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Speaker 1: Now I don't own it anymore, But when when you

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Speaker 1: time for my next guest. Happy to have on the

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Speaker 1: show for the very first time. My next guest as

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Speaker 1: Football League at nose tackle those tackles for the Denver Broncoles.

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Speaker 1: My high City, Okay. He played college football at Delaware

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Speaker 1: and signed with the Indianapolis Coats as an undrafted free

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Speaker 1: If it's a Lineman a recently announced two year deal.

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Speaker 1: Please welcome to Money Making Conversation, Zacchara Winston Kirk. Did

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Speaker 1: I get it right back? Did I get it right?

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Speaker 1: I love that somebody to day homework man's up. First

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Speaker 1: of all, congratulations on you m being who you are,

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Speaker 1: first of all, And I say that that's why I

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Speaker 1: created the show, because give individuals platforms. And know this,

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Speaker 1: whenever you want to come on my show is act.

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Speaker 1: You can come on my show because you're trying to

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Speaker 1: I want to share my story with you. And I

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Speaker 1: thought that was important because what happens is a team

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Speaker 1: of my My My Talent team we meet every Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: and we meet Friday and we go with guests and

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Speaker 1: your your name came up and I went wow, I

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Speaker 1: love his story. I also love the fact that you

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Speaker 1: want to get into entrepreneurship. Also know the fact that

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Speaker 1: really funny. They'll tell you that I have this this show.

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Speaker 1: I featured more undrafted free agents for the NFL on

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Speaker 1: my show than first round picks because of the fact

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Speaker 1: So tell us about that experience of you know, you

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Speaker 1: go through everybody wants to get drafted and you don't

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Speaker 1: get drafted. Tell us those steps that went to you

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Speaker 1: making it to the n Apple's coat. Well, see, man, honestly, um,

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Speaker 1: just like you said, everybody, you know, everybody that plays

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie man me. In my situation, I

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Speaker 1: was kind of I was like playing Devil's Advocate with myself.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, well, you know, I went to a small school.

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Speaker 1: You know, I had a good seed a year and

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Speaker 1: all the other stuff. But um, I know how the

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Speaker 1: NFL lives as a business, and you know, small, small

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Speaker 1: school guys they get a chance. But you know that

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Speaker 1: they'd rather take a chance on a guy that went

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Speaker 1: to Georgia, Florida or Miami, you know, over a guy

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Speaker 1: So I kind of played devil advocate with myself and

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Speaker 1: I still felt like I could get drafted, but just

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Speaker 1: not as high as I would like like to ask.

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Speaker 1: And Um, you know, the draft came up, and I

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Speaker 1: had a couple of teams called me during the draft saying,

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Speaker 1: you know, we got X amount of picks left. You know,

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Speaker 1: just stay by your phone. And in the end of

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Speaker 1: the draft came in and none of them teams called me.

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Speaker 1: Um and man the coach that actually brought me in

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Speaker 1: for a top thirty visit before the draft, and I

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Speaker 1: their coaches, familiar with the you know, familiar with the city.

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Speaker 1: I had been there twice because of the combine, right,

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Speaker 1: so you know, yeah exactly. So you know, I kind

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Speaker 1: the team. But I knew that those guys they believed

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Speaker 1: prior to the draft. I'm gonna ask you, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: ask you straight up, Zachary, this is about food that

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Speaker 1: you know. I'm a big eater of Zacharry. Now you

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Speaker 1: I fear you. I fear you. I'm the wrong person

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Speaker 1: to come into town and hanging out with everybody. Game. Wait,

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Speaker 1: Sean McDonald, I had a couple of friends came to town.

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Speaker 1: I don't see see what do you? You're based in Denver? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I bought a house and Denver two years ago when

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Speaker 1: I signed my my initial country. I'm I'm we're gonna

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Speaker 1: I got I got eats all over this country, Zachor.

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Speaker 1: I've never been to Denver, so I know you've got

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Speaker 1: some spaces up there for me. Oh yeah, I got some.

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Speaker 1: I got I got the scots for you with Trump

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Speaker 1: So you six now I'm hey, look, look, hey, I

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Speaker 1: keep it being. I keep you the stack. I can't

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Speaker 1: definitely gonna we could be the TV show Me and

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Speaker 1: Zach around just put you know, wasn't worried about him.

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Speaker 1: But I'm really the problem, ye man, he look, hey, look,

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Speaker 1: I gotta be disciplined with this thing. Man. I don't

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Speaker 1: see people think leave, But you know that's what I'm

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, that we ain't gonna meet all

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Speaker 1: some teammates out there for you. Man, I keep put

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Speaker 1: on the weight. Let me go. Let me call my

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Speaker 1: boy Rashawn. That's what you're gone. That's what we're gonna do.

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Speaker 1: Call my boy Rashawn. You got issues. He goes straighten

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Speaker 1: it out in one week. One week, I'm gonna start

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Speaker 1: a little bit. People understand my love can be an

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Speaker 1: asset in the NFL. M HM, because there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of dudes I heard they ain't been around Rashaan Maketh fat.

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Speaker 1: I'm just tell you six two, you don't need my help.

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Speaker 1: You're walt no, no, I don't need So let's talk

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Speaker 1: about man, just just you know, you you you know,

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Speaker 1: we all know NFL has a short window. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's a physical sport. You know, you go in doing

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Speaker 1: there is an end. Anybody who goes to the NFL,

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Speaker 1: I think to go to retire twenty years and now

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Speaker 1: is not really comprehending what they're getting into. But you

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Speaker 1: decided that you're gonna become an entrepreneur. Talk about that absolutely, yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: I mean, um, I've always been interested in business and

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Speaker 1: in entrepreneurship. I just didn't really know how to go

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Speaker 1: I just studied what I liked. So once I got

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Speaker 1: to the NFL and I noticed, you know, there was

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Speaker 1: that weren't doing what I was interested in, I was like,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I gotta I gotta start figuring this

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Speaker 1: what I've seen. I've seen guys, uh, I've seen guys

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Speaker 1: been and I can do it too, you know. But

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Speaker 1: it's just like I feel like having multiple streams of

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Speaker 1: what keeps you, uh, you know, above water and life

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Speaker 1: and um. So you know, I met with a couple

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Speaker 1: of guys and one of my good friends and Denver,

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Speaker 1: his name is Christian Warten, and he went to he

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Speaker 1: got his NBA, went to business school, and uh. He

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Speaker 1: approached me with this with this plan about coffee and uh,

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Speaker 1: and he kind of just he broke it down to me.

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Speaker 1: And I told him I was like me and him

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Speaker 1: had been one of the lake with each other based on,

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Speaker 1: you know, on the business side, not even on the

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Speaker 1: football side, because he's a football fan too. And and

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Speaker 1: I kind of expressed and we both expressed the the

649
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Speaker 1: need and want for athletes to own revenue in their

650
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Speaker 1: own brands and in their names. I love this. I

651
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Speaker 1: love this interview. I want to talk about your mom,

652
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Speaker 1: what you heard about the Foundation of the Syndicre Award

653
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Speaker 1: presented at the Foundation for Psycho dosis research. First of all,

654
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Speaker 1: tell everybody what psycodocious is and why you became a spokesperson,

655
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 1: and then would talk about your mom. Okay, yea. So

656
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: sarcudoce is pretty much it's a it's an inflammatory disease

657
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Speaker 1: and attacks your main organs, um you know, brain, heart

658
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Speaker 1: learns never I mean your skin, you get it, you

659
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Speaker 1: get it, you get it all. You can get it anywhere.

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Speaker 1: And what it does is pretty much it it caused

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Speaker 1: inflammation in those oldens. So my mom she has it

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Speaker 1: in her lungs and it caused she had she had

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Speaker 1: a real bad flayer one day and the medicine they

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Speaker 1: gave her it caused the sarcuedos to eat up a

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Speaker 1: third of her lungs. So she has a learned in

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Speaker 1: the quarter right now. And and you know, it's just

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Speaker 1: it's something she's had for fifty years and it kind

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Speaker 1: of you know, it definitely, um, it definitely doesn't allow

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Speaker 1: her to be who she was when I was growing up.

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Speaker 1: And so now tell us about the that's the disease illness,

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Speaker 1: tell us about to find out. Well, see, honestly, man

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Speaker 1: and um, I wanted to kind of bring awareness tool

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Speaker 1: and I was trying to figure out the way we

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Speaker 1: can do that without um, you know, being so in

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Speaker 1: your face with it. And what happened was we pretty

676
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Speaker 1: much contacted uh the Foundations producing research so that we

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Speaker 1: wanted to get on board and help him out. And

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Speaker 1: they came back and was like, we want you to

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Speaker 1: be the national spokes person. Actually, so it worked out,

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Speaker 1: so Zack Zack. They just came back to just exack

681
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Speaker 1: because you got personality. So you know, you just you

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Speaker 1: just didn't call like a regular football plasic. Who is

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Speaker 1: that you? Funny? You know you got a little swag?

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Speaker 1: Are you? Let's see the photo? They see little swag?

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Speaker 1: I think that's a shadow of a private jet that

686
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Speaker 1: you're walking by. I know where you had, brother, I

687
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Speaker 1: know how to take photo, look and put that shot

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Speaker 1: in the background. That that G four, that G four

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Speaker 1: shadow in the background. Yeah yeah, man. So just and

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Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, man, I tried to I

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Speaker 1: pride myself on being a good live in my life, right,

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Speaker 1: so I feel like if you do those things, man,

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Speaker 1: things have come back to folks for you. So a

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Speaker 1: lot of times when I want to get stuff done,

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Speaker 1: it just happens. I tell people that a whole time, like,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I wish I could give you this crazy

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Speaker 1: success story, but at the same time, like I just

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Speaker 1: want stuff to happen to anything. It ended up happening

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Speaker 1: for me. So that's pretty much how I went down.

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Speaker 1: And that's that's really special. And so so now this offseason,

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Speaker 1: so you're kind of doing your thing, getting ready for

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Speaker 1: what the PTO? Uh I'm getting. I know it's three letters.

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Speaker 1: I know in three letters, O what what is it? Dog?

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Speaker 1: What is it? Dog? What is it? Do? I'm saying

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Speaker 1: that I wish you got p t O damn off,

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Speaker 1: damn off something like I love this dude many I'll

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Speaker 1: just tell you man that you know, I know when

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Speaker 1: you call these shows, you don't know what they're spect Uh.

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Speaker 1: This is this respect is respect for you and your brand.

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Speaker 1: And that's what I'm telling you. That you called me

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Speaker 1: at the time and uh and communicated with me. Tell

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Speaker 1: the company that represents you, uh they do a great job,

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Speaker 1: or represent the other talent like you, that this is

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Speaker 1: a home. It's home for all you guys. And I

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Speaker 1: know that my brand is but uh, just in clothes.

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Speaker 1: I want you to talk about the donation made for

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Speaker 1: NFL my cause my cleats at the NFL back to

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Speaker 1: every year and I'm sure tied to psycho dosis research. Correct,

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Speaker 1: Yeah it was, man, Actually it was. It's crazy man,

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Speaker 1: this guy ship. We received the largest donation in the

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Speaker 1: we got an hunderdound now was donated for a pair

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Speaker 1: of cleats that I won the game that um you

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Speaker 1: know I got. There were customers they were customizing. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The tribute was obviously for the foundation of talkerden your

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Speaker 1: research soon. Um yeah, man, we got it was crazy.

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Speaker 1: this is what Sean mcgonald I've learned. And when you

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Speaker 1: when you start branding people, I remember what else um

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Speaker 1: Mark managed to Steve Harvey Wait before I started managed

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Speaker 1: we were standing up comics and Steve was always going

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Speaker 1: on stage and say his name. Why does he say

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Speaker 1: his name? He said, so when they leave his days,

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Speaker 1: they know who I am. Okay. So I always thought

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Speaker 1: that if you got intro, that was enough. No, you

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Speaker 1: constantly should brand yourself. You're constantly to tell yourself and

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Speaker 1: for it's just that's what as an advertising work. Don't

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Speaker 1: you turn on your TV you always see a Chick

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Speaker 1: fil A commercial. Just think if Chick fil A just

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Speaker 1: stopped marketing, would you you start a question in the

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Speaker 1: You stop? You say, I think the BMW is better.

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Speaker 1: So what you learned in marketing you should do for yourself.

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Speaker 1: You cannot stop telling people enough about who you are,

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Speaker 1: or what you do or what you're capable of doing.

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Speaker 1: Taking from the professionals, young people, old people, people trying

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Speaker 1: to spread your spread to worry about your Name's not bragging,

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Speaker 1: it's promotion. It's advertising. So in the world we live

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Speaker 1: in today, you are walking talking advertisement. A lot of

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Speaker 1: people don't understand that, and I tell people that all

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Speaker 1: the time. Ra Sean McDonald, I can't say ras Sean McDonald. Enough. See,

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Speaker 1: when you say my name right, either two things are happening.

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Speaker 1: You know who I am or you or you're giving

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Speaker 1: me some money. I take either way, you give me money,

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Speaker 1: I'm happy If you say my name right, I don't

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Speaker 1: have to correct you, So I'm real happy. My next

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Speaker 1: guest is a well known person because I'm gonna say

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Speaker 1: his name correctly, not because of I'm supposed to, because

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Speaker 1: he deserves it. My next sense is a former professional

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Speaker 1: football player. You know, I like football, never a football.

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Speaker 1: I'm one of them couch potato people. Boy. I always say,

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Speaker 1: Bob I was out there, I could tackle him. Boy.

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Speaker 1: If I was out there, I can make that cash. Boy,

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Speaker 1: if I was out there, I scored that touchdown. That's

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Speaker 1: what Sean McDonald. No skill for it, but a lot

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Speaker 1: of mouth for it. He's an author, speaker, and now

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Speaker 1: marriage and family therapist intern. He's created a personal and

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Speaker 1: social development program called k I n G. That's King

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Speaker 1: Program for incoming freshman males at Texas Southern University as

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Speaker 1: my City third Ward, Texas, as we call it back

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Speaker 1: there in Houston. Please welcome to Money Making Conversation. For

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Speaker 1: the very first time, Jay Barnett I'm thank you for

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Speaker 1: having me. Brother. How you doing that? J Man? I'm

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Speaker 1: doing well. Man, blessed this morning. Man, Well, you have

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Speaker 1: to say I have to say blessed because I got

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Speaker 1: you on the air. This is a show that I

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Speaker 1: started almost a year and a half ago and at

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Speaker 1: the rise of this show in the popular this show

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Speaker 1: has caught me off guard. And to have the quality

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Speaker 1: of against like you on the show, let's me know

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Speaker 1: I'm doing the right thing. And then in your life,

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Speaker 1: you know, being a professional football player and the educated

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Speaker 1: professional football player, do you do you carry the badge

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Speaker 1: of being a performed professional What do you carry that

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Speaker 1: badge in your life being a performed professional football player? Um,

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Speaker 1: it all depends on the setting. Um it depends on

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Speaker 1: the group that I'm in. Um, you know, it's a

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Speaker 1: privious to be, you know, to have been part of

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Speaker 1: such a you know, an elite society, and um it

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Speaker 1: just having you know, has that experience. But I think

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Speaker 1: more importantly, UM, it's what I've learned to sort of

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Speaker 1: hold the badge that I wear now as a family therapist,

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Speaker 1: as an author, as a speaker, because I mean, as

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Speaker 1: you know, football is still a game. It's entertainment, you know.

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Speaker 1: And I mean, of course it's been a blessing to

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Speaker 1: a lot of guys life too, you know, the blessed

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Speaker 1: their families in their livelihoods. But for me, it's been

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Speaker 1: about you know, leaving something or creating something that could

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Speaker 1: be um, very beneficial to those either that are here

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Speaker 1: or those that are coming behind me. And so that

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Speaker 1: that's sort of the bad stop I've learned to embrace

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Speaker 1: because you know, you you see a lot of athletes, man,

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Speaker 1: they hold to what they used to do it. But

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Speaker 1: it used to be nothing wrong with that. But that

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Speaker 1: was just a very small segment of my life. And

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Speaker 1: the life after that has been much more you know,

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Speaker 1: uh grant than that part. But I tell you it's

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Speaker 1: it's special though to say, you you you played in

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Speaker 1: the National Football League, because that's the number one sport

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Speaker 1: in America, and so that's a that's that's a probably

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Speaker 1: doors for you. And oh yeah, absolutely, yeah, absolutely, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, opening up a lot of doors. And even

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Speaker 1: though I didn't you know, have the career that I wanted,

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Speaker 1: um and just having an opportunity and then just being

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Speaker 1: able you know, to to play a rain of ball

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Speaker 1: and just to you know, be you know, just just

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Speaker 1: you know, a great opportunity. And then you know, as

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00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: as America and the people were, you know, we love

849
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: athletes who love the champions spirit, we love the warrior mentality,

850
00:46:55,400 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: and so most definitely it opened up doors. Um also,

851
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,240
Speaker 1: you know, and open up those doors. The education component

852
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 1: has allowed me to stay in the boom that the

853
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: doors are open up to and be able to grab

854
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: your attention to people. So being able to have that

855
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: balance and being able to be seen as an athlete, educator,

856
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 1: uh off evopen leader. You know, all of the intertwined together.

857
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: You know, it's just really a powerful combination. There's really

858
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: interesting when I when I talked to individuals who who

859
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 1: have generated their early stages of success due to the physicality,

860
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 1: you know, because you know that there's a period where

861
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 1: that cannot support you anymore. Did did you know what

862
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying? Because you can only play football for so long,

863
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: you can only run fast for so long, get only

864
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: dunkle ball for so long. You know, Like I've reading

865
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: the Vince Carter, he wants to come back one more

866
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 1: year and he's not the Vinceanity when he came out

867
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: was dominating and and hitting three pointers from half court.

868
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 1: When when when? When? When? When it was time to

869
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 1: end your your successful run as a physical athlete, as

870
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: a physical generating your income. What decisions did you have

871
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: to run through your mind and say, hey, it's time

872
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: to go, it's time to disconnect. Well, for me, it

873
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: was kind of like the decision was, um was made

874
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: for me because the opportunity wasn't there um for me.

875
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 1: You know, the physical part of it that I was

876
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,800
Speaker 1: in shape, Um, you know I was counted and not

877
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: of an actually effort. You know at the time, you

878
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: know Green Bay wanted to go a different direction. Um,

879
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 1: and they was, and so UM I think you know,

880
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 1: at that point I had other opportunities to to to

881
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 1: go work out and the trial and you know, UM,

882
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: I remember having a phone called my agents, you know,

883
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: well like okay, well you can go play Arena League.

884
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: And then at the time they had NFL Europe, so

885
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: you know, Um, then you don't went through that process,

886
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: and then you don't went through the process of going

887
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: to the Canadian League. I think for me, man emotionally

888
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: I was just tired because at that point, you know,

889
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 1: you're trying to figure out because you keep chasing its dream.

890
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 1: Um And and at some point, I think the majority

891
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,320
Speaker 1: of the athletes, whether they had the career or not

892
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: or then and let's say they got there, they played

893
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: a few years and something that happened, They got hurt

894
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 1: and it got out and it was trying to get

895
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: back in. You know, eventually the dream feels like a nightmare,

896
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So, uh, you have to

897
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: have as they say that come to Jesus conversation talking

898
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 1: like a decision man, like you know, but at the time,

899
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,879
Speaker 1: I was like five years old, So it's like, dude,

900
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: I want to I mean, you know, you know how

901
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: there's a football man, you're you're old, you know what

902
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's like twenty seven years old. So and

903
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: as you um you know alluded to you, your your

904
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: your body has an expiration date on it. So you're

905
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: the only jump, run and do all those different things

906
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 1: for so long and and eventually you have to make

907
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: a decision um to move on. And that's really hard

908
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: for a lot of men. Um And you see guys

909
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 1: hold on as long as they can because, to be

910
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: honest with Sean, many of us, man, you know, um,

911
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 1: you know, many of us we didn't prepare for that.

912
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 1: After you know what I mean, we got we got there,

913
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: and it's just like, oh, now this is not gonna

914
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 1: be for long because absolute as men, we put our

915
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: eggs all in one basket. I never forget having this

916
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: conversation with this guy playing for the Browns and at

917
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 1: the time, we're working on creating this coalition, on this

918
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: program for athletes who are either two or three years

919
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: removed or guys that are just coming into the league

920
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: to sort of help them get their mind right. And

921
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 1: he was a white guy. He said, the difference between

922
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,439
Speaker 1: white players and black players. He said, when I came

923
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: into the league, I came into the league as a

924
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,760
Speaker 1: businessman who was playing football. And he said, the majority

925
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 1: of the black players come into the league as football

926
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 1: players trying to do business. And so that disparity, man

927
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 1: just opened up my pause, and I'm just like, man,

928
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 1: that's so real. And for them it's really a job,

929
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, It's like they show up,

930
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,919
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's not at all or nothing. For them,

931
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: there's a life after and for many of the ask

932
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 1: for the American players, it's like either this happened or

933
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: kift you know, it's back to you know square one.

934
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:05,800
Speaker 1: I want to ask you a question in the title

935
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 1: Hello King, claim your throne, because I've seen throne used

936
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 1: in uh several of your books. What do you mean

937
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: when you say throne, claim your throne? What is what

938
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 1: is your What is your perception of a throne? My

939
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,839
Speaker 1: perception of a throne has Claim your position and claim

940
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: your position, and claim your position in this or claim

941
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 1: your position in your community, Claim your position in the job,

942
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:31,320
Speaker 1: place in the school, wherever you reside, claim your position

943
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: in your position is this is where is what you represent?

944
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: You know where? Where is your state's planet? And wanted

945
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: them to know that your throne represents your territories, which

946
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: is your mind, body, and spirit. Claim your position in

947
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: those three elements because those three elements determines how are

948
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: you going to be remembered. It determines your decision, It

949
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 1: determines your behavior, It determines the generation that's within you,

950
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: either you know through your children, or it determines the

951
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: general that you want to affect. So if we can

952
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: get see these young men to claim their position. Like

953
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 1: you hear often when there's discussions about black men in

954
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: the black community, people are often said, if black men

955
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 1: would just take their place, if they would just you know,

956
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:14,919
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, so they would get fine

957
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: their positions. And so for me, it's just like, hey,

958
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: man claim your throne. Man, get a position wherever that's

959
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: whatever that is for you, get a position. You know

960
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And that's what I meant in charm

961
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: did that out because I know that's a defined, different

962
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 1: meeting for everyone, And it was very important to tie

963
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 1: your book. I wanted people understand that you know what

964
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 1: that that that term means something, that adjective, that description

965
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 1: to means something. That's important to understand that, especially when

966
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: you use the word purpose in your book. Now, now

967
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 1: I know you're not in Houston anymore. You move the

968
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: move to Dallas. Explain why you're in Dallas. Now know

969
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: it's for a good thing. But I always let everybody

970
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: know that Jamett is always on the move, is always

971
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 1: doing something innovative. Talk about the Dallas move. So, um,

972
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: I've been in uh been in grad school. This is

973
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: my third and final year. Thank god, thank you, thank you.

974
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 1: So um finishing up my internship as a marriage and

975
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: family therapist. And I've been in Houston. I've been Houston

976
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 1: ten years, and then I was in Atlanta for one

977
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: and came back to Houston and I was speaking of

978
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,840
Speaker 1: the event. And I've been in part of six months

979
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 1: just looking for a practice to work at. And I

980
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: got an opportunity to come to Dallas and to work

981
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:25,240
Speaker 1: up here at a private practice which is also black owned.

982
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: Uh got an honor um Ricky Football and um. And

983
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: I'm just great for the opportunity. He and I the

984
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 1: only two black male therapists in the area out of Crystal, Texas. Man.

985
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 1: And it's just been a blessing, um, just the number

986
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 1: of lives that you know, I've been able to impact

987
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,280
Speaker 1: and to be able to help people navigate through certain

988
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 1: issues and certain difficulties, whether it's emotional or mental um

989
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: issues and all sorts of I mean all sorts of

990
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: other mental disorders. And so I'm here in Dallas and

991
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: we're looking to establish the Keen program here as well.

992
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:03,320
Speaker 1: But as always, Houston gave me my start. I've always

993
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:07,879
Speaker 1: been indebted to Houston. Man. I think we're actually going

994
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 1: back a couple of weeks speaking at North Forest High School.

995
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: So any time I'm in Houston, you know, people know

996
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: to reach out to me, and I don't mind. So

997
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 1: made of my time and going out speaking to the

998
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 1: kids because uh, when when I started not only the

999
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: King program but the Need Project and writing books, I mean,

1000
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: Houston embraced me as their own and and I've just

1001
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 1: been very grateful to you know, the city and just

1002
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: you know the people that have really just um sort

1003
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: of surrounded themself around my mission. I'm Jason j I

1004
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 1: want to thank you for coming on the show North Flora.

1005
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,720
Speaker 1: See that's where I grew up in Farthbrook High School.

1006
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: Smiles's so that's where you're going to speak so well,

1007
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: I just know he's connecting Texas Southern right down the

1008
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: screen from my alma male, the University of Houston. So

1009
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: I know our relationship is gonna continue on a big way.

1010
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 1: But go out and by this book called Hello King,

1011
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 1: Claim Your Throne. But the very talented Jay Barnett, he's

1012
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 1: not letting the sport of the sport of professional football

1013
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,479
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1014
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:04,879
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1015
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 1: on my show brother. Yes, thank you, Sean, I appreciate

1016
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Speaker 1: the opportunity. King. All right, my man, and you back

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