WEBVTT - MFM Minisode 483 0:00:16.600 --> 0:00:20.759 Hello, and welcome to my favorite murder the miniss Right, 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:23.480 that's my line, I can say it, you. 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:25.960 Got it, I did fine, you did it. I'm proud 0:00:25.960 --> 0:00:26.920 of you line. 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:30.840 Then the minisod and it's a very special minisod. We've 0:00:30.880 --> 0:00:35.040 just announced that we are bringing the wonderful podcast Disgraceland 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:36.680 onto the Exactly Right Network. 0:00:36.720 --> 0:00:40.240 We are so excited. Jake Brennan is finally here, joining 0:00:40.320 --> 0:00:43.880 our Marvel universe with us. That's right, and Disgraceland and 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:47.280 Hollywood Land to amazing podcasts. Most of you probably have 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:51.080 listened to them. They've been around forever. They're amazing. But 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:52.640 now they're here with us. 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:53.519 Jake's here with us. 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:54.360 We're so excited. 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:56.240 So we're going to read you some hometowns that have 0:00:56.320 --> 0:00:59.600 to do with like the music world, just to kind 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:01.640 of give it the little homage to Disgraceland. 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:05.919 Yeah it Disgraceland is about musicians behaving badly in criminal ways, 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:08.520 and Hollywood Land of courses about celebrities doing the same. 0:01:08.720 --> 0:01:11.560 So we picked some stories to reference that. 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:13.600 Yeah you want to go first, sure, Okay, We're starting 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:16.399 off strong with a hardcore true crime story. 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:18.560 Yeah, hello, Murderino Sisters. 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:21.720 Here it is taking all of our willpower not to 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:24.080 fangirl over the mere thought of you reading our email, 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:24.440 So we. 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:26.440 Will try our hardest to cut to the chase. 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:31.000 Our sister got married this summer in our hometown of Lancaster, Pennsylvania. 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:34.679 Imagine a year filled with the flurry of bridesmaiding events 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:38.399 and group texting leading up to our sister's big day. Finally, 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:41.399 after a stunning wedding, it was party time. We were 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:44.640 excited that our sister hired a local celebrity named DJ 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:49.040 Freeze to host her reception. Think famous like every childhood 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:52.240 school carnival, every high school dance house, DJ to or 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:56.680 Grimy eighteen and up nightclubs famous. At the reception, the 0:01:56.680 --> 0:01:59.200 bridal party toasts and the speeches drew on and on. 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:01.760 We snuck out to find the wedding coordinators and discussed 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:03.920 adding an hour to our venue contracts so we could 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:06.320 have more party time because the speeches went so long. 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:09.280 Really, nobody wants that so boring? 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:10.560 Who cares? 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:11.200 Nobody cares? 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:12.800 Talk about it privately, please. 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:15.440 We had to talk separately to our boy, DJ Freese 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:18.440 since he was on a separate contract. What I thought 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:20.720 started as a schmoozy, Hey, what would it take for 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:24.160 you to work an extra hour? Conversations soon went downhill. 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:28.520 DJ Freeze was dramatically offended by my cash offer and 0:02:28.600 --> 0:02:31.880 threatened to tell the bride and groom. Luckily we were 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:33.800 able to save the day, but it turned into me 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:37.840 slapping too many hundred dollars bills into Freeze's hand and 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:43.600 telling him your music sucks like the immature adult I am. Luckily, 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:45.440 the party went off without a hitch, and our sister 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:49.480 never knew what a dB DJ Freeze was to us. 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:53.480 Thirty six hours later, our phones illuminate to a flurry 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:56.880 of group texts. What could the bridesmaids possibly have left 0:02:56.919 --> 0:03:02.160 to discuss? Well, apparently murder h that Monday morning. I 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:05.240 fucking remember this happening. Really that Monday morning. The headline 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:09.120 read cold case cracked. Suspect arrested in connection to nineteen 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:13.440 ninety two murder of Christi Mihrak rewind to Lancaster, Pennsylvania, 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:16.520 December nineteen ninety two. Christy Mihrack is a twenty four 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:19.280 year old elementary school teacher who lived in the apartments 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:22.360 about one point five miles from her childhood home in 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:24.840 the same complex. As many of our friends, she had 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:27.400 a classroom of students awaiting her arrival to school. 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:29.480 On that last day before the holiday. 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:32.400 Break, the school principal discovered her body as he visited 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:35.000 her apartment after many phone calls went unanswered. 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:37.360 She was twenty twenty four, so sad. 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:39.600 She had wrapped a book for each student as a 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:42.240 Christmas present, and the gifts were found scattered around the 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:44.960 room where her body was found. After thousands of tips 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:47.880 came in and interviews were conducted, the investigators were left 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:51.840 without any leads and ultimately the case went cold. Christie's 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:54.000 family continued to fight to keep her story in the 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:57.520 forefront of our community. They used to have billboards along 0:03:57.560 --> 0:04:00.400 the freeway begging our community to continue to come with 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:04.560 any leads. Then, in May twenty eighteen, twenty five years later, 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:07.440 the case was cracked wide open thanks to our new 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:11.920 favorite crime solving method, ancestry DNA oh Wow. This break 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:14.320 came less than two months after the Golden State killer 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:18.240 conviction using ancestry DNA, and it is our understanding that 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:20.560 at this time this was only the second case in 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:22.839 the United States that has been solved. 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:23.440 Using this method. 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:24.440 Wow. 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:27.560 Within only two days of receiving those ancestry DNA results 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:31.280 and conducting interviews in Lancaster, investigators were able to locate 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:35.440 their only suspect, now forty nine year old Raymond Row 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:41.760 aka DJ Freeze. Once Raymond Row was identified as her 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:45.560 suspect in May twenty eighteen, undercover agents surveiled him almost 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:49.599 immediately at an elementary school carnival in Lancaster where he 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:53.000 was working a DJ gig. The agents were covered chewing 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:55.440 gum and a water bottle that Raymond Row had discarded 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:58.400 in the trash. DNA tests on these items soon proved 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:01.080 that he, in fact was a match to the mystery 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:05.200 DNA found on in and under Christie Merak's body twenty 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:06.159 five years before. 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:06.600 Wow. 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:09.440 This break in the case emerged for the investigators just 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:12.800 hours before Raymond Row showed up to DJ our sister's wedding. 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:15.200 No wait, did he know? 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:15.919 No? 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:18.560 Oh, so that was like the cops knew, but he 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:19.560 hadn't been Yeah. 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:22.640 Oh, I think after Raymond Roe was arrested less than 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:23.960 two days after the wedding. 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:26.159 Yeah, yeah, he would have known. 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:28.920 It has not been determined if or how Raymond Row 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:32.240 knew Christy Mehrak before murdering her. He lived in the 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:34.480 same town, just miles from the crime scene for more 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:38.240 years following the murder than Christy Mehrak lived her life 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:39.240 in its entirety. 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:42.080 Isn't that the creepy thing, Like same thing with the 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:44.520 Golden State Killer, where they just sit in their own 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:47.560 neighborhood and just their living regular life. 0:05:47.839 --> 0:05:49.039 It's baffling. 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:52.760 It's so upsetting, and it's so like, yeah, I'm fair 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:54.200 hiding and plant siet. 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:54.640 Yeah. 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:57.120 Police arrested him at his home without incident and he 0:05:57.200 --> 0:06:00.000 is currently being held without bond in the Lancaster County Jail. 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:04.280 Well he awaits trial SSDGMAA. 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:04.640 Wow, I know. 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:07.839 And so this email was actually sent in October twenty six, 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:11.200 twenty eighteen. Oh so a long time ago. Yeah, some updates. 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:14.880 The story is still unfolding. But Raymond Rowe DJ Freeze 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:17.680 pleaded guilty in January twenty nineteen, but less than a 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:21.479 year later he began appealing his conviction. And this is 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:25.080 from Lancaster Online. Rote testified at an August twenty twenty 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:28.760 one hearing that he and Marrak had a secret relationship 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:31.560 and the day she was killed, he said they had 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:34.720 consensual sex and she was alive when he left the townhouse. 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:36.160 And so he's appealing his. 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:39.839 Latest loss in a bid to have DNA testing done 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:41.920 on other items at the scene. 0:06:42.080 --> 0:06:43.040 So that's the update. 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:46.280 Wow, slowly but surely you're going to convert me to 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:49.479 liking cold cases, because when you start an email like 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:52.320 that and people start telling that story where it's like, 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:54.719 please tell me that they found it, Please tell me 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:55.320 that it's over. 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:57.800 I know, and there was like less than nothing as 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:00.320 far as evidence goes back, you know that they had 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:03.560 as he wasn't a suspect. I don't think he was 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:06.320 just nobody in her life. Yeah, so the fact that 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:10.120 they found him is just purely because of DNA and 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:12.080 investigative research. 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:13.280 Yeah, the cold case heam. 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:14.040 Wow. 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:18.720 Okay, this is also you know, true crimey, but definitely 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:21.680 a different direction. The subject line of this email is 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:24.640 I almost got fired for refusing to serve R Kelly 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:28.600 and one of the it's a great email that has 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:32.520 a lot of interesting tidbits in it. But also Jake 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:36.640 covered R Kelly on Disgraceland his episode one seventy nine 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:39.440 June of twenty twenty four, and the title is R 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:42.840 Kelly Superstars Super predators and a twenty year reign of 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:47.280 sexual terror. Wow. So if you have not heard Disgraceland's 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:52.119 coverage of the R. Kelly You Know journey, I guess 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:55.000 we could call it episode one seventy nine. Go listen 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:58.800 to that. It's episode one seventy nine. So this email starts, Hello, all, 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:01.360 I've been in the fire. I'm dining service industry for 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:05.280 almost sixteen years. Naturally, many celebrities have dined at establishments 0:08:05.280 --> 0:08:08.000 that I've worked at. I won't name names, but just 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:11.840 note that Patty Smith is a sweetheart and just to 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:15.600 now double plow, just Gracelind has an episode that's all 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:18.440 about Patty Smith. It came out April seventh, so you 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:21.240 can go listen to it now. Wow, he does it all. Okay, 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:23.560 So back in July of twenty nineteen, I was working 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:25.960 in the Gold Coast of Chicago in what they call 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:29.880 the Viagra Triangle, which is essentially where rich old men 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:31.120 bring their mistress out. 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:34.359 Oh my god, gross shower. 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:38.760 It's a bleach bath. Please. So it says R. Kelly 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:41.120 and his group of lawyers came in to dine in 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:45.000 my section. His bodyguard or manager had overheard the conversation 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:47.360 I had with a matre D about my refusal to 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:50.000 wait on a fucking predator and blue up on me. 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:50.920 Good for you. 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:54.800 He said something along the line of everybody's got to eat, 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:57.160 to which I replied, if I ran a bodega, I 0:08:57.160 --> 0:09:01.320 wouldn't sell him ramen noodles. Let's not bring Rochmond middles 0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:04.160 in it, and they're just as good as any fucking 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:08.080 steak and bodegas. The matre d told me to go 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:11.520 outside and cool off. What a classic matre D move. 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:12.480 Go cool off? 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:15.400 Okay, how about you, coola, Needless to say, Yet another 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:18.599 employee serve the table. Also in my section was a 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:21.760 group of men who had repeatedly asked to take pictures 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:25.040 with him. The undistinguished mister Kelly refused photos due to 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:27.920 bad press at the time, but instead decided to pick 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:30.480 up their check because he knew I was their waiter 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:32.920 and it would be an excuse for me to approach 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:35.960 him again after the scene that was made earlier. Dude, 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:38.480 I handed him the check to sign, which he did, 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:40.440 but he had written a zero on the tip line. 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:43.080 I opened the book, holding the check in front of him, 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:45.720 saw that he had stiffed me, laughed and said, yeah, 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:49.160 that sounds about right, and walked away. His entourage complained 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:51.240 to management about my behavior to a point where I 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:54.120 was almost fired, and they waited outside the restaurant and 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:58.000 followed me to the train, calling me multiple derogatory terms 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:01.040 the pinnacle of class. Though I no longer work at 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:03.560 this establishment, and I highly doubt he listens to your 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:06.040 show in prison, I relish the fact that this story 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:08.800 helped me have a dialogue with my wonderful girlfriend I 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:11.920 met only a few days before. This incident drew us 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:14.640 closer together. She introduced me to your show, and when 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:16.680 we go on road trips, one of us always ask 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:19.720 the question, you want to listen to the girls? Thank 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:21.720 you both for all you do, stay sexy, and please 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:25.920 remember that tipping twenty percent is bare minimum. Yes, sincerely, Hayden. 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:28.920 Wow, Hayden, Hayden. 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:31.319 Standing up fighting the good fight all alone. 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:35.400 Appreciate you. That's fucking awesome. Yeah, twenty two percent is 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:36.720 my minimum now. 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:39.719 I mean yeah, Yet, Also, the excuse everyone's got to 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:40.719 eat is disgusting. 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:44.800 Come on, seriously, I have one more? Where are you going? 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:45.080 All right? 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:45.280 Two? 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:45.520 More? 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:47.800 Yeah? No? No, I sorry, I was not going anywhere. 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:49.840 I just tell you to see what I was doing. 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:55.360 David Bowie's a rest story in Rochester, New York. 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:55.600 Oo. 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:58.880 And so David Bowie was covered in disgrace Land on 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:00.439 episode seventy one. 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:01.439 So check that out. 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:05.120 It's called David Bowie, the Occult, Cocaine, Orgi's arrests, exorcism, 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:08.520 a weird flirtation with fascism, and a dead body. That's 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:09.680 the Disgraceline episode. 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:12.400 It's so good. Yeah, I listened to that whole thing 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:12.960 and it's great. 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:17.040 And you know David Bowie's mugshot, right, you've seen that everyone. 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:21.320 He was only snorting cocaine and eating red peppers at 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:23.280 the time, like that was his diet, that was his thing. 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:26.160 Hi, Georgia and Karen, I'm originally from India, but I've 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:28.560 been living in Rochester, New York for four years now. 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:32.320 What a weird switch to go from India to Rochester, 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:33.640 New Upstate New York. 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:37.160 A little bit chillier, I would say, in upstate remark. 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:39.760 The city has a lot of history, home of Susan B. Anthony, 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:43.080 Frederick Douglass began publishing the north Star newspaper here, and 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:46.720 of course George Eastman but after the demise of Kodak, 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:49.400 nothing exciting has really happened here today. 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:50.760 I was looking through a local. 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:54.760 Boutique I want to say, Bouquet so bad and found 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:58.439 a wallprint of David Bowie's mugshot dated March twenty fifth, 0:11:58.520 --> 0:11:59.560 nineteen seventy six. 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:01.280 Had to google the backstory. 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:04.840 Back in the day, famous people held concerts here must 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:07.880 be nice. Bowie performed at the Community War Memorial and 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:11.200 headed back to his hotel room for general merriment. With 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:15.400 him was his bodyguard, Iggy Pop, and three girls, one 0:12:15.400 --> 0:12:17.400 of whom was a local he had taken a fancy 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:18.440 to during the concert. 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:21.439 Iggy Pop and David Bowie together, We're just. 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:24.480 Going to go hang out at the at the Higott. 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:27.120 Zero percent body fat. Let's just do so much cocaine. 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:29.760 One hundred percent cocaine, zero percent body fat, so many 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:31.000 red peppers. 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:33.720 As they were hanging out, three police officers showed up 0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:35.960 at the door. Bowie opened the door and was instantly 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:38.840 knocked backwards by the officers trying to get in. The 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:41.720 entire party was busted for possession of half a pound 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:44.640 of marijuana. Turns out, two of the girls present at 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:48.040 the party were undercover, acting on a tip that they 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:51.120 would find cocaine in his hotel room, and police had 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:53.280 set up shop in the adjacent room, listening through the 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:55.040 wall using a stethoscope. 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:59.560 The fuck come on, Rochester, bring reggae please. We thought 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:00.640 you were good than that. 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:03.040 When one of the girls asked where she could score some, 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:06.240 which is entrapmentt for sure, it was reason enough for 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:10.199 them to barge in Guys Enjoy. Although no cocaine, there 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:13.760 was ample marijuana to make the arrest. Bowie and company 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:16.040 were held in Monroe County jail for a few hours, 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:18.840 but let go on a two thousand dollars bail each 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:21.320 so that he could drive on to his next concert location. 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:24.360 Apparently Bowie was afraid of flying. After his American tour, 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:27.959 he went back to England on a boat. Oh shit anyway. 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:30.440 In May nineteen seventy six, the charges were dismissed after 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:33.160 a grand jury declined to indict Bowie because they're not 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:36.080 fucking narks. At the time of his initial hearing, a 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:38.720 reporter had asked you if he had any sour feelings 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:42.280 about returning to Rochester after the arrest, to which Bowie 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:46.600 had replied, certainly, not absolutely not, needless to say, he 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:48.520 never performed in Rochester again. 0:13:48.600 --> 0:13:50.679 Of course, stay sexy. 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:54.560 And only reveal your stash to the trusted sale pronounced sale, 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:55.160 she her. 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:58.760 I mean, such a good story. Yeah, I'm sure they 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:02.199 did that to anybody that coming through town for whose 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:04.959 hair was like longer than her chin, who. 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:08.160 Was like a feminine man. Yeah. 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:11.040 Yeah, that crazy, those crazy rock and roll boys. I 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:13.520 told you that. My dad and I one holiday break, 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:16.480 we're watching the Bowie documentary and I just kind of 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:18.680 flipped it on and left it there, and he he 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:20.480 was flipping around. He left it there, and then I 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:23.120 was like, he's not turning it, so I was just 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:25.760 staying quiet and watching it with him. And he watched 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:28.000 it for like a half an hour, through all these 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:32.080 crazy stories and performances, and then he in one shot 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:35.280 he's walking on stage barefoot, and my dad goes, oh, 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:38.520 he's barefoot and changes the channel. That's what gets him off. 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:40.680 The bar foot was barefoot to live it. 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:45.160 Too far, dropping acid, dressing like a spider from Mars, 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:47.560 none of it. It's all fine with Jim. 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:50.520 He can't he just can't tolerate bare feet. 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:53.000 Oh look at this, I mean I think it's gross, 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:56.840 but you're on board. Okay, Well, now that we're in 0:14:57.480 --> 0:14:59.960 true rock and roll worlds and I'm not going to 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:01.920 read to the subject line, and I'll tell you about 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:04.360 the disgrace lined episode that this connects to a can't 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:07.240 This just starts. When I was a very punk rock 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:09.760 teenager in Boston in the late nineties, I worked at 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:12.720 a fancy punk goth clothing store on Newberry Street. We 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:15.360 worked on commission, and whoever greeted the customer first was 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:19.120 their salesperson throughout and got the sale. One day, the 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:21.680 store was empty on a Friday afternoon, and this middle 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:24.160 aged couple came in. They weren't in my section, but 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:26.480 after fifteen minutes, no one had gone to help, and 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:28.600 the man was holding a bunch of pants to try on. 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:31.280 I went over and introduced myself and offered to start 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:33.520 a room for him. He had a British accent, and 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:35.360 he told me his band was playing in town that 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:37.640 night and he was looking for clothes to wear on stage. 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:39.920 We got a lot of musicians, so I didn't really 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:43.040 react or ask any follow up questions. Instead, I just 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:48.160 started offering him more pants. I remember specifically complimenting him 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:51.080 on his Diamond Star earing. He shopped with me for 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:53.520 about thirty minutes and then went to the dressing room, 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:56.000 where I explained that we had a three item per 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:59.480 room limit. Who was it? Okay, but I would stand 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:03.080 outside the and just swap things out with him. His 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:05.360 wife and he both laughed and said, you think I'm 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:09.120 gonna run off with something? He said, you think I'm 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:12.120 gonna run off with something in a joking manner. I responded, 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:15.640 also in a jokey way. You never know. So I 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:18.040 stood there as he tried on pants and opened the 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:20.480 door to hand them back out and get new ones. 0:16:20.840 --> 0:16:23.680 After he bought about five hundred dollars worth of stuff 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:26.360 and they left, My manager came over with the sales 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:29.880 receipt and said, dumbfounded, do you know who that was? Got? Okay, 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:33.920 some guy whose band's playing tonight, I answered uncertainly. He 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:38.000 then showed me the signature, very clearly written, Ringo Star. 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:43.400 One of the Beatles was gonna shoplift some pants from 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:43.920 their store. 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:47.440 Okay, go on, I just don't speaking. Okay. 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:50.520 I could not have been more embarrassed, but I hope 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:53.080 he enjoyed not being recognized and being treated like everyone 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:54.680 else got it, Actually. 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:56.560 I fucking doubt it. You're a beetle. 0:16:56.840 --> 0:17:01.720 Well, but maybe for that very reason, Like since ever 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:05.600 since he was twenty eight years old, Yeah, no one's 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:08.080 treated ever treated him like that, I bet, unless they're 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:08.960 trying to be cute. 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:11.960 Or was he like, oh no, I've lost it. I 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:14.639 don't know, solastened because it wasn't the Beatles. 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:18.320 Oh maybe the Traveling Wilbury's there you go. And then 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:21.800 it just assigned Erica and then it says ps his boxers. 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:24.320 Was what he saw his boxers. 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:27.679 PS's boxers were white with a blue pinstripe, and he 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:30.760 and his wife were both incredibly nice. You just gave 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:33.760 away at the most secret piece of information you possibly could, 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:35.560 and they're like, but they're such lovely. 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:39.120 People, that Ringo star Wars boxers. Oh my god. 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:41.639 But like I feel like the nineties, if it was 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:44.359 someone like you didn't really know in a band and 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:46.560 a big band, but ring Ghosts, I feel like everyone 0:17:46.600 --> 0:17:48.120 recognized from ghostar back then. 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:50.159 I guess you'd think so, but maybe that she was 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:52.560 punk rock. That's what she was, punk rock, and like 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:55.280 our generation would maybe. 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:58.680 We're the cutoff. Wow, that was so entertaining. 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:00.920 So if you want to hear more about Ringo Star, 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:04.040 go to episode one to eleven of Disgraceland, because that 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:08.240 episode is called Ringo Star busted by Mexican Federales, threatened 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:11.400 by French Canadian separatists, and the King of Feel. 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:15.080 Anywhere Boxers and white box boxers over bies. 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:17.000 That's our addition to the show. 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:23.119 Okay, this one is about Taylor Swift, who was covered 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:27.480 in Disgraceland on episode ninety three. Hey KG, thank you 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:30.400 for being my ear drum besties these past eight years 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:33.280 and counting. In twenty ten, I was in a college 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:38.920 a cappella group called the UCSD Tritones Tritones. 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:40.880 The name is a musical pun on. 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:44.520 Our mascot, King Triton, Oh Tritones Perfect. 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:48.160 One casual day about cash was a serious day? 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:52.600 Is this uc San Diego U No, Yeah, SD CSD 0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:55.920 Yeah India the Tritons. I want to see that mascot. 0:18:56.800 --> 0:18:57.560 One casual day. 0:18:57.600 --> 0:19:00.000 About halfway through the school year, we receive an email 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:02.840 from someone claiming to be the business manager of none 0:19:02.880 --> 0:19:06.200 other than Taylor Swift. They asked if we were interested 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:09.240 in being backup singers for Taylor's upcoming performance at the 0:19:09.280 --> 0:19:12.760 American Country Music Awards, but it was a secret act 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:15.800