1 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to my favorite murder the miniss Right, 2 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: that's my line, I can say it, you. 3 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 2: Got it, I did fine, you did it. I'm proud 4 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 2: of you line. 5 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 3: Then the minisod and it's a very special minisod. We've 6 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 3: just announced that we are bringing the wonderful podcast Disgraceland 7 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 3: onto the Exactly Right Network. 8 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: We are so excited. Jake Brennan is finally here, joining 9 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: our Marvel universe with us. That's right, and Disgraceland and 10 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: Hollywood Land to amazing podcasts. Most of you probably have 11 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: listened to them. They've been around forever. They're amazing. But 12 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: now they're here with us. 13 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 2: Jake's here with us. 14 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: We're so excited. 15 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 3: So we're going to read you some hometowns that have 16 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 3: to do with like the music world, just to kind 17 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 3: of give it the little homage to Disgraceland. 18 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,919 Speaker 1: Yeah it Disgraceland is about musicians behaving badly in criminal ways, 19 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: and Hollywood Land of courses about celebrities doing the same. 20 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: So we picked some stories to reference that. 21 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 3: Yeah you want to go first, sure, Okay, We're starting 22 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 3: off strong with a hardcore true crime story. 23 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, hello, Murderino Sisters. 24 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 3: Here it is taking all of our willpower not to 25 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 3: fangirl over the mere thought of you reading our email, 26 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 3: So we. 27 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 2: Will try our hardest to cut to the chase. 28 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 3: Our sister got married this summer in our hometown of Lancaster, Pennsylvania. 29 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 3: Imagine a year filled with the flurry of bridesmaiding events 30 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 3: and group texting leading up to our sister's big day. Finally, 31 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 3: after a stunning wedding, it was party time. We were 32 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 3: excited that our sister hired a local celebrity named DJ 33 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 3: Freeze to host her reception. Think famous like every childhood 34 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 3: school carnival, every high school dance house, DJ to or 35 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 3: Grimy eighteen and up nightclubs famous. At the reception, the 36 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 3: bridal party toasts and the speeches drew on and on. 37 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 3: We snuck out to find the wedding coordinators and discussed 38 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 3: adding an hour to our venue contracts so we could 39 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 3: have more party time because the speeches went so long. 40 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: Really, nobody wants that so boring? 41 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: Who cares? 42 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 2: Nobody cares? 43 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: Talk about it privately, please. 44 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 3: We had to talk separately to our boy, DJ Freese 45 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 3: since he was on a separate contract. What I thought 46 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 3: started as a schmoozy, Hey, what would it take for 47 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 3: you to work an extra hour? Conversations soon went downhill. 48 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 3: DJ Freeze was dramatically offended by my cash offer and 49 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 3: threatened to tell the bride and groom. Luckily we were 50 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 3: able to save the day, but it turned into me 51 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 3: slapping too many hundred dollars bills into Freeze's hand and 52 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 3: telling him your music sucks like the immature adult I am. Luckily, 53 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 3: the party went off without a hitch, and our sister 54 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 3: never knew what a dB DJ Freeze was to us. 55 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 3: Thirty six hours later, our phones illuminate to a flurry 56 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 3: of group texts. What could the bridesmaids possibly have left 57 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 3: to discuss? Well, apparently murder h that Monday morning. I 58 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 3: fucking remember this happening. Really that Monday morning. The headline 59 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 3: read cold case cracked. Suspect arrested in connection to nineteen 60 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 3: ninety two murder of Christi Mihrak rewind to Lancaster, Pennsylvania, 61 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 3: December nineteen ninety two. Christy Mihrack is a twenty four 62 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 3: year old elementary school teacher who lived in the apartments 63 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 3: about one point five miles from her childhood home in 64 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 3: the same complex. As many of our friends, she had 65 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 3: a classroom of students awaiting her arrival to school. 66 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 2: On that last day before the holiday. 67 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 3: Break, the school principal discovered her body as he visited 68 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 3: her apartment after many phone calls went unanswered. 69 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: She was twenty twenty four, so sad. 70 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 3: She had wrapped a book for each student as a 71 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 3: Christmas present, and the gifts were found scattered around the 72 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 3: room where her body was found. After thousands of tips 73 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 3: came in and interviews were conducted, the investigators were left 74 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 3: without any leads and ultimately the case went cold. Christie's 75 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 3: family continued to fight to keep her story in the 76 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 3: forefront of our community. They used to have billboards along 77 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 3: the freeway begging our community to continue to come with 78 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 3: any leads. Then, in May twenty eighteen, twenty five years later, 79 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 3: the case was cracked wide open thanks to our new 80 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 3: favorite crime solving method, ancestry DNA oh Wow. This break 81 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 3: came less than two months after the Golden State killer 82 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 3: conviction using ancestry DNA, and it is our understanding that 83 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 3: at this time this was only the second case in 84 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 3: the United States that has been solved. 85 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: Using this method. 86 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: Wow. 87 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 3: Within only two days of receiving those ancestry DNA results 88 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 3: and conducting interviews in Lancaster, investigators were able to locate 89 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 3: their only suspect, now forty nine year old Raymond Row 90 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 3: aka DJ Freeze. Once Raymond Row was identified as her 91 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 3: suspect in May twenty eighteen, undercover agents surveiled him almost 92 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 3: immediately at an elementary school carnival in Lancaster where he 93 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 3: was working a DJ gig. The agents were covered chewing 94 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 3: gum and a water bottle that Raymond Row had discarded 95 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 3: in the trash. DNA tests on these items soon proved 96 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 3: that he, in fact was a match to the mystery 97 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 3: DNA found on in and under Christie Merak's body twenty 98 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 3: five years before. 99 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: Wow. 100 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 3: This break in the case emerged for the investigators just 101 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 3: hours before Raymond Row showed up to DJ our sister's wedding. 102 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: No wait, did he know? 103 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 3: No? 104 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: Oh, so that was like the cops knew, but he 105 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: hadn't been Yeah. 106 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 3: Oh, I think after Raymond Roe was arrested less than 107 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 3: two days after the wedding. 108 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he would have known. 109 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 3: It has not been determined if or how Raymond Row 110 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 3: knew Christy Mehrak before murdering her. He lived in the 111 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 3: same town, just miles from the crime scene for more 112 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 3: years following the murder than Christy Mehrak lived her life 113 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 3: in its entirety. 114 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: Isn't that the creepy thing, Like same thing with the 115 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: Golden State Killer, where they just sit in their own 116 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: neighborhood and just their living regular life. 117 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 2: It's baffling. 118 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: It's so upsetting, and it's so like, yeah, I'm fair 119 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: hiding and plant siet. 120 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 121 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 3: Police arrested him at his home without incident and he 122 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 3: is currently being held without bond in the Lancaster County Jail. 123 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 3: Well he awaits trial SSDGMAA. 124 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: Wow, I know. 125 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 3: And so this email was actually sent in October twenty six, 126 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 3: twenty eighteen. Oh so a long time ago. Yeah, some updates. 127 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 3: The story is still unfolding. But Raymond Rowe DJ Freeze 128 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 3: pleaded guilty in January twenty nineteen, but less than a 129 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 3: year later he began appealing his conviction. And this is 130 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 3: from Lancaster Online. Rote testified at an August twenty twenty 131 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 3: one hearing that he and Marrak had a secret relationship 132 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 3: and the day she was killed, he said they had 133 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 3: consensual sex and she was alive when he left the townhouse. 134 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 2: And so he's appealing his. 135 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 3: Latest loss in a bid to have DNA testing done 136 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 3: on other items at the scene. 137 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 2: So that's the update. 138 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: Wow, slowly but surely you're going to convert me to 139 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 1: liking cold cases, because when you start an email like 140 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: that and people start telling that story where it's like, 141 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: please tell me that they found it, Please tell me 142 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: that it's over. 143 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 3: I know, and there was like less than nothing as 144 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 3: far as evidence goes back, you know that they had 145 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 3: as he wasn't a suspect. I don't think he was 146 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 3: just nobody in her life. Yeah, so the fact that 147 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 3: they found him is just purely because of DNA and 148 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 3: investigative research. 149 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, the cold case heam. 150 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 2: Wow. 151 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: Okay, this is also you know, true crimey, but definitely 152 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: a different direction. The subject line of this email is 153 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: I almost got fired for refusing to serve R Kelly 154 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: and one of the it's a great email that has 155 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: a lot of interesting tidbits in it. But also Jake 156 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: covered R Kelly on Disgraceland his episode one seventy nine 157 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: June of twenty twenty four, and the title is R 158 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: Kelly Superstars Super predators and a twenty year reign of 159 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: sexual terror. Wow. So if you have not heard Disgraceland's 160 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:52,119 Speaker 1: coverage of the R. Kelly You Know journey, I guess 161 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: we could call it episode one seventy nine. Go listen 162 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: to that. It's episode one seventy nine. So this email starts, Hello, all, 163 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: I've been in the fire. I'm dining service industry for 164 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: almost sixteen years. Naturally, many celebrities have dined at establishments 165 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: that I've worked at. I won't name names, but just 166 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: note that Patty Smith is a sweetheart and just to 167 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: now double plow, just Gracelind has an episode that's all 168 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: about Patty Smith. It came out April seventh, so you 169 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: can go listen to it now. Wow, he does it all. Okay, 170 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: So back in July of twenty nineteen, I was working 171 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: in the Gold Coast of Chicago in what they call 172 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: the Viagra Triangle, which is essentially where rich old men 173 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: bring their mistress out. 174 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,359 Speaker 2: Oh my god, gross shower. 175 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: It's a bleach bath. Please. So it says R. Kelly 176 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: and his group of lawyers came in to dine in 177 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: my section. His bodyguard or manager had overheard the conversation 178 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: I had with a matre D about my refusal to 179 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: wait on a fucking predator and blue up on me. 180 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 2: Good for you. 181 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: He said something along the line of everybody's got to eat, 182 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: to which I replied, if I ran a bodega, I 183 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: wouldn't sell him ramen noodles. Let's not bring Rochmond middles 184 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: in it, and they're just as good as any fucking 185 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: steak and bodegas. The matre d told me to go 186 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: outside and cool off. What a classic matre D move. 187 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 2: Go cool off? 188 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: Okay, how about you, coola, Needless to say, Yet another 189 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,599 Speaker 1: employee serve the table. Also in my section was a 190 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: group of men who had repeatedly asked to take pictures 191 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: with him. The undistinguished mister Kelly refused photos due to 192 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: bad press at the time, but instead decided to pick 193 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: up their check because he knew I was their waiter 194 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: and it would be an excuse for me to approach 195 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: him again after the scene that was made earlier. Dude, 196 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: I handed him the check to sign, which he did, 197 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: but he had written a zero on the tip line. 198 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: I opened the book, holding the check in front of him, 199 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: saw that he had stiffed me, laughed and said, yeah, 200 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: that sounds about right, and walked away. His entourage complained 201 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: to management about my behavior to a point where I 202 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: was almost fired, and they waited outside the restaurant and 203 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: followed me to the train, calling me multiple derogatory terms 204 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: the pinnacle of class. Though I no longer work at 205 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: this establishment, and I highly doubt he listens to your 206 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: show in prison, I relish the fact that this story 207 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: helped me have a dialogue with my wonderful girlfriend I 208 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: met only a few days before. This incident drew us 209 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: closer together. She introduced me to your show, and when 210 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 1: we go on road trips, one of us always ask 211 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: the question, you want to listen to the girls? Thank 212 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: you both for all you do, stay sexy, and please 213 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: remember that tipping twenty percent is bare minimum. Yes, sincerely, Hayden. 214 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 2: Wow, Hayden, Hayden. 215 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 1: Standing up fighting the good fight all alone. 216 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 3: Appreciate you. That's fucking awesome. Yeah, twenty two percent is 217 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 3: my minimum now. 218 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,719 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, Yet, Also, the excuse everyone's got to 219 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:40,719 Speaker 1: eat is disgusting. 220 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: Come on, seriously, I have one more? Where are you going? 221 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 2: All right? 222 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 3: Two? 223 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 2: More? 224 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: Yeah? No? No, I sorry, I was not going anywhere. 225 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: I just tell you to see what I was doing. 226 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 2: David Bowie's a rest story in Rochester, New York. 227 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: Oo. 228 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 3: And so David Bowie was covered in disgrace Land on 229 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 3: episode seventy one. 230 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 2: So check that out. 231 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 3: It's called David Bowie, the Occult, Cocaine, Orgi's arrests, exorcism, 232 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 3: a weird flirtation with fascism, and a dead body. That's 233 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 3: the Disgraceline episode. 234 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: It's so good. Yeah, I listened to that whole thing 235 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: and it's great. 236 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 3: And you know David Bowie's mugshot, right, you've seen that everyone. 237 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: He was only snorting cocaine and eating red peppers at 238 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: the time, like that was his diet, that was his thing. 239 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 3: Hi, Georgia and Karen, I'm originally from India, but I've 240 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 3: been living in Rochester, New York for four years now. 241 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 3: What a weird switch to go from India to Rochester, 242 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 3: New Upstate New York. 243 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: A little bit chillier, I would say, in upstate remark. 244 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 3: The city has a lot of history, home of Susan B. Anthony, 245 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 3: Frederick Douglass began publishing the north Star newspaper here, and 246 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 3: of course George Eastman but after the demise of Kodak, 247 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 3: nothing exciting has really happened here today. 248 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 2: I was looking through a local. 249 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 3: Boutique I want to say, Bouquet so bad and found 250 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 3: a wallprint of David Bowie's mugshot dated March twenty fifth, 251 00:11:58,520 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 3: nineteen seventy six. 252 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 2: Had to google the backstory. 253 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 3: Back in the day, famous people held concerts here must 254 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 3: be nice. Bowie performed at the Community War Memorial and 255 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 3: headed back to his hotel room for general merriment. With 256 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 3: him was his bodyguard, Iggy Pop, and three girls, one 257 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 3: of whom was a local he had taken a fancy 258 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 3: to during the concert. 259 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 2: Iggy Pop and David Bowie together, We're just. 260 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: Going to go hang out at the at the Higott. 261 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 2: Zero percent body fat. Let's just do so much cocaine. 262 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: One hundred percent cocaine, zero percent body fat, so many 263 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: red peppers. 264 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 3: As they were hanging out, three police officers showed up 265 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 3: at the door. Bowie opened the door and was instantly 266 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 3: knocked backwards by the officers trying to get in. The 267 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 3: entire party was busted for possession of half a pound 268 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 3: of marijuana. Turns out, two of the girls present at 269 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 3: the party were undercover, acting on a tip that they 270 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 3: would find cocaine in his hotel room, and police had 271 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 3: set up shop in the adjacent room, listening through the 272 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 3: wall using a stethoscope. 273 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: The fuck come on, Rochester, bring reggae please. We thought 274 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: you were good than that. 275 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 3: When one of the girls asked where she could score some, 276 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 3: which is entrapmentt for sure, it was reason enough for 277 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 3: them to barge in Guys Enjoy. Although no cocaine, there 278 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 3: was ample marijuana to make the arrest. Bowie and company 279 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 3: were held in Monroe County jail for a few hours, 280 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 3: but let go on a two thousand dollars bail each 281 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 3: so that he could drive on to his next concert location. 282 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 3: Apparently Bowie was afraid of flying. After his American tour, 283 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,959 Speaker 3: he went back to England on a boat. Oh shit anyway. 284 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 3: In May nineteen seventy six, the charges were dismissed after 285 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 3: a grand jury declined to indict Bowie because they're not 286 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 3: fucking narks. At the time of his initial hearing, a 287 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 3: reporter had asked you if he had any sour feelings 288 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 3: about returning to Rochester after the arrest, to which Bowie 289 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 3: had replied, certainly, not absolutely not, needless to say, he 290 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 3: never performed in Rochester again. 291 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 2: Of course, stay sexy. 292 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 3: And only reveal your stash to the trusted sale pronounced sale, 293 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 3: she her. 294 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: I mean, such a good story. Yeah, I'm sure they 295 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 1: did that to anybody that coming through town for whose 296 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 1: hair was like longer than her chin, who. 297 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 2: Was like a feminine man. Yeah. 298 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, that crazy, those crazy rock and roll boys. I 299 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: told you that. My dad and I one holiday break, 300 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: we're watching the Bowie documentary and I just kind of 301 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: flipped it on and left it there, and he he 302 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: was flipping around. He left it there, and then I 303 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: was like, he's not turning it, so I was just 304 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: staying quiet and watching it with him. And he watched 305 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: it for like a half an hour, through all these 306 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: crazy stories and performances, and then he in one shot 307 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: he's walking on stage barefoot, and my dad goes, oh, 308 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: he's barefoot and changes the channel. That's what gets him off. 309 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 2: The bar foot was barefoot to live it. 310 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: Too far, dropping acid, dressing like a spider from Mars, 311 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: none of it. It's all fine with Jim. 312 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 2: He can't he just can't tolerate bare feet. 313 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: Oh look at this, I mean I think it's gross, 314 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: but you're on board. Okay, Well, now that we're in 315 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: true rock and roll worlds and I'm not going to 316 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: read to the subject line, and I'll tell you about 317 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: the disgrace lined episode that this connects to a can't 318 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: This just starts. When I was a very punk rock 319 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: teenager in Boston in the late nineties, I worked at 320 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: a fancy punk goth clothing store on Newberry Street. We 321 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: worked on commission, and whoever greeted the customer first was 322 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: their salesperson throughout and got the sale. One day, the 323 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: store was empty on a Friday afternoon, and this middle 324 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: aged couple came in. They weren't in my section, but 325 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: after fifteen minutes, no one had gone to help, and 326 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: the man was holding a bunch of pants to try on. 327 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: I went over and introduced myself and offered to start 328 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: a room for him. He had a British accent, and 329 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: he told me his band was playing in town that 330 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: night and he was looking for clothes to wear on stage. 331 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: We got a lot of musicians, so I didn't really 332 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: react or ask any follow up questions. Instead, I just 333 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: started offering him more pants. I remember specifically complimenting him 334 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: on his Diamond Star earing. He shopped with me for 335 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: about thirty minutes and then went to the dressing room, 336 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: where I explained that we had a three item per 337 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: room limit. Who was it? Okay, but I would stand 338 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: outside the and just swap things out with him. His 339 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: wife and he both laughed and said, you think I'm 340 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: gonna run off with something? He said, you think I'm 341 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: gonna run off with something in a joking manner. I responded, 342 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: also in a jokey way. You never know. So I 343 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: stood there as he tried on pants and opened the 344 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: door to hand them back out and get new ones. 345 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: After he bought about five hundred dollars worth of stuff 346 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: and they left, My manager came over with the sales 347 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: receipt and said, dumbfounded, do you know who that was? Got? Okay, 348 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: some guy whose band's playing tonight, I answered uncertainly. He 349 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: then showed me the signature, very clearly written, Ringo Star. 350 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: One of the Beatles was gonna shoplift some pants from 351 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: their store. 352 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 2: Okay, go on, I just don't speaking. Okay. 353 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: I could not have been more embarrassed, but I hope 354 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: he enjoyed not being recognized and being treated like everyone 355 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: else got it, Actually. 356 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 2: I fucking doubt it. You're a beetle. 357 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: Well, but maybe for that very reason, Like since ever 358 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: since he was twenty eight years old, Yeah, no one's 359 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: treated ever treated him like that, I bet, unless they're 360 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: trying to be cute. 361 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 2: Or was he like, oh no, I've lost it. I 362 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 2: don't know, solastened because it wasn't the Beatles. 363 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: Oh maybe the Traveling Wilbury's there you go. And then 364 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: it just assigned Erica and then it says ps his boxers. 365 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 2: Was what he saw his boxers. 366 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 1: PS's boxers were white with a blue pinstripe, and he 367 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: and his wife were both incredibly nice. You just gave 368 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: away at the most secret piece of information you possibly could, 369 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: and they're like, but they're such lovely. 370 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 2: People, that Ringo star Wars boxers. Oh my god. 371 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 3: But like I feel like the nineties, if it was 372 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 3: someone like you didn't really know in a band and 373 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 3: a big band, but ring Ghosts, I feel like everyone 374 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 3: recognized from ghostar back then. 375 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 1: I guess you'd think so, but maybe that she was 376 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: punk rock. That's what she was, punk rock, and like 377 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: our generation would maybe. 378 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 2: We're the cutoff. Wow, that was so entertaining. 379 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: So if you want to hear more about Ringo Star, 380 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: go to episode one to eleven of Disgraceland, because that 381 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: episode is called Ringo Star busted by Mexican Federales, threatened 382 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 1: by French Canadian separatists, and the King of Feel. 383 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 2: Anywhere Boxers and white box boxers over bies. 384 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: That's our addition to the show. 385 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 3: Okay, this one is about Taylor Swift, who was covered 386 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 3: in Disgraceland on episode ninety three. Hey KG, thank you 387 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 3: for being my ear drum besties these past eight years 388 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 3: and counting. In twenty ten, I was in a college 389 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 3: a cappella group called the UCSD Tritones Tritones. 390 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 2: The name is a musical pun on. 391 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 3: Our mascot, King Triton, Oh Tritones Perfect. 392 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 2: One casual day about cash was a serious day? 393 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: Is this uc San Diego U No, Yeah, SD CSD 394 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 1: Yeah India the Tritons. I want to see that mascot. 395 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 2: One casual day. 396 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 3: About halfway through the school year, we receive an email 397 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 3: from someone claiming to be the business manager of none 398 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 3: other than Taylor Swift. They asked if we were interested 399 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 3: in being backup singers for Taylor's upcoming performance at the 400 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 3: American Country Music Awards, but it was a secret act 401 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 3: since we the choir would not be revealed until the 402 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 3: end of the song for dramatic effect. We all thought, yeah, right, 403 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 3: there was no way this email slash opportunity was legit. 404 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 2: Well it totally was. 405 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 3: Turns out they were looking for singers around her age 406 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 3: and they found us via video we posted to YouTube 407 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 3: singing a te Swift cover of You Belong with Me? 408 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 2: Pretty sure? Is that the same song from the fucking 409 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 2: first one? Different song? Damn it? That would have been cool, 410 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 2: Pretty sure. 411 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 3: The video was terrible quality by twenty twenty four standards 412 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 3: and was taken in a poorly lit lecture hall, but 413 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 3: it did the trick in helping us get discovered. 414 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: Yeah it did. 415 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 3: A few months later, in April, we a random collection 416 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 3: of college kids, had the gig of a lifetime at 417 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 3: the forty fifth Acmas in Last Vegas. 418 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 2: We did our best. 419 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 3: To keep it from our friends and family, who mostly 420 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 3: found out from watching us on national cable TV. Says 421 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 3: Hello twenty ten so cool. I will say, Taylor is 422 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 3: truly a class act. We had to record the bas 423 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 3: track on Easter weekend due to limited studio availability, she 424 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 3: took the time out of her holiday to call in 425 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 3: from Nashville to say hi and personally thank us for 426 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 3: our time. 427 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: I mean, that is classy beyond belief. There's so many 428 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: celebrities and people who let everybody else do work like that, right. 429 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 2: And like you're lucky to be working with me. Yeah. 430 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 3: No. Then after the performance, she did her best to 431 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 3: give as many of us individual hugs before being whisked 432 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 3: away by her security team. 433 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: I wonder how many people are in that choir. 434 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 2: Probably a lot, just like it's a choir. 435 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. We also got hugs from her super sweet mom, 436 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 3: who at the time said she'd never missed one of 437 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 3: her daughter's performances to date. And then that emoji that's 438 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 3: about to start crying the little you know. Oh, and 439 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 3: there were a ton of extra bonus lob sightings from 440 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 3: the night, including Reba, Carrie Underwood, Matthew McConaughey, Kristen Bell, 441 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 3: share An ll cool Jay who introduced us by name NBD. 442 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 2: For Trytones, the try Tone Ladies and Gentlemen. Fourteen years later. 443 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 3: This is still by far the coolest thing that has 444 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 3: happened to me, well up until the birth of my 445 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 3: baby Boy six weeks ago, Stay Sexy and Trust Sketchy 446 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 3: emails from people claiming to be business managers question Mark, Chelsea. 447 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: I mean, I love that story, Chelsea, so exciting. 448 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 3: That did happen to me and ally with Food Network 449 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 3: in two thousand and nine, Hey, we likedre video on Facebook. 450 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 2: Do you want to make more videos like fuck you creep? 451 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 2: It was Food Network, but. 452 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 1: It was actually Food Network, Fuck you creep? Did you 453 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: say the words fuck you creep? 454 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 2: No, just did respond I would. 455 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: Love it in an email fuck you great. 456 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 2: Hey. 457 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: That happened when I was, of course very young, and 458 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: I got a call on a Saturday, can you come 459 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: into audition for Seinfeld? And I immediately said fuck off, 460 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: whoever this is and hung up the phone. And they 461 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 1: called back and were like they were laughing, but they're like, oh, 462 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,199 Speaker 1: we understand why you would do that, but it is 463 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 1: actually because they were calling me directly and normally that's 464 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: not how it went. And I couldn't stop laughing. And 465 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,239 Speaker 1: then I had actually a very good audition for the 466 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: first word I said, but I got a laugh and 467 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: then distracted myself and then didn't remember the last of 468 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: the rest of my single. Line. But the good news 469 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 1: is it the character in the line didn't make it. 470 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 2: To the line. Give it to us now, like the 471 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 2: she could do. 472 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: You know how Lane danced weird. So we're back at 473 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 1: the same staff party where she's going to dance weird again, 474 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: and I am the cater waiter who comes up and 475 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: the line I got to laugh on because the first 476 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: thing was you're just offering people floutas floutas, and so 477 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: I went floutus and I did it with a fake accent, 478 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: and it got a laugh in a room that Jerry 479 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: Seinfeld and Larry David were in, and there was literally like, 480 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: to me, in my mind it was like thirty writers, 481 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: but I bet you it was ten. But it was 482 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 1: a huge Sirifel writer Seinfeld writer laughing. 483 00:22:58,480 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 2: And so then. 484 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: I gave it a nice pH and then the casting 485 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 1: dictor said, whatever the next line was, I think it's 486 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 1: a Lane's line, and then I was just kind of 487 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 1: blanked out because I was like, man, that was awesome. 488 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 2: I did it. Who was the line? 489 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: It was something like, remember, hey, remember the lady who 490 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: danced crazy last year, But I'm saying it to her 491 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: the whole. 492 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 3: Joke and never eaten a flower? Does it get I mean, 493 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 3: I can't. 494 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: I can't look at them. It gives me acid stomach 495 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: and holy shit, I know. So okay, here's my last one. 496 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 1: The subject line of these email is trash Grandma shushed 497 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: at noozies. So there's no Disgraceland episode connecting to this. 498 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: But talk about a punk rock Gramma. Okay, Hi, Karen 499 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: in Georgia. My Nan is the best kind of trash grandma. 500 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: She has always been sassy, independent and brutally honest growing up. 501 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 1: If we complained about being thirsty, she'd say, drink your 502 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: spit ew hungry, bite your tongue. These are my people. 503 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 1: She pulled out my first tooth with slightly rusty needle 504 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: nosed pliers. You get the picture. In around twenty twelve, 505 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: my family and I all went to see Newsies on Broadway. 506 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: Do you remember that musical? My poor Nan has always 507 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 1: had bad hearing, which caused issues when watching the show. 508 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 1: She couldn't hear anything that was happening, and she kept 509 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 1: loudly whispering to my sister, what did they say? And 510 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: what's going on? And who is that? We kept telling 511 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: her that she was whispering too loudly, but that only 512 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: made things worse because then she would yell, what did 513 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: you say? Oh God, it was pointless to try to 514 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: get her to be quieter. And it must be really 515 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: hard to not be able to hear what's going on 516 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: around you, for sure. That's a nice little parenthetical of empathy. 517 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: At some point, people around us started to notice, including 518 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 1: the man in front of us who started shushing her. 519 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: He eventually got so frustrated that he turned around and yelled, please, 520 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 1: just please. 521 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 3: Oh I want to rate this man, but I feel 522 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 3: for him. 523 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: No, I was him when we went to see Hamilton, 524 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: a full family that was like, hey, do you ever 525 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: see it? Like full voice conversation. 526 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 2: That's not okay, but like a little old lady. 527 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: A little old lady's different. But this was like every 528 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: member of the family, now, fuck you all making small 529 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: talk back there, And I did a full leaned forward 530 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: and turned my upper body like a horror movie as 531 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: a far around as I could, and I was like, 532 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: will you please stop talking? 533 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 2: And they say. 534 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 1: The father was like, I'm so sorry, and he got 535 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 1: them all together and they did. Only then do we 536 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: realize that the man who had been shushing my nan 537 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 1: was none other then star trek Legend. George to Kai, No, 538 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: you can't hurt George to Kai, No, please don't infuriate George. 539 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: Of course, my trash grandmother just responded, excuse me, Who 540 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: the hell does he think he is? George to Kai, 541 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 1: that's who. That's what they wrote. 542 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 2: I love it. 543 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 1: My nan is ninety years old and has pretty aggressive 544 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 1: dimension now, but this story always reminds me of who 545 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: she is at her core, which is a blunt, hilarious, 546 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: badass woman who has lived a long and wonderful life. 547 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: Stay sexy and hug your grandparents if you still have them. 548 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 3: Grace, Oh my god, Gracie. There couldn't have been a 549 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 3: better person to like that, to surprise you with the 550 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 3: you're crying. 551 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: It's so it's like a sketch on TV, because George 552 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: Kakai is like the chillest, greatest, like lovely person, right, 553 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: and he you pissed him off. You know that he's 554 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: gonna be funny like hello, like that whole character of Georgechicai, 555 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 1: and you pushed him to the brink. Newsy's, which is 556 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: the award winning Newsy, the winning news everybody loves, Everybody's 557 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: favorite I'm trying to listen to the newspaper musical Grandma. 558 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 2: Well, that was a just Graceland. 559 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,640 Speaker 3: Make sure you check that out, Hollywood Land to subscribe, 560 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 3: great review, all the good things that help so much. 561 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: We're so excited to have Jake Brennan on this network. 562 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 2: That's right. 563 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 3: Tell us your your fucked up musician stories, whatever they are. 564 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll start doing disgrace Land right out from under him. 565 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 1: Great idea, stay sexy and don't get murdered. 566 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 2: Goodbye, Elvis. 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