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Speaker 1: Hi, can everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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Speaker 1: the Bengals Boot podcast. Let's get it started, ha audition.

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Speaker 1: As we get you set for Sunday's home opener at

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Speaker 1: Paul Brown Stadium as the Bengals host the San Francisco

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Speaker 1: forty nine Ers. Coming up, you'll hear three conversations. First,

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Speaker 1: I'll talk to my broadcast partner, Dave Lapham, as we

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Speaker 1: look back at last week's encouraging yet ultimately disappointing one

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Speaker 1: against the Niners. I'll also sit down with a number

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Speaker 1: one graded center in the NFL after the opening week

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Speaker 1: of the season according to Pro Football Focus, Trey Hopkins

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Speaker 1: will discuss his play who deserves the credit for dealing

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Speaker 1: with the crowd noise in Seattle, and I'll offer him

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Speaker 1: this week's Know the Faux segment, we'll get the lowdown

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Speaker 1: on the San Francisco forty nine ers from somebody who

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Speaker 1: knew me when I had a full head of red hair.

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Speaker 1: It was glorious, but that will not come up in

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Speaker 1: our conversation. All of that is straight ahead. But first,

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Speaker 1: to football. So how big is Sunday's home game against

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Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty nine Ers. Well, let's put it

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Speaker 1: this way. NFL teams that open the season oh and

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Speaker 1: two only make the playoffs twelve point six percent of

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Speaker 1: the time. That's it. Nearly nine out of ten teams

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Speaker 1: that start the season oh and two don't make it.

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Speaker 1: One and one teams, on the other hand, make it

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Speaker 1: forty one percent of the time. And even if you

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Speaker 1: think it's way too early to even think about the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: then consider this. All the enthusiasm and optimism generated by

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Speaker 1: last week's showing at Seattle will be seriously dampened if

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Speaker 1: the Bengals lose it home to a team that has

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Speaker 1: Time to discuss all things Bengals with my broadcast partner

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Speaker 1: Dave lappam Lap. Through one week, Andy Dalton leads the

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Speaker 1: NFL in passing yards with four eighteen, but he's also

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Speaker 1: tied for first in batted passes with four Is that

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Speaker 1: a relative lack of height? Is that too much push

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Speaker 1: I think it's a combination. You know, in certain cases,

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Speaker 1: Andy isn't the tallest quarterback in the world, so the

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Speaker 1: push becomes more of an issue. If you can, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's it's a little bit easier. Sometimes you have to

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Speaker 1: but like Jejevian Clowney, if he gets close to you,

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Speaker 1: it's like trying to throw around an octopus. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the guy's got such a huge wingspan, it's really hard

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Speaker 1: Clowne he got early in the game was set up

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Speaker 1: combination of all things lap. The NFL's highest rated center

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Speaker 1: People were killing the Bengals. They're on their eighty ninth

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Speaker 1: But did Zach Taylor wind up hiring a creative, great

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Speaker 1: it changes your approach how you handle how you handle,

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Speaker 1: you know, the running game. Let's see what kind of

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Speaker 1: adjustments lu and A Rumu makes in terms of personnel configurations, formations,

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Speaker 1: all those all those sorts of things. And the other

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Speaker 1: thing that Luke Ruma has to concern himself with is

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan is regarded and rightfully so, is one of

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Speaker 1: the best in the league at getting separation for players

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Speaker 1: because of scheme, not because of physical ability. He schemes

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Speaker 1: up guys that are just wide open and he finds

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Speaker 1: he finds weaknesses and defensive coverages that he utilizes. And

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Speaker 1: it's not like guys are blowing assignments. He just finds, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, zones areas to take advantage of by film

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Speaker 1: study and run a round combination. Accordingly, he's very very

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Speaker 1: clever with that. A year ago, at this time, we

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Speaker 1: would have had a hard time identifying who George Kittle was.

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Speaker 1: He set the NFL record for yards receiving yards by

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Speaker 1: a tight end last year one three hundred and seventy seven.

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Speaker 1: He had two ten and a half against the Denver

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Speaker 1: Broncos last year. What stands out when you watched George Kittle?

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Speaker 1: I like his chips, Oh no, that's Kettle. But Kitt Kittle,

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Speaker 1: Kittle is I mean, the guy. Here's a fifth round

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Speaker 1: pick out of Iowa that has just I mean and

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Speaker 1: the thing that impressed me the most, he had more

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Speaker 1: receiving yards than any tight end in NFL history. Like

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Speaker 1: you said, three different quarterbacks, three different quarterbacks thrown in

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Speaker 1: the football. That's not that's not you know, the easiest

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Speaker 1: thing to do. But the one thing that you realize

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Speaker 1: is every single one of them said, I gotta find

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Speaker 1: that guy. George Kittle became the primary no matter who

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Speaker 1: the quarterback was in the progression. Kittle was like and

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan realized what he had with Kittle and he

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Speaker 1: became a focal point in the progres of the routes. So, um, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's he's somebody you know that in the tight ends

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Speaker 1: that are in the league now, they're they're too big

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Speaker 1: for defensive backs. You know, they have too big a

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Speaker 1: catching radius, too big a body, they can win the

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Speaker 1: contested catches, and they're too fast for linebackers. So Kittle,

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Speaker 1: Kittle falls into that department, and uh, you know you're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to a lot of a lot of teams

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Speaker 1: bracket him they'll bracket him with a with a linebacker

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Speaker 1: and a safety, you know, a corner and a linebacker.

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Speaker 1: If it's if it's nickel package, even they'll detach him

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Speaker 1: and they'll they'll you know, have two defensive backs on him.

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Speaker 1: You know, from time to time, Kittle's the guy that

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Speaker 1: you have to look where he is in the formation

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Speaker 1: and account for him. There's no question about it. Lap

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Speaker 1: The San Francisco forty nine Ers defense forced four turnovers

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Speaker 1: last week and a win at Tampa Bay after coming

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Speaker 1: away with seven takeaways all of last year as a team,

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Speaker 1: they had two interceptions all year. Last year, they had

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Speaker 1: two pick sixes off Jamis Winston last week. How good

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Speaker 1: is this forty nine ers d It's a heck of

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Speaker 1: a lot better, I think last year Dan as you

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Speaker 1: as you mentioned they had two interceptions, dead last in league,

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Speaker 1: fifty five return yards, tied for worse than the league.

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Speaker 1: In Week one, they had three interceptions, two of them

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Speaker 1: would pick sixes for fifty seven yards. They've already returned

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Speaker 1: interceptions for more yards than they did, you know, all

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Speaker 1: of last season. Richard Sherman had one. That's you know,

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Speaker 1: that's not a surprise, but I think it starts up front.

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Speaker 1: You know, they traded, they traded for d Ford. They've

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Speaker 1: got Armstead partner had twelve sacks last year. They draft

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Speaker 1: Nick Boza, so they've got guys that can pressure the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And that's where it starts. Witherspoon, each cornerback had to

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Speaker 1: pick six. Sherman had one, Witherspoon had one. So I

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Speaker 1: think it starts with good pressure. And Jamis Winston has

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Speaker 1: a p pensili to throw him. Let's face it, I

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Speaker 1: mean he is He's to pick six king. I think

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Speaker 1: Andy Dalton will take better care of the football, particularly

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Speaker 1: you know, at home, although Winston was at home and

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Speaker 1: everybody's tearing their hair out. I'm sher in Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 1: But this defense is something to you know, concern yourself with.

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Speaker 1: You have to, uh, you know, be very careful with

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Speaker 1: the football, but you don't want to um get to

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Speaker 1: the point where you're afraid to take a chance on

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Speaker 1: a big play. But you want to try to make

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Speaker 1: the big play and avoid the big mistake, that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: Let's wrap up with your keys to the game. Keys

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Speaker 1: to the game. Well, the first first key is the

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Speaker 1: number fifteen, and that's because the Bengals left fifteen points

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Speaker 1: on the on the on the field. In the red zone.

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Speaker 1: They're o for three in the red zone. They're o

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Speaker 1: for one in goal to go situations. Um, they had

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Speaker 1: two field goals in Andy Dalton's fumble, So that's twenty

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Speaker 1: one potential points and they get six of them. The

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Speaker 1: other side of it, you know, Seattle is two for two.

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Speaker 1: They had fourteen points possible and they got them all

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Speaker 1: and they were one for one for one in the

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Speaker 1: in the first and goal situation. So in the compressed,

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Speaker 1: condensed field there they made more plays, they were more physical,

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Speaker 1: they got it done. The Bengals have to do a

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Speaker 1: better job in the red zone. And h minus two

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Speaker 1: is another key. And that's what the Bengals were in

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Speaker 1: the turnover of French Although the last turnover wasn't they

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Speaker 1: called a fumble on Andy Dalton. That was bogus, that

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Speaker 1: was an incomplete pass. But they were still minus in

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Speaker 1: the turnover department. And you know, they only had one

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Speaker 1: takeaway San Francisco, four takes, two gives. Two of their

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Speaker 1: takes were pick sixes. Three of the four takes were

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Speaker 1: interceptions two or pick sixes. Last year they had two

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Speaker 1: interceptions on the season they had. They got three in

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Speaker 1: the first game. They got more than they had all

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Speaker 1: year last year. So they only had seven takeaways and

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Speaker 1: they got four in this football game. So the Bengals

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Speaker 1: are gonna have to have to mind their p's and ques.

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Speaker 1: In terms of taking care of the football. Forty nine

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Speaker 1: is a staggering minus twenty five. The turnover department Seattle

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Speaker 1: was plus fifteen. They led the league the last week's

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Speaker 1: upon it. This week's upon it was minus twenty five,

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Speaker 1: worse than the league. And then defense, like we talked

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Speaker 1: about Dan, you know, forty six or the forty nine

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Speaker 1: plays the defense handled brilliantly. They got one hundred and

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Speaker 1: twenty six yards on forty six of the plays, two

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Speaker 1: point seven yards of play. Loui ana Una did a

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Speaker 1: great job of mixing five defensive lineman sixty b s

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Speaker 1: three of them sometimes with safeties. You know, they had

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Speaker 1: a forty eight yard and forty four yard pass plays

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Speaker 1: to forty fourty yard for a touchdown, third and one

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Speaker 1: Carson squeaked out for twenty one yards. But you can't

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Speaker 1: take those three plays a way. But forty six plays

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Speaker 1: to hold an NFL offense run by Russell Wilson to

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Speaker 1: two point seven yards of play. That dog will hunt Man.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna win football games. They keep doing that. The

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Speaker 1: website Pro Football Focus, which is based in downtown Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: grades every NFL player on every play in every game,

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Speaker 1: and each week they come out with a Team of

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Speaker 1: the Week made up of the highest graded players at

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Speaker 1: every position. Four Bengals made it in Week one. Let's

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Speaker 1: start with Sam Hubbard, who had two sacks, two additional

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Speaker 1: quarterback hits, and finished with ten tackles. He was the

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Speaker 1: only defensive lineman in the NFL with double digit tackles

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Speaker 1: in Week one. Geno Atkins also made it as one

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Speaker 1: of two interior defensive linemen along with Grady Jared of

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Speaker 1: the Falcons. Although it's interesting to note that Andrew Billings

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Speaker 1: of the Bengals got an even higher grade than Atkins.

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Speaker 1: The fact that Gino is in for twice as many

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Speaker 1: snaps as Billings probably explains why Atkins made the Team

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Speaker 1: of the Week instead of his Bengals teammate. Punter Kevin

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Speaker 1: Huber also made it. The hang time on Kevin's four

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Speaker 1: punds averaged four point five one seconds. The final Bengals

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Speaker 1: player on the Team of the Week was a surprise

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Speaker 1: center Trey Hopkins. According to Pro Football Focus, he only

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Speaker 1: allowed one hurry in fifty nine pass blocking snaps and

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Speaker 1: also had the highest grade of any center on run

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Speaker 1: blocking plays. I talked to Trey about that and much more.

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Speaker 1: We're in the locker room with Bengals center Trey Hopkins,

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Speaker 1: the number one ranked center in the NFL after one

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Speaker 1: week according to Pro Football Focus. I assume you saw that.

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Speaker 1: What was your reaction. Yeah, I got a couple of

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Speaker 1: songs calls from people. Um, it was shocking. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I felt like I played a pretty good game. Um,

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Speaker 1: let other people notice what you know. It's one of

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Speaker 1: the things where to be to be said, as you

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Speaker 1: did so great and know exactly what you have to fix.

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Speaker 1: It's like it's like there's still so much room for improvement.

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Speaker 1: So that's kind of what you have to look forward.

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Speaker 1: So you can't can't take the cheese. Say, you know,

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Speaker 1: are you your own harshest critic? One one hundred percent?

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Speaker 1: I think I think that's most guys in this locker

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Speaker 1: room got. I think that's what gets you to this

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Speaker 1: level as being your harshest critic because people don't pat

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Speaker 1: you on the back all the time, but you have

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Speaker 1: to realize that it's it's a lot of football. When

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Speaker 1: you play you fifteen more regular season games, and I

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Speaker 1: mean you have to be you have to be improving

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Speaker 1: it each and every week. You can't. You can't fall

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Speaker 1: back and say, Okay, I had a pretty good game,

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Speaker 1: so let so I must have reached it. No, it's

594
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: been one week and there was so much more to

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Speaker 1: fix in that game. You know, we're talking to Trey Hopkins.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about how you guys handle the noise in

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Speaker 1: Seattle because there were no false starts and I think

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Speaker 1: someday my hearing loss will be traced to that game.

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Speaker 1: It was so loud. Who deserves the credit? I think everybody,

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Speaker 1: I really do. I think starting with coach which Coach

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Speaker 1: Taylor and Coach Turners. I mean, since since we showed

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00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: up in OCAs, we've been working at snap count, even

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00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: not even having to use it, but each and every

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Speaker 1: day walking to that Olan ring, Coach Turners just going

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Speaker 1: through the snapgounts, hammering the snap count stuff, you know,

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Speaker 1: each and every meeting. So it's it's really everybody on

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Speaker 1: the offense. It's put in a lot of time on

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Speaker 1: just nailing down the snapgount. That's that's one big advantage

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Speaker 1: we have and we have to take full advantage of it.

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Speaker 1: And you didn't do the same thing every time, which

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Speaker 1: I found interesting. Yeah, Yeah, that's that's another part of it.

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00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: We have to we have to be able to use

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Speaker 1: multiple things, because again, you can't let a defense tee

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Speaker 1: off on you and get into the same rhythm as you.

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Speaker 1: You have to use it as an advantage. Talking to

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Speaker 1: Trey Hopkins, over the last few years, you've started left guard,

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Speaker 1: right guard, and center. What's the hardest thing about moving

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Speaker 1: from spot to spot to spot. I don't I don't

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Speaker 1: think there's there's one hard this thing. It's it's kind

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Speaker 1: of just a mindset you have to have of Okay,

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Speaker 1: I have to be I guess you could say this hard.

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Speaker 1: Then you just have to be ready to play all

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Speaker 1: the slots, I guess is the thing. You can't ever

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Speaker 1: just focus in and being like okay when coaches giving

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Speaker 1: out notes in the meeting, I can't just only right

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Speaker 1: down left guard notes or only right down right garden.

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Speaker 1: You have to know each and every person's responsibility and

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00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: the corrections that they might get and you're not even

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Speaker 1: playing that position just because you never know when you'll

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Speaker 1: get thrown into a different in a different spot and

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Speaker 1: you're expected to perform well. When you showed up for

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Speaker 1: the off season program with a new coaching staff, did

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Speaker 1: you go into it with a mindset that the slate

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Speaker 1: ist clean, the best man will win the job. Um.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think you always hear that another year,

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Speaker 1: that each and every year, but I mean this is

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Speaker 1: the first year. I guess we actually kind of saw

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Speaker 1: it and and my mindset coming into the off season,

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Speaker 1: coming from all season was just the same one I

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00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: have every year. Is I mean, I put in the

641
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: work during the off season, during the months that we

642
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: were off, and now it's just it's just up to

643
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: me to just put it all out there and let

644
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: the chips fall where they may. And this year they

645
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: feel in my favor and it's gotta take advantage of it.

646
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about the forty nine ers.

647
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: They traded Ford Ford, they drafted Nick Posa's second overall.

648
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: They've got DeForrest Buckner in the middle of had twelve

649
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: sacks last year. When I watched a little of their

650
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: game against Tampa Bay last week. Those guys were all

651
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: over Jameis Winston. What stood out to you? They definitely

652
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: invested in the past rush and they definitely have it.

653
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,719
Speaker 1: Those guys are quick up the field. Everybody is up

654
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: the field, fast, quick twitch, explosive guys, and it's gonna

655
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: be a it's gonna be another rough game for us

656
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: up front. I mean, we've gotta we've gotta be stout,

657
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: We've got to be quick with our feet and get

658
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: in front of those guys and really hunker those guys

659
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,959
Speaker 1: down because they definitely have talent the front. I got

660
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: the sense before the Seattle game that you guys were

661
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: really confident. Now, I wonder, based on how you dominated statistically,

662
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: if that confidence becomes belief that this team is as

663
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,479
Speaker 1: good as you were hoping it might be. I definitely

664
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Speaker 1: think so, and that that's just a reflection of coach Taylor,

665
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: just the confidence he has and and everybody I think

666
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: over OTAs and through the prison Campbell's really bought in.

667
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 1: We we believe in what we're doing. We've seen the

668
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: success of it, and we and we expect success. And

669
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 1: we're also willing and able and eager to put in

670
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 1: the work to ensure the success. I think it's the

671
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: biggest thing and and so you know, I'm excited to

672
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: see what this year brings for us. I think it'll

673
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: be some great things. Last thing, were you really a

674
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: substitute teacher in the off season? Yeah? Yeah, I was

675
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: in um Ohio Preparatory School off of Cole rang Sti

676
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: of Ohio prep Um taught math and science for the

677
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 1: moth of January. So that was that was a cool experience,

678
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 1: just being with some some middle schoolers there. Did you

679
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: tell the guys or kids that you're an NFL player?

680
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: Did you let them figure it out? Yeah? They knew it,

681
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: and I just I just don't think some of them,

682
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure just didn't believe me at first until

683
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 1: some of the basketball kids came in and and we're like, yeah,

684
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: we went and look you up, and then everybody started

685
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: to believe me, and it became a little bit more

686
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: of a thing. But yeah, I let him no day one.

687
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: But it's one of those things, and you don't listen

688
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 1: to the subsuit teacher when they're introducing the stuff one

689
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: day one. I don't expect to be any different now.

690
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 1: But but I had a great time. I had a

691
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,760
Speaker 1: great time. I love the school, i love the faculty

692
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: and the experience, and I'm just really grateful for the principal,

693
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 1: their principal best for giving me the opportunity. I've got

694
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 1: an eighth grader at Walnut Hills. Are you available as

695
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: a math tutor? If I need you, I can I

696
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: pay you a few extra bucks, sir. Bring it on.

697
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: I think I think I remember right, very man. Best

698
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 1: of luck this week. Thank you. That's Trey Hopkins. Despite

699
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 1: my generous offer of a paid tutoring gig, Trey is

700
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: doing just fine financially. The Bengals used the second round

701
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: tender to hold on to him as a restricted free

702
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: agent this offseason, meaning the fourth year pro who was

703
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: undrafted coming out of the University of Texas will make

704
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 1: more than three million dollars this season. Now time for

705
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: this week's Know the Faux segment, as we'd do a

706
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: deep dive into the Bengals upcoming opponent with somebody that

707
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 1: knows the team. This week, it's the forty nine Ers

708
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: radio play by play man Greg Poppa, who was one

709
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: year ahead of me at Syracuse University and was one

710
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: of my biggest mentors as a sophomore at Syracuse. Greg

711
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: didn't sound like a college dude, and he sounded like

712
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: a pro. And over the years he has become a

713
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: legend in the Bay Area, where at various times he

714
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: has been the voice of the Oakland Raiders, the Oakland Days,

715
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 1: the Golden State Warriors, the San Francisco Giants, and now

716
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers. Greg joined Dave Lapham and me

717
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: on the Bengals Game Plan Show, and we started our

718
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: conversation by discussing that impressive resume. I've lost all those

719
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: jobs staying over the years. I think I worked for

720
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: everybody in child. Oh wait a minute, you're making this

721
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: sound like you're a freshman and I was a senior.

722
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: I think. I think technically you're older than me, so

723
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Speaker 1: ill you're my mentor. I don't know what talking about. Well,

724
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: I may look at you're only one year older than me,

725
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: so I guess I shouldn't clarify. But your first job

726
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: out of college was voice of the Indiana Pacers. Wow,

727
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: So that indicates how advanced you were as a college student.

728
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: That certainly helped my father on the team. That was good.

729
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 1: But how are you David good account? He's like an

730
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: all Orange Reunion to day. I'm looking forward. How about

731
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: that great? Yeah? How school of communication we've all done?

732
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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about the matchup this Sunday at

733
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: Paul Brown Stadium. I was watching the forty nine ers

734
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: game against Tampa Bay Buccaneers last Sunday. Your pass rush

735
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: is legit. They had a DFOD, they drafted Nick Bosa,

736
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,919
Speaker 1: and they were all over Jameis Winston in that game.

737
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: Is that the strength of the team, without question, That

738
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: is the identity of the twenty nineteen San Francisco forty

739
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,439
Speaker 1: nine erstand I saw d Ford obviously all my years

740
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: with the Raiders in the AFC West, and it's even

741
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: more you know David, you see him get down to

742
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: that four point stand and not do it standing up

743
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: like he did in Kansas City. And I was when

744
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: I saw him do it, because he didn't he didn't

745
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,720
Speaker 1: do anything in the preseason. He had a PRP injection,

746
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: he little leetzendonitis, and then right before the start of

747
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: the first game they activated and I saw him in

748
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 1: that four point stands and I said, man, you were

749
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: fast and chard the city. Now you're just looking at

750
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: track Star and he said he actually was at the

751
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 1: four point stands in high school, in college, and he

752
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: got to Kansas City and Coach Sutton set him up,

753
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: so he is just so fast. I von Miller's got

754
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: an incredibly fast first step, but I think a lot

755
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 1: of it is drawn anticipates the stamp count DEALI lineup

756
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: off sides a little bit too much like he did

757
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 1: in the AFC title game last year. Again the basic it.

758
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: But when he gets to get off, he's a track star.

759
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: And then Nick on the other side, he reminds me

760
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 1: so much of his brother, and I think he may

761
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: even be better. And then he got to Forest Buckner

762
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: inside Dan twelve Sacks and Eric arms and they're deep.

763
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: They got five former number one drafts to their D

764
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: line when you include Solomon Thomas, and when they they

765
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: got you know, Sheldon Day is a good player in

766
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: DJ Jones and Ronald Blair. But when they when they

767
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: have D four to one end and Nick bo sat

768
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: the other and the two I call him the tall

769
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 1: trees from Oregon DeForrest Buckner and Eric Armstead inside those

770
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: guys are like six seven sixty eight. It is really impressive.

771
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,959
Speaker 1: So your offensive line is gonna have to be ready

772
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: on Sunday. Yeah, and I also saw we were doing

773
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: some tape for our website showing some plays of the

774
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: forty nine ers. They had Buckner out at defensive end

775
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: and they kicked both inside at defensive tackle, and you know,

776
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 1: he was basically an offset Knows on the other side

777
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: of the formation away from Buckner. They ran a little twist.

778
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: It was on the interception one of the pick sixes

779
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 1: that Winston had. Yeah, they'll they'll transpose, they'll they'll interchange

780
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: these great pass rushers and see who's who's the best

781
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: matchup for him, right, I mean I can beat this

782
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: guy easier, I could beat that guy kind of thing. Yeah,

783
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 1: the one you're talking about was the screen at the

784
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: end of the game. Was that screen and they Yeah,

785
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 1: they lined up Nick inside. Nick is a powerful guy,

786
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: like his brother Joey Dan. He could easily line up

787
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 1: inside and they could put Armstead outside. And if you

788
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: notice on one snap they had d Ford up at

789
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:18,959
Speaker 1: a two point and he lined up over a guard.

790
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: I mean you could move them all around. So I mean,

791
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: in theory, forward and Boss are your edge guys, and

792
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 1: Buckner and Armstead are inside. But they both got skills

793
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 1: to move all over the front. So uh. And then

794
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: if you also notice on Richard Sherman's pick six that

795
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 1: was his own blitz. They dropped Solomon Thomas back, so

796
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: they'll you know, they'll play with a little bit and

797
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: they're their dreads. They're not playing as much covered three,

798
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: a little more covered two on Sunday. So this defense,

799
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 1: which was not very good last year, and I'm being

800
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: kind and Jamis is he's not a great player right now.

801
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: We'll see what he can do the rest of the

802
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: year and Andy will be more you know, clued in.

803
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 1: But this defense looks pretty good one game out, there's

804
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: no question. So last year only two interceptions, seven total

805
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: takeaways that had to be crazy, no interception by cornerbacks,

806
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: and this opener you get three interceptions, two pick six

807
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: is by cornerbacks, So I mean I was destroyed that already. Um.

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00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: And then Ford, like you mentioned Ford, this guy nine

809
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 1: forced fumbles since two thy seventeen. The only guy that's

810
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: got more as Aaron Donald, and he's forced in twenty

811
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Speaker 1: and eighteen. He forced seven turnovers from pressure, seven turnovers himself.

812
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,240
Speaker 1: The forty nine Ers had seven turnovers as a team.

813
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: So I mean getting a guy like that. I mean,

814
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: it's like, that's that's incredible. I mean, one by trade,

815
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: one by drafty they've done a good job of loading

816
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: it up front and they spend it a lot, you know,

817
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: to Nick to use the second pick overall the draft,

818
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 1: and then you get d They traded their second round

819
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: pick next year, right and Justin Houston was sitting out there.

820
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: They couldn't have bought him, but they wanted d Ford.

821
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: And as far as what you going to get the ball,

822
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 1: you know, in the AFC West, I saw Kalil Mack's

823
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the year's season in twenty sixteen, and

824
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 1: when Vaughn Miller, you know what these guys are doing, Dave.

825
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: They're not trying to sack the quarterback. They're trying to

826
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 1: sack the football. They're going specifically for the ball. And

827
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: I've talked to d about it. Look at the ball.

828
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: Look at the sack he got on Jamis. He was

829
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: just going for the ball. He was reaching. So if

830
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: you don't put two hands on the ball, you know

831
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: they're gonna go get the ball. Because when they know

832
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 1: you want the sack, that the ultimate thing is the

833
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: hat trick, the strip sack. And if you force the

834
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: fumble right out of the quarterback, sayings you got two there,

835
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: and then you want to go over cover the fumble

836
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: to get the hat trick. Yep. Great radio voice of

837
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: the forty nine is Greg Poppa is our guest. Let's

838
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: talk about Jimmy Garoppolo. All he does is win nine

839
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: and two and eleven NFL starts. But he didn't look

840
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: great last week. One hundred and sixty six passing yards

841
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: in the game. Is it just rust and dust as

842
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: he comes back from the torn acl Yes, I think

843
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 1: his rhythm is totally off and he's just not played

844
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: a lot of football. Then he only had ten starts

845
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 1: coming into the year. He had those two and New England.

846
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: It really was one and a half. He played so well.

847
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: He was supposed to play four when Brady got top

848
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: for the Bogus to play game. But he had a

849
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: great first game, came back and beat Arizona on the

850
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: road and at Sunday night, and then he had an

851
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: amazing game against Miami, but he held the ball too

852
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: long one play, Kolonzo lit him up and he heard

853
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: his shoulder and he lost that job. The set took

854
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: over and then he had the five stats tier at

855
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 1: the end of seventeen where they traded for him. But

856
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: that year they kind of just simplified the offense and

857
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 1: kind of let him run what he could run. It

858
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: wasn't a full game plan. And then last year he

859
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: got hurt you Week three in Kansas City at the end.

860
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 1: So he's just not played enough during the off season

861
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: because he had the surgery on the knee in early October,

862
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 1: they didn't clear him. He was just doing seven on seven.

863
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: He didn't really get you know, eleven on eleven until

864
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: training camp and he had the one bad preseason game

865
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: in Denver. He bounced back and played a good half

866
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 1: in Kansas City. But there's going to be a point

867
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: where he's going to get his rhythm. It's just not

868
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: there yet. So but their defense is strong and they

869
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 1: were able to win on Sunday. To spot, he made

870
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: a couple of big rows. The one to Richie James

871
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 1: Junor the out of the spot for the touchdown right

872
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: after the half was a great throw. I think he

873
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: missed like five or six pros. And when I'm seeing

874
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: Jimmy when he's right is highly accurate, I mean ten

875
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 1: point accurate. And I think he's been a little bit off.

876
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: Some of it's on him and some of it is

877
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: just the synchronicity with the wide receivers since he since

878
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 1: he has missed so much time and they got young receivers.

879
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 1: They got Marque's good when dealing Vet on this scene.

880
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 1: The other guys are really young, Like you guys said,

881
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty six yards passing the fewest passing

882
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: yards in any game. That he was a starter and

883
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 1: he had to pick six, you know, Winston had, but

884
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo had one as well. Tell us about that play?

885
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: Was that just a misread? What happened there? That was

886
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: really a bad play all the way around, And mean

887
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: just inexcusable for the veteran quarterback. And I know he's young,

888
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: but you know he was there with Brady and he's

889
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: watched enough football, you know, being a backup. But they

890
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,240
Speaker 1: did motioned Kevin Coleman out and they got a matchup

891
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: and Coleman, I think as an okay route runner as

892
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,479
Speaker 1: a back jerk. Mckinnedy's out the year is much better.

893
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: But they had Colemban motioned out and Tampa played his

894
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 1: own and they had Vernon Hargraves the corner out there,

895
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: and I think Jimmy Dave read it like it was

896
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: covered three. I thought he would stay on top. He

897
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: had a better matchup in the slot. He had Marquis

898
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: Goodwin against the linebacker. But for whatever reason, to the

899
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 1: long side of the field, the ball was on the

900
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: right Hash mark and he threw back across the entire

901
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 1: width of the field from hash to sideline at loose

902
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: and Hargraves just drove on the ball and it was

903
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: in the air too wrong. And Kevin Coleman actually hurt

904
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: his ankle on the first play of the game. When

905
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: you watch it, I think, you know, a more experienced

906
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: wide receiver or even Kevin if he's fully healthy, would

907
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: have gotten back and broken that ball up, and he

908
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: was late to transition and Hargraves just picked It was

909
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: a bad play. I mean, it was a really bad play.

910
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: But Jimmy was able to bounce back after that, making

911
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 1: up throws to win the game. Yeah. A couple more

912
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: questions for the voice of the forty nine is Greg

913
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,280
Speaker 1: Pop Greg, We're at a sports bar here in Cincinnati.

914
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 1: Game on sports bar. We got a couple hundred people

915
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: whether us probably a year ago at this time, there's

916
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 1: not a person in this room that had ever heard

917
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,919
Speaker 1: of George Kittle, and now he might be the best

918
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: tight end in the NFL. How did that happen? Well,

919
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: his rookie year, he had a lot of injuries and

920
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: he just played true I mean compad to, so he

921
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: had everything and his numbers were modest. And then at

922
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: the end of the year, Dan John Lynch the GM

923
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: and Kyle Shannon had the head coach challenged him and

924
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: he responded, I mean the guy ran a four to

925
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 1: five two forty out of Iowa. The only time. I

926
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 1: didn't know who he was at all, Like you, I

927
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: was watching CJ. Betack the forty nine is rapped Bentham

928
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: the third round that year, and I knew they grapped Kintle.

929
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: So I mean, I'm watching the quarterback, I'll take a

930
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: look at the tight end, and he was just mauling

931
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: people as an inline why blocker, I mean, he's just

932
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 1: trumping people bolt And then you know, I didn't know

933
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: he ran. He ran a four or five two and

934
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,399
Speaker 1: he blocks like that Jesus, And he's just I don't

935
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: know how if you heard interviews with him, but he

936
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 1: is a trip. He's a little bit like grump of

937
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 1: Youngbery's a lot of fun. He loves the game, and

938
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: I think now, I mean, going into this game, Deebo,

939
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: Samuel'll have a lot on his plate certainly in your game.

940
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: But I'm sure you guys got to think about doubling him.

941
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,720
Speaker 1: I mean you gotta, really, He's the guy that Jimmy

942
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 1: looks to, you know, like Rivers for years looks to

943
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: Gates and the Homes and Alex before when things got tight,

944
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: they looked at Kelsey. There's certain guys you got to

945
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: look to, especially on third down. Kittle's going to be

946
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: the guy. And I think, you know, with a lot

947
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: of injuries in the wide receiver room, Trent Taylor's sounds

948
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 1: the herds down, they're not going to play on Sunday.

949
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: You're almost looking at George Kittle as a detatch tight

950
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 1: end and more of a wide receiver than he is

951
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: a tight end. Zach Ertz, I know, well, I actually

952
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: saw him in high school play a lot of amount

953
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 1: of mister near my home and watched him at Stanford.

954
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: UH And Travis Kelson is just a great, great player,

955
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: but they don't block like this guy. I think when

956
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: you look at all components of tight end play. You

957
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: can make the point that George is the best tight

958
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: end and put football right now. Yeah, fifth round pick

959
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 1: out of Iowa. Because you're at tight end in Iowa.

960
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: You better block or you don't play. And so bobot Hopkinson, right,

961
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 1: and that guy, I mean, it's like, Okay, well, who

962
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 1: who's the tight end and has more receiving yards in

963
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: a single season than anybody in the history of football.

964
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 1: Oh no, not Bob Grontowski, not Gonzalez, not it's Kittle.

965
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 1: It's not in Kittle that eight hundred and seventy yards

966
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 1: after catch, which led the NFL any positions. So, I mean,

967
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 1: we're watching tape and he looks faster than me than

968
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: four or five too. He looks up four or five,

969
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: he's pulling away five. I mean, and it's like and

970
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: then and then you have a coach that can scheme

971
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: guys open, so well, he's he's wide open and he flies.

972
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,879
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy's unbelievable. Well he's dead at Shane

973
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: and Sharpe in Denver. I mean, they know what it's.

974
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,439
Speaker 1: You know how this thing works. It's an outside zone

975
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 1: and all the complimentary movement off of it and they're

976
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: constantly dragon tight end. But but George, she doesn't necessarily

977
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 1: be the first reading. You know, it's a it's a

978
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: layered level passing attack. He could be the second read

979
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: deeper downfield. He's just a tremendous player and he's a hoot.

980
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 1: The guy's got a great personality. I mean Jimmy because

981
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: he's a star on offense, and Joe Staley and then

982
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: Richard Sherman on defense. But I think it's time here.

983
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 1: If he continues to play and he stays healthy, you know,

984
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: George Kittle could be the face of this franchise. And

985
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 1: just for the record, Greg's father did not own the

986
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 1: Indiana Pacers. He got that job right out of college

987
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: by being that good. That's going to do it for

988
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: this episode of a podcast. If you haven't done so already,

989
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:51,320
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990
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991
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993
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: Dan Horde and thank you for listening to the Bengals

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