Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we love naming some dudes.
Speaker 2: I'm Greg Rosenthal.
Speaker 1: I'm here in the Chris Westling podcast studio with my
Speaker 1: friend Jordan Rodrieg of The Athletic and yes, it's one
Speaker 1: of your favorite episodes, Jordan, we're going to check.
Speaker 2: In on some guys.
Speaker 3: Check in on some guys, which is a.
Speaker 2: Close cousin to name some dudes. Just naming some dudes.
Speaker 2: I think that has to be.
Speaker 1: A future episode this offseason. We get a full studio,
Speaker 1: maybe Colleen Patrick, whoever else in here.
Speaker 3: Which should be great.
Speaker 1: Steve should that would be good, and just we named
Speaker 1: some dudes for forty minutes.
Speaker 4: Naming some dudes one of the favorite pastimes of the sport.
Speaker 1: But today we're checking in on some guys. One of
Speaker 1: Jordan Rodrieg, executive producer Trademark's segment and it's the off season.
Speaker 2: We just want to check in on some guys.
Speaker 4: And uh, elect every time you say it, it's great,
Speaker 4: it really is.
Speaker 1: And we're also celebrating that we're one hundred days away
Speaker 1: from the start of the NFL season, and the NFL
Speaker 1: celebrated today by getting back on the field and practicing
Speaker 1: football twenty teams started their OTAs on Tuesday. Six more
Speaker 1: the final six will start on Wednesday, so most of
Speaker 1: the league is jamming the abbreviated OTA season into the
Speaker 1: next three weeks or so.
Speaker 4: Some may argue that now football is back. I argue
Speaker 4: that football has never left, but it is so so back.
Speaker 1: It does get you those feelings when people are putting
Speaker 1: the first team defense on Twitter.
Speaker 2: Yah, you know.
Speaker 4: And also and also the very tightly edited shots of
Speaker 4: the spiral pass somehow is not unclipped at all as
Speaker 4: it travels through the air perfectly and lands gently in
Speaker 4: the hands of the star receiver. Like I love this
Speaker 4: time of year. Man, This is this is everything is.
Speaker 4: Everything is good, nothing is bad.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 1: It is funny because the Colts, I think they had
Speaker 1: they had one up. Maybe they had an earlier ots.
Speaker 1: There were a few teams that were going and it's
Speaker 1: like they have an Anthony Richardson nice pass, and then
Speaker 1: just a little while later you see them post a
Speaker 1: nice Daniel Jones pass.
Speaker 2: So it's just equality even in terms of it's.
Speaker 3: A true quarterback battle right there.
Speaker 2: Greg the social media.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll do a little bit of news and
Speaker 1: then we'll check in on some guys and because yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of news coming off of this
Speaker 1: Memorial D weekend. Joey Bosa has a calf injury. He
Speaker 1: is not expected to be ready until training camp, and
Speaker 1: even then you have to wonder because it's a new injury.
Speaker 1: It happened while training Whether training camp is definitely a lock.
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott, their coach, said it was concerning and I
Speaker 1: would agree with that this was a risk when they
Speaker 1: signed Joey Bosa to a twelve million dollar contract.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: When I saw the headline come up, my immediate thought
Speaker 4: was like, Okay, here we go again kind of thing.
Speaker 4: Unfortunately for him, the injuries, they just keep coming up
Speaker 4: regularly sometimes this time of year. Your second reaction after
Speaker 4: here we go is does he not want to be
Speaker 4: an OTAs? Is this less concerning than maybe it's being
Speaker 4: made out to be kind of a thing. But for
Speaker 4: Sean McDermott to come out and say, hey, I am
Speaker 4: concerned about this, something to watch, definitely someone to check
Speaker 4: in on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you you never know this time of year how
Speaker 1: serious the injury is going to be. But when it
Speaker 1: comes to Boso, when they made all this, yeah, talk about, Hey,
Speaker 1: they've got a different training staff here in Buffalo, and
Speaker 1: we've got some really great ideas on how to keep
Speaker 1: him on the field, and he's such an important part
Speaker 1: I think of what they want to do. They also
Speaker 1: have these have to got some suspension, right, two players
Speaker 1: that were suspended to start the year. I think it's
Speaker 1: it's just disappointing and we'll see how that goes. James
Speaker 1: Cook is also not at OTA's McDermott spoke about that
Speaker 1: on Tuesday.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we're staying in touch like you'd expect a player
Speaker 6: and a coach to do. So you know, James will
Speaker 6: be here when he's ready to be here, and and
Speaker 6: you know, we move forward.
Speaker 4: Do you know you and Sean mcdermom are almost wearing
Speaker 4: the same outfit today?
Speaker 3: Was that you have the same shirt on?
Speaker 1: Just well, it's a controversial piece of apparel in my household.
Speaker 1: My wife says, I cannot pull off the short sleeve hoodie.
Speaker 2: Look.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I walked in and I asked you when shoot
Speaker 3: around was?
Speaker 2: So, you know I got this at Uniclow.
Speaker 1: I believe she said you need to be like a
Speaker 1: six foot two like Japanese guy in his twenties to
Speaker 1: pull this off. I feel like this is a popular
Speaker 1: look over there, but.
Speaker 3: It's a football guy.
Speaker 4: Look, okay, I mean Sean's what I'm trying to be
Speaker 4: wearing basically the same thing as you. I don't know
Speaker 4: how you feel about that.
Speaker 1: I feel totally fine with it. He got ranked twelfth
Speaker 1: in our coaches list. Good guy, I guess James Cook.
Speaker 1: He's not going to get any more money. So this
Speaker 1: is kind of one of the more pointless holdouts. Not
Speaker 1: really a holdout, these are these are voluntary workouts, but
Speaker 1: he just wants to let them know he's he's not happy.
Speaker 1: He's made that clear. I don't think he has any
Speaker 1: chance to get another contract. It's just one of those things.
Speaker 1: One other item I wanted to mention though with Buffalo
Speaker 1: was Matt Milana was gonna be one of the guys
Speaker 1: I want to check out, But since we were talking
Speaker 1: bills here, I kind of wanted to just mention that
Speaker 1: he took like a big pay cut this year, and
Speaker 1: I kind of combined him and Bosa in this group
Speaker 1: of Yes, they've suddenly got way younger on defense over
Speaker 1: the last couple of years, but these two guys specifically
Speaker 1: are kind of boom or bust, guys that could make
Speaker 1: or break their defense being great or just mediocre. Getting
Speaker 1: the old Matt Milano back, which they must have doubts
Speaker 1: about if they made him take a pay cup. Making
Speaker 1: Matt Milano take a pay cut. It's dirty, dirty pool.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's been such a face of that defense and
Speaker 4: a cornerstone player there, but obviously had some down some downs,
Speaker 4: some down games.
Speaker 2: Certainly you're just coming off an injury, didn't he look.
Speaker 4: Well, it's a respect maybe coming off quickly, a little
Speaker 4: quickly off of an injury that maybe needed a little
Speaker 4: bit more time as well. He's actually one of Pro
Speaker 4: football focuses comeback player candidates of the Year to pose
Speaker 4: one of those types of seasons. You know, we always
Speaker 4: get this type of content out this time of year,
Speaker 4: but I think in Matt Malona's case, there's a real
Speaker 4: possibility he's not too far removed from the memory of
Speaker 4: the glory days to at least capture some of that.
Speaker 4: And I think that basically this is probably a team
Speaker 4: that said, hey, we're going to try to really make
Speaker 4: a run this season. We as someone who means a
Speaker 4: lot to our franchise, we'd like you with us. It's
Speaker 4: only going to be at this number, right, that's this situation.
Speaker 4: Reeks of that to me.
Speaker 1: Right, he's older than Joey Bosa. That surprised me. He's
Speaker 1: thirty years old. Milano and Bosa just two guys to
Speaker 1: me where I think the Bills have done a good
Speaker 1: job getting younger, but you still need top shelf defensive players,
Speaker 1: not just a bunch of good players. We'll see if
Speaker 1: they're on the field. You know who wasn't on the
Speaker 1: field on Tuesday. No kirk Cousins at practice, shocking nobody. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess it would be awkward. Plus, Michael Pennox is
Speaker 1: doing the press conference. Yet I saw some practice footed
Speaker 1: some of the people at the facility saying, you know,
Speaker 1: not the most accurate out of Michael Pennocks. We're not
Speaker 1: going to worry about it too much on May twenty seventh,
Speaker 1: but he is a guy who's accuracy kind of comes
Speaker 1: and goes a little bit. But No, Kirk Cousins is
Speaker 1: seating the floor to Michael Pennix.
Speaker 4: It's interesting. I have to I mean, they're at a
Speaker 4: stalemate a little bit right now, Kirk Cousins and the Falcons,
Speaker 4: and I have to wonder who blinks first in this scenario,
Speaker 4: because you would like to have a quality backup potentially
Speaker 4: if you're a starter that you've determined to be Michael Pennis,
Speaker 4: you know, God forbid, gets injured or something happens, has
Speaker 4: a setback down the season, just coming into his second
Speaker 4: year in the NFL, pretty much a must win season
Speaker 4: for a few people on that team and a few
Speaker 4: people in the front office potentially even the coaching staff
Speaker 4: as well. So I really feel like this is if
Speaker 4: you're the Falcons front office, you almost can't blink first.
Speaker 4: But I don't know what you do if you're Kirk,
Speaker 4: how do you force any more leverage out of this situation?
Speaker 1: I think it's like a soft version of the Derek
Speaker 1: Carr situation with the Saints, that both sides are just like,
Speaker 1: let's just stay apart and it'll naturally solve itself.
Speaker 2: And I don't know how that is.
Speaker 1: Whether you know there was a report that you know
Speaker 1: he's kind of the backup playing in Pittsburgh. Potentially, if
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers didn't show up at Aaron Rodgers, by all accounts,
Speaker 1: is showing up, it's probably going to be an injury
Speaker 1: somewhere else where he ends up landing or he finds
Speaker 1: that there's nothing out there and he shows up to
Speaker 1: training camp when it is mandatory and and just is
Speaker 1: the backup for Michael Pennox.
Speaker 2: But I do not buy that that's going to happen.
Speaker 4: Mike McCartney, his agent is probably like texting Tim Younger,
Speaker 4: Derek Carr's agent, Hey man, you want to send over
Speaker 4: email me that checklist that you guys went through to
Speaker 4: have the little retirement, and don't nobody tell anyone that
Speaker 4: we might actually be coming back.
Speaker 2: You know, Kirk Kirk wants to play.
Speaker 3: He wants to play.
Speaker 2: That's that's why I thought.
Speaker 1: The funniest outcome would be, not that I would wish
Speaker 1: this on anything, but if Tyler Shuck like suffered another
Speaker 1: one of those injuries and was out for a little
Speaker 1: bit of the off season, them trading him Kirk to the.
Speaker 4: Saint k also like what a fit with Kellen Moore. Honestly,
Speaker 4: like some of them would. It wouldn't passing like like
Speaker 4: I said, with Tyler Shuck they like I could. I
Speaker 4: could totally see it.
Speaker 1: And you mentioned the front office, you know, potentially having
Speaker 1: jobs online.
Speaker 2: Yes, ranked all they gotta do is podcast. All they
Speaker 2: got to.
Speaker 1: Do is show them the ranking that Terry Fonteno got
Speaker 1: on Patrick Claybahn and ies very controversial GM rankings from the.
Speaker 2: Other other day. Check that out.
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts was also among the people not at OTAs.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to sweat it when it's first day.
Speaker 1: Sometimes we find out it just has a family thing
Speaker 1: or whatever, it doesn't matter. But if if we find
Speaker 1: out that it has something to do with this contract,
Speaker 1: then then we'll let you know. The Bengals don't have
Speaker 1: their first round pick at practice. Shamar Stewart is not
Speaker 1: practicing with the Bengals because of contract language, and Bengals
Speaker 1: fans always think we're picking on them, and then stuff
Speaker 1: like this happens.
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, I read Pro.
Speaker 1: Football Talks explanation of the language in the contract that
Speaker 1: the Bengals are changing that Shamar Stewart's agent doesn't want
Speaker 1: to sign because it's different than the language that had
Speaker 1: been in all previous Bengals contracts. But honestly, even after
Speaker 1: reading the article, I don't totally understand it. So I'm
Speaker 1: not going to pretend that I like support or deny,
Speaker 1: but it's just like, of course, this is a Bengals story,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Yeah, there is something to it.
Speaker 4: If this is going to come up for any one
Speaker 4: team during the off season and during OTAs specifically as
Speaker 4: it pertains to the language of a contract or a
Speaker 4: financial situation or some small detail that ends up being
Speaker 4: really really important in the minds of the player and
Speaker 4: the agent, it's gonna be the Cincinnati Bengals. I think
Speaker 4: we know that by now, we have precedent.
Speaker 1: It could become a real thing because it's one where
Speaker 1: like one of the sides has to bend or Shamar
Speaker 1: Stewart's going to miss a lot of the off season,
Speaker 1: and if anything, it's given me, you know, nice nostalgia.
Speaker 1: Back in my Rota World days Pro Football Talk by Brick,
Speaker 1: a lot of our off season was spent on, unfortunately
Speaker 1: rookie holdouts and whatnot, and just like the drama behind that,
Speaker 1: and there was more in training camp.
Speaker 2: Usually they would show up to the OTA.
Speaker 1: This is a little odd that he's just like not
Speaker 1: even showing up to OTA's but he's not under contract.
Speaker 1: And I like for the most part that rookie contracts
Speaker 1: are no longer actual news. We try to make into
Speaker 1: news like I'm inside it, but it's really not like
Speaker 1: Mason Graham, for instance, the number five pick of the draft.
Speaker 2: Are you aware that he's signed his contract today?
Speaker 3: I am a.
Speaker 4: We really don't sign his contract today. I think that
Speaker 4: a lot of times it's used to engagement farm specifically,
Speaker 4: like in the case of Shador Sanders, signing the same
Speaker 4: rookie contract that every other draft pick of his status
Speaker 4: in the draft has signed made major news because of
Speaker 4: course he's going to sign the contract, he's going to
Speaker 4: probably be playing quarterback on the field in significant games
Speaker 4: for them.
Speaker 3: At some point.
Speaker 1: Agree, And it also might be the insiders and whoever's
Speaker 1: reporting on of the team. Reporters do it as well
Speaker 1: to beat report, just like hey, I'm here. I know
Speaker 1: it's a full time job all year round. I'm doing
Speaker 1: something kind of like an Instagram post essentially, just like, Hey,
Speaker 1: remember me, I existed, here's my purpose for being.
Speaker 2: I've done that.
Speaker 3: I recently did that.
Speaker 2: Especially, It's totally fine.
Speaker 1: Sean Murphy Bunting is a Arizona Cardinals quarterback part of
Speaker 1: the search Bar defense from a year ago, as named
Speaker 1: by Patrick Claybonn, who people might be familiar with because
Speaker 1: he came from Tampa and had some good moments there.
Speaker 1: He's unfortunately out for the season with a non football injury,
Speaker 1: and I thought about, does this even belong in the news,
Speaker 1: And then I looked. He was guaranteed seven point six
Speaker 1: million dollars in base salary this year. That was second
Speaker 1: on the Arizona Cardinals. He was the second highest paid
Speaker 1: in terms of total guaranteed money. He was third behind
Speaker 1: Justin Jones, which is it's a weird two three. That
Speaker 1: just shows how under the radar this team is in general.
Speaker 1: But a guy who's played a lot and wasn't even
Speaker 1: locked in to necessarily start because their secondary is so deep,
Speaker 1: maybe the deepest part of their team, but it will
Speaker 1: test their depth.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it turns out, you know, good value potentially,
Speaker 4: and that will Johnson pick up because they got him
Speaker 4: a little bit later and there's questions and concerns about
Speaker 4: some lingering injury with him. But if it turns out
Speaker 4: that they need him earlier than they expected and he's
Speaker 4: cleared medically to go, that is a lucky draw because
Speaker 4: you can't possibly predict obviously injuries in a well.
Speaker 1: I wish I should have informed I should have mentioned
Speaker 1: this as part of the news setup.
Speaker 2: So that is on me.
Speaker 1: But ESPN's josh Winfuss I believe he said that the
Speaker 1: Cardinals actually didn't know about this. It happened, I believe
Speaker 1: in the off season, but they knew about it before
Speaker 1: the draft. They did take two cornerbacks in the draft.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that informed. I think Will Johnson
Speaker 1: would have been got lucky. Good planning, good planning they
Speaker 1: that they took.
Speaker 3: Look at the Cardinals. Good planning by the Cardinals.
Speaker 2: But who knows.
Speaker 1: They might you know, if Will Johnson wasn't on the board,
Speaker 1: they might have felt pretty good about their depth anyways,
Speaker 1: because yeah, we talked about the Cardinals defense a lot,
Speaker 1: and this just gives us a little chance to do so.
Speaker 1: Max Melton is a guy they took in the second
Speaker 1: round last year that had a good rookie season for
Speaker 1: a second round pick. Certainly, Garrett Williams is their nickelback
Speaker 1: and he was probably boxing out Sean Murphy bunting from
Speaker 1: snaps on this roster because he had play well. So
Speaker 1: it probably was gonna come down to Will Johnson and
Speaker 1: Murphy button on the outside or kind of rotating.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and with uh he likes to Jonathan Gannon likes,
Speaker 4: and Nikralis like to rotate their coverage shells. They like
Speaker 4: to do a lot of different types of things with
Speaker 4: their looks, especially their defensive backfield and their pressure front.
Speaker 4: So I feel like that's you're just more limited in
Speaker 4: that regard. But that's what again, why you go a
Speaker 4: little bit heavier in the draft at a position that
Speaker 4: a lot of people, including us, didn't really expect them
Speaker 4: to although we did expect them to just in the
Speaker 4: first round and not later.
Speaker 1: Right Well, and Will Johnson, Yeah, one of the key
Speaker 1: I think rookies to track in the league now and
Speaker 1: this just highlights it. Oh, we've taken a lot of
Speaker 1: time here. I want to check in on some guys.
Speaker 1: You have a certain.
Speaker 3: Way of saying it, checking on some guys.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, checking on some guys.
Speaker 1: And yeah, this is a Jordan Rodriege executive produced trademark moment.
Speaker 1: And you've had a lot of hits lately, you know,
Speaker 1: you've had some bangers who who is uh, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to think of like the big executive producer that signed
Speaker 1: like one hundred million dollar contract with Netflix.
Speaker 2: The woman I'm totally.
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Speaker 1: Sure with Amazon, this is your Phoebe waller Bridge, although
Speaker 1: she didn't actually yeah, she didn't actually create any shows,
Speaker 1: but but just a couple of weeks ago, I did
Speaker 1: want to give you credit for coming up with would
Speaker 1: you Rather, or at least making that into a segment,
Speaker 1: which was a huge hit. So you get us go
Speaker 1: and explain, you know, the segments, say it the right way,
Speaker 1: and then and give us a player.
Speaker 4: Check it on some guys is really all it is.
Speaker 4: We'll check it on some guys around the league. Is
Speaker 4: OTA start. We want to make sure we're not looking
Speaker 4: too far ahead. This is just truly within the context
Speaker 4: of checking on some guys we're interested in during OTAs
Speaker 4: and why they might be relevant to specifically the spring period.
Speaker 3: Okay, now you have to try.
Speaker 2: To say now you're gonna you're gonna start.
Speaker 3: Try to say it like I said it.
Speaker 2: Check it in some guys, checking on some guys.
Speaker 4: It's like almost so close. This is like I'm wearing
Speaker 4: the Sean McDermott version.
Speaker 3: Of the cutoff hoodie. You're wearing the Greg.
Speaker 1: Versus Shonda Rhymes and Shonda shondaaland is what like everything
Speaker 1: I haven't heard anything that you were saying over the
Speaker 1: last night.
Speaker 4: They could ever attain Shonda Rhyme's elites. She is incredible. Also,
Speaker 4: the Residence was a good show.
Speaker 2: It is a bad job by me.
Speaker 1: You got you gotta be listening at all moments and
Speaker 1: if you can't, if you can't come up with them,
Speaker 1: you can't come up with name. I want you to
Speaker 1: start the segment.
Speaker 4: Let's go starting off checking on some guys I'd like
Speaker 4: to check on Caleb Williams. Bears obviously already started OTAs,
Speaker 4: but he still hasn't been made available to the media,
Speaker 4: which is sort of normal. Coaches often talk first quarterbacks
Speaker 4: and other players will talk the next week, just depends
Speaker 4: on how the team wants to structure things out.
Speaker 3: But it is notable within the context of that.
Speaker 4: Seth Wickersham excerpt from his book that nobody was teaching
Speaker 4: Caleb Williams how to watch film last year. That's actually
Speaker 4: the part that stuck out the most to me, not
Speaker 4: necessarily the fact that himself and his dad were at
Speaker 4: first like super wary to the point of trying to
Speaker 4: get out of being drafted by the Bears. Where the
Speaker 4: quarterback goes to die if I'm remembering that quote correctly.
Speaker 4: What was more notable to me was the film, the
Speaker 4: lack of film study, the lack of process, the lack
Speaker 4: of teaching, of real teaching progression. I would like to know,
Speaker 4: as I check in on Caleb Williams, and this is
Speaker 4: my request of the Bears reporters, I'd like to specifically
Speaker 4: know what that looks like this year. Yeah, you're Ben Johnson,
Speaker 4: tell me what that actually looks like. It's not just
Speaker 4: an indictment on last year's coaching staff. It's an indictment
Speaker 4: on Southern California, on Lincoln Riley and that coaching staff.
Speaker 4: If he at that point is very clearly saying like
Speaker 4: I don't know what the process of doing this at
Speaker 4: this level is. That's an indictment on everybody. And I'd
Speaker 4: like to really know what getting that infrastructure in place
Speaker 4: looks like. It's such a significant and crucial element of
Speaker 4: a quarterback's development, and I'd like to know the parts
Speaker 4: a whole of how that piece of it slots in
Speaker 4: with the overall development as well.
Speaker 1: You know, what I was thinking too was it might
Speaker 1: be a place where, like you know, you have Tyson
Speaker 1: Bagent as like your primary.
Speaker 4: That's where yeah, if you're not asking him respectfully, like
Speaker 4: you're just not asking somebody who is your no if
Speaker 4: anything in age, like you're just not And so that's
Speaker 4: the thing. And this offense is supposed to help the quarterback.
Speaker 4: It's supposed to set up the quarterback for success. Under
Speaker 4: Ben Johnson, we know that by now, But what is
Speaker 4: the language, what is the base of the alphabet that
Speaker 4: you're installing with somebody who shows extreme superstar potential. But
Speaker 4: clearly the infrastructure behind the scenes was sorely lacking in
Speaker 4: I think ways if you look back at it, you
Speaker 4: could probably have predicted and some people did.
Speaker 3: But this year it has to be fixed top to bottom.
Speaker 4: It's why I've always said, you know that coming into
Speaker 4: this year, it does look like everything is finally going
Speaker 4: in the right direction for the Bears.
Speaker 3: But this is far beyond a roster problem.
Speaker 4: This was an infrastructure and process problem on the side
Speaker 4: of the coaching staff. And that's where Ben Johnson has
Speaker 4: to turn his attention with Caleb Williams this year.
Speaker 3: And I want to know what it is.
Speaker 1: I just remembered Case Keenum is now on.
Speaker 3: This roster, So it's smart move. Bring a veteran is right.
Speaker 2: They didn't really have the break the.
Speaker 4: Most veteran, a veteran, a veteran of veterans.
Speaker 1: He really is the ideal of like coach slash quarterback.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't surprise me if he becomes a coach. All right,
Speaker 1: I am gonna check in on a guy, and it's
Speaker 1: a guy who was taken in the top ten of
Speaker 1: the draft last year, who had a really important role,
Speaker 1: who didn't get a ton of attention, and there was
Speaker 1: enough issues that this offseason he is changing positions that
Speaker 1: his coach even said publicly that you know, he kind
Speaker 1: of learned what it meant to have to actually work
Speaker 1: at the NFL level at the level that you are
Speaker 1: doing it, which I think in a different market or
Speaker 1: a different setup, your eyes would be open. Chris Pavona
Speaker 1: in the back is just on the edge of a
Speaker 1: seat wondering who am I talking about? And it's not
Speaker 1: other than JC Latham, the tackle for the Titans, just
Speaker 1: a pick that I think got a little lost in
Speaker 1: the shuffle that they moved him from right tackle to
Speaker 1: left tackle. Now he's going back to right tackle. They
Speaker 1: gave Dan Moore a ton of money this off season,
Speaker 1: to maybe make help make Latham more comfortable on the
Speaker 1: right side and help really complete that offensive line. But
Speaker 1: there were some comments from Brian Callahan, the coach, last
Speaker 1: week that just opened my eyes a little bit, and
Speaker 1: it makes sense. He's a rookie tackle and what Callahan
Speaker 1: said in terms of needing to learn how to prepare
Speaker 1: and work, and that maybe in terms of what shape
Speaker 1: he was in and the habits and all that. By
Speaker 1: the end of the season he was taking on a
Speaker 1: little bit of water. And so to me, he's really important.
Speaker 1: He kind of symbolized is that offensive line to me
Speaker 1: because they're really important in front of kmoord And if
Speaker 1: if you're going to make like a scenario where Tennessee
Speaker 1: blows their over under wind total out of the water,
Speaker 1: I think it starts with, actually, this offensive line comes
Speaker 1: together and it's sneaky like a top eight offensive line
Speaker 1: under Brian Callahan and his dad, Bill Callahan, and I
Speaker 1: think there is a path for that happening.
Speaker 3: It's interesting.
Speaker 4: I want to trust the reputation of the coaches over
Speaker 4: there specifically, where as it pertains to the Callahans and
Speaker 4: that offensive line. It looks odd from the outside and
Speaker 4: it's a good person to check in on, a good
Speaker 4: guy to check on, because it looks odd and you
Speaker 4: really it's It makes you almost grimace when you think
Speaker 4: about flip flopping a tackle back and forth like that.
Speaker 4: But under these coaches, I don't give this group, this
Speaker 4: coaching staff, this franchise the benefit of the doubt in
Speaker 4: a lot of areas. But as it pertains to understanding
Speaker 4: how to develop and get the most out of offensive
Speaker 4: linemen over time, I have to kind of think they
Speaker 4: have a plan.
Speaker 1: It was the first pick, and that's why I point
Speaker 1: him out too. I also was to do this exercise.
Speaker 1: Here's how I started, like what teams have we not
Speaker 1: talked about much?
Speaker 3: I did that too, except we've talked about the Bears.
Speaker 2: We have talked about it.
Speaker 1: And I was like, actually, that's interesting, and I missed
Speaker 1: these comments from Callahan last week.
Speaker 2: I thought it was. It was interesting.
Speaker 1: He was the first pick of this Callahan era work.
Speaker 1: But the GM is no longer there. But Bill and
Speaker 1: Brian were there and he's an offensive lineman, so clearly
Speaker 1: they were on it.
Speaker 2: So it has to work.
Speaker 1: And while I was looking at Titans talk, I did
Speaker 1: just want to mention we're not going to fully check in.
Speaker 1: I did just want to mention Lugarious Sneed is still
Speaker 1: not fully practicing their huge pickup from a year ago,
Speaker 1: not only as a trade target where they gave up
Speaker 1: a third round pick, but also gave a really big contract.
Speaker 1: He is not only not practicing because he's still suffering
Speaker 1: from this knee that's being managed and then a thigh
Speaker 1: injury that mysterious kept him out most of the last season.
Speaker 1: He is also waiting to see in Texas if a
Speaker 1: grand jury indict to him on a felony charge of
Speaker 1: aggravated assault with a deadly weapon connected to an alleged
Speaker 1: shooting in which he was alleged to be a passenger.
Speaker 1: He is also being sued in a civil trial related
Speaker 1: to this case. I gotta admit I forgot or never
Speaker 1: even knew this had ever happened. It was in December
Speaker 1: that this original arrest happened. But this is a really
Speaker 1: key player, and I just kind of want to leave
Speaker 1: it there. But I did just want to let the
Speaker 1: listeners know, like this is an important player for the Titans,
Speaker 1: and so he's waiting to see and that could be
Speaker 1: obviously very important for him and important for the Titans.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the reason why we are talking about it now
Speaker 4: is because the process is ongoing. It's leaked into now
Speaker 4: the spring where you have to get your roster construction settled.
Speaker 4: You have to figure out who's available to you and
Speaker 4: who's not. And this process is still in resolve.
Speaker 1: And the fact that Brian Callahan said he's still you know,
Speaker 1: that's where the health part of it came up with
Speaker 1: that he's still dealing with the injuries and we hope
Speaker 1: to have him fully back, you know, by training camp
Speaker 1: and all. This is like, man, just something bni on.
Speaker 1: He will be on that roster because he is owed
Speaker 1: guaranteed money, but we will see how that goes.
Speaker 2: All right, give me another guy check in out.
Speaker 3: I want to check in on Matthew Golden.
Speaker 4: I think is going to be the Packers number one
Speaker 4: receiver by volume, specifically over the next season and beyond.
Speaker 4: And part of the reason I think that is because
Speaker 4: I harkened back to the last time I sat down
Speaker 4: with Matt Lafleur and he was going over Miami Dolphin's
Speaker 4: tape and he was watching their explosive plays specifically and
Speaker 4: how they got their speed players into space, how they
Speaker 4: used lots of motions, manipulated space using speed and pre
Speaker 4: snap and at snap trickeration and misdirection, and Matthew Golden
Speaker 4: has that type of speed that will absolutely be that
Speaker 4: type of player who could be that type of player
Speaker 4: that I think Matt Lafleur has been coveting for a
Speaker 4: long time. And the reason I also think that he's
Speaker 4: ready to step into this role and be sort of
Speaker 4: that guy as a brand as well is because he's
Speaker 4: already positioning as that. He volunteered to go to Jordan
Speaker 4: Love's soft charity softball game over this past week and
Speaker 4: like is doing media and is getting the second loudest
Speaker 4: ovation from the crowd according to my colleague Mat Schneidman
Speaker 4: over there, and like he's basically saying, like I'm his guy,
Speaker 4: you know. So I really do think that, you know,
Speaker 4: in all of the preseason posturing the marketing of what
Speaker 4: a number one really has to be, it's like the
Speaker 4: Packers sort of dipping their toe in the water of like, Okay,
Speaker 4: we're gonna forget all that stuff we said about not
Speaker 4: caring whether we have a number one or not, and
Speaker 4: our actions and his actions and Jordan Love's actions and
Speaker 4: our plan for this player will actually show you we're
Speaker 4: ready to step into a different time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm really interested to read the practice reports and
Speaker 1: they're some of the best in.
Speaker 2: The league from packs.
Speaker 3: They have a great beat.
Speaker 1: And they and they allow him to really cover football
Speaker 1: and Golden that's that's a classic move. Show up to
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks, you know, softball game, you get it.
Speaker 3: They said, he's my quarterback.
Speaker 1: Of course I will and I like that's an off
Speaker 1: and that is an off season trope for sure.
Speaker 4: It is a one like more secure feeling than releasing
Speaker 4: a statement about your number one staff.
Speaker 1: Yes, you are referring to a weird story we mentioned
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago where for some reason, Adam
Speaker 1: Schefter released a report that was essentially a statement from
Speaker 1: the Packers saying, hey, Jaden Reid yours. They met with
Speaker 1: Jayden Reid and they told him that he's still going
Speaker 1: to be their number one receiver.
Speaker 4: Was he at the softball But taking that into the context,
Speaker 4: this was the counter move, subtle counter move.
Speaker 3: I mean, I love it already. The chess that's.
Speaker 4: Happening over there in that Packers' receiver's room. I think
Speaker 4: that's going to be really fun. It's going to make
Speaker 4: everybody better.
Speaker 1: Okay, hopefully, hopefully everyone's on the same page. You know,
Speaker 1: that is that is something to be more real that
Speaker 1: when you have a really young team that's all growing
Speaker 1: up together, you can only all be equal for so long,
Speaker 1: you know, as you get close sort of that second
Speaker 1: contract and you know, keeping everyone on the same page
Speaker 1: as something to watch in Green Bay. Let's take a
Speaker 1: quick break and we will check in on some more
Speaker 1: guys after this. Back on NFL Daily, we were debating
Speaker 1: the break whether drinking out.
Speaker 2: Of a straw is infantalizing.
Speaker 1: I don't, especially out of those big water bottles.
Speaker 4: I don't believe drinking out of a straw is infantilizing.
Speaker 4: I do condone the use of reusable.
Speaker 3: Straws as opposed to plastic straws.
Speaker 4: Greg keeps delicately sipping out of his hydroflask as.
Speaker 1: We brand new gift. I think in the future, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm never use a straw yet. It's just doing it
Speaker 1: looks so ridiculous that I was trying to make you
Speaker 1: laugh while we were talking.
Speaker 2: It's may not a straw.
Speaker 4: Guy.
Speaker 1: If you're at like in and out and you're an
Speaker 1: adult and you get the top in the straw. I
Speaker 1: don't know, and it's you're drinking out of the water cup.
Speaker 2: Grow up.
Speaker 3: I feel like get reusable straws.
Speaker 4: My message to the audience, get use reusable straws, not plastic,
Speaker 4: and also clean them.
Speaker 2: People right, that supported that, I don't want to deal
Speaker 2: with that.
Speaker 3: To clean your bottle regularly.
Speaker 1: I'm down with washing this bottle regularly. I don't want
Speaker 1: to deal with the top. So I think this is
Speaker 1: going to be the first and last day the top.
Speaker 1: The top is there.
Speaker 2: Let's check in on George Payton.
Speaker 1: Hey, we don't hear from that the Broncos GM too often.
Speaker 1: He is the guy who's going to have to decide
Speaker 1: this offseason. And I was trying to think of who
Speaker 1: matters in the next two or three months, when frankly,
Speaker 1: not a ton matters other than you know, just staying healthy.
Speaker 1: Gms matter who have a lot of lingering potential contracts
Speaker 1: to handle. And when I was looking for like a
Speaker 1: team that fit this description for this exercise, I thought
Speaker 1: that the Broncos were at the top of the list.
Speaker 1: Here are the potential players that could get extensions from
Speaker 1: the Broncos entering the final year of their contract who
Speaker 1: right now are all quite high on my free agency list.
Speaker 1: Nick Benito, who literally got some defensive Player of the
Speaker 1: Year votes, Zach Allen, who's been one of the best
Speaker 1: free agent signings of the last handful of years, but
Speaker 1: it's getting a little older, but was an All Pro
Speaker 1: last year I believe, second team, and then Courtland Sutton
Speaker 1: maybe he's in the.
Speaker 2: Last year of his contract.
Speaker 1: There's a couple other guys on the team that just
Speaker 1: because you're going to have to rank him, I think
Speaker 1: our further down list. Jonathan Franklin Myers was vocal about
Speaker 1: saying he wanted an extension. I just can't imagine that
Speaker 1: would come before those other guys. And so that's a
Speaker 1: lot of players. There's a couple others. Alex Singleton, So
Speaker 1: does George Peyton just checking in on him? Where does
Speaker 1: he prioritize all those guys? Just something to watch, I
Speaker 1: think in terms of their team building in the next
Speaker 1: couple of months.
Speaker 4: You know, I think the fascinating thing about George Peyton
Speaker 4: is is that he construct He was like the architect.
Speaker 3: Maybe not so much the person who was.
Speaker 4: Saying that this was his A plus plan, but he
Speaker 4: was basically the architect of the all in off season
Speaker 4: that the Broncos had in twenty twenty two, where they
Speaker 4: basically did the FM pix model of trading picks for players.
Speaker 4: In this case, it was an absolute disaster with ye
Speaker 4: Wilson contract than Nathaniel Hackett hiring and then it's and
Speaker 4: to me, it's incredible that he not only weathered that storm,
Speaker 4: but it speaks to when you hire the right head coach,
Speaker 4: when you really nail certain elements of the draft, when
Speaker 4: you pick the right veteran free agents, when you also
Speaker 4: continue to develop in house. Because that coach brings over
Speaker 4: a really solid coaching staff, I think there's microcosms of
Speaker 4: that all over the roster. It's also Sean Payton making
Speaker 4: sure that even after an initially bad start to the defense,
Speaker 4: that he retained that coaching staff to be what it is.
Speaker 4: I think that there's lessons and patience all over that team.
Speaker 4: And I like that we're checking in on George Payton
Speaker 4: because hey, he's.
Speaker 3: Still here, right and.
Speaker 1: It's a lesson in who keeps jobs and who doesn't
Speaker 1: in the NFL. To me, you have to at that
Speaker 1: point go along to kind of get along with Sean
Speaker 1: Payton and understand obviously he is the most important person
Speaker 1: in the building when he arrives, but he's also the
Speaker 1: most important personnel wise and figuring out how best essentially
Speaker 1: to serve Sean Payton to the point that Sean Payton
Speaker 1: wants to keep you. And I'm sure ownership had a
Speaker 1: big part in that too. But now it's lasted and
Speaker 1: it's worked the last couple of years. So I'll be
Speaker 1: interested because Benito to me is on paper he is
Speaker 1: worth a big new contract. But is he really like
Speaker 1: close to the top shelf of pass rushers.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Zach Allen actually is, but he's thirty, it's his third contract,
Speaker 1: and Courtland Sutton's a tricky one, So just interest.
Speaker 2: I don't really have any big.
Speaker 4: Coals training the league though, Especially the size and the
Speaker 4: speed and the catch ratius of Courtland Sutton. How many
Speaker 4: people were so high on him coming out from the draft.
Speaker 4: There's enough front offices around the league that would be
Speaker 4: probably willing to hand him a strong contract, no question.
Speaker 4: There's also with Nick Benito, you're paying for long term potential.
Speaker 4: He's an ascending, very much an ascending player. When you
Speaker 4: see a pass Rusher start to pop at his age
Speaker 4: and do so in a big way. You're only scratching
Speaker 4: the surface in the minds of some of these teams,
Speaker 4: and that's why I think they should pay him early,
Speaker 4: because they'll I think both of them will have competitive
Speaker 4: market Zach Zach Allen. You know, thirty one teams would
Speaker 4: love to have that guy too, So.
Speaker 1: All three of them, really it's just figuring out the
Speaker 1: right price. And so I'll be interested in that because yes,
Speaker 1: Sutton and Allen are going to be thirty when they
Speaker 1: sign that contract. Sutton, I think turns it during the season,
Speaker 1: so technically not but like a guy who you know
Speaker 1: is trying to get another contract while we're while we're here.
Speaker 1: By the way, I was thinking about checking in on
Speaker 1: Bonix just because we haven't talked about Bonix and I
Speaker 1: didn't really have anything that interesting to say about him.
Speaker 1: But I did learn that he had an awesome first
Speaker 1: pitch at the Colorado Rockies game this year, So if
Speaker 1: you're watching on YouTube, you can see it that the
Speaker 1: Rockies the jerseys are great, are nine and forty five
Speaker 1: this year, so one of the worst teams in all
Speaker 1: of sports. But when bo Nicks showed up and throw
Speaker 1: wow strike like an actual good pitch.
Speaker 3: That pitch was barreled and pitted.
Speaker 1: He inspired them enough to get the w over the
Speaker 1: Yankees that game. So they're one to zero when bow
Speaker 1: Knicks is there.
Speaker 4: He's just sitting there right now. He's like whispering too
Speaker 4: it can we sign you?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 3: What can we bring you in here?
Speaker 1: Shout out to the hat that bo Nix is wearing,
Speaker 1: which is part of a trend the nineties, big lettering
Speaker 1: print hatch I was wearing back in the day are
Speaker 1: kind of back in style. So everything comes around and again,
Speaker 1: let's go check in on another guy.
Speaker 2: Good job by Bo Nicks.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's check in on a guy who we really
Speaker 4: haven't talked about at all except for when he made
Speaker 4: the transition into offensive coordinator for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Speaker 4: Let's talk about Josh Grizzard. We talked about him with
Speaker 4: Jason light Gizzard.
Speaker 3: We're checking on some guys.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 4: So he's actually in the rare case of bucks Otia's
Speaker 4: begin on Tuesday. We're obviously recording at that time, and
Speaker 4: they have no Chris Godwin because the injury recovery.
Speaker 3: Now they're going to.
Speaker 4: Install and carry forward this offense in the passing game,
Speaker 4: it's already pretty well constructed with Emika Buca in the
Speaker 4: mix as well. This is one of the rare cases
Speaker 4: of one of the youngest offensive coordinators in the league's
Speaker 4: just thirty four, who is taking over a roster that
Speaker 4: is not just built to win right now, and offense
Speaker 4: specifically that is built to win right now, but also
Speaker 4: one that Baker Mayfield really pushed to have continuity within
Speaker 4: because he's lost two coordinators in respective years, and Josh
Speaker 4: Gizzard was like his guy that he was pushing where
Speaker 4: Jason like told us this when we sat down with
Speaker 4: him at the NFL combine earlier this season. And I
Speaker 4: think that this is super interesting because he's got some
Speaker 4: of the best tools in the NFL to work with
Speaker 4: in terms of a really under talked about offensive line,
Speaker 4: one of the best in the league, in a sending
Speaker 4: run game with Bucky Irvin, a really solid time ends group,
Speaker 4: Kate Auton leading the way on that, and then one
Speaker 4: of the best receiving corps in the NFL. And I
Speaker 4: think that, you know, the sky could be the limit
Speaker 4: for this offense. But what I really wanted to check
Speaker 4: in on with Josh Grizzard because his last name makes
Speaker 4: me laugh. And I mean no disrespect by that, but
Speaker 4: every time I hear it, it makes me laugh. Yeah,
Speaker 4: Doublez's funny, especially because he's from a place called Lizard
Speaker 4: Lick Wow, North Carolina. And do you know when you
Speaker 4: look up Lizard Lick, North Carolina, the list of notable
Speaker 4: people from that town has one name on it. Can
Speaker 4: you guess whose name it is?
Speaker 2: Josh Grizzards.
Speaker 4: Yes, And so when I hear Josh Grizzard from Lizard Lick,
Speaker 4: North Carolina, I think of the Australian psychedelic band King
Speaker 4: Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard. And I don't know why
Speaker 4: my brain does this, Greg, but that's what my brain does,
Speaker 4: and I wanted to share that with you today.
Speaker 1: Well, I think we should forevermore refer to him as
Speaker 1: Josh Grizzard from Lizard Lick, if nothing else.
Speaker 4: Josh Grizzard from Lizard Lick, hopefully a fan of King
Speaker 4: Gizzard and the Lizard.
Speaker 1: You could have led with that you didn't have to
Speaker 1: go through the whole spiel to feel like you had
Speaker 1: to justify it.
Speaker 2: That alone was worth.
Speaker 3: Checking on checking on checking on some guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's it's a big off season if they
Speaker 1: don't if they don't deliver, he's gonna get blamed because
Speaker 1: everything else kind of.
Speaker 3: Looks now you never forget his name.
Speaker 1: No, Josh Gizzard from Lizard Look. I viewed this exercise
Speaker 1: too as like a oh, yeah, remember remember him. It's
Speaker 1: just a random shout. I just wanted people to kind
Speaker 1: of remember. There's a gentleman by the name of Patrick Paul,
Speaker 1: and he was drafted in the second round by the
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins last year, and he is one of the
Speaker 1: most important players on their entire roster. He has their
Speaker 1: left tackle. Yeah, he is replacing toront Armstead. When Toront
Speaker 1: arms had decided to retire Chris Greer, their GM immediately said,
Speaker 1: we already have our left tackle the future. It's Patrick Paul.
Speaker 1: He's going to be our left tackle. I should check this.
Speaker 1: I believe he said that before the draft, like he
Speaker 1: was just like putting that out there. Patrick Paul as
Speaker 1: his man. So it's just just a guy I wanted
Speaker 1: to check on that. I know it's not two it blindside. Technically,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. The two tackle positions are equally important.
Speaker 1: We've learned this. He is vitally important to this Miami
Speaker 1: Dolphins team. Just checking in on Patrick Paul.
Speaker 4: Yes, two guys that I want to check it in
Speaker 4: on simultaneously, Garrett Wilson and Sauce Gardner. I mean, like,
Speaker 4: can we just talk really quick though about how the
Speaker 4: Jets have seemed to do everything right this offseason so far.
Speaker 3: Not only did they shut down the.
Speaker 4: Rogers situation very very quickly and with authority, but also
Speaker 4: they have some buy in from their players. Some disgruntled
Speaker 4: tweets from players like Quinn Williams disappointed at the concept
Speaker 4: of another rebuild, like he took that back. As OTAs
Speaker 4: began this last week, Garrett Wilson went from being grumpy
Speaker 4: and rightfully so last season to basically saying that he
Speaker 4: wants to be a Jet for life.
Speaker 3: I think we have the audio of that.
Speaker 4: Eric.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm hope for I'm a Jet for life,
Speaker 5: and now we get this thing and that we uh,
Speaker 5: you know that all of our best days are ahead
Speaker 5: of us. You know, I don't know exactly what that
Speaker 5: looks like, but I'm going to go do my part
Speaker 5: to make sure that you know that it's inevitab not inevitable.
Speaker 5: It's the word I'm looking for. Undeniable. You know, when
Speaker 5: the time does come and those conversations are being had,
Speaker 5: you know, I'm gonna try and do my part to
Speaker 5: make sure that it's undeniable.
Speaker 4: And I love that, And I also love that the
Speaker 4: Jets have been very clear about some of the steps
Speaker 4: in the process with some of their former first round picks.
Speaker 4: Sauce Gardner and Garrett Wilson's fifth year options were both
Speaker 4: picked up earlier this year, so was Jermaine Johnson's. The
Speaker 4: reason I bring this up this early in this in
Speaker 4: the off season is I think there's a very real
Speaker 4: scenario and a very real possibility that both players get
Speaker 4: contract extensions before training camp starts, certainly before the season starts.
Speaker 4: And I think showing up to OTA's which sauce Gardner
Speaker 4: did as well, despite the fact that they are both
Speaker 4: due for contract extensions from a team that did not
Speaker 4: draft them, notably, is good faith.
Speaker 3: It shows good faith.
Speaker 4: It shows by and it shows Aaron Glenn has got
Speaker 4: the juice like we've talked about before. But to me,
Speaker 4: it also shows that the process is being set in
Speaker 4: motion to eventually come to terms with these two, and
Speaker 4: I think the smart thing, and they've made smart decisions
Speaker 4: all season, is to get at least two of these
Speaker 4: done Garrett Wilson and Sauce Gardner before the season starts.
Speaker 1: One hundred OTA attendance for the Jets, and yet they
Speaker 1: have plenty of cap space. You can make it happen. Now,
Speaker 1: spend spend your cash. Now be interesting because do you
Speaker 1: prioritize one over the other?
Speaker 2: Which one would that be?
Speaker 1: Man Sauce Gardner has a case to be the highest
Speaker 1: paid cornerback in the league. You're kind of looking at
Speaker 1: Stingley's contract who he was drafted, you know, one pick
Speaker 1: after right, and you're basically looking at that and adding
Speaker 1: a little on top of that. So it will be
Speaker 1: interesting the timing. Who knows, that's one you know, because
Speaker 1: of the fifth year option. They might play it out
Speaker 1: and it's something that happens like in week three, week four,
Speaker 1: even it's during the season. But I think that would
Speaker 1: be a great sign for the Jets if they do that,
Speaker 1: and wouldn't it wouldn't be surprising. Garrett Wilson is going
Speaker 1: to get a wide receiver contract near the top of
Speaker 1: the market.
Speaker 4: Reconsecutive one thousand yard plus seasons despite all of the
Speaker 4: chaos and mess that's over there.
Speaker 3: I mean, these are two guys.
Speaker 4: We always talk about how smart the Eagles are for
Speaker 4: extending their guys early, and know they didn't Darren Moogi
Speaker 4: did not draft these two.
Speaker 3: They're players you want in the building.
Speaker 2: Yes, and.
Speaker 1: It might be a great person Garrett Wilson, especially to
Speaker 1: reward before they run the ball like forty eight times
Speaker 1: a game. And Garrett Wilson is a clear number one,
Speaker 1: drying a lot of double teams and being very valuable
Speaker 1: as he quote unquote only gets like one thousand and
Speaker 1: seventy yards or something like that, and you want him
Speaker 1: totally on board with that, I would do that. I'm
Speaker 1: going to check in on Sam Laporta just because, like, hey,
Speaker 1: remember Sam Laporta. Not that he's been that under the radar,
Speaker 1: but I just like last year fantasy wise, people were
Speaker 1: a little disappointed, and he did turn it on late
Speaker 1: in the season. He just had like a little quieter role.
Speaker 1: He still became the first tight end in history, and
Speaker 1: this is with six hundred yards and six receiving touchdowns
Speaker 1: in each of his first two seasons. So that that's
Speaker 1: like slicing up the numbers. I'm annoyed when people do that,
Speaker 1: and I just did that. But still you get the
Speaker 1: point that he's been extremely productive.
Speaker 2: Another one, and I like this one better.
Speaker 1: Total of fifteen hundred receiving yards and fifteen receiving touchdowns
Speaker 1: in your first two seasons, one of only four tight
Speaker 1: ends to ever do that. So he's produced at a
Speaker 1: really high level. He spoke last week and he said
Speaker 1: some things, but mostly I just wanted to view this
Speaker 1: glorious mustache again in HD.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 7: Every year we feel we feel like there's unfinished business.
Speaker 7: We know that we have the players to go out
Speaker 7: and win win games and the biggest ones as well,
Speaker 7: so unfinished business of course.
Speaker 1: And yeah, he seems supremely uncomfortable, and just with the
Speaker 1: rest of the press conference. There's a couple other like
Speaker 1: coach speak type of things. He's just like trying to
Speaker 1: say the right thing. Was like, no one's grilling him
Speaker 1: or anything. Your mouth is a gape.
Speaker 3: I'm speechless by the mustag. I mean, it caught me
Speaker 3: so off guard.
Speaker 4: I mean it just it is, it is its own
Speaker 4: living entity on his face.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: He he pulls it off. He could be Okay, it's
Speaker 1: like a science.
Speaker 3: Doesn't it look like Dan Campbell to you in this freeze.
Speaker 2: A little bit right here?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can pull that off when you are the
Speaker 1: size of Samuelporta. Also, he's not coming off in ankle surgery.
Speaker 1: He missed almost all of last last off season. He
Speaker 1: noted that, like, this is my first normal off season
Speaker 1: in three years. Because he's not coming off in ankle surgery,
Speaker 1: he's not preparing for the combine in the draft, so
Speaker 1: I think we might see even better Samiloporta.
Speaker 2: Do you want to check it out on any guys
Speaker 2: or you're good?
Speaker 4: I'm I'd like to wellness check on my brain right
Speaker 4: now it's broken. After he's got to be careful. He's
Speaker 4: gonna start getting called Yosemite, sam Laporta, Hey, the mustache
Speaker 4: of all mustaches.
Speaker 1: We will be back later this week and we're gonna
Speaker 1: hit even more ot stuff.
Speaker 3: Thanks Eric.
Speaker 8: She always delivers them so quick, I can't get the sound,
Speaker 8: and then it goes by and almost I'm just gonna
Speaker 8: start dropping them, even if it's ten seconds later. She's
Speaker 8: always got these one liners, and I'm upset. Now we
Speaker 8: don't give them enough shine.
Speaker 1: So I see these indirect shots at me for not
Speaker 1: not selling the joke enough.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, you don't kind of leave me twisting in
Speaker 4: the wind often, Greg, I gotta say it.
Speaker 3: It does.
Speaker 2: Uh, we'll just have better jokes then.
Speaker 3: It does make me better. Truly.
Speaker 2: It's a bad job, bad job, baby. Let's wrap this
Speaker 2: thing up. We will be back. We're gonna go over
Speaker 2: all the OTA stuff this week. You gotta do some
Speaker 2: more rankings. We've got Patrick claybaon in the mix.
Speaker 3: Soon, We're gonna check on more guys.
Speaker 1: It's like I was gonna the Jaguars cornerback two battle,
Speaker 1: and it's like we get to save that.
Speaker 2: Got a whole offseason to go. All these teams on
Speaker 2: the field this week. Football's back.