1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Angie and this is Carly, your favorite 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Okay Storytime hosts, and we've got some great stories coming up. 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: But before that, we have a quick two minute break 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: from our sponsors that keep the show alive. My husband 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: cheated during our son's treatment, so I took everything we heard. 6 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: My husband and I had three kids eight, six and two, 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: the oldest of which has cancer. The mistress has two 8 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: kids four and twenty. 9 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 2: My husband and I had the have had the occasional 10 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 2: conflict here and there, and while I acknowledge it can 11 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 2: sometimes be a struggle, we generally got along well and 12 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 2: always apologized by the end. By the way, this comes 13 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 2: from Throwaway seven six, eight nine, and if you want 14 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: to submit your own stories, go to the r slash 15 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 2: Okay Storytime supperate it Dan. 16 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 3: I'm Angie, I'm Riley. 17 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 2: We're here to give good advice, goofy, but we don't 18 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 2: have all the answers. We just know what we would 19 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 2: do in this situation, So let us know what you 20 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 2: would do in the comments. So Op says, though the 21 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: conflicts we had were only occasional, they did sometimes feel 22 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 2: like a lose lose situation because neither of us felt 23 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 2: like our feelings were being heard to defense mechanisms and 24 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: other triggers. 25 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 4: I had asked several. 26 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 2: Times if we could see a therapist and work out 27 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 2: some better conflict resolution skills, and he always said he 28 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 2: wanted to think about it, but never actually agreed. I 29 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 2: decided to attend individual therapy to work on my own 30 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 2: resolution skills. Despite this, we had what I perceived to 31 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 2: be and otherwise pretty happy and loving relationship, full of 32 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 2: laughter and connectedness. Unfortunately, this week, my husband unexpectedly told 33 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 2: me he has fallen out of love with me and 34 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 2: that he wants a divorce on my birthday. He said 35 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 2: it was because of how we handle conflict together, and 36 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 2: he's known for a couple of years that it was inevitable. 37 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 2: I was completely blindsided by this because I would often 38 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: periodically check in to see if he was happy, and 39 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 2: he had always said yes. He said brutal things about 40 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 2: dreading being in the room with me and being intimate 41 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 2: with me. I was absolutely shattered. He became so harsh 42 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 2: and cold that it was like he was a different person. 43 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 2: He has never talked to me like that in sixteen years. 44 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 2: He said he won a fifty to fifty custody of 45 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 2: my kids, and I was crushed because. 46 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 4: My babies are my entire life. 47 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: Friends and family were concerned that he was cheating. I 48 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: worked twelve hour shifts and rely on my husband to 49 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 2: do school pickups, but lately he was frequently working through lunches, 50 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 2: which left my parents to pick up the kids. He 51 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 2: also worked late and would delay picking up my kids 52 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 2: from their graduations. 53 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 4: Nope, he also. 54 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: Worked late and would delay picking my kids up from 55 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 2: their grandparents' house for a couple of hours. I was 56 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: always so appreciative of how hard he worked for our family. 57 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 2: I didn't want to believe it, but when I checked 58 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 2: his phone, I discovered everything. 59 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,399 Speaker 4: Lots of photos from both of them. 60 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 5: Videos of them having spicy sleep at work, videos of 61 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 5: them having spices sleep in hotels, face selfies of my 62 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 5: husband waiting in my son's chemo room, conversations about arguments 63 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 5: my husband and I had, and the mistress responding and 64 00:02:58,040 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 5: saying that I had to get an. 65 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 2: Effing cou and that she was happy he was able 66 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 2: to put it back on me. I screenshotted everything and 67 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,839 Speaker 2: sent them to myself before I confronted him. Turns out 68 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 2: he is in love with his mistress and wants to 69 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 2: be with her. He said it's complicated and that she 70 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 2: has not told her husband about the affair. It's been 71 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 2: going on for over a year. My son was literally 72 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 2: diagnosed with his kid September, and I'm honestly sick to 73 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 2: my stomach knowing what he has done throughout that time. 74 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,839 Speaker 2: Despite it all, I am completely devastated to lose him. 75 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 2: His conversations with her look like a completely different person. 76 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: Never in a million years would I have guessed that 77 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 2: that was him. I sent him away to sleep in 78 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 2: his work office that night, but the following day he 79 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 2: called and said he wants to be with his kids 80 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: and be at the house indefinitely until he finally is 81 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 2: a divorce. He has a right to be in his 82 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 2: own home, but being around him has been making me 83 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: physically ill. I am absolutely miserable, clueless on where to start, 84 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 2: and heartbroken watching him leave the house and knowing where 85 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 2: he is going. I've told him that legally I am 86 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 2: still his wife and that I do not want him 87 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 2: talking to his mistress at all while he's under my 88 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 2: roof or around the kids. He has agreed to do that, 89 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 2: but he has been so deceptive that it doesn't mean 90 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 2: much to me anymore. I can't imagine being stuck in 91 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 2: this situation for months or longer. He even had the 92 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: nerve to ask me if his mistress can be around 93 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 2: my kids. I am so furious, so sad, so distressed, 94 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 2: and just feel like I want to pass away. My 95 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 2: kids don't know what's going on yet, but they have 96 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 2: been sensing that I've been distressed. I'm trying to hold 97 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 2: it together and lean on family and friends. I'm also 98 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 2: super stressed out about losing our home. My husband is 99 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 2: wanting to sell it, and my parents have mentioned they 100 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 2: may be able to buy him out. I haven't told 101 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 2: my husband this because I need to figure out how 102 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 2: that might work, and I don't want to make his 103 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,679 Speaker 2: life any easier at this point. My credit is meh 104 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 2: and interest rates are so high, though that I'm afraid 105 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 2: I won't be able to keep my low interest rate 106 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 2: from when I bought that home a few years ago 107 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 2: if they were to buy him out. It's all just 108 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 2: too much to lose at once. I can't eat, I've 109 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 2: lost ten pounds in one week. It can't sleep. 110 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 4: I've never been so depressed in my entire life. In 111 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 4: one week. 112 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 2: Almost every single aspect of my life has been threatened. 113 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 2: Someone tell me it gets better, because I'm barely hanging 114 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 2: on and we do have an update, But please, I'm 115 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 2: sure it gets better. 116 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 3: It does. I've read stories whenever people break up and 117 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 3: it works out for them. Yeah, hang in there. There 118 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 3: is a rock bottom. There's a literal rock bottom. 119 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 4: You're looking for, hope, terrible thing that's happened to you. 120 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 3: Oh my god, guys, how did you guys deal with breakups? 121 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 3: Put it in the comments. 122 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 4: I'd love to see people cheating situations. I mean, it's 123 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 4: got to get better. 124 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 2: There's no way that your life around a terrible person 125 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 2: is the best it's gonna be. 126 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 3: Oh no, it will get better. It will get better. 127 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna suck for a while, but you will 128 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 2: get over it and you will get custody of your 129 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 2: children because hey, what what. 130 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 3: If that mistress comes around? I have a baseball bat 131 00:05:58,880 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 3: with her name on it. 132 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 2: Haha. 133 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 4: There you go, there you go. Do you have an 134 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:04,799 Speaker 4: update on dear mistress? 135 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 2: Over one month later, it's been a few weeks since 136 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 2: I found out about your affair with my husband. I 137 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 2: recently read the messages you shared with my husband during 138 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 2: the most vulnerable and painful conflict of my life. I 139 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 2: saw what you wrote about how you felt I should 140 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 2: get an fing clue and that you were happy that 141 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 2: my husband was able to put it back on me. 142 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 2: I would like to share with you what exactly was 143 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 2: on the line during that conversation and why I was 144 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 2: so shocked and devastated by it. In an instant, everything 145 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 2: I have loved for the last sixteen years was taken 146 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 2: from me when he mentioned divorce. It was a complete blindside. 147 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 2: That word had never come up in this entire length 148 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 2: of our relationship together. I'm not blind to the fact 149 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 2: that conflict was sometimes a struggle. It was something we 150 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 2: were working on, and we regularly made an effort to 151 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 2: try to listen and apologize. I was also prioritizing therapy 152 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 2: to help improve our conflicts resolution skills and identify any 153 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: unhealthy defense mechanisms that we had. Whenever I asked him 154 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 2: to try therapy, he always said he wanted to think 155 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 2: about it, but ultimately he never did. Outside of that, 156 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 2: we had what I had perceived to be an overall 157 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 2: happy relationship full of love, friendship, and laughter. When I 158 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 2: was uncertain how he was feeling. I would ask him, 159 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 2: and he always said he was happy and that he 160 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 2: loved me. It is clear now that he was lying, 161 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 2: but at the time all I had was his word 162 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 2: and his actions to go off. Of the day he 163 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 2: mentioned divorce, I was suddenly facing the potential to lose 164 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 2: the love of my life, my best friend, my home, 165 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 2: and the livelihood of my three babies with no warning. 166 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 2: I'm sure you can imagine how that might feel. Imagine 167 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 2: now that your life is crumbling before you, and then 168 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 2: you are left in darkness for days, uncertain whether it 169 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 2: all lives or ends. This is how I felt during 170 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 2: the conversation that my husband retold you. I was terrified 171 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 2: of losing my family. I couldn't eat or sleep. All 172 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 2: I thought about was what it meant for my kids 173 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 2: and my sixteen year relationship. Each day that went by, 174 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 2: my husband repeated that he was too tired to talk. 175 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 2: After a couple of days of this, I needed answers 176 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 2: for the sake of my family. See that you wrote 177 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 2: how aggravated you were that my emotions and feelings needed 178 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 2: to be addressed immediately for my own relief. 179 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 4: Sincerely, I hope. 180 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 2: You never have to go through the terror of this 181 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 2: same ordeal. Never in my life have I felt such 182 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 2: overwhelming pain and sadness ever, but thank you for your input. Anyway, 183 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 2: I am writing this letter from one woman to another. 184 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 6: Now. 185 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 2: My husband made a choice to be unfaithful in our marriage. 186 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 2: He is the one that chose to violate that promise 187 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 2: and I always will hold him. 188 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 4: Accountable for that. 189 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 2: That being said, you should also know that your affair 190 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 2: with him has destroyed an entire family. My sons are 191 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 2: sensing the distress in the air and have been asking 192 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 2: where their dad is. They wait to eat dinner with 193 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 2: him until their food gets cold because they want to 194 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 2: eat as a family. They have been frequently asking why 195 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: he is so late. I also rely on my husband 196 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 2: to pick up the kids from school on the days 197 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 2: that I work, and have noticed that lately he has 198 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 2: had to work through lunches and stay late, which left 199 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 2: my older parents to have to pick them up from 200 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 2: school and take care of them for hours longer than 201 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 2: they expected to while the boys waited for the dad. 202 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 2: And I reading that, remembering that some of the videos 203 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 2: of them having spicy sleep were taken at work. 204 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 3: Yup, that's why I was there so late. He was 205 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 3: layingsome pipe was working all right. Janitor said, Hey, we 206 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 3: need someone to help us lay some pipe for our 207 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 3: new water system, and he said, sign me up. Oh 208 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 3: my gosh, I know how to lay pipe. 209 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 4: Getting into the movie business. 210 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 2: Now I know why he was always late, But they don't. 211 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 2: The kids don't understand why. The oldest son is also 212 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 2: going through chemo treatments and pending assessments for autism. He 213 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 2: doesn't respond well to change, and we have been very 214 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 2: concerned with how this news will affect his condition and recovery. 215 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 2: If he relapses after the situation, you should know that 216 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 2: I will blame you for it. My two year old 217 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 2: has been crying almost constantly and clinging to us as 218 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 2: we try to leave. He is a baby and was 219 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 2: under a year old when you started this, but they 220 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 2: pick up on more than you think. My six year 221 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 2: old asked why his dad wasn't there in the morning, 222 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 2: and I had to lie to him and tell him 223 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 2: that he was working early. 224 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 4: I also want to thank you. 225 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 2: For the lovely surprise of realizing that I needed to 226 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 2: make an appointment to check for STDs. 227 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 4: As a grown married adults. 228 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 2: My husband has been intimate with me throughout your entire affair. 229 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 2: I know you are also married, and so it's safe 230 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 2: to assume that you have also been intimate with your 231 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 2: husband all this time too. I just don't know why 232 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 2: you wouldn't rather use the strength of your womanhood to 233 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 2: further your sisters. Instead, you have chosen the cowardly root 234 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 2: of tearing other women down to further your own ends. 235 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 2: You know that he is a married man, and. 236 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 4: You laugh about it. 237 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 2: He just had a baby, and he has a wife 238 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 2: and three kids. I just don't understand what kind of 239 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 2: self respecting woman would do something like this. You have 240 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 2: caused me so much pain and sorrow. I could never 241 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 2: do this to another human being. You should tell your 242 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 2: husband before I. 243 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 4: Do it for you. Oh there's a second update, dude. 244 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 6: This letter. 245 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 3: I have never heard a letter so devastating before. 246 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was so thorough, yeap and to the point 247 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 2: and everything everything. 248 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 3: But like I was the woman that cheated on your. 249 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 2: Friend, I should say sorry she read the letter, because 250 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 2: one thing about this is that it is long. 251 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 3: But well, I mean, I don't think mistress really for 252 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 3: the mistress. It was more for Hopie. 253 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, she probably, I don't even know if she sent it. 254 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 3: She put on Reddit. She probably sent her a link. 255 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 4: Yeah right, I mean, we're about to find out in 256 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 4: the second update. 257 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, broh. 258 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. 259 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 2: So this second update is from fifteen months later. First 260 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 2: and foremost, my son is official answer free. He rang 261 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 2: the bell of chemo completion at the end of twenty 262 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 2: twenty four. He is healthy and living a normal childhood 263 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 2: now with the siblings. I am truly so grateful. I 264 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 2: took the advice of many on here and got the 265 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 2: best attorney in town, called multiple other high talent ones 266 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 2: as well to get consultations, as I was told it 267 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 2: would then be a conflict of interest for them to 268 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 2: work with my husband at that point. Interesting, I filed 269 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 2: for a divorce in August twenty twenty four, and the 270 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 2: divorce was final in November. My attorney told me everything 271 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,959 Speaker 2: to say to my ex and was a secret ghostwriter 272 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 2: of my paperwork. He never even knew that I had 273 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 2: an attorney. I told my ex at the time that 274 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 2: I was trying to puzzle through the best housing scenario 275 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 2: for our kids. My oldest child was still going through 276 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 2: his chemo treatments and is also autistic, so he doesn't 277 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 2: adjust well to change I knew if we sold the house, 278 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 2: the boys would lose their childhood home and also change 279 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 2: the schools, which would be rough on them. By the 280 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 2: grace of God, my ex voluntarily offered to walk away 281 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 2: from the house and forego hundreds of thousands of dollars 282 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 2: of equity in the home if I paid off his debts. 283 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 2: He had maybe thirty K in debt and a car payment, 284 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 2: so my incredible parents helped me pay him off, and 285 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 2: we essentially bought him out of his portion of the 286 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 2: house while still keeping my low interest rate from the 287 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 2: time we purchased. My ex didn't have a hint of 288 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 2: remorse up until this point, but I think he finally 289 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 2: realized the effect all of this would have on his children. 290 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 2: He was also heavy in his affair fog and probably 291 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 2: just wanted to wash his hands of me as fast 292 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 2: as possible, So when he offered to walk from the house, 293 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 2: that was the time I ran to get an attorney 294 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 2: and make sure it was done correctly. We talked to 295 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 2: title companies at first, but the attorney told me it 296 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 2: was not necessary to do that. My ex could sign 297 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 2: an interspousal transfer deed along with our stipulated judgment and 298 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 2: the house would be legally mine. My ex and the 299 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 2: affair partner are still together. He has told my kids 300 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 2: that he has a girlfriend and plans to move in 301 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 2: with her and my kids in April. I have the 302 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 2: kids in weekly therapy and they are doing well with it. 303 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 2: My ex decided that he didn't actually want fifty to 304 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 2: fifty custody and I have seventy percent custody of them, 305 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 2: so my ex essentially gets them every other weekend and 306 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 2: one random overnight weeknight a week. That was his idea. 307 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 2: It was hard to be away from my babies, but 308 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 2: I tried to remind myself they were safe and happy 309 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 2: with their dad, and used that time to focus on myself. 310 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 2: He also pays me a large amount of child support 311 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 2: every month because of this requested custody arrangement. I'm not 312 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 2: sure he ever realized this, but it is very helpful. 313 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 2: I have revamped my home and redecorated it to make 314 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 2: it my sanctuary. I absolutely love it. My ex is 315 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 2: renting an apartment in a cheaper part of town. The 316 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 2: affair partner's husband is now aware of the circumstances and 317 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 2: they are in the process of completing their divorce. 318 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 4: I am personally doing very well now. 319 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 2: I lost a significant amount of weight and go to 320 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:52,359 Speaker 2: the gym regularly. 321 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 4: I also go to church and therapy every week. 322 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 2: I have heavily poured into my self growth and have 323 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 2: become a completely different person, full of peace and contentment. 324 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I bet yeah, dude, being with Jesus 325 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 3: during this time, Oh my gosh, I can only imagine 326 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 3: the type of growth you've had, because like the Jesus 327 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 3: is big on like love your enemies. Oh yeah, I 328 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 3: bet you love your husband even more than before you 329 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 3: were married. 330 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 4: Sure. 331 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 2: I also regularly invest in beauty treatments that make me 332 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 2: feel happy, like hairs, nails, lashes, and my confidence has 333 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 2: never been. 334 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 3: Higher, honestly, really good. That's great because I know I've 335 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 3: heard some women like they don't really work on the 336 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 3: way they look or like things like that, And that's 337 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 3: not a bad thing. But like it just the fact 338 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 3: that you're not like keeping up with yourself or like 339 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 3: taking that time to let you know the fun, have 340 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 3: fun or whatever, it really chomps at like your your 341 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 3: confidence at For a guy, I have to be competitive. 342 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 3: If I'm not in a competitive like field or anything, Yeah, 343 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 3: it chips away my confidence because it's like I don't 344 00:15:59,040 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 3: know that that's what I have. 345 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 2: My exsess still tries to trigger me and speaks in 346 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 2: a condescending tone on a regular basis. I took the 347 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 2: advice of some people on here in Gray Rock the 348 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 2: crap out of him. He truly doesn't know what to 349 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 2: do with himself anymore. It's like I've pulled an unu 350 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 2: reverse and he can't process it. Between my mental growth 351 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 2: and my physical changes, he always looks visibly confused. 352 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 4: On the bright side, the. 353 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 2: Affair partner gained a bunch of weight, and it has 354 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 2: been fun to hear people's commentary on that. Normally I'm 355 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 2: a total girls girl, but after the way she treated me, 356 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 2: I will secretly relish that I decided it was important 357 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 2: to keep conversations with my kids regarding my excess relationship 358 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 2: with the a fair partner age appropriate. 359 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 4: They don't know about. 360 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 2: The way the relationship started, but if they are older 361 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 2: and they ever ask, I will be honest with them. 362 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 4: I am now dating someone new. 363 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 2: It's been a little scary to be back out there, 364 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 2: but I'm trying to trust in time, consistency, emotional intelligence, 365 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 2: and high effort. You all deserve the same. Truly, I 366 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 2: am so grateful for every single one of you. I 367 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 2: was self harming for some time, but I saw a 368 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 2: psychiatrist and started some meds and it has changed my life. 369 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 2: The darkness gets easier. My loves hang in there and 370 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 2: message me if any of you ever need anything. 371 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 4: God bless you all. 372 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, that I mean, it gets better. Earlier we 373 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 3: were like. 374 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 4: Doesn't get any better here we are, but got answers. 375 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 3: The reason it got better is because one, you invested 376 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 3: in yourself, yes, and really grew. And like I heard 377 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 3: a quote it was like, what happened to you isn't 378 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 3: your responsibility, It's how you grow from it is your responsibility, 379 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 3: which to a lot of things that happened to people 380 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 3: are very unfair, but that's your responsibility. Is how you 381 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 3: move from that. Yeah, and it sucks and it's one 382 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 3: of the worst thing about life. But also I think 383 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 3: it's a two edged sword. One you grow and then 384 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 3: two you can reach out to people who are also 385 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 3: going through this and shows support. 386 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's and she's doing exactly that. 387 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 3: So, like, I've been in a bad relationship and I 388 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 3: know what that looks like. If I ever seen one 389 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 3: in that I could be like, hey, this is my experience, exactly. 390 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 3: You don't deserve to be in there. 391 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 4: Exactly. 392 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 2: It's very easy to fall into bad habits and meet 393 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 2: people and be in relationships that are the exact same 394 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 2: as your old one bad in the same exact way. 395 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 2: So good on you for doing the complete opposite, which 396 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 2: is take care of your Yeah, exactly. So OPI's responding 397 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 2: to the question, is Opie's exes family is still present 398 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 2: in the children's lives. Obie says, my ex occasionally takes 399 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 2: them to see his mom, who has started to have 400 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 2: some memory problems, but sadly, he was never great about 401 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 2: calling or making plans. She was so upset when she 402 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 2: found out about the affair that she wanted to change 403 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 2: her trust to my name. I had to convince her 404 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 2: not to do that. I was pretty close with his mom, 405 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 2: so I still talk to her here and there. She 406 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 2: is my kid's grandmother and. 407 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 4: A sweet lady. 408 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 2: Opie explains more about people's commentary on the affair partner's 409 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 2: weight kating. Opie says, sure the weight comments, specifically, we're 410 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 2: from friends who knew about the cheating and had seen 411 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 2: pictures of her at the start of the affair. Once 412 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 2: my ex started posting her, people started messaging me saying 413 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 2: she clearly had gained a lot of weight. I just 414 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 2: laughed and shrugged it off. But yeah, it looks like 415 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 2: she has gained forty or fifty pounds. I've literally seen 416 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 2: that girl's freaking private parts from all her super fun pigs, 417 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,199 Speaker 2: so I remember it. My ex and I had a 418 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 2: ton of mutual friends, and so even though I didn't 419 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 2: follow his posts and stories anymore, our friends had a 420 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 2: tendency to tell me about them or send them to me. 421 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 2: One of my favorites that comes to mind is when 422 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 2: a mutual friend messaged me a photo and said, wait, 423 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, is this who he left you for? 424 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 4: I thought this was his mom. 425 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 2: Another time, my heavily accented, elderly baber brought me tomatoes 426 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 2: and told me that she saw the girl waiting in 427 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 2: the car the day he was moving out, and that 428 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 2: my neighbor. 429 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 4: Gave her the biggest stinkuy. 430 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 2: Then then she said, in her English accent, ugly ugly 431 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 2: girl and love me an angry old lady. 432 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:58,360 Speaker 4: And that's the end of that story. 433 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. Best. Then it's like, you know, when a kid's 434 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 3: movie ends with like a dance scene, this is like 435 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 3: an adult movie. And then with like a stinky from 436 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 3: an old lady. I'm a lovely old lady. 437 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 6: It's like lady. 438 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 3: It has the same effect on me. 439 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 4: And that's the end of this story. We're going on 440 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 4: to the next one. 441 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 3: I left my husband even though he's sick because he's 442 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 3: draining me in. 443 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 4: Sickness and health came with conditions. 444 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 3: Hi thirty two, female Luisa. I've been married to John 445 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 3: forty eight mil four approximately two and a half years. 446 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 3: We've been together for five years. I have a son, 447 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 3: Carlos fifteen mail from a previous relationship, and we all 448 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 3: live together in a rented suplex. By the way, this 449 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 3: comes from Successful Dirt seventy two. If you want to 450 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 3: speaking own stories, go to the our slash okay stories. 451 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 3: I'm sub Reddit, I'm Riley, I'm Angie, and we're here 452 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 3: to give goodvice. Goofully. We don't know that much, but 453 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 3: if you guys have anything you'd like to add to 454 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 3: the story, please put in the comics down below and 455 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 3: I'll read them. Opie says how the issue. John has 456 00:20:55,640 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 3: a mystery medical issue that causes seizures, passing out, and 457 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 3: even memory loss very rarely, and it does come back eventually. 458 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 3: I've been helping with him since it started about a 459 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 3: year ago. Every issue that started to take place prior 460 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 3: to his health problems, which eventually spiraled into his health 461 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 3: frenzy began small. I didn't think much of it at 462 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 3: the time, and it continued to grow and become a 463 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 3: much bigger problem on a much greater scale. It began 464 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 3: with the truck purchase. I helped him and supported my 465 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 3: husband with a self employed business opportunity that he was 466 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 3: highly interested in at the time, getting it set up 467 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 3: and running, where the purchase of this vehicle was part 468 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 3: of the process. Due to his low credit, he had 469 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 3: the finances for it, we had to use my credit. 470 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 3: We settled on the verbal understanding slash agreement that we 471 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 3: would keep the truck under my credit for one year, 472 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 3: giving him time to better his score, and then refinance 473 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 3: it on his name so I could remove my name 474 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 3: from the vehicle. Moving forward, leaving the dealership, I was 475 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 3: laid as the owner and my husband as the co owner. 476 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 3: Fast forward, John started falling short with payments, so I 477 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 3: had to front the money so I would be penalized 478 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 3: since it was under my name in credit. He missed payments, 479 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 3: lied about making payments, which all led to me finding 480 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 3: out about the vehicle being repossessed. Let me be clear, 481 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 3: he never told me the truth about this matter. I 482 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 3: actually called the financial service company to inquire about the 483 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 3: truck's payments since I wasn't getting answers from my husband, 484 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 3: and that's when they informed me about the repossession and 485 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 3: the resale at auction. My husband's excuse the entire time 486 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 3: I asked where the truck was was that it was 487 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 3: at the mechanics at that time. The truck did have 488 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 3: some electrical issues, so I believed him. He had nothing 489 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 3: to say when I confronted him on this matter and 490 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 3: offered no plan to make it right. Only ridiculous excuses. 491 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:01,479 Speaker 3: Are we divorcing? I think so continually lying, hiding the truth, 492 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 3: not owning up to what you're saying, O car Adie. 493 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 3: To repair the damage he caused, I worked out a 494 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 3: deal with the finance company that cut the price of 495 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 3: what was still remaining and owed on the truck with 496 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 3: the lowest monthly prize for him to pay back each 497 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 3: month on the due date of his choosing All this 498 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 3: information was discussed carefully with him before I confirmed with 499 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 3: the finance company. He did all right at first, but 500 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 3: then I had to stay on top of him each 501 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 3: month and demanded that the payments would be sent to 502 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 3: me so I can ensure he was actually paying them. 503 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 3: He eventually stopped giving me the payments, replying with excuses 504 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 3: about not having enough money or why he couldn't pay. 505 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 3: Let me add that my husband works two jobs and 506 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 3: is a retired veteran, and is a retired veteran medically 507 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 3: retired who does receive a percentage of disability and retirement pay, 508 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 3: so he makes money consistently and more than me. I 509 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,959 Speaker 3: will add that he is not received the full one 510 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 3: hundred percent them ount, but close to it. The next 511 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 3: event he affected us was The next event he affected 512 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 3: was the rent on our previous apartment and our current 513 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 3: house that we are renting. We lived at a apartment 514 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 3: complex which was in my name, with my mother as 515 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 3: a co signer. Because my credit got us to place, 516 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 3: we had to use my income, my husband's income, and 517 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 3: my mom's in order to show that we could financially 518 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 3: qualify the sole purpose of my mom co signing was 519 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 3: to meet the complex's requirements and the tennis must show 520 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 3: three extra rent. The monthly rent would be taken care 521 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 3: of with my husband's via pay and our income. We 522 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 3: lived there for four years, and towards the last year 523 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 3: and a half, I got some rude surprises and learned 524 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 3: and my husband didn't pay rent and almost got us evicted, 525 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 3: not once, but twice and almost three times. He never 526 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 3: communicated further about this matter and I had to fight 527 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 3: find out the hard way, getting some notices and knocks 528 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 3: on my door before this all happened. Let me note 529 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 3: that I had given him endless support, advice, and tons 530 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 3: of resources throughout this entire process. During our last year 531 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 3: at the apartment, we moved out mid May twenty twenty 532 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 3: five into our current house. We worked out a payment 533 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 3: plan between each other to move out of our apartment 534 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 3: two months early before lease ended. The landlord for the 535 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 3: new rental would only give us an additional two week 536 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 3: period to move in, and we didn't want to be 537 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 3: stuck without a new place to go. It took me 538 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 3: months to find the new house. He was unable to 539 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 3: work with our two month move out timeframe, and it 540 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 3: made more sense to go this route as we would 541 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 3: have paid more to break our release early. Without sufficient 542 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 3: funds for the new rental, a plan was in place 543 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 3: to balance both places for the next two months. I 544 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 3: checked in multiple times to reconfirm that everything was on schedule, 545 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 3: and he reassured me he was kin towing to make payments. 546 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 3: But do we believe this guy? And oh yeah, he's 547 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 3: not doing it, Tom and Tom McGann. He's proven you wrong. 548 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 2: We're getting evicted, getting evicted almost three times because of 549 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 2: your failure to pay. You can't just say, oh, yeah, 550 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 2: I'll pay and expect me to believe you. 551 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 3: Now, yeah, I got your baby. 552 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: What. 553 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 4: No, that's like me saying I'm gonna be on time 554 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 4: for something. You think you're gonna believe me. 555 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,479 Speaker 2: Only a smart person would not believe me. 556 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,199 Speaker 3: Fast forward, I received letters stating that we needed to 557 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 3: evacuate the premises by an impossible deadline and that nearly 558 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 3: four thousand dollars was owed to the complex. Thank goodness, 559 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 3: we had already moved everything into a new place. In 560 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 3: front of my husband about this matter, he declared he 561 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 3: had paid, was paying, and would look into why I 562 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 3: was receiving these letters. Time passed with no word from him. 563 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 3: More time passed and he provided no real anne, so 564 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 3: regarding the issue, having to take things to my own hands. 565 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,959 Speaker 3: I eventually got the records of his transaction histories and 566 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,239 Speaker 3: it came to the heart sinking truth he did not 567 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 3: pay rent as he had planned during the last few months. 568 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 3: This info was sent to the credit bureau and now 569 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 3: impacts my ability to be accepted into new rentals until 570 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 3: it's fully paid back. 571 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, And now where is that money? 572 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 4: What's even spend it on you? 573 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 3: I don't know. 574 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 4: He definitely isn't gonna have the money. 575 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 2: To pay for it, so open he's gonna have to 576 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 2: pay for at least most of it. 577 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 3: Once again, my credit reputation has been penalized due to 578 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 3: his Now, currently my husband is not paying a cent 579 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 3: back towards the apartment's owed rent and fails to come 580 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 3: up with the four hundred and forty dollars short fall 581 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 3: in our current rent that his VHX do not cover 582 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:56,199 Speaker 3: each month. He doesn't care that. He doesn't care that 583 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 3: by law and contract, he legally owes the landlord this 584 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 3: money and simply won't pay it until I force it 585 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 3: out of him. He claims he never has the money, 586 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 3: despite having an entire month to come up with it. 587 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 3: I can't figure out where it all goes, and I 588 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 3: do not trust him anymore. Between all this, several situations 589 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 3: arose where we had agreed to split costs on important 590 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 3: matters medical, pets, holidays. Initially kept true to his word, 591 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 3: but quickly peered off each time, leaving me footing the 592 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 3: remaining bills, which has left me in substantial financial debt. 593 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 3: Oh he, I'm so sorry. 594 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 4: It's just one after another. 595 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. Recently I had to use his phone for a 596 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 3: legitimate reason, and while I had something, perhaps a divine message, 597 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 3: told me to check his messages. I learned that he 598 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 3: has been communicating romantically with the younger woman. There's where 599 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 3: all the money goes. Oh boy, those are expensive younger 600 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 3: women women, yep, especially the ones around twenty three years old. 601 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 3: Let me tell you about him. I could not keep 602 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 3: his phone long enough to see how far back it 603 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 3: went or if there were others. But between inappropriate pictures 604 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 3: and romantic language he has been communicating, he has been 605 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 3: committing at least emotional infidelity. The man who once told 606 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 3: me that he was not a liar, faithful and loyal, 607 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 3: has become the most dishonest man I have ever met. 608 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 3: He usually plays the victim in every scenario. Out of 609 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 3: all these things, all of these things have led me 610 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 3: to decide I need to leave him for my financial security, 611 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 3: my mental security, and the financial security of my son's future. 612 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 4: Absolutely ding ding ding. 613 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 6: Get out of them, out of this. 614 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 3: This is not sustainable whatsoever. 615 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 2: No, and I totally I didn't say it, but I 616 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 2: totally was thinking that it was to. 617 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 4: Other women in my head. 618 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 2: Really, there have been Yeah, there have been so many 619 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 2: stories where it's just like, yeah, and he's spending all 620 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 2: this money on this other world and now we're in debt. 621 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,479 Speaker 4: There's literally so many stories have been about that. 622 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 3: Other women. 623 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 2: Oh, because if he I mean, if that money's just 624 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 2: lost and he's not getting any new things, You're not 625 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 2: getting any new things. 626 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 4: The rent is not being paid, where's it going? 627 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 3: Who's spinning it? 628 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 4: Who is that? 629 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 3: Where do I begin the process of leaving him? How 630 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 3: can I leave him when his medical issues make me 631 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 3: appear like the bad guy? How do I manage to 632 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 3: get him to pay the money he owes to me 633 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 3: and others and restore my credit? Would that be the 634 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 3: ajo if I left him? When he needs me and 635 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 3: small update. Just found out he pawned his wedding band. 636 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 6: Is that it? 637 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 3: That's it? 638 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 7: Man? 639 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 3: Oh my god, Yeah, I read some other stuff. I 640 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 3: think it was like rambling on about like how her 641 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 3: sister helped has been helping her. It wasn't really that 642 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 3: much information, but yeah. 643 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 2: He's yikes, dude, Oh my god. 644 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 3: It Yeah, if you really want your money back, like 645 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 3: set up payments or like you have a mutual fund 646 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 3: and then you get all those payments through to pay 647 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 3: off all the debts and then just leave them. 648 00:30:58,400 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, which you think, I don't. 649 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,479 Speaker 3: I don't. These medical issues are big enough where you're 650 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 3: going to seem like the bad guy. 651 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, exactly. 652 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 2: I think the best thing that you need to do 653 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 2: for your finances is go to Vegas. Gamble it, double it, 654 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 2: double it again, double it again. 655 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 6: Whoa, whoa whoa. 656 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,239 Speaker 4: Double it whoa. W Time wrap And that's the end 657 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 4: of this story. We're going on to the next one. 658 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 6: Hey, it's Dakota, your favorite goofball host here and we're 659 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 6: going to get back to the stories. But here's three 660 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 6: minutes of ads from our sponsors. My mother used my 661 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 6: brother to pressure me for money, so I went off, 662 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 6: that's a weird way to get money, I seventeen female. 663 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 6: Even weirder to press your seventeen year old daughter for money. 664 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 6: HAVE been trying to save up money for when I 665 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,239 Speaker 6: move out in a month to share an apartment with 666 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 6: my boyfriend. I'm going to go to university, and my 667 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 6: dad's offered help. But I know when I'm not in 668 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 6: control of my own money, knowing when or how I'm 669 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 6: getting it, I get really anxious about spending because I 670 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 6: used to have really bad spending habits. By the way, 671 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 6: this comes from user Fuzzy character forty one, and if 672 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 6: you want to submit your own stories, go to the 673 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 6: r slash Okay story time subreddit. I'm Dakota, I'm Riley, 674 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 6: and we are here to give you good advice. 675 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 3: Goofy yo. 676 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 6: But we don't have all the answers. We only know 677 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 6: what we'd do, So let us know what you would 678 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 6: do down in the comments. And op says, my little 679 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 6: brother fifteen male, is autistic. It isn't a severe case 680 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 6: where he's nonverbal or can't change or do anything for himself. 681 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 6: At best, you'd think he's a little dorky. My mother 682 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 6: has been known to not be the best about spending 683 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 6: her money despite having government assistance and my dad constantly 684 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 6: giving her money to fix her other money mistakes that 685 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 6: she made with his money. Ooh, I'm not fully sure 686 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 6: what's going on with all that, and I think I'll 687 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 6: get stressed if I ask my dad to explain it 688 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 6: to me. All this is sort of just context for 689 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 6: the situation. I'm also not mad at my brother, as 690 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 6: he stuck up for me before anyone else asks about that. Basically, 691 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 6: my mom reached out to me while I was sleeping 692 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 6: over at my boyfriend's and asked where I would be working. 693 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,959 Speaker 6: It was really out of the blue. She started asking 694 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 6: how much money I'd be making and how often i'd 695 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 6: be home once I moved out. I kind of caught 696 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 6: on that she was asking for money. I tried to 697 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 6: gently remind her that I'm saving up to pay rent 698 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 6: in a little bit and starting to pay for my 699 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 6: own things without an allowance. Then she asked if I 700 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 6: could ask my dad to send me an allowance and 701 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 6: just lie and say I'm not working. 702 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 3: Ooh, I think I see where her money habits are 703 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 3: coming from. 704 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 6: This is giving me gambling problem vibes. Yuh, that's what 705 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 6: I mean, that's what it's given me, giving me the 706 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 6: vibes of yeah, ask your dad for an allowance and 707 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 6: then lie and say you don't have a job so 708 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 6: that you can give me the allowance. I flat out 709 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 6: said no and laughed. She sort of huffed and said 710 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 6: she struggles with buying presents from my little brother since 711 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 6: his birthday was last week and the things that autistic 712 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 6: people like are really expensive. I told her that was 713 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 6: the stupidest thing I've ever heard. I said, not everything 714 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 6: revolves around his disability. I was trying to say, he's 715 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 6: his own person. He isn't a person with autism. He 716 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 6: is Ryan, which is a fake name and not his 717 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 6: real name, which is what I was gonna say. But 718 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,240 Speaker 6: I thought she wouldn't really understand that since she zones 719 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 6: out when I try to explain things for too long, 720 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 6: so it came out weird. 721 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 3: That's where the gambling stuff comes in. 722 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, She's like, what I need the spinning wheels? I 723 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 6: can't focus? Where's my slot machine? She hung up, and 724 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 6: five minutes later, my brother called me and asked if 725 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 6: I was mad at him. I said no and asked 726 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 6: what was wrong, because sometimes he just asks me that 727 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 6: so I wasn't fully assuming it was the phone call. 728 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 6: He said, my mother told him that I said he 729 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 6: wasn't important enough to have my money. 730 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 3: Oh she's weaponizing your brother. 731 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 6: Mom sucks. What is your dad doing? 732 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, oh together, yeah, oh wow. 733 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,800 Speaker 6: He kept insisting he doesn't want my money and that 734 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 6: he likes me being his sister without that. This made 735 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 6: me furious, but not at him. Of course. I explained 736 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 6: what happened, and he said it was weird and he's sorry, 737 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 6: and he doesn't want present money from me. Yeah no, 738 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 6: it's like, yeah, he goes, Oh no, that's weird. No, 739 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 6: you don't have to buy my presents now. Our mom 740 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,399 Speaker 6: is weird. Dang, And I second that, good sir, your 741 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 6: mother is a freak. We talked for a little bit 742 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 6: and it was fine. When we hung up, I called 743 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 6: my mother back. She tried to go off at me again, 744 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 6: but I yelled that it was horrible for her to 745 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 6: say that to my little brother, and honestly, I just 746 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 6: kept yelling. Anytime she tried to talk, I just yelled, 747 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 6: which is what I feel bad about, because then she 748 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 6: got upset and called my dad. My dad called me 749 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 6: to ask if I was okay, but I was still mad, 750 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 6: so I told him she was asking me to lie 751 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 6: to get extra money, and he's also mad at her now. 752 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 6: She's been texting me saying her whole house is mad 753 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,839 Speaker 6: at her now and that she's said she couldn't rely 754 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 6: on me. She asked me to stay at my boyfriend's 755 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 6: house for a couple nights because she wanted space, and 756 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 6: my boyfriend said it's fine. I'm really conflicted now because 757 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,800 Speaker 6: I thought I was in the right for how I felt, 758 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 6: but now seeing how much it affected her, I just 759 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 6: feel like a huge a hole because your mother is 760 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,399 Speaker 6: manipulating you. She's probably been doing it for a long time, 761 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 6: and she's really good at it. My brother is telling 762 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 6: me he still thinks it was weird and mean of 763 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 6: her to try to get money out of me, using 764 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 6: the excuse of him being autistic. Me and my dad 765 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,800 Speaker 6: are very close, but he hates to argue with my mom, 766 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,760 Speaker 6: so we haven't really talked since my mom asked for space. 767 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,439 Speaker 6: I know my mom struggles with money and it makes 768 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 6: her feel incompetent at times, as she's expressed to me. 769 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,839 Speaker 6: These reactions are making me doubt my behavior. I know 770 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 6: I'm at least a bit of an a hole for 771 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 6: raising my voice. But yeah, am I the a hole? 772 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 6: And just to clarify, my parents are not divorced or 773 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 6: split up and they still live together. Oh man, And 774 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,399 Speaker 6: we do have some comments here. 775 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 3: Think you need to develop some sort of neurodivergence so 776 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 3: then you can defend your mom against your mom being like, well, Mom, 777 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 3: I have worse autism. I can't give you money. 778 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, I can't give you money. I'm buying all of 779 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 6: these weighted blankets. Yes, I can't afford it. My weighted 780 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,879 Speaker 6: blanket budget is stretched to its absolute minimum. You would 781 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,240 Speaker 6: understand maximum. 782 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 3: Because I'm worse autistic. 783 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 6: Let's get into these comments. Ducky Glow says, not the ahole. 784 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 6: I don't see a problem in a parent asking their 785 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 6: kid for money. But the manipulation and the lie to 786 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,359 Speaker 6: your brother was terrible. Also, she wanted you to lie 787 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 6: to your father to give her the money. Why can't 788 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 6: she ask him directly? Op says, I think she didn't 789 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 6: want to ask him because she gave him several debts 790 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 6: he had to pay off and that was very stressful 791 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 6: for him, and he sort of put restrictions on money 792 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 6: she can borrow. Responsible Fly twelve sixteen says, not the ahle, 793 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 6: Your mom is the ahole. If possible, go live with 794 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 6: your debt. Op says, Unfortunately, my parents still live together. 795 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,479 Speaker 6: I wish my little brother could live with my dad 796 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 6: as well. They argue a lot, and my brother overall 797 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,320 Speaker 6: just hates living there, but obviously doesn't really have a choice. 798 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 6: Malfus forty three says, what's the plan for your brother 799 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,319 Speaker 6: once he's an adult? Will your mom ever let him 800 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 6: have any independence or does she see him as disability money? 801 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,959 Speaker 6: Opie says, I'm not sure. He's still a bit away 802 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 6: from moving out. I'm assuming she'd want him to stay 803 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,799 Speaker 6: for a while, but he's expressed the idea to me 804 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 6: of how much he'd love having his own space, and 805 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 6: Opi replies to a big comment, thank you so much. Also, yes, 806 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,760 Speaker 6: he gave her a spending limit because she had given 807 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 6: my dad debts. I don't know how to explain, but basically, 808 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,319 Speaker 6: she spent his money into oblivion. He would give her 809 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 6: two and a half thousand to five thousand dollars monthly 810 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 6: for extra spending money on things for my brother, but 811 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 6: her extra spending money is now three hundred and he 812 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 6: just personally gets things from my brother if he needs them. 813 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,840 Speaker 6: I think I'll ask my dad to meet up and 814 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 6: talk about the things she said to my brother, along 815 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,240 Speaker 6: with my concerns for other things. I think that addresses 816 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 6: most questions and advice in this comment. And my brother 817 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:08,440 Speaker 6: will be getting that fist bump Heck, yeah, dude, sibling 818 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,760 Speaker 6: fist bumps. Let's go another. 819 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 3: No, Oh no, you never know what that's like. 820 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 6: Oh, opie, does your mother have a history of substance 821 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 6: use disorder? But absolutely not the ahole regardless, she is 822 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 6: way out of line. Ope, respond we go. She had 823 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 6: been in rehab once before my brother was born, but 824 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 6: when my father told me this, he said it wasn't 825 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 6: for very long. Another reply to a comment is my 826 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 6: mother was working and then quit. I do not know why, 827 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 6: but it does not sound like she was let go. 828 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 6: So then my dad was the main income person. Eventually 829 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,360 Speaker 6: got a promotion, then when I was twelve, bought the 830 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 6: place he was working at and one of its other franchises. 831 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 6: I hope that makes sense, because I really don't know 832 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 6: anything about all his business stuff. But then basically she 833 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 6: had been saving her work money while she had a job, 834 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 6: took it out for or one nice day out. Then 835 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 6: eventually all the money she had was gone. And that 836 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 6: was when she started asking my dad for money for 837 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,400 Speaker 6: important things, then using it on random crap she didn't 838 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 6: really need, or things that weren't essential. Repulsive Egg says info. 839 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 6: Does she hoard that, dad? That's a good one. I 840 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,959 Speaker 6: wasn't thinking about that. That's a good question, Opie says, 841 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,320 Speaker 6: I'd say no from what I can see. Well, you'd 842 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 6: know if you're living with your mom and she was 843 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,879 Speaker 6: a hoarder, you'd probably know. The things that she spends 844 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 6: her money on are either one use things or things 845 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 6: she sees on the internet, or that her friends have 846 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,320 Speaker 6: that she throws out two weeks later because she doesn't 847 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 6: like the items anymore. I guess the only thing she 848 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,320 Speaker 6: keeps are like makeup clothes that she buys with the money. 849 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 6: But I wouldn't say all that is hoarding. And there 850 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 6: is an update from nine days later. 851 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,440 Speaker 3: Opie, A magic fairy comes by and you get an 852 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 3: apology from your mother and everything works. 853 00:40:55,880 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 6: Out, And I sure hope, so I hope this doesn't 854 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 6: go into Yeah, so I found out my mom has 855 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:07,399 Speaker 6: substance use disorder still and and that's why she can't 856 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 6: have any money to spend on herself. 857 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,399 Speaker 3: Oh have you been talking to that angry troll down 858 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 3: that bridge. That's some that angry troll would say. 859 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, the angry troll down the bridge is her dealer. 860 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 6: He's in a trench coat. So for the comments who 861 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 6: had said it seems like my mother had a substance 862 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 6: use disorder, you're not wrong. 863 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, we called it. Let's go it. 864 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 6: Feels so wrong. 865 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 3: Fist bumped a viewers. 866 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,839 Speaker 6: Oh. Mom got arrested the other night for driving under 867 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,279 Speaker 6: the influence. Oh my gosh, which turns out my aunt 868 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 6: had been sending her hundreds to near thousands a month 869 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,239 Speaker 6: for what she thought was special needs equipment, but was 870 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 6: actually forbidding me. 871 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Yo. 872 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 6: After the fight about the money, nearly her whole side 873 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 6: of the family was against me, and I still wasn't 874 00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 6: allowed back home. This made her and dad, if I 875 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,360 Speaker 6: heaps because he wanted me home, but my mom was 876 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 6: literally refusing and was saying she would call the police 877 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 6: if I showed up. Then she got arrested. My dad 878 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 6: called me and said I can come home from my boyfriends. 879 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 6: I asked if Mom had calmed down and he was like, no, 880 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 6: she's been doinging in this house every night and just 881 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 6: got in a car accident, so she's not here, which 882 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 6: means I'm here, get my butt over there. And that 883 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,439 Speaker 6: was it. To be fair, everyone in my house has 884 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 6: just sort of embraced it. I don't know how to 885 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,759 Speaker 6: explain it. I didn't expect her to be doing substances. 886 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 6: I was surprised, but not stunned, and don't know how 887 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,800 Speaker 6: else to explain it. Well, if you're shocked. 888 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,319 Speaker 3: She's spending a lot of money and she's not hoarding, like, 889 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 3: there's not a bunch of stuff like things coming around. 890 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 3: Money's going somewhere. 891 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 6: Her and my dad are finally splitting up, probably for 892 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,840 Speaker 6: the best. My brother is handling this all right, I guess, 893 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 6: I mean better than most I would think. His response 894 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,560 Speaker 6: was mostly just oh and listening to what we said 895 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,400 Speaker 6: about the things happening next, how mom wasn't going to 896 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 6: be around much anymore at all, etc. Let this be 897 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:09,880 Speaker 6: a lesson how sometimes you gotta argue with your wife, 898 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 6: not in a trifling way, but in a like, hey, 899 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 6: we have to have a difficult conversation. 900 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:17,360 Speaker 3: Hey are you doing keademy? 901 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 6: When you see things you can't just be like, oh, 902 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:24,960 Speaker 6: I don't like fighting. It's like, hey, pee in this cup. Yeah. 903 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,319 Speaker 6: She's tried texting and calling a few times, but I 904 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,799 Speaker 6: texted her one time, a big paragraph, basically just letting 905 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 6: her know I'm done. I maybe would have been able 906 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,759 Speaker 6: to forgive her if she didn't drag my dad down 907 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,920 Speaker 6: with her and spend every time along his bloodline and 908 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 6: have substances in the house where my brother was. I 909 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,800 Speaker 6: don't care to know if she's going to jail or something. 910 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 6: Even if she gets clean and has a come to 911 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 6: Jesus moment or something, I really don't care to know her. 912 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:54,440 Speaker 6: I think that sums everything up. Sorry, it's short, maybe melodramatic, 913 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 6: not for me obviously, but again, thank you for all 914 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 6: the advice. Have a good day, okay. Bit nineteen eighty one. 915 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 6: Has any of your mom's family apologized, Opie, says my aunt, 916 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,440 Speaker 6: But I just told her I don't accept the apology, 917 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,279 Speaker 6: and I'm not talking to her either. Everyone else is 918 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 6: either standing on what they said or my dad is 919 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 6: saying they're too embarrassed to reach out. But I just 920 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:18,479 Speaker 6: think they really don't care. 921 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:19,279 Speaker 7: Now. 922 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 6: I think your dad's right. I think there are. People 923 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 6: don't want to be wrong, and then when they are 924 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,080 Speaker 6: undoubtedly wrong, it's it's embarrassing. 925 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,279 Speaker 3: If someone has heard something about you and they don't 926 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,080 Speaker 3: ask for your perspective, they've already made up their mind. 927 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 3: That is true, and that's the end of the story. 928 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:35,399 Speaker 3: We're going to read the next one. 929 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:40,720 Speaker 7: My stepsister nearly cut me off because I didn't check. 930 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:41,400 Speaker 4: On her pregnancy. 931 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 6: Well what are you word? Doctor? 932 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,239 Speaker 7: So this all started in November twenty twenty four when 933 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,719 Speaker 7: my now ex husband, Mail thirty four, got promoted to 934 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,879 Speaker 7: a new position through his company, but it meant us 935 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 7: packing up our house and moving to another state. He 936 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 7: left for the new state shortly after he got the 937 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:02,840 Speaker 7: promotion in November, while U Female thirty three, stayed back 938 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,400 Speaker 7: and worked on packing our home and prepping it for sale. 939 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 7: By the way, this comes from Wampa Wampa fruit and 940 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 7: if you want to submit your own stories, go to 941 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:16,240 Speaker 7: the r slash Okay storytime, suprend it. I am Savannah. 942 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 6: Wampa Wampa, I'm Dakota and Wampa Wampa. 943 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 4: We're here to give good advice goofully, but we don't 944 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:23,360 Speaker 4: have all the answers. 945 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 7: We only would tell you what we would do in 946 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,359 Speaker 7: this situation, so please let us know what you would 947 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:31,320 Speaker 7: do in the comments. As Opie says in March twenty 948 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,480 Speaker 7: twenty five, I was finally going to be able to 949 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,920 Speaker 7: move with him into our new home after months of packing, 950 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,799 Speaker 7: the process of selling our old home, looking for our 951 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 7: new home, and transferring jobs. On moving day, no less, 952 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,759 Speaker 7: he told me he had been cheating on me the 953 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:47,840 Speaker 7: past three months. 954 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 3: Wow. 955 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 6: Oh, at least he's honest. 956 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,239 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, the last day possible. 957 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 6: Ah. 958 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:58,759 Speaker 7: Obviously, this threw my whole world into complete chaos. When 959 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,000 Speaker 7: I found out, I told every one in my family. 960 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 7: I decided I deserved better and wanted a divorce. Yes, 961 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,560 Speaker 7: as you should. This was very, very hard. We were 962 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:12,399 Speaker 7: together for thirteen years and he was all I ever knew. 963 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,640 Speaker 7: My life as I knew it was over and I 964 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:19,720 Speaker 7: was incredibly depressed and heartbroken during this time. Yeah, understandable, Yeah, 965 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 7: I mean, what do you do that is your whole life? 966 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,719 Speaker 7: I had never been on my own before him, and 967 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,839 Speaker 7: it took a few months before I could stand on 968 00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,440 Speaker 7: my own two feet again. But I was able to 969 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,440 Speaker 7: get away from him, move to a new state, and 970 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 7: start my life over. It was challenging, but I did it, 971 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,359 Speaker 7: and I'm glad I did. Now I'm happy to say 972 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,200 Speaker 7: I have a very loving boyfriend and I have never 973 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:41,040 Speaker 7: been happier. 974 00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:45,680 Speaker 6: Oh good, Oh yeah, heck yeah, dude, as you should. 975 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,239 Speaker 7: One person in particular I talked to about everything was 976 00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:53,040 Speaker 7: my stepsister, female twenty nine. We have never been super close. 977 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:53,840 Speaker 4: In my eyes. 978 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 7: We only really reached out to each other during holidays 979 00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 7: and birthdays, occasionally one of us calling to check in, 980 00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:03,560 Speaker 7: but beyond that, I never really thought we were that close. 981 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,839 Speaker 7: This wasn't a bad thing, and I still care about her, 982 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,400 Speaker 7: It's just that we never really hung out outside of 983 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,400 Speaker 7: a family gathering, talked much on the phone, or even texted. 984 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,920 Speaker 7: I found out around the same month I asked for 985 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,960 Speaker 7: a divorce, she told me her and her husband were pregnant, 986 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,360 Speaker 7: which was wonderful news, just at a bad time in 987 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,719 Speaker 7: my life. The divorce didn't happen overnight and took a 988 00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,759 Speaker 7: few months even after I moved, to finalized paperwork, work 989 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,040 Speaker 7: through lawyer issues, and sell the house. I moved in 990 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 7: June and started to get settled into my first apartment 991 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,760 Speaker 7: in a new state. I had many low times during 992 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,200 Speaker 7: all this where I felt depressed, stressed, isolated and abandoned 993 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,960 Speaker 7: by a lot of people in my life. Not only 994 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,960 Speaker 7: had my husband abandoned me, but my dad stopped talking 995 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,840 Speaker 7: to me altogether. All very few people reached out to me, 996 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,640 Speaker 7: aside from my best friend, mom and stepmom, who I 997 00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,160 Speaker 7: talked to once a week. They, alongside my new relationship, 998 00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,359 Speaker 7: kept me moving forward. It did hurt that not many 999 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,320 Speaker 7: other people reached out during this time, because it definitely 1000 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,919 Speaker 7: was not easy. Fast forward to October twenty twenty five 1001 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,319 Speaker 7: and I get vacation time and can go to my 1002 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,919 Speaker 7: home state to visit family for the first time since 1003 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,759 Speaker 7: everything went down in March. I also go to my 1004 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:20,000 Speaker 7: stepsister's baby shower, which my stepmom had excitedly been giving 1005 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,640 Speaker 7: me updates about this entire time when we talked on 1006 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,640 Speaker 7: the phone. It was great to see my stepsister and 1007 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:29,040 Speaker 7: her hubby. While I was there, everything seemed normal. We 1008 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,640 Speaker 7: all talked and joked, I got to feel the baby punt, 1009 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:37,120 Speaker 7: and it was just a wonderful time, smiles all around. 1010 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,799 Speaker 7: After the party, I spoke with my dad, who was 1011 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:43,400 Speaker 7: now talking to me again after six months no contact, 1012 00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,280 Speaker 7: who told me that my stepsister said she was actually 1013 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,480 Speaker 7: ready to write me out of her life if I 1014 00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 7: didn't show up to the shower because I hadn't reached 1015 00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,480 Speaker 7: out to her during her whole pregnancy. I thought this 1016 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,200 Speaker 7: was strange coming from her and didn't sound right. So 1017 00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,080 Speaker 7: I reached out to her and asked myself if she 1018 00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:04,000 Speaker 7: actually felt this way. My surprise, she said yes, because 1019 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 7: I hadn't reached out to her to check in during 1020 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,799 Speaker 7: a stressful time in her life, which is ironic. This 1021 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,959 Speaker 7: immediately made me upset because she also had not reached 1022 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,560 Speaker 7: out to me during one of the most stressful times 1023 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:16,360 Speaker 7: of my life. 1024 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:16,720 Speaker 4: Either. 1025 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,800 Speaker 6: It looks like we're holding on to the scoreboard. Now, 1026 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,560 Speaker 6: that's an easy way for everyone to lose. 1027 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:28,160 Speaker 7: From my understanding, it's like, well, I'm not mad at 1028 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,239 Speaker 7: you for not reaching out, Well, I'm med at you 1029 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:31,080 Speaker 7: for not reaching out. 1030 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,400 Speaker 4: Well I'm just let's just never reach out, Okay. 1031 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,839 Speaker 6: You should ask is what do you want out of 1032 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:41,000 Speaker 6: this relationship with your sister? What connection do you want? 1033 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:41,920 Speaker 3: What you know? 1034 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,200 Speaker 6: Instead of it being like, well, this is fair, this 1035 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,080 Speaker 6: is even you did weren't there for me, so I 1036 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,240 Speaker 6: won't be there for you, yeah. 1037 00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:51,160 Speaker 7: Or trying to like compare like, well, I'm going through 1038 00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,040 Speaker 7: a hard time, Well, I was going through a hard time. 1039 00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,400 Speaker 4: Well, my time was harder your time like that just 1040 00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:56,960 Speaker 4: will literally get you nowhere. 1041 00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,080 Speaker 7: I feel that relationships are a two way street and 1042 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,080 Speaker 7: be all one person putting in effort. But I bit 1043 00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,160 Speaker 7: my lip and just told her I was very sorry 1044 00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,239 Speaker 7: I had hurt her. I had no idea she felt 1045 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:08,879 Speaker 7: that way, and that I wanted to be a better 1046 00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,080 Speaker 7: sister to her, it would make more of an effort 1047 00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,879 Speaker 7: to reach out. It's been a month since that talk, 1048 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:17,040 Speaker 7: and I reach out to her a few times a week, texting, 1049 00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:21,160 Speaker 7: sometimes sending her funny videos on Facebook or snapchats. When 1050 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,560 Speaker 7: I text her, she barely responds, and it's always very 1051 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,120 Speaker 7: one sided about how she's doing her feeling. She never 1052 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,520 Speaker 7: asks how I am or what I'm doing, and when 1053 00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:33,800 Speaker 7: I do tell her, she just seems disinterested or doesn't 1054 00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:38,680 Speaker 7: even respond. But again, I'm still trying. Now I feel 1055 00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,400 Speaker 7: like a doormat. I can't help feeling frustrated because my 1056 00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,280 Speaker 7: feelings were hurt that she was so mad I didn't 1057 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 7: reach out, but never thought to speak to me or 1058 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,239 Speaker 7: tell me or even ask how I was doing. 1059 00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,640 Speaker 6: It's crazy that she didn't reach out at all. After 1060 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,920 Speaker 6: your entire life imploded on you. My partner cheated on 1061 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,240 Speaker 6: me one day before they were moving across the country. 1062 00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:01,960 Speaker 3: Like I don't. 1063 00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,600 Speaker 6: I don't know like I would expect, like a, hey, 1064 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,720 Speaker 6: are you good? At least I would expect something. 1065 00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,480 Speaker 7: I understand she is at the end of her pregnancy 1066 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,080 Speaker 7: and things are scary and overwhelming, and hormones play a 1067 00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:16,040 Speaker 7: big part. But I can't shake my feeling of irritation 1068 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,000 Speaker 7: the more I reach out and get a half asked response, 1069 00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,240 Speaker 7: I feel like I don't matter, my feelings don't matter, 1070 00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,879 Speaker 7: and putting effort in Dallas didn't matter. I would love 1071 00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,240 Speaker 7: to approach her with how I feel in this situation, 1072 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,600 Speaker 7: similar to how she felt, but I also don't want 1073 00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,000 Speaker 7: to stress her out before she has a baby. 1074 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,279 Speaker 6: I think you can approach her in a way that's 1075 00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,920 Speaker 6: not super stressful, like try to keep the emotions as 1076 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,080 Speaker 6: low as possible, to be like, hey, I feel like, 1077 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:46,080 Speaker 6: you know, maybe our communications a little one sided, Like 1078 00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,200 Speaker 6: and I, you know, feel like I do want to 1079 00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,600 Speaker 6: put effort into this, but I'm not sure exactly what 1080 00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:55,120 Speaker 6: it's accomplishing. And again, and I don't want to stress 1081 00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:56,759 Speaker 6: you out. I just want to let you know how 1082 00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,760 Speaker 6: I'm feeling because I'm your sister and you're my sister, 1083 00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:03,040 Speaker 6: and I want us to be able to move forward 1084 00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,240 Speaker 6: and have a good relationship together. 1085 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,000 Speaker 7: It doesn't have to be like, you know, well, I 1086 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:11,200 Speaker 7: you know like it. You don't have to be so 1087 00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:17,200 Speaker 7: intense or intimidating about it, like it could just be like, hey, uh, 1088 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,520 Speaker 7: I've just been feeling like, you know, maybe there's a 1089 00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,640 Speaker 7: little tension between us or something, and I kind of 1090 00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,239 Speaker 7: want to figure that out before, like, you know, all 1091 00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,480 Speaker 7: this baby stuff happens. I'm just not sure what to 1092 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,360 Speaker 7: do or if it's even worth stressing about. Should I 1093 00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,359 Speaker 7: just let it go all together or keep on like 1094 00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,640 Speaker 7: I have been? Am I the a hole for not 1095 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,279 Speaker 7: reaching out sooner during her pregnancy when I was going 1096 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,640 Speaker 7: through a divorce at the same time. All right, update, 1097 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,799 Speaker 7: First off, thank you very much to everyone who has 1098 00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:49,000 Speaker 7: responded and all of your kind words and advice. Sometimes 1099 00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,760 Speaker 7: it's nice to gain the perspective of another person outside 1100 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,640 Speaker 7: of friends and family. Some people had said that my 1101 00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:58,279 Speaker 7: stepsister seemed spoiled or like a bully, but I disagree. 1102 00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,239 Speaker 7: I think in all honesty, she is similar to me 1103 00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,160 Speaker 7: and is a bit of a doormat in the family. 1104 00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,239 Speaker 7: I think she just didn't think about what I was 1105 00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,480 Speaker 7: going through or realized how hard it might be to 1106 00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,560 Speaker 7: be honest. This doesn't make it okay, and I'm not 1107 00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:15,799 Speaker 7: excusing her behavior because it is still crappy, but I 1108 00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,440 Speaker 7: definitely don't think her intentions were meant to be mean 1109 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,279 Speaker 7: in any way. I honestly think a major factor in 1110 00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,320 Speaker 7: this situation is my dad. He and I have always 1111 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:28,120 Speaker 7: had a very tumultuous relationship. When I moved, he and 1112 00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,600 Speaker 7: I had a falling out. He stopped talking to me 1113 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,480 Speaker 7: and refused to respond to texts and calls. After I moved. 1114 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:37,040 Speaker 7: We finally started talking again the day before the baby 1115 00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:40,799 Speaker 7: shower because my stepmom didn't want any drama at the 1116 00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,120 Speaker 7: shower and told him to call me and work things out. 1117 00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,239 Speaker 7: He said a lot of cruel things to me during 1118 00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:47,920 Speaker 7: that time, and it made me realize how much of 1119 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,239 Speaker 7: a self absorbed person he was. As a side note, 1120 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,319 Speaker 7: you really start to realize who was there for you 1121 00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,040 Speaker 7: through your hardest times when you're going through something. 1122 00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:56,600 Speaker 4: Like a divorce. 1123 00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,000 Speaker 7: It shows you a lot about the people around you. 1124 00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,760 Speaker 7: He is part of that generation of if someone hurts 1125 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:06,960 Speaker 7: your feelings too bad, it's your responsibility to maintain the relationship, 1126 00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:10,239 Speaker 7: not theirs. I've been slowly putting distance between me and 1127 00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:13,000 Speaker 7: him only after years of not realizing I was being 1128 00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,920 Speaker 7: a doormat and a people pleaser. I was letting these 1129 00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:19,719 Speaker 7: people in my life walk all over me, especially him. 1130 00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,160 Speaker 7: I think he was the one who actually put the 1131 00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,200 Speaker 7: idea in my stepsister's head that I should have reached 1132 00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,920 Speaker 7: out to her, and I was a crappy person for 1133 00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,680 Speaker 7: not doing so. In his mind, it's my responsibility to 1134 00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,080 Speaker 7: reach out to people I want to have a relationship with. 1135 00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,640 Speaker 7: I find it weird that the timing lines up with 1136 00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,959 Speaker 7: my dad refusing to reach out to me and talk 1137 00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,799 Speaker 7: to me. I'm sure he was bad mouthing me with her, 1138 00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:43,920 Speaker 7: but who knows. 1139 00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:45,680 Speaker 4: So now for. 1140 00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:49,440 Speaker 6: The actual update, let's go. 1141 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,680 Speaker 7: Any conversation with my sister is going to have to 1142 00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:55,919 Speaker 7: be put on the back burner because she went into 1143 00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:56,960 Speaker 7: labor yesterday. 1144 00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,080 Speaker 4: Oh oh no, baby time, baby, tell you I. 1145 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,640 Speaker 6: Have to worry about the conversation stressing out the baby. 1146 00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:06,200 Speaker 7: She had to have an emergency CEA section. Today, baby 1147 00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,360 Speaker 7: is healthy and she is doing good too. It was 1148 00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,040 Speaker 7: hard and scary, and lots went sideways, but everyone is 1149 00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:12,760 Speaker 7: doing fine. 1150 00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:14,879 Speaker 6: Now what should we talk about? Well, I think you're 1151 00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,279 Speaker 6: moving in the right direction. I think you're realizing like 1152 00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,759 Speaker 6: maybe a lot of this isn't even necessarily coming from 1153 00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:21,799 Speaker 6: either of you, and maybe more from the environment you 1154 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,960 Speaker 6: were in when you grew up. Right, like with Nars's dad, 1155 00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:29,600 Speaker 6: I think you're gonna be fine. I think you move 1156 00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:31,239 Speaker 6: forward and you know what, you need to visit the 1157 00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:34,200 Speaker 6: baby and be with the baby, see the baby, babysit 1158 00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,640 Speaker 6: probably at some point, and I think guys are on 1159 00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:40,600 Speaker 6: the road to mending the fence. 1160 00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:41,800 Speaker 4: For now. 1161 00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:43,960 Speaker 7: I think it's best that I continue to be there 1162 00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,279 Speaker 7: for her. Yeah, baby, but I am going to take 1163 00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,840 Speaker 7: people's advice and slowly take a step back and not 1164 00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:53,200 Speaker 7: message her as often as I was before. A conversation 1165 00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,799 Speaker 7: will be had in the future when life slows down 1166 00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,239 Speaker 7: and it can be brought up and not seen as 1167 00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,680 Speaker 7: an attack. I still want to bring up and share 1168 00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:02,480 Speaker 7: with her how hard it was and how dark of 1169 00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,680 Speaker 7: a time it was. I don't think she really knew 1170 00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,200 Speaker 7: how hard the mental struggle was on me, and to 1171 00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:10,120 Speaker 7: be fair, I never really opened up about it afterwards. 1172 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,759 Speaker 7: It's something that maybe in the future we can talk 1173 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,080 Speaker 7: about and hopefully come to a mutual understanding. 1174 00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:16,359 Speaker 4: That's the end. 1175 00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,200 Speaker 6: I and that's I think you'll do exactly that. I 1176 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:20,800 Speaker 6: think that is exactly what will happen. 1177 00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:25,080 Speaker 7: I honestly don't think anyone really did anything wrong in this. 1178 00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,439 Speaker 4: I think life just got the best of both of you. 1179 00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,640 Speaker 7: And you know, sometimes you go through hard things, good things, whatever, 1180 00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,640 Speaker 7: and then you lose contact with people and but you know, 1181 00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:35,920 Speaker 7: no one should blame each other for that. Like stuff 1182 00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,160 Speaker 7: just gets in the way and that's just life. Yeah, 1183 00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,600 Speaker 7: the dad just seems like he's starting stuff, which annoying, 1184 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,279 Speaker 7: so I would just you know, keep him at arm's length. 1185 00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,319 Speaker 4: But yeah, I think you. I think you're doing fine. Op, 1186 00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:48,879 Speaker 4: I think everything's gonna work out. 1187 00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:49,799 Speaker 3: I do too. 1188 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,160 Speaker 6: And that's the end of this story. We're gonna go 1189 00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:53,080 Speaker 6: on to the next one. 1190 00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:58,000 Speaker 2: Hey, it's Angie, your favorite fake redhead host here, and 1191 00:56:58,239 --> 00:56:59,720 Speaker 2: we're going to get back to the stories. 1192 00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,800 Speaker 4: But here, here's a three minute ad break from our sponsors. 1193 00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:07,920 Speaker 6: My dad had nearly a million dollars, but still left 1194 00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:11,200 Speaker 6: me struggling. Oh, you gotta help a home me out 1195 00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,040 Speaker 6: a million dollars in this economy. He's basically like twenty 1196 00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:17,000 Speaker 6: five cents. Let's start back when I thirty one female, 1197 00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:20,800 Speaker 6: was a kid. For context purposes, my dad's sixty four 1198 00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:24,200 Speaker 6: male has always been a bit distant. Both my father 1199 00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,200 Speaker 6: and mother fifty five female put a lot more thought 1200 00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:30,200 Speaker 6: and attention on my older brother, Trevor thirty two male. 1201 00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:33,720 Speaker 6: Trevor always had an issue in school and had violent 1202 00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:38,040 Speaker 6: outbursts with his very obvious ADHD. By the way, this 1203 00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,520 Speaker 6: comes from users silver Jellyfish eight oh three. And if 1204 00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:42,720 Speaker 6: you want to submit your own stories, go to the 1205 00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,920 Speaker 6: r slash Okay Storytime Summer Day. I'm Dakota and I'm Savannah, 1206 00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,560 Speaker 6: and we are here to give you good advice. Goofly, 1207 00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,480 Speaker 6: but we don't have all the answers of the known universe. 1208 00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:55,240 Speaker 6: We're just a couple of goofball. We only know what 1209 00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:58,120 Speaker 6: we would do, So let us know what you would 1210 00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:03,200 Speaker 6: do down in the common ants, as Op says. Fast 1211 00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:06,400 Speaker 6: forward to me being late teens, when I moved away 1212 00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,960 Speaker 6: for college. Me and my mom got really close. She 1213 00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,720 Speaker 6: would drive two hours to my college every Thursday to 1214 00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:17,320 Speaker 6: watch Gray's Anatomy with me. She was my absolute best friend. 1215 00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:21,200 Speaker 6: In twenty fifteen, I was sideswiped by a transport truck 1216 00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:24,280 Speaker 6: and it caused my car to be destroyed. I called 1217 00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,880 Speaker 6: my mom, She sent my dad. He picked me up, 1218 00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,720 Speaker 6: drove back to his work, handed me his keys, and 1219 00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,800 Speaker 6: said stay here all day or drive yourself home because 1220 00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,640 Speaker 6: I was sobbing and too scared to drive home. My 1221 00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:38,360 Speaker 6: mom was a blubbering mess about it all because I 1222 00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:42,040 Speaker 6: was injured pretty bad with a rotator cuff injury. Fast 1223 00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:45,840 Speaker 6: forward to twenty seventeen, my mom passed away of a 1224 00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,560 Speaker 6: sudden heart attack in the home I grew up in. 1225 00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:49,440 Speaker 3: Ah. 1226 00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:54,640 Speaker 6: That's a very rough shake. I wake up to paramedics, 1227 00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:59,520 Speaker 6: the whole nine peak trauma. Dad suddenly is lots of 1228 00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:03,280 Speaker 6: substance and drinking. My mother's life insurance policy was always 1229 00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,760 Speaker 6: supposed to cover the house. My dad chose to use 1230 00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:10,040 Speaker 6: it for other things instead, clearly recreationally. About a year 1231 00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:12,680 Speaker 6: after my mom passed, I had a newborn baby girl. 1232 00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:16,600 Speaker 6: He loved her, but he never watched her. He didn't 1233 00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,680 Speaker 6: do anything to help besides financially if I was struggling. 1234 00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,280 Speaker 6: We had our own basement apartment in the home, but 1235 00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,680 Speaker 6: a shared kitchen upstairs. He had always said during this 1236 00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:27,920 Speaker 6: time that he's putting away some money for my brother 1237 00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,280 Speaker 6: and I so that we can eventually buy a house 1238 00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:32,720 Speaker 6: for context. We live in a place where buying a 1239 00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:36,360 Speaker 6: house for under half a MILLI was rare. When one 1240 00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,640 Speaker 6: of my friends, who would come over all the time 1241 00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,520 Speaker 6: after my mom passed, would get off work early, she 1242 00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:43,760 Speaker 6: would hang out at my house with my dad until 1243 00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,360 Speaker 6: I got home. It started getting weird when she would 1244 00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,120 Speaker 6: not even ask me to hang out and she'd be 1245 00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:53,000 Speaker 6: at my house hanging with my dad. Slowly, me and 1246 00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:57,240 Speaker 6: this friend stopped being friends because she saw a heartbroken, 1247 00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:01,080 Speaker 6: devastated man who is very shocked and doesn't really like 1248 01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:03,720 Speaker 6: meeting people, all while having quite a big chunk of 1249 01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,840 Speaker 6: money in his bank account from his passed away wife. 1250 01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,520 Speaker 6: When that friend got wasted one day with my dad 1251 01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:12,439 Speaker 6: and she tried to go home, she ended up hitting 1252 01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:17,040 Speaker 6: my husband, Jesse's friend's car. My dad took her side 1253 01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:18,520 Speaker 6: and said it's not her fault. 1254 01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:20,400 Speaker 4: Well, yes it is. 1255 01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:23,880 Speaker 6: It's not her fault. She drank and got behind the wheel. 1256 01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:26,800 Speaker 6: We got into it, and the next day my husband 1257 01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:30,240 Speaker 6: and my daughter, a seven female, left and went to 1258 01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:32,400 Speaker 6: a shelter. He had threatened to lock us out of 1259 01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:35,360 Speaker 6: the house and changed the locks because of this argument 1260 01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:39,840 Speaker 6: the threat. I couldn't trust him, especially knowing my daughter 1261 01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:42,160 Speaker 6: was going to be at the hands of whether my 1262 01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:45,720 Speaker 6: father locked us out or not. We ended up getting 1263 01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:47,880 Speaker 6: out of the shelter pretty quick. We went into a 1264 01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:51,320 Speaker 6: geared to income housing that was a brand new home 1265 01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:53,600 Speaker 6: and we only had to pay rent that amounted the 1266 01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,920 Speaker 6: thirty percent of our income. My husband got a new job, 1267 01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:00,320 Speaker 6: and my second daughter, now four female, was born and 1268 01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:04,120 Speaker 6: we could not be happier. My dad had sold the home, 1269 01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:08,080 Speaker 6: my childhood home, the one where my mom passed away. 1270 01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,120 Speaker 6: So now that he sold the house, he now has 1271 01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:13,800 Speaker 6: almost a million dollars in his bank account from the 1272 01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:17,240 Speaker 6: sale of the home. Instead of buying himself a small 1273 01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:20,280 Speaker 6: little house, he took this money and decided to rent 1274 01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:23,200 Speaker 6: an apartment. But I still held on to hope that 1275 01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:25,680 Speaker 6: he would help me buy a house. One day, a 1276 01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:27,920 Speaker 6: couple years later, my husband and I decide we want 1277 01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,320 Speaker 6: to move across the country. I asked my dad to 1278 01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:33,480 Speaker 6: come with us. He said no, because everyone he knows 1279 01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:34,640 Speaker 6: is back home. 1280 01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:38,360 Speaker 4: I mean, that makes sense, you don't, you know, he's old. 1281 01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,160 Speaker 4: He doesn't want to like make new friends, kind of 1282 01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:40,720 Speaker 4: smants to. 1283 01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:42,440 Speaker 6: Chill for a second. I thought it was just like 1284 01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:44,760 Speaker 6: we're doing a trip across the country, and I'm like, well, 1285 01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:46,840 Speaker 6: you don't want to just like leave, you want to 1286 01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:47,919 Speaker 6: just see somewhere else. 1287 01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:49,480 Speaker 4: You don't want to like explode. 1288 01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,720 Speaker 6: But they're moving, so that's not what's happening. Suddenly I 1289 01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:54,920 Speaker 6: find out I'm pregnant for the third time. 1290 01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:57,920 Speaker 4: Whoa, they're getting busy with my son. 1291 01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,880 Speaker 6: Now it's three email my second was only six months old. 1292 01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,560 Speaker 6: But we did it, and we made it. We moved 1293 01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,600 Speaker 6: and everything was great. My dad had no part in 1294 01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:09,920 Speaker 6: paying for the move. What he did, though, when I 1295 01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:12,640 Speaker 6: found out I was pregnant, was helped me buy a car. 1296 01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:15,840 Speaker 6: My credit was horrible and my husband had no credit, 1297 01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:17,880 Speaker 6: so when we went to try and finance a pre 1298 01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:20,760 Speaker 6: owned car, I was unable to get it done. My 1299 01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,600 Speaker 6: dad said he would co sign. We go in and 1300 01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:25,960 Speaker 6: they tell us that if I go on it at all, 1301 01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:30,040 Speaker 6: my interest rates skyrockets. So my dad said it's fine, 1302 01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:33,040 Speaker 6: He'll put the whole finance in his name while I'm 1303 01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:36,200 Speaker 6: the primary owner of the vehicle. The dealership made him 1304 01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:39,200 Speaker 6: very aware that if I ever stopped paying, it would 1305 01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:43,280 Speaker 6: never affect me, it would only affect him. However, they 1306 01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:46,640 Speaker 6: would repossess the vehicle from me. I had no intentions 1307 01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,320 Speaker 6: on ever stopping paying for this vehicle. Well, just a 1308 01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:51,720 Speaker 6: little semantics here, I hope you did have the intention 1309 01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:53,600 Speaker 6: of at some point paying the vehicle off so that 1310 01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:56,040 Speaker 6: you don't have to pay for it anymore. Yeah, I'm 1311 01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:58,200 Speaker 6: going to pay for this vehicle for the rest of 1312 01:02:58,280 --> 01:02:59,040 Speaker 6: my life. 1313 01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:03,680 Speaker 7: I love spending money over and over and over again. 1314 01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:08,600 Speaker 6: Love paying money for vehicles. My brother had already screwed 1315 01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,720 Speaker 6: my dad over this way, so I was never going 1316 01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:14,320 Speaker 6: to do it to him too. Fast forward to about 1317 01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:17,280 Speaker 6: a year ago. I was driving about thirty kilometers an 1318 01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:20,200 Speaker 6: hour on a road that wasn't very well maintained. In 1319 01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:22,680 Speaker 6: the winter, I had a big patch of ice and 1320 01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:25,680 Speaker 6: I ended up rolling my vehicle at very low speeds. 1321 01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:28,280 Speaker 6: I still had about two years left to pay on 1322 01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:31,480 Speaker 6: this vehicle, but now it was written off. I got 1323 01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:33,560 Speaker 6: a payout from insurance that was paid out to me 1324 01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:35,760 Speaker 6: because I was the owner of the vehicle. But there 1325 01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:37,640 Speaker 6: was a lean on the vehicle, and because it was 1326 01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:40,360 Speaker 6: not in my name, I could not pay it off. 1327 01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:42,960 Speaker 6: I had to just keep making the payments with the 1328 01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,919 Speaker 6: payout that was paid to me. So the last few 1329 01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:49,120 Speaker 6: months have been kind of crazy. We went to finance 1330 01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,640 Speaker 6: a trailer because I wanted to raise my credit. Since 1331 01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:55,000 Speaker 6: I finally started working again back in February, my credit 1332 01:03:55,080 --> 01:04:00,680 Speaker 6: has exponentially risen. My husband's has exponentially risen. So we 1333 01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:03,480 Speaker 6: decided we wanted to start looking at the potential to 1334 01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:06,680 Speaker 6: buy a house. We're fine paying the crashed car payment, 1335 01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:09,120 Speaker 6: the trailer payment, my new car payment that we were 1336 01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:12,000 Speaker 6: able to finance on our own, and our rent, and 1337 01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:14,520 Speaker 6: all of the other bills. When we went to buy 1338 01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:16,760 Speaker 6: the house, we were told we needed a co signer, 1339 01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:19,560 Speaker 6: and at this point, my dad has been very distant. 1340 01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:21,840 Speaker 6: I've hardly talked to him in the last three years 1341 01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:24,880 Speaker 6: since I moved away. He'll sometimes send money for the 1342 01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:27,600 Speaker 6: kid's birthdays or Christmas, but he doesn't call. He doesn't 1343 01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:30,600 Speaker 6: ask how they are. I recently found out a friend 1344 01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:33,360 Speaker 6: that i'd had since the fourth grade had been hanging 1345 01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:38,760 Speaker 6: out and seeing my dad. Was it the same friend 1346 01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:42,040 Speaker 6: that was hanging out with him before? Yeah? Is it 1347 01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:42,960 Speaker 6: that same friend? 1348 01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:47,160 Speaker 4: Jesse? I think the name was Gross Gross Gross. 1349 01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:49,480 Speaker 6: She knew how much the last friend had hurt me 1350 01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:52,000 Speaker 6: by doing this. Oh, so it's a different one. How 1351 01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:56,320 Speaker 6: unlikely this friend has a very severe drinking ed substance 1352 01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:59,680 Speaker 6: use problem. Oh my, yeah, it sounds like your dad. 1353 01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:01,400 Speaker 6: That's what it sounds like. It sounds like your dad 1354 01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:02,040 Speaker 6: just parties. 1355 01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:05,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, which is yeah, hilarious. 1356 01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:08,360 Speaker 6: She had lost custody of her kids, and her children's 1357 01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:10,640 Speaker 6: father had told her to leave when she was belligerent, 1358 01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:13,560 Speaker 6: so she got upset called my dad to pick her up, 1359 01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:17,320 Speaker 6: and neither my father or this friend told me about this. 1360 01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,320 Speaker 6: Her children's father had sent me pictures of my dad 1361 01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:23,360 Speaker 6: picking her up. From that point, I removed that friend 1362 01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:26,520 Speaker 6: from our childhood friend group chat, blocked her on Facebook, 1363 01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:29,200 Speaker 6: and removed her from all other social media. I sent 1364 01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:31,960 Speaker 6: Trevor a message and was like, Dad's at it again. 1365 01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:36,800 Speaker 6: Now I've lost two friends. I'm sorry. I shouldn't laugh 1366 01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:38,960 Speaker 6: because it sucks, but that was the funniest way you 1367 01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:41,840 Speaker 6: could have said that Dad's at it again. 1368 01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:47,080 Speaker 4: Here we go doing substances with my childhood friends. I've 1369 01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:49,720 Speaker 4: already lost one, now here comes another. 1370 01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:53,520 Speaker 6: Trevor responds, I don't want to talk about this. All 1371 01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:55,840 Speaker 6: I said to my dad was what the F dad? 1372 01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:58,760 Speaker 6: And he never responded anytime I sent him a message 1373 01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:01,000 Speaker 6: on Facebook or a text I'm left on red or 1374 01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:04,560 Speaker 6: all I get is that traditional dry dad thumbs up emoji. 1375 01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:07,360 Speaker 6: When I had rolled the car, for example, he sent 1376 01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:13,640 Speaker 6: a thumbs up and then said nice. No way he 1377 01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:16,200 Speaker 6: sent you a thumbs up to your car rolled over. 1378 01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:19,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just got erect my car flipped over three times. 1379 01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:23,400 Speaker 6: Nice. So now I got a co signer and we 1380 01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,720 Speaker 6: were coming up to closing on a house. It is 1381 01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:29,360 Speaker 6: a beautiful bungalow, and I was in love. The house 1382 01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:31,480 Speaker 6: number was the same as my mom's old house, and 1383 01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:33,440 Speaker 6: there was a letter on the house that also happened 1384 01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:36,760 Speaker 6: to be my married last name initial. The previous owners 1385 01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:39,160 Speaker 6: had the same initials as my husband and I. So 1386 01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:42,520 Speaker 6: I messaged my dad and I said, Hey, you always 1387 01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:44,320 Speaker 6: said you wanted to help us buy a house. Well 1388 01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:46,760 Speaker 6: we've managed to get one without the help. We're coming 1389 01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:48,840 Speaker 6: up on our closing costs, and I was wondering if 1390 01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:51,120 Speaker 6: you would like to contribute to help us towards those 1391 01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:54,200 Speaker 6: no pressure. If you don't want to, that's fine. I'll 1392 01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:56,040 Speaker 6: figure it out anyway. I always do. 1393 01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:59,440 Speaker 4: I don't know what's kind of passive aggressive. 1394 01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:03,360 Speaker 6: If you honestly wanted him to help, I probably wouldn't 1395 01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:04,480 Speaker 6: have sent that text. 1396 01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:05,440 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1397 01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:08,000 Speaker 4: I have horrible time asking for money. 1398 01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:10,400 Speaker 6: My dad's response was, I don't know. I'm kind of 1399 01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:12,920 Speaker 6: low on money. It depends on how much it is. 1400 01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:15,960 Speaker 6: My response to this was, don't worry about it. I 1401 01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:18,720 Speaker 6: was just asking for a contribution, whatever you could or 1402 01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:21,600 Speaker 6: wanted to put forward. Don't worry about it. I did 1403 01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:24,479 Speaker 6: not get a congratulations. I didn't get any I'm proud 1404 01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:27,040 Speaker 6: of you messages. When I sent him a picture of 1405 01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:29,320 Speaker 6: the house we bought with a big Sould sign on it, 1406 01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:33,120 Speaker 6: all I got was a thumbs up. Yeah, honestly. And 1407 01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:35,160 Speaker 6: I think what you might need to reckon with is 1408 01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:38,440 Speaker 6: that your dad probably has a substance use disorder and 1409 01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:42,120 Speaker 6: that can cause a pretty extreme level of detachment from, 1410 01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:44,600 Speaker 6: you know, the people who should be closest to you. 1411 01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:45,160 Speaker 6: You should go. 1412 01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:47,600 Speaker 7: Through all of the messages and thumbs down every single 1413 01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:50,200 Speaker 7: thing he says, or better yet. 1414 01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,400 Speaker 6: Just always send the thumbs up, no matter what he 1415 01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:53,040 Speaker 6: no matter what. 1416 01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:54,479 Speaker 4: More. 1417 01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:57,640 Speaker 6: Now, your your friend Jesse slashed both my tires because 1418 01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:01,960 Speaker 6: I told her I couldn't commit nice. On my birthday, 1419 01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:05,080 Speaker 6: he messaged me, happy birthday, have a great day. No, 1420 01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:07,480 Speaker 6: I love you, no, I miss you, just the generic 1421 01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:09,520 Speaker 6: happy birthday message you'd send to the friend of a 1422 01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:12,160 Speaker 6: friend you met that one time at a party. Trevor 1423 01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:14,960 Speaker 6: didn't even wish me a happy birthday until a week 1424 01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:18,519 Speaker 6: or so later. Jesse has always been such a constant 1425 01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:21,719 Speaker 6: for me since twenty sixteen, and he has always hated 1426 01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:24,519 Speaker 6: the way my father and brother treat me. It was 1427 01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:27,280 Speaker 6: the source of our fights for a long time until 1428 01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:31,879 Speaker 6: we moved out, and we have hardly had a disagreement since. However, 1429 01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:34,280 Speaker 6: he truly thinks the way this has all played out, 1430 01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:36,919 Speaker 6: my dad should eat the bill of the last fifteen 1431 01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:39,599 Speaker 6: months of car payments that are left. If I stopped 1432 01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:42,080 Speaker 6: paying this bill, it's essentially cutting off my dad and 1433 01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:46,000 Speaker 6: going no contact and stopping the payments, leaving him to 1434 01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:49,639 Speaker 6: foot the bill would definitely burn the bridge. So it's 1435 01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:51,920 Speaker 6: been a year and I'm kind of tired of paying 1436 01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:54,040 Speaker 6: for a car I don't drive. It's not like I 1437 01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:55,800 Speaker 6: can't afford it. It's more the fact that I was 1438 01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:59,800 Speaker 6: always promised help buying a home after Mom passed away, 1439 01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:04,000 Speaker 6: but I been physically and emotionally abandoned instead. My question is, 1440 01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:06,000 Speaker 6: would I be the a hole if I stopped paying 1441 01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:08,280 Speaker 6: for a car that my dad is the sole person 1442 01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:12,680 Speaker 6: on the loan. I think you would be you know, 1443 01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:16,519 Speaker 6: whether or not it's right or wrong or justified, Yeah, 1444 01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:19,519 Speaker 6: it'd be an a hole move. Him co signing on 1445 01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:21,800 Speaker 6: the car was what got you to, you know, get 1446 01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:23,599 Speaker 6: the car in the first place, So if you shafted 1447 01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:26,000 Speaker 6: him over that, that would be an a whole move, 1448 01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:29,800 Speaker 6: even if it is justified. But I think what needs 1449 01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:31,360 Speaker 6: to be done is you need to talk to some 1450 01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:34,080 Speaker 6: kind of somebody who can tell you how you can 1451 01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:36,920 Speaker 6: just pay all that down because you just just pay 1452 01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:39,360 Speaker 6: that off to stop paying the payments on it. And 1453 01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:42,720 Speaker 6: I think, you know, to some level, I know he 1454 01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:45,320 Speaker 6: had said like, oh, well, i'll help you get a house. 1455 01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:48,880 Speaker 6: You know that your mom's gone now I'll help you 1456 01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:52,280 Speaker 6: get a house. But do you ever you know I 1457 01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:55,040 Speaker 6: and I understand not wanting to have to be like, hey, 1458 01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:57,439 Speaker 6: are you gonna help me? Do you want to help me? 1459 01:09:57,560 --> 01:09:59,240 Speaker 6: Remember what you said you would help me, and you 1460 01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:02,479 Speaker 6: just want him to do do it? But I don't 1461 01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:04,639 Speaker 6: know if it really was just about getting the support 1462 01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:07,799 Speaker 6: for the house. You gotta be like kind of business 1463 01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:10,639 Speaker 6: like about it. But I really do think for op. 1464 01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:14,120 Speaker 6: It was more about like the principle of just wanting 1465 01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:18,000 Speaker 6: their dad to be proactively like I want to help you, 1466 01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:21,960 Speaker 6: and that's a different issue. The consensus is that I 1467 01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:25,080 Speaker 6: would be the a hole, and that is kind of 1468 01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:27,680 Speaker 6: what I always knew. I just know at the end 1469 01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:29,280 Speaker 6: of the day, I wouldn't be able to live with 1470 01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:32,519 Speaker 6: myself knowing I gave that fu finale to the very 1471 01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:36,439 Speaker 6: painful one sided relationship with my dad. I've chosen to 1472 01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:40,400 Speaker 6: continue paying as it doesn't financially burden me. The payments 1473 01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:43,840 Speaker 6: keep going out on time, bi weekly as they always have. 1474 01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:46,800 Speaker 6: I have just chosen to take the high road and 1475 01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:49,479 Speaker 6: walk away from the bridge rather than burning it. I 1476 01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:52,000 Speaker 6: appreciate you all taking a moment to read and respond. 1477 01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:55,680 Speaker 6: I didn't even expect a single reply. And that is 1478 01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:57,479 Speaker 6: the end of that story. And little did you know 1479 01:10:57,640 --> 01:10:59,360 Speaker 6: your show was gonna your story was gonna make it 1480 01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:00,719 Speaker 6: on Okay story Time.