1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: This is Ben and actually I almost famous in depth. 2 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. This is an in depth episode. 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: If you've never heard an in depth before. This is 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: something Actuley and I started a few years ago, taking 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: fan favorites, people that were intrigued by and just digging 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 1: into their life. The Bachelor obviously come up because it's 7 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 1: a part of your life, but we really want to 8 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: learn about you. So thanks for doing this with us. 9 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, thank you all for having me. I love 10 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 1: it because I think, you know, you see these people 11 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: from the show on on TV, and you only know 12 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: so much from the little snippets that you see, and 13 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: I think there is a lot kind of behind the 14 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: scenes that you don't really get to know about um 15 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: various contestants. So I think it's cool to kind of 16 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: be able to talk more to that. Thank you. That 17 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: was the whole point of the content. Yeah, I love it. 18 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: I love it. Could you imagine if we did an 19 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: in depth episode with everybody, every contestant before the show started? Man, 20 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: we should and ABC should pay for us to do that. 21 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: That'd be awesome. That'd be really good. Um, it's why 22 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: they did well. Hey, Connor, let's kick it off with 23 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: this tell us about your childhood. We're both from the Midwest, 24 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: pretty close to each other. You're from Michigan and from Indiana. 25 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: What kind of childhood you have, Yeah, good old midwesterners. Um. Yeah, 26 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: so from Birmingham, Michigan. Initially. UM, I was the youngest 27 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: of four kids. So I feel like I always, um 28 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: kind of like looked up to my siblings, And I 29 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: think that's part of the reason I'm a bit quieter 30 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: and more reserved of a person, just because I feel 31 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: like I looked up to my siblings and they would 32 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: not necessarily speak for me when I was younger, but 33 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:38,199 Speaker 1: would kind of just like follow their lead, UM versus 34 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: be like the crazy sibling. So I think that kind 35 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: of contributed a lot to like who I am now. UM. 36 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, all my siblings like did 37 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: very different things throughout their lives, and I'm kind of 38 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: like a mesh of all of them, which I think 39 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: is it's really cool. But UM had amazing parents. They've 40 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: been married for almost forty years now, UM, so they 41 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: were a great influence on me, and UM, you know 42 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: kind of like what I'm looking for in a relationship 43 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: and a partner. UM, So you know, really just like 44 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: a great, great family, a lot of fun growing up 45 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: in Michigan, but it was pretty pretty cold and chili 46 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: up there, because I'm sure you know from being from Indiana, 47 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: and that's why I ended up moving down to Texas. 48 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: When did you move down to Texas? Um? So, I 49 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: went to SMU for college, So just whenever I went 50 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: to to college eighteen and then ended up working in 51 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: Dallas for a couple of years after and then um, 52 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,399 Speaker 1: I found myself on The Bachelor. A former Warsaw High 53 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: School Tiger played basketball at SMU probably the same time 54 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: you were there, Nick Moore, he's in a legend. Oh yeah, 55 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: yeah he was. He was a point guard, right, he 56 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 1: was the point guard. Yeah, all conference. He played high 57 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: school basketball, same place. Yeah, that that was a pretty 58 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: exciting time at SMU because Larry Brown was the coach 59 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 1: and um the program got really really good and it 60 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:05,399 Speaker 1: got to the point where you had to camp out 61 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: for tickets and stuff, which it was like a cool 62 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 1: environment to be around around campus. So that was that 63 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: was a really neat time. You had a couple of proms. 64 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: Speaking of sports, you were a college swimmer. Yeah, so 65 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: I swim in high school. Um, my brother swim in 66 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: college at Duke, and like swimming was always a big 67 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: part of our family growing up. Basically started swimming I 68 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 1: was three years old, and when I went to college 69 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: it was kind of over it, just because swimming is 70 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: such a demanding sport and why do they make you 71 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: wake up so early for something. I still laugh myself 72 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: that today, but it's just like, well, fortunately, in high 73 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: school are high school is one of the only schools, 74 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: I want to say, in the country. We did not 75 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: have morning practices, so we would just have one three 76 00:03:55,680 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: hour practice at night. At my school, they were swimmers, 77 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: they had to be at the pool, like at the 78 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: pool at five am. Yeah, it's it's ridiculous. I don't 79 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: as like, as a high school student, I don't know 80 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: how one even could do that. No, that just sounds miserable. 81 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: I was sleeping all the time because I was growing 82 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: in high school, so you're just tired, and so like, 83 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: what did you go to bed at eight o'clock? Which 84 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: I'm not against now, but in high school, I'm not 85 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: trying to go to bed at eight o'clock. I know, 86 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 1: I don't even know how you'll be able to function 87 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 1: throughout the day in school, let alone, Like, I can't 88 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: even imagine swimming laps at five am. It would just 89 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: be like I'd just be like a robot. So did 90 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 1: you end up swimming in college? Yeah? So, so when 91 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 1: I graduated high school or I guess when. When I 92 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: was looking at colleges, I had been talking to some 93 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: schools about swimming there, but ultimately I just like didn't. 94 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: It was kind of over it, um because it's just 95 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: like such a demanding sport and it had been part 96 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: of my life for eighteen years basically. Um. But when 97 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: I did get to college, I had made friends with 98 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: some of the swimmers and I just really missed it. 99 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 1: And I think what I missed more was the competition 100 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: versus the actual sport. And I still love the sport 101 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: of watching it and everything, but I like I just 102 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: missed like competing with people. And I ended up. Um. 103 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,119 Speaker 1: I talked to the coach and he was like, yeah, come, 104 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: you know, come like try it out if if it 105 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: works out, like, we'd love to have you on the team. 106 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: Try it out for a little bit. And they ended 107 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: up having me on the team and I did it 108 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: for like a year and a half, um, And it 109 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: was a Division one team. So it was a really good, 110 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: good swimming school to be a part of UM. But I, 111 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: you know, I kind of just had that realization of like, Okay, 112 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 1: I think I just like the competition more than the 113 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: actual sport. Let me see if I can take that 114 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: competitive side of myself and put it towards something else, 115 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: like a you know, like a job or whatever. That was. Yeah, well, 116 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about your jobs here coming up intil 117 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: a second, because you have an impressive resume if this 118 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: was an interview for a job, but you also up 119 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: to some new projects now. But let's kind of frame 120 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: this season of your life then up until college. Talk 121 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 1: about you in relationships? Were you, uh, did you date 122 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: a lot? Did you have a long term girlfriend or 123 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,119 Speaker 1: you know, were you just focused on the sports and 124 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: kind of the social life. Yeah? No. In high school, 125 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:24,799 Speaker 1: I was like the hopeless romantic guy for sure. Loved relationships, 126 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: loved dating UM, loved like Nicholas Sparks movies and all 127 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 1: that stuff, like the I really believe in like the 128 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: fairy tale, you know, And I think a part of that. 129 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: And I will say my sister was a big Bachelor 130 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: fan growing up, and she's four years older than me, 131 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: and um, she would always watch it, and I feel 132 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: like the show used to be more of like a 133 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: fairy tale type situation, Like I don't know, to me 134 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: when I would watch it with her, I actually really 135 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: believed it. Um not that it's fake or anything. Maybe 136 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 1: I don't know, but um like I remember watching year 137 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: season then and I was like, Wow, you know this, 138 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: it's like a cool dude, you know, finding like a woman. 139 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: This is amazing, and um like I just like really 140 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: believed it. And I feel like that kind of contributed, 141 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: just like the whole fairy tale thing that I was 142 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: looking for. He used to play cheesy, soft rock songs 143 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: during the proposal and then they would like end with 144 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: this amazing montage that was like so Disney. It was 145 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: more romantic. The show changed. We've talked about it. The 146 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: show has changed. I mean I could even look back 147 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: on my time there and there was nothing about that 148 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: experience that was not very real for me. I mean, 149 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: I'll see you today and say, like, there's nothing about 150 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: that that I mean, even if you know, since it 151 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: didn't work out, but like the growth from it, the experiences, 152 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: like the tears within it, the emotions within it, it 153 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: was very real for me. I wonder if somebody today 154 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: would say the same thing. I don't know, Yeah, I 155 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: don't know. And it's funny. Um there's actually a moment 156 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: in the episode of this past week when I was 157 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: watching it, whatever music they played with like the girls 158 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: walking into the nighttime part of the date, I was like, 159 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: is this is this love Island? I don't know if 160 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: you know what part I'm talking about, but I like, 161 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: I literally said that because it just looked like that, 162 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: and um, I don't know, I feel like it has 163 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: changed it. But yeah, And in high school, I was 164 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: always just like very kind of the hopeless, romantic, fairytale 165 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: type guy had to like longer term girlfriends or over 166 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: a year. And um, one one went into when I 167 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 1: was in college, so it was my senior year of 168 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: high school and then into college, and then the other 169 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 1: one was my whole junior year of high school. So 170 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: and honestly, it's it's interesting because those were the last 171 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: two relationships I had and then didn't date anyone the 172 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: rest of college, so sophomore year through senior year, and 173 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: then didn't date anyone for two years after college, and 174 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: then I went on the Bachelorette. So it was just 175 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: like an interesting time. I feel like after those relationships, 176 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: I kind of just had like maybe an idea of 177 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: what I was looking for, like that feeling that I 178 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: was looking for with someone, and I just never really 179 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: found it. Did you do you feel like you you 180 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: manifested then this bachelorette experience, Like was this something coming 181 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: out of college and being single that you thought because 182 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: of your you know, your time watching it, your respect 183 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: for the show, that you were like, I want to 184 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: do this. Uh no, no, no, I definitely didn't like 185 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: work worker towards being on the Bachelor. But um, I 186 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: think that kind of just happened from like the point 187 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: I was at in my life and you know, I 188 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: was I was like twenty four at the time, single. Um, 189 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: you know, I was like trying to do some cool 190 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: stuff and I I felt like the thing that was 191 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: always missing for me was just someone to do that 192 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: stuff with and just like that that other person in 193 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 1: your life and I had never really found that. And obviously, 194 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: like going the Batch was a bit, you know, not 195 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: thinking that like a bit of an extreme situation to 196 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: go to to to have to find somebody. Um, although 197 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 1: it does work, out for for a lot of people 198 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 1: like you actually, but um, I just thought it was 199 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: like a really cool opportunity. And it's funny because there's, uh, 200 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: you know, I used to watch the show when I 201 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,839 Speaker 1: was younger in high school with my sister she went 202 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: to college, and then I would watch it with this 203 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: group of friends that I had at home, and when 204 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: we were younger, it was always a joke because I 205 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: was that like fairy tale you know person, and they 206 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: all knew that, like I loved, loved that stuff. And 207 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: they're like, Connor, when you're you know, like and single, 208 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: like we're gonna like, we're gonna nominate you to be 209 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: on the show. And um, I remember I was, you know, 210 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 1: like finally twenty four. In the group chat I have 211 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: with my friends, they were like, all right, you know, 212 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: like I think this is this is the year for you, Connor, 213 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: and they actually sent him like a nomination for me, 214 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: and then it kind of led to that. So it's 215 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: just funny how the whole thing kind of came full 216 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: circle from you know, being younger to actually finding myself 217 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: on it. That's awesome. I feel like our stories are 218 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: very similar since I was also that like dreamy romantic 219 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: and we always joked about it too, and it was like, well, 220 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: I guess this is the time. We're just gonna go 221 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 1: for it. What happens. But meanwhile, you were working at 222 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: Goldman Sacks and listen, I don't know a lot about 223 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: finance and stuff, but I know when you dropped the 224 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: name Goldman Sacks and it means like you're doing something right. 225 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: So what was your job before the show? So I 226 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: was there's kind of like a secretive group within Goldman 227 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: called the Special Situations Group. And so obviously you have 228 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 1: like investment banking, that's the one a lot of people know, um, 229 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: but with in the firm or even a little deeper, 230 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: it's the Special Situations Group, and we would actually invest 231 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: Goldman's money into essentially like startups and middle market companies. UM. 232 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: So it was like a really cool group to be in. 233 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: And they have an office in Dallas and New York, 234 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: and you know, the office in New York is just 235 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: full of like Harvard M. I. T. Pen, like all 236 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: these incredibly smart people. And then they have this little 237 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: Dallas office which does the same exact thing, part of 238 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 1: that same group. UM. But it's all like S M 239 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: U U T TCU. So it was like such a 240 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: unique and cool opportunity to essentially be in like one 241 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: of the better groups within the firm at Goldman Um 242 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: and just be surrounded by like all these cool people 243 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: from Harvard to m I T and then like you know, 244 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: have a little Dallas outpost of all the s m 245 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 1: U TCU people. Uh So it's a really really unique 246 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: and cool spot to be. I think the thing for 247 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: me is I had always like grown up and gone 248 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: through college thinking that I really wanted to do finance 249 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: and my dad used to do finance. My oldest brother 250 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 1: he does a lot of stuff with investing in finance. 251 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: My other brother did a lot of stuff within finance, 252 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: and so going through college, I was like, this is 253 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: this is what I need to do, like to be successful. 254 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: And that was like really heavily pushed to SMU, and 255 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: finally when I got there, got into the job, I 256 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: think it was maybe threte months into the job, I 257 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: was like, I I hate this. This is like the worst, 258 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: this is like the worst thing ever. And I don't 259 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: know what it was or like what specifically it was 260 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: with the job. I think I just really didn't enjoy 261 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 1: it and it was really frustrating. And I think a 262 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: lot of people go through this when they graduate colleges. 263 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: You go into this career and you're super excited to 264 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: get there. You finally get there and it's not all 265 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: what you thought it was gonna be. And it takes 266 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: a lot of like soul searching, or at least it 267 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: did for me to figure out, Okay, what what do 268 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: I really want to do? You know? Um, I basically 269 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: spent four years of my life trying to work towards 270 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: this career, and now it's not what I want to do, 271 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: Like how can I pivot and really get into something 272 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:11,439 Speaker 1: I want to do here? And that kind of started 273 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: like the more entrepreneurial journey for me. Um, I just 274 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: reached the point within the job where I got so 275 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: frustrated and waking up every day it was just in 276 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: a way like miserable. I was just so unmotivated to 277 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: go to work and and do that job. And it 278 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: wasn't because of the people or anything. There were great 279 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: people that worked. There was just that I wasn't excited 280 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: about it. And um, I ended up meeting some great 281 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: people in my life that kind of like mentored me 282 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: and helped lead me in the right path of like 283 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: inspiring me, I guess with stuff that they had done 284 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: within starting a business and and all that, and it 285 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: really just inspired me to kind of take action myself 286 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: and like fully just just go for it. And it's 287 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: funny because all this stuff kind of happened around the 288 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: same time. Like, I uh, when I realized I wanted 289 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: to leave Goldman, I didn't know what I wanted to do. 290 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: I just knew that like I wanted to maybe start 291 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: a business, didn't know what it was, but had the 292 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: right people around me in order to make that happen. 293 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: And the week after I quit is when I got 294 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: a call from The Bachelor, um asking, you know, saying 295 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: that I had been nominated, asking me if I wanted 296 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: to kind of like go through that process. And so 297 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: it was just like really bizarre how all these different 298 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: pieces started to fall into place in my life. And 299 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: I think, to me, it was kind of like the 300 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: second I started to almost take action, um and instead 301 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: of like living a passive life is when things started 302 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: to actually like happen for me. So it was kind 303 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: of a cool, cool thing that happened for me. It 304 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: was it was it was the question I was gonna 305 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: ask me, I worked in finance after I was the bachelor. 306 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: So I was. I worked in finance for three years 307 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: the bachelor. That happened because sabbatical, came back, worked for 308 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: another year after I was the bachelor, and then to 309 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: pursue some stuff that I was dreaming of doing. Um, 310 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: and my job would not even be on a scale 311 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: of wonder, It wouldn't be rated compared to having a 312 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: job at Golden Sacks. I in fact probably serviced a 313 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: lot of what you tried to do. So I was 314 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: like the guy in the back end, helping you as 315 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: best I could. Um. But I was nervous to leave 316 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: that job. So I was gonna ask you, were you 317 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: nervous to leave this job to go onto a reality show? 318 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: But I mean it was already set up for you, 319 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: Like it was already kind of like the doors are 320 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: wide open. It sounds like, yeah, Well, I mean I 321 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: think for anyone leaving a job, it's incredibly nerve racking 322 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: and honestly terrifying to do it just because you're stepping 323 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,359 Speaker 1: out of this comfortable situation where you're making a paycheck. 324 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: UM two totally unknown and UM, at that point in 325 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: my life, I just you know, and I hadn't even 326 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: heard of going on the batch or at that point 327 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: too that that kind of happened later on, So it 328 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 1: was really really like an unknown situation. I think it 329 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: was more so like Okay, do I care more about 330 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: my happiness or collecting this paycheck and saying I work 331 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: at Goldman sacks every week, and I think I just 332 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: reached I reached that point. I was like, you know, 333 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: I'm I'm a human. I think humans have a great 334 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: way of when your back is against the wall, you 335 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: figure out a way to make it happen and like 336 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: get stuff done. And I felt like I was just 337 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: too comfortable in my life working at Goldman, getting that 338 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,479 Speaker 1: paycheck every week. You know, things were like, on the 339 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: surface going really well for me, and if if someone 340 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: looked at my LinkedIn or my Instagram, they're like, wow, 341 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 1: you know, this guy's living the life right, But in reality, 342 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: deep down, it just wasn't there for me. And I 343 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: felt I felt like I needed to put myself in 344 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: a very uncomfortable situation in order to grow um and 345 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 1: to me, the only way to actually do that was 346 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: the quit um, go do a little bit of soul search, 347 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: figure out what that business was that I wanted to 348 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: start or what I wanted to do. Maybe I wanted 349 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: to work somewhere else, But I needed to like remove 350 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: myself from that environment where I knew I wasn't happy, 351 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: I wasn't thinking clearly, I wasn't thinking straight. Just remove 352 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: myself from that so I could get more clarity. I guess, 353 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 1: I'm what do I really want to do with my life? 354 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: Do you ever regret it? Though? I mean, looking back now, Connor, 355 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 1: obviously it's a huge risk. Obviously you gave up a 356 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: stable income. You're a few years removed. Now people are listening. 357 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 1: I'm sure there's somebody listening, going, yeah, you know, I'm 358 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 1: thinking about leaving my job. I'm not happy, I'm not fulfilled, 359 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: but I'm scared. Uh what's been in your emotions wrapped 360 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 1: around it since then? Yeah? I I mean at this point, 361 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: I definitely don't regret it. I mean, I'm I'm super 362 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: happy right now. Things are really going well. But there 363 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 1: were moments where, you know, especially during COVID, I think 364 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: that was a tough time for everyone when that first started. Um, 365 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 1: where it's like what am I doing? You know, like 366 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 1: the like this really good job? Um, I had other 367 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: like job opportunities to within the finance space from different 368 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 1: firms that you're trying to like poach people away. And 369 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: I left all of that too, essentially like start a business, 370 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 1: which I did, but like because of COVID and everything, 371 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 1: it wasn't going that well. Um to like go on 372 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: this TV show. Ultimately it was you know, that was 373 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: definitely a big soul searching time for me too. But 374 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: I think looking back on it, the only thing I 375 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 1: would change is I think when I was working at Goldman, 376 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: I think I would have been more thoughtful in trying 377 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: to think through what I wanted to do next. And 378 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: to me, the way to do that is just networking 379 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 1: with people, um and trying different stuff. And I used 380 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 1: to love doing that in college. I did a really 381 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 1: good job at that. I think that's largely the reason 382 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: I ended up working at Goldman to begin with, just 383 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: from like the people I met and talked to and 384 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: just being good at the networking process. But um, I 385 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: seem to like stop doing that when I got to 386 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: the job, and I think it just leads back to 387 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: the comfortability standpoint, and I wish I just would have 388 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: put myself in more uncomfortable situations, trying to meet other people, 389 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: learn what they're doing, um, and see like what am 390 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 1: I really interested in? What do I want to do? 391 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: And I think once I did make the leap to quit, 392 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: I would have maybe had better clarity on what I 393 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: wanted to do next. I think ultimately, because I didn't 394 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: do that, it maybe took a little bit longer for 395 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: me to end up there. Uh, it took a couple 396 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 1: of years or a few years, but I would say now, 397 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: at least in my life, I'm I'm super happy and 398 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: thankful I made that decision. Let's talk about the Bachelorette 399 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: and how you responded to that process. Did you feel like, 400 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: how would you get out of it? Um, that's that's 401 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: a great question. I feel like, you know I was. 402 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: I'm the kind of person I take a long time 403 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: to warm up two people and be comfortable like talking 404 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: to them and living with them. So the first couple 405 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: of weeks in the mansion were like super uncomfortable for me, 406 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: just like around all these new dudes. Um, I don't know, 407 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: it was just like a weird environment. And um, it 408 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: wasn't until we got to Rhode Island and we had 409 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: this like rugby group date where that was when Luke 410 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: p was kind of turning into like the villain of 411 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 1: our season and I was just like this little quiet 412 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: guy the whole time. And then when we were going 413 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: out on the field before the game started, we like 414 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: huddled up in the middle and I gave like our 415 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 1: team to pump up speech and no one expected. I 416 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: remember Mike and Dylan were looking at me just like 417 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: eyes wide open, there what is going on? And I 418 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: was like, you know, let's like kill this guy. Like 419 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 1: you know, I was like camped up, ready to go. 420 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: And that to me, that was like the whole change 421 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: of the season and the experience for me, and I 422 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 1: just actually felt like I was able to get to 423 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: know people better and make friends and actually enjoy it um. 424 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: But I think one of the big things for me 425 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: that I learned and it's frustrating being a contestant because 426 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: a lot of times, like the time you spend with 427 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 1: the lead isn't really in your control. But I think 428 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: what it made me realize is like when you do 429 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: you have that time or those moments, like you really 430 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: have to make the most of them. And I felt 431 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 1: like a lot of time in my life I was 432 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 1: just living very passively kind of just like letting things happen. 433 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: And it wasn't until right before the show where I 434 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: had like maybe taken back a little bit of control 435 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: in my life. And so I think it kind of 436 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 1: just reiterated to me, is like, Okay, you know, if 437 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: you want to make things happen in your life, you 438 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 1: gotta go like go do it, you know, Like and 439 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 1: I there's moments on the show where I wish I 440 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: had maybe done that more. Um, But I think that 441 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 1: kind of reiterated to me of like I need to 442 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: actually follow through and do that stuff, and then when 443 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 1: I do have those moments to make stuff happen, to 444 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 1: like really make the most of that. That was that 445 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: was probably the biggest takeaway from me, and I feel 446 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: like since then, I've really tried to take that to heart. 447 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 1: Are you glad you did it? Then? I mean, looking 448 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: back now we're just talking Bachelorrette, We're gonna talk Bachelor 449 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: and Paradeston just a second. But are you glad you 450 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: did the Bachelorette? Yeah? I mean it was such a 451 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: cool experience. I am so thankful for the whole thing 452 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: and like everything that came from it. Um, I would 453 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 1: say it's interesting, like obviously a lot of cool opportunities 454 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: come from from the whole show and everything, but like 455 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: people have asked me and we'll talk about it in 456 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: a little bit, but the business I'm doing now, I 457 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: think I would still be doing that whether the show 458 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: happened or not, taking me longer to get there, But 459 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 1: really being on the show hasn't necessarily impacted how successful 460 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: that's better or anything. It's it's just all been through 461 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: other means. So I think it's kind of cool, Like 462 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 1: obviously very thankful for everything from the show, but still, 463 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: you know, I would like to think I'm the same 464 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: person I was before as I am after. That makes sense? 465 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: Does that? Does I mean? With Generous? You know, I 466 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: started it four years ago after my time on the show, 467 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 1: and I mean it's it's a great launching point for 468 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: a business. But today, you know, the people that have 469 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: heard about Generous through my social or whatever have already 470 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: heard about it, and so you know, i'd like to 471 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: I've asked myself that question, would I'd be doing this 472 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: without the show? So part of me and says no, 473 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 1: the show definitely give to me the the platform to 474 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: do it. Um, but I would like to hope I 475 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,239 Speaker 1: would have tried. And so we're gonna talk about your 476 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 1: business in just a second. Um let's take a break here, 477 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: we come back, we're gonna talk about Bachelor in Paradise 478 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 1: and what Connor is doing today. I just want to 479 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: go off of what you're saying about, like kind of 480 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: like finding your groove on the Bachelor at for a second, 481 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: did you find that you grew it all or like 482 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: gained confidence, like any personality traits that you think came 483 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: through through the process. I think definitely gained confidence. And 484 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: I feel like, I mean you all can probably speak 485 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: to that too, especially like coming off the show and 486 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 1: starting to watch it on TV. I think, you know, 487 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: just like hearing all the love and everything people are 488 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: giving you, Um, it definitely like boost your confidence. And 489 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: so I mean, I know we'll talk about Paradise in 490 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: the second, but I feel like going from the Bachelorette 491 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: to Paradise, remember going into Paradise just like super confident. 492 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: I felt. Honestly, I felt like I was on top 493 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: of the world. But um, I would say confidence was 494 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: definitely something I gained, and I think that was maybe 495 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 1: something that was lacking for me before the show. Just 496 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: because I hadn't found you know, that person for me, 497 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: I'm not the most like the biggest party or anything, 498 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: and so I wasn't like going out that much, um 499 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 1: the years leading up to being on the show, So 500 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 1: it was really hard to like meet people, I guess, um, 501 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: and so hadn't been in a ton of dates or anything. 502 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: You know, obviously a few here there, but um, like 503 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 1: just confidence is definitely a big, big one that changed 504 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 1: for men. I can totally reliate to everything you just 505 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: said there. Did you know this? Actually? With that, Connor 506 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: and I have a little bit of a big night together, 507 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: do you know this? Ah? So Jessica and I go 508 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: down to Bachelor in Paradise the year that Connor is 509 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 1: going to be down there. If you remember, right from 510 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: Connor's time on The Bachelor as a fan of his, 511 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 1: I thought he was probably gonna be chosen. And uh, 512 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: Connor is in line walking into the wedding of Chris 513 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 1: and Crystal right behind Jessica. This is Jessica's very first 514 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: time around TV stuff, so she's freaking out. I mean, 515 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: the girl is just a mess um and she still 516 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 1: would be if we did it again. But Connor standing 517 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: right behind us since we're making small talk, and I 518 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 1: was like, Oh, how's the show going for you? He's like, 519 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: it's uh, well, it's not going. It was like, what 520 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: do you mean. He's like, I've been quarantined kind of 521 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: what is it ten days at that point? Yeah? Man, 522 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: that was miserable quarantine for ten days. Yeah, what the 523 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: worst part about that is? And I guess Ben, you 524 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: you didn't go to Paradise, but Ashley, no, you just 525 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 1: you go to that hotel beforehand. And I flew in there, 526 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: I think the day after filming and started, and I 527 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,439 Speaker 1: I feel like I was told maybe that I was 528 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: going to go in like a day or two later. 529 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 1: She would have made sense for you to be part 530 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: of the original cast. And just to clarify, guys, we're 531 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 1: not talking COVID quarantine. We're talking bachelor quarantine to keep 532 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 1: you in the room for a couple of days. Yeah, 533 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 1: And so I was like amped up, ready to go, 534 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: fired up for this whole thing. And then the producers 535 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 1: came in my room like a few days later, and 536 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,959 Speaker 1: they're like, hey, just so you know, some things like 537 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 1: changed down on the beach, um, and we don't want 538 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: to send you in yet. So you're gonna mean this 539 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 1: room for another week and there's a special a week. Yeah. 540 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: So in total, I was stuck in this room for 541 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: ten days. Um and uh, I mean honestly, I feel 542 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 1: like I reached a bit of a groove towards the 543 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: end of the ten days, like just had a routine down, 544 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: you know, wake up. The sun would hit the balcony. 545 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 1: This is what time out. This is exactly what I 546 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: was gonna say. I still remember the exact words you 547 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,239 Speaker 1: told Jessica and I because jess at this point is 548 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 1: so confusius, like you're kidding me. They have you in 549 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: a room for ten days, and you go, you go, 550 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: it's not that bad. At two pm the sun reaches 551 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: over the other hotel and yeah, and she's like this 552 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: is ridiculous. Yeah, it was like one or two pm 553 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: the sun would reach over the other like the I guess, 554 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: the top of the building, and then I could get 555 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: I could get sun for like four hours, and so 556 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: I just go like laying the balcony is close to 557 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: the edge as possible so I could hit it, and 558 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: then uh, I'd wake up, order room service. I mean 559 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: I probably wrapped the room services unlimited guys and they 560 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: let you get drinks and stuff. I mean, I had 561 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: some real introspective moments locked in that hotel room for 562 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: five straight days. Like I like, I was just so 563 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: in my head. I was talk about just getting to 564 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: know yourself. That's what happens well for sure, and I 565 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: will say, Okay, So I did try and go. They 566 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: told me that because I was there for so long, 567 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: they let me like do some stuff they don't normally 568 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: let people do, to go to the pool a little bit. 569 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: So they took me to the pool one day, two days. 570 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: They took me to the spa a couple of days, 571 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: which is like the other thing. They were like, oh, 572 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: you know, do you want to go golfing? I was like, 573 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: oh yeah, I'd love to go golfing. And I ended 574 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: up not being allowed to go golfing because, um, Chris 575 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: was golfing like the whole time. I guess they didn't 576 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: want Chris to see me, so I couldn't go golfing 577 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: because of that. So you just mentioned this, Connor uh 578 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: And we have a couple more minutes left with you here. 579 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: But you said they told you, hey, there's gonna be 580 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: the special event, and what do they what do they 581 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: mean by that. So ultimately they meant that it was 582 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: going to be Chris and Crystal's wedding that I was 583 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: gonna be walking in at. And at the time, I 584 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: had no clue what they were talking about. I didn't 585 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,719 Speaker 1: know there was a wedding plan or anything. So I, 586 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: you know, for a week, I was just kind of 587 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: sitting in the dark having no clue. But um, the 588 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: wedding ended up being the kind of the event that 589 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: we walked in at. And I walked in with Chase 590 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: McNary and then I'm blanking on his name. He's uh 591 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: he was on the show a while ago. Brooks. Yeah, 592 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: the three of us walked in and um, that's when Matt, 593 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: you Ben and actually were you there? I did meet 594 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: you that I met you that day. Yeah. My my 595 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: my moment from that wedding was that I fell off 596 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: a chair. It's the second I got it. I remember that. 597 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: You remember that. It sounds like actually making an entrance. Uh. Well, Connor, 598 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: your time in Paradise maybe was shorter than expected, but 599 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: still impactful. You became somebody that people love from that, 600 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: in fact, so much so that you have a very 601 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: active TikTok following now. Are you meeting anybody through TikTok? Uh? 602 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: Where did TikTok come from? For you? Tell us about 603 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: life now a little bit. Yeah, So I don't know. 604 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like you all might be able 605 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: to relate to this, but I feel like Instagram, Uh, 606 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: it's just not like fun for me, you know, I 607 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: feel like a lot of times and you know, you 608 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: guys are probably better at posting and everything than I am. 609 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: I'm I'm absolutely terrible, but um, I just like can't. 610 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: I don't like taking pictures. I don't like doing any 611 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: of that, and so when it comes to like posting 612 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: on Instagram, I can never do it. But TikTok, to me, 613 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: it just seems like more of a fun like safe place, 614 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: you know, and I feel like I can have fun 615 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: and be a little silly, to be stupid. And it 616 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: didn't really start until covid started and I you know, obviously, 617 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: like everyone started dancing on there, and I'm a terrible dancer, 618 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: but I would just like, you know, start doing a 619 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: little bit of dancing to the trends or whatever, and 620 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: I just thought it was funny and uh ended up like, 621 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: you know, doing some cool stuff with it. So it's 622 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: It's been a lot of fun being on there, and 623 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,479 Speaker 1: I feel like it is more of a kind of 624 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: a safer, more fun, enjoyable environment for me than Instagram 625 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: is UM and it's it's led to a lot of 626 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: cool things with UM, you know, the business that I 627 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: ended up launching, and we've we've really only been doing 628 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: stuff on TikTok for that, so UM it's kind of 629 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: been cool to you know, to be a part of 630 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: that newer platform. Before we jump into your business, you 631 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: want to talk about your roommate situation, because we had 632 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: Mike on the podcast. He was telling us the last 633 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: time he was here that you guys were going to 634 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: be living together in awesome, but you who told us 635 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: behind the scenes that you're no longer living together. Um 636 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: he is living in where he is living, I believe 637 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: it is Porta Irata. Um. He's he's learning, he's learning 638 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: Spanish down in Mexico. He's gone back to his paradise roots. 639 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: He has his parents is right around the corner. Maybe 640 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: he's just waiting until the next summer to pop back 641 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: down there. I don't know. Is this split. Was this 642 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: a good roommate split? It was it was Mike. Mike 643 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: was a great roommate. Loved living with him, Um, and 644 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: I would hope you would say the same thing about me. 645 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: I will sound more of a messy guy. And Mike's 646 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: very tidy mentioned that. Yeah, so although we were roommates 647 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: on the show, so he knew what he was getting 648 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: into a little bit. Um, but I think he it 649 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 1: was really cool living with him because we have a 650 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: very similar kind of outlook and everything on life and 651 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: business and what we're trying to do. And um, I 652 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: think we you know, really motivated each other. And before 653 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: we even like moved in. I remember I drove down 654 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: to San Antonio to visit him, and the whole weekend 655 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 1: we just like wrote goals and everything we wanted to 656 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: achieve we were living together and everything, and it's cool 657 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 1: to see, you know, some of those goals came true. Something't. 658 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 1: But I think we've really like planted some good seeds 659 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,240 Speaker 1: to have a successful year this year and going forward. 660 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: And you know, obviously, like I'm I'm super thankful to 661 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: have lived with him, And um, I would hope he 662 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: would say the same about me. But we we had 663 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,359 Speaker 1: a great time together and Austin was like a great 664 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: city to live in, and it's I'm excited to be 665 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 1: back living here now. Well, you know you mentioned a 666 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: little bit ago, you've mentioned it throughout the podcast, a 667 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: huge part of your life. In fact, you just got 668 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 1: back to Austin because you're in l a for a bit. 669 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: Tell us about what you're doing now, just give us 670 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 1: the rundown, the greatest sales pitch you can on your 671 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: new business and where you hope this goes. Yeah, So, 672 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 1: m I met my friend Mike back in December, a 673 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: little bit over a year ago, I think, right, yeah, 674 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: the two years gosh, keep keep forgetting. But I met 675 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 1: him and he had this idea to create kind of 676 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: like a hangover hydration products, more of not necessarily for hangovers, 677 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: but just a hydration product, and we, you know, just 678 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: clicked and started working on this thing. We ended up 679 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: um manufacturing it in Los Angeles. But before we even 680 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 1: manufactured it, we uh just started making some TikTok videos 681 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 1: on a business account that had no followers. A couple 682 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: of them went viral, and um they we decided to 683 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: do a pre sale for the product before we even 684 00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: had it. We ended up selling out all of our 685 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 1: initial inventory and about thirty minutes when we opened the 686 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 1: pre sale, and so it was just like crazy seeing 687 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 1: this thing evolved. And that was in May UM and 688 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 1: we didn't get more inventory until August and now we're 689 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: you know, getting into some really big production runs with it. 690 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: But it's just been crazy to kind of see this 691 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 1: thing grow. And it's it's always been like such a 692 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 1: dream of mine to um start a business and grow 693 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 1: it and like really grown into something big and um 694 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: make a big impact on people. And it's it's honestly 695 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 1: just been like surreal being a part of it. UM. 696 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: What's the name of it. It's called water Boy. Water Boy, 697 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 1: But right now we have a it's a it's more 698 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: of a hangover hydration product. And so a lot of 699 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 1: the hydration products you see in the market have a 700 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,320 Speaker 1: lot of sugar, UM don't really have that many electrolytes, 701 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 1: and we took a different route, no sugar, more electrolytes 702 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 1: than any other products on the market. Ginger and camm 703 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 1: meal for stomach nausea athening which relaxes you, and then 704 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 1: vitamin B and C and so everyone that's tried it 705 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: loves it. So far, I will say we've kind of 706 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 1: refined to taste a little bit, so it tastes a 707 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 1: lot better. Um. And then we're launching two more products, 708 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: uh probably within the month. So um. It's been a 709 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 1: pretty pretty exciting time for all that and just honestly 710 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: been really cool to make it happen. I wish I 711 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 1: would have had this um when I was throwing up 712 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:31,800 Speaker 1: every day. Um, mainly because I felt like liquid ivy 713 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 1: was too sweet and plus it didn't have anything like 714 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: the ginger to use the stomach. Yeah. Yeah, And what 715 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: I will say, no knock on liquid ivy or I 716 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 1: do love liquid ivy. Yeah, yeah, it is a It 717 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 1: is a great product and polite to a lot of 718 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 1: people take that for hangovers. But I don't think a 719 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,279 Speaker 1: lot of people realize when you buy liquid ivy, se 720 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 1: of what you're buying is sugar, um, And do you 721 00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 1: really need that for hydration? No you don't. Um. And 722 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 1: so we really just packed it with like everything that 723 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: you need that is essential. And um, it really works. 724 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: It really does a good job. And you know, people 725 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 1: have loved it so far. But we'll have to send 726 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,439 Speaker 1: you something to try out. We have some some good 727 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,360 Speaker 1: flavors going on, actually big on TikTok also, yeah, you 728 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 1: can get some TikTok followers big on TikTok. Now you 729 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 1: need to be on TikTok for sure. You gotta you 730 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,800 Speaker 1: gotta get on TikTok. You. Mike and I had a 731 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 1: rule for TikTok dances. It was more so my rule, 732 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 1: but I think a lot of people spend too much 733 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 1: time thinking about like doing a dance and getting it 734 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: really good before they post it. My rule is one take. 735 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 1: You watch the video of the dance for one minute, 736 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 1: one and then you do one take and you post it, 737 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 1: even if it's terrible and so Mike and I have 738 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 1: some pretty bad dances out there. It's my fault, but 739 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 1: I feel like it it makes it more fun because 740 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,880 Speaker 1: it's it kind of like makes you laugh at yourself 741 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 1: a little bit because it's just so bad. I like 742 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 1: that that probably works for two single attractive men, like 743 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 1: a married couple. I don't know if that's too funny 744 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 1: or too engaging. I think y'all can do some good 745 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 1: stuff on that. We we've got some ideas too. We 746 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 1: just feel like we're just like production people or we're like, 747 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: oh my god, it will take us like four hours 748 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 1: to do it. TikTok and then we'll we'll argue about 749 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,800 Speaker 1: it because like some because I'm so bad at acting 750 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 1: and he's so good and it takes me forever and 751 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 1: he could do it one tape. Wonder anyway, that sounds 752 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 1: like my nightmare. Well, hey, we got to talk about 753 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 1: his love life. We will, we will, but before we do. Here, Connor, 754 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 1: last time you're on, And if there's a sore subject, 755 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 1: I still think it's worth talking about. You were creating 756 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 1: uh some gummies. Um I believe they were apple. They 757 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 1: were like vinegar apple cider vinegar gummies. Right, yeah, yeah, 758 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 1: so we had we had a sleep gummy. And is 759 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 1: that still going on? Or is that has that been? 760 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,839 Speaker 1: That's that's an interesting one. I actually uh so I 761 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 1: was pumped to start that, put so much time and 762 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,240 Speaker 1: energy into it, and then Covid started and it was like, oh, 763 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: this is the worst time to launch a business. It 764 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 1: ended up being like somewhat of a good time, I 765 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:23,400 Speaker 1: guess because online products and sales and well and stuff 766 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,919 Speaker 1: did really well, and so it did start to do well. 767 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 1: I think I just reached the point where I was like, 768 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,360 Speaker 1: I didn't really think through this before I started it. 769 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 1: If I was actually like really interested in doing this, 770 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 1: kind of just hit it, and um, I it was 771 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 1: December of I was like, what do I want to 772 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 1: do next? And I honestly wasn't sure what that business. 773 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,400 Speaker 1: But it ended up being perfect timing because some people 774 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 1: reached out and actually wanted to buy it from me. 775 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 1: So I ended up selling that business in December. And 776 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,120 Speaker 1: that's kind of when this whole water boy thing started it. 777 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,799 Speaker 1: And um, you know, I was kind of trying to 778 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 1: think of like the next chapter in my life of 779 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 1: what I wanted to do, and the hydration stuff was 780 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 1: actually the other thing I was considering of starting when 781 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,280 Speaker 1: I started the gummy Thingum it was just the gummies 782 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:18,760 Speaker 1: were easier to make at the time. So um it's 783 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 1: it's kind of interesting how it's come full circle. But yeah, 784 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:26,399 Speaker 1: I wonder I can not take Apple's shot. So those 785 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 1: gummies are Yeah, I've tried the goalies. Yeah, yeah, they're 786 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 1: not bad. It's not bad. Well, obviously actually has some 787 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 1: questions for you about your love life. And then every 788 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,239 Speaker 1: time we end and in depth actually want to prep you. 789 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,280 Speaker 1: Now get your questions together. We're gonna do a rapid 790 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 1: fire around. So one more, two more questions here and 791 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 1: then rapid fire, We'll get you out of here. Connor, perfect, 792 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 1: All right, Well, there are rumors that you're dating someone 793 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 1: named Jenna Palack. She has um a pretty good social 794 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 1: media following. She also lives in Texas. The spell it 795 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 1: Jenna Jay okay, Um, can you could infirm or deny 796 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:16,280 Speaker 1: any um any relationship there? Um? You know, I will 797 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:22,319 Speaker 1: say I am off the market currently. I think that's 798 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 1: that's kind of all I can give you at the moment. 799 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 1: Not not that I'm trying to hide anything. I just 800 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 1: kind of like, and y'all can probably relate to this. 801 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 1: It's nice to have like a little bit of privacy, 802 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,760 Speaker 1: uh for for a bit on some of that stuff. 803 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 1: And so I think it's it's not trying to hide anything. 804 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 1: I just there's like certain things it's kind of nice 805 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 1: to like, at least for now. Keep that to myself. 806 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 1: But I will sig him off the market at the 807 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:48,479 Speaker 1: moment um and just just very happy spending time with somebody. Well, 808 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,359 Speaker 1: Jess and I kept quiet for probably five or six months, 809 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 1: and it was the best five or six months. At 810 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:55,800 Speaker 1: some point people are like, you know, you need to 811 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,319 Speaker 1: come out and tell people and I'm like, why it 812 00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 1: doesn't It doesn't you know, it adds a whole new 813 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,759 Speaker 1: level pressure. Well, if it's not with Jenna, this conversation 814 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:10,759 Speaker 1: just got really weird for whoever is with Um. Okay, well, 815 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 1: I guess I won't pry anymore. Um, Yeah, okay, fine, 816 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,880 Speaker 1: I want I won't pry anymore. But you're happy and 817 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:22,879 Speaker 1: you're dating someone and that person lives in Texas. Yes, 818 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,840 Speaker 1: but I'm not going to pry anymore, but I probably 819 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:40,280 Speaker 1: trying without pride. Okay, fine, Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, okay, Um, 820 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 1: And now should we do rapid Fire? Ben, do you 821 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,319 Speaker 1: have a question before we go around? No, before we do. 822 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,320 Speaker 1: This is how we'll send it off. Connor, thanks for 823 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 1: joining us today. Thanks for doing this in depth. It's 824 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,280 Speaker 1: great to learn more about you. Um. All jokes aside, 825 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,479 Speaker 1: We were very happy that you're happy. Best of luck 826 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,719 Speaker 1: with water Boy and to the new things coming out. 827 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 1: But this is where I pass it off to Ashley 828 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,279 Speaker 1: for rapid Fire, So Ashley take it away. All right? 829 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:12,400 Speaker 1: These are all fun questions, Alright, it favorite favorite bachelorette 830 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:17,480 Speaker 1: memory that didn't make air? Um, probably hanging out with 831 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 1: hanging out in the kitchen, with John Paul Jones late 832 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:25,400 Speaker 1: at night and him talking about his greatest fear. I 833 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,640 Speaker 1: can only imagine. Honestly, I've told this story so many times, 834 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 1: but I just forgot what his greatest fear was. Oh 835 00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,239 Speaker 1: my gosh, I have to ask him. Yeah, you'll have 836 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:42,240 Speaker 1: to ask him. Okay, Um, who's your celebrity crush on? Oh, 837 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 1: that's a good one. That's a very good one. What's 838 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:57,399 Speaker 1: your favorite movie? Um, you name a few I love. 839 00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 1: I feel like this isn't a good one. I might 840 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:05,520 Speaker 1: get after this, but I love like National Treasure. That's hilarious. 841 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,960 Speaker 1: I never saw it. I feel like people always laugh 842 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:12,320 Speaker 1: at Nick Nick Cage, but I you know, I love those. 843 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 1: I love Treasure. What's your favorite chain restaurant? Um. I 844 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,439 Speaker 1: used to be a big Taco Bell guy. Great one 845 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,920 Speaker 1: used to be. You know, I'm trying the whole gluten 846 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:33,239 Speaker 1: and dairy free thing, so it's not very conducive, certainly not. Okay, Um, 847 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:37,520 Speaker 1: what's your f food pizza? Do you do the dairy 848 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:42,680 Speaker 1: free and gluten free food? I do? I do? Um? 849 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 1: And what is your um m hmm. What's your best 850 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:57,880 Speaker 1: memory from the past year. Um? In the past year, honestly, 851 00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 1: I think, I think just like living think with Mike 852 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,080 Speaker 1: was a really cool experience. Um, just like the whole 853 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,520 Speaker 1: the whole year. I think I learned a lot about myself. 854 00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,720 Speaker 1: He did too. He did a lot of cool stuff. 855 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,440 Speaker 1: I actually one of the more fun things as we 856 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 1: went to uh to Loom for a weekend with another friend, 857 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:16,600 Speaker 1: and that was that was just like a really good time. 858 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 1: And I felt like it was cool for both of 859 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 1: us to maybe branch out of like the business, everyday 860 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 1: life of living in Austin, like going a fun little 861 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:29,240 Speaker 1: adventure a tving around Mexico. Um. So that that was fun. 862 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,440 Speaker 1: It was a good time. Okay, So what was the 863 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:35,759 Speaker 1: worst part of Mike being your roommate? So, Mike, Mike 864 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 1: is like a He's like a natural alarm clock. Every 865 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 1: morning when he wakes up, he yells as loud as 866 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,120 Speaker 1: he can. He does like the whoa he does that thing. 867 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,919 Speaker 1: I could hear him. Our rooms were on like very 868 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,319 Speaker 1: separate ends of this apartment we lived in. I could 869 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,760 Speaker 1: hear him like he was right next to my ears. 870 00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,359 Speaker 1: It was so loud. So whether I wanted to wake 871 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,799 Speaker 1: up or not, it was like the same time every 872 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 1: day he wakes up jumps in a cold bath, yells 873 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 1: WHOA punches the wall three times and gets his butt 874 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,680 Speaker 1: outside that Basically, Basically, I will say one thing I 875 00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 1: love about Mike, and this is a great memory that 876 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:17,440 Speaker 1: I have. I bought these like affirmations on Amazon that 877 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,520 Speaker 1: I like. They were like wall decals. Um. I was 878 00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,880 Speaker 1: told I'm like one of those live laugh love girls. 879 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,279 Speaker 1: I have like signs all over. But I put this 880 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,120 Speaker 1: up right next to our door and it was five 881 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,279 Speaker 1: different affirmations, and whenever we would invite someone over to 882 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:35,160 Speaker 1: our house, we would make them yell the affirmations and 883 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:36,360 Speaker 1: it was like it was like you were in like 884 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,560 Speaker 1: the huddle of a football game or something. We would 885 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,359 Speaker 1: just like hype each other up and yell him every 886 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:44,160 Speaker 1: morning sometimes like get amped up. There's a funny Instagram 887 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 1: post on Mike's Instagram. Actually we like took a video 888 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,839 Speaker 1: of us making this one of our friends do it, 889 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,560 Speaker 1: and it was I just like loved love doing that 890 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,720 Speaker 1: because it just brings so much good energy. Wow. This 891 00:47:55,719 --> 00:48:00,359 Speaker 1: this feels like a very very energetic house. Um trying 892 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:04,160 Speaker 1: to make it. That's your right, hey, Connor follower lead here. Uh, 893 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna understand in a second, just repeat after us, 894 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,960 Speaker 1: but use your name. This has been Connor Saley on 895 00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,759 Speaker 1: an in depth episode with the Almost Famous podcast I've Been, 896 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 1: I've Been Ashley, I've Been Good. Job bye. 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