WEBVTT - 040123 Actual Police Heroism on Display (Part 1) 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.640 Welcome to another episode of Civic Cipher. I'm your host, 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:04.960 ramses jah Jah, I. 0:00:05.080 --> 0:00:08.760 Am q Ward, and you people are tuned in with 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:11.479 us again to Civic Ciphers. 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:14.360 Indeed, you are a lot to stick around for today. 0:00:14.480 --> 0:00:21.759 As you know, it has been a sad week, another 0:00:22.960 --> 0:00:28.600 mass shooting event, another school shooting event, and we are 0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:34.200 going to definitely take some time to examine that. We're 0:00:34.200 --> 0:00:37.040 going to ask a few questions that we hope to 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:40.200 leave you with so that you know, we all can 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:44.760 do some soul searching and find the answers that are 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:50.159 appropriate for us to move forward. And one of the 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:51.920 things we're not going to do is pretend like this 0:00:52.240 --> 0:00:54.920 hasn't happened before, and it'd be hard for us to 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:57.680 pretend like it won't happen again. So we are going 0:00:57.720 --> 0:01:03.440 to respect your intelligence and asking these questions. But indeed 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:08.160 we feel it's necessary to break down kind of where 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:11.640 we are with this country, and we have to come 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:15.679 to terms with some things that you know, we do 0:01:15.800 --> 0:01:19.120 on this show consistently and give credit where it's due. 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:23.040 That partly comes from Cute wanting us to make sure 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:27.560 that we acknowledge, you know, heroism when we actually saw 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:30.240 it and everything else, So a lot to stick around 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:34.039 for insofar as that's concerned. We're also going to be 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:41.800 discussing our Way Black History Fact as a former slave 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:46.360 who actually arrested a sitting president once upon a time. 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:50.680 So for those folks out there thinking that what is 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:55.080 happening to our former president that being unprecedented, we got 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:57.840 news for you today in the Way Black History Fact, 0:01:57.880 --> 0:01:59.560 That and so much more to stick around for. But 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:03.640 first and foremost, this is q's favorite part of the show. 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:08.200 We call it Ebony Excellence. So how do you feel 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:09.400 about getting some Abney excellence? 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:09.720 Que? 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:13.639 Shall we? I think we shall. So Today's Abny Excellence 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:16.160 is sponsored by Hip Hop Weekly Media and we're reading 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:20.280 from Black Enterprise dot Com. The title of this one, 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:25.519 a New Orleans teen makes impressive mathematical discovery, or rather 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:30.160 New Orleans teens, so I'll read this the ingenuity of 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:35.040 children has always been inspiring. New Orleans teenagers Calcia Johnson 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:41.600 and Nikaiah Jackson ingenuity enabled them to figure out a 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:45.840 mathematical equation that it's seemingly been impossible. According to four 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:51.240 w WL, Johnson and Jackson demonstrated that Pythagoras's theorem can 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:55.000 be proven with trigonometry. High school students presented their findings 0:02:55.040 --> 0:03:00.120 at the American Mathematical Society's annual Southeastern Conferences. This is all. 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:03.680 It's really an unparalleled feeling, honestly, because there's just nothing 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:05.799 like being able to do something that people don't think 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:09.720 young people can do, Johnson told for WWL. She goes 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:11.440 on to say, a lot of times you see this stuff, 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:14.560 but you don't see kids like us doing it. Four. 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:20.320 WWL reported that mathematicians have tried to prove Pythagoras's theorem 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:24.440 can be proven with trigonomy trigonometry for two thousand years. 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:25.720 This is a lot of stuff to say. I'm not 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:27.680 going to pretend like I know any of this stuff means. 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:30.600 But these kids do, these little black girls, this is 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:35.120 black girl ebony, black girl excellence, black girl magic in 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:38.320 the highest order. Yeah, they've been trying to prove this 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:42.960 using trigonometry for two thousand years, and a teacher challenged 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:46.440 them to prove the theory. The Grio reports that Johnson 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:50.160 and Jackson's abstract adds that the book with the largest 0:03:50.200 --> 0:03:53.840 known collections of proofs for the theorem, Atlisia Loomis's the 0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:58.960 Pythagoram proposition flatly states there are no trigonomic proofs because 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:01.880 all the fundamental formula of trigonometry are themselves based upon 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:06.800 the truth of the Pythagorin theorem. So they broke mathematics 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:09.480 for the better, and we as human beings are a 0:04:09.520 --> 0:04:12.640 little bit further along. So that's your ebony excellence for 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:23.680 the day. Now, the Nashville shooting. This is the one 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:29.400 hundred and thirtieth mass shooting event of twenty twenty three. 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:40.160 One hundred and thirty of them have happened. And I 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:46.440 you know, if you're online on social media, you probably 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:51.240 come across the same statistics that I do that other 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:56.080 countries don't have mass shootings because they've taken steps and 0:04:56.160 --> 0:05:00.600 they've you know, organized their guns, their fire and so 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:06.480 forth and so on. I remember mentioning that the United 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:16.240 States has the most private firearms in our personal arsenal arsenals. 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:19.120 I should say, then the next like ten countries combined, 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:23.840 and we're the third largest country, and number two and 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:26.720 number three on the list are China and India, which 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:29.000 are the number one and number two largest countries in 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:31.599 the world. And then it goes on to include like 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:36.880 you know, Pakistan and Great Britain and all the other 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:40.080 countries on the list, and we have more than all 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:43.160 of them put together, and that we do have a 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:46.320 gun problem. Wow, yeah, you remember that. I remember sending 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:46.640 that to you. 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:50.120 How many shootings have we had this year? 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:52.640 Around one hundred and thirty mass shooting events? 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:54.760 You know, there haven't been one hundred and thirty days 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:57.360 this year yet. Yeah, there hasn't been one hundred days 0:05:57.400 --> 0:06:02.039 this year yet. Yeah, hasn't been ninety days this year yet. 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:07.360 All all true, and again all things that people come 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:10.560 across on your social media. So you know, the one 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:12.440 thing we don't want to do is insult your intelligence. 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:15.680 We know that this is a tragic thing, and you know, 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:21.040 we don't like to deal with tragedy. But unfortunately it's 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:25.160 the nature of the show. Obviously, we deal with issues 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:29.479 that affect you know, black and brown communities primarily and 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:35.159 marginalize peoples in this country, and as a result, we 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:42.480 often deal with a lot of police issues. And so today, 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:47.480 the reason we're talking about this is because we had 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:50.279 a lot to say about the nature of police, the 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:57.000 purpose of police, especially after the yu've All Day School shooting. 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:02.760 We were very critical of the police's response at that time, 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:04.880 and on this show, we have been critical of a 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:08.480 lot of police responses. You know, again, we do our 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:10.560 best to advocate for black and brown people, black and 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:14.160 brown bodies, black and brown communities, and marginalized communities in 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:20.480 this country, and so being critical of the way policing 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:22.440 is done is kind of part and parcel for what 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:34.240 we do here. However, when police actually do something that 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:39.040 goes against you know, let's be fair, it goes against 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:45.040 human instinct running towards the danger. When police do things 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:49.120 that we would consider above and beyond the scope of 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:54.400 what the normal duty is and could be considered a 0:07:54.440 --> 0:08:01.760 heroic action, and police end up you know, who's to 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:04.840 say how the outcome would have been different. But if 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:08.520 we're being generous here, we'll say, if police indeed save 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:13.600 lives as a result of their actions, then we have 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:15.320 to acknowledge that. 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:17.840 Yeah, And I also think rams is that. 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:24.480 You said above and beyond, that's what they're supposed to do. 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:27.480 Okay, that's it. I just wanted to go back to that. 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:31.200 I don't think that them being heroic is above and beyond, 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:35.720 because that's kind of what you sign up for. Yeah, 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:40.720 to go toward the danger in the name of protecting 0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:45.560 and serving the public right. For those that actually do that, 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:49.880 it should be considered heroic. It should, but it shouldn't 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:53.320 be considered above and beyond, because that should be the 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:59.520 expectation if you signed up and applied and tested and 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:03.319 trained for that job. It's not like the military once 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:05.800 upon a time, where there was a draft where you're 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:08.120 drafted into the civic duty of being a police officer 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:10.800 and then whether or not you're brave, it's kind of 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:16.440 a lottery shot. Yeah, for most police agencies in this country, 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:20.040 you voluntarily sign up for that gig with all that 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:23.280 comes with it. So it should not be beyond scope 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:26.440 or beyond expectation for you to do what this hero 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:28.320 is the job that you applied for. 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:32.000 I think that you know, one of the things that 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:34.600 I think what I was trying to suggest in that 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:44.240 moment is that police are allowed to be human beings. 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:49.720 And I want to couple that expectation with police are 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:55.520 supposed to be supposed to represent the best of us, right, 0:09:56.600 --> 0:10:01.040 and so if police are allowed to be human beings, 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:07.520 than going against that very nature, that that instinct that says, 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:10.000 if I go here, I'm going to be harmed, hurt, shot, 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:13.880 die or I could be rather could be sure, but 0:10:14.000 --> 0:10:18.920 going against that that requires courage, that make a level 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:22.439 of courage, and most people may never face, may never 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:24.480 even face. And so that's what I was trying to acknowledge. 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:28.360 So maybe hero is not the right word, but I 0:10:28.480 --> 0:10:30.719 certainly want to acknowledge I think hero is the right word. 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:32.720 Okay, okay, I just don't think it should be framed 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:35.680 as above and beyond. Then that's the job they're signed 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:37.840 up for, you know, even if it is against your 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:40.000 normal instinct. But I think that's the point. That's why 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:44.120 it's also heroic. It's what the job calls for. But 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:46.480 to sign up for that job and then do that 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:49.880 job should be heroic. The reason why we kind of 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:52.800 on this show argue against police officers being called. 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:54.760 Heroes because they don't do anything. 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:57.320 They're not doing the heroic thing, just get called they're 0:10:57.360 --> 0:11:00.400 doing the people thing. Sure, and that's fair that you're 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:02.600 behaving the way that a human being normally would in 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:05.600 these circumstances, but that isn't what you signed up for. 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:07.960 That's why when we're scared and when we're in danger, 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:13.520 we call you, hey, hero, people. Can you come to 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:15.480 some hero stuff over here because we're terrified? 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:17.880 Yeah so, and y'all got the millions. 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:19.640 Yeah, So I think what you said is fair. I 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:21.640 think using the word hero in that instance is fair. 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:27.199 Okay, good. So why are we talking about this in 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:30.080 the first place. Well, I'll let you take the floor 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:33.920 here because you sent over a video for this week, 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:37.440 and I want you to talk to people through it 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:39.320 and talk me through it because I didn't I didn't 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:43.319 actually watch the video for you listening. As you may 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:47.240 or may not know, on this show, we take turns 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:53.640 when it comes to reviewing videos where violence is displayed, 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:57.920 and so so you talk to people through what the 0:11:58.000 --> 0:11:59.000 video is about. 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:01.480 The thing that I think we do here kind of 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:04.560 masterfully as we paint a picture with strokes that don't 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:08.040 require us to use pencils, But why brushed paint brushes? 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:11.640 The specifics of this. 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:14.160 Video that need to be pointed out is it is 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:17.040 a video from the vantage point of a police officer, 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:23.920 from a body cam, of the officer speeding toward the 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:32.160 danger and proactively with urgency, with haste, making the I 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:35.280 need to go and try to save and or protect 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:39.400 and or apprehend and or stop the people that need 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:42.080 to protect and the person that's putting them in danger 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:46.280 in that order, And there's no other way to translate 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:48.400 this video. Like even if you were somebody who's made 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:50.959 your career or your life on the stance that police 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:52.959 are by nature awful. 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:54.160 Which is not what we do. 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:58.439 But even if you did, if you watch this video 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:02.559 and that's your stance on this officer, then somebody is 0:13:02.640 --> 0:13:06.640 wrong that right. Every decision made in this video, and 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:09.320 I think we can make it available on our social 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:13.760 media for you guys to watch. It is of an 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:16.680 officer who's determined when he left the house that day 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:20.640 that if he were putting this probably long before he 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:23.080 left the house that day, that if he were ever 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:26.960 put into this position, maybe it was when the Uvall 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:30.199 Day shooting happened. Maybe that was the day, he said, 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:34.560 not on my watch, but whenever that decision happened, it 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:38.640 was before this day, because he was ready and from 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:41.880 the car speeding toward the scene to this person getting 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:44.720 out of their vehicle, and like I said in post taste, 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:50.640 moving toward danger, it was clear that this officer's dedication 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:54.080 to the job, dedication to the public that they served, 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:59.920 was real was authentic, was brave, was heroic, was all 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:02.280 all the things that when children say they want to 0:14:02.320 --> 0:14:04.800 be police officers when they grow up, this is what 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:08.960 they're thinking, far before they know to be afraid, far 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:12.920 before they know the mortality of human beings, and that 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:15.480 by simply signing up for this job, that you might 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:19.360 not make it home every day. Right, That very very heroic, 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:27.520 very very idealistic image of law enforcement and policing that 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:30.440 children have when they make that this is what I 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:32.600 want to do when I grow up statement. This person 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:35.600 grew up into that person, and I'll find out the 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:38.000 officer's name. Ramses, remind me so that we can say 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:40.040 that officer's name either today or the next time we 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:41.320 record officer. 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:49.600 Michael Colonzo Colaso. Michael Michael Colaso Comma hero. So that's 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:51.760 why I'm saying I don't have a problem using that 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:55.480 word at all. It just sadly doesn't always apply, and 0:14:56.160 --> 0:15:00.000 in this career choice it should. That should be the expectation, 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:02.760 expectation for the pilot flying. My plan is that he'll 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:04.920 take it off and land it safely. That's the expectation. 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:08.200 We don't stand up and cheer like we should because 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:11.400 it's quite miraculous. But the reason that we don't is 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:12.160 because it's a pilot. 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:13.960 If I flew a plane and landed, that people would 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:15.880 jump for joy, oh my god, the guy who from 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:18.560 twenty four to se got up and landed the plane. 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:21.320 When the pilot does it, because that's the job that 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:24.800 they trained signed up for, the expectation is that they 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:30.880 will execute that job almost with perfection, because not doing 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:33.160 it with perfection could result in all of us losing 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:36.200 our lives. And that is our point, people, That is 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:38.080 the point we try to make every time you hear 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:38.840 us being. 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:40.040 Hyper critical of police. 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:43.560 The job that you signed up for does not come 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:46.360 with the margin of error that would allow you to 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:49.240 kill us or allow us to be killed while you're 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:55.120 there hiding and protecting yourself. So I don't mind at 0:15:55.120 --> 0:16:00.000 all my brother, my teammate calling officers who act here, 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:03.880 even if it is just doing the basics of the job, heroic, 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:07.680 because like he said, it is against human nature to 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:11.160 run towards the fire. It is against human nature to 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:14.280 not cover up and duck for cover and hide behind 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:19.800 shelter and protect yourself. However, the reason that you get paid, 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:21.880 the reason that your trained and the reason why you're 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:26.600 armed is so that when these situations arise, you protect 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:29.360 and serve private citizens who do not have your training 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:32.520 or your ammunition or your backup, not so that you 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:35.360 kill them when they call you for help. Because they're 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:38.120 having mental breakdowns, or because they were driving too fast, 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:40.200 or because they ran the light, or because their tail 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:42.400 lights out. Are all these benign reasons that. 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:42.800 Should not. 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:48.400 Conclude a person's life. And even if I said the 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:50.720 most serious of crimes in that list that I just said, 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:53.800 those people ending up dead at the end of their end, 0:16:53.960 --> 0:16:57.080 at the end of their interaction with you should not 0:16:57.160 --> 0:16:57.800 be the case. 0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:01.840 Sure, sure, you know there's so there's this video that 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:07.480 I saw recently. Just so that we have we're able 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:12.280 to kind of make the establish the contrast. I was 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:16.040 looking at a video the other day online and this 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:20.520 looked like it was a Hispanic man in California, younger 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:25.000 looking guy and driving some sort of sports car, got 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:30.000 pulled over somewhere in California or having tent being too dark, 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:33.199 had all this paperwork in order, he was leaving the gym, 0:17:33.560 --> 0:17:37.720 everything was fine, and he's recording the police interaction. So 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:39.440 the police come up to the car and they say, hey, 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:44.000 your tent's too dark, and he says, yes, I I'm 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:47.439 aware of that. I was pulled over recently and I 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:50.760 got it's called a fix it ticket, meaning like I 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:52.879 get like thirty days to fix it or something like that. 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:54.359 I'm still within the thirty days, so I'm going to 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:58.880 get it taken care of. And the officer just kind 0:17:58.880 --> 0:18:00.520 of goes through the routine. Okay, do you have anything 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:02.240 in the car blah blah blah, anything I need to 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:06.320 know about, and he says and by now in the film, 0:18:06.480 --> 0:18:13.240 he's got a backup officer there right, Hispanic mail. So 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:20.720 the uh when when the officer asks, he says, you know, yes, 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:23.720 I do have a uh like a gun in the 0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:25.639 trunk of my car or something like that. Smith and 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:28.399 Wesson or something like that gun in my car. Smith 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:29.959 and Wesson, in case you don't know, is like a 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:33.600 company that makes guns. So he says, yeah, I have 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:35.879 a I have a gun with me, you know, and 0:18:35.920 --> 0:18:38.720 it's it's in the trunk of the car. At least 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:42.000 I believe I'm doing this for memory here. So then 0:18:42.080 --> 0:18:45.919 the second officer was a woman. She says she she 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:50.200 puts her hand on her gun. Right, She's like, oh, 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:52.879 well listen, I'm gonna need to get you out of 0:18:52.880 --> 0:18:53.959 the car. And he's like, well, what do I need 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:55.440 to get out of the car for? I got the 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:58.640 tent is getting fixed to fix the ticket. I'm I'm fine, 0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:00.800 I'm law abiding citizen. If I have a gun, I 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:03.439 have a gun in the car, that's fine. I'm not 0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:06.200 doing anything wrong. And then all of a sudden, both 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:08.159 of the officers are like, you know, why are you 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:11.280 being combative? And you know, blah blah blah. And then 0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:15.320 the backup officer, the female officer, pulls her gun out 0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:17.320 and points it at the guy as he's in the car, 0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:19.399 and he's like, whoa, whoa, what are you doing? You 0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:23.359 know what I mean? So, of course there's going to 0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:26.640 be no issues with her pulling a gun on this guy. 0:19:27.000 --> 0:19:28.840 You know, she's not going to get reprimanded or anything 0:19:28.880 --> 0:19:33.280 like that because she was afraid. So the contrast, and 0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:37.639 that'll be the excuse, the contrast between bravery, which I 0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:40.119 think is a precursor to hear heroism or what we 0:19:40.160 --> 0:19:45.960 would call a hero It needs to be applauded, and 0:19:46.000 --> 0:19:48.359 that's what we're doing today because we see far too 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:51.919 many examples of police doing what we would consider to 0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:56.159 be cowardly things and then hiding behind the fact that 0:19:56.200 --> 0:19:59.919 they were scared for their life when indeed there is 0:20:00.160 --> 0:20:03.760 no threat. And we see this often after the fact 0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:05.760 there was no threat. He didn't actually have a gun, 0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:08.399 he was had a cell phone or whatever. The story 0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:12.800 is right, And so in moments like this, it's important 0:20:12.840 --> 0:20:19.040 to applaud the actions of the people that do the 0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:24.960 job right so that everyone else knows what our expectation is. 0:20:27.680 --> 0:20:34.160 And once we have that kind of gold standard established, 0:20:34.720 --> 0:20:36.600 and then we can start kind of working back from 0:20:36.600 --> 0:20:39.520 there to suggest, Okay, well this is working and this 0:20:39.680 --> 0:20:44.040 is not working. If you're constantly becoming afraid as you're 0:20:44.080 --> 0:20:48.000 doing your job, and somehow that fear is costing people 0:20:48.000 --> 0:20:52.280 their lives, then we need to reassess your value in 0:20:52.320 --> 0:20:54.600 this capacityas. 0:20:53.600 --> 0:20:56.000 I think you suggested something once upon a time that 0:20:56.080 --> 0:20:59.119 was brilliant, and please forgive me if I destroyed this 0:20:59.240 --> 0:21:01.480 in a way that you said it, but I think 0:21:01.520 --> 0:21:02.160 you'll get what. 0:21:02.280 --> 0:21:03.760 I thought you meant. 0:21:04.520 --> 0:21:09.480 The officer in that video. Officers that officer and officers 0:21:09.640 --> 0:21:12.679 like that officer should be who we call when something 0:21:12.720 --> 0:21:16.080 like this happens. Hey, there's a person here shooting people, 0:21:16.560 --> 0:21:19.680 and those officers should rush to that scene with their 0:21:19.800 --> 0:21:22.480 rifles and their tanks and all that tactical gear to 0:21:22.560 --> 0:21:25.960 handle stuff like that. That same person should not pull 0:21:26.000 --> 0:21:31.040 me over for doing seventy five and fifty. And I 0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:34.120 think RAMS has communicated that before, Like, we're not saying 0:21:34.400 --> 0:21:36.879 that there shouldn't be people who come and stop mass 0:21:36.880 --> 0:21:40.600 shooters when they show up. We are saying those same 0:21:40.760 --> 0:21:43.679 people should not be giving me a speeding ticket with 0:21:43.760 --> 0:21:44.560 their gun out. 0:21:44.840 --> 0:21:47.000 Yeah, exactly. 0:21:47.480 --> 0:21:50.520 That doesn't make any sense, and it shouldn't have ever 0:21:50.600 --> 0:21:51.479 made any sense. 0:21:52.000 --> 0:21:54.000 And I think the point you're making, or the point 0:21:54.000 --> 0:21:58.520 that I was making at the time, was it's very 0:21:58.560 --> 0:22:01.439 strange when you stop and think about it, that for 0:22:01.560 --> 0:22:07.440 the vast majority of calls to the police department, they 0:22:08.000 --> 0:22:11.280 do not require an individual to show up with a 0:22:11.359 --> 0:22:16.600 murder weapon on their hip. It's just not something that's necessary. 0:22:17.080 --> 0:22:19.359 Most of the calls that are like welfare checks or 0:22:19.840 --> 0:22:22.760 you know, the traffic stops, routine traffic stops, things like that, 0:22:23.240 --> 0:22:29.400 they don't require a weapon to a tool that's only 0:22:29.520 --> 0:22:33.040 used is to end to life. And the narrative that 0:22:33.080 --> 0:22:37.400 has been chronicled in this country, deeply ingrained in our psyche, 0:22:37.480 --> 0:22:40.480 is that, well, what if something bad happens to the officers, 0:22:40.760 --> 0:22:43.480 we need to protect officer lives at all costs, even 0:22:43.520 --> 0:22:47.840 at the expense of the general public. And because oftentimes 0:22:47.920 --> 0:22:53.000 the general public that is being affected by these officers 0:22:53.000 --> 0:22:58.359 and their guns, that those individuals are black and brown. 0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:05.520 It's like, you know, as as a populations, as a total, 0:23:05.720 --> 0:23:09.440 you know, as a country, everybody is surprisingly okay with that. Well, 0:23:09.480 --> 0:23:11.320 they're just kind of shooting black people, brown people, you 0:23:11.320 --> 0:23:13.520 know what I mean, It's kind of the same. 0:23:13.640 --> 0:23:16.399 It's the same energy or by nature criminal and most 0:23:16.440 --> 0:23:17.200 likely to do harm. 0:23:17.240 --> 0:23:19.960 So of course you're not scared. Of course they were scared. 0:23:20.000 --> 0:23:24.360 They were on Crenshaw. So watch this. I'm gonna show 0:23:24.359 --> 0:23:28.280 you the hypocrisy here. Dave Chappelle pointed this out. Once 0:23:28.359 --> 0:23:39.359 upon a time, drugs ravaged the black community in this country, 0:23:39.680 --> 0:23:45.360 ghettos all across the country, Drugs, crack babies, all kinds 0:23:45.359 --> 0:23:47.879 of stuff, you know, people dying from overdoses. This note 0:23:47.920 --> 0:23:52.800 the third, and no one cared. They criminalized drugs rather 0:23:52.840 --> 0:23:56.399 than treating like a health issue. They threw everybody in jail. 0:23:57.040 --> 0:23:58.960 And just turned a blind eye to the rest of it, 0:23:59.200 --> 0:24:02.439 let the animals wi themselves out. And then fast forward 0:24:02.720 --> 0:24:08.160 twenty five years something like that. Thirty years drugs ravage 0:24:08.200 --> 0:24:12.960 the white community, fentanmol right, drugs, same same steel ravishing 0:24:13.000 --> 0:24:16.280 the same thing, right, and now there's programs people care 0:24:16.359 --> 0:24:18.280 deeply we have to do, we have to fix, we 0:24:18.320 --> 0:24:20.960 have to change this. It's not that you're not You'll 0:24:21.040 --> 0:24:25.399 never see people in jail for fentanol not not serving 0:24:25.440 --> 0:24:28.400 them football numbers like that, like you know if you were. 0:24:28.560 --> 0:24:32.160 Sen and not the users of the drug, right, people 0:24:32.240 --> 0:24:35.280 being caught selling this stuff in mass are being prosecuted. 0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:36.960 Sure, yeah, of course, people who. 0:24:36.760 --> 0:24:41.880