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Speaker 1: If Lebron wins two more rings with the Lakers, I

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Speaker 2: Jordan Dunkie was never getting taken out a big defensive

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Speaker 3: The wake up call, welcome to the NBA moment for

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Speaker 4: Let's get right into our fan questions right off the top.

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Speaker 4: I like this from Tyler because.

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Speaker 2: Reshs be getting Yeah, they be getting the business on

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Speaker 2: social postgame from players, coaches be killing them during the games.

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Speaker 2: But Tyler thirty four asks, do you guys think it

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Speaker 2: was easy to ref back in the nineties and two

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Speaker 2: thousands or today?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Man, My first instinct to say, is way easier today.

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Speaker 3: But the game I feel like it is different Today

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Speaker 3: is faster, but you'd have thicker skin back then.

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Speaker 2: To me, or you're talking about just getting yelled at, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean getting the calls right.

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Speaker 3: Though more physicality. Then it's a little slower. It's like,

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Speaker 3: it's my instinct is saying, the game is faster, it's

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Speaker 3: harder for them to keep up. But back then, it's

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Speaker 3: definitely more physical. Guys. Referees weren't allowed to kick people out,

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Speaker 3: would be sensitive called technicals right away, Like you had

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Speaker 3: to have thicker skin, you know what I'm saying. So

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Speaker 3: I feel like there's advantages and disadvantage in each era.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I would say probably the only reason why

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Speaker 3: But outside of that, I think it's every other aspect

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Speaker 3: of the game was harder back then.

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Speaker 1: It's clear harder today rise of replay, right, I mean

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Speaker 1: when you got to go to replay, you didn't you

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Speaker 1: didn't know what was going on, right, Like a clothes

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Speaker 1: line in the nineties and.

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Speaker 5: Two thousand was a hard foul, right, Like a.

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Speaker 1: Hit on the head, Like when you go for a block,

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Speaker 1: you hit them on the head. You got to replay

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Speaker 4: It seems like there's more rules, is what you're saying.

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Speaker 3: There's more rules, but I think they have more opportunity

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Speaker 3: to get it right now, Like the replay helps you.

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Speaker 1: You got replay, that's makes it easier to get it

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Speaker 1: bumping when somebody come in the lane, Now that's an

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Speaker 5: Like before, you have to determine if that.

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Speaker 1: I said, the replay makes it easier.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but players manipulating the game. I think that's what

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Speaker 4: That's what so to me, that's the difference.

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Speaker 3: That's the hardest part.

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Speaker 2: It's the crazy amount of rules that they have now

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Speaker 4: Like the gather step and the this and that, and.

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Speaker 2: The players are just gaming the system constantly, like they're

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Speaker 2: the league empowers you to make your own decisions.

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Speaker 4: Ain't no replay, ain't no going back. We ain't holding

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Speaker 4: where we second guess you. It's just like you go,

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Speaker 2: Then motherfucker's looking over my shoulder. All these replay challenges

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Speaker 4: These dudes that are doing shit. You don't even know

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Speaker 3: I'm wondering when it changed from when, Like you know,

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Speaker 3: at what point did it change and can they reverse it?

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Speaker 4: But you would like to see them actually change the rules.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, that's not like some of these things I see.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I told you the up and under thing with

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Speaker 3: Sometimes you just can't skip hop.

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Speaker 5: I used to be able to.

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Speaker 1: Jump stop, you know what I'm saying. But now I

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Speaker 2: Like yeah, to me, they just need to put rules

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Speaker 2: that a lot of defenses to play more defense in the.

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Speaker 4: Sort of contact some of the ship. It's just like Bro,

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Speaker 3: The biggest thing for me is the changes that.

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Speaker 2: Literally it'd be like such and such had the ball

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Speaker 2: that's one thing I think they should change definitely. And

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Speaker 2: then I think they should give people I get it

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Speaker 4: Guys are way too good at shooting threes now.

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Speaker 3: And also allowed to manipulate the game to where they land.

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Speaker 3: They're jumping fut it's on you.

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Speaker 4: If you have to do that, fix your.

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Speaker 3: Phone, you're crazy. But yeah, I'm with you at I mean,

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Speaker 3: I like the fact that they're giving guys opportunity. There's

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Speaker 3: certain rules have changed up for the better, like the

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Speaker 4: I just need to see the balance to the defense

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Speaker 3: I'm with you not the biggest thing is just taken

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Speaker 3: away with Falbaton what you eliminate that I can deal.

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Speaker 4: With guys the freaking stop rewarding them.

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Speaker 3: You gotta just let them just fall on the floor. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I like this question from Yikes eight oh five asked, honestly,

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Speaker 2: why do you think Lebron is still playing rings? Validation money?

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Speaker 2: His legacy is already already cemented. What's more probable Lakers

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Speaker 2: how long will Brownie be a Lake at Well, we

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Speaker 2: know the answer to that in his contract for was

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Speaker 3: You're gonna go with Let's answer the first question first.

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Speaker 4: He'll be in the G League. They are, Yeah, they

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Speaker 4: played with Lebron. Why do you think he's still playing?

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Speaker 3: I think because he can, his body's allow him to,

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Speaker 3: think he's done. He's pretty much broken on everything, field,

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Speaker 3: goals made, minutes, he's got. We're done with four more games.

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Speaker 3: He passes Robert Parrish for games play. He's breaking damn

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Speaker 3: he's able to play with his son, you know what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying. He does want to win a championship.

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Speaker 4: Does he really play with his son though.

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Speaker 3: His son's on the team. He's a traveler, but he

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Speaker 3: does want to win another championship. But I think because

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Speaker 3: he wants to be considered the greatest of all times.

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Speaker 4: What do you think he's playing for.

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Speaker 1: I think he loves it. Got Takespeare of his body

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Speaker 1: like nobody, nobody else. I mean, he's been a blueprint

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Speaker 1: for a lot of the this generation on how to

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Speaker 1: it's that's that's love. Because I started doing a lot

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Speaker 1: of things. He did talk the end. Yes, I didn't

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Speaker 1: Diavy bag chamber or certain things. Stuff started coming in,

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Speaker 1: and he gets the six rings, if we consider Lebron

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Speaker 2: And I mean I think even Lebron, he's probably one

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Speaker 3: I think I think he gets won if he gets

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Speaker 4: Getting it done, I'll put who could getting it done?

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Speaker 3: Bro again? Le Bron doing it mind you again, we're

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Speaker 2: I guess people would. We're just crowned anyway we're saying.

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Speaker 5: What, I'm gonna tell you what le Bron is not.

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Speaker 1: Being the goat unattainable now because like when you look

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Speaker 1: It's just hard to wouln't be won six championships. You're

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Speaker 2: And Yeah, I think what Paul said resonates with me.

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Speaker 2: Why is he still playing? Is obviously still loves hooping,

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Speaker 4: Name because you're doing well the Lakers, you know what

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Speaker 2: Like, I can understand why you wouldn't retire. I remember

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Speaker 3: I wasn't either until later on. I appreciate him way

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Speaker 4: I feel the same way about Lebron your childhood.

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Speaker 5: Exactly that way.

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Speaker 1: Like you just won three in a row, just killed

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and everybody anything that anybody knew about the disease,

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Speaker 3: It's like like you're going as a death sentence basically. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So obviously this is a difficult decision for Lebron and

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Speaker 3: That's a good question.

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: So it wasn't just because I feel like that's a

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Speaker 4: Got you, well, you might as well just.

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Speaker 5: Getting that ten minutes or whatever.

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Speaker 1: When coach would be at the end of the yeah, coach,

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Speaker 1: I looked at when.

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Speaker 3: The crazy thing is though, Pop, this is what pop.

445
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Speaker 3: So I didn't do that at first, but like I

446
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Speaker 3: didn't think I was gonna play it all when I

447
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Speaker 3: first got there. But Pop is notorious for throwing a

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Speaker 3: new guy in the fire right away and catching you

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Speaker 3: off guard. So he'll be like my first week there,

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Speaker 3: I'm like on a ten day or something like Danny

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Speaker 3: and I'm like Danny and I'm like, is he talking

452
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Speaker 3: like you? I'm like, oh, ship, all right. Like so

453
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Speaker 3: once he do that, now you're like you're on edge.

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Speaker 3: But he's just trying to see if you're ready. But

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Speaker 3: after you get that first after you get that first one,

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Speaker 3: you gotta be making sure.

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Speaker 4: Looking at the base, make sure your the.

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Speaker 5: Bitch like this, you cough, whatever. When coach turned, you

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Speaker 5: might lean forward make sure.

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Speaker 3: He was on the end of the I'm still here,

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Speaker 3: but I would make sure that I'm listening though I'm

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Speaker 3: in class today. Notorious for cutting off the bench from

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Speaker 3: what the players on the court did, that's funny. So

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Speaker 3: a lot of times we would be like trying to

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Speaker 3: be ducked. You know, I'm saying, like I feel like

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Speaker 3: a lot of coaches look, look at the Ship. It

467
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Speaker 3: started with you becaus off Matt Bonam on time. I

468
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Speaker 3: was like, what the fuck did I do?

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Speaker 4: Was like, man, that's so good, a little funny as hell, hilarious.

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Speaker 4: All right, man, let's get into some Friday night really quickly.

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Speaker 2: The red hot Atlanta Hawks at the Houston Rockets.

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Speaker 4: Man, Hawks have been playing.

473
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Speaker 5: The hell out of it.

474
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Speaker 4: They seem to be peaking at the right time.

475
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Speaker 2: Jalen Johnson is having an incredible, incredible it feels like

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Speaker 2: he's getting better as the season.

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Speaker 3: The walker brout of did y'all not bring him back?

478
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Speaker 2: And that's the position, man, somebody they had to choose

479
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Speaker 2: between him and nas Man.

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Speaker 4: That's what it feels like. It came.

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Speaker 3: I thought they thought they could groom the younger guys

482
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Speaker 3: like Terren Shannon Junior. Yeah, they probably in him, We

483
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Speaker 3: could use them to replace him, and it's like, nah,

484
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Speaker 3: this motherfuckers like you needed him, so wow, bro, what

485
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Speaker 3: Minnesota would be really good with him right now?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they they.

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Speaker 2: Miss him for sure, both offense and defense because you know,

488
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Speaker 2: he was one of the guys because the defense has

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Speaker 2: been so up and down, inconsistent, and lately they've just

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Speaker 2: been straight up bad and Alexander Walker is one of

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Speaker 2: those guys you talk about picking up the court and

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Speaker 2: doing stuff like that.

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Speaker 4: He's been one of those guys for them. So shouts

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Speaker 4: to the Hawks for.

495
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Speaker 2: Scooping him up and him making the most of his opportunity.

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Speaker 2: I want to ask you, Danny first, who you think

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Speaker 2: is gonna win the game?

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Speaker 5: And why.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna Atlanta. Houston's just I watched the game the

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Speaker 3: other night. Man, the fourth quarter, it looks so ugly.

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Speaker 3: I don't I don't think they'll play that bad. Same

502
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Speaker 3: Gloom was out. He helps with some point guard situation

503
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Speaker 3: because he's a point center. But you throw a trap

504
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Speaker 3: at the Rockets, man, it's Curtis. It's Curtis. I thought offensive, backcore,

505
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Speaker 3: you know, turnovers, But it's not him, you know Reed

506
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Speaker 3: Shepherd or Finney Smith or Jabbari. He just got He

507
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Speaker 3: didn't play a lot of games. He just he only

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Speaker 3: played like a month, two months, maybe that month and

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Speaker 3: a half. Yet they haven't given him a lot of

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Speaker 3: time either. But yeah, man, they just don't look poised

511
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Speaker 3: or mature this game. I think they're playing better Houston.

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Speaker 3: I feel like Houston will get back on track and

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Speaker 3: win a couple of games here and there, but they're

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Speaker 3: not trending in the direction I thought they would at

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Speaker 3: this point in the season if they kept the Steven

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Speaker 3: Adams or Frevan Fleet to come back, like they need

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Speaker 3: those guys right now.

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Speaker 2: I was a friend of mind ask me about this, like,

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Speaker 2: this can't just be like we don't have Fred van Vliet,

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Speaker 2: so we can't play offense in the fourth quarter of games.

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Speaker 4: Is it really that simple or is this something more happening?

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Speaker 4: What miss and they didn't have they didn't have?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, of course the way he passes and scores in

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Speaker 1: the low post, so I'll give him that. I think

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Speaker 1: they'll be fine when the game slows down in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: But like when you have to like I said this

527
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Speaker 1: the other night, you have to rely on your thirty

528
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Speaker 1: seven year old to be the main in your offense

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Speaker 1: like KD was brought there to. Yeah, yeah, becos he's

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Speaker 1: a guy that down the stretch can get you a bucket.

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Speaker 1: But you have to rely on him at this stage

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Speaker 1: of his career to say, hey, we need you to

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Speaker 1: get thirty every.

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Speaker 3: Night and play point guard like he's playing point guard.

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Speaker 3: He's getting thirty playing thirty seven minutes for him.

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Speaker 1: Expect Okay, yeah, give it to us in the playoffs

537
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Speaker 1: to where all right, we gotta win sixteen games. I

538
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Speaker 1: can give you a cool two months to do this

539
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Speaker 1: all season long and then asked to do this in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Even more, he's number three in the league in minutes

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Speaker 3: per game, third in the league of minutes minutes per game.

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Speaker 4: Is it a blowout? You think it's a close game.

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Speaker 5: For the first time.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a comfortable, comfortable.

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Speaker 4: One for the comfortable victory for the Hawks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so like twelve or twelve, and I could see

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Speaker 3: twelve to fourteen for.

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Speaker 1: The first time in years. The Hawks have an identity.

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Speaker 1: They're a defensive team. I'm talking about when I watch them,

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Speaker 1: they can switch one through five and they all defend.

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Speaker 1: They have a plethora of six eight, six nine forwards

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Speaker 1: who can handle and shooting.

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Speaker 4: Young might have helped him with the identity.

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Speaker 1: Oh my, I gave them a defensive identity, like they're

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Speaker 1: one of the best, Like they're one of the right

557
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Speaker 1: now and this man, they're one of the top defenses

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Speaker 1: in the league.

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Speaker 4: I'm not a hater. I'm just pointing out factual stuff.

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Speaker 2: If you see what's happening when you got Dyson Daniels

561
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Speaker 2: and to kill Alexander Walker is your back court defenders?

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Speaker 4: That's that's scary more. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when the last time the Hawks have been five

564
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Speaker 1: to six games over five hundred.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been it's been a minute. So I don't

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Speaker 4: think they'll blow Houston out.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I think the Hawks continue to help Houston backslide,

568
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Speaker 2: and I think they're gonna have to look in the

569
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Speaker 2: mirror do some major changes this offseason in order to

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Speaker 2: to the roster in the way that makes them closer

571
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Speaker 2: to their championship goals. What do you guys think about

572
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Speaker 2: Jalen Johnson's over under point told you think he's going over.

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Speaker 3: I think he's going over.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, k D.

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Speaker 5: Sure they have a couple of forwards.

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Speaker 3: He's he's gonna put sick and roll. And we've seen

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Speaker 3: how people talk about him defensively this year.

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Speaker 1: Like when I became a guy as a player, that

579
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Speaker 1: was like, all right, Piers is now a threat to

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Speaker 1: make guys better.

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Speaker 5: I became unstoppable.

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Speaker 1: Fact, that's what I'm seeing from Jalen Johnson because like

583
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Speaker 1: you look at a guy like him who could score

584
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Speaker 1: the ball, he could get you.

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Speaker 5: He could get you to talk twenty eight the game

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Speaker 5: if he wanted to.

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Speaker 1: The way his game is, but his willingness to pass

588
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Speaker 1: freeze up your game because now teams are hesitant to

589
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Speaker 1: do w Now you're making the right play. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's like, then how do we defend him now? And

591
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Speaker 1: it's like some nights I would go from one night

592
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Speaker 1: have thirty five to the next time night have fourteen

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Speaker 1: and ten. It was just like because they expected me

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Speaker 1: to score today, But okay, now i'm'na pick y'all apart,

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Speaker 1: and I was just as effective.

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Speaker 5: So here this guy he's he's doing. I love what

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Speaker 5: I'm seeing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I love the point total. What about kd over

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Speaker 4: under the point total?

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Speaker 3: He's gotta go over just for them to be competitive,

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Speaker 3: So I'm gonna go over.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm going on.

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Speaker 3: Actually, with how Atlanta has been playing.

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Speaker 4: They might they might keep to take the ball out.

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Speaker 5: Of his hand.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm more under Katie has sixteen in the first.

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Speaker 5: Half, gonna play.

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Speaker 4: They might force Jabari.

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Speaker 3: They've seen that Lakers game and take any type of

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Speaker 3: page out of that book. He scored two points in

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Speaker 3: the second half. They just kept trapping.

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Speaker 2: I gotta say, man, email bro, like, your offense needs

613
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Speaker 2: to be a little bit more creative than it's been.

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Speaker 4: We get it, you're a defensive first guy.

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Speaker 2: But good golly, bro, y'all gotta that that offense looks

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Speaker 2: elementary right now.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Katie under first points against Atlanta.

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Speaker 4: Give me it's Katie over. I'm going over Shane Goon

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Speaker 4: over or under his first quarter point total or his

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Speaker 4: rebounds game the total first quarter points.

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Speaker 3: For our I'm gonna go under first first quarter points

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Speaker 3: on total. I feel like he meets it right at

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Speaker 3: the He'll go over for the game rebounds total.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go for points in the first quarter. I'll

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Speaker 1: go under Singoons likes to get off to a slow start.

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Speaker 1: He's his way into the game. And for rebounds for

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Speaker 1: the game, he's pretty good rebounders, so I'll give him

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Speaker 1: the over for his rebounds. Nobody talking about Cominga's turn

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Speaker 1: this franchise around. That's what we're not talking about.

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Speaker 5: Since Comina has gotten there, they've been on the road,

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Speaker 5: cominga crazy, talking about Jaya, this Cominga.

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Speaker 3: They like. Now they won nine games and it's still currently.

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Speaker 5: That's five hundred.

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Speaker 4: Look, that's crazy, how far back they were at some point.

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Speaker 5: They never gonna beat the mid allegations.

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662
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Speaker 2: we finally got some expansion news. This stuff's been kind

663
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 2: of in the air as happening, and with these two

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Speaker 2: cities specifically being the front runners for years now, and

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Speaker 2: we got some news from the League office.

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Speaker 4: According to league sources, the next at next week's Board

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Speaker 4: of Governor's meeting, it will include a vote to explore

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Speaker 4: adding two NBA teams, one in Seattle one in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: Been beginning in twenty twenty eight. That's also four years

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Speaker 2: from now. Of course, expansion is an economic question for

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Speaker 2: the league's existing thirty owners, as they would go from

672
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 2: one to thirtieth of the share of the league's.

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00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 4: Revenue to one. Thirty two went out of thirty two,

674
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 4: and the NBA teams currently own three point three three

675
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Speaker 4: percent of the league. If the league jumps to thirty

676
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 4: two teams, that percentage drops to three point one to three.

677
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Speaker 4: While that might seem like an insignificant change.

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00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 3: It's a lot of money.

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Speaker 2: Those fractions of a percentage will really add up over time.

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Speaker 2: Considering that we're talking about percentages of a seventy six

681
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 2: billion dollar TV rights package.

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Speaker 3: Damn point two percent is like, so.

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Speaker 5: What that means salaries will go down?

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Speaker 4: No? No, no, just the just the owner's owner salary.

685
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 4: Owners reved, we don't know what.

686
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 2: By the way, they don't have to publish how much

687
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 2: they've made of every year.

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00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 4: Isn't that quite convenient anyway?

689
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Speaker 2: For approval, the decision will need twenty three yes votes

690
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 2: out of the thirty existing owners. Seattle in Vegas both

691
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 2: land in the West, meaning one franchise would have to

692
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 2: shift from west to east to rebalance the seventeen to

693
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Speaker 2: fifteen split Memphis bro The decision would likely be between

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Speaker 2: three teams, Minnesota, New Orleans, and Memphis. Geographically, New Orleans

695
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 2: and Memphis are the easternmost teams in the Western Conference.

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Speaker 4: Thoughts Memphis for sure, Just thoughts on the expansion.

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Speaker 3: I don't it's been about time. I think we have

698
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 3: a lot of talented guys out there that deserve a spot.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's extra thirty maybe sick. I guess forty

700
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 3: spots and it was fifteen seventeen per team now, So yeah,

701
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 3: there's a bunch of guys, not just the G League

702
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 3: but overseas, And you know, I think it's about time

703
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 3: Team Seattle needs a team. They had a great I

704
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 3: didn get a chance to experience it Vegas in Summer League.

705
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 3: They've just been buzzes every summer. But they could definitely

706
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 3: use a team. But yeah, geographically makes more sense. When

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Speaker 3: I was in Memphis, I'm like, why the hell we

708
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 3: even in the West, Like I didn't realize where it

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00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 3: was at. Why the hell we in the West coast.

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Speaker 2: Well, if I'm Minnesota, Paul, I'm like, I'm not that

711
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Speaker 2: far from.

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Speaker 4: Milwaukee and Chicago. You know, throw me in the Eastern Conference.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, you're dying to get into the easier conference.

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Speaker 4: I would be lobbying hard.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, easier. I mean it always shifts though.

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Speaker 4: If I'm the East, I'm like, yeah, bring brings not Memphis,

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Speaker 4: Bring New Orleans over here. Worst ownership in the league.

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Speaker 3: Look where memphisis, Minnesota, Look how crazy that is? Even

719
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 3: New Orleans. But look at memphisis again, I'm not that

720
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Speaker 3: far far.

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Speaker 4: Milwaukee.

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Speaker 3: I'm like being.

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Speaker 4: In the Western Mphis is just straight up.

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Speaker 2: It came from Vancouver, which is a West coast. Yeah,

725
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 2: but they couldn't change conferences at the time.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, it's tough.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Memphis makes the most sense.

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Speaker 4: Easily to vote sense one.

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Speaker 3: Team though, because two added just because you had both

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Speaker 3: teams to them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, right now we have fifteen teams.

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Speaker 5: And what does that mean for the draft? You had

733
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Speaker 5: two more picks to the first round.

734
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Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, so now it's thirty two first round picks. Again,

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Speaker 4: this isn't a slam dunk deal. I don't know if

736
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,919
Speaker 4: people notice, but James Dolan is on a personal war

737
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 4: path against the NBA. He votes against every single every

738
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 4: league proposal everything. He's like deeferent with them about a

739
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 4: bunch of different ship.

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Speaker 2: But he's got alleged, allegedly this is from reports that

741
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 2: he's got a little crew of owners that he's yeah,

742
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 2: that he's our HB is part of it where they're like, yo,

743
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 2: we're not giving up, you know, our basketball related revenue

744
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 2: now both.

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00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 4: So they have a group in Vegas.

746
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 2: I was just on Bill Simmons Show today he was

747
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 2: talking about the Vegas groups are headed by like it's

748
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 2: like celebrity athlete and some kind of financial backing group

749
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 2: that they're the face of. I think Lebron has one

750
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 2: steph multiple people, and in Seattle they're not really sure.

751
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 2: But Seattle is going to be the biggest no brainer

752
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 2: because they got so much of the infrastructure, the fan

753
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 2: base is locked in.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's gonna be hard.

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00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 2: But each team has to pay an expansion fee try

756
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 2: to offset, Yeah, to try to offset the money that

757
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 2: you're losing on.

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Speaker 4: A year year basis.

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00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so something like that. Yeah, they're gonna

760
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 2: pay a lot out of money to buy into the NBA.

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00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,240
Speaker 4: I just think there's more than.

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00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 2: Enough talent to disperse it, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: And I think it's great to have thirty more NBA

764
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 2: jobs every single year for guys to get money and

765
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Speaker 2: make great lives for themselves.

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Speaker 1: So you put them, Okay, I know that you you

767
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: have to.

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Speaker 5: You have to put your players in the pools.

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Speaker 4: You mean for the expansion draft draft? How many how

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00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 4: many players do you get to exempt?

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Speaker 5: Eight? Right? It's eight?

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00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 4: Okay, so you get to keep?

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Speaker 1: Yes, So what does that mean for drafting that year,

774
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: also for the expansion team.

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Speaker 2: Back in the days, they used to be like you

776
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 2: can't have a top pick for like three or four

777
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 2: years or something. They banned people from getting the number

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Speaker 2: one pick in the lottery.

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Speaker 4: But I don't know if that will be grandfathered over.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, teams getting to keep eight guys like okay see,

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00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 2: although two years from now a lot of those guys

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00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 2: I feel like it will be gone. But okay sees

783
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 2: and some of the deeper teams in the NBA scooping

784
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 2: eight players like this, nice players to pick off.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're ninth and tenth man, So like today,

786
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 1: who would we be looking at? Type of players that's

787
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: like eighth or ninth man in the NBA, Like, who

788
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: are some notables?

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Speaker 2: I think on the Okac it would definitely be like

790
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 2: the Wiggins.

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00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 4: The Topic kid who they just drafted. It would be

792
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 4: those kind of Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So like this is what I'm saying, you should be

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Speaker 1: still I think the s matching team should get the

795
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Speaker 1: first two picks.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna get a franchise guy.

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00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 3: In that pool players.

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Speaker 4: No, you're not even getting the starter, you just getting franchise.

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Speaker 5: Getting the starter, right, you know what I'm saying, you

800
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 5: gotta have something.

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Speaker 2: But depending on what OKC does, Like if it was today,

802
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 2: you might could get a case of Wallace, or you know, Jared.

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00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 3: Mcke should get the top two picks for the first

804
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 3: two years.

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00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 5: Or should get the top two picks.

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00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, anybody need more than that.

807
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Speaker 1: It's gonna look nasty, it's gonna be you need something,

808
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: some hope. He haves to have some hope.

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00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:21,240
Speaker 2: But teams might do strategic stuff to like let guys

810
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Speaker 2: not be exempt.

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Speaker 4: That's to let money move off of their books.

812
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 2: We know teams are cheap, so they might just be like, look,

813
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 2: we're gonna keep this guy available for the expansion draft,

814
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 2: so we don't have to pay him no more. Because

815
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Speaker 2: the expansion team now takes on a new contract, the

816
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 2: guy's contract that they poach, and so.

817
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Speaker 4: I don't know, I think it's gonna be fun. I'm

818
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 4: all for expansions, especially for the.

819
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Speaker 2: Seattle fans that what happened to their team is so

820
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 2: disgusting and gutless. Where David Stern allows this group to

821
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 2: come in that promised everybody.

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Speaker 4: No, I know, I get it.

823
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Speaker 2: We were Oklahoma base, but we would never move the

824
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 2: team never and they moved its team out of a

825
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 2: top like six medium market to a bottom three medium market,

826
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 2: which is like the horrible business. First second, these great

827
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 2: fans from this incredible basketball community get robbed, and so

828
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 2: I'm glad Seattle's gonna get what they deserve. Man, those

829
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 2: people have been hungry and starving ever since their team

830
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 2: got stolen, which is like twenty years now.

831
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Speaker 4: It's just hard to believe.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy Katy Katie's first year, right, so he's about

833
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 3: eighteen eighteen years in.

834
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Speaker 4: Crazy. No, I don't think he's doing that. City never

835
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 4: gets gets mentioned for like.

836
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Speaker 1: An expansion city. I feel like that's a great fan

837
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Speaker 1: base they have.

838
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 5: Arenas NBA used to be there.

839
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Speaker 4: I don't know.

840
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 2: People say like they allegedly the NBA left because they

841
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 2: just did black people so much and there was just

842
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 2: too many black players in the league at the time

843
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 2: when they left.

844
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, they just at that time, that's what they That's

845
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 4: a legend, allegend.

846
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,280
Speaker 2: I've never been there. I don't know about Kansas City's

847
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 2: racial politics or whatever.

848
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 4: Cities I know. I don't know.

849
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Speaker 2: I think Kansas City would be interesting, but again, Seattle

850
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 2: is such a huge city, just.

851
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,720
Speaker 4: So much wealth in the city. Easy.

852
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 3: Rather, I'd probably go to Seattle. Seattle, I feel like Vegas.

853
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 5: Not even think about state taxes my money.

854
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's way cheaper, cheaper, way cheaper, much better.

855
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 3: That's probably man close to l a going on.

856
00:42:58,360 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: I don't want to be in the cloud, in the

857
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,919
Speaker 1: clouds all day in Seattle. The weather is not only

858
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: the clouds, but the cannabis clouds.

859
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 3: There's no one contacts in Seattle either.

860
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 2: Okay, personal and compact on wages or retirement income.

861
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 4: Okay yo, both good cities. But why Seattle for you, Danny?

862
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 3: I just didn't want to be in the Vegas got

863
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 3: too much BS going.

864
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,479
Speaker 4: On, bro, Like, what kind of bs are you talking about?

865
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 3: Man, I'm just cool. It's hot as prostitution kind of.

866
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 1: You're not gonna live on the strip.

867
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 3: It's a lot.

868
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 5: Golf courses are great.

869
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 3: I just never got experience. I would like to experience Seattle.

870
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 4: Only to meet Seattle after three days.

871
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 2: You can't compete with It's an organic, ready made, crazy,

872
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 2: rabid fan base. You're gonna have a home court, actual

873
00:43:55,400 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: home court advantage from day one in Seattle, whereas Vegas,

874
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 2: you know it's gonna be a bunch of La and

875
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 2: New York mothers.

876
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: Tourist period, it's gonna be a tourist crowd for Vegas.

877
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they're gonna have work to do in terms

878
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 2: of building up an actual fan base for the team

879
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 2: where Seattle, I'm telling you they're gonna hit the ground

880
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 2: running with enthusiasm.

881
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 3: For that over Vegas. Bro Vegas is one of not

882
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 3: a fan of it, brom disrespecting Vegas enough time.

883
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: You should be a fan of it. You you like,

884
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: think about it, think about it like this. You're thinking

885
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 1: about the strip and all this time. It's a family guy. Right, Yeah,

886
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: you love to eat right, all the.

887
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 5: Best restaurants easily. You know what I'm saying.

888
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: Taxes, your money gonna go so much further out there though,

889
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: you're gonna as crib for not that much.

890
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

891
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: Weather gonna be good, You're gonna be living. You're gonna

892
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: be like thirty minutes from the strip. You' ain't gonna

893
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: be hanging out on the script with you.

894
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 3: Location wise, it is probably better, Honestly, wise is probably.

895
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: I love to go places where it's good food, Like

896
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You're gonna get a as

897
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 1: restaurant anytime. Go in there with the wifey, get on

898
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: out of there to the crib, and that's the stuff

899
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 1: is open late.

900
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 5: You can get food. I love open late. Yes, I

901
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 5: fly back home and I might want something to eat

902
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 5: and stuff clothes. I'm like, damn, I might want to

903
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 5: you know what I mean?

904
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 3: In his noights everywhere, trying to stop.

905
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 5: Flights from everywhere, and you don't think of it like

906
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 5: it's just party. Is too much going on? You're not

907
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 5: gonna you don't have to be in there.

908
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 4: What's going on?

909
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying?

910
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 2: All right, now that we got expansion out the way,

911
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 2: we gotta get some serious talk. It's on the minds

912
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,479
Speaker 2: of every single NBA fan out there, And that's Rudy

913
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 2: Gobar's legacy when he leaves the game. Y'all, like, what's

914
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 2: what's Rudy's legacy gonna be? Recently, Rudy said that.

915
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 4: He wants to be an NBA champion. Of course, we

916
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 4: all want to be.

917
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 2: NBA champions and also be considered the best defender in

918
00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:59,439
Speaker 2: the history of nothing.

919
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 4: Utah Jazz obviously not the Minnesota Timberwolves. Come on now,

920
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 4: he said, the NBA's history. Y'all. Let me tell you

921
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 4: give you guys a quote, really quickly quote. I'm really

922
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 4: focused on the present moment, being an NBA champion. That's

923
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 4: the objective.

924
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 2: Yes, champion, best defender in history four times, and then

925
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 2: after that, I know that the day I retire, I

926
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 2: have plenty of things on the side to keep me busy.

927
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 4: So basically, he understands he's on the other side of

928
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 4: his career. He's thinking about the end. We all think

929
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 4: about the end as we get older. But he's saying history, Danny,

930
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 4: four fucking depoys. How do you argue with that? Arre

931
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 4: you against that?

932
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 3: I could put him in the top ten maybe okay,

933
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 3: top ten, maybe top five, And I don't know if

934
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 3: I can do that. I don't think he's I can

935
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 3: put him in the top ten.

936
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 4: I don't think any top I don't have.

937
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: Him in my top ten times like me personally, because

938
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 1: his his resume speak louder than guys who I.

939
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 3: Probably have as a better defender.

940
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 5: But his resume is say different, What.

941
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 2: Kind of guys would you have over Rudy that most

942
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 2: people wouldn't that people might be surprised about, like a

943
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 2: guy that you said, maybe his resume isn't dead.

944
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: The theo ratleft Brom like I had to play against

945
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: him though, Like no, seriously, I know he don't have

946
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: the defensive player of the years, but he was intimidating

947
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: to play against, like like he has come from the.

948
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 3: Other side of that.

949
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 4: He was a great rim protector.

950
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 5: Oh my god, when you talk about protecting.

951
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 4: Blocks game every year he was Layton just just like

952
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 4: he was.

953
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: Just fantastic on defense. Guys like him, uh, I mean

954
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 1: the obvious ones are like KG, the Armonzo, kim Bag,

955
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 1: you know those guys. Rudy is is a great defender

956
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 1: because he's because he's over seven feet, but he doesn't

957
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: have the athleticism some of these other stuffs the first

958
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: half to where they'll go up on the side of

959
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: the backboard like Elijah Want Like he's not in the

960
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: top ten for me. You know when you talk about

961
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 1: like defensive impact, it's like he never came up as

962
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: intimidating and some of these other guys like a force

963
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: like the Kemba was intimidating. Yeah, of course, you know

964
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like Alonzo was intimidating as a defender,

965
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: like all the guys in the top Tim are intimidating defenders,

966
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: Gary Payton, Robbin, they were.

967
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 5: Intimidating, Yeah, run our test intimidating.

968
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, Rudy.

969
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 5: I put him on the same level as Tim Duncan.

970
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 4: Though, see this is where this is where you lose me.

971
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 2: I don't think he's even close because Timmy, you know

972
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 2: what's funny, we had that conversation about twenty thirteen finals,

973
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 2: which by that time this is Duncan's.

974
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 4: Sixteenth year in the NBA.

975
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 2: They did take him out for the final possession of

976
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,439
Speaker 2: or that possession where you guys were trying to stop

977
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 2: them from making and taking a three end up giving

978
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 2: up the offensive rebound to Bosh. They took him out

979
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 2: for mobility reasons in the year sixteen. The reason why

980
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 2: I can't like Duncan was never getting taken out a

981
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 2: big defensive moments in the playoffs when he was in.

982
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 4: Year eight, year seven.

983
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 2: We can say that about Rudy Gober in the prime

984
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 2: of his fucking career. He's getting sack during defensive possessions.

985
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 2: So now I don't want to hear he's as good

986
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 2: as Tim.

987
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:42,919
Speaker 3: Duncans, bros.

988
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: Let's weigh it, Tim Duncan. We're looking at he has

989
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 1: fifteen all defensive teams. Yes, no defensive player of the

990
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: years when consistence, he has four defensive players here. If

991
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: Rudy wins won more than I'll put him in my

992
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: top ten. I mean, and he'll have an argument for

993
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 1: the greatest.

994
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 4: Defensive defensive player of the years. Is nuts, that's nuts.

995
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 2: But nobody's ever thought of Rudy gob as the most

996
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 2: dominant defender.

997
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 4: They've like nobody, and he's been very effective in terms of.

998
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 2: Especially he would have looked better in our error right

999
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 2: because he would never have to go to to switch

1000
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 2: out on ever he would have he could have stayed

1001
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 2: in yeah, all day.

1002
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 5: He's gonna look better, and none of the.

1003
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 4: Bigs he's playing against would ever be spacing out. The

1004
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 4: three would be down there.

1005
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 3: It's a different game.

1006
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: It's a different game he got put into and to

1007
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,879
Speaker 1: win Defensive Player of the Year four times, it's pretty good.

1008
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 5: But I still he can't come off as an intimidating defender.

1009
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 5: But he can't just sit in there.

1010
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 2: Can't tell me you're better than Bill Russell and Kevin

1011
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:45,720
Speaker 2: Garnet at defense.

1012
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 3: Bro Yes, tough. I don't know if you can put

1013
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 3: him in the top ten.

1014
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 5: No, not the top ten because of this era. If

1015
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,760
Speaker 5: he played in our he'll have he'll have an argument.

1016
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 2: Not to rehash this, but I don't think he's been

1017
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 2: a better defensive player than Draymond Green either, to be honest,

1018
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 2: just Dremond has been such an impact as the Swiss

1019
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 2: Army Knife kind of de.

1020
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 5: What you look for in a defender in this era.

1021
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, in this era, in the same area.

1022
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's why he is not

1023
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: looking like like he should look like. We're in an

1024
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: error to where less you're gonna have more guards and

1025
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 1: forwards to win defensive Play of the year, whereas in

1026
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: my era it was big man a big man only

1027
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:27,800
Speaker 1: well maybe not because of Wimby.

1028
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 5: Wimby is just like he's probably.

1029
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 4: Going to I think it's over for guys, and the

1030
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 4: greatest defender ever.

1031
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's He's the only person to me that I've

1032
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 2: seen with my eyes that Ka mirror KG like in

1033
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 2: terms of impact both off the ball, on the ball,

1034
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:50,439
Speaker 2: out in space at the basket. Because they you can't

1035
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 2: even bully him for real anymore, because like his rookie year.

1036
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 4: Gods would just get into his chest and just be

1037
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 4: like back up and just you know, punish him and

1038
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 4: put him underneath the basket. Now you can't even do

1039
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 4: that shit. So now he's too strong to do that. Like,

1040
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 4: now what do you do? So yeah, Rudy, I know,

1041
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 4: I know.

1042
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 2: This has been a burning question for every NBA fan

1043
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 2: out there. Rudy Robert's legacy. It's something we talk about

1044
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:14,879
Speaker 2: at the barbershop all the time.

1045
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: When Wemby's done playing, the Defensive Player of the Year

1046
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:21,280
Speaker 1: is going to be called the Wemby Award.

1047
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 4: Fact. Big facts. All right, let's get into our last one.

1048
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 2: Another major major topic is SGA and it's sort of

1049
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 2: standing in the NBA right now. And Kendrick Perkins, one

1050
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 2: of the most illustrative commentators in the NBA right now,

1051
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 2: he said, he said, SGA is the Michael Jackson of

1052
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 2: the NBA.

1053
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 4: And here's his explanation for that.

1054
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 6: He is the Michael Jackson of basketball. He's an artist.

1055
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 6: He's an artist, and every album that he puts out

1056
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 6: single year goes domin when you talk about joining the

1057
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:07,320
Speaker 6: elite company every single year. Last year he joined Michael

1058
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 6: Jordan as the only player to average thirty. Why shooting

1059
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 6: over fifty percent for three consecutive season. Guess what, he's

1060
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 6: about to join Michael Jordan again this year for his

1061
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 6: fourth season, averaging over thirty shooting over fifty percent from

1062
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,760
Speaker 6: the field. He's shooting fifty five percent from the field.

1063
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 6: He's though, he's the he's a top leader for his

1064
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 6: tough may tough contested two point shots. I have never

1065
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 6: seen a god this efficient in my entire life. When

1066
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 6: it comes down to him being able to score at

1067
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,800
Speaker 6: all three levels, everybody want to make these rights and

1068
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:46,439
Speaker 6: complaints about him being the quote unquote free free throw merch.

1069
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 6: Look at this list right here, coach, look at this

1070
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 6: and to see this is David Robinson, Tim Duncan, the keem.

1071
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 5: Olajah one, Larry Bird.

1072
00:53:56,200 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 6: He like he's beating all those guys at six, he's

1073
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 6: below the rear.

1074
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 3: Right, and you know, it's amazing to me.

1075
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 4: Is this one everybody's game? So I guess the the

1076
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,879
Speaker 4: his sort of off arm move is that his moon walk.

1077
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 3: He has some change direction. You're getting his bag though.

1078
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 3: You what I'm saying, tween the legs, tween twin get

1079
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 3: him change shifting, step back, a little bump. So yeah,

1080
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 3: probably his little step back.

1081
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 2: I think Kirk is calling his seasons basically the equivalent

1082
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,879
Speaker 2: of an album, and he's got like just a bunch

1083
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 2: of classic albums.

1084
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 4: At this point, he's about to win another MVP.

1085
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 3: I mean, you know Drake yet, but I mean he's

1086
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:35,879
Speaker 3: got he got some hits.

1087
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 2: He's got, man, he's on his way in terms of

1088
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 2: you know, when we were watching the other day against

1089
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,240
Speaker 2: Boston and Boston is thrown basically everything in the kitchen

1090
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 2: sink at him and it's just nothing they could do

1091
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 2: with shit.

1092
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 4: I'm just like, man, we're really watching something extremely great.

1093
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 2: Paul, and I think, you know, Michael Jackson being the

1094
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 2: greatest center entertainer in the history of all time. I

1095
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 2: think Shay is trying to put a resume together that

1096
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,240
Speaker 2: would be befitting of that statue.

1097
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: Well, it goes beyond the numbers, you know, because when

1098
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Speaker 1: I think of Michael Jackson, Michael Jackson was must see.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I don't see that as SGA.

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Speaker 2: Sure, I don't think yet anyway, not yet, Like if

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Speaker 2: Okay he's playing and you know the Lakers are or

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Speaker 2: like who else, it's like other guys I will wat

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Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards there's other guys I will watch before SGA,

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Speaker 2: so I wouldn't put them in the same category as

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Speaker 2: Michael Jackson.

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Speaker 1: I would say, if SGA have to compare him to

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Speaker 1: like an artist all time right now, I say.

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Speaker 5: Like he just quietly gets it done and he's constantly

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Speaker 5: I mean J Cole.

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Speaker 2: Sure like that just very very highly effected, affected a

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Speaker 2: lot of hits, a lot of hits.

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Speaker 5: I'll give the Cole like.

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Speaker 4: Hall of Fame resume.

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Speaker 5: He's not like.

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Speaker 1: Superstar as far as like not that he's not a superstar,

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Speaker 1: like he's a superstar, but he's not like must watch

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Speaker 1: because there's other artistical if they're all playing the same time,

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Speaker 1: sure like if Kanye was the concert, Yeah it's not

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Speaker 1: the Flashes, is there?

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Speaker 5: Gotcha? But I'll give them J Cole, not Michael Jackson.

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Speaker 2: I think for me a SGA, I think if they

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Speaker 2: go out and win the championship and he's doing his

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Speaker 2: commercials and he's doing his annoying thing with his team

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Speaker 2: interviews and all of that stuff after the game, I

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Speaker 2: think gods around the league are gonna get tired of it,

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Speaker 2: and that's when it's gonna become something different where everybody

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Speaker 2: universally hates this freaking team, and everybody's trying to kill

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Speaker 2: these guys in gun for him. And that's when I

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Speaker 2: think OKAC will become something that you gotta watch because

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Speaker 2: guys are taking it so serious against them.

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Speaker 4: And they have to meet that challenge. Right now, it

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Speaker 4: feels like there's still a nice story.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, they're still young, but there's a target

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Speaker 3: on the back. It's just not as big as not

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Speaker 3: yet in the celebrity is way different back then. Mike

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Speaker 3: Michael Jackson. Bro, there's nobody ever.

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Speaker 4: Know he's not Michael Jackson. That was hyperblectly.

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Speaker 3: I think you are ever going to be that. But

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Speaker 3: I mean, but like, so this is what I mean, Danny.

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Speaker 1: Sorry to cut you off, Jordan, because what's the difference,

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Speaker 1: Like Mike Jackson and Mike is pretty much the same.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would. I would agree with that.

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Speaker 4: People feigning and crying in the stands and shit like that. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: we're not doing that.

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Speaker 2: But what I would say about OKC is like, I

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Speaker 2: remember the twenty ten to twenty eleven season when Lebron

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Speaker 2: and them first joined Miami, and literally, this is the

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Speaker 2: first time I ever wanted to buy League pass in

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Speaker 2: my life because everybody hated these motherfuckers in every arena

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Speaker 2: was like, yeah, it was gladiator ship every fucking game

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Speaker 2: with that team, and I would like to see, okay,

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Speaker 2: see get to something close to that in terms of

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Speaker 2: everybody wants to kill them.

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Speaker 4: I want I want that moment to happen, and I

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Speaker 4: don't know if it could happen.

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Speaker 3: If they don't, you got to get like a superstar

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Speaker 3: or randomly like how Katie went to Golden State, like

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Speaker 3: I think it happened organically, Betwa to that extent.

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Speaker 4: No, it's never gonna be to that.

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Speaker 3: He left go to Miami that a lot of people

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Speaker 3: came to like they hated that, and they came out

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Speaker 3: the whole little we're going one too. Katie went to

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Speaker 3: Golden State, it's like yo, because in their minds, like

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Speaker 3: you're cheating.

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Speaker 4: If they're throwing batteries at him in Milwaukee, is some

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Speaker 4: crazy ship like that. It's like, bro, like every team

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Speaker 4: wanted to smash those guys.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's when Shade will get to another

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Speaker 2: level when everybody is treating him like yo, no, this

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Speaker 2: is the guy, and we're measuring ourselves and we know

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Speaker 2: this is the most important game of the season for us,

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Speaker 2: and we're treating it like that. And that's when I

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Speaker 2: think the OKAC thing will turn into something even more

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Speaker 2: fun than what it is right now, which is like

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Speaker 2: a cute, cuddly they're like a college team all.

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Speaker 4: They really love each other. Oh yeah, it's a cute.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait till it turns to something more negative. Anyway, Folks,

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