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Speaker 1: Welcome back, happy our listeners. Thank you for jointing us

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Speaker 1: another week, and thank you to my incredible co Hostasia

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Speaker 1: for joining me again. Girl. Of course, and we have

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Speaker 1: so much to talk about today because this last episode

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Speaker 1: was doozy. I like, there wasn't even that much to

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Speaker 1: talk about other than Greg. Though here's the thing, like

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Speaker 1: a lot went down, but it was really only with

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Speaker 1: one person, which I will say is unfortunate because it's

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Speaker 1: hometowns and we obviously met several families who were incredible,

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Speaker 1: but a lot of the episode and the drama and

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Speaker 1: the conversation was centric around Greg, which we will get into.

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Speaker 1: But before that, I just want to announce that we

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Speaker 1: have a great guest coming on today, somebody that you

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Speaker 1: have all asked for for a while now, and that

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Speaker 1: is mister Andrew Sill, who will be jointing us very shortly.

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Speaker 1: But Tasia, yes, let's get into last night because you

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Speaker 1: know you were there. You were part of this hometown week,

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Speaker 1: which was a little bit different than usual because instead

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Speaker 1: of meeting four families, we only met three, and most

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Speaker 1: of the first two seemed pretty straightforward. Correct. How was

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Speaker 1: she feeling this week? You know, this week she was

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Speaker 1: pretty nervous. And I think that we had that conversation

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Speaker 1: right before her going into hometowns, and it's just because

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Speaker 1: it's no longer just you and the guy. It's also

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Speaker 1: just wanted to make the right decision and have the

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Speaker 1: right guy's there. After having Blake and Justin's hometown, I

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Speaker 1: think she thought it went great. I think she was

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Speaker 1: very excited to meet Greg's family. And I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: lie being there the reason why I say it was

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Speaker 1: such a doozy though, but being there this week was

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Speaker 1: very heavy. Katie was coming off of a lot of

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Speaker 1: breakups and she was starting to get nervous, like if

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Speaker 1: some great guys left, but it was just like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: what if somebody else leaves, or what if I don't

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Speaker 1: So it was just it was really tough. It was

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Speaker 1: really tough for her. Well, it's so much more heightened.

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Speaker 1: This week is when, as you said, shit gets really

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Speaker 1: really real because you start to realize, Okay, it's not

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Speaker 1: you don't just marry that one person. You marry into

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Speaker 1: the families. And so I think she took it so seriously,

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Speaker 1: and it just adds this added layer of pressure because

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Speaker 1: And so it's a lot. Let me ask you this

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Speaker 1: because he always, since night won, he got the first

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Speaker 1: Then we see a switch and it seems like I'm

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Speaker 1: me as a viewer, this seemed like the first time

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Speaker 1: And you know, obviously, I'm sure that conversation went much

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Speaker 1: Like I feel so confident in us. She didn't obviously

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Speaker 1: you know, she had that cardinal role, like I'm not

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Speaker 1: But why couldn't she tell him that this is the thing.

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Speaker 1: think he was searching for anything Katie's words. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: He's like, I'm not looking for you to tell me,

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Speaker 1: So I completely understand that. But I think in that moment,

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Speaker 1: but even just to explain things more of like look

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Speaker 1: question her where he really which I appreciated. He kind

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Speaker 1: And the moment when she went and ran after him

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Speaker 1: So um Tasia, we just have to bring on our

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Speaker 1: without further ado, please welcome andrew S. Everybody, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Bachelor Happy Hour. You've you've been somebody we've been wanting

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Speaker 1: They were actually like, we'll put you guys extra if

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Speaker 1: I was like, what's going on? Is something wrong with me?

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Speaker 1: nothing's talking with you, but we're exciting to have you.

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Speaker 1: You've been somebody that all of our followers and listeners

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Speaker 1: for joining us today. So before we started recording, you

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Speaker 1: been brutal. And then I came straight into hanging out

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Speaker 1: I'm like limbs right now, just trying to sway again

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Speaker 1: around everyone. Okay, well, well this will be fun. We

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Speaker 1: book for this process and for being on a TV

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00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 1: show to go from you know, a random nobody, not

430
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,359
Speaker 1: even nobody, but just you know, like your typical yeah

431
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,639
Speaker 1: person too, going then being fast next thing. You know,

432
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 1: it's all coming in. You got love taking a love

433
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,680
Speaker 1: and obviously there's going to be negative comments. It's fine

434
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 1: or like some of the negative comments are just like

435
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 1: it's next level. People are like when you signed up

436
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 1: for this, and you're like, okay, I did, but not

437
00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 1: that you can't expect that because you know, I get

438
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 1: this you know platform or this you know ability to

439
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 1: have this kind of fame you want to call it.

440
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 1: Um doesn't Maybe the ability is just kind of shunned.

441
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 1: The level of criticism is gregeous. Yeah, I signed up

442
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 1: for love, not to be criticized. Yeah, it's a clear

443
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:22,879
Speaker 1: different Like you know, I didn't say that that's what

444
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 1: you sign up for. Its different love. The good thing

445
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 1: that you know, not that it's easy, but somebody is

446
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,920
Speaker 1: always doing something in a day or a week to

447
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 1: take the pressure off of you. There's always something going

448
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 1: on in Vaustra nation. So I know it probably seems

449
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 1: hard right now. UM, I promise you it will get easier,

450
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,120
Speaker 1: and you just kind of kind of ride the way.

451
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 1: And I love the interactions with people and obviously, um,

452
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:55,439
Speaker 1: Mike P just had an interaction that was amazing. UM. So,

453
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: like there's really good stuff that comes with being a

454
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,880
Speaker 1: bachelor or being on a bachelor where my p oh yeah,

455
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 1: um so someone reached out to him. Um, she was

456
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 1: struggling with cancer and she wanted to talk to Mike P.

457
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 1: Mike P talk to her, um, and it was a

458
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 1: really beautiful momentum he posted on his Instagram and I

459
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 1: got to briefly talk to her share the message with her.

460
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,880
Speaker 1: So honestly, like, there's just so much beauty that comes

461
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 1: out of it. But I don't want to focus on

462
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: the negatives because that's just like I said that, Yeah,

463
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 1: that's the stuff that I love. Right Well, okay, well

464
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,199
Speaker 1: we'll get away from the heavy stuff right now. We

465
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,400
Speaker 1: want to get into the more fun exciting because obviously

466
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 1: we saw you night one come out of the limo

467
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 1: you which I will say this, I'm kind of bummed

468
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 1: that you didn't come on the podcast like you did

469
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 1: Night one with the accent. Um, I've been getting a

470
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 1: lot of flat people say you use it too much.

471
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,439
Speaker 1: Really honestly liked it. Really, this is where you need

472
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 1: to stop with these people. He's doing it again, don't

473
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,399
Speaker 1: They can't do it, and they don't as well as

474
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,360
Speaker 1: you do. You were there, Tasia, I'm disappointed that they

475
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: didn't play my proposal. Yeah, that's the one waste. I

476
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 1: thought right there, it was the next level. Even I

477
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 1: was like, I'm sorry. Caitlin and I were looking at

478
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 1: each other like the hell our guys that are learned

479
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:27,199
Speaker 1: how to have an accent, it just hits in a

480
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 1: totally different way. Okay, So I don't know how you've

481
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 1: been doing the accent for but obviously, um you Okay,

482
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 1: do you currently I know that you did in the past,

483
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: but do you currently live in Vienna? Yes? Um so

484
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 1: the last three years, I've spent half my time in

485
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 1: Vienna and half my time in the States. So I

486
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,360
Speaker 1: originally was trying to come out and speak German. Germans

487
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,239
Speaker 1: just not the sexiest language in the world. So I

488
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,239
Speaker 1: had to I had to switch. Maybe like are you

489
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: yelling at me? What is going on? Like I had

490
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 1: like one of these germents, do our shoot the elgin

491
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: Um and that means like you have beautiful eyes that

492
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: I was going to do and they're just like, there's

493
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: not really, I'm sorry. So I was just like, you know,

494
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: I got I can do a British accident and um

495
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 1: that went way better. Well do you mean to Austria

496
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: a huge culture shock for you. I mean I don't

497
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: even know anyone that lives out there aside from you,

498
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 1: which I just met you, so it's not very often

499
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 1: that I meet someone that's in Austria, you know. And

500
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 1: my family we've just never really went anywhere, which a

501
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 1: bit of a box. So it's like you know, you

502
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: know your cousins who live maybe in South Carolina and

503
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 1: you just know you're back, like that was our vacation.

504
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: I was like all right, fine, um, and then now

505
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: I go to start flying over the world and like

506
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,919
Speaker 1: my family's like, well now I want to travel. So

507
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 1: it was definitely a culture shock. Um. You know, obviously

508
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: walking around and people don't speak English, trying to figure

509
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: it out. That's actually one of my favorite things though.

510
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: And my phone's always dead, so like walking around you

511
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: just kind of have to figure it out and just

512
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 1: kind of ask questions and you get to interact with people.

513
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: So I ask when I started to love being there?

514
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: Um when my phone would die and just be able to,

515
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,479
Speaker 1: you know, figure it out just being in a different country. Um,

516
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: it was super cool. Wait one last thing. You're with

517
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: team members right or were you by yourself when you

518
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 1: first moved. I mean you have one other import, so

519
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: there's some kind and all Austrian. So he just really

520
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: just made pretty good English. There's just a time where

521
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 1: they just start going off in German and you're just

522
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 1: like to figure out what they're saying. Aladed DUELINGO. So

523
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 1: I mean I do a little bit of German German speaking,

524
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: but it's not very good. So um, okay, before we

525
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 1: get into this season, so you obviously just mentioned family.

526
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,199
Speaker 1: You know they want to start traveling more with you.

527
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 1: But there is something that we can't miss because you

528
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: have a connection and Batchel nation in the family and

529
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: so which I feel like we're coming full circle now

530
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 1: because it was a guy for my season. So one

531
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 1: of my ex boyfriends is Andrew's cousin to all of

532
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 1: our listeners. If you don't remember mister Clay Harbor who

533
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 1: was on my season, Um did he kind of get

534
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: your foot in the door with the show or how

535
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: did like did he give you advice? Like give me

536
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: all the backgrounds between the two of you. Yeah. Um,

537
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 1: you know he likes to take credit for everything. Of

538
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: course he does nothing. I mean him him A group

539
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: of his friends, um that are also on The Bachelor.

540
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: I got to you know, know them. I started living

541
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: with Clay when um i'd come back from austreet. I

542
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 1: was like, hey, yeah, like getting my own place, like

543
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: can I stay with you? Um? And then we became

544
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: like best friends. And then I started hanging out with

545
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: like Joe and Dustin, so um, it's honestly like a

546
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: group effort. Those guys are like you need to be

547
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: on the show, and I was like I don't know.

548
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: And then like they put my name in and then

549
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: I got a call and it's like, did you want

550
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: to get in and show. I was like, oh, this

551
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: is this is really, this is real real, And I

552
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, well we'll go through the process. I

553
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 1: know the fact that you're friends with Joe. I love it. Yeah.

554
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: I saw I saw that you and Joe were together.

555
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, Joe, he's just the best. I'm glad

556
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: that It's nice though that you have people from this

557
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: world that have already gone through with, that are close

558
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: to you, that you already had some sort of friendship

559
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 1: with before, that you can lean on, because yeah, yeah,

560
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: like going back to what we're saying earlier, it's a scary,

561
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: crazy world that you just really can't plan for. So

562
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: I'm glad that you have them all there. Um. Getting

563
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: into this season night one, you come out of the limo,

564
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: you have the absent. Did you feel an instant connection

565
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: with Katie fresh out of the gate? Well, I mean

566
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: I knew from like watching you know, watching back or

567
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: watching whatever the thing was, that we're gonna we're gonna

568
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: hit it off. Um. I felt like she had a

569
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: Barris you know, personality, and that's who I am. I

570
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: come with energy, and that's just that's just like you know,

571
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, if you know, I

572
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: don't say something right or you don't make the right moves,

573
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: as long as I'm smiling and bring good energy, we're

574
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna be okay. Um. So like that's kind

575
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 1: of what it was. I was super nervous that night.

576
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: They're not gonna lie to you, um, And it was

577
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: really cold. So, uh, I was really nervous about how

578
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: my execution was gonna go with my first accident. Um,

579
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 1: but you know, I knew right away that you know,

580
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 1: we would connect on a you know, a very good level.

581
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: You're yeah, I think, well that didn't you say? I

582
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: don't know, you like held her hands when you were

583
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: up there with her, and I remember her saying, like,

584
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: you guys like connected in that moment. Yeah, I just

585
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: felt it was I don't know, we were. I feel

586
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: like every single time when we were with each other,

587
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: it felt just like us, Like yeah, what I mean,

588
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: you know, obviously you kind of become like a little

589
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: bit different just to you know, kind of eat yourself

590
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: into people. I don't think we ever had to do that.

591
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: We were just you know, one of her and us

592
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: the whole time. So it was that she made it

593
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: easier for me, and I feel like, you know, I

594
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: kind of made it easier for her. You seemed more

595
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: comfortable with each other than it felt like she was

596
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: with some guys. And maybe that's because you were charming,

597
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,479
Speaker 1: you were kind of funny with the accent. Because and

598
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: then you stopped the accident, She's like, wait, what, who's

599
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: this man, but it was a good ice breaker. Um.

600
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: We didn't see you get a one on one date

601
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: for a while. We obviously saw you go through a

602
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: few group dates before that couple did one on one.

603
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: Out of all those group dates, what one was your

604
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: favorite out of the group dates? UM, I don't know.

605
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: Oh the painting one for sure, waiting painting one was.

606
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: I think that was probably one of the funniest days. Um.

607
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: Obviously Blake's comments to self portrait, UM, probably still one

608
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: of the funniest things. I don't know, Like I said, Um,

609
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: coming on the show, I wanted to experience everything and

610
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: like do everything one hundred percent full. And obviously, you

611
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: know when Katie came out and doubled down on her,

612
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: she was like, take this seriously, do this. Like I

613
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: went to every group date like having fun, you know,

614
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: and I like, at the end of the day, like,

615
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna be dating this girl, like we're gonna

616
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: have to be around other people. We got to be

617
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: able to, you know, interact with other people and you know,

618
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: still kind of have affection with each other as well. Um,

619
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: because you know, I have a lot of friends that

620
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: I love to be around and I want, you know,

621
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: my girl to be around me as well, um, with

622
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: my friends. So I took. I was having a ball

623
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: like every every kind, every um, every date that we

624
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: went to. You know, I was just having so much

625
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: fun and I just was just present. And that's I

626
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,959
Speaker 1: think that I think she noticed that a little bit

627
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: as well. UM, like I wasn't really just like super

628
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: sad that she was talking to someone else, you know, Um, okay,

629
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: going into the group dates, there was one moment where

630
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: it probably wasn't ideal for you, where it wasn't all

631
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 1: fun and laughs, and that is when you and I

632
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: kind of went head to head and different views and

633
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: opinions on how everything with Katie should be approached. Looking back, now,

634
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: are you glad that you stoud firm? Do you wish

635
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: you would have handled things differently? Wait before you answer

636
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: this question, I have to say this like argument was

637
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: probably the first one that I've actually seen on I

638
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: don't know, on the show where I was like, I

639
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: can actually see both sides, and I don't know what's best,

640
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: which one I would appreciate more like as a lead

641
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: this conversation, and we know and I can, I can,

642
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: I can break it down right now. I mean I

643
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: need it because I feel like I could go both ways,

644
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: so please looking at it from my point of view,

645
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't see anything that was, you know, um,

646
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: important enough for her to be told. Obviously with the

647
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: Thomas thing, like he literally cleared the air in front

648
00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: of everyone he told her at that point, and I

649
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,239
Speaker 1: was like, well, she knows everything she needs to know.

650
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: That's her decision to make. And they were like talking

651
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 1: about their relationship with Thomas about how you know, um

652
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 1: he went back on a lie. I'm like, he doesn't

653
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: have to tell you anything, like he could lie to

654
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 1: you all he wants. He's not here for you, you

655
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And I was just like, and

656
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: I'm such a non drama guy when it comes to us.

657
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: I hate it, like I hate I hate that kind

658
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: of crap, and I hate like having to talk about

659
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 1: it like in person. I'm just like, can we be done?

660
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,879
Speaker 1: Like and you know him from Chicago, so we don't.

661
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 1: We don't talk about anyone else's like personal. He's stay

662
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: in your own lane. And I was getting a little

663
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: frustrated with because you know, people were losing time, and

664
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 1: I was like, if I lose time, I'm gonna be

665
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: real fissed, you know, and I'm like, Kerry made it

666
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: clear that she's got like a no, she's got she's

667
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: not fucking around her um so like she means business.

668
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: And I was like, all right, well, why are we

669
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 1: doing this knowing that she will shut it down? And

670
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: like we have a short amount of time, you know,

671
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: to make this a real thing. And that's that was

672
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: the only thing that was on my mind. And I

673
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 1: think the guys were. It kind of got to like

674
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 1: a voting off the island thing, and I was just

675
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: like not having that. It didn't matter about me and

676
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: Thomas relationship. We weren't close, Like I never really even

677
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: talked to him at all. Well at this point, I

678
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: was just like, if you go and you know, telling him,

679
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: someone's gonna lose time and I can be going home,

680
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: like and that's what I was trying to focus on.

681
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: They had other agendas. Did it seem like when you

682
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: and Trey were having this conversation, because it was on

683
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: the group date that the evening portion and other men

684
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: were around you both, did it seemed like any of

685
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: the guys were taking one side or over the other. Oh,

686
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: and I don't care, like I'm gonna be me. I'm

687
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: gonna be one thousand percent of me. Like, I'm not

688
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: going to compromise, so I him to bit in this

689
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: group or this click, you know what I mean, Like

690
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: I don't care. I was just like, hey, I know

691
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: that someone's gonna go home at the end of this,

692
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: and I don't want it to be me yet, And

693
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 1: I want to have every single second that I can

694
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: to make an impact on this woman, um, to maybe

695
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: create something, you know after the show and whatever. Oh

696
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna you know, compromise that at all. Yeah, well,

697
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 1: at this point, if everyone was against you and saying

698
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,959
Speaker 1: like oh kay they deserts, No, they're all obviously gonna

699
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: go tell her, so you could kind of sit back

700
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: and like she's gonna know what. I'm gonna enjoy my

701
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: time with her exactly. Um. And I know a lot

702
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: of the guys who went home were pissed because they

703
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: didn't get time, and I was like, this is what

704
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: you guys asked for. And we even came up with

705
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: a with a proposal for you know, Thomas to go

706
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: and talk to her in front of us, you know,

707
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: like confess. I'm like, that's that's way better. Like, all right,

708
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: we're all in the same room. We got our time.

709
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,919
Speaker 1: Thomas confessed, you know, we got you. There's nothing else

710
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: you can do, like and then he goes and dust

711
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: is still thing, and and now I things messed up.

712
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 1: So I was just like, are you usually this cool

713
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: as a cucumber? Or is this advice? Mister Clay Harbor

714
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 1: and Joe so much credit so much, I'm just trying

715
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: to crack playing Joe on the season. They weren't there, no,

716
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: I know, but I'm just asking. I still talk to

717
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: him a lot. Damn No, Joe went home after two hours. Okay, okay, wait,

718
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: you're right he probably shouldn't take any advice from them.

719
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: Yeah I will. I will say, though, Joe give some

720
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: of the best, most solid advice you know, even though

721
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 1: he was only around for twenty four hours of my season.

722
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 1: I would take Joe's advice for so many people. Just

723
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 1: what you want to do? Just screw it. At the

724
00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:02,760
Speaker 1: end of the day, who cares? What do you want

725
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: on my hands? I love I love him, Okay, I'm sorry,

726
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: moving on. His head's gonna get so big that we

727
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: were talking about him. I why are you talking about

728
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: Joe so much? On this podcast anyway. Okay, moving on

729
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: from the drama that we saw between you and Trede

730
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 1: that night, finally you get the one on one date,

731
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: and it was interesting going in because you were always

732
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: somebody that again she seemed so comfortable with into, but

733
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 1: she did mention she needs more, Like it seemed like

734
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,240
Speaker 1: there was that friendship that was there, but she needed

735
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:49,720
Speaker 1: more maybe passion if you will, which we did see

736
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 1: happen on that date. Obviously, we saw you open up

737
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: a lot more that evening. You guys had a really

738
00:38:56,200 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 1: really great conversation. How did you feel overall about that

739
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: date with her? Um? I think it had a little

740
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: bit of everything, and that's what I wanted to be

741
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: able to show her, Like that's that's every day dating me.

742
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: Like we're gonna be having laughs, werena have serious conversations,

743
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: We're gonna have romance. Um, And that's exactly what I

744
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: wanted out of that date. Um. You know, the conversations

745
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,280
Speaker 1: and the way she reacted to them, that was all.

746
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: It was all her, you know, it was just I

747
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: put it on a table and she just she ran

748
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: away with it completely. So I think the answers to

749
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: the discussions and you know, the reactions is what really

750
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: made the date goes so well, um right, And I

751
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: don't I wouldn't take any credit for that as well.

752
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: Like I think she she really killed it, and um,

753
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: you know, I just was just there to see if

754
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 1: she how she was going to read. You know, it's

755
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 1: like dating. It's literally like going on a date and

756
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 1: you know, treating like I just treated everything so real

757
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: and so natural. Um, because that's how I wanted it.

758
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: So if we're gonna get married after this, like I

759
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: wanted to, no, this is what the life is gonna

760
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: be every day. So um, you know I loved our

761
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: one on one date, um, and I definitely think it

762
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: really took off from there. For sure. It was fun.

763
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: It was a huge dated love that date. The elopes

764
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: hanging from the trees was like the cutest thing, and

765
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: then the balloons the room and the lovely lights. No,

766
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: I I think I was a little bit nervous because

767
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: my date didn't start for a while. I was really

768
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: nervous about that. But uh no, I think I had

769
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: the best date out of all the all the guys,

770
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: all the one on one, so maybe the might have

771
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: been the better one. I have a question, question one day, Andrew,

772
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: You'll get look at the dune buggy. Okay. So it

773
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: was so interesting because when you ended up going home,

774
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: I did not see that coming. I okay, I'm gonna

775
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: I will be honest. I thought you were top three

776
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 1: for the longest time, and so when everything played out,

777
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: I was like, wait, are you sure she'd got to say?

778
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: Andrew didn't say? Andrews saying for that reason, because I

779
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 1: thought you were sticking around and that could buy It

780
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: was gut wrenching. The next day, we see you go

781
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: in and you have this extra time, this special moment

782
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: with Katie. You decide to give her that letter. What

783
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: originally drew you to do that for her? And first

784
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: I want to defend Katie. I don't think you guys

785
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: most people heard within like our sit down right before

786
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: I left. She explains that she didn't want to, you know,

787
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: meet my mother and my sister, and you know, knowing

788
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: that she has stronger relationships with other people, Like if

789
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 1: you really think about it, I don't want to say

790
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: anything against any other guy. But it's like she already

791
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 1: knew that it wouldn't go that far. Like why I

792
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: put my family through that and myself through that. So

793
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: I thought it was kind of like, really, you know,

794
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: shoulders that she you know, would think of me that

795
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: far ahead, and you know, kind of just like, hey,

796
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to put you through even

797
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 1: more um like dragging through this um. But I know

798
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 1: there's something there. But it's just you know, I know

799
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: there's other people with strong relationships, and you know, I

800
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 1: really respected that. Like I said, Katie and I have

801
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: just like a real real connection. We can just be

802
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,280
Speaker 1: straightforward with each other all the time. UM. But the note,

803
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: uh yeah, UM that was like I like her running

804
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: down barefooted down the stairwell, like probably one of the

805
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: most breathtaking moments in my life. I had no idea

806
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 1: that was happening. Um. You know when I wrote the

807
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: letter or the note, UM, I was definitely talking about

808
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: um after a show. So it's like, hey, you know,

809
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,240
Speaker 1: you don't find your man here. UM, I can definitely

810
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: be open to you know, trying this again. You know,

811
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: it's it's already easy. We you know, we know each

812
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: other's heart, we know each other. It just makes sense,

813
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Then starting all the way

814
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: over with someone else, you know what I mean, Like

815
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: it'd be like a shortcut, right, So I was like,

816
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: I'd definitely be down for that, um, you know, and

817
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: you know a lot of people were a little bit

818
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: confused by it, but no, that's one thousand percent of

819
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: what I meant. And you know, I just couldn't do

820
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: the show, you know, I mean, like, go one more

821
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 1: row ceremony, like for what sent home again, like you know,

822
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 1: go to Fantasy Sweets for what you know, I think

823
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: of it a little bit. Well, I'll tell you why

824
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: the Fantasy Suitets didn't. I didn't want to, you know,

825
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: go through that, but uh, you know, I just you know,

826
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: I wanted to stay true myself as well, and you know,

827
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: kind of respect my you know, I wasn't chosen and

828
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,280
Speaker 1: that's fine. Wait, okay, I need to say this because

829
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:50,760
Speaker 1: you said something in that last moment that I loved

830
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: I was and I don't want to botch exactly what

831
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: you said, but it was along the lines of, well,

832
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,399
Speaker 1: you know, I want to be chosen and then this moment,

833
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: I don't feel chosen and said that's why I had

834
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: to say no, which I thought was so beautiful. And

835
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 1: I know I will say this. I think a lot

836
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 1: of the viewers were confused because they saw you give

837
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,879
Speaker 1: that note to her of you know, but like, yeah,

838
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: really like chose me, you know what? Right, he was

839
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: like all right, let's leave, let's leave, right, all right,

840
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,919
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But that wasn't the case.

841
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: It would come back on the show. I was like, yeah, no,

842
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: I can't do that, especially in New Mexico. I was

843
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: really dumb with New Mexico, right yea, yeah, I was

844
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 1: trying to get out of there. I was like me

845
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: home now to leave. You get in that black car

846
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: and the teas are I need to go? Yeah, get

847
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: me out of here. But I actually really liked how

848
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: you handled it, and because I feel like it would

849
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,919
Speaker 1: have been so easy for almost anyone if the lead

850
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: was running after them and saying like do you want

851
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: to stay to be like okay, yeah, like let's just

852
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 1: stick around and still see. And so I actually liked

853
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: that moment. Didn't if I if I told you I

854
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 1: I didn't go through it before. You know, I've been

855
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: in that situation where I went back to that X

856
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and you know it just

857
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: was like oh you know, oh, well, you know what

858
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: I mean. So I've had that kind of heartbreak, and

859
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: I I understand, like, all right, when when when the

860
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: call quits, when it's done or you know what I mean,

861
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: when you can read spark it, you know what I mean.

862
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: So in that moment, it was not a good time

863
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: for me. Um, there's no way that you know, without

864
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 1: even thinking in the back of my head that you know,

865
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: you just sent me home that I was going to

866
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: be you know, capable to you know, just kind of

867
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 1: move past that on the show, and you know, just

868
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: knowing that her connection with Greg and you know and

869
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: and Blake was just so apparent. Um. Yeah, so I

870
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 1: knew that I you know, I couldn't really I couldn't

871
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 1: win there. So I was just you know, I was

872
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: okay with it. And I'm okay, it's okay to not

873
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,919
Speaker 1: be chosen. You don't have like the world's not over,

874
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: you know. It just means you're going to find the

875
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: right one center, you know, just you know that just

876
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: wasn't a person for you at the time. So, um,

877
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: you know, I've gotten really good with you know, breakups,

878
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: so I know how to end them on good notes.

879
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 1: I'm not a you know, crazy ex boyfriend or anything

880
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: by any measures. Um, And I don't want to have

881
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: a crazy ex girlfriend, so I want to make sure

882
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: that if that is one of the things that happens,

883
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: we're cool. Quote on the podcast, everyone We're still cool.

884
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, no, I appreciate that. Um So, speaking of cool,

885
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: wet cool, you at mental all. You seemed great with

886
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: all the guys. It seemed good with Katie. Obviously, Tatia

887
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 1: was there to host it, and again it did a

888
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: phenomenal job. Girl, How was it being back there? Don't

889
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: take my compliment, honestly, Honestly, you guys build it, you guys.

890
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 1: I wasn't there. Don't you guys, and not Taia. You

891
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: guys did in a phenomenal job. I think you guys

892
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: were hilarious the whole time and super light. I thought,

893
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 1: you guys, I think that's what the show needed. I

894
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: think the Bachelorette needs women. Uh yeah, yeah so do

895
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 1: I No, it was, it was. It was great and

896
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 1: I think that we were both I think we also

897
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: can relate to you guys too, being in those yeah

898
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: seats and revisiting all those feelings, all kind of stuff.

899
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: So it was it was really fun to be being

900
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: able to interview you guys and talk to you guys

901
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: and have the hot seats, So thank you. I appreciate that. Yeah,

902
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 1: no problem. How was being back with all the guys

903
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 1: because that was the first time obviously since you said

904
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: a boy to Katie, since filming. So what was that like? Um,

905
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: you know it was it's you know, it's like he

906
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: never lost a step, you know, and you come back

907
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: and it's right back in the place with the same

908
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: guys and Katie. You know, it was. It was a

909
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,720
Speaker 1: little bit different seeing Katie obviously, you know, like I said,

910
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 1: to break up on nothing but goods and you know,

911
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:04,280
Speaker 1: stream highs. It's it's weird. Why did we just stop

912
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,439
Speaker 1: out of nowhere? So that was something that was really tough,

913
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: just seeing her up there and she's glowing so, um,

914
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 1: pretty nervous. He's probably married, are engaged. Oh my gosh,

915
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: I was super nervous. Um uh, it's I didn't know

916
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 1: how to react. I saw her come out and she

917
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 1: looked great. I was like, oh, all right, this is

918
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: yeah again. Wait did any did any old feelings get

919
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: stirred up? And when you're in those in that moment

920
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 1: where you see her again, absolutely you're like, oh I

921
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: remember her. It's a little while, but I remember you that.

922
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 1: That's literally how it is, though, like everything comes rushing back.

923
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I know it's been like a little bit

924
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: longer from you know, the show for the flash air, Um,

925
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: but no, I was. It's like it comes fluttering back

926
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 1: really fast. Do you feel like you got the closure

927
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 1: that you needed with her? Uh in talking to her

928
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 1: or do you feel like you would have that before

929
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:11,240
Speaker 1: coming to mental I think I definitely got the closure

930
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: I needed. Um, you know, just from when we first left,

931
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 1: um too, you know, obviously having the time to stew

932
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: on it and um, you know, like that little conversation

933
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: that we had, you know, I just you know that

934
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: mutual respect is there. Um, That's that's all I needed

935
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,240
Speaker 1: to know. And um, you know, she's a good person.

936
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: And I'm sure we'll our pass will cross at some

937
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 1: point and we'll get to hang out and um, you know,

938
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: if I'm allowed around, I mean I would definitely, you know,

939
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: be able to hang out with her, that's for sure.

940
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna be good friends for a while. Good.

941
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: What is one of the things that you learned most

942
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 1: about yourself going through the season. Um, I'm gonna I'm

943
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: super dramatic you are, oh my, like like within like

944
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 1: lovey dovey ways. It was just like god, like you're out,

945
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: you're crying. I didn't know that, you know, like the

946
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: show like brings Up, you know, a certain man out

947
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: of you or certain like emotional man. You know, sensitive,

948
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: that's what that's the word. I'm sensitive. I realized I

949
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: was way more sensitive than I thought I was. Um

950
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: And I'm not mad at at that came out. You know,

951
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 1: I feel so much better knowing that I can just

952
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: be able to express my feelings now without you know,

953
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 1: having to think I tough or you know, thinking I'm

954
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: a sent or something like that. That's what the word

955
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: gets are using these days. Uh, I don't really, I

956
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 1: don't really care about that. You know. I was able to,

957
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 1: you know, be myself one hundred percent. And you know,

958
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 1: if I like someone, I'm gonna I'm gonna treat them

959
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 1: like I like them. I don't want to say the

960
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 1: things that I want to say because you know, that's

961
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: how I feel. I feel like now in days, like

962
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: people are afraid to say what they say because they

963
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: don't want to ye be too much or they like

964
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 1: him too much. It's just the weirdest thing in the

965
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: world to me, and I I feel like, you know,

966
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: being on a show, I definitely figured out very sensitive

967
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 1: and you know, very in tune with my feelings, and

968
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: I didn't think I was. Well. I don't want to

969
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 1: speak for all women out there, but most of us

970
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: like that. We find it in a man of very

971
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 1: attractive quality. So I'm glad that you were able to

972
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 1: get to that point and hopefully in the future just

973
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: feel more comfortable opening up and sharing more of the

974
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: emotions and the feelings because you know, we we as women,

975
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: need to hear that shit sometimes. So yeah, no, I'm

976
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: I love that answer. Um. Overall we ask all of

977
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: our guests this before we kick it off, but overall

978
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: throughout the entire season, and it can be wild filming

979
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 1: or just watching it back. What was your thorn and

980
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: what was your rose? My woe was definitely just being

981
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: sent home. That was probably the worst part his real

982
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 1: life heartbreak. Like I had to go straight to my

983
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 1: hotel room like, yeah, this sucks, um, and then you

984
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: sit there and you know, kind of contemplate everything and

985
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 1: just like I can't believe, like I just went through

986
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 1: all of this, and then you know, it's it's all done.

987
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 1: So I think that was my love. I think, you know,

988
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: just being sent home and having to have heartbreak like

989
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:22,439
Speaker 1: that sucks. Um. I think the best part was being

990
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: able to you know, have friendships like my two best

991
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: friends now or like Justin and Greg loved them to death,

992
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: and you know, meeting the other guys and you know,

993
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: obviously forming a romance with Katie. UM like that. Those

994
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 1: are those are things that I love and I had

995
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: an absolute, you know, great time being on a show

996
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,760
Speaker 1: because of that. Already, Andrew, it was so great having

997
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: you on. Thank you so much for being here today.

998
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 1: It was this was great. This was super fun. Thanks Andrew,

999
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 1: Bye bye. I'm glad that we were able to have

1000
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 1: him on. I'm glad that he was able to address

1001
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 1: obviously some things he probably didn't want to talk about.

1002
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: But having this platform to kind of say any apologies

1003
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,800
Speaker 1: and make amends and to move forward, I think is

1004
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: always great for anyone. So he's he seems like such

1005
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 1: a he's so chill and like just a sweetheart. He

1006
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 1: like he keeps it right here, but like he obviously

1007
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: has fun, but he's just not oh too much and

1008
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: he's not too little. He's like he's like the right

1009
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: him out. He actually reminds me a lot of Clay.

1010
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: He reminds me a lot of Clay. He does. Like

1011
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: they're just very even tempered, and maybe it's the athlete

1012
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: and then where obviously they both played football and they're

1013
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 1: used to like things being so extreme and heightened that

1014
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: when they're just in their daily life, they just kind of,

1015
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: you know, like, yeah, nothing, chill out. But it was

1016
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 1: fun to have him on. I know he was somebody

1017
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:50,919
Speaker 1: that a lot of our listeners wanted to hear from.

1018
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: Would you say, though, because I mean, you obviously know

1019
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 1: all of the guys moving to New Mexico. Was he

1020
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: like the Andrew that we see here today that we

1021
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: just everyone? Was he the same guy that you saw

1022
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 1: on Katie season? Oh? Hands down. In fact, I always

1023
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,839
Speaker 1: loved when we were hosting a date and he was there,

1024
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: just because he just brought so much levity and the

1025
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 1: guys were always laughing and giggling around him, and so

1026
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 1: it just kind of made it more fun because, like

1027
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: you know, like you saw even Grag like just getting

1028
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 1: in his head in the group date situations, and sometimes

1029
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: it takes a little bit for people to come out

1030
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 1: of their shell. But when everybody's like kind of just

1031
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:32,439
Speaker 1: like laughing and having good time, like it really helped

1032
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 1: the situation. So Andrew was definitely that one person that

1033
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: kind of just lifted everybody's spirits and was just super

1034
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 1: super super kind and sweet and the accent got me

1035
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: every damn. I mean it's good. It was good. Yeah,

1036
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: it's good. It was definitely a fun soul to be around. Yeah,

1037
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: he seemed like he was good moral for the house.

1038
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 1: So I'm glad that we were able to have him

1039
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 1: on today. So huge thinks to Andrew and and even

1040
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,760
Speaker 1: bigger things to all of our Bachelor Happy Our listeners.

1041
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 1: We love you, guys, and we I just want to

1042
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: thank you for hanging in with us each and every

1043
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: week and being so incredible. If you don't follow us

1044
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 1: on social media, you can do so at Bachelor Happy

1045
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: Hour on Instagram and at Batch Nation pods on both

1046
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 1: Facebook and Twitter. And as always, please don't forget to

1047
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 1: subscribe to our podcasts. You can do that on Apple Podcasts, Spotify,

1048
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: the wonderre app or wherever joy listening to us right now,

1049
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: have a good one everyone. Bye,