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Speaker 1: sixteen Somewhere a Clock is ticking Air date March first,
Speaker 1: two thousand and five. Well, the synopsis on this one, guys,
Speaker 1: is It's Jewels and Keith's wedding day. But will Jules
Speaker 1: make it down the aisle? As Karen and Andy discover
Speaker 1: the truth about her identity. Hayley makes an appearance on
Speaker 1: National TV with Chris Keller that sends Nathan down a
Speaker 1: drunken spiral. Peyton and Jake take their relationship to the
Speaker 1: next level. Plus Brooke tags along with Lucas to Keith's wedding,
Speaker 1: while her future as a Tree Hill resident might soon
Speaker 1: be over because of her dad's new job. Who There
Speaker 1: is a lot to unpack in this episode, and we
Speaker 1: have someone very special to help us do it. Guys,
Speaker 1: Craig Scheffer is joining us later in the show. We
Speaker 1: can't wait. This was a good one. Yeah. We things
Speaker 1: kept getting bigger and bigger and bigger on our show.
Speaker 1: I forget, like, how many weddings did we have? I
Speaker 1: had a couple, You had a couple. Everybody had a couple.
Speaker 1: Every like six episodes. We need a wedding or or
Speaker 1: a hospital giant group event, I know. Um, well, let's
Speaker 1: start with the first thing that we all commented on,
Speaker 1: because it's the it's um this this this director has
Speaker 1: directed many episodes of One Tree Hill, and um, it's
Speaker 1: Billy Dixon. And we all were just talking right off
Speaker 1: the bat with all the great shots and the and
Speaker 1: the beautiful um lighting and just the way that he
Speaker 1: would capture where we are as characters using the camera.
Speaker 1: And I thought that was really neat. What did you
Speaker 1: guys think, Well, he's our director of photography. If anyone
Speaker 1: understands a camera, it is Billy Dixon. Um. And he
Speaker 1: also was a family guy. You know, his daughter was
Speaker 1: always on set, his wife was always like hanging out
Speaker 1: on set. And I was just telling you guys that
Speaker 1: his daughter, who used to dress up as a cheerleader
Speaker 1: and come hang out with us at the gym, just
Speaker 1: got married and had a baby. Like I'm Facebook friends
Speaker 1: at them, and I'm like, there's no way we're old
Speaker 1: enough for Haley to have a baby, but we are.
Speaker 1: It's so cute. One of the things, you know, um,
Speaker 1: for the folks at home, that we were talking about,
Speaker 1: when you think about how the director can manipulate a
Speaker 1: camera to tell a story. If you if you notice,
Speaker 1: there's a couple of shots that stand out. You know,
Speaker 1: there's this low push upward at Karen and Andy when
Speaker 1: they realize who Jules is. There's another moment, I like
Speaker 1: the one where Jake is taking his coat off. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so like Jake takes the coat off and then the
Speaker 1: coat covers the camera and then it's into the coat
Speaker 1: going around Craig's shoulders. It's all these cool things that
Speaker 1: behind things too from far away long lenses. And yes,
Speaker 1: like none of that stuff for y'all at home is scripted.
Speaker 1: That's stuff that the director comes up with, how they
Speaker 1: do those transitions, how they support an emotional feeling with
Speaker 1: a technical choice. So it's really fun for us to
Speaker 1: to get to see that, especially because, as Hillary said,
Speaker 1: Billy was our director of photography for many years, so
Speaker 1: he was on set with us all day every day.
Speaker 1: I love this opening, the sailboat, the way the water
Speaker 1: was listening, Lucas running, what did you say so much bouncing? Listen.
Speaker 1: As I'm watching it, I'm like, oh, Lucas bounces this
Speaker 1: ball all over town like he's been doing that for
Speaker 1: a couple of seasons. And in my life, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to think if I've ever seen a teen boy bounce
Speaker 1: a ball through town like while he's running, like on
Speaker 1: the jog that is an exclusive Lucas Scott trade, I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: But I love to that opening. I liked the music.
Speaker 1: It reminded me of like nineties rom com beginnings. Sophia
Speaker 1: did not like this music. Look, i'm gonna say when
Speaker 1: it first started, I was like, Oh, this feels poetic,
Speaker 1: and then it got into that weird twangy elevator musach
Speaker 1: like thing, and I was like, where are we going
Speaker 1: with this? What's happening? What's going on? So yeah, I
Speaker 1: went from a fan to not a fan. We transitioned
Speaker 1: out of it pretty quickly, and I just got that
Speaker 1: nice quote, this is the beginning, the beginning of always
Speaker 1: something about the choice you make now at the beginning
Speaker 1: of well, let's talk about choices now, Haley, Jake Scott
Speaker 1: is out on tour and it's pressuring her. Smoking hot
Speaker 1: is Joy as Haley on the phone, like, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I've been rehearsing all that love. I can't help it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've never looked so good all night long, my whole life.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's TV all night long. I like
Speaker 1: that you put that little gravel on your voice though,
Speaker 1: you were like, I'm sorry, we've that was a good
Speaker 1: choice my hair for this. Yeah, so tired, you look sexy. Joy.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you were changing your style out
Speaker 1: on the road, like was was Joy changing her style
Speaker 1: out on the road while Haley was also out on
Speaker 1: the road. I'm I'm constantly changing my style. I mean
Speaker 1: I have I guess I'm constantly experimenting. I love fashion
Speaker 1: is fun, but I think style is what's permanent, and
Speaker 1: you know that's just who you are. So, especially in
Speaker 1: my twenties, I was certainly always trying to figure out
Speaker 1: who am I, what what what fits? What makes sense
Speaker 1: for me? Um So I'm definitely always experimenting with fashion
Speaker 1: and have been since I was young. But but my style.
Speaker 1: There's a groundedness about my style that will will never change.
Speaker 1: I don't think. Wait, I love the way you just
Speaker 1: said that. I I had to talk just the other
Speaker 1: day about realizing there's a style I'm drawing on too,
Speaker 1: but the level of experimenting I've done, whether with clothes
Speaker 1: or hair. I had this sort of lightbulb moment where
Speaker 1: I went, oh, yeah, for half my life I grew
Speaker 1: up in a barn, so I was like in barn clothes.
Speaker 1: For the other half of my life, I went to
Speaker 1: a school where I wore a uniforms don't probably it
Speaker 1: has no individual personality. And then for my entire adult life,
Speaker 1: I've dressed up as other people. And so sometimes I
Speaker 1: put clothes on and I go, who is this person
Speaker 1: wearing this outfit? Do you feel like that? Like you
Speaker 1: have to try on things to figure out what what
Speaker 1: you put on that feels like you versus some character
Speaker 1: or some look that maybe doesn't feel personal. I just
Speaker 1: had to give notes on a photo shoot I'm supposed
Speaker 1: to do, and they sent the look book and I
Speaker 1: was like, this looks like someone who loves Coachella. I
Speaker 1: need you to understand I am significantly more in progynous
Speaker 1: than this. Yes, yes, and for me, like having played
Speaker 1: a lot of pencil skirts. Um, that's hard because in
Speaker 1: real life I'm still wearing the exact same thing I
Speaker 1: wore in high school. It's like men's loose, baggy pants
Speaker 1: and then like a little a little shirt. That is
Speaker 1: what I wore at sixteen. It's what I wear. Att Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've been. I think I started vintage shopping when I
Speaker 1: was in high school and that was kind of it
Speaker 1: for me. I I just was never into designer labels
Speaker 1: for no other reason than I well, I couldn't afford
Speaker 1: them when I was younger, um for sure, and but
Speaker 1: I for most of my life. But I also just
Speaker 1: love history. I love being a part of history. So
Speaker 1: that's why I love old houses, old gadgets, old things.
Speaker 1: So old clothes too. It feels like I'm stepping into something.
Speaker 1: I love knowing that somebody else wore it a really
Speaker 1: long time ago. I know some people that are too
Speaker 1: super creeped out by that. Why did you put on
Speaker 1: clothes and someone else war? You know? Speaking of my
Speaker 1: little blazers, I just found it a a vintage shore in Toronto.
Speaker 1: I found a vintage eve sail Laurenso I put it
Speaker 1: on and I where you guys, it's blue, it's beautiful,
Speaker 1: And I was like, where did this lady go and
Speaker 1: what powerful thing did she do in this outfit? And
Speaker 1: what of that energy am I going to take to
Speaker 1: go do something badass like it makes me feel like
Speaker 1: a superhero. Yeah, it's the best, it's taking it. Should
Speaker 1: we open a vintage store? Yes? In Wilmington's Are you kidding? Sure? Well,
Speaker 1: I don't want to. I don't want to. I don't
Speaker 1: want to give Jess james uh competition because she's got that.
Speaker 1: I think we need to collaborate is what needs to happen.
Speaker 1: The um you would love it, you guys. Nathan at
Speaker 1: the top of this episode is bringing some very angry energy.
Speaker 1: We're taking power Girl energy into our life. Nathan is
Speaker 1: being so shitty to Haley at the beginning of this,
Speaker 1: but it's so appropriate because he is a sixteen year
Speaker 1: old boy and he's so hurt, and Haley is doing
Speaker 1: and saying all the right things. What can I do?
Speaker 1: What can I say? Well, and we've talked, we not
Speaker 1: just us, but the world is recognizing that for a
Speaker 1: very long time, we've pushed boys into a box that
Speaker 1: is harmful for them. We tell them they're not allowed
Speaker 1: to have feelings. Boys don't cry, Man up, toughen up,
Speaker 1: you know, grow a pair. All this nonsense that's so toxic,
Speaker 1: not just for the women who have to deal with them,
Speaker 1: but for the men who get segmented into thinking that
Speaker 1: they're only permissible emotion is anger. Nathan is hurt and
Speaker 1: so he's raging, and it's hard and it's heartbreaking to watch.
Speaker 1: But I actually think it was done really well in
Speaker 1: that we didn't pretend that he had the framework or
Speaker 1: the tools to be this evolved person and deal with
Speaker 1: his feelings. His feelings come out as anger, and the
Speaker 1: people who love him have to keep saying we love you,
Speaker 1: we're here for you, to to try to push him
Speaker 1: into actually feeling his feelings. And I I thought James
Speaker 1: did a really beautiful job with it. I really I
Speaker 1: believed it, and I and I hurt for him watching
Speaker 1: the episode, and and when he is finally feeling the
Speaker 1: sadness alone at their wedding site, like his mom comes house,
Speaker 1: it's just poetic. I think it's it's when you get
Speaker 1: a script and you read anger right, it takes a
Speaker 1: good actor to make you pity that the whole time,
Speaker 1: and James does a good job of it. A great
Speaker 1: point of being sympathetic while also being a total ass
Speaker 1: especially came from Yes, and a good actor puts the
Speaker 1: emotion under the anger that the anger is the mask for.
Speaker 1: And that's why you go, oh, I see what, I
Speaker 1: see what's under there? Will feel for that? Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know what? Who else had some real angry moments? And
Speaker 1: this was Moira? Oh my goodness. Yeah, I love watching
Speaker 1: her because she didn't just get mad and hit jewels
Speaker 1: slash Emily. She her whole chest got red, her face,
Speaker 1: it was like that that Irish, beautiful porcelain skin just
Speaker 1: turned that rash went red all the way up, which
Speaker 1: she's down her neck, down her the chest. Yes, but
Speaker 1: I was like, God, she's just so real. She's actually
Speaker 1: feels that anger. You can't fake that, you can't make
Speaker 1: your body react. That's muscle memory. Yeah, And as an
Speaker 1: older actor, I remember being a kid and like watching
Speaker 1: like the older folks on our show do stuff and
Speaker 1: I'm like, how do they do that? Right? And then
Speaker 1: it really is just exercise. It's muscle memory. It's like
Speaker 1: how do I make my whole body flush? How do
Speaker 1: I make my eyes tear up? How do I make
Speaker 1: my nostrils flair? How do I make my chin on bowl?
Speaker 1: But there's behavior like you can and that's like the
Speaker 1: behavior can be learned to copy behavior, but to actually
Speaker 1: feel it. Where do you goes in those scenes? Where
Speaker 1: who do you think she's mad at in real life?
Speaker 1: I don't nobody. I think she's literally in the moment,
Speaker 1: mad at Jules. I think that's just she's just you
Speaker 1: said that once. Joy. I remember like asking you how
Speaker 1: you cried because you're so good at it. I remember
Speaker 1: asking you that on our show once and you were
Speaker 1: just like, I don't know, Haley sad, so I'm sad.
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, that's it, Like it's whoa,
Speaker 1: I feel like Bill and Ted I was just like,
Speaker 1: mind is blown always. I remember all of us figuring
Speaker 1: out how to do those things, and same some people
Speaker 1: saying like, oh, yeah, you know I have this trick.
Speaker 1: I think about this thing, this loss I experienced her,
Speaker 1: you know, I like keep a pair of tweezers in
Speaker 1: my pocket and poked my finger, all these tricks and
Speaker 1: I was like, however you do to be upset? Like,
Speaker 1: I have to be really genuinely upset, and then I
Speaker 1: go home and I have to figure out how to
Speaker 1: get all this upset out of my body so I
Speaker 1: can sleep. Well, you know, I'm the same way, for
Speaker 1: better or worse. But I just recently shot a movie
Speaker 1: and um, one of the actors in the movies Super
Speaker 1: Experience works all the time and is incredibly well respected,
Speaker 1: and he just like had the lady come over and
Speaker 1: blow mental in his eyes and that was it. And
Speaker 1: and he was just like, it's all the same the audience.
Speaker 1: It's movie magic. The audience doesn't know. As long as
Speaker 1: I can give them, give them what they want, then
Speaker 1: they don't know the difference. I was like, God, that's
Speaker 1: just so baller. I love it. And then I don't
Speaker 1: go home and torture my family. What I'm saying like,
Speaker 1: you're not exhausted, You're not like sending your heart through
Speaker 1: all this gut wrenching experience. You just and it was
Speaker 1: real believable. Well, Jewels Jewels slash. Emily certainly got her
Speaker 1: ass handed to her in this episode, but we noted
Speaker 1: at the beginning of this, you know, Nathan is lamenting
Speaker 1: the whole situation with Haley and Jules is like in
Speaker 1: her spiral about what's going to happen with Keith, you know,
Speaker 1: and like keeping the secret. Jules and Keith start out
Speaker 1: with a lie the same way Haley and Nathan do.
Speaker 1: And we're rooting for Haley and Nathan. Are we equally
Speaker 1: rooting for Jewels and Keith? Well? I don't know that
Speaker 1: we are. But what I think was a great device,
Speaker 1: and I thought Chad played the scene really well. Is
Speaker 1: they made Chad the one who called Nathan out on it.
Speaker 1: Like Nathan's talking trash about what Juels is doing to Keith,
Speaker 1: and Lucas looks at him and basically says, you started
Speaker 1: the exact same way, and you love Haley and it
Speaker 1: and you saw how it disarmed Nathan and and in
Speaker 1: a way I wonder now looking back, if the writers
Speaker 1: did it almost as a device to remind the audience, Wow,
Speaker 1: you guys really want to pile on Jewels, but you've
Speaker 1: sure been rooting for Nathan and Haley this whole time.
Speaker 1: I was kind of like, oh, I feel a little
Speaker 1: called out in my defensiveness of Keith. Maybe I should
Speaker 1: maybe I should believe Jewels. What do you think? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: That didn't occur to me at all, I thought, especially
Speaker 1: especially because Lucas was the one who was like, what
Speaker 1: are you doing to Haley? And the Nelly of it
Speaker 1: all want him over And so in a way, you
Speaker 1: you see in that moment why he's gone along with
Speaker 1: Dan's plan, why he's moved in with Dan, why he's
Speaker 1: done all this because he wants Keith to have a shot. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I do too, And I see it's like they're really
Speaker 1: starting to grow on me. Okay, well maybe if if
Speaker 1: she really loves him and he really loves her. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the lie is going to have to be uncovered and
Speaker 1: dealt with, but that doesn't change their personalities. They didn't
Speaker 1: bond on. They didn't let us see enough fun scenes
Speaker 1: between Jewels. You know, we've gotten to see a lot
Speaker 1: of romance between Nathan and Haley, which is lovely, and
Speaker 1: the only time we ever see Jewels is when Dan
Speaker 1: is kind of like twirling his mustache. Um And had
Speaker 1: we been able to see more of the fun stuff
Speaker 1: between them, plus, that would have been great for Craig,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He's such a great leading
Speaker 1: romantic partner, and I wish that we'd gotten to see
Speaker 1: him in that, because we've only seen him Pine after
Speaker 1: Karen and then go to the total opposite end of
Speaker 1: the spectrum and be like in a serious relationship with jewels.
Speaker 1: So where's like the flirting? Give me some flirt? Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: and remember how good it was like when they were
Speaker 1: on the phone and she said, oh, you're calling for
Speaker 1: a survey, like we loved that. I sometimes I lament
Speaker 1: when TV shows do the thing which they do because
Speaker 1: you only have an hour, but they say, oh, well
Speaker 1: off screen, this has happened, and now what we're going
Speaker 1: to show on screen? But I want to see the
Speaker 1: screen stuff. I want to see more of, you know,
Speaker 1: their dates and their comedy and and the way they
Speaker 1: you know, share I played the food at a restaurant
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. I want to see more of
Speaker 1: Maria Manunos in that red silk robe. How gorgeous was
Speaker 1: she that? It was like, somebody get me a red
Speaker 1: silk robe. That was great make pajama but god, it
Speaker 1: was just like she looked so beautiful. All the women looked. Sorry,
Speaker 1: it's just kind of a weird segue, but like I
Speaker 1: just I had this in my notes that the colors,
Speaker 1: the blue silk and I loved Maria. But but Maria
Speaker 1: did such a beautiful job with her performance in this
Speaker 1: and all the conflicting motions, and you know, you really
Speaker 1: didn't know what was going to happen, Like I was
Speaker 1: on the show and I did not know whether she
Speaker 1: was going to run or shows day. Yeah, I couldn't remember,
Speaker 1: and I I liked to that. You felt like maybe
Speaker 1: she was able to get past things with Dan when
Speaker 1: she was in that you know robe and he showed
Speaker 1: up and tried to give her a necklace and she
Speaker 1: wouldn't take it. But it's the threat from Karen. And
Speaker 1: what a gut punch that is when Dan is trying
Speaker 1: to hide that smile and says, you know, way to go, Cupid,
Speaker 1: this one's on you. That hurt guys. I her screwed
Speaker 1: up by the technicalities because having been married, like how
Speaker 1: did Jules get a marriage license with a hero same
Speaker 1: Like there's all these little things that I'm like we
Speaker 1: could and watching the show all these years later, the
Speaker 1: fact that Andy had to leave to go get that
Speaker 1: photo and a Manila envelope. Now we would just pull
Speaker 1: it up on an iPhone, you know what. All the
Speaker 1: problems iPhone solves, So how do we even make TV
Speaker 1: would Why wouldn't the p I bring the photo to
Speaker 1: Andy and he's clearly paying him a pretty penny to
Speaker 1: do this research. He could have driven it to the church.
Speaker 1: Why did Andy have to go somewhere? Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: really weird. Was it just to get Karen and Andy
Speaker 1: outside for that gorgeous pushed upward shot? Like what it was?
Speaker 1: I think it was also to create more tension with
Speaker 1: the time, like we're like, is he going to make
Speaker 1: it back in time to reveal the thing? Yeah? It
Speaker 1: was just an excellent layer of So it wasn't just
Speaker 1: to get them out of that weird kitchen with the
Speaker 1: bowl of carrots. What was with the bowl of carrots?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it's a giant bowl of carrots.
Speaker 1: Who did set deck that day? Sophia? You know what
Speaker 1: I'm bringing to your wedding, a giant bowl of carrots.
Speaker 1: I can't wait. Let's switch over to Whitey. We had
Speaker 1: some great Whitey energy in this episode, so nice to
Speaker 1: see him back. I love Barry Corbin. I love he's
Speaker 1: just so reliable, you know exactly what you're getting get
Speaker 1: and I love that he just hands Nathan's ask to him,
Speaker 1: the pitty store is closed today. You know, she's your
Speaker 1: wife where I come from, that still means something. He's
Speaker 1: so salty and he's not interested in Nathan's like, you know, feelings.
Speaker 1: He's just like, grow up and figure it out. She's
Speaker 1: your wife. It's meaningful and it's it's like it's exactly
Speaker 1: the counter energy to to everyone else like panicking over
Speaker 1: him that you need coddling. Yeah, he's not one to coddle. I. UM,
Speaker 1: I wanted to tell you guys because Barry. I always
Speaker 1: just love stories about Barry and we love him so much. UM.
Speaker 1: And I did Jordan's Ross, his grandson's podcast. His grandson
Speaker 1: is an actor on Three and the Chosen and UM
Speaker 1: a few other projects he's coming out. But I just
Speaker 1: did his podcast called What's Your Limp? Um. So, Jordan's
Speaker 1: is an actor with cerebral palsy and scoliosis and he
Speaker 1: walks with a limp, and so the podcast is called
Speaker 1: What's your Limp? And he's had this limp since he
Speaker 1: was really young. And he was telling me how you know,
Speaker 1: the kids at school would make fun of him, as
Speaker 1: kids do unfortunately, and Barry used to when when we
Speaker 1: were on One Tree Hill and when the show was
Speaker 1: really in the height of its popularity and Jordan was
Speaker 1: in that age range, Barry would come to school and
Speaker 1: bring him his lunch and and purposely walk it to
Speaker 1: him in the cafeteria where everybody could see him. And
Speaker 1: then you know, and him as lunch, spent some time
Speaker 1: chat with him, and when he would go away, all
Speaker 1: the kids were like, your grandpa's Coach white no way,
Speaker 1: that's so cool. And he would do it on purpose,
Speaker 1: just to continue to you know, support. I just love
Speaker 1: Barry so much. That's the kind of person that Barry
Speaker 1: Corbyn is. Um. If you didn't know what you know
Speaker 1: what you see with Coach Whitey. Really it shines through
Speaker 1: when I think about the men that we had as
Speaker 1: our mentor protectors as young women. You know, we had
Speaker 1: some who weren't, but we had Barry, we had Craig Scheffer,
Speaker 1: we had Paul Johansson, my god, with our cast we
Speaker 1: won the lottery with those with with me, with those
Speaker 1: older men, with that energy and and how lucky we
Speaker 1: are that the kind of love that he would you know,
Speaker 1: show his grandson in those moments, that's the way they
Speaker 1: took care of us on set. God, yeah, just awesome.
Speaker 1: So I just had to talk about that. I love
Speaker 1: I love Barry Corbyn so much and I loved what
Speaker 1: he brought to this episode. He's such a fine theater
Speaker 1: actor because he can do that whole rant right where
Speaker 1: he's like no no, no no no no, no, no
Speaker 1: no no, there's your story and to smile like he's
Speaker 1: he's rehearsed in a way that is so professional and
Speaker 1: it just you know, he makes it look easy. And
Speaker 1: that's not to understand to not fall into your same,
Speaker 1: like Cadence, your same, just like vocal read the things
Speaker 1: like that, Like Barry always finds the turn and if
Speaker 1: you watch his performances, he's just he's a master at that.
Speaker 1: The smile at the end. Also, I just love the
Speaker 1: dig on his way out after the smile, his ideas
Speaker 1: faked by the way. It was such a good button
Speaker 1: on a scene and and it's it's an incredible thing
Speaker 1: when you watch people take pain and turn it into
Speaker 1: something that provides the comic relief of a very emotionally
Speaker 1: heightened episode. I was like, this is fun. I am
Speaker 1: deeply enjoying what I'm seeing right now. Somebody else entry Hill,
Speaker 1: who definitely has a fake idea is Brooke Davis, and
Speaker 1: she was so fun in this episode. I rich girl things.
Speaker 1: I love almost rich girl things. That needs to be
Speaker 1: on a T shirt too. Who's keeping track of all
Speaker 1: the things we say? And to be Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I know it's so funny. I um. I also loved
Speaker 1: because I remember, and I've forgotten until it was on
Speaker 1: in front of us, but having to run into your
Speaker 1: room that morning, Hill and you know you and Greenberg
Speaker 1: are in bed, is Peyton and Jake, and um, Jenny's
Speaker 1: just said dad, dad, and it's this whole beautiful, you know,
Speaker 1: family moment for these young people. And I remember being like, you, guys,
Speaker 1: I'm saying so many words before I acknowledge that they're
Speaker 1: in bed together. It's ridiculous and it's great. And then
Speaker 1: I was like, I had this moment where I went,
Speaker 1: maybe it's ridiculously funny, and I remember fun it was
Speaker 1: to lean into that and just be so excited to
Speaker 1: tell you something that for what felt like two minutes,
Speaker 1: I don't even notice there's other people in the room
Speaker 1: with us. And it classically made me laugh today and
Speaker 1: it was very happy, classic Lucy Classic Lucy Ball. Yes,
Speaker 1: but it's the stick. The Brook's gonna leave town because
Speaker 1: her daddy's getting a new job. Like, I was just
Speaker 1: so fixated on your outfit, in your cute hair and
Speaker 1: like you being funny that I was like, wait, what
Speaker 1: you're like? Now they're teasing You're going to leave it too? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was sudden. To that was really sudden. I was
Speaker 1: totally focused on that scalloped sparkle vintage or whatever dress.
Speaker 1: Whoever made that dress, Betsy Johnson, I don't know, but
Speaker 1: I want that dress back. You guys, it's not my
Speaker 1: color palette like Hillary. To your point, I'm much more androgynous.
Speaker 1: I wear a lot of men's suits, but something in
Speaker 1: my body viscerally you're to touch that dress again. I
Speaker 1: can't explain it. It was closet. Yeah, I just want
Speaker 1: to see it in there and be like, that's mine. Yea.
Speaker 1: If anybody knows where it is, can you email? We
Speaker 1: need professionals like researcher that goes on first DIBs and
Speaker 1: real real and finds us the things that we miss.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I mean? Yeah, we need we
Speaker 1: need to set sleuth. I Um, it's interesting too because
Speaker 1: it brought back I forgot where the episode ended. Seeing
Speaker 1: that dress again brought back the conversation that I now
Speaker 1: realized happens in episode seventeen, UM between Brooke and Lucas.
Speaker 1: That is one of my favorite moments in early seasons,
Speaker 1: especially for their storyline, and I was kind of waiting
Speaker 1: for it, and then when the episode ended, I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, it's kind of a two parter. This
Speaker 1: is amazing I forgot. But the the sweetness of them
Speaker 1: trying to have this budding friendship, um in an episode
Speaker 1: where the writers did give me so much like I
Speaker 1: love Lucy comedy. God, I'm nostalgic for that. That was
Speaker 1: like my favorite part of playing Brooke was when the
Speaker 1: comedy was really fun and then the and then we
Speaker 1: got to get vulnerable and you know, she doesn't totally
Speaker 1: know what to do with it, but she's finding her way.
Speaker 1: Something really interesting about Brooke in this episode that I noticed,
Speaker 1: which I think has been going on for a while,
Speaker 1: but it jumped out at me right now, Um, instead
Speaker 1: of Okay, it's just half baked, so find it with me.
Speaker 1: Instead of blaming her, like being unhappy on her circumstances,
Speaker 1: she lost her money. You know, she's um, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of drama with boys. She's just trying. She is
Speaker 1: trying to find her way. But instead of pointing fingers
Speaker 1: and trying to solve the problem by um, it's pointing
Speaker 1: her finger at Felix and being like, it's your fault.
Speaker 1: You know we're together, but I don't really love you.
Speaker 1: I want to be with this guy. She just kind
Speaker 1: of settled, like every it was like everything just kind
Speaker 1: of settled down, and she was like, I'm gonna stop
Speaker 1: making rash decisions, making uh, having big reactions to things.
Speaker 1: I'm going to spend time finding myself and I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna blame my happiness or unhappiness on my circumstances. I'm
Speaker 1: going to let the circumstances say the same, stay the same.
Speaker 1: So that to me, I guess maybe that, to me
Speaker 1: is how I justified her not breaking up with Felix
Speaker 1: yet when she clearly is still has feelings for Lucas
Speaker 1: or might might have feelings for someone else too. It's
Speaker 1: more just in the future. I mean, it's just that
Speaker 1: she was finding herself instead of constantly pulling on everything,
Speaker 1: strings on everything around her, Like what's going to unravel.
Speaker 1: You know, how do I fix myself? Yeah, well, it's
Speaker 1: it's kind of a precursor till later seasons where she says,
Speaker 1: I stopped letting boys define me. She's she's in the
Speaker 1: beginning of that going I don't know that I'm happy
Speaker 1: he's he's being good to me. I don't know if
Speaker 1: that's enough, but it's more about me. I'm she says,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm feeling independent. Maybe I don't want a boyfriend.
Speaker 1: It's so nice and she's just going to take a
Speaker 1: set it before she involves anyone else's feelings and figure
Speaker 1: out how she feels and they act from that place.
Speaker 1: When she's so joyful in this episode, which is nice
Speaker 1: because we've seen we meet Brooke and she's super joyful,
Speaker 1: but she's also like playing a part like I'm the
Speaker 1: bad girl. And then she goes through her like dark,
Speaker 1: manipulative phase at the Nathan Scott party and then we
Speaker 1: see sad Brooke whose heart is broken and so to
Speaker 1: get happy, independent, hopeful Brooke Davis in this episode feels
Speaker 1: great and the gift that we all know that we
Speaker 1: all love. We squealed, like that's my gift. When when
Speaker 1: they decide they're going to go to the wedding together.
Speaker 1: I love that game. It's so iconic that that scene,
Speaker 1: and you're so I mean, I remember Paul telling us, uh,
Speaker 1: when he was directing to commit, He's like, you have
Speaker 1: to commit to things. If you haf acid, you look silly, right,
Speaker 1: And you were always so good at committing to that
Speaker 1: like over the top excitement. You made it so believable
Speaker 1: that it's like, yes, of course, that's how a sixteen
Speaker 1: year old girl would react. She would literally squeal, as
Speaker 1: we all did when we watched your that's all still
Speaker 1: sixteen year old girls deep down? Um, can we talk
Speaker 1: about Peyton and Jake if we must guys to really sexy?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that was like the most sex we've
Speaker 1: had on the show. I feel like, alright, alright a
Speaker 1: h Also, I'm realizing in this moment, Brooke is kind
Speaker 1: of the audience Like I I got to say everything
Speaker 1: that the audience was saying at home, which is like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, you guys are in bed together. What
Speaker 1: are you doing? I'm going to leave okay by like
Speaker 1: what's happening? And when you guys get to the church
Speaker 1: and she's like, you did it. I was speaking for
Speaker 1: the entire One Tree Hill fandom in that moment, being
Speaker 1: like I could see it on your face. We saw
Speaker 1: it in that scene. Okay our eyes, guys, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: can't watch it. It's uncomfortable because I okay, I had
Speaker 1: a big conflict with this scene because I remember Billy
Speaker 1: Dixon is like a beloved crew member of ours, and
Speaker 1: it's so much harder to say no to someone who
Speaker 1: you like and respect than it is to say it
Speaker 1: to a total stranger who's just coming into direct for
Speaker 1: ten days. Um. So Billy wanted to do this sex
Speaker 1: scene starting on our feet and like our legs rubbing
Speaker 1: together and like coming up our bodies, and I just
Speaker 1: really felt like that was way too adult. Also, I
Speaker 1: had been getting prison mail since I was on MTV,
Speaker 1: and there was like a couple of dudes in particular
Speaker 1: that were like, I'm going to cut your feet off
Speaker 1: and put them in my refrigerator. And so I had
Speaker 1: this weird thing couple of a couple of us oh yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: very specific letters. And I had a thing about my
Speaker 1: feet on TV. I would always try to like hide
Speaker 1: my feet because I was just like, I don't want
Speaker 1: them to think I'm baiting them, you know, and we're kids,
Speaker 1: and you know, like anyway, So I remember being like, please, please,
Speaker 1: please don't start on this shot and they're like, we're
Speaker 1: not going to and I'm like, please don't. They're like,
Speaker 1: we just have to shoot it, but it's gonna be
Speaker 1: blurred and you guys are like in the blankets and
Speaker 1: it'll be fuzzy. And when that thing aired on TV
Speaker 1: and it starts on our feet and our legs like
Speaker 1: Grasshopper in together, I'm just like, what the heck is
Speaker 1: this so so frustrating. It's listen now we get to
Speaker 1: watch playback. Back then, it was like on film and
Speaker 1: you just had to trust what was going on at
Speaker 1: the monitor was what you asked. That's why we didn't
Speaker 1: trust anybody. For God's sake, damn it. Of course that
Speaker 1: said that was the longest sex scene in the history
Speaker 1: of my career. It was it was hot, it was
Speaker 1: also I don't know, it was like it was really
Speaker 1: beautiful because you you'd spent all this tender time with
Speaker 1: these two and they'd spent so much time in bed together,
Speaker 1: you know, taking it slow and having emotional conversations that
Speaker 1: the payoff. We were all just like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: it's like the fireworks finally went off. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: loved it. You guys have such great We'll say it
Speaker 1: again and again, and I was just so happy to
Speaker 1: see it was It was really sweet. It was really sweet.
Speaker 1: And what did like a freaking bum out to like,
Speaker 1: finally do the damn thing, go to a super romantic wedding,
Speaker 1: have that go to shop and be like, well, let's
Speaker 1: go home, and then we're happy. And then Nikki's on
Speaker 1: the doorstep, like how much that can happen in one
Speaker 1: day in tree Hill? And by the way Nikki gets
Speaker 1: revealed by the baby mama, I was like, oh this
Speaker 1: a deep cut. That that is a wound. Just oh yeah,
Speaker 1: the baaby Jenny when they when they get her out
Speaker 1: of the car, they're talking and the baby goes mama
Speaker 1: and then it cuts and you see Nikki in the shadow.
Speaker 1: Maybe it glitched I miss that, But another technical error
Speaker 1: because the way Greenberg is holding that baby, no one,
Speaker 1: no parent has ever held a baby like forward facing
Speaker 1: like that to get out of the car. And it's
Speaker 1: just another one of those blocking devices where it's like
Speaker 1: we need the baby to be able to see Nikki
Speaker 1: and say mama. That's so annoying. Though he totally could
Speaker 1: have had her over the shoulder and then just turned
Speaker 1: his head around, but then we couldn't have seen him,
Speaker 1: you know, like it was bad blocking. But babies don't
Speaker 1: say mama until they're like seventeen years old. Dad. Dad
Speaker 1: is always the first word. It's so frustrating because you're
Speaker 1: the one like breastfeeding and you can see it by
Speaker 1: the way baby Jenny is laughing and then the sound
Speaker 1: is mama and they're like her, didn't make that shape.
Speaker 1: But but I understand that you can't control babies on camera,
Speaker 1: like you can't control any small living creature on camera.
Speaker 1: And it's I guess we're just going to drop in
Speaker 1: the sound trauma. It was trauma. I love the trauma
Speaker 1: with deb you know, we we've talked about like in
Speaker 1: future or in previous episodes. We've been like, when does
Speaker 1: Bell Dead become an addict? Like when it's Keith Sweat
Speaker 1: where it starts, and Chad did such a good Yeah,
Speaker 1: Chad did a really good job in that scene because
Speaker 1: we were all like, how audacious for a teenage boy
Speaker 1: to confront an adult about an addiction issue? Okay, but
Speaker 1: also Sophia, I loved your comment about Lucas in the
Speaker 1: hallway creepy. You know, you guys, this is this is
Speaker 1: a moment where I wish we could talk to Billy
Speaker 1: Digs in there. We're blocking again, you got is okay,
Speaker 1: So what we're referencing is when when Barbara as Dab
Speaker 1: is in the kitchen and she takes the bottle of
Speaker 1: painkillers out of like a you know, a kitchen cupboard
Speaker 1: and takes one the cabinets. Well, yes, but you know why.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but you know, it moves from her
Speaker 1: around her face, and you see Lucas peering around the
Speaker 1: kitchen cabinets like he's in some c I a break in,
Speaker 1: leaning on. He's leaning against but but they made him
Speaker 1: lean and then they literally had him just like pulled
Speaker 1: backwards along the cabinets till he disappeared like Homer Simpson
Speaker 1: disappearing into the bushes like on The Simpsons. And we
Speaker 1: were all like, is that sometimes directors tell you to
Speaker 1: do something that to Hillary's point, when you see on camera,
Speaker 1: you just go, god, damn it. I shouldn't have listened.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't back Oh god, yeah, that whole thing could
Speaker 1: have had better, tunny technicalities of all of it were
Speaker 1: so strange, but no, yes, you're right like it. It was.
Speaker 1: It was a very ballsy move for Lucas to go
Speaker 1: called about on it. She handled it well, she did.
Speaker 1: I actually thought they were both so good in that
Speaker 1: scene because you could see his discomfort as a young
Speaker 1: person saying this, trying to relate it to his own
Speaker 1: experience that felt a little scary, and her just to
Speaker 1: be like, oh, just what I need an adolescent boy,
Speaker 1: and her rage and the way she put him in
Speaker 1: his place, telling him, you know, you're a guest in
Speaker 1: my house. All of this it you saw it fall
Speaker 1: when she closed the door. Barbara immediately played the shame
Speaker 1: and the fear about what she was doing. And I
Speaker 1: just thought it was beautiful. Yeah, I mean it's both
Speaker 1: of them said all the right things, you know. He
Speaker 1: said what you're supposed to say when you see someone
Speaker 1: who you think might be in peril, and she also
Speaker 1: said all the things that you say when a child
Speaker 1: comes at you and you are a grown ass woman
Speaker 1: trying to deal with your Yeah, that's right. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: like scenes where both characters are in the right I
Speaker 1: do too, And it and it interestingly, I think allowed
Speaker 1: us to see, you see who's in the right. Even
Speaker 1: with Karen and Jules, they are both in the right.
Speaker 1: So many people are both in the right. And it
Speaker 1: allows Dan in this episode to feel even more evil
Speaker 1: when Jules isn't coming down the aisle and Dan Scott
Speaker 1: is the only person not facing the back of the church,
Speaker 1: He's watching Keith so happy, and then that end scene
Speaker 1: where he knocks him off the wedding cake and he
Speaker 1: and he sets his sights on deb it. It fueled
Speaker 1: this darkness that was so so creepy. It was creepy. Well,
Speaker 1: I would like to hear straight from the horse's mouth
Speaker 1: about the relationship between Keith and Dan and Paul and Greg,
Speaker 1: and so if any of you are interested in that,
Speaker 1: we certainly have a super super special guest today, my
Speaker 1: former early twenties crush and honestly still are crush, super
Speaker 1: baby doll. I love the super babe ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1: Mr Craig Jeffer, Oh my god, god, you look fantastic.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Hi, oh man better now we miss you.
Speaker 1: Look at this? What is this? What are you wearing?
Speaker 1: I love this jacket? What is this red jacket one
Speaker 1: of my things that I designed. Okay, I'll let okay,
Speaker 1: So if we have so many places to start, I
Speaker 1: don't even know where to start. Craig right, Hillary buttons.
Speaker 1: It is one of my prize possessions. I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: disappear right now and come back with my fur. I'm
Speaker 1: going to be right back discuss. Craig is like the
Speaker 1: most romantic man on the planet. I'll be right back.
Speaker 1: She was just before you got on. She was like,
Speaker 1: I've got to go up to the attic and get
Speaker 1: this gift that Craig got me. It's the best ever.
Speaker 1: Oh that is so cute. Oh my goodness. You're in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. I'm in l A right now. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so if you where are you again? So I'm based
Speaker 1: in l A. But my my show that I'm doing
Speaker 1: right now is shooting in Toronto. So yeah, yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1: And so I'm here for another I don't know, ten
Speaker 1: days and then I'll be home. Oh my god, please
Speaker 1: come over. Can we all just get together. Are you
Speaker 1: living in l A or you kind of back and
Speaker 1: forth between l A and someplace else where in Pennsylvania
Speaker 1: From most of the last decade with my my family,
Speaker 1: my mom and my brother passed away. I think I
Speaker 1: saw you before that. But yeah, so I moved back
Speaker 1: here and I got back a week before the pandemic,
Speaker 1: which was really exciting. Whoa, And so things are just
Speaker 1: kind of, you know, starting life back in l A again,
Speaker 1: everything starting back up again slowly. It feels like during
Speaker 1: the pandemic everybody got a hobby. Everybody started making bread
Speaker 1: and likes. But you talking about this amazing jacket that
Speaker 1: you made. You've been doing this forever. So before we
Speaker 1: get into Keith Scott, we got to talk about Craig
Speaker 1: Cheffer being a true jack of all trades and a
Speaker 1: renaissance man. Renaissance man. Where where did making clothes that
Speaker 1: looked like they walked off a runway? Where does this
Speaker 1: come from? You know, it really started with traveling when
Speaker 1: I was when I was young, and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: like twenties and thirties, I would do a job and
Speaker 1: I would you know, take that money and just go
Speaker 1: somewhere and travel. I think the first one was India. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I went to India. I was in India for a
Speaker 1: long time, for almost six months. And when I was
Speaker 1: there was still like a cowboy town. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: all it's all kind of changed. And I was like
Speaker 1: dirt streets. Uh. The town that I was staying was
Speaker 1: called my Sore and at that time it was just
Speaker 1: like like a total couch town. But anyway, they had
Speaker 1: all these you know shops with all these crazy materials,
Speaker 1: you know, and I just started going in and I
Speaker 1: was like, what do you what cost? Make me a
Speaker 1: shut done a fifty? You know, like, let's do it, baby.
Speaker 1: And I made like a hundred pieces of clothing and
Speaker 1: brought them all back. And then I I went to
Speaker 1: South America and I was in Peru and they had
Speaker 1: all kinds of cool out pack of stuff and I started.
Speaker 1: I brought a bunch of blankets and made capes and
Speaker 1: then I would make stuff for friends and my daughter.
Speaker 1: And you know, that's just one of my hobbies. Did
Speaker 1: you learn? How do you sew? Also, you're you're doing
Speaker 1: this by hand or your order? You design? I am not.
Speaker 1: I am not tackle, all right. I like to draw.
Speaker 1: That's about the only thing I can do like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not good at that, believe it or not. I
Speaker 1: take it to this wonderful lady who it works in
Speaker 1: a laundromat. You know, she Hem's clothes and all stuff.
Speaker 1: But of course she was trained way way back and
Speaker 1: you know, to make dresses and clothes and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I just I had my own buttons pressed off,
Speaker 1: these little crosses on them, and they're so cool. Like
Speaker 1: I want to steal that jacket if you send me,
Speaker 1: If you send me like a shirt or your size,
Speaker 1: I'll make you, guys all something Native American Western stuff.
Speaker 1: That's what I like. Hillary, You've got your thing. But
Speaker 1: Craig Schaffer, let it be known, you gave me my
Speaker 1: first fur coat ever. I felt so entirely grown up.
Speaker 1: I have moved eight thousand times in the last twenty years,
Speaker 1: and this coat comes with me everywhere. And for those
Speaker 1: of you at home who can't see this, Hilary is
Speaker 1: sporting a below the hip jacket with a nice tilted
Speaker 1: collar and buttons that are made out of brass. It's Craig.
Speaker 1: These are the Craigs pressed buttons that he made. It's something.
Speaker 1: It's not real silver, obviously, you know. It was the
Speaker 1: loveliest gift ever. And you brought it after um we
Speaker 1: threw a birthday party for your daughter, Like, how is
Speaker 1: Willow Willows great. Yeah, we see each other all the time.
Speaker 1: She actually is living up in a Girl Hills. You remember,
Speaker 1: I lived at mountin the Lake for your house. Was
Speaker 1: so awesome. She's up around there right now, and yeah,
Speaker 1: she's awesome. Men. You know, we have an amazing relationship
Speaker 1: and it's just it's the best thing, you know, as
Speaker 1: you know, as you guys know. Now, well, it's so weird, Craig,
Speaker 1: because you were like the dad on set. You and
Speaker 1: Moira had kids, you know, and then like Barbara started
Speaker 1: bringing her girls around, and it was it was wild
Speaker 1: because we looked at you guys as peers, but then
Speaker 1: you had like children, you know, and so we didn't
Speaker 1: know who to play with. You were the kids. It
Speaker 1: was also so fun, you guys so nice to little
Speaker 1: She'd come in the trailer and you were getting your
Speaker 1: makeup on, and she was so cool. She was the
Speaker 1: coolest kid. It was also so cool for us because,
Speaker 1: you know, to Hillary's point, like you guys felt like peers,
Speaker 1: but like the cool older siblings we'd all always wanted,
Speaker 1: but then you had these kids, who you know, Willow
Speaker 1: was this cool young woman. She was so creative and
Speaker 1: she wanted to hang out with us, and we looked
Speaker 1: up to us. Oh yeah, we felt like the Babysitters Club.
Speaker 1: We were like, it's happened, we are we are mentors.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think all of you guys were
Speaker 1: there that night. One time. It took her down to
Speaker 1: somebody's apartment and you guys had a sheet up and
Speaker 1: played a movie with her while I went down at dinner.
Speaker 1: I remember taking her to the mall. Who went to
Speaker 1: the mall with her and me? It wasn't Maybe we
Speaker 1: did because we all go. I don't know, there's nothing
Speaker 1: like strolling around the mall. Um, yes, please tell her
Speaker 1: for nothing. I think a huge part of why we
Speaker 1: why we took our roles as mentors in the show,
Speaker 1: because you know, we talked a lot on this show
Speaker 1: about how often we would fight for certain storylines or
Speaker 1: you know, fight for representing young women. And having Willow
Speaker 1: and Barbara's girls around, it was something that really affected
Speaker 1: us to hold us up to that standard of the
Speaker 1: responsibility that we felt. You know, I was so glad
Speaker 1: that those girls were around. Yeah, they were so lucky.
Speaker 1: That's inspiring, man. I got to leave something for the
Speaker 1: people coming. Yeah, you know, you said something that I wonder.
Speaker 1: I wonder how the fans at home are taking it.
Speaker 1: You know, Oh, you guys used to watch my daughter
Speaker 1: when I go to dinner with Paul, Like, yeah, is it?
Speaker 1: Is it crazy? Uh? For fans? Have you experienced that?
Speaker 1: It's wild for them to know that? You know, in
Speaker 1: real life, Craig and Paul adored each other, whereas on
Speaker 1: screen Dan and Keith or like the clashing of the
Speaker 1: rams all the time. I know, it is really funny,
Speaker 1: isn't it. Yeah, you can't quite a picture that, you know.
Speaker 1: He shot me and then we went out to dinner.
Speaker 1: You guys had worked together before. You did a movie
Speaker 1: in Actually, actually I saw it for the first time.
Speaker 1: Somebody made me see it. First of all, I didn't
Speaker 1: even know it was on TV anywhere. But in no
Speaker 1: way is called oh my god, Berserker. Berserker. Yeah. It
Speaker 1: was this really bad B movie we made in South Africa,
Speaker 1: like in nine or something like that, and we played
Speaker 1: these brothers and they had some like forty pounds of
Speaker 1: you know, you played brothers in that too, You played
Speaker 1: brothers and that only was the evil God. Had you
Speaker 1: worked with any of our other castmates before? On One
Speaker 1: Tree Hill let's see m Berry or Moira. No, I
Speaker 1: don't think so. What was so listen some of the
Speaker 1: people actually Shirley, right, yeah, Gary and I did a
Speaker 1: very uh at the time Darren movie. It was were
Speaker 1: naked for like a third of the movie. It's about
Speaker 1: tantric sense. Okay, wow, it's very progressive for the time,
Speaker 1: a tarent stamp. Shirley and I uh were in that movie.
Speaker 1: It was actually, I think a pretty good movie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna watch it now. Craig, you for tonight have
Speaker 1: to what are you talking about? You got it? I
Speaker 1: think one of our burning questions and Joy, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: ask it for you, Craig, did you know that Joy
Speaker 1: was in love with you? When we all live in
Speaker 1: Long Come back next week from part two to find out. Hey,
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