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Speaker 1: Ricky, we got something you know you're from, Well, you're

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Speaker 1: from San Diego. Where do you live now? You are

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Speaker 2: I'll live in Northern California.

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Speaker 1: You live in Northern California. Now yeah, okay, well we

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Speaker 1: You recently spoke at legislation Texas. They're trying to ban

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Speaker 1: marijuana products. I guess his products will have the THC

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Speaker 2: It's I mean, yes, it's not. It's not supposed to.

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Speaker 3: But and that's why it's the issue is that, Okay,

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Speaker 3: pretty much you can go to a guas station in

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Speaker 1: Well damn, and they try so they don't. Like in California,

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Speaker 1: you have these like these specialty shops. You have cannabis

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Speaker 1: shops that you go into and you can buy you know,

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Speaker 1: obviously you can buy I don't know, Graham or whatever

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Speaker 4: I mean, you can probably speak to that a little

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Speaker 1: But so what they are they trying to like take

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Speaker 2: It's both, but it's a little extreme.

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Speaker 3: They're trying to ban it one hundred percent, and they're

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Speaker 3: And I think it's a good idea to open up

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Speaker 3: a little too much to say to ban it one

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Speaker 1: But you do realize that when like when they open

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Speaker 1: you know, only a select group of people get those licenses, right,

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Speaker 1: you know that, you know it's you know what we

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Speaker 1: Now we got you know, we're selling a little nickelbago

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Speaker 2: Case you be.

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Speaker 4: Woo woo.

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Speaker 1: Now they get a license and they get to capitalize

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Speaker 1: And then we get cut out of like, hey, wen,

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Speaker 2: Real Yeah, it's real, it's real.

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Speaker 5: And then then the funny thing about it is they

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Speaker 4: Yeah, once they find they cattach you on it.

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Speaker 6: But that that's that's exactly how it is.

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Speaker 5: And obviously you understand the other aspect, the of the

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Speaker 5: and we understand how that goes. It's always it's always

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Speaker 5: a double sided sword in the sense. But hopefully those

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, speaking of what you're talking about, Chad,

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Speaker 3: shouldn't be in prison. Yes, but also in most states

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Speaker 3: If you've been incarcerated for cannabis non violent cannabis related defense,

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Speaker 2: You can get access to a license.

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Speaker 3: But the issue is most of those people can't afford

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Speaker 2: Right. So yeah, so it don't really work.

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Speaker 1: So you get to keep your license. I know your homebok.

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Speaker 7: A cash that's a cash business, big one.

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Speaker 4: And it's just like alcohol prohibition.

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Speaker 1: They read bootleg moon shine and all that stuff, and

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Speaker 4: We can monetize it and wants anybody.

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Speaker 1: Look, once someone find they can make some money off it,

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Speaker 4: And it's not nearly that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, now, hey, you Califoi, they walk around, they'd

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Speaker 4: It ain't nothing.

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Speaker 1: How different do you think your career would have been

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Speaker 2: Even a higher level. No pun intended, but no.

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Speaker 3: The first time I was it was in high school,

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Speaker 3: I'm grateful, but I don't think I even got to

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Speaker 3: Remember how because just what you said, you know, to me,

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Speaker 5: Mm And you know, you know it's funny and Rick,

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Speaker 6: As far as smoking and concern, you.

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Speaker 2: Have changed, who can, yes, who can?

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Speaker 3: It's not so much pressure And I feel like I

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Speaker 2: And I'm living now.

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Speaker 3: Is I wish that I would have taken more of

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Speaker 2: Is you know? Because what you're saying is true. I

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Speaker 3: I was just taking care of myself so I could

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Speaker 1: I think the thing is Ricky is that like it

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Speaker 1: Why can't you allow them to smoke marijuana, calmed them down,

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Speaker 1: than this, Why not have a conversation. And I think

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it takes time. So I feel like I was

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Speaker 2: It now, so it feels like it's worth it.

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Speaker 1: But see, Ricked, I don't know, man, you might have

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Speaker 4: If you'd have had that on home, Bro, they had

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Speaker 1: Seahawks rookie DT Fyron Murphy the second took his teammates

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Speaker 4: It was thirty eight thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: O Joe, did y'all ever prank the rooks?

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Speaker 2: Listen?

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Speaker 7: I had.

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Speaker 5: I mean as when I was a veteran, I didn't.

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Speaker 5: I didn't make the rookies do do rookie night.

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Speaker 5: It was a little hefty for thirty eight thousand. Thinking

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Speaker 2: But it'd be expensive.

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Speaker 1: Well, you start ordering, you start ordering that King lou

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Speaker 1: you get the lobster. You know, they bring the lobster

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Speaker 1: I know, y'all seen it. They bring the lobster round

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: He thinks he's going for a ride. Little know.

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Speaker 1: Hey, hey, they don't be playing, boy, they don't be

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Speaker 1: playing look uh Porters and actually lit Lee their rookie

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Speaker 4: We hit them for about twenty two thousand.

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Speaker 1: You know, me, I had to have a little I

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Speaker 1: because they're gonna go other places. I had a relationship,

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Speaker 1: y'all not gonna get me broken up in the middle

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Speaker 1: my limitations. I ain't fooling with y'all. Same thing I

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Speaker 1: tell my homeboys when they come, you know, ay, Searp,

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Speaker 1: come on, let's go out. No bro, no no, no,

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Speaker 1: and leave right No, absolutely not. I get some of

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Speaker 1: Hey my homeboys in town, man, Sep. You know we

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Speaker 6: Hey, right there you go. You're good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. But other than that or yo, yeah.

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Speaker 5: Now listen, if you're a rookie and you're now you

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Speaker 1: Oh we wrecky because of growth coming because I got

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Speaker 1: I wasn't going out with them, oh yall, I wasn't

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Speaker 1: that was gonna take me back because I would hey, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 4: It was probably like one hundred dollars an hour. It

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Speaker 1: But uh, the only thing I made sure of, O yo,

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Speaker 1: I don't care if anything. You're not getting stuff. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna no no, no, no no. We're not

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Speaker 2: Us US US US.

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Speaker 4: So that was. That was like twenty two thousand.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know we you know the guy order

440
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Speaker 1: King Lord, that order, you know, like a fifteenth protruce by.

441
00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,399
Speaker 4: You know, Wine or roth Child whatever it was.

442
00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,720
Speaker 1: They get a couple of bottles that I said, bro y'all,

443
00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:10,879
Speaker 1: and you know they gotta get they gotta get the

444
00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,680
Speaker 1: most expensive steak. They gotta get the lobster, they gotta

445
00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:18,120
Speaker 1: get the everything. So it it didn't cost the I mean,

446
00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:22,520
Speaker 1: twenty two thousand wasn't that wasn't that much. But oh

447
00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,600
Speaker 1: yeah you're gonna pay. Somebody said, oh I wouldn't pay.

448
00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,040
Speaker 4: Oh yeah you would. Oh we're gonna take it out

449
00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,240
Speaker 4: of check. You gonna pay. We are not going to

450
00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:30,800
Speaker 4: allow you.

451
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Speaker 1: A tradition that's been handed down the first round draft

452
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Speaker 1: pick uh second right now. A lot of time we

453
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,320
Speaker 1: let them, y'all, y'all pull together a lot of times

454
00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,760
Speaker 1: the first round that had to pay. Donner for himself.

455
00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,239
Speaker 1: I remember to hit my brother, but I think they

456
00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:48,600
Speaker 1: hit my brother for like twelve thirteen grand. But the

457
00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,920
Speaker 1: thing is is that you gotta do that. If you're

458
00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,320
Speaker 1: a rookie. You've got to bring donuts, you got to

459
00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,400
Speaker 1: bring breakfast sandwiches, You've got to bring food to the plane.

460
00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:58,080
Speaker 4: I did it.

461
00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,200
Speaker 1: You'll know how many times I'm hus the bustling, I'm

462
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,960
Speaker 1: dressed like Jeff throw modein tie, hang it all up,

463
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:07,159
Speaker 1: paying by.

464
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:07,560
Speaker 4: The fall up.

465
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Speaker 1: Man, Man, don't yo, man o't Joe, cause I gotta go, man,

466
00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:15,879
Speaker 1: did you he won't Kentucky Fried chicken.

467
00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,879
Speaker 4: He won't Popeyes, he won't this. I gotta go all

468
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:19,680
Speaker 4: the pride of place.

469
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Speaker 2: Man.

470
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Speaker 1: Hell no, That's why I was like, I gotta make

471
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Speaker 1: the team. All this they got me doing, I would

472
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Speaker 1: have miss somebody.

473
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 4: Doing this issue me please oh man, hell nah.

474
00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:37,200
Speaker 1: But uh, we did all that rookie singing, Oh Joe,

475
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 1: I wasn't bigger than I went big into the hazen.

476
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,440
Speaker 1: We make rookie sing uh. You know, we might steal

477
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Speaker 1: their car and drive that off or something like that.

478
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,440
Speaker 1: But all that, I ain't cutting nobody hair because the

479
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,400
Speaker 1: ain't nobody cutting my hair because it's really been it's

480
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 1: been cut my hair. There's gonna be a problem. So

481
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 1: we're not gonna do that. And so I would. We

482
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 1: didn't cut anybody here. You know, at Baltimore, we take

483
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Speaker 1: the rookies to the gold Post.

484
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 4: That was Yeah, that was hard.

485
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 2: Put him in the cold to put.

486
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Speaker 1: Him in the coldtel. Yeah, we tapped table him up

487
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:08,679
Speaker 1: and put him in the cold tel. Stuff like that

488
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 1: on yo. But mainly we make him singing not your alma.

489
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear about your fight song. I

490
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:14,400
Speaker 1: don't want to hear about your album.

491
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 4: Model. You gotta sing some Luther Van draws Barry White.

492
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 4: I don't care.

493
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 2: Sing hey whatever, you know the words to.

494
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,400
Speaker 4: Other than your damn fight song.

495
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 1: So uh but yeah, but that was that was a yeah,

496
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Speaker 1: that was back in the day. That was back in Yeah,

497
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 1: we used to steal people cars and stuff like that.

498
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:39,879
Speaker 1: It's funny because the past the time, it's like grown

499
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Speaker 1: men and what we behaved like eight seven to eight

500
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Speaker 1: year old little kids.

501
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

502
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Speaker 7: Uh Alma.

503
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Speaker 1: Rod Saint Brown thinks the NFL should make a rude change.

504
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 1: Let's take a listen to the change he recommends.

505
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Speaker 7: Okay, then will should be changed. You should obviously make

506
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Speaker 7: your playoffs spot.

507
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,199
Speaker 3: But having a fourteen win team having to go on

508
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 3: the road is kind of crazy.

509
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:06,880
Speaker 7: But I guess you know, I don't make the rope.

510
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,160
Speaker 1: So okay, now we're not gonna change the rule because

511
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:11,919
Speaker 1: y'all might lose the game and be a fourteen and win.

512
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 1: A fourteen win team to go on the road. That

513
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,439
Speaker 1: is how we do it, right, It's been like that,

514
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 1: o yo.

515
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 5: So well, listen, they're going to they going to Minnesota, right,

516
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:20,640
Speaker 5: they play Minnesota.

517
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 6: Talk with them, Oh, Minnesota comes to them.

518
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 1: Yes, so they already beat Minnesota on the walk up

519
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:28,120
Speaker 1: they kicked the field goal.

520
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, but what is he complaining about then.

521
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 1: Because they might lose be fourteen to oh and they

522
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Speaker 1: have to start the season on the road.

523
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, listen, that's that's nothing you should even worry about,

524
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,399
Speaker 5: especially that god damn high powered offense. There should be

525
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 5: nothing you worried about whether you're playing home or whether

526
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 5: you're playing home. Of the way, I understand the advantage

527
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 5: that play that teams have playing at home, but mentioning

528
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 5: the way the way y'all rock and offensively right now,

529
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 5: I wouldn't care if we was playing in the Sahara

530
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,439
Speaker 5: Desert as long as Dan cambell is my coach, and

531
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Speaker 5: he got that wheel barrow with him Cajonnas he carried

532
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:02,199
Speaker 5: him every time he's coaching.

533
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 2: I'm not tripping.

534
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:05,199
Speaker 7: I am not tripping.

535
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 4: Yeah he uh.

536
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 1: So, I don't agree. I think we're not both. We

537
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: don't agree because the rules are the rule. We're not

538
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 1: going to change the rule because we have an anomally

539
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 1: how many times the fourteen win team has had to

540
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Speaker 1: start on the road, so so one time it happened.

541
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Speaker 6: In the.

542
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Speaker 1: One hundred plus year history. Now we're gonna make a rule.

543
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: So what Noah, We're not gonna do that.

544
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,400
Speaker 2: It was it was a great suggestion.

545
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, but the team, you know, and and how y'all

546
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,880
Speaker 5: are playing on the road and at home, it really

547
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:40,400
Speaker 5: don't matter.

548
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 4: You know.

549
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Speaker 1: What he's saying, though, o Jo, is that if we

550
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 1: have a better record than a division winner, we should

551
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Speaker 1: be at.

552
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Speaker 4: Home and they should have to go on the road.

553
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 4: They won a division.

554
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 1: That's the reward you get for winning the division is

555
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 1: that you get to play at least one.

556
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Speaker 6: Game at home. Yeah, I see what he's saying.

557
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 1: In the twenty thirteen Combine, Tehran recorded the fastest forty

558
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Speaker 1: for an offensive lineman in Combine history, a record that

559
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: still stands to this day.

560
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 4: It was close.

561
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 1: Lane Johnson ran four seven two, but Toront's record of

562
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 1: four to seven one is close. And if I'm not mistaken,

563
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Speaker 1: they are the only two offensive linemens that's run in

564
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,640
Speaker 1: the four sevens. They've been a couple of runs low

565
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 1: four eights, but no other lineman other than Tehran at

566
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: four seven one Lane Johnson at four seven two have

567
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 1: been in the offensive lineman have been in the four seventh.

568
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:34,360
Speaker 4: So as of yet.

569
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Speaker 1: So now we're thirteen years in counting twenty thirteen to

570
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Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, and Toront still helds that record. Toron, Look,

571
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 1: you're coming out of Arkansas Pine Bluff, and it's not

572
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Speaker 1: like it used to be. There used to be a

573
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 1: plethora of guys coming out of HBCUs and so that

574
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 1: would have been nothing.

575
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 4: But here it is.

576
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Speaker 1: Now we're in the twenty tens and we get an

577
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Speaker 1: offensive linean your three times swack All Conference player, and

578
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 1: you go through the Combine. What were your expectations? Did

579
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,199
Speaker 1: you know you had this kount of ability in you?

580
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, for sure, for sure. I knew I had the

581
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 7: talent and the speed and agility to showcase. I just

582
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 7: had to get to the showcase. So it was really

583
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 7: huge for me to get that Combine invite that was

584
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,120
Speaker 7: that was monumental for me trying to get more exposure,

585
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 7: to get more eyes to my tape. So I knew

586
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Speaker 7: that I was going to go. I was going for

587
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 7: the record for sure, Like before I even before we

588
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 7: got to Indy, I was going for the record. I

589
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 7: wanted to run faster honestly than that. But I'll take

590
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 7: the four seven.

591
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 4: Four three on five. That's moving now.

592
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 6: Listen that's what I would get ready to ask you.

593
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 4: I would get to ask you how.

594
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 5: Tall you were and how much you weighed to be

595
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 5: able to run that. Listen, I ain't running but four

596
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,120
Speaker 5: five so technically, but you right there with.

597
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 7: Me, right there on your neck. Yeah, I was six

598
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 7: six five, three oh six, I believe three or four

599
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 7: at the combine.

600
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Speaker 1: Wow, so you knew, you knew? So what was if

601
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 1: I'm not, I don't know what the record was? What

602
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 1: was the record? What was the fastest forty time for

603
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman before you broke it? It was four

604
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: a four, four a four. While you didn't break it,

605
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 1: you're obliterated.

606
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,479
Speaker 7: It needed it. I needed it. I needed all that.

607
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 7: I needed that that my moment.

608
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 4: I was on.

609
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 7: NFL network dot com, NFL dot com for like two hours.

610
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 7: I needed all of it. So the scouts can go

611
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 7: watch my film.

612
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 1: Okay, So now you go run that forty yard dash type.

613
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 1: You run four seven one, and that's really the order.

614
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 1: Yeah they want you to jump high, Yeah they want

615
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: you to do too, but speed is what captivates their attention.

616
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,360
Speaker 1: Now you're an offensive lineman. You never gonna be able

617
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,959
Speaker 1: to unwind that four seven one again but you just

618
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: wanted to put that on tape to let them see,

619
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: look you got a phenomenal athlete. Yes, I went to

620
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: Arkansas Pine Bluff. Yeah, I know you're gonna downgrade me

621
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 1: talking about who did I blog and who did I

622
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 1: play against? But I'm gonna come and showcase my skills

623
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: and let you see and then the chips fall where

624
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: they may. So when you ran that time, did you know, like, okay,

625
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: I got their undivided attention.

626
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 4: I'm about to get drafted.

627
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, no, for sure. We have special talents down

628
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 7: there in these HBCUs all across the country. We do.

629
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 7: So I just needed the opportunity to showcase my skill.

630
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 7: I knew what time it was. I was going for

631
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 7: the vertical record too. I missed that by half an inch,

632
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 7: so like I knew that I was going to be

633
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 7: able to make that splash. And like I say again,

634
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 7: I needed it. I really needed that chance to get

635
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 7: all the scouts just to watch my film. I wouldn't

636
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 7: ask you for no favorites, but just check out the

637
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 7: film and see the dominance.

638
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 6: Yeah.

639
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 5: Now, also when I look at the officer line position,

640
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 5: as fast as you were, you know, as far as

641
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 5: running the forty. Did you have an advantage as far

642
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 5: as your footwork goes when it came to playing offensive

643
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 5: line as well, because most of the time, obviously, you know,

644
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 5: playing officer line is all about your hand placement and

645
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 5: your footwork, you know what, we always being being balanced

646
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 5: for sure.

647
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 6: Did that give you the advantage?

648
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 4: Yeah?

649
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 7: No. My letter says to my agility that those were

650
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 7: my strengths when I played throughout my twelve year career

651
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 7: because I put six or five three ERD before. Not

652
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 7: the biggest tackle, not not necessarily the strongest either, but

653
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 7: I'm on your ass soon as the boss, you know

654
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 7: what I mean, A lot of a lot of jump sets.

655
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 7: I had to use that in my game, so, uh,

656
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 7: finding ways to play in my strength and I was

657
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 7: using my speed.

658
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 4: Were you always an offensive lineman cuts out?

659
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: I mean, with that kind of fast twitch, you might

660
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: have been a you might have been a tight end

661
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: at some point in time in your career.

662
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 4: Were you always an offensive lineman?

663
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 7: Well, back in my hometown Cooki, Illinois, we were no

664
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,239
Speaker 7: off of speed. That's what we do. We run, So

665
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 7: I was a defensive lineman off of lima. But I

666
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 7: would to go play seven on seven with the guys

667
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 7: corner safety receiving. Really yeah, it really was like that,

668
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 7: really like that. I can't do that shit no more.

669
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 7: But I can't move like that no MOREL took.

670
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 4: You mentioned you see, so you were thirty four, thirty

671
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 4: four right.

672
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: Now thirty five thirty three, thirty three run you walk

673
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: away from the game.

674
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 4: You're only thirty three. Lineman normally played in in at

675
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 4: thirty six, thirty seven, thirty eight. We saw Jackie Slater

676
00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 4: play twenty years.

677
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, he retired at forty plus, and we see Lineman especially.

678
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: I don't know your injury history. That's why, that's why

679
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: I'm going with this. Why walk away from the game

680
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: and all that chap out there? You see that money,

681
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: fact it is it's a lot of freshly printed money

682
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: out there, for.

683
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 4: Sure, it is.

684
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 7: Yes, indeed, I got a man, God bless me with

685
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 7: so many great moments and great years and a great career.

686
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 7: My injury history is extensive, it is, Yes, it is long,

687
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 7: and I've been through it. And that's really the part

688
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 7: for me is my body. You know, I love this game.

689
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 7: I mentally, cerebrally, I can play the game forever, you know,

690
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 7: But it's just physically and I'm and I'm okay with

691
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 7: saying that that that my body is slowing down its

692
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 7: movements and abilities, that I just can't perform at the

693
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 7: same level. And I take so much pride in my film. Yeah, man,

694
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 7: it has to look a certain way, Like every time

695
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 7: I step on the field, that has to look pro bawl,

696
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 7: all pro like. That's stuff. That's the brand I wanted

697
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 7: to leave. So that's just I never want to look

698
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 7: like I'm out there getting my getting whooped on. That

699
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 7: ain't that can't.

700
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 2: Happen, you know what.

701
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 6: It takes a lot.

702
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 5: It takes a lot of awareness, self awareness at that

703
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 5: for a player of your caliber, or any player that's

704
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 5: played in the NFL that's played at a high level,

705
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 5: to understand when it's time to call the quits. Most

706
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,959
Speaker 5: of the time we'd ride up, ride the car to

707
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 5: the wheels fall off, you know, with no regard for

708
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 5: you know what, I don't look the same.

709
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 6: At what moment did you realize that, you.

710
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 5: Know what, I really don't have it to play at

711
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 5: all pro or Pro Bowl level anymore.

712
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 6: But what moment did it hit you?

713
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, I've been dealing with a knee since my third

714
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 7: year in the league, but it's been with me from

715
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 7: for my entire career. So man, just I'll speak on

716
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 7: this year alone. I didn't see a practice field like

717
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 7: at all, and not because I didn't want to or

718
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 7: the Dolphins just wanted me to rest. It's like I

719
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 7: literally couldn't walk, you know, I couldn't after a game

720
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 7: on Sunday. I wouldn't be able to walk on my own,

721
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 7: you know, under my own power until Wednesday, Thursday. So

722
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 7: I was only able to play under under under the

723
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 7: pain is. I couldn't put any pressure on my knee.

724
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 7: So it was like I can't keep doing that to myself. Man.

725
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 7: We uh it comes down to.

726
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: Thirty three and you now you get to be forty

727
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you're like, man, what my

728
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: liver shutting down? My kid is and all the other

729
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: things from taking those pain medicines. Because I know I've

730
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: seen I've seen linemen have to take vikinging. Just the practice,

731
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: I get. I get the game. I get the game,

732
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: I really do, because you know, a that's once a week,

733
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: but the practice.

734
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 7: Oh hell yeah, yeah no, that's crazy, and that's what

735
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 7: that was the norm. For sure. I didn't. I didn't

736
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 7: want to fall in that cycle, right.

737
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: But the thing is, Aszocho was saying, it takes a

738
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: space because to the to the lay person, they don't

739
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: they don't, they don't, they don't really see what you know.

740
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: And the thing is is that when you it's kind

741
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: of hard to let go and not practice because as

742
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman sets for everything, whether you're gonna jump,

743
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: say where you ate, and the thing is, you got

744
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: to practice that during the course of a week. It's

745
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: hard or an offensive lineman to just go out there

746
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: on a Sunday jump said quick said, hey stab whatever

747
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: the case may be, and just to go and you

748
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: going against the best of the best.

749
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 7: You you said it, you said it. It's the reps

750
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 7: is especially for officeive line player. We yeah, so based

751
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 7: on technique and uh tim and and all the hand

752
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 7: placement and not not to mention the cohesiveness of everyone,

753
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 7: because you know, we're the only unit that never comes

754
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 7: off the field outside of the quarterback that's one person,

755
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 7: but we're the only unit that never comes off the field.

756
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 7: So that chemistry and time and it just is really

757
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 7: tough not getting those practice reps and then preparing mentally

758
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 7: for Max Crosby and Miles Garrett and like that's not okay.

759
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 4: You got with TJ. Watt.

760
00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 7: I'm not about to keep doing that man with no practice.

761
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: Like on man, because like you said, you talk about

762
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: your offense Tehran, you talk about your te excuse me,

763
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: you talk about your offensive lineman, and like, okay, they

764
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: get somebody else in there to practice it. But you

765
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: and that left guard, y'all need to be cohesive. Yeah,

766
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: need to like be on the same level and pass

767
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: it off. Because if you're on different levels, a guy

768
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,399
Speaker 1: go hit that crack and now everybody's like, man, y'all

769
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 1: hate judging, but see, you might be a little slow,

770
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: he might have been a little fast, and all of

771
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,280
Speaker 1: a sudden you give up a sack when y'all should

772
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: have had that situation covered. I know, I look and

773
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: everybody doesn't do it the same because I remember practicing

774
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: with Gary Zimmerman, who the Who's the two decade All

775
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: Decade player in the eighties and the nineties.

776
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 4: He went to the Hall of Fame, but he didn't

777
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 4: like me. He didn't like me the chip block. He

778
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 4: didn't like the chip He like, don't touch it.

779
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, he said, if I, if I jumped said it,

780
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: and you hit him, You're gonna knock him inside, and

781
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: now I can't get him, and everybody go think I

782
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: got beat so don't touch it.

783
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a real thing, especially especially if you have

784
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 7: a big physical tight end like like yourself. So like

785
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 7: you hitting him too hard. He getting momentum, he getting

786
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 7: like a joke to the inside move you know what.

787
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 7: I got him to get out the way, go get.

788
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: Over Jonathan ja O. Now I played with j O

789
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: Jonathan Augda. Who's the first Battle of Hall of Famer.

790
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: He like, hey, knock him, knock him out if you

791
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: can't for me, independent on who it is man who exactly,

792
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: But like you said, certain offensive linemen they want some

793
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 1: I mean, hey, stick and stay or some guys like

794
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 1: don't touch him. But like you said, that practice like

795
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: for an offensive lineman and seeing like like I said,

796
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: I've worked with Zam for like four years, work with

797
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: Jao for two years, and to see what they go

798
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: through because they're working on this sets, they ay they're kicking.

799
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: Am I gonna stab him? Am I gonna quick sit him?

800
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 1: Am I gonna jump set him? What am I gonna do?

801
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: And not in the game, man, I want to jump set,

802
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: but that need bother you.

803
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 7: I can't.

804
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: I can't, I can't see. I can't do what I want.

805
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: The mind say do that that, body say, brother.

806
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 4: You do that?

807
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 7: Say you can't do that. No, you can't do it

808
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 7: no more.

809
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 2: Hey.

810
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 5: When it came to playing a left tackle position, I

811
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 5: think about my approach to playing receiver when it came

812
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 5: to DB's and studying each DV every week and understanding

813
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 5: what type of dB I'm going against. You got some

814
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 5: that are quick, some of that fast, some of the physical,

815
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 5: some of that you know, playoff or whatever may be.

816
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 6: What was your approach when it came to playing defensive

817
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 6: ends each week?

818
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 5: It was was your Was your approach different as far

819
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 5: as from from a technical standpoint? Do you change up

820
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 5: things you did depending on who you were playing that weeks?

821
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 7: I've always said, show that it's a lot of parallels

822
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 7: to me, a lot of similarities between O line tackling,

823
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 7: tackling d N and receiver in corner like that that

824
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 7: one on one match up. It's a lot of dynamics

825
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 7: there that that's parallel to me. The technique that goes

826
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 7: into it, tendencies. Like you said, is he pressing. If

827
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,439
Speaker 7: I jab inside, what are you doing with his hands?

828
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 7: Same thing as I'm bringing the D defensive end. I'm

829
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 7: looking at their alignment first how wide is he getting?

830
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 7: And then it's get off you know, how well is

831
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 7: he time in the snap? Then I want to see

832
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 7: his home runs. What's what's his go to move that

833
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 7: he's consistently winning on. What's he's winning on the most?

834
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 7: I break that down. That's the one I want to

835
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 7: take away. I want to take that one away, and

836
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 7: then all right, what's his second highest percentage move the count.

837
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 7: I'm taking those top two away throughout my career. That

838
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 7: was the goal, my objective of game planning. I want

839
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 7: to take them top two winners away. If you beat

840
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 7: me with a third, you you you're a bad man,

841
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 7: but you you're gonna have to get that. But for me,

842
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,959
Speaker 7: I was taking those top two, top two moves away.

843
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 5: And one of the things that I've always likes to

844
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 5: ask players that once they're done playing, who gave them

845
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 5: the most fits?

846
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 7: For me?

847
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,439
Speaker 5: And everybody asked me all the time, Listen, you played

848
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 5: a very long time. You're going against them. I've always

849
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,760
Speaker 5: had to deal with the number one dB and everyone asked,

850
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 5: you know who gave you fits? And obviously the one

851
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 5: person that say every time, yeah hell locked everybody else but.

852
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: Super strong about nobody else. But you you see how

853
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: you did that.

854
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,959
Speaker 4: He listen.

855
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 6: He gave you fits, so you just want to give

856
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 6: them their flowers.

857
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 7: You know, man, I had some battles. I had some

858
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 7: of these guys I say too many times like I didn't.

859
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,280
Speaker 7: I didn't want to have these.

860
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 4: Rivalry going on.

861
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 7: But you know that's how the schedule to go. I played.

862
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 7: Miles a Ton was always one of those. He's one

863
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 7: of those you got to make sure you breakfast like.

864
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 7: He's one of those for sure. But the guy that

865
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 7: gave me the most fits, and I've probably seen him

866
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 7: the most and he is still underrated in my eyes.

867
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 7: Robert Quinn, Robert that first table Quinn, he's been in

868
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 7: that edge. He listened, Robert Quinn, he got He probably

869
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 7: got the most sack on me, like out of everybody's

870
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 7: He's the person that say I got to on t

871
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 7: Stad like. He he probably that one person that can

872
00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 7: say that, right, Okay, that dude game he Yeah, they

873
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 7: want to see him post career. I don't want to

874
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 7: see him. We can't be friends nothing. I don't want

875
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 7: to run into the robber corny.

876
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: It's really it's really like a dance because like they said,

877
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: they getting that white, they're getting that what they're getting

878
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: to that whe nine And now hey, you're like, Okay,

879
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: I know he's gonna come wide, but what if he

880
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: dropping bull me?

881
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,240
Speaker 4: Okay, now he gonna hit.

882
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: Me, and then he's been inside, So I got I

883
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: got all that going into I gotta look at him.

884
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 4: Okay, what is he doing?

885
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 6: Now?

886
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: I'm kicking. I can only kick so far because the

887
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 1: damn cornerback right there. Help I keep kicking. I'm gonna

888
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: be in this damn loud so I can all again

889
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: probably like to kicks.

890
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 4: See and then I got.

891
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: To say it and I gotta take Hey, I gotta

892
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:43,919
Speaker 1: be I don't want him to get it. I don't

893
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: want him to bend the edge on me because like

894
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: you said, Miles can being but also I also don't

895
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: want him to wax on, wax off, been crossed my face.

896
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 4: All that.

897
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 7: We're trying to process all that, man, and they lined

898
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 7: it up in his wide nine. And these athletes are

899
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,919
Speaker 7: only getting only getting bigger, faster, stronger, So it's man,

900
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 7: it's it's it's tough to deal with. Like Michaeh playing

901
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 7: Michael Parsons for the first time. It was Christmas Day.

902
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 7: We in Miami, Beautiful day. We smacked the cowboys that

903
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 7: ain't part of the story. But seeing Michael Parsons for

904
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 7: the first time in real life.

905
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 4: It was different.

906
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 7: Bro, Like you are You're way too big to be

907
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 7: moving as fast. It can be that well, like, yeah,

908
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 7: it's just the athlete. The evolution of the athlete is

909
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 7: just it's becoming something something different.

910
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 4: Man.

911
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 7: Cool, I'm cool, y'all.

912
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: Especially watching, you know, playing against Derreck Thomas. But the

913
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: guy that I had the most respect for, I only

914
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 1: played Agains him for two years because I was in

915
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 1: Baltimore two years. I've never seen a guy his size

916
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:46,720
Speaker 1: that quick.

917
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 7: M m the freak man freak.

918
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: The first time I played it, yeah, man, hey, I

919
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: turned amut saying, hey, y'all better throw it.

920
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,280
Speaker 7: He would gone look out blocked, dude.

921
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: He took a step down because I had to step

922
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: so I stepped with him. Man, When by the time

923
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: I put my foot down, he was on my shoulder.

924
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: He gets to your he get to your shoulder and

925
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: you ain't extended. You might wo kiss the baby.

926
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 4: Hey you you saw the picture.

927
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 5: I was I just saw Javon cursing the airport leaving

928
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 5: Philly day before yesterday.

929
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 4: Oh did you yeah?

930
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 3: Man?

931
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 1: Oh he got that before he heard the ankles. Oh Joe, dude,

932
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: was I'm talking about you talking about somebody like he

933
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: was like.

934
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 4: Six four two fifty.

935
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,800
Speaker 1: I'm talking about all I'm talking about five X gloves.

936
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 4: I mean his hands were like a ketcher.

937
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 7: Man. Did did Kurse get in there? Did he get

938
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 7: into the hall?

939
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 4: Nah?

940
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:49,479
Speaker 6: Nah?

941
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 2: Nah?

942
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 4: He uh he would?

943
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: I mean tense. He was at Tennessee, his best us

944
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: at Tennessee. He moved to Philly and then he had

945
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: he messed up his ankle, he messed up his years.

946
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: But hey, back in the day, you know, dealing with

947
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: DT Bruce Smith was fast too. Bruce could be in

948
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: For a guy his size. Normally guys to seventy they

949
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,760
Speaker 1: can't be in like that. Bruce be parallel to the ground.

950
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: That movement you see Jared that you see a von

951
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: Miller do where he dip under and come down on

952
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: one hand and get back up.

953
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 4: Bruce could do that at two seventy.

954
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 2: That's it.

955
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 4: So hey, that's why you guys make the big bucks.

956
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: That's why you guys high paid on the offensive line,

957
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: because you guys got the toughest assignment because you're dealing

958
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 1: with Like I said, basically, it's like Ginger Robins and Fredistering.

959
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: He's coming forward, but you got a mirror what he

960
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: does moving backwards. And the thing is, you got a

961
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 1: target that's sitting right there, whether and basically everybody in

962
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: the shotgun now, so you can only set so far

963
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: before he sits ass in the quarterback lap.

964
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 7: Or you reach over the top of you and listen, Yo,

965
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,399
Speaker 7: we need some more money, man, oh lord, we need

966
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 7: some more. We need some more that money.

967
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 2: We need