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Speaker 2: Most definitely we also get to talk to my boy

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Speaker 2: Shawn Springs All he's that's gonna be a great conversation.

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Speaker 3: And GM Adam Peters in the house gonna talk to

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Speaker 3: Let's do it.

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Speaker 3: not like us. Oh I knew it. Listen to me.

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Speaker 3: Why don't you make a TikTok dance? Everybody was doing

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Speaker 3: that after the Superhowl. I have yet to make one TikTok?

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Speaker 2: I refuse to do it because I'm just dirty, old man,

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Speaker 2: just not.

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Speaker 3: Gonna do it.

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Speaker 2: But I don't think you know, we come back. We

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Speaker 2: it all. We have seen the Tupac Biggie. We have

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Speaker 2: seen what we have seen it all. I have never

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Speaker 3: Like Drake has got man. Now you got destroyed, like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: it happened.

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Speaker 1: I saw Adam Peters destroys the rest of the NFL

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Speaker 3: Now, Adam Peters is Adam Lamar. He's gonna be on

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Speaker 3: the show. Yes, he's Adam Lamar.

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Speaker 2: Right now he is killing it like I'm gonna tell

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Speaker 2: way to go to the Texans. He realized that they

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Speaker 2: the San Francisco forty nine ers. They are in cap hell.

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Speaker 3: That's that's unbelieved. That's not like us.

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Speaker 1: I bet that's the first time Adam Peters has been

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Speaker 3: He's a helicompetent thought Adam Lamar.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna talk about getting ready for the NFL draft

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Speaker 1: kind of his process. Yes, you know what's next for

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Speaker 1: this team now that he's hearing entrenched, this is it is.

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Speaker 2: His time, Like this is the time of the year

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Speaker 2: where GM stepped to the forefront, head coaching stepped to

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Speaker 2: all a GM could do is say, I'm just gonna

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Speaker 2: But it's up to coach Quinn to cook it. I

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Speaker 1: You know, I love last year. I believe it was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just being real being out of that, Like, you

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Speaker 2: got to realize these negotiations, especially with thirty two high

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Speaker 3: It's competitive.

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Speaker 2: It's a competitive because everybody trying to one up each other. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Everybody'll say we want to deal against the Texas. Everybody

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Speaker 3: Yes, I'm going to let you get to one over

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Speaker 2: Deal the art of deal making? That's what it is

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Speaker 3: And I had to like nudge us back on you

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Speaker 1: That's a tricky thing to maneuver too, which is why

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Speaker 2: But no, if then and now it sets them up

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Speaker 2: nobody wants to say he's good. But quarterbacks, I tell

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Speaker 3: This planet to think it's the market. Who else are

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Speaker 3: But can you afford not to pay him? Though?

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Speaker 1: I mean really, I mean he is a I can't

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Speaker 2: I can't afford to pay him forty million dollars a year.

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Speaker 3: I don't disagree. That's that's gonna be a tough.

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Speaker 2: I can't do that and then keep a Christian McCaffrey.

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Speaker 2: The one thing I know about Dak is as good

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Speaker 2: DK need everything to be perfect around him. He need

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Speaker 3: Now, but he ain't lost a step.

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Speaker 1: But doesn't it really come down to what Kyle Shanahan

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Speaker 3: You don't need but one person to believe in you.

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Speaker 2: Because I think he got faith in him. I think

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Speaker 3: Can I ask you this? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: If they said no, we're not going to pay you

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Speaker 3: I would? I would think about this.

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Speaker 2: If I traded Rock Party to the Pittsburgh Stod, I

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Speaker 2: Because I think as much as the forty nine ers

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Speaker 2: Trent is thirty seven years old.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that window and Christian McCaffrey always banged up.

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Speaker 2: You just lost all of these free agents. You don't

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Speaker 3: I trade Rock Party and I take Jackson Dark.

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Speaker 4: played extremely well down the stretch in the playoffs, who

441
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Speaker 4: played really really well. They weren't the weakness. I mean,

442
00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,639
Speaker 4: you know, Mikey looked like by the time of the

443
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Speaker 4: end of the year for him from a rookie to

444
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Speaker 4: let like, this guy is gonna be all pro corner

445
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Speaker 4: and now you ad you know you had Will and

446
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Speaker 4: you just you Teugh the experience a lot of more.

447
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Speaker 4: Who's gonna be healthy coming into this season? I mean, man,

448
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:42,639
Speaker 4: we got a pretty good secondary.

449
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Speaker 3: Well.

450
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Speaker 2: The fun and good part about this is we have

451
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Speaker 2: the luxury of having o Adam Peters on that pod,

452
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Speaker 2: on that podcast, and I'm sure you can't get him

453
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Speaker 2: on yours. So I'm going to ext you this draft

454
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Speaker 2: situation Ohio State. Who's the best running back there is?

455
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Speaker 2: The quinc Juken? Is it Travion Henderson? Because me myself,

456
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,679
Speaker 2: as much as I like Jakins, I really do. I

457
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,199
Speaker 2: think if I had to draft one to the Washington

458
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Speaker 2: football team, it will be Trevion Henderson AKA.

459
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Speaker 3: And he's a guy that's from Virginia.

460
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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, well I think they're both are excellent choices man,

461
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 4: and uh you know one. I mean it's like they

462
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:23,880
Speaker 4: both can run.

463
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Speaker 1: Man.

464
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Speaker 4: You know, we look at Travion and he's you're right,

465
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Speaker 4: You're right. He's from Petersburgh, Virginia, and he has tremendous speed.

466
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Speaker 4: He's a home run hitter. But when you look at

467
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 4: Jenkins and like he's just a physical guy, but he

468
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,120
Speaker 4: still has enough speed to break away and they both

469
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 4: are really really good football players. Man, can we drop

470
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Speaker 4: both of them from Ohio State?

471
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Speaker 2: Well, you know what, I don't know if drafting from

472
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Speaker 2: Ohio State has been beneficial for us in the past.

473
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Speaker 3: I really don't know, not that I look at the

474
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Speaker 3: players that we drafted from there.

475
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Speaker 2: But like I said, if I had to take one

476
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Speaker 2: and put one on his roster, It'll be Travion Henderson

477
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Speaker 2: because I think he I think he has that home

478
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Speaker 2: run Hites mentality with the speed, the breakaway speed. I

479
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 2: think he's great in the past game and I think

480
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 2: he's an underrated pass blocker. So I would think there'll

481
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Speaker 2: be the guy that I don't know if he gets

482
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Speaker 2: to the second day.

483
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Speaker 3: I don't know if he gets to the second round.

484
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would agree Smooth. I think you know that

485
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Speaker 4: that he got a little bit of separation when it

486
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Speaker 4: comes to like has ability to take a catch eighty

487
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Speaker 4: off a screen instantly. So I would agree with that.

488
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Speaker 3: Sean.

489
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Speaker 1: When you look at this team and what they need

490
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Speaker 1: in the draft or even you know before the season

491
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Speaker 1: you know gets underway via trade or whatever it is.

492
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Speaker 1: You keep hearing they need an edge, they need an

493
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Speaker 1: edge and I know Smooth agrees with that to a point,

494
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 1: but also says, maybe that's overstated.

495
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Speaker 3: How do you feel.

496
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Speaker 4: I think that if you want to be a real

497
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Speaker 4: contender in the NFL, you have to be strong in

498
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Speaker 4: the interior offense and defensive line. And then when you

499
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Speaker 4: need a play to be made in the playoffs, you

500
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Speaker 4: got to have that adge dresser. You got to have

501
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Speaker 4: that guy when when you're back it's against the wall,

502
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Speaker 4: A guy who can win the one on one on

503
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Speaker 4: one battle, who can you know, be the tackle, be

504
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Speaker 4: the right tackle or someone and you need that. I

505
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Speaker 4: don't think you can go deep into the playoffs with

506
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Speaker 4: a guy who can Blue give you that pressure.

507
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Speaker 3: I dispute that Blue because when I.

508
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Speaker 4: You know, pass rushes everything.

509
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Speaker 2: Brother, Yes, but I believe past Rustler from the interior

510
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 2: is better than the exterior. I look at the Philadelphia Eagles,

511
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Speaker 2: Jalen Carter, that was the That's the guy that makes

512
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Speaker 2: things happen. I look at the cat and Cy the chief,

513
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 2: Chris Jones makes things happen. I look at the Rams.

514
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Speaker 2: Uh who who I'm thinking about?

515
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Speaker 3: Uh? The Rams? There? Donald Aaron Donald?

516
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Speaker 4: Like I hear, I hear, I hear all that. But

517
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Speaker 4: we all we all know if Hutcheson doesn't get hurt

518
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 4: for Detroit, that's a whole different team.

519
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Speaker 3: That is.

520
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Speaker 4: But you know, Tjan Fran, you know, but you know

521
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Speaker 4: both sass san Fran makes that defense go. You know, tj.

522
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Speaker 4: This person makes that defense stuff.

523
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Speaker 2: And he's got zero playoff wins, zero playoff wins, Garrett

524
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Speaker 2: zero playoff wins, zero playoff wins, Mayoff Garrett zero playoff wins,

525
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Speaker 2: dj WHTT, zero playoff wins. Do all of the Edge

526
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Speaker 2: Russia and scruddinaires. You show me interior D tackle that

527
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Speaker 2: gets at least his team in tackle. I'll show you

528
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Speaker 2: a Super Bowl winner playoff contender.

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Speaker 4: Well, well, well I understand that, but you can't put

530
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Speaker 4: the playoffs on it. Obviously, if you want to go

531
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Speaker 4: to the playoffs, you gotta get a line in the

532
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 4: interior O line and D line, and you got to

533
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Speaker 4: have a quarterback. We both know that, So don't put

534
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Speaker 4: it on that. But come on, man, you know you know,

535
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 4: Edge rushes our premium because it's smooth, as you know,

536
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 4: it changes defense when you're back there. When you're back there,

537
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,679
Speaker 4: you're playing zone and you can sit back there and

538
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 4: keep your vision on the ball and vision on the quarterback.

539
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 4: And you know that ball has to come out because

540
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Speaker 4: there's a d N right there that everybody is afraid of.

541
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Speaker 4: You know that changes the game?

542
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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no no no. The tackles changed

543
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Speaker 2: the game, all right. One step changed the game like detap,

544
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 2: like like I'm telling you right now, and.

545
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Speaker 4: Who you said? Show me? In Super Bowl Team Bruce

546
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 4: Smith took Buffalo to four super Bowls.

547
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 2: And gets how many super Bowls he was? He got

548
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 2: as many super Bowls as a dead man?

549
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 3: Zero? He got zero super Bowl.

550
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 2: The number one second man in the NFL history got

551
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Speaker 2: zero Super Bowl Reggie White. Reggie White was actually with

552
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Speaker 2: slash interior. He went from d N to d tackle

553
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Speaker 2: in a split up beer eyde.

554
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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, let's talk about this. Probably the best defensive

555
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Speaker 4: player to ever played the game, and probably Launch Time

556
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Speaker 4: Taylor as launch tailor. Yes, he is why people know

557
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Speaker 4: laws tailor because he was bowling off the edge.

558
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Speaker 3: And guess what it ain't been.

559
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Speaker 4: You don't even think about him as a linebacker. And

560
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Speaker 4: I remember one you don't think about breaking Joe.

561
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 2: Ye enough anomaly at its best, he's the greatest defensive

562
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 2: player to ever play the game. It's never been another one.

563
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 2: It ain't gonna be another one. But when I do

564
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 2: my case study through frednalytics, this is what I do.

565
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 4: Find out that itlyics based on Mississippi.

566
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 3: What makes that line's defense so much better coming off

567
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Speaker 3: the edge?

568
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 2: He make it better coming off the edge. But it's

569
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Speaker 2: proven through time and and and and me in my

570
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 2: studies that the tackles affect the game, uh a nuch

571
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 2: more than edge.

572
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 3: I can actually on offense.

573
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 2: I can come up with a plan for edge Russia

574
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 2: that I can never do with a detackle. You can't

575
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 2: stop predominant detict.

576
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 4: I can tell you that it's called a double team.

577
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 4: It's called it's called.

578
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 2: But that's what great detaclers already used to They already

579
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 2: used to be. They already been used to being double team.

580
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 2: I can chip that edge. I can double team that.

581
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 3: I could do so.

582
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 2: Much on that edge. You showed me a great edge rushing.

583
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 2: I show you a high paid player with a big

584
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 2: name and no rings on his finger. The top five

585
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:14,479
Speaker 2: pass rushes edge rushers in this game today are ring list.

586
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 3: Unless they married. They ain't got no rings on their fingers.

587
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 3: But how much of that? Honestly, I had to do

588
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 3: a team versus player Huh.

589
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm like Miles Garret, right, no race, but

590
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 1: he plays with the Browns.

591
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,439
Speaker 2: Listen what you want me to cry river for Males

592
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 2: Garret because he played for the brown I'm.

593
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 3: Just saying, like, one man cannot make that offense.

594
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 1: I can't sell.

595
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 4: Let's argue this. Would you argue that Dexter Manley and

596
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 4: Charles man are the reason in Washington rest Cans where

597
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 4: at the height of that defense the best defense tove

598
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 4: ever and.

599
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 2: I get and for every every one of them, For

600
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 2: every one of them, I give you a Chris Hamburger.

601
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 2: For every one of them, I'm gonna give you a

602
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 2: de tackle that's putting in the dirty work. Look the

603
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 2: second change there was that not the just had the

604
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 2: best pass rushing duo and they got no ring for it.

605
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 3: I'm telling you the coming.

606
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 2: Denominator with edge Russians, high paid edge Russian is they're

607
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 2: usually gonna have a good a good ConA on their

608
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 2: team because guess what we do benefit from the edge Russian.

609
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 3: But when it.

610
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 2: Comes to rings manufacturer, Because let's go back to the

611
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 2: dynasty with Bill Belichick.

612
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 3: Okay, who was their best? Who were they best? Defensive lineman?

613
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 3: Richard Seymour, Richie.

614
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 4: Richard Seymour played in the okie front. He was the

615
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 4: d N. He was the.

616
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: No.

617
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 2: He was a he was a five technique playing on

618
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Speaker 2: the and he had a seven and he had an

619
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Speaker 2: outside linebacker outside of him.

620
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 3: All right.

621
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 2: All I'm telling you is interior defensive linements effect games

622
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 2: on another level than edge Russian. So while everybody out

623
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 2: here crying that we need to get an edge rusher,

624
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 2: I'm more about the interior defensive because the interior does

625
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 2: two things.

626
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 4: I believe. I agree with that, But I'm just trying

627
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 4: to say, if you can manufacture sacks without having to

628
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,719
Speaker 4: blitz and play zone changes?

629
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 3: Yes it does.

630
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 2: And the shortest route till the quarterback is over the center,

631
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 2: all right through the center.

632
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: But can you can I agree with all this, But

633
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying is, and I think where we can

634
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Speaker 1: come to an agreement here is if you're looking at

635
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: this defensive line, the interior of the line is set,

636
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: how much better would it be if it had an edge?

637
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 2: Who is more important to the Pittsburgh defense? Cam Hayward,

638
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 2: Tjytt if you.

639
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: Look at the metrics, it's TJ.

640
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 5: No.

641
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 2: No, because when you look at the metrics, you're looking

642
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 2: at stats. I'm looking at like TJ.

643
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 3: Watt.

644
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Speaker 2: As good as he is against the past, he ain't

645
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 2: nothing compared to Hayward when it comes to the run.

646
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean it's the totality of a football player.

647
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: Right when he is out of the lineup. The Steelers

648
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: give up more yard to get more points. They're a

649
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: much worse football team defense. Michael Jenkins, Frits, Michael Jenkins,

650
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: let me ask.

651
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 2: You, is all right the last edge Russia to win

652
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl?

653
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 3: That's great, Michael Strahand Yeah, probably.

654
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 4: No, that's not true.

655
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: Mir Let's go back to first at the Super Bowl.

656
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 3: Von Miller.

657
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 2: That's the last. That's that's the last one, all right.

658
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 2: Everything else is interior. Chris Jones has dominated this decade

659
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 2: Mississippi State.

660
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 3: Bull that's because of Patrick mahonmes right.

661
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 4: Dominated.

662
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, let's be.

663
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Speaker 4: They were giving out forty points a game.

664
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Speaker 2: You know they want listen a pair of lifts, a

665
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 2: tailor line. You telling one right now. Let's be honest

666
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 2: about this. Chris Jones has dominated the trenches the last

667
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 2: ten years of NFL football has been dominated by a

668
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 2: d tackle.

669
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that is true. He's the second best. He tackle

670
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 4: on the last year.

671
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 3: No, are you serious, who's the first one?

672
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 4: Aaron Donald?

673
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Speaker 3: I get you there?

674
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 4: All right?

675
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 3: What are we talking about? You know what? I don't

676
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 3: tell you right much?

677
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 2: But yes, I think I think Chris is better gets

678
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 2: the run than Aaron Donald was.

679
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 3: I will say.

680
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 4: That Aaron Donald man not at all.

681
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, listen, You'll never hear me hate on

682
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 2: Aaron Donald. By the way, I think Pitt University Mike

683
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 2: got more Hall of Famers than O State.

684
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 4: Now, if I'm correctly, o Holli State has the most

685
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 4: Hall of Famers in the NFL period.

686
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 3: Now you'll see t is a na You need.

687
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 4: To check that.

688
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Speaker 5: Brother.

689
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 4: You gotta be careful jumping out there. We talking about

690
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 4: the buck Eyes, bro, you got the most all of

691
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 4: my gotta be careful, Bro.

692
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 2: I don't know that they got Larry Fitzgeryal, they got

693
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 2: Darrel Reeves, they got Damn Marino.

694
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 3: Mean Joe Green Like.

695
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: I'm just saying now, all right, don't mean you agree

696
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: went to went to North.

697
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 3: Texas, he did.

698
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, she went to you went to University Wa.

699
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 4: Yes, knock it off to green and white bro relies.

700
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 2: I think people be shocked to see how many hall

701
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 2: of famers that pet University has. Pete more Hall of

702
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 2: famers than Peen State. But Peen State is known as

703
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 2: the football school.

704
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 4: That's true, No, there's not. Penn State is not even

705
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 4: known as football school in their own conference WIVE State.

706
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: As I understand, the big teams sean before we let

707
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: you go. This has been a great edge discussion. By

708
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: the way, what would you do it? Twenty nine in

709
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: the draft?

710
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 3: Just go? Best athletes are so many have an eye

711
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 3: on you for the commanders.

712
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: You know.

713
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 4: I think at this point where first of all, let's

714
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 4: talk about free agency, signing back some of our veterans

715
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 4: like Bobby and Trash and Mariota, some of the leadership

716
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 4: that lets you know that they feel comfortable with the

717
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 4: leadership or team as well as some of the and

718
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 4: I think Adam done at their job of filling in

719
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 4: with the replacing the d linemen and the corners and situations.

720
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 4: But I think the team is going for the best

721
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 4: athlete right now. Who's the best available player at that's available? Yep, yep,

722
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 4: most available player at twenty nine.

723
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think from the free agenty moves in the offseason,

724
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 2: best play available.

725
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know and free agency, like the best

726
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,439
Speaker 4: thing that ever happened is smooth was me and free agency. Baby,

727
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 4: that changed his life. They just want to let y'all

728
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 4: know that that changed his life. That they were doing

729
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 4: in bad jins and then I saved him the champ

730
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 4: dion and them had him out there bad that I

731
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 4: made him into something they ain't raised him right, I

732
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 4: raised him right, that's my son right there.

733
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 6: Well, I'm sorry to jump in really quickly, but uh,

734
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 6: I was sent the hall of famers. Schools with the

735
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:50,720
Speaker 6: most hall of famers?

736
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 3: Are you ready? Yes?

737
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 6: Number one is Notre Dame.

738
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 2: Notre Dame has the most hall of famers. Not Ohio

739
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 2: State A right, so he was already right there.

740
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 6: Nick to University of Southern California.

741
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 3: Us C, y'all USC.

742
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:04,479
Speaker 4: Who else?

743
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 6: Three is Michigan, Michigan, got y'all with you living then

744
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 6: Ohio State is tied with Pitt.

745
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 2: Ohio State is tied with Pitt.

746
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 4: We we got a couple coming in now, but don't

747
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 4: worry about it. Couple coming in.

748
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 3: I don't see you, oh my goodness.

749
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 2: The one thing I can say about Ohio State, they

750
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 2: will sell you a dirty old shoe and tell you that.

751
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 3: Brand new.

752
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 4: Jordan's Ohio State is the future.

753
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 3: Boy, Hey, not the rod with their bluefoot. Man, thank

754
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 3: you for coming home. Man, it's been great. Hey Sean,

755
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 3: it's always going to see your face, come and see us,

756
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 3: Come and see us.

757
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 4: Though I need to come see need a little more professional. Listen.

758
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 3: That's when I said, we'll talk to you man. That's

759
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 3: you been here man, always see Seawan. We'll get him

760
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 3: in here bringing in that's my guy. Man, We're bigger.

761
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 3: That's what we do. That's what we always did. Like

762
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 3: he's an awkward dude.

763
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 2: Like the first time, like we signed him, I was

764
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 2: in the locker room working out.

765
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 3: It was the off season. I was just chilling. I

766
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 3: used to stay here in the off season.

767
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 2: And he walks in there right out he side his contract.

768
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 2: He introduces himself to me only the way that Shun

769
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 2: Spreeds came, just as arrogant as he could be. He

770
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 2: shakes my hand and say, it's a privilege for you

771
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 2: to play with me. I can't wait for you to

772
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 2: be the robbin to my batman.

773
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 3: What did you say to that?

774
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 4: I was like, who are you?

775
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 3: Like, dude, what is wrong with y'all?

776
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 2: Like, dude, you know I just played with like three

777
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 2: yellow jackets right right, like who are you?

778
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 3: He like, there's nothing. That's when I was like, this

779
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 3: dude right here, You're like I like him, Like he's

780
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 3: on his own, like the one thing you don't have

781
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 3: to worry about with shun springs. He all wnt have confidence.

782
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 2: Yeah I didn't watch this do get burnt for one

783
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 2: hundred yards and he just like, I'm so damn good.

784
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 3: And I'm like, You're not. You just you smoking a cigarette? Yeah,

785
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 3: you just lost the game. I'm still crazy. You just

786
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 3: lost the game singer handily by yourself. Hey, this hill Man.

787
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: The space of Mills real quick and then get to

788
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Speaker 1: the man event. Adam Peters is here to talk to

789
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 1: us this summer. Seek Geek has your ticket to the

790
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: best live concerts in the DMV at Northwest Stadium.

791
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,080
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792
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793
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794
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795
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,920
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Speaker 1: starts with.

799
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 3: Sea Geek And now for the main event, Let's do

800
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 3: it all right, Welcome to the Get Loud Show.

801
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,959
Speaker 2: I don't have my cast make today, but I got

802
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 2: somebody even better.

803
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,760
Speaker 3: Mister Adam Peters, thank you for wanted me today.

804
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 5: Oh thanks for having me.

805
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 3: Ask me Michael Jenkins. Jenks a great guy, but when

806
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 3: I really want to pick your brain? All right, this

807
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 3: is this where we're going year two of this gig

808
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 3: right here? Does it feel different this year than last year?

809
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 2: Because I know, like last year was laying the foundation

810
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 2: and I'm sure it had to be hard with you.

811
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 2: You know, the first year you're doing the job. But

812
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 2: now you in the second year, it's kind of routine.

813
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 2: Does it feel sort of like the same?

814
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 7: I think it hit the nail on the head. We've

815
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 7: done everything once for the most part.

816
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're still always surprises.

817
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 7: But last year I was almost like a chicken with

818
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,919
Speaker 7: my head cut off trying to figure everything out.

819
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 5: You know, where is this? Where's new home? Everything?

820
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 4: Riding?

821
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: Right?

822
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm living in an apartment, you know, And so

823
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 7: I feel a lot more settled now.

824
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 5: Personally.

825
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 7: I think last year almost felt like a startup in

826
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 7: terms of, you know, it's just a few of us

827
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 7: doing free agency, a few of us, and now we

828
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 7: have a full staff. We're able to hire a full

829
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 7: staff over the off season, and we got a lot

830
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 7: of great people in place, which is awesome. So a

831
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 7: lot slower, a lot less hectic, and a.

832
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 3: Little bit more methodical in the way you're doing things.

833
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 2: And like you said, you did have to put a

834
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 2: lot of people in place when you first got here,

835
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 2: and not only put them in place, understand where you

836
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 2: was in the hierarchy to get things done.

837
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 3: Does it like, what's the biggest thing that you learned

838
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 3: from last year that you bring into this year when

839
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 3: it comes to the GM job.

840
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think, but really the biggest thing, and I

841
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 7: think I knew this, but I really really solidified it

842
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 7: this year.

843
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 5: Is bringing in great people, you know.

844
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, and that's players like yourself, right, and coaches and

845
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 7: then our staff. So bringing in great people, like minded people,

846
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 7: people that are we're not just looking for commanders as

847
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 7: players look of commanders in our front office and our

848
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 7: coaching staff. So surrounding yourself with the great people that

849
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 7: love the work, that love ball. I think that's been

850
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 7: the biggest thing is and that's really helped us like

851
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 7: throughout the whole organization.

852
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 3: And not just bringing these people in.

853
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 2: You have to actually like trust them to do what

854
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 2: you asked them to do and what you hired them

855
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,760
Speaker 2: to do. And I know from playing sometimes it's harder.

856
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 2: That's easier said than done, you.

857
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 7: Know, Yeah, you really try to hire people that you

858
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 7: think can carry what you're trying to do when you're

859
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 7: not there. Yeah, And so I think we've done a

860
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 7: great job of that. We have an incredible staff, incredible

861
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 7: coaching staff, and the players all are you know, they're

862
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 7: all real commanders. The guys we brought in in the

863
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 7: off season, the guys we brought in last year, the

864
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 7: guys we drafted.

865
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 5: So we feel really good about that.

866
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 2: And when you say commanders, because I've heard this time

867
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 2: and time again in the culture and everything, when you

868
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 2: shopping for a player, you don't just look at the

869
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 2: free agent list and say, Okay, who's the best free agent?

870
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 2: You say, no, I'm looking for guys that fit the

871
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 2: ingredients of a commander.

872
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 3: What what are those ingredients?

873
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a big secret.

874
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 3: You can't give me that sixteen.

875
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 5: You give me the main ingredients for not the secret ones.

876
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 3: I totally understand.

877
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 2: Could you take me just a day, because the one

878
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 2: thing I had always said is if I want to

879
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 2: do something in football, at the football, it will be

880
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 2: a gm a vera whole job with a lot of pressure.

881
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,879
Speaker 2: Could you take me down through an average day when

882
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 2: free agency begins, which you still having the draft looming

883
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 2: behind you.

884
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's hard.

885
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 7: You really have to compartmentalize because free agency, especially last

886
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 7: year and then this year as well. We had twenty

887
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 7: eight free agents this year, so we had to really

888
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 7: fill in a lot of Yeah, so you almost put

889
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 7: the draft on pause for that week and really dig

890
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 7: into free agency and dig into the phone calls, calling

891
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 7: the agents, you know, talking to the coach, to our

892
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 7: coaches and our staff and really building that and making

893
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 7: sure that all right, here's the guys we're really targeting,

894
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 7: and again trying to target those commanders.

895
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 5: That we talked about.

896
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 7: But if that guy, we don't get that guy, or

897
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 7: that price is too high, who's our next guy? And

898
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 7: so really that week you're just hitting pause on the

899
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 7: draft and then as soon as you fill that in

900
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 7: when we signed tons of guys, we feel really good now,

901
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 7: but we're going into free agency. We had the second

902
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 7: least players on our roster in the whole NFL. Yeah,

903
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 7: and so after we did that, now we can turn

904
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 7: back to the draft and.

905
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 5: Now we're full speed into the draft.

906
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 3: Did you look at this free agency?

907
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 2: Say, you know, I read a will and deal with

908
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 2: some teams because with Laramie Tooms was like, I got

909
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 2: to give you some props.

910
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 3: I feel like you stole.

911
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 2: Him and getting a guy like him and getting Deebo Samuels.

912
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 2: Did you sit out you know, I got my eye

913
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 2: on these guys or did you understand the situation those

914
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:21,919
Speaker 2: teams was going through.

915
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 5: I think yeah, both are different.

916
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 7: I think with with Deebo being available, I'll start with Debo, yeah,

917
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 7: And with him being available and knowing Deebo since really

918
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 7: before we drafted in in San Francisco, we actually coached

919
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 7: him at the Senior Bowl too, so we got to

920
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 7: wrote him really early. Ye, and then seeing who he is,

921
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 7: how he plays, how he works, what kind of teammate

922
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 7: he is, and then obviously seeing firsthand in person how

923
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 7: he can change a game.

924
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 3: Like he is.

925
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 5: True, he's a whiper, yeah he is.

926
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 7: He is somebody who lifts everybody else competitively on the field.

927
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 7: So having that opportunity, that was really cool to get

928
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 7: him and get Jaden in our offense another weapon that

929
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 7: can take it to the house at any time. And

930
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 7: then the other thing we really wanted to do is

931
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 7: is get a left tackle, a great left tackle, and

932
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 7: those are hard.

933
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 3: They don't follow, They only don't come available, like.

934
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 5: The usually don't.

935
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 7: You're right, and so we were like, especially picking twenty

936
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 7: ninth in the draft, yeah, okay, can we find a

937
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 7: real left tackle, like a starting left tackle? Brandon calm

938
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 7: It did an incredible job he did last year and

939
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 7: he can play anywhere on the line, which is great.

940
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 7: So let's find, like, you know, an elite left tackle

941
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 7: that you know, Jaden can feel really great and comfortable

942
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 7: with covering his blind side. And so when that opportunity

943
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 7: came about, you know, we jumped on it and we

944
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 7: thought it was really important to do that. And you

945
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 7: know it's you know, after that, it's just yeah, find

946
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 7: the compensation.

947
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 3: I think it changes the hierarchy of the offensive line.

948
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 2: Like you said, with Coleman being able to move from

949
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,720
Speaker 2: here to here, it just takes it up to another level.

950
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 2: And not not just these guys that you brought through

951
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 2: trades and free agents, what about our own guys that

952
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 2: you brought back with Bobby Waglan and Zach Ertz. How

953
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 2: important was it to bring these locker room star wars

954
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 2: back and to keep things moving forward?

955
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 7: Yeah, that was our priority, is to bring our guys back,

956
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 7: the guys that we saw as commanders, and we targeted

957
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 7: a lot of our own free agents because those are

958
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 7: the guys that really were the core of how what

959
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 7: we did last year. Guys like Bobby, guys like Zach,

960
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 7: So those are the first order of business really, and

961
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 7: bringing those guys back and their leadership and not only

962
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 7: their leadership, but they're play on the field, giving somebody

963
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 7: that like for in Zach's case, a weapon for Jayden

964
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 7: that he knows is going to always be open safety recovery.

965
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 3: Is the quarterbacks favorite free and in his league.

966
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 7: And then Bobby is the leader of the team and

967
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 7: the quarterback of the defense. So getting those guys back

968
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,280
Speaker 7: that was priority one A and one B really, along

969
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 7: with other guys like Marcus and then those guys. But

970
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 7: it was really really cool to get those guys back

971
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 7: and they wanted to be back, which.

972
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 5: Was really neat.

973
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been say not just dn't want to be here.

974
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 2: It's it's the buzz around the league that a lot

975
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 2: of players look at us as a destination and I

976
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 2: was here doing the other times where we wasn't a destination.

977
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 2: So as an X player, it feels good that people

978
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 2: is seeking a out right now.

979
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 3: So I begged it up most definitely. And I got

980
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 3: to ask you the way you go about free agency?

981
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 2: Do you go about gris as you get things done

982
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 2: in free agency because you want to have a more

983
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 2: free flowing draft. You don't want to corner yourself in

984
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 2: the draft. You want to go in and say, you

985
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 2: know what, if I want to go best play a vaide,

986
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 2: I don't care who it is.

987
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think you always want to go into a

988
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 7: draft with that mindset, and you never really want to

989
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 7: go into a draft saying I need to draft this

990
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 7: position or this player, because that's you know, oftentimes that's

991
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 7: when you make a mistake. When you reach for a guy,

992
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 7: You talk yourself into a guy being better than he

993
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 7: is just because you need it.

994
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 5: So bad.

995
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 7: So we feel really good that we don't have to

996
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 7: reach for a certain position or player. We can go

997
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 7: in and you know, pick the best guy that fits

998
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 7: our team at any position.

999
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 2: Really yep, and I think I think this is very sport.

1000
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 2: I think that's very awesome. Newsome on you right there.

1001
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 3: I like that right there. Now we're gonna play a

1002
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,240
Speaker 3: game and a set up a game for you. It's tightening,

1003
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 3: right yeah, all right.

1004
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 5: So we're gonna do it in college guys.

1005
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, junior college, baby, understand. We know how hard it

1006
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 2: is to get through stuff. I appreciate people that with

1007
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 2: the junior college it's not easy. Favoritebody, all right, we

1008
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 2: got a tight ends least I want you to draft

1009
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 2: the top five tight ends of all time, your top five.

1010
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 2: So it's not really a wrong answer here.

1011
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 3: You can go off of the sheet if you don't

1012
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 3: have you.

1013
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, you got some guys, but well you said one

1014
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 7: of the guys that definitely belongs in consideration. You just

1015
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 7: said his name Ozzie Newsom Newson, and he's you know,

1016
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 7: Hall of famer as a player and as a executive.

1017
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 7: In my mind, definitely, But you know, there's so many

1018
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 7: tight ends, and you know, those are the guys I

1019
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 7: looked up to, obviously, So you know there's guys that

1020
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 7: were I didn't see Mike Dick to play.

1021
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 3: Right, all right, need one but he but he.

1022
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 5: I'm sure belongs in guys like John Mackie. You know

1023
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 5: those guys.

1024
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 7: I can't speak to the guys growing up that I

1025
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 7: really liked or I think you if you're going top five,

1026
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 7: you can't leave off Tony g Right guns has.

1027
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 3: Played against him. One of the hardest covers is a

1028
00:46:59,360 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 3: tight end.

1029
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we both agree with him and Assie newsoon

1030
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 2: so we two for two, right now.

1031
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 5: Okay, I think you gotta throw a Gronk in there.

1032
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 7: It's a little bit of recency bias, but you know

1033
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 7: my lifetime Gronk's pretty special.

1034
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 3: Grunk is special. Where are you a uh mmm? Who

1035
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 3: am I thinking about? Jeremy Shocky? Guy?

1036
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 2: Shocky is good because I thought Jeremy Shocky shock the

1037
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 2: world for a second, right there? Keith Byers, Keith Well,

1038
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 2: Keith Jackson, King Jackson, mean yeah, Keith Jackson, and you.

1039
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 5: Got let's go, uh the original Kellen Winslow.

1040
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 3: Yes, you all right? For the Sandago charges. Yeah, yeah,

1041
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 3: all right, So there's four.

1042
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 5: I got, well, and we've more than five.

1043
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 4: Let's do it.

1044
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 3: I will watch it out. Stop For who else you got?

1045
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 5: I got a sleeper for you. You gotta come up.

1046
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 5: Russ Francis. Russ Francis for the Patriots ers, Yeah, yeah, right.

1047
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 3: What about the forty nine ers? Now we can't leave

1048
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 3: our brid Jones now.

1049
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 5: But Jones' the reason why we wore eighty four heroes.

1050
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 3: Right, that's what I'm talking about. And you got who

1051
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 3: you got?

1052
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 5: You got kittled Now he's pretty.

1053
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 3: Good cowboys also with what's his name? Whedon?

1054
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, there's a good one long.

1055
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 3: Line of tight ends.

1056
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 5: Great position.

1057
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 7: It's a hard position. Man, you got a block, you

1058
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 7: got to catch, you gotta know everything.

1059
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 2: So who you feel if you had to pick one,

1060
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 2: was the most equal in both it's a pass catcher

1061
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 2: and there's a blocker, the most complete tight end.

1062
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 3: Who would you go? Jayon ovcheck?

1063
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,879
Speaker 7: I think you know what was really cool about Tony

1064
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,399
Speaker 7: Exhaust is he was not a blocker when he started. Yeah,

1065
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 7: but by the end of his career he became a

1066
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 7: good blocker. Was he a dominant block No, but he

1067
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 7: was good even an elite receiver.

1068
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 5: So I think and he.

1069
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 2: Had one of the most elite offensive lines I've ever

1070
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 2: seen with Will Shields and the rist of those guys

1071
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 2: they had, so I think they told him put the

1072
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 2: pressure on him to block.

1073
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, most definitely this.

1074
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 2: This was very Thank you for taking time, if for getting.

1075
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 5: Loud, Thanks for being here, Pete.

1076
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:04,720
Speaker 3: Thanks thanks.

1077
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:15,760
Speaker 4: Three, six, seven, nine seven.

1078
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1079
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1080
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,120
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