Speaker 1: Here's what I love about Marcus Houston. He's been able
Speaker 1: to take a significant fashion l in every single era. WHOA,
Speaker 1: that's true what you're about to bring up. I'm about
Speaker 1: to bring up the clear suit. I know what you're
Speaker 1: about to bring up, obvious sigendary pre COVID. I five
Speaker 1: before the towers fell. Like me, I think we still
Speaker 1: had the tower. I think he was still dating Beyonce
Speaker 1: when he did that. He was like people never bring yet.
Speaker 2: I think he was in a clear suit smashing Beyonce.
Speaker 1: So you know, I can't believe she let up.
Speaker 3: I like to think that Marcus's never actually smashed Beyonce,
Speaker 3: and it makes me feel better.
Speaker 1: I also would like to he is a queen, and
Speaker 1: I'd like to know that she did not do that.
Speaker 1: Get your clear hands off of me.
Speaker 2: Listen, I play chess. Sometimes queens make bad moves.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: You got rethink yourself. Baby, girls are racist.
Speaker 5: The layers, the money, our stuff.
Speaker 1: I can't tell me. Give me that doggy button and
Speaker 1: big old legs. Welcome back to another episode of My
Speaker 1: Mama Doon me the.
Speaker 2: Fine gast, But we dive deep, deep into the pockets
Speaker 2: of black conspiracy theories.
Speaker 1: And we work to prove that the tea in T
Speaker 1: Pain does not in fact stand for tallahassee, it stands
Speaker 1: for Trautman, as in his real father, Roger Troutman of
Speaker 1: Staff and Roger a pioneer of the vocoder a k A.
Speaker 1: The fucking voice thing that T. Paint does. He is
Speaker 1: in fact a nepo. Baby. It was not on him,
Speaker 1: It was in him the whole time. Y'all wake up
Speaker 1: and David Boren and.
Speaker 2: I'm Langston Kerman, and I'm stunned at this revelation. You're
Speaker 2: saying that he had a silver auto tuner in his
Speaker 2: mouth when he was born.
Speaker 1: He was born with it in his mouth. You thought
Speaker 1: he invented that shit. Come on, baby, he.
Speaker 2: And he cried, beautiful, just that was.
Speaker 1: That was He grew up to the sounds of so rough,
Speaker 1: so tough, in the city of good old Watts.
Speaker 2: If it's true, devastating, truly, we've all been rooting for T.
Speaker 1: Paint.
Speaker 2: I think in part because of we thought he got
Speaker 2: it up for you know what I mean, he was
Speaker 2: doing it from the ground up.
Speaker 1: He did like he got it out the mud. I
Speaker 1: was like rapper turned singer.
Speaker 2: Like, I get it, Come on, man, but no pains
Speaker 2: out here, just just you didn't even hear them.
Speaker 1: You didn't even hear the whole conspiracy theory. Roger Troutman
Speaker 1: was killed by Larry Troutman, who was also percussions in
Speaker 1: the Zap band. I think it was a beef over
Speaker 1: t Paine's mom and the illegitimate son whoa to hot
Speaker 1: right now? I'm too hot, too hot, I'm too hot
Speaker 1: right now, motherfucking boys. Nothing about that.
Speaker 2: That's this is heavy dog. I don't even I think
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Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, We're not a perfect show. There are high
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Speaker 1: You know, not Charlie Brown.
Speaker 2: But unfortunately, due to some technical difficulties, this episode has
Speaker 2: sort of we we we've had some hijinks. We lost
Speaker 2: the first little segment of the show, and we assure you,
Speaker 2: dear listener, that it was hilarious, the really funny shit
Speaker 2: inside of this motherfucker.
Speaker 1: You know, you would have loved it. Remember the first
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Speaker 2: Now, it's gone. There's nothing we can do about it.
Speaker 2: It's it's lost in the ether, lost in the sands
Speaker 2: of time. But here's the good news. Our guest is
Speaker 2: a phenomenal talent, a hilarious person, a man who you
Speaker 2: know best from from his podcast one and We, but
Speaker 2: you probably know him best from from being one of
Speaker 2: the co hosts of the long running show, maybe the
Speaker 2: longest running show.
Speaker 1: And it's like that in General Hospital.
Speaker 2: I think I don't think I dare to say there's
Speaker 2: nothing longer. It's it's that show General Hospital, The Simpsons
Speaker 2: and c Span I think that the those four are
Speaker 2: are the sort of Mount Rushmore of long running shows.
Speaker 2: But he's one of the co hosts of Ridiculousness. He's
Speaker 2: a hilarious man, a dear friend, and and we're we're
Speaker 2: we're gonna jump straight to the research section of this episode.
Speaker 2: So don't be thrown off by the sort of weird
Speaker 2: cutting and pasting if you if it would were.
Speaker 1: Because you know what, that's just show business. And honestly,
Speaker 1: you're lucky to have us. So what are you gonna do?
Speaker 2: What the we could be anywhere right now?
Speaker 1: Bro? You don't think I could have been working for
Speaker 1: fucking all State Life right now. I could have been
Speaker 1: a term life God, I could have had equity. I'm
Speaker 1: here talking to you losers because of art.
Speaker 2: I would be putting a tire in some water and
Speaker 2: telling you where the hole is right now.
Speaker 1: Come on, you don't think my man would have been
Speaker 1: a big o' savant. Quit playing with me.
Speaker 2: But our guest, he's hilarious. Give it up for stel
Speaker 2: Low brim everybody steel.
Speaker 1: Amazing. You came to a.
Speaker 2: Steel with a conspiracy that that I would argue also
Speaker 2: is gonna be up for some debate as falls into reality,
Speaker 2: not by me. Hey, I'm not pushing back, baby, I'm good.
Speaker 1: I'm good.
Speaker 2: We're all good over here. I'm not pushing back. But
Speaker 2: I dare say you are going to upset certain gentlemen
Speaker 2: in our community. You said, my mama told me never
Speaker 2: trust a black man without a mustache or a white
Speaker 2: man with one.
Speaker 1: They're both pedophiles. Steel O.
Speaker 2: I did a bunch of research on your conspiracy that
Speaker 2: I would love to unpack with you. Now I think
Speaker 2: I think you're it's it's some pretty promising research. It
Speaker 2: was far more information than I expected to be able
Speaker 2: to find. I thought that this was just be like speculation,
Speaker 2: but now there seems to be some real research behind
Speaker 2: this motherfucker. So what's especially interesting is that apparently the
Speaker 2: associations of mustaches and pedophiles is much more contemporary than
Speaker 2: we actually realize. I thought this was like something that
Speaker 2: dated back millennia, and shit.
Speaker 1: I thought it was like the forties fifties.
Speaker 2: See, I even that seems like a thing. But apparently
Speaker 2: the August of two thousand and three.
Speaker 1: Is I started the rumor started this three for sure.
Speaker 1: And you know what's funny.
Speaker 2: The article said steel brim was walking around his high
Speaker 2: school calling niggas pedophiles when they had no facial hair.
Speaker 1: You know, those people did turn out to be pedophiles.
Speaker 1: That's there and that's and that's where that's see research,
Speaker 1: you gotta do your I just spoke it into them
Speaker 1: and now you're right. Now, I got to explore this.
Speaker 1: Don't put that on yourself. Don't put that right? You're right.
Speaker 2: Why is Stelo saying this every day? Maybe I gotta
Speaker 2: unpack this. I will say that. So August of two
Speaker 2: thousand and three is sort of like its first appearance
Speaker 2: in sort of like the the public lexicon, right the
Speaker 2: innerne they said. They said, it first appears apparently Urban
Speaker 2: Urban Dictionary. I'm a being man, I love a sweet being.
Speaker 1: Uh, they said.
Speaker 2: The definition on Urban Dictionary first stat this was their
Speaker 2: first definition of it was a person who is genetically
Speaker 2: predispositioned to have upper lip hair, usually accompanied by aviator sunglasses,
Speaker 2: police issue gloves, and a pedophilia like stare down.
Speaker 1: That's him.
Speaker 6: Just when you're talking about like after that mass a guy.
Speaker 2: I don't need to see no other pictures.
Speaker 1: I know I have a few questions. Even as far
Speaker 1: as his research, goes yay. One was urbandctionary dot com invented?
Speaker 1: Oh my boy did that? My boy did that in
Speaker 1: science class? I think that's what I'm saying. So it
Speaker 1: was like if it was because if this was when
Speaker 1: the site was new, there had to be a term
Speaker 1: of it catching up to previous pop culture ideas where
Speaker 1: they were filling in the blank. It had been prevalent
Speaker 1: for years. That's just when they put.
Speaker 2: It on that this is some ship that came out
Speaker 2: in eighty six, But we didn't get hipped to it
Speaker 2: till two thousand and three.
Speaker 1: That's because the because the website came up in Lato too,
Speaker 1: they were still just back feeling, all right, what urban
Speaker 1: slang do we need to put on there?
Speaker 3: Because urban Nicknare's ninety nine myself?
Speaker 1: Guys, did you just say the will endium?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how I measured time is myself. I'm I'm
Speaker 2: twenty three years old past the millennium.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? You have that album? You
Speaker 1: had that album? Oh? I had that? Of course. I
Speaker 1: had that album that was Friends and that was his
Speaker 1: favorite album.
Speaker 2: Come on, man, that was.
Speaker 1: You like that album better than Big Willie Style? It
Speaker 1: wasn't talking we're talking.
Speaker 2: No, it wasn't about better or worse. It was about
Speaker 2: inspiration and that nigga was inspiring me in ninety nine.
Speaker 2: There was nobody else that could inspire me more.
Speaker 1: Than will A great year.
Speaker 2: He was, he was killing it in ninety nine.
Speaker 1: Man, was that meant? Was that when Miami came out?
Speaker 1: Or was that before?
Speaker 2: That's post Miami Miami?
Speaker 1: I think it was Willennium, Yeah, what's well?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I give me a second. He had that song,
Speaker 2: and I think it was with Cisco. I want to
Speaker 2: say he had it was No, it was with k
Speaker 2: C and he had that song.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, well wow Wow West was the first single
Speaker 1: release for Willennio. Yeah, song was bad.
Speaker 3: Then he had Will two K, which is crazy, and
Speaker 3: then he had Freaking It come out Freaking What was
Speaker 3: on that?
Speaker 2: I don't even remember freaking it? But come on, my
Speaker 2: boy was My boy was being sexy for the last time?
Speaker 1: Come on, No, he was. He was sexy on Big
Speaker 1: Willie Style. I don't know why I'm going so hard
Speaker 1: for Big Willy Style. That was a great record. What
Speaker 1: you mean? It was clearly written by Nash Well certain
Speaker 1: certain songs, for sure, there were if we can snicker
Speaker 1: all night on my Jolly Ranch. Well Smith didn't write that.
Speaker 2: No, I didn't write that down.
Speaker 1: He liked it, though, I take him a little longer,
Speaker 1: but he got that. He just had to sit in
Speaker 1: there with shoot on a cigar and listen to the beat.
Speaker 2: So I will say it sounds like you boys are
Speaker 2: not in tune with the possibility of this two thousand
Speaker 2: and three start date. But I will say that additionally,
Speaker 2: what they plane is that in two thousand and six
Speaker 2: Adam Morrison. Y'all remember Adam Morrison, that big motherfucker from
Speaker 2: Gonzaga with the mustache apparently is the thing that pushed
Speaker 2: it over the top.
Speaker 1: Return of the mat.
Speaker 2: No, that's Mark Morrison, remember this duel?
Speaker 1: Yeah? High all the times too, right, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I think he was a super early pick in the
Speaker 2: NBA and a super regrettable choice for former threeas he
Speaker 2: went number three and then did not do anything for
Speaker 2: anybody for a long time.
Speaker 1: He would thrive in the NBA today, just at that time,
Speaker 1: you know, he was he was.
Speaker 2: In an era where biggs needed to be bigs and
Speaker 2: and he ain't know how to do that, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean? Yeah, you had to be a
Speaker 1: you have to be kind of an animal.
Speaker 2: But Adam Morrison apparently was getting made fun of so
Speaker 2: often despite being the the leading scorer in the in
Speaker 2: the NCAA that year, he was being made from him,
Speaker 2: specifically for his mustache, so often that literally crowds were
Speaker 2: chanting amber alert at him while he was playing in games,
Speaker 2: and that subsequently increased the Google searches that ultimately became
Speaker 2: the popularity of the pedo stash.
Speaker 3: I remember being at that game, a young umbrella that started.
Speaker 2: Now the question is any regrets because you were yelling
Speaker 2: at a boy he was a child.
Speaker 1: I think Adam Morrison was like twenty when he graduated.
Speaker 2: Sure he was.
Speaker 1: He wasn't all four years and he Yeah, it wasn't
Speaker 1: a one and done guy. I know that. I waited
Speaker 1: until he became nineteen. Ye things. I was never at
Speaker 1: a child with cat calling. That's really all you can do. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you just gotta wait, wait till they're nineteen.
Speaker 2: Speaking of wild hair choices, can we can we just
Speaker 2: take a moment for for recent Marcus Houston hares.
Speaker 1: Those braids, those fake fake braids, braids. He he was.
Speaker 2: In a two B program where he had arguably something
Speaker 2: far worse than Shamar Moore. That possible, Tyler bro. You
Speaker 2: gotta take a look and just just take a gander.
Speaker 2: We look at it now and make a choice.
Speaker 1: He looked nothing like Rogers.
Speaker 2: That's not the Roger I know.
Speaker 1: I think he got the braids the leading off the internet.
Speaker 1: I cannot find them.
Speaker 2: It was a very exciting day on Twitter a few
Speaker 2: days ago. Now, granted I don't have a Twitter anymore,
Speaker 2: but I do have Burner accounts, and yeah, you got
Speaker 2: to explore out here. But the point is, oh, this
Speaker 2: goes on, right, So the two thousand and seven, the
Speaker 2: pedo stash apparently gets this giant influx on Google. It's
Speaker 2: it's suddenly like become this this Google hot search all
Speaker 2: the way up to fifty one out of one hundred
Speaker 2: in its scale. And then in twenty ten it becomes
Speaker 2: crazy popular again because Justin Bieber grosses first mustache and
Speaker 2: everybody starts calling him a pedophile.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it really seems like just famous people growing mustaches,
Speaker 2: and we're like that niggas a betophile.
Speaker 1: That was a right there. I mean famous people and mustache.
Speaker 1: I think there just wasn't a term for it. I
Speaker 1: think it was a thing we all knew. It's like
Speaker 1: Bomo Bomo's been around for everybody. We just didn't put
Speaker 1: a word on it. To it right then you got it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, walk us through all of your feelings.
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, he didn't need desires. They couldn't.
Speaker 1: It kept me straight backs.
Speaker 6: Oh they're so thick and so high.
Speaker 1: It's like a box, a box.
Speaker 2: They sit up tall. Baby, those ain't those ain't resting.
Speaker 1: Also, his beard is fake as well, right.
Speaker 2: I think everything is fake in that picture.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's the budget right on the prest screen story
Speaker 3: by Chris stokeb hear.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a bad combination.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Mark. Yeah, in the news a lot.
Speaker 2: Lately, Marcus Neston's been acting up a lot later.
Speaker 1: Just notorious for making poor decisions. Yeah yeah, like physically.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he keeps doing it to himself and in that
Speaker 2: way I respect it. It's like, yeah, I mean where
Speaker 2: you are and I repeating who you are? And he
Speaker 2: did I will say the immature I m X.
Speaker 1: Era well magic, I mean they both had hits, That's
Speaker 1: what I am. Was it Stay the Night? Was that
Speaker 1: my first time?
Speaker 2: Yeah, my first time?
Speaker 1: That was the iMX Climbing out the window. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: did you want to stay the night? Though? Was that not? It?
Speaker 1: Just know he gave it so, he gave it that song.
Speaker 3: He said, if you're gonna do it, just make sure
Speaker 3: you're strapped twice, which is the craziest.
Speaker 1: Him though. I mean, he's already he's already used to
Speaker 1: wear a double plastic.
Speaker 2: He's like, he's like Lizen as a man who wears
Speaker 2: too much plastic. You wanted to be thick, You need
Speaker 2: that thick coating of plastic, please double strap.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So so apparently, and this article that I read did
Speaker 2: a lot of research on this. Apparently if you look
Speaker 2: at the mug shots of contemporary pedophiles, right, the contemporary list.
Speaker 2: I don't either, It's not my taste, but I do
Speaker 2: report it. But the the contemporary collection of mug shots
Speaker 2: does not, in fact reflect a bunch of people with
Speaker 2: the same mustache. That is not necessarily a trend.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it probably hip to it now.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, I like that.
Speaker 1: It's like this whole school should have been in the
Speaker 1: room type thing. Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Nobody's wearing trench coats to shoot a school anymore.
Speaker 1: No, that's what I'm saying. That's why the white guys
Speaker 1: mustaches now are so cheeky about it because they know
Speaker 1: it's jumped the shark if you wear the.
Speaker 2: If you go to shoot up a school, you wearing
Speaker 2: an Adidas track suit, So you really surprise people with
Speaker 2: whatever your bullshit is.
Speaker 1: Mobility America. I love this country.
Speaker 2: But one of the things that was especially interesting right
Speaker 2: because they're saying there's no direct correlation for right now.
Speaker 2: But however, there was this dude, Tom O'Carroll who wrote
Speaker 2: a book in nineteen eighty a book called and I'm
Speaker 2: not bullshitting this, a book called Pedophilia the Radical Case,
Speaker 2: in which he apparently dedicates a lot of his literature
Speaker 2: to making a case for adults and children being able
Speaker 2: to have relationships. All right, this is that's the core
Speaker 2: of the book, is him being like, yeah, no, it's
Speaker 2: I want to know.
Speaker 1: I want to know every unit that went out. Every
Speaker 1: the government has a list of exactly what units and
Speaker 1: what add just is they were sold to.
Speaker 3: I hope he is just an agent. I hope he's
Speaker 3: just a better agent. A fake book.
Speaker 1: And he was like this, get out, whoever is it?
Speaker 2: Well know, I hate to break it to you, boys,
Speaker 2: but but actually he was eventually arrested for you guessed it, pedophilia,
Speaker 2: And when he was arrested, his mugshot became sort of
Speaker 2: like the most quittessential pedophilia mustache man picture in history
Speaker 2: that like he he could not look more like what
Speaker 2: we associate with a pedophile. This is nineteen big old,
Speaker 2: thick mustache, long haired, dead eyed stare like, it's all
Speaker 2: the shit that that you would say is a pedophile.
Speaker 2: And then when you combine this with people like Jeffrey Dahmer,
Speaker 2: like Edmund Kemper, like Ted Bundy, like John Waye Gacy,
Speaker 2: who all also had thick mustaches, it starts to feel,
Speaker 2: in fact, like a trend.
Speaker 1: I've never problem more sure of myself. That's good. That's good.
Speaker 1: I like that. Great. Great. That's what we do on
Speaker 1: this podcast. We're really trying to hear to uplift fellow
Speaker 1: black men. That's what the wall and I got here. Brilliant. No, No,
Speaker 1: you thought you thought you were a joke. You came
Speaker 1: over here, you're Jackson Pollock. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Man. Well, one of the things, one of the things
Speaker 2: that they then use as a counter argument inside of
Speaker 2: this article is that they say that all of those
Speaker 2: men that I just listed rose to their creepy prominence
Speaker 2: between nineteen seventy three and nineteen ninety one, when mustaches
Speaker 2: were most in style, and so subsequently they would say
Speaker 2: that this is more of a cultural trend rather than
Speaker 2: a pedophilic trend.
Speaker 1: Boo, I thought we were going something. I'm just presenting information.
Speaker 1: I listen. I haven't.
Speaker 2: I haven't put staked in you know in the I
Speaker 2: love that.
Speaker 1: If nothing else, the research has been mostly about white men.
Speaker 3: I haven't covered at all our black men without mustaches.
Speaker 3: And that's fair, I get it. I think there's not
Speaker 3: as much research as one I agree with you is
Speaker 3: it is it up to us to do the researcher
Speaker 3: part of the community, you know, black people, and if
Speaker 3: you spot any out there, I'm not asking you to
Speaker 3: deliberately go out there and look for something. I'm saying
Speaker 3: if you're on streets and you're walking around and you
Speaker 3: see somebody without a mustache, cob of beliefs.
Speaker 2: And we got to get I think we got to
Speaker 2: push past this fear of snitching in relation to certain things.
Speaker 2: Look if it's something, if you're participating in crime and
Speaker 2: then a crime happens in the U tell one of motherfuckers.
Speaker 2: That's snitching. That's that's snitching, And you got to unpack
Speaker 2: why you did that and how that affects you, however.
Speaker 1: As if you were in it together.
Speaker 3: And yeah, yeah, yeah, that's probably if you cut my
Speaker 3: mustache and you didn't tell me on the way, yea amen.
Speaker 1: Look, yeah, if you cut my mustache, do I not bleed?
Speaker 2: But I will say that this issue right of whether
Speaker 2: or not this would be snitching. To tell on a
Speaker 2: motherfucker on the street because they look creepy, feels like
Speaker 2: we need to expand beyond that. We need to say no,
Speaker 2: that is objectively dangerous for our youth, for for our
Speaker 2: most vulnerable. We got to tell somebody.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's Jerry's final thought.
Speaker 2: Well, what's fascinating and we need to take one too, right, Damn,
Speaker 2: Jerry's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: That's one of my favorite guests of all time. Really, man,
Speaker 1: I thought he was. He's one of those ones I
Speaker 1: never thought he was going. No.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't imagine. Jerry Springer can die as much
Speaker 2: as just fade into too quiet.
Speaker 1: We had Larry King as well, two white men who
Speaker 1: I never thought would go.
Speaker 3: Larry King even talked on the show he was gonna
Speaker 3: freeze himself, and I respected that.
Speaker 2: I believe he didn't get to it obviously, did Larry
Speaker 2: King like wear suspenders and ship like fol Larry.
Speaker 3: King came on man being misogynistic. Oh stuff that you
Speaker 3: were like, I don't make.
Speaker 2: When somebody, somebody bad shares their true beliefs and you're.
Speaker 7: Like, oh, oh yeah, damn, You've had a lot of
Speaker 7: beautiful guests.
Speaker 2: I will say, We're gonna take one more break, but
Speaker 2: when we come back, I do, in fact have a
Speaker 2: little bit of research on the the alternative side of this,
Speaker 2: on the black men with no facial hair that I
Speaker 2: want to hear from. You bring that up, all right,
Speaker 2: So we'll be back with more stilo, bring and more.
Speaker 1: My mama told me, why are welcome back to My
Speaker 1: mama told me we are here with steel O Brim.
Speaker 1: I don't have my pad, but I still have my mouth,
Speaker 1: and I'm a thousand voices David for thanks to Kerman
Speaker 1: steel O Brim. We are discussing the mustache, the mustachioed
Speaker 1: white man, and the non facial haired black man in
Speaker 1: terms of pedophilia yea or general creepy creep. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: feel like it's overall creeping. I think there's my little
Speaker 1: murders as well. It's not just right, that's I think
Speaker 1: that's that's that's where we should have started. It's like,
Speaker 1: as you're a weirdo responsibility.
Speaker 2: That's fine, that's fine, that's fine, And maybe that's where
Speaker 2: where we need to to sort of embrace our non
Speaker 2: facial haired brothers. Is like, for a while they've been
Speaker 2: called pedophiles, and we don't think you're a pedophile necessarily,
Speaker 2: we just think there's something wrong with you.
Speaker 1: It just makes me sad if this doesn't work as
Speaker 1: good as fine. Yeah, that's all it is.
Speaker 2: I don't like looking at you, but that doesn't mean
Speaker 2: you like looking at kids.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, we've all had ugly friends, but but
Speaker 1: do you?
Speaker 2: And that's the real question, the real question. So, in
Speaker 2: relations specifically to the black men, one of the things
Speaker 2: that that I read about or like an argument an
Speaker 2: article argued is that black men largely grow mustaches as
Speaker 2: a way to affirm their masculinity. That in society where
Speaker 2: we are so often living around people attempting to steal control,
Speaker 2: black men's position as as men in a in a world.
Speaker 2: This is like an effort to create control for ourselves
Speaker 2: by growing facial hair, uh and improving our masculinity.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know what it is, because that could
Speaker 1: be that's the strong real talk. Man. It's just like
Speaker 1: it's better way.
Speaker 3: Because the black people don't have facial hair. Also either
Speaker 3: work in finance politics. Don't trust either one of them
Speaker 3: niggas either way, that's a good points.
Speaker 1: Never have facial hair.
Speaker 2: And it means they're playing white guy rules when you
Speaker 2: play in those spaces, which means that they are willing
Speaker 2: to cut their facial hair largely because they're like I
Speaker 2: need to fit into the rules of some ship that
Speaker 2: never belonged to me in the first place.
Speaker 1: Man, let's go there, brother. Has Obama ever has also
Speaker 1: shout out to Mayo. Hey, you know what, though, you
Speaker 1: know what those shout out to mayor Mayor Web in Denver.
Speaker 1: He's black. He always kept a mustache on him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, tomorrow, Oh ship, I'm on here, Okay, I.
Speaker 1: Was in there two weeks ago to three weeks ago.
Speaker 1: Oh hell yeah, yeah, that's the best. But yeah, so
Speaker 1: shout out to Mayor web Denver. Also, though, Has Obama,
Speaker 1: do you have any pictures of Obama with the beard.
Speaker 3: I think he's had a mustache before, right, he had
Speaker 3: a mustache when he was like when he was super young,
Speaker 3: them cigarette pictures and shitt he'd be cool mustache.
Speaker 2: And then I think maybe right after presidency he might
Speaker 2: have grown a little bit of facial hair, but it's
Speaker 2: never been anything substantial.
Speaker 1: I can't find them, no me either. I saw a photos.
Speaker 1: But you know who kept the beer?
Speaker 2: Mommy killed Patrick? That man kept a beard and KiB.
Speaker 1: What about Colin Powell?
Speaker 2: I'll call you know, Colin Bow didn't grown facial hair.
Speaker 1: I don't even know.
Speaker 2: I think Colin Powell had them burned off, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean? The the whatever girls there.
Speaker 1: That's like a criminal with fingerprints. He was like, I
Speaker 1: want no traces the man.
Speaker 2: The man named himself after misspelled colonel, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, Like he's he's committed to this ship.
Speaker 3: I really can't buy and Block with a mustache, but
Speaker 3: I trust Block somehow, trust Rock.
Speaker 2: He's made it to the exceptional list.
Speaker 1: As much as I trust a president exactly exactly. So
Speaker 1: let's start with that. Like it's not like, damn, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: One of the things that they also point out is
Speaker 2: that in the early nineteen hundreds, many black men wore
Speaker 2: mustaches as a sign of defiance against white supremacy. That
Speaker 2: much in the way that we're talking about where white
Speaker 2: people are telling you clean shaven is the way to be,
Speaker 2: that's professional, that's the way a man is supposed to look.
Speaker 2: Black people start growing their facial hair to be like,
Speaker 2: fuck you niggas, do how we want to do over here.
Speaker 2: And they said that same kind of resurgence happened in
Speaker 2: the nineteen seventies because of the Black Power movement that
Speaker 2: like a bunch of you know, like the like the
Speaker 2: Black Panthers and shit would grow their facial hair again
Speaker 2: to assert their dominance and defiance against against the power.
Speaker 3: Because a nigga with al fac has definitely giving him secrets. Yeah,
Speaker 3: as many secrets as he has. The only think he
Speaker 3: has that many.
Speaker 1: He shut the fun up. Just I just want.
Speaker 2: I just want to keep away.
Speaker 1: A strong black man.
Speaker 3: I don't think could gros if I can see you
Speaker 3: deliberately trying and veains popping out, but you trying to
Speaker 3: make your.
Speaker 1: I'm okay with that. And you know what, Eldridge clever
Speaker 1: had enough for the both of them. Yeah, counce right.
Speaker 1: I think so Clever had a strong like one of
Speaker 1: those thick thick cheese. Yeah it was.
Speaker 2: That was a real plus one go tee for Yeah,
Speaker 2: he added some some folks to that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah. He rocked the shadow here and there. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: here he had the shadow a couple of time.
Speaker 3: I'll give it to the shadow scares me because it
Speaker 3: says now that he did cut his facial hair.
Speaker 1: But that was what year was this? It was before
Speaker 1: three obviously, you know I started this.
Speaker 2: This is before Jesus.
Speaker 1: We don't know what that was.
Speaker 2: This is an old testament.
Speaker 1: This is pre Willennium.
Speaker 2: So so the last thing that I'll point out is
Speaker 2: that they also point out that mustaches apparently are not
Speaker 2: often associated with attracting women. That like, their research shows
Speaker 2: that women are very rarely Actually.
Speaker 1: For yourself, you're not interviewing black women.
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I'm just telling you what the
Speaker 2: thing said. But they basically said they don't find that
Speaker 2: that's something. Women are more neutral on the mustache. They are, however,
Speaker 2: you more as a sort of like weapon against men,
Speaker 2: that this is sort of like a way of asserting
Speaker 2: your dominance, munch like a buck growing its warns real big.
Speaker 1: Literally been doing that for the last hour, and I
Speaker 1: stand on that. You know, mustache pussies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just men trying to big dog each other
Speaker 2: with beards and mustaches and ship I agree.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But beers are different, you know, I'm just I'm
Speaker 3: just beers. Beers are a whole community. I respect you, know,
Speaker 3: of all, all all kinds, all colors, beards.
Speaker 1: When it goes, I don't like it when it gets
Speaker 1: too crazy, like I need you to be a beard guy.
Speaker 3: I know how many Asian men I've met with beards
Speaker 3: I've been.
Speaker 2: They don't grow good beards.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go so far as to say that
Speaker 2: that's not offensive because I've heard it. I know enough Asian.
Speaker 1: You hear one of your barbershop. No, no, I I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm a hate field man, but I'm not saying this
Speaker 2: out of out of hate. I I truly think their
Speaker 2: their hair tends to be whisper and it just doesn't
Speaker 2: beard up like a full beard as well as as
Speaker 2: they would like often.
Speaker 1: And they're taking our jobs, all right? Would you like like?
Speaker 1: I like them? I just don't want one date my sister. Now,
Speaker 1: I will throw in something random, go crazy.
Speaker 3: How do you feel about Asian man getting dreadlocks A lots?
Speaker 3: Have you seen this? This is and the process that
Speaker 3: it takes to to accomplish. How do you or even
Speaker 3: not even just that, also just the sponge work. Have
Speaker 3: you seen them get the box with the sponge work.
Speaker 1: I have seen that they're doing crazy things in Tokyo.
Speaker 1: I feel better about it than I feel about white
Speaker 1: guys doing it. And that's about is good of anything
Speaker 1: I have to say about it. I don't even know
Speaker 1: if I've seen white guys do it.
Speaker 3: Guys with dreads, Yeah, but that's I don't trust that.
Speaker 3: That's the ridiculous is before I've already stood on that.
Speaker 3: I don't know white guys with dreads. It's not my thing.
Speaker 1: Have y'all seen the video? There's nobody's thing, nobody, not
Speaker 1: even it's not even their thing. Truly, they always regret it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they never stay that way forever.
Speaker 1: They know it's always a face.
Speaker 3: The ones in Venice are they're locked, yeah, until their
Speaker 3: dad calls them back to work at the law firm.
Speaker 1: Like they're on. They're on rich white guy rum.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they they back out eventually. I will say that that.
Speaker 2: I don't know if y'all remember this, if y'all ever
Speaker 2: seen the video of them white lobe white boys doing
Speaker 2: wave checks where they'll like have one like do rags
Speaker 2: like and be like wave check pay check and then
Speaker 2: like pull their ship off and they'll have like crazy
Speaker 2: white boy waves for three minutes until somebody can do
Speaker 2: this and then suddenly it all goes away. But like,
Speaker 2: the white white kids are now taking over that space
Speaker 2: and it makes me terribly uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: Oh, I already ruined sneakers. What else are you gonna
Speaker 1: take from us?
Speaker 6: I love a good white wave check and the funni
Speaker 6: Oh what is this? It's always the white guys. You're like, Yo,
Speaker 6: this kid's adorable. What they don't wake up right now?
Speaker 1: This is great? Yeah, that's just a crazy look. They'll
Speaker 1: be he'll be. They'll be the the gen Zers version
Speaker 1: of black face once we show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the best nigga was doing wave jup videos in
Speaker 3: twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1: You gotta go fires, Are are they no? Murray's Murray's No.
Speaker 2: I think they're using like gorilla glue. I don't know
Speaker 2: that white people's hair just does that with some murders.
Speaker 1: This is terrible. They invest that is the best in
Speaker 1: the world, though that's really is thought. Who would have
Speaker 1: thought where that career was going to take him.
Speaker 3: Do you think owned a big percentage of this or
Speaker 3: do you think it's just like, let's use shot moss.
Speaker 1: I think not as much as we want him to. Really,
Speaker 1: I would love it. I would love it to be
Speaker 1: proprietary and that he invented it. Well, I know, let's
Speaker 1: be honest, we know he didn't invent it.
Speaker 2: We know this nigga didn't sit down and can cock anything,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: He's not the.
Speaker 2: Virgil of do rags. He is is very much a
Speaker 2: man just making choices. But I do think I have
Speaker 2: hope that that he owns a bigger percentage than we think.
Speaker 1: I think. I want to believe this is going to
Speaker 1: keep him. I want to think he's a majority O.
Speaker 1: I think so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's like fifty one percent of that percent.
Speaker 1: But I would say they're still moving units. I was
Speaker 1: saying fifteen, but yeah, they're moving units. Fuck yeah, damn,
Speaker 1: it's that fifty one man, that's a lot. That's something
Speaker 1: that would have had to have been his idea or
Speaker 1: he was on the ground floor. I want to thank you.
Speaker 1: I feel like they were making Do Rags they himself. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: He would have had to go to I don't know
Speaker 1: where they make velvet. I was just good out myself.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing, here's the thing, and hear me out.
Speaker 2: Nobody up to this point had ever thought to brand
Speaker 2: Duke Rags, even Nelly when he was doing them two
Speaker 2: tone Do Rags, and that was like their signature ship
Speaker 2: that he never came out with a Due Rag company.
Speaker 2: Bow Wow's the first motherfucker to be like, I'll put
Speaker 2: my name on it if I'm a due Rag designer. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're bow Wow Do Rags. You can have fifty one
Speaker 2: percent of what is ultimately going to be a billion dollars.
Speaker 1: Give him fifty one That's a lot like sh now
Speaker 1: now bow all the control and power. Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: you see what happens when he runs the ship. Collaboration
Speaker 1: would be to we don't want it. Yeah, you have
Speaker 1: limited edition. I want to imagine.
Speaker 2: I want to imagine bow Wow is the logan Roy
Speaker 2: of Rags where he's just.
Speaker 1: Sitting at the end of you mean it, you mean
Speaker 1: an embarrassment. You're not a serious person. I I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't. Oh no, I hate Kendall Logan logans. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I take it back, I take it back, I take
Speaker 1: it back.
Speaker 2: I love that you're like, Logan's a good guy.
Speaker 1: He's a beast, just what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But point being, I think ultimately if we're if we're
Speaker 2: really gonna land this plane, because but at some point
Speaker 2: we have to, it sounds like there is some possibility
Speaker 2: that there's truth to this and it's not just a
Speaker 2: cultural sort of time stamp that that if you don't
Speaker 2: have facial hair a black man, or if you do
Speaker 2: have a thick mustache as a white man, certainly you
Speaker 2: are doing something that we all need to be slightly
Speaker 2: wary of. And what that something is is yet to
Speaker 2: be decided.
Speaker 3: Amazing through these last two words from more than two,
Speaker 3: Abraham Lincoln had no mustache and a beard.
Speaker 1: He was half white, half black. People know that, and
Speaker 1: that's why he had that. So that's just on those
Speaker 1: I am on those Reddit forums. Yes I do know,
Speaker 1: yeopia right, and then you look at me like I cannot.
Speaker 2: Very tall and he got them eyes?
Speaker 1: Yeah right, thank you guys, though, letting me do that.
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