: B can you find me please? Is it C K I,
Speaker 1: S S I N G or D sachet away? Yes, Queen.
Speaker 2: Sache away, yes, queen.
Speaker 1: Alright, let's play it one more time. They think it's okay,
Speaker 1: you want to see which I hear? Apparently one of
Speaker 1: the investigators says, is anyone there? And then the ghost replies, okay,
Speaker 1: you want to see? Let me play it again.
Speaker 2: I kind of hear it, okay, I kind of. I
Speaker 2: kind of hear the sea at the very end.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh okay, that's creepy.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 2: I hear the k I hear the.
Speaker 1: KFC. What if it was KFC coast of Colonel Sanders. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's do one more quick little thing. I am gonna
Speaker 1: list off a bunch of unexplained phenomenas and just tell
Speaker 1: me what comes to mind. If you have thoughts on it,
Speaker 1: you know anything, Okay, let's start off with Bigfoot. Is
Speaker 1: it real? What do you think?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bigfoot's real? Why not?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Why not? Why not?
Speaker 3: I mean I imagine Bigfoot is like, you know, those those
Speaker 3: people who like to live off the grid, you know,
Speaker 3: in the mountains, and they get a bunch of like
Speaker 3: rifles and firearms, and they're like they're always.
Speaker 2: Getting raided by like the by like the atf you know.
Speaker 3: I feel like Bigfoot's just like an animal version of that.
Speaker 1: But they're like really good at it because they never
Speaker 1: get caught.
Speaker 3: No, they never get caught. They're living off the land.
Speaker 3: They're doing what they're doing what Leonardo DiCaprio wished he
Speaker 3: could do in that Bear movie.
Speaker 1: I mean, the idea of just like living in a
Speaker 1: treehouse in the woods. What is always something I want
Speaker 1: to do? Until this pandemic happened and I was like.
Speaker 2: No, absolutely not. You're like isolation not for me.
Speaker 1: Not for me. Okay, what about psychics?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, psychics for sure are definitely real. Psychics, mediums
Speaker 3: anyone who can.
Speaker 2: Speak to you know, the other world, the other.
Speaker 3: Dimension, paranormal activity, you fully, fully believe it.
Speaker 1: Fully have you been to psychics?
Speaker 2: I have been to I've been to like a few mediums.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and was it accurate?
Speaker 2: Yeah, one of them was like very very accurate.
Speaker 3: Actually, the one that I go to the most regularly,
Speaker 3: very accurate.
Speaker 1: Oh so you have like a medium, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I have a medium.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: She's amazing. She has like an instagram. Uh, what's her instagram?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Her instagram is the Art of Rooted Living.
Speaker 1: Okay, good to know and so Welsh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's great.
Speaker 1: I love her. She speaks to people that you want
Speaker 1: her to speak to or what does she do.
Speaker 3: She speaks to like like she reads like energy and
Speaker 3: feeling and just is like she kind of gets the
Speaker 3: way like things come to her or through like kind
Speaker 3: of sound and like feel.
Speaker 2: Does that make sense?
Speaker 3: Like she just kind of like her senses I guess
Speaker 3: are like overloaded with like what comes to her, you know.
Speaker 2: But she's like been able to like see.
Speaker 4: Some things that we're just so specific where it's like
Speaker 4: there's you know, how how would you be able to
Speaker 4: to be so correct about this very specific thing?
Speaker 1: Oh my god?
Speaker 2: Yeah, But she's great. I love her.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Fully, I'm fully very into psychics. I love it. I
Speaker 2: feel like it's a gift. It's a gift. It's a
Speaker 2: real thing. Like again, that's what I'm saying. It's like
Speaker 2: I believe in the paranormal, like for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean psychics to me, like when they're good,
Speaker 1: they're good. But it's not is the kids. Okay, let's
Speaker 1: do some more a couple more unexplained phenomenas. What about
Speaker 1: haunted dolls. Can a doll be haunted?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Haunted dolls? Have you heard of that? Uh isla, uh isla?
Speaker 2: That muniekas in.
Speaker 1: Mexico City, just like the Island of Dolls.
Speaker 2: Yeah, island.
Speaker 3: It's literally an island just filled with dolls inhabited by
Speaker 3: like a bunch of It's the creepiest fucking thing in
Speaker 3: the world.
Speaker 1: That's terrifying.
Speaker 3: It is fully just an island where like, you know,
Speaker 3: people leave dolls.
Speaker 1: Oh I have heard of this?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that seems that seems haunted as fuck. Okay, And
Speaker 3: I think anything can be possessed like I think dolls.
Speaker 3: You know, I think dolls are a good vessel for
Speaker 3: possession because they have all of the parts that humans have,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, It's like they're easy to
Speaker 3: anthra morrifies.
Speaker 1: Okay, right, is that the right word?
Speaker 3: Where you like give like an inadamate object like human
Speaker 3: like abilities and characteristics?
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you think they could kill somebody like Chucky?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Why not?
Speaker 3: I mean it's like voodoo dolls, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like I believe in that should too.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, okay, unexplained phenomena. Will I ever work in
Speaker 1: this town again?
Speaker 3: Oh honey, you definitely will work in this town. I mean, honestly,
Speaker 3: me working in this town is a pretty unexplained phenomenon.
Speaker 1: Honestly. Same. Okay, what about uh UFOs?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, UFOs for sure? And I wasn't like I.
Speaker 3: Wasn't honestly, I wasn't like a believer in UFOs until
Speaker 3: I saw have you seen the new Unsolved Mysteries?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, the one with the town and all
Speaker 1: the people?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so good?
Speaker 3: And okay, so I became like in this panorama. I
Speaker 3: became obsessed with this YouTube. Excuse me, I became obsessed
Speaker 3: with this behavioral panel.
Speaker 2: They're these like essentially human lie detectors, like.
Speaker 1: These people on YouTube. They're like, oh, see the way
Speaker 1: they just scratch their nose. That means they're lying or whatever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you can like see like their heart rate,
Speaker 3: like if you see someone's knees, like you can tell
Speaker 3: their heart rate, so they like can tell like when
Speaker 3: your heart rate goes up or down, like when you're talking.
Speaker 3: It's totally wild. But they break down the UFO episode
Speaker 3: of that Unsolved mystery and they are like, I have
Speaker 3: never believed a person more. They are fully like this
Speaker 3: person is recounting. They're not saying what I think, They're
Speaker 3: like what I saw.
Speaker 1: You know. What I always say about stuff like that
Speaker 1: is like, Okay, let's say those all these people in
Speaker 1: this small town that are not Hollywood actors. They would
Speaker 1: have to be incredible actors. First of all, they'd have
Speaker 1: to be undiscovered talent that was just so good there's
Speaker 1: just no way.
Speaker 3: And then like they would have to get the whole
Speaker 3: town involved, like do you can you imagine that dress rehearsal,
Speaker 3: Oh my god, imagine that read through table read the
Speaker 3: table read for.
Speaker 2: That, just getting these.
Speaker 3: These Meryl streams, just getting them into character.
Speaker 1: But they're all amazing, Like that's hard, it's just hard
Speaker 1: to believe.
Speaker 2: It a long con too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they would have to agree your twenties, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they'd have to all agree that we're never gonna
Speaker 1: take other jobs. We have this incredible all these abilities
Speaker 1: were so believable as actors, but will never take other jobs,
Speaker 1: will never work ever, will never work in this town again.
Speaker 1: Well they'll work in that town because they'll keep doing
Speaker 1: their UFO stuff. But like it's I have a hard time.
Speaker 2: Like this is our one gig.
Speaker 1: Honestly, it's like because I know that that story, Like,
Speaker 1: I mean, they've talked about it, you know, throughout the years,
Speaker 1: and I think there's definitely way more interest in that
Speaker 1: place now and so people, you know, I'm sure those
Speaker 1: people are doing a lot more interviews and stuff. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's almost like when you're on a sitcom
Speaker 1: like twenty years ago and it still airs like it's
Speaker 1: a great gig if you're an actor, great gig.
Speaker 2: But also you don't get paid for it. No, it's
Speaker 2: a like journalism.
Speaker 3: You're not legally allowed to pay for interviews if it's
Speaker 3: considered like.
Speaker 2: News and actual journalism.
Speaker 3: So like they're not getting paid, they're just getting exposure.
Speaker 2: But like they don't want any other gig.
Speaker 1: That's the that's the thing. Oh, Danielle, thank you so
Speaker 1: much for coming.
Speaker 2: On you Roz. This was such a blast.
Speaker 1: It was fun. Tell everybody you know where to find
Speaker 1: you and everything going on.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you can watch me right now on season
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Speaker 3: and you can listen to me on my podcast Wow
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