1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me. We're all about 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: that high school drama, Girl Drama Girl, all about them 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: high school queens. We'll take you for a ride in 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: our comic Girl Cheering for the drama Queen's Girl Fashion. 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: But you'll tough, girl. You can sit with us Girl Drama, Queens, Drama, 6 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: Queen's Drama, Queen's Drama Drawn MC Queen's Drama Queen's Episode 7 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: sixteen Somewhere a Clock is ticking Air date March first, 8 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: two thousand and five. Well, the synopsis on this one, guys, 9 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: is It's Jewels and Keith's wedding day. But will Jules 10 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: make it down the aisle? As Karen and Andy discover 11 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: the truth about her identity. Hayley makes an appearance on 12 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: National TV with Chris Keller that sends Nathan down a 13 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: drunken spiral. Peyton and Jake take their relationship to the 14 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: next level. Plus Brooke tags along with Lucas to Keith's wedding, 15 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: while her future as a Tree Hill resident might soon 16 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: be over because of her dad's new job. Who There 17 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: is a lot to unpack in this episode, and we 18 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 1: have someone very special to help us do it. Guys, 19 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: Craig Scheffer is joining us later in the show. We 20 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: can't wait. This was a good one. Yeah. We things 21 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: kept getting bigger and bigger and bigger on our show. 22 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: I forget, like, how many weddings did we have? I 23 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: had a couple, You had a couple. Everybody had a couple. 24 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: Every like six episodes. We need a wedding or or 25 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: a hospital giant group event, I know. Um, well, let's 26 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: start with the first thing that we all commented on, 27 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 1: because it's the it's um this this this director has 28 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: directed many episodes of One Tree Hill, and um, it's 29 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: Billy Dixon. And we all were just talking right off 30 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: the bat with all the great shots and the and 31 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: the beautiful um lighting and just the way that he 32 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: would capture where we are as characters using the camera. 33 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: And I thought that was really neat. What did you 34 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: guys think, Well, he's our director of photography. If anyone 35 00:01:55,920 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: understands a camera, it is Billy Dixon. Um. And he 36 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: also was a family guy. You know, his daughter was 37 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: always on set, his wife was always like hanging out 38 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: on set. And I was just telling you guys that 39 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: his daughter, who used to dress up as a cheerleader 40 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: and come hang out with us at the gym, just 41 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: got married and had a baby. Like I'm Facebook friends 42 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: at them, and I'm like, there's no way we're old 43 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: enough for Haley to have a baby, but we are. 44 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: It's so cute. One of the things, you know, um, 45 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: for the folks at home, that we were talking about, 46 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: when you think about how the director can manipulate a 47 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: camera to tell a story. If you if you notice, 48 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: there's a couple of shots that stand out. You know, 49 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: there's this low push upward at Karen and Andy when 50 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: they realize who Jules is. There's another moment, I like 51 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: the one where Jake is taking his coat off. Yeah, 52 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: so like Jake takes the coat off and then the 53 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: coat covers the camera and then it's into the coat 54 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: going around Craig's shoulders. It's all these cool things that 55 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: behind things too from far away long lenses. And yes, 56 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: like none of that stuff for y'all at home is scripted. 57 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: That's stuff that the director comes up with, how they 58 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: do those transitions, how they support an emotional feeling with 59 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: a technical choice. So it's really fun for us to 60 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: to get to see that, especially because, as Hillary said, 61 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 1: Billy was our director of photography for many years, so 62 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: he was on set with us all day every day. 63 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: I love this opening, the sailboat, the way the water 64 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: was listening, Lucas running, what did you say so much bouncing? Listen. 65 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: As I'm watching it, I'm like, oh, Lucas bounces this 66 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: ball all over town like he's been doing that for 67 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: a couple of seasons. And in my life, I'm trying 68 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: to think if I've ever seen a teen boy bounce 69 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: a ball through town like while he's running, like on 70 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: the jog that is an exclusive Lucas Scott trade, I think, yeah, 71 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: But I love to that opening. I liked the music. 72 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: It reminded me of like nineties rom com beginnings. Sophia 73 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: did not like this music. Look, i'm gonna say when 74 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: it first started, I was like, Oh, this feels poetic, 75 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: and then it got into that weird twangy elevator musach 76 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: like thing, and I was like, where are we going 77 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: with this? What's happening? What's going on? So yeah, I 78 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: went from a fan to not a fan. We transitioned 79 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: out of it pretty quickly, and I just got that 80 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: nice quote, this is the beginning, the beginning of always 81 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: something about the choice you make now at the beginning 82 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: of well, let's talk about choices now, Haley, Jake Scott 83 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: is out on tour and it's pressuring her. Smoking hot 84 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: is Joy as Haley on the phone, like, I'm sorry, 85 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,559 Speaker 1: I've been rehearsing all that love. I can't help it. Yeah, 86 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: I've never looked so good all night long, my whole life. 87 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's TV all night long. I like 88 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: that you put that little gravel on your voice though, 89 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: you were like, I'm sorry, we've that was a good 90 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: choice my hair for this. Yeah, so tired, you look sexy. Joy. 91 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: Do you feel like you were changing your style out 92 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: on the road, like was was Joy changing her style 93 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: out on the road while Haley was also out on 94 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: the road. I'm I'm constantly changing my style. I mean 95 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: I have I guess I'm constantly experimenting. I love fashion 96 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: is fun, but I think style is what's permanent, and 97 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: you know that's just who you are. So, especially in 98 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: my twenties, I was certainly always trying to figure out 99 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: who am I, what what what fits? What makes sense 100 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:41,239 Speaker 1: for me? Um So I'm definitely always experimenting with fashion 101 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: and have been since I was young. But but my style. 102 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: There's a groundedness about my style that will will never change. 103 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: I don't think. Wait, I love the way you just 104 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: said that. I I had to talk just the other 105 00:05:55,839 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 1: day about realizing there's a style I'm drawing on too, 106 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: but the level of experimenting I've done, whether with clothes 107 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: or hair. I had this sort of lightbulb moment where 108 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: I went, oh, yeah, for half my life I grew 109 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: up in a barn, so I was like in barn clothes. 110 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: For the other half of my life, I went to 111 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: a school where I wore a uniforms don't probably it 112 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: has no individual personality. And then for my entire adult life, 113 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: I've dressed up as other people. And so sometimes I 114 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: put clothes on and I go, who is this person 115 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: wearing this outfit? Do you feel like that? Like you 116 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: have to try on things to figure out what what 117 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: you put on that feels like you versus some character 118 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: or some look that maybe doesn't feel personal. I just 119 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: had to give notes on a photo shoot I'm supposed 120 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: to do, and they sent the look book and I 121 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: was like, this looks like someone who loves Coachella. I 122 00:06:55,839 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: need you to understand I am significantly more in progynous 123 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 1: than this. Yes, yes, and for me, like having played 124 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: a lot of pencil skirts. Um, that's hard because in 125 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: real life I'm still wearing the exact same thing I 126 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: wore in high school. It's like men's loose, baggy pants 127 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: and then like a little a little shirt. That is 128 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: what I wore at sixteen. It's what I wear. Att Yeah, 129 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: I've been. I think I started vintage shopping when I 130 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: was in high school and that was kind of it 131 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: for me. I I just was never into designer labels 132 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: for no other reason than I well, I couldn't afford 133 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: them when I was younger, um for sure, and but 134 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: I for most of my life. But I also just 135 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: love history. I love being a part of history. So 136 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: that's why I love old houses, old gadgets, old things. 137 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: So old clothes too. It feels like I'm stepping into something. 138 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: I love knowing that somebody else wore it a really 139 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: long time ago. I know some people that are too 140 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: super creeped out by that. Why did you put on 141 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: clothes and someone else war? You know? Speaking of my 142 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: little blazers, I just found it a a vintage shore in Toronto. 143 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: I found a vintage eve sail Laurenso I put it 144 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: on and I where you guys, it's blue, it's beautiful, 145 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: And I was like, where did this lady go and 146 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: what powerful thing did she do in this outfit? And 147 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: what of that energy am I going to take to 148 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: go do something badass like it makes me feel like 149 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: a superhero. Yeah, it's the best, it's taking it. Should 150 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: we open a vintage store? Yes? In Wilmington's Are you kidding? Sure? Well, 151 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to. I don't want to. I don't 152 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 1: want to give Jess james uh competition because she's got that. 153 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: I think we need to collaborate is what needs to happen. 154 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: The um you would love it, you guys. Nathan at 155 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: the top of this episode is bringing some very angry energy. 156 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: We're taking power Girl energy into our life. Nathan is 157 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: being so shitty to Haley at the beginning of this, 158 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: but it's so appropriate because he is a sixteen year 159 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: old boy and he's so hurt, and Haley is doing 160 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: and saying all the right things. What can I do? 161 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: What can I say? Well, and we've talked, we not 162 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: just us, but the world is recognizing that for a 163 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: very long time, we've pushed boys into a box that 164 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: is harmful for them. We tell them they're not allowed 165 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: to have feelings. Boys don't cry, Man up, toughen up, 166 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:25,359 Speaker 1: you know, grow a pair. All this nonsense that's so toxic, 167 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: not just for the women who have to deal with them, 168 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: but for the men who get segmented into thinking that 169 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: they're only permissible emotion is anger. Nathan is hurt and 170 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: so he's raging, and it's hard and it's heartbreaking to watch. 171 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: But I actually think it was done really well in 172 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: that we didn't pretend that he had the framework or 173 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: the tools to be this evolved person and deal with 174 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: his feelings. His feelings come out as anger, and the 175 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: people who love him have to keep saying we love you, 176 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: we're here for you, to to try to push him 177 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: into actually feeling his feelings. And I I thought James 178 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: did a really beautiful job with it. I really I 179 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: believed it, and I and I hurt for him watching 180 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: the episode, and and when he is finally feeling the 181 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: sadness alone at their wedding site, like his mom comes house, 182 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: it's just poetic. I think it's it's when you get 183 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: a script and you read anger right, it takes a 184 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: good actor to make you pity that the whole time, 185 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 1: and James does a good job of it. A great 186 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 1: point of being sympathetic while also being a total ass 187 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: especially came from Yes, and a good actor puts the 188 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: emotion under the anger that the anger is the mask for. 189 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: And that's why you go, oh, I see what, I 190 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: see what's under there? Will feel for that? Yeah, you 191 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: know what? Who else had some real angry moments? And 192 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: this was Moira? Oh my goodness. Yeah, I love watching 193 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: her because she didn't just get mad and hit jewels 194 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: slash Emily. She her whole chest got red, her face, 195 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: it was like that that Irish, beautiful porcelain skin just 196 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: turned that rash went red all the way up, which 197 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 1: she's down her neck, down her the chest. Yes, but 198 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: I was like, God, she's just so real. She's actually 199 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 1: feels that anger. You can't fake that, you can't make 200 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: your body react. That's muscle memory. Yeah, And as an 201 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: older actor, I remember being a kid and like watching 202 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: like the older folks on our show do stuff and 203 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, how do they do that? Right? And then 204 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: it really is just exercise. It's muscle memory. It's like 205 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: how do I make my whole body flush? How do 206 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 1: I make my eyes tear up? How do I make 207 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: my nostrils flair? How do I make my chin on bowl? 208 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: But there's behavior like you can and that's like the 209 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: behavior can be learned to copy behavior, but to actually 210 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: feel it. Where do you goes in those scenes? Where 211 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 1: who do you think she's mad at in real life? 212 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: I don't nobody. I think she's literally in the moment, 213 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 1: mad at Jules. I think that's just she's just you 214 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 1: said that once. Joy. I remember like asking you how 215 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: you cried because you're so good at it. I remember 216 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: asking you that on our show once and you were 217 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: just like, I don't know, Haley sad, so I'm sad. 218 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, that's it, Like it's whoa, 219 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: I feel like Bill and Ted I was just like, 220 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: mind is blown always. I remember all of us figuring 221 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: out how to do those things, and same some people 222 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: saying like, oh, yeah, you know I have this trick. 223 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: I think about this thing, this loss I experienced her, 224 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: you know, I like keep a pair of tweezers in 225 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: my pocket and poked my finger, all these tricks and 226 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: I was like, however you do to be upset? Like, 227 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: I have to be really genuinely upset, and then I 228 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 1: go home and I have to figure out how to 229 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: get all this upset out of my body so I 230 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: can sleep. Well, you know, I'm the same way, for 231 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: better or worse. But I just recently shot a movie 232 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: and um, one of the actors in the movies Super 233 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: Experience works all the time and is incredibly well respected, 234 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: and he just like had the lady come over and 235 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 1: blow mental in his eyes and that was it. And 236 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: and he was just like, it's all the same the audience. 237 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: It's movie magic. The audience doesn't know. As long as 238 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: I can give them, give them what they want, then 239 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: they don't know the difference. I was like, God, that's 240 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: just so baller. I love it. And then I don't 241 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: go home and torture my family. What I'm saying like, 242 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: you're not exhausted, You're not like sending your heart through 243 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: all this gut wrenching experience. You just and it was 244 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: real believable. Well, Jewels Jewels slash. Emily certainly got her 245 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 1: ass handed to her in this episode, but we noted 246 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: at the beginning of this, you know, Nathan is lamenting 247 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: the whole situation with Haley and Jules is like in 248 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: her spiral about what's going to happen with Keith, you know, 249 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: and like keeping the secret. Jules and Keith start out 250 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: with a lie the same way Haley and Nathan do. 251 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: And we're rooting for Haley and Nathan. Are we equally 252 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: rooting for Jewels and Keith? Well? I don't know that 253 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: we are. But what I think was a great device, 254 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: and I thought Chad played the scene really well. Is 255 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: they made Chad the one who called Nathan out on it. 256 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: Like Nathan's talking trash about what Juels is doing to Keith, 257 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: and Lucas looks at him and basically says, you started 258 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: the exact same way, and you love Haley and it 259 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: and you saw how it disarmed Nathan and and in 260 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: a way I wonder now looking back, if the writers 261 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: did it almost as a device to remind the audience, Wow, 262 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: you guys really want to pile on Jewels, but you've 263 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: sure been rooting for Nathan and Haley this whole time. 264 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: I was kind of like, oh, I feel a little 265 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: called out in my defensiveness of Keith. Maybe I should 266 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: maybe I should believe Jewels. What do you think? Right? Yeah? 267 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: That didn't occur to me at all, I thought, especially 268 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: especially because Lucas was the one who was like, what 269 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: are you doing to Haley? And the Nelly of it 270 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: all want him over And so in a way, you 271 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: you see in that moment why he's gone along with 272 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: Dan's plan, why he's moved in with Dan, why he's 273 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: done all this because he wants Keith to have a shot. Yeah, yeah, 274 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: I do too, And I see it's like they're really 275 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: starting to grow on me. Okay, well maybe if if 276 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: she really loves him and he really loves her. Yeah, 277 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: the lie is going to have to be uncovered and 278 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: dealt with, but that doesn't change their personalities. They didn't 279 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: bond on. They didn't let us see enough fun scenes 280 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: between Jewels. You know, we've gotten to see a lot 281 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: of romance between Nathan and Haley, which is lovely, and 282 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: the only time we ever see Jewels is when Dan 283 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: is kind of like twirling his mustache. Um And had 284 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: we been able to see more of the fun stuff 285 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: between them, plus, that would have been great for Craig, 286 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He's such a great leading 287 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: romantic partner, and I wish that we'd gotten to see 288 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: him in that, because we've only seen him Pine after 289 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: Karen and then go to the total opposite end of 290 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: the spectrum and be like in a serious relationship with jewels. 291 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: So where's like the flirting? Give me some flirt? Yeah, well, 292 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: and remember how good it was like when they were 293 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: on the phone and she said, oh, you're calling for 294 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: a survey, like we loved that. I sometimes I lament 295 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: when TV shows do the thing which they do because 296 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: you only have an hour, but they say, oh, well 297 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: off screen, this has happened, and now what we're going 298 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: to show on screen? But I want to see the 299 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 1: screen stuff. I want to see more of, you know, 300 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 1: their dates and their comedy and and the way they 301 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: you know, share I played the food at a restaurant 302 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 1: and all that stuff. I want to see more of 303 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: Maria Manunos in that red silk robe. How gorgeous was 304 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: she that? It was like, somebody get me a red 305 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: silk robe. That was great make pajama but god, it 306 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: was just like she looked so beautiful. All the women looked. Sorry, 307 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: it's just kind of a weird segue, but like I 308 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 1: just I had this in my notes that the colors, 309 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 1: the blue silk and I loved Maria. But but Maria 310 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: did such a beautiful job with her performance in this 311 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: and all the conflicting motions, and you know, you really 312 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: didn't know what was going to happen, Like I was 313 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: on the show and I did not know whether she 314 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 1: was going to run or shows day. Yeah, I couldn't remember, 315 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: and I I liked to that. You felt like maybe 316 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: she was able to get past things with Dan when 317 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: she was in that you know robe and he showed 318 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: up and tried to give her a necklace and she 319 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: wouldn't take it. But it's the threat from Karen. And 320 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: what a gut punch that is when Dan is trying 321 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 1: to hide that smile and says, you know, way to go, Cupid, 322 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: this one's on you. That hurt guys. I her screwed 323 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: up by the technicalities because having been married, like how 324 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: did Jules get a marriage license with a hero same 325 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: Like there's all these little things that I'm like we 326 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 1: could and watching the show all these years later, the 327 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: fact that Andy had to leave to go get that 328 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 1: photo and a Manila envelope. Now we would just pull 329 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: it up on an iPhone, you know what. All the 330 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: problems iPhone solves, So how do we even make TV 331 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: would Why wouldn't the p I bring the photo to 332 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 1: Andy and he's clearly paying him a pretty penny to 333 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: do this research. He could have driven it to the church. 334 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: Why did Andy have to go somewhere? Yeah, that was 335 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: really weird. Was it just to get Karen and Andy 336 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: outside for that gorgeous pushed upward shot? Like what it was? 337 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: I think it was also to create more tension with 338 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: the time, like we're like, is he going to make 339 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: it back in time to reveal the thing? Yeah? It 340 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 1: was just an excellent layer of So it wasn't just 341 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 1: to get them out of that weird kitchen with the 342 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: bowl of carrots. What was with the bowl of carrots? 343 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, but it's a giant bowl of carrots. 344 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: Who did set deck that day? Sophia? You know what 345 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: I'm bringing to your wedding, a giant bowl of carrots. 346 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 1: I can't wait. Let's switch over to Whitey. We had 347 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: some great Whitey energy in this episode, so nice to 348 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 1: see him back. I love Barry Corbin. I love he's 349 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 1: just so reliable, you know exactly what you're getting get 350 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: and I love that he just hands Nathan's ask to him, 351 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: the pitty store is closed today. You know, she's your 352 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: wife where I come from, that still means something. He's 353 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: so salty and he's not interested in Nathan's like, you know, feelings. 354 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: He's just like, grow up and figure it out. She's 355 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: your wife. It's meaningful and it's it's like it's exactly 356 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 1: the counter energy to to everyone else like panicking over 357 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: him that you need coddling. Yeah, he's not one to coddle. I. UM, 358 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: I wanted to tell you guys because Barry. I always 359 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,959 Speaker 1: just love stories about Barry and we love him so much. UM. 360 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,479 Speaker 1: And I did Jordan's Ross, his grandson's podcast. His grandson 361 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: is an actor on Three and the Chosen and UM 362 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: a few other projects he's coming out. But I just 363 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: did his podcast called What's Your Limp? Um. So, Jordan's 364 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: is an actor with cerebral palsy and scoliosis and he 365 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: walks with a limp, and so the podcast is called 366 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,479 Speaker 1: What's your Limp? And he's had this limp since he 367 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: was really young. And he was telling me how you know, 368 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: the kids at school would make fun of him, as 369 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 1: kids do unfortunately, and Barry used to when when we 370 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: were on One Tree Hill and when the show was 371 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: really in the height of its popularity and Jordan was 372 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: in that age range, Barry would come to school and 373 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: bring him his lunch and and purposely walk it to 374 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: him in the cafeteria where everybody could see him. And 375 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 1: then you know, and him as lunch, spent some time 376 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: chat with him, and when he would go away, all 377 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: the kids were like, your grandpa's Coach white no way, 378 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: that's so cool. And he would do it on purpose, 379 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: just to continue to you know, support. I just love 380 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: Barry so much. That's the kind of person that Barry 381 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 1: Corbyn is. Um. If you didn't know what you know 382 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: what you see with Coach Whitey. Really it shines through 383 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: when I think about the men that we had as 384 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 1: our mentor protectors as young women. You know, we had 385 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: some who weren't, but we had Barry, we had Craig Scheffer, 386 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: we had Paul Johansson, my god, with our cast we 387 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: won the lottery with those with with me, with those 388 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: older men, with that energy and and how lucky we 389 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: are that the kind of love that he would you know, 390 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: show his grandson in those moments, that's the way they 391 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 1: took care of us on set. God, yeah, just awesome. 392 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: So I just had to talk about that. I love 393 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: I love Barry Corbyn so much and I loved what 394 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 1: he brought to this episode. He's such a fine theater 395 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 1: actor because he can do that whole rant right where 396 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: he's like no no, no no no no, no, no 397 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: no no, there's your story and to smile like he's 398 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: he's rehearsed in a way that is so professional and 399 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: it just you know, he makes it look easy. And 400 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: that's not to understand to not fall into your same, 401 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 1: like Cadence, your same, just like vocal read the things 402 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 1: like that, Like Barry always finds the turn and if 403 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: you watch his performances, he's just he's a master at that. 404 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: The smile at the end. Also, I just love the 405 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,360 Speaker 1: dig on his way out after the smile, his ideas 406 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 1: faked by the way. It was such a good button 407 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: on a scene and and it's it's an incredible thing 408 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 1: when you watch people take pain and turn it into 409 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: something that provides the comic relief of a very emotionally 410 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: heightened episode. I was like, this is fun. I am 411 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: deeply enjoying what I'm seeing right now. Somebody else entry Hill, 412 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: who definitely has a fake idea is Brooke Davis, and 413 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 1: she was so fun in this episode. I rich girl things. 414 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 1: I love almost rich girl things. That needs to be 415 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 1: on a T shirt too. Who's keeping track of all 416 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: the things we say? And to be Oh my god, 417 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,479 Speaker 1: I know it's so funny. I um. I also loved 418 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,479 Speaker 1: because I remember, and I've forgotten until it was on 419 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 1: in front of us, but having to run into your 420 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: room that morning, Hill and you know you and Greenberg 421 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: are in bed, is Peyton and Jake, and um, Jenny's 422 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: just said dad, dad, and it's this whole beautiful, you know, 423 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: family moment for these young people. And I remember being like, you, guys, 424 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying so many words before I acknowledge that they're 425 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 1: in bed together. It's ridiculous and it's great. And then 426 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 1: I was like, I had this moment where I went, 427 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: maybe it's ridiculously funny, and I remember fun it was 428 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: to lean into that and just be so excited to 429 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: tell you something that for what felt like two minutes, 430 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: I don't even notice there's other people in the room 431 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:53,199 Speaker 1: with us. And it classically made me laugh today and 432 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,959 Speaker 1: it was very happy, classic Lucy Classic Lucy Ball. Yes, 433 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: but it's the stick. The Brook's gonna leave town because 434 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: her daddy's getting a new job. Like, I was just 435 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: so fixated on your outfit, in your cute hair and 436 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: like you being funny that I was like, wait, what 437 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: you're like? Now they're teasing You're going to leave it too? Yeah, 438 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: that was sudden. To that was really sudden. I was 439 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: totally focused on that scalloped sparkle vintage or whatever dress. 440 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: Whoever made that dress, Betsy Johnson, I don't know, but 441 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 1: I want that dress back. You guys, it's not my 442 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 1: color palette like Hillary. To your point, I'm much more androgynous. 443 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: I wear a lot of men's suits, but something in 444 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:38,199 Speaker 1: my body viscerally you're to touch that dress again. I 445 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 1: can't explain it. It was closet. Yeah, I just want 446 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: to see it in there and be like, that's mine. Yea. 447 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: If anybody knows where it is, can you email? We 448 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: need professionals like researcher that goes on first DIBs and 449 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: real real and finds us the things that we miss. 450 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I mean? Yeah, we need we 451 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: need to set sleuth. I Um, it's interesting too because 452 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: it brought back I forgot where the episode ended. Seeing 453 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: that dress again brought back the conversation that I now 454 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: realized happens in episode seventeen, UM between Brooke and Lucas. 455 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 1: That is one of my favorite moments in early seasons, 456 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: especially for their storyline, and I was kind of waiting 457 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: for it, and then when the episode ended, I was like, 458 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: oh my god, it's kind of a two parter. This 459 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 1: is amazing I forgot. But the the sweetness of them 460 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: trying to have this budding friendship, um in an episode 461 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: where the writers did give me so much like I 462 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: love Lucy comedy. God, I'm nostalgic for that. That was 463 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: like my favorite part of playing Brooke was when the 464 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: comedy was really fun and then the and then we 465 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,719 Speaker 1: got to get vulnerable and you know, she doesn't totally 466 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 1: know what to do with it, but she's finding her way. 467 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:09,199 Speaker 1: Something really interesting about Brooke in this episode that I noticed, 468 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: which I think has been going on for a while, 469 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: but it jumped out at me right now, Um, instead 470 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: of Okay, it's just half baked, so find it with me. 471 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 1: Instead of blaming her, like being unhappy on her circumstances, 472 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: she lost her money. You know, she's um, there's a 473 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 1: lot of drama with boys. She's just trying. She is 474 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,719 Speaker 1: trying to find her way. But instead of pointing fingers 475 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:38,719 Speaker 1: and trying to solve the problem by um, it's pointing 476 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: her finger at Felix and being like, it's your fault. 477 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 1: You know we're together, but I don't really love you. 478 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: I want to be with this guy. She just kind 479 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: of settled, like every it was like everything just kind 480 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: of settled down, and she was like, I'm gonna stop 481 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: making rash decisions, making uh, having big reactions to things. 482 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: I'm going to spend time finding myself and I'm not 483 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: gonna blame my happiness or unhappiness on my circumstances. I'm 484 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: going to let the circumstances say the same, stay the same. 485 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 1: So that to me, I guess maybe that, to me 486 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: is how I justified her not breaking up with Felix 487 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: yet when she clearly is still has feelings for Lucas 488 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: or might might have feelings for someone else too. It's 489 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: more just in the future. I mean, it's just that 490 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: she was finding herself instead of constantly pulling on everything, 491 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 1: strings on everything around her, Like what's going to unravel. 492 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: You know, how do I fix myself? Yeah, well, it's 493 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: it's kind of a precursor till later seasons where she says, 494 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 1: I stopped letting boys define me. She's she's in the 495 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: beginning of that going I don't know that I'm happy 496 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: he's he's being good to me. I don't know if 497 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: that's enough, but it's more about me. I'm she says, 498 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: I'm I'm feeling independent. Maybe I don't want a boyfriend. 499 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: It's so nice and she's just going to take a 500 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: set it before she involves anyone else's feelings and figure 501 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: out how she feels and they act from that place. 502 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: When she's so joyful in this episode, which is nice 503 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: because we've seen we meet Brooke and she's super joyful, 504 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: but she's also like playing a part like I'm the 505 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: bad girl. And then she goes through her like dark, 506 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: manipulative phase at the Nathan Scott party and then we 507 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: see sad Brooke whose heart is broken and so to 508 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: get happy, independent, hopeful Brooke Davis in this episode feels 509 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: great and the gift that we all know that we 510 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: all love. We squealed, like that's my gift. When when 511 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:47,959 Speaker 1: they decide they're going to go to the wedding together. 512 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: I love that game. It's so iconic that that scene, 513 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: and you're so I mean, I remember Paul telling us, uh, 514 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: when he was directing to commit, He's like, you have 515 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: to commit to things. If you haf acid, you look silly, right, 516 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: And you were always so good at committing to that 517 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: like over the top excitement. You made it so believable 518 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: that it's like, yes, of course, that's how a sixteen 519 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: year old girl would react. She would literally squeal, as 520 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: we all did when we watched your that's all still 521 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: sixteen year old girls deep down? Um, can we talk 522 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: about Peyton and Jake if we must guys to really sexy? 523 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that was like the most sex we've 524 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: had on the show. I feel like, alright, alright a 525 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: h Also, I'm realizing in this moment, Brooke is kind 526 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: of the audience Like I I got to say everything 527 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: that the audience was saying at home, which is like, 528 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: oh my god, you guys are in bed together. What 529 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 1: are you doing? I'm going to leave okay by like 530 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: what's happening? And when you guys get to the church 531 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: and she's like, you did it. I was speaking for 532 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: the entire One Tree Hill fandom in that moment, being 533 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: like I could see it on your face. We saw 534 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:12,479 Speaker 1: it in that scene. Okay our eyes, guys, Yeah, I 535 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: can't watch it. It's uncomfortable because I okay, I had 536 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: a big conflict with this scene because I remember Billy 537 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: Dixon is like a beloved crew member of ours, and 538 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: it's so much harder to say no to someone who 539 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: you like and respect than it is to say it 540 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: to a total stranger who's just coming into direct for 541 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: ten days. Um. So Billy wanted to do this sex 542 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: scene starting on our feet and like our legs rubbing 543 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: together and like coming up our bodies, and I just 544 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: really felt like that was way too adult. Also, I 545 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: had been getting prison mail since I was on MTV, 546 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: and there was like a couple of dudes in particular 547 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: that were like, I'm going to cut your feet off 548 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: and put them in my refrigerator. And so I had 549 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: this weird thing couple of a couple of us oh yeah, okay, 550 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: very specific letters. And I had a thing about my 551 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: feet on TV. I would always try to like hide 552 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: my feet because I was just like, I don't want 553 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: them to think I'm baiting them, you know, and we're kids, 554 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: and you know, like anyway, So I remember being like, please, please, 555 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: please don't start on this shot and they're like, we're 556 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: not going to and I'm like, please don't. They're like, 557 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: we just have to shoot it, but it's gonna be 558 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: blurred and you guys are like in the blankets and 559 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: it'll be fuzzy. And when that thing aired on TV 560 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: and it starts on our feet and our legs like 561 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: Grasshopper in together, I'm just like, what the heck is 562 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: this so so frustrating. It's listen now we get to 563 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,239 Speaker 1: watch playback. Back then, it was like on film and 564 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: you just had to trust what was going on at 565 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: the monitor was what you asked. That's why we didn't 566 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: trust anybody. For God's sake, damn it. Of course that 567 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: said that was the longest sex scene in the history 568 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: of my career. It was it was hot, it was 569 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: also I don't know, it was like it was really 570 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: beautiful because you you'd spent all this tender time with 571 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 1: these two and they'd spent so much time in bed together, 572 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: you know, taking it slow and having emotional conversations that 573 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: the payoff. We were all just like, oh my god, 574 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,719 Speaker 1: it's like the fireworks finally went off. Yeah, yeah, I 575 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: loved it. You guys have such great We'll say it 576 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: again and again, and I was just so happy to 577 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: see it was It was really sweet. It was really sweet. 578 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: And what did like a freaking bum out to like, 579 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: finally do the damn thing, go to a super romantic wedding, 580 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: have that go to shop and be like, well, let's 581 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: go home, and then we're happy. And then Nikki's on 582 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: the doorstep, like how much that can happen in one 583 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: day in tree Hill? And by the way Nikki gets 584 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: revealed by the baby mama, I was like, oh this 585 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 1: a deep cut. That that is a wound. Just oh yeah, 586 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: the baaby Jenny when they when they get her out 587 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: of the car, they're talking and the baby goes mama 588 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: and then it cuts and you see Nikki in the shadow. 589 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: Maybe it glitched I miss that, But another technical error 590 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: because the way Greenberg is holding that baby, no one, 591 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: no parent has ever held a baby like forward facing 592 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,399 Speaker 1: like that to get out of the car. And it's 593 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 1: just another one of those blocking devices where it's like 594 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,760 Speaker 1: we need the baby to be able to see Nikki 595 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,479 Speaker 1: and say mama. That's so annoying. Though he totally could 596 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 1: have had her over the shoulder and then just turned 597 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 1: his head around, but then we couldn't have seen him, 598 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: you know, like it was bad blocking. But babies don't 599 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 1: say mama until they're like seventeen years old. Dad. Dad 600 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: is always the first word. It's so frustrating because you're 601 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: the one like breastfeeding and you can see it by 602 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: the way baby Jenny is laughing and then the sound 603 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 1: is mama and they're like her, didn't make that shape. 604 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 1: But but I understand that you can't control babies on camera, 605 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 1: like you can't control any small living creature on camera. 606 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: And it's I guess we're just going to drop in 607 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: the sound trauma. It was trauma. I love the trauma 608 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 1: with deb you know, we we've talked about like in 609 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: future or in previous episodes. We've been like, when does 610 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 1: Bell Dead become an addict? Like when it's Keith Sweat 611 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 1: where it starts, and Chad did such a good Yeah, 612 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: Chad did a really good job in that scene because 613 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 1: we were all like, how audacious for a teenage boy 614 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 1: to confront an adult about an addiction issue? Okay, but 615 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 1: also Sophia, I loved your comment about Lucas in the 616 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 1: hallway creepy. You know, you guys, this is this is 617 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: a moment where I wish we could talk to Billy 618 00:35:56,120 --> 00:36:00,800 Speaker 1: Digs in there. We're blocking again, you got is okay, 619 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: So what we're referencing is when when Barbara as Dab 620 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 1: is in the kitchen and she takes the bottle of 621 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: painkillers out of like a you know, a kitchen cupboard 622 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: and takes one the cabinets. Well, yes, but you know why. 623 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, but you know, it moves from her 624 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: around her face, and you see Lucas peering around the 625 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,320 Speaker 1: kitchen cabinets like he's in some c I a break in, 626 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,839 Speaker 1: leaning on. He's leaning against but but they made him 627 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: lean and then they literally had him just like pulled 628 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 1: backwards along the cabinets till he disappeared like Homer Simpson 629 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: disappearing into the bushes like on The Simpsons. And we 630 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 1: were all like, is that sometimes directors tell you to 631 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 1: do something that to Hillary's point, when you see on camera, 632 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 1: you just go, god, damn it. I shouldn't have listened. 633 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 1: I shouldn't back Oh god, yeah, that whole thing could 634 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:01,359 Speaker 1: have had better, tunny technicalities of all of it were 635 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 1: so strange, but no, yes, you're right like it. It was. 636 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,319 Speaker 1: It was a very ballsy move for Lucas to go 637 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: called about on it. She handled it well, she did. 638 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 1: I actually thought they were both so good in that 639 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: scene because you could see his discomfort as a young 640 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: person saying this, trying to relate it to his own 641 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 1: experience that felt a little scary, and her just to 642 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: be like, oh, just what I need an adolescent boy, 643 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 1: and her rage and the way she put him in 644 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 1: his place, telling him, you know, you're a guest in 645 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 1: my house. All of this it you saw it fall 646 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,760 Speaker 1: when she closed the door. Barbara immediately played the shame 647 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 1: and the fear about what she was doing. And I 648 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 1: just thought it was beautiful. Yeah, I mean it's both 649 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 1: of them said all the right things, you know. He 650 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 1: said what you're supposed to say when you see someone 651 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,280 Speaker 1: who you think might be in peril, and she also 652 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 1: said all the things that you say when a child 653 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 1: comes at you and you are a grown ass woman 654 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 1: trying to deal with your Yeah, that's right. Yeah. I 655 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 1: like scenes where both characters are in the right I 656 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: do too, And it and it interestingly, I think allowed 657 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:19,479 Speaker 1: us to see, you see who's in the right. Even 658 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 1: with Karen and Jules, they are both in the right. 659 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 1: So many people are both in the right. And it 660 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 1: allows Dan in this episode to feel even more evil 661 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 1: when Jules isn't coming down the aisle and Dan Scott 662 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 1: is the only person not facing the back of the church, 663 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:40,280 Speaker 1: He's watching Keith so happy, and then that end scene 664 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: where he knocks him off the wedding cake and he 665 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: and he sets his sights on deb it. It fueled 666 00:38:47,040 --> 00:39:02,799 Speaker 1: this darkness that was so so creepy. It was creepy. Well, 667 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 1: I would like to hear straight from the horse's mouth 668 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: about the relationship between Keith and Dan and Paul and Greg, 669 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: and so if any of you are interested in that, 670 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 1: we certainly have a super super special guest today, my 671 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 1: former early twenties crush and honestly still are crush, super 672 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: baby doll. I love the super babe ladies and gentlemen. 673 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 1: Mr Craig Jeffer, Oh my god, god, you look fantastic. 674 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Hi, oh man better now we miss you. 675 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 1: Look at this? What is this? What are you wearing? 676 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,839 Speaker 1: I love this jacket? What is this red jacket one 677 00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,360 Speaker 1: of my things that I designed. Okay, I'll let okay, 678 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 1: So if we have so many places to start, I 679 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:07,800 Speaker 1: don't even know where to start. Craig right, Hillary buttons. 680 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 1: It is one of my prize possessions. I'm gonna go 681 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 1: disappear right now and come back with my fur. I'm 682 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 1: going to be right back discuss. Craig is like the 683 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 1: most romantic man on the planet. I'll be right back. 684 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 1: She was just before you got on. She was like, 685 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 1: I've got to go up to the attic and get 686 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 1: this gift that Craig got me. It's the best ever. 687 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 1: Oh that is so cute. Oh my goodness. You're in 688 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,880 Speaker 1: Los Angeles. I'm in l A right now. Yeah, okay, 689 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,240 Speaker 1: so if you where are you again? So I'm based 690 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 1: in l A. But my my show that I'm doing 691 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 1: right now is shooting in Toronto. So yeah, yeah, thank you. 692 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 1: And so I'm here for another I don't know, ten 693 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 1: days and then I'll be home. Oh my god, please 694 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 1: come over. Can we all just get together. Are you 695 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 1: living in l A or you kind of back and 696 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,799 Speaker 1: forth between l A and someplace else where in Pennsylvania 697 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 1: From most of the last decade with my my family, 698 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 1: my mom and my brother passed away. I think I 699 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 1: saw you before that. But yeah, so I moved back 700 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 1: here and I got back a week before the pandemic, 701 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 1: which was really exciting. Whoa, And so things are just 702 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 1: kind of, you know, starting life back in l A again, 703 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,399 Speaker 1: everything starting back up again slowly. It feels like during 704 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,760 Speaker 1: the pandemic everybody got a hobby. Everybody started making bread 705 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:32,279 Speaker 1: and likes. But you talking about this amazing jacket that 706 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,839 Speaker 1: you made. You've been doing this forever. So before we 707 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 1: get into Keith Scott, we got to talk about Craig 708 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 1: Cheffer being a true jack of all trades and a 709 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 1: renaissance man. Renaissance man. Where where did making clothes that 710 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,920 Speaker 1: looked like they walked off a runway? Where does this 711 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 1: come from? You know, it really started with traveling when 712 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 1: I was when I was young, and uh, you know, 713 00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 1: like twenties and thirties, I would do a job and 714 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 1: I would you know, take that money and just go 715 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 1: somewhere and travel. I think the first one was India. Yeah, 716 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 1: I went to India. I was in India for a 717 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:16,360 Speaker 1: long time, for almost six months. And when I was 718 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 1: there was still like a cowboy town. I mean, it's 719 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 1: all it's all kind of changed. And I was like 720 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,239 Speaker 1: dirt streets. Uh. The town that I was staying was 721 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 1: called my Sore and at that time it was just 722 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 1: like like a total couch town. But anyway, they had 723 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,959 Speaker 1: all these you know shops with all these crazy materials, 724 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 1: you know, and I just started going in and I 725 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 1: was like, what do you what cost? Make me a 726 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 1: shut done a fifty? You know, like, let's do it, baby. 727 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 1: And I made like a hundred pieces of clothing and 728 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,719 Speaker 1: brought them all back. And then I I went to 729 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,839 Speaker 1: South America and I was in Peru and they had 730 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 1: all kinds of cool out pack of stuff and I started. 731 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,800 Speaker 1: I brought a bunch of blankets and made capes and 732 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,760 Speaker 1: then I would make stuff for friends and my daughter. 733 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,359 Speaker 1: And you know, that's just one of my hobbies. Did 734 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,919 Speaker 1: you learn? How do you sew? Also, you're you're doing 735 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 1: this by hand or your order? You design? I am not. 736 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:11,399 Speaker 1: I am not tackle, all right. I like to draw. 737 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,759 Speaker 1: That's about the only thing I can do like that. Yeah, 738 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 1: I'm not good at that, believe it or not. I 739 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 1: take it to this wonderful lady who it works in 740 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 1: a laundromat. You know, she Hem's clothes and all stuff. 741 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 1: But of course she was trained way way back and 742 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,840 Speaker 1: you know, to make dresses and clothes and all that stuff. 743 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, I just I had my own buttons pressed off, 744 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 1: these little crosses on them, and they're so cool. Like 745 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 1: I want to steal that jacket if you send me, 746 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,080 Speaker 1: If you send me like a shirt or your size, 747 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 1: I'll make you, guys all something Native American Western stuff. 748 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 1: That's what I like. Hillary, You've got your thing. But 749 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,560 Speaker 1: Craig Schaffer, let it be known, you gave me my 750 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:58,759 Speaker 1: first fur coat ever. I felt so entirely grown up. 751 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 1: I have moved eight thousand times in the last twenty years, 752 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 1: and this coat comes with me everywhere. And for those 753 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,440 Speaker 1: of you at home who can't see this, Hilary is 754 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 1: sporting a below the hip jacket with a nice tilted 755 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:23,240 Speaker 1: collar and buttons that are made out of brass. It's Craig. 756 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 1: These are the Craigs pressed buttons that he made. It's something. 757 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 1: It's not real silver, obviously, you know. It was the 758 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 1: loveliest gift ever. And you brought it after um we 759 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,920 Speaker 1: threw a birthday party for your daughter, Like, how is 760 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:44,799 Speaker 1: Willow Willows great. Yeah, we see each other all the time. 761 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 1: She actually is living up in a Girl Hills. You remember, 762 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 1: I lived at mountin the Lake for your house. Was 763 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:55,879 Speaker 1: so awesome. She's up around there right now, and yeah, 764 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 1: she's awesome. Men. You know, we have an amazing relationship 765 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 1: and it's just it's the best thing, you know, as 766 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 1: you know, as you guys know. Now, well, it's so weird, Craig, 767 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,279 Speaker 1: because you were like the dad on set. You and 768 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,080 Speaker 1: Moira had kids, you know, and then like Barbara started 769 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:16,440 Speaker 1: bringing her girls around, and it was it was wild 770 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,160 Speaker 1: because we looked at you guys as peers, but then 771 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 1: you had like children, you know, and so we didn't 772 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:26,840 Speaker 1: know who to play with. You were the kids. It 773 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:31,399 Speaker 1: was also so fun, you guys so nice to little 774 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,759 Speaker 1: She'd come in the trailer and you were getting your 775 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:37,359 Speaker 1: makeup on, and she was so cool. She was the 776 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:41,960 Speaker 1: coolest kid. It was also so cool for us because, 777 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 1: you know, to Hillary's point, like you guys felt like peers, 778 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,640 Speaker 1: but like the cool older siblings we'd all always wanted, 779 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,880 Speaker 1: but then you had these kids, who you know, Willow 780 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,480 Speaker 1: was this cool young woman. She was so creative and 781 00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 1: she wanted to hang out with us, and we looked 782 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,040 Speaker 1: up to us. Oh yeah, we felt like the Babysitters Club. 783 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:05,080 Speaker 1: We were like, it's happened, we are we are mentors. 784 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think all of you guys were 785 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,520 Speaker 1: there that night. One time. It took her down to 786 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,400 Speaker 1: somebody's apartment and you guys had a sheet up and 787 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,920 Speaker 1: played a movie with her while I went down at dinner. 788 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,759 Speaker 1: I remember taking her to the mall. Who went to 789 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:26,759 Speaker 1: the mall with her and me? It wasn't Maybe we 790 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,680 Speaker 1: did because we all go. I don't know, there's nothing 791 00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:34,480 Speaker 1: like strolling around the mall. Um, yes, please tell her 792 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,279 Speaker 1: for nothing. I think a huge part of why we 793 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,040 Speaker 1: why we took our roles as mentors in the show, 794 00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 1: because you know, we talked a lot on this show 795 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,120 Speaker 1: about how often we would fight for certain storylines or 796 00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:50,520 Speaker 1: you know, fight for representing young women. And having Willow 797 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:54,160 Speaker 1: and Barbara's girls around, it was something that really affected 798 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 1: us to hold us up to that standard of the 799 00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 1: responsibility that we felt. You know, I was so glad 800 00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,799 Speaker 1: that those girls were around. Yeah, they were so lucky. 801 00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,279 Speaker 1: That's inspiring, man. I got to leave something for the 802 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:09,840 Speaker 1: people coming. Yeah, you know, you said something that I wonder. 803 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,920 Speaker 1: I wonder how the fans at home are taking it. 804 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,000 Speaker 1: You know, Oh, you guys used to watch my daughter 805 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:19,000 Speaker 1: when I go to dinner with Paul, Like, yeah, is it? 806 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:23,120 Speaker 1: Is it crazy? Uh? For fans? Have you experienced that? 807 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,000 Speaker 1: It's wild for them to know that? You know, in 808 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,840 Speaker 1: real life, Craig and Paul adored each other, whereas on 809 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 1: screen Dan and Keith or like the clashing of the 810 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,560 Speaker 1: rams all the time. I know, it is really funny, 811 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:39,680 Speaker 1: isn't it. Yeah, you can't quite a picture that, you know. 812 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,600 Speaker 1: He shot me and then we went out to dinner. 813 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,640 Speaker 1: You guys had worked together before. You did a movie 814 00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:53,399 Speaker 1: in Actually, actually I saw it for the first time. 815 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,279 Speaker 1: Somebody made me see it. First of all, I didn't 816 00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,000 Speaker 1: even know it was on TV anywhere. But in no 817 00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:09,480 Speaker 1: way is called oh my god, Berserker. Berserker. Yeah. It 818 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,920 Speaker 1: was this really bad B movie we made in South Africa, 819 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:17,240 Speaker 1: like in nine or something like that, and we played 820 00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,759 Speaker 1: these brothers and they had some like forty pounds of 821 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 1: you know, you played brothers in that too, You played 822 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 1: brothers and that only was the evil God. Had you 823 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,920 Speaker 1: worked with any of our other castmates before? On One 824 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 1: Tree Hill let's see m Berry or Moira. No, I 825 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 1: don't think so. What was so listen some of the 826 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:53,080 Speaker 1: people actually Shirley, right, yeah, Gary and I did a 827 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:59,239 Speaker 1: very uh at the time Darren movie. It was were 828 00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,400 Speaker 1: naked for like a third of the movie. It's about 829 00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:07,480 Speaker 1: tantric sense. Okay, wow, it's very progressive for the time, 830 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:11,480 Speaker 1: a tarent stamp. Shirley and I uh were in that movie. 831 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,439 Speaker 1: It was actually, I think a pretty good movie. Yeah, 832 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna watch it now. Craig, you for tonight have 833 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:24,480 Speaker 1: to what are you talking about? You got it? I 834 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,680 Speaker 1: think one of our burning questions and Joy, I'm gonna 835 00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:30,279 Speaker 1: ask it for you, Craig, did you know that Joy 836 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:31,920 Speaker 1: was in love with you? When we all live in 837 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:40,520 Speaker 1: Long Come back next week from part two to find out. 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