1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. Everybody. 2 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: What's going on, DJ, and bucking back on move the 3 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: sticks as we power through the summer and uh Buck. Fortunately, 4 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: the NFL world is giving us some things to talk about, 5 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: and they always they always give us stuff to talk about, 6 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: like the stuff that is happening DJ. I'm gonna be 7 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: honest with you, like part of when you get into 8 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: the scouting business and you get into it is because 9 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: it's not as volatile as the coaching business. But I'm 10 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 1: beginning to think that dead little narrative death belief, Yeah, 11 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: I don't think that exists anymore, doesn't exist with the 12 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 1: stuff it's perhaps, Oh my gosh, I just have never 13 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: seen the volatility at the general manager, player personnel positions. 14 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: That's supposed to be a stabilizing position of position where 15 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: you're thinking long range and so when you're in a 16 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: team building you're thinking about how can I build this 17 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: team that in and win and sustain it over time. Man, 18 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 1: the way you keep swapping out guys at the top, 19 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: it just makes it very very hard to be able 20 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: to sustain it, no doubt. And we're gonna get into 21 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: that the NFL has seen two general managers lose their 22 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: job after the draft, which is something that doesn't normally happen. 23 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: We're gonna touch on those two situations there with the Jets, 24 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: as well as what recently went down with the Houston Texans. UH, 25 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: talking about Carson Wentz and his new contract. What does 26 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: that mean going forward for the rest of these quarterbacks 27 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: searching for some new money. Bucky had an interesting scouting 28 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: trip that he's returned from, so we're gonna get some 29 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: feedback from Buck there on that trip. We have a 30 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: great conversation. You're gonna enjoy this, uh if you enjoy 31 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: the team building aspect, and that's something we always talked 32 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,199 Speaker 1: about here on the movie Sticks podcast. You can incorporate 33 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: this not only as a football fan and learn more 34 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: about it from that standpoint, but you can take some 35 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: of these lessons into your job, into the workforce. UH. 36 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: It can help you there. Because we're gonna talk with 37 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: Tom to LESCo. General managers built one of the most 38 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: talented rosters there with the Chargers, and then after that, Buck, 39 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: we talked about players stocks that were buying. UH, we're 40 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: gonna get into team stocks were buying that because I 41 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: think there are a ton of teams that you have 42 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: to be excited about based on what they've been able 43 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: to do in the offseason. When you put all of 44 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,679 Speaker 1: the things together, the draft, free agency, and how their 45 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: young players are developed, me out of optimism, not optimism 46 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:25,119 Speaker 1: in the league. Absolutely. Uh. Let's start off first here. 47 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 1: The New York Jets have a new general manager. It 48 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: is Joe Douglas. This is uh not a surprise to 49 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: many folks. It was long presumed that Joe was gonna 50 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: be the number one target there for the Jets. He's 51 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: worked with Adam Gates there in Chicago for a year 52 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: when Joe was a director of college scouting before he 53 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: moved over to Philadelphia. They move on from Mike mccagnet. 54 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,679 Speaker 1: I know they talked to a bunch of different candidates, 55 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 1: but they got their guy. And to me, the most 56 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: interesting thing about the whole story, and I can, you know, 57 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: tell the folks more about Joe has that worked with 58 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 1: him and know him for twenty years? Uh, maybe not 59 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: that long. How many years? Sixteen seventy years? Anyways, we 60 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 1: know each other for a very long time. So I 61 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 1: can feel feel the focus in a little bit more 62 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: about Joe, But I thought from from our perspective on 63 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: this side of things, Buck, the interesting thing was not 64 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: the money that Joe got. It was the years. When 65 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: you have a head coach on a four year contract 66 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: and now you bring a general manager on in a 67 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: six year contract, as it was reported. Um, I think 68 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: that tells us a little something. Well, I think it 69 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: tells us a lot. I think that was probably one 70 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: of the biggest things that you you want to negotiate 71 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 1: and haggle over if you're a general manager, you don't 72 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: want to be tied to the coach. Um. We've seen 73 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: how that necessarily goes. When the coach goes, then the 74 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: general manager goes. You want as the general manager, you 75 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: want to have the opportunity to if it's not going 76 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: the right way on the field in terms of the 77 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: way the players are developing, the way the team is performing, uh, 78 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: between the lines, you want to have the opportunity to 79 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: bring in your own coach. And so, because Adam Gates 80 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: is already there, Joe d wants to have the opportunity. 81 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: They look, if it doesn't go the way that everyone 82 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: wants it to go, you want to have the opportunity 83 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: to be able to find somebody that can fix it 84 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: and do it more so in your vision. So is 85 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: just a little protection to make sure that you have 86 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: an opportunity to kind of build this program the right 87 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: way for those that are wondering if you're a Jets 88 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: fan and what you're getting here in Joe Douglas, I 89 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: tweeted tweeted out a little bit about him and said, 90 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: my cliff notes there, it's just hey, look, he's very detailed, 91 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: he's very smart. Uh, he's organized, He's an outstanding evaluator. 92 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: One of the best things I can say about Joey 93 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: doesn't have an ego. You know, he's He spent fifteen 94 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: years with the Baltimore Ravens learning under Ozzy Newsom, and 95 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 1: that's one of the things I took away from Ozzy 96 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: two things. Number One, he didn't have an ego. Number Two, 97 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 1: he's a great listener. And Joe has has both those 98 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: qualities that are gonna serve him well there with the 99 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: Jets now in terms of team building and stylistically what 100 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: he wants to do. Joe was an offensive lineman. Joe 101 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: believes and the trenches offensively, defensively, and I think if 102 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: you look at this Jets team. Um, the reason why 103 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: there was a change there was a failure to get 104 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: that offensive line where it needed to be. And I 105 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 1: imagine that will be the first focus there for Joe 106 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: as he goes into the next offseason, UH to get 107 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: the offensive line where it needs to be and get 108 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: the defensive line, continue to add reinforcements. They've got some 109 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: nice pieces there and that defensive front with Leonard Williams 110 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: now Quentin Williams. But he's gonna throw reinforcements at the 111 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. That's who he is, That's what he 112 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: believes in, and that's what you can expect going forward. Oh, 113 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: I think you have to be strong up front. I 114 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: think when you look at today's game and you've seen 115 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: the best teams of the teams, that are the guys 116 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: that can impose their will on both sides of the 117 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. And so when you're looking at the 118 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: New York Jets and you're looking at what they have 119 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: on their roster deck, crown jewels as the quarterback in 120 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: Sam Donald. So if you want to do everything in 121 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: your power to protect him, yes, you need to surround 122 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: him with playmakers, but you also need to make sure 123 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: that you have a rock solid offensive line in front 124 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: of him. Knowing Joe's background, knowing how he wants to 125 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 1: be rough and rugged at the point of attack, they 126 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: have to do a better job of investing in that 127 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: offensive line, making sure that they have premier players at 128 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: the point of attack, and then also knowing the background. 129 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 1: We saw what Philadelphia was able to do when they 130 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl. They able to throw waves of 131 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: the defensive linemen and pass rushers at the quarterback. You've 132 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: seen what Baltimore has been able to do traditionally, their 133 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: defensive front, their front seven, their front four, being able 134 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: to consistently get after the passer. We know that a 135 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: lot of their focus and emphasis will be on fortifying 136 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 1: the trenches, making sure that they can can kind of 137 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: play the rough and tumble ball that is necessary to 138 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: win the a f C. East. I did find it 139 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: kind of funny, uh Buck, and that you know, look, 140 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, you could go higher. I mean, look, 141 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: if if Bill Walsh was still living and you hired 142 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: him as a head coach tomorrow, there'd be a crowd 143 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 1: of people on Twitter that would tell you everything that's 144 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: wrong with Bill Walsh and he just had great players, 145 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: had nothing to do with him. People always looking to complain. 146 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: So this complaint that I've seen on social media I 147 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: gotta kick out of was if you look at the 148 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles draft over the last few years, they only 149 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: have this many starters and they've been very average, blah 150 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 1: blah blah. And I'm saying, you know, you know why 151 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: you're a great organization. And having come from where Joe 152 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: came from, and I was there and sought firsthand, is 153 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 1: you can draft Torrel Sugs when you have two big 154 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: time pass rushers already on your roster. He doesn't have 155 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: to start right away because you draft the best player available. 156 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: You can go draft Todd Heap when you have Shannon Sharp. 157 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: So after a year you say, oh no, Todd Heap 158 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: didn't start a game, You didn't even start a game. 159 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: That's a that's a misspick. Like they're gonna say it 160 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: was Dallas Goddard a misspick, because I think Dallas Goddard's 161 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: gonna be an outstanding pro. But they already had Zach Ertz, 162 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: Derek Barnett, you already had Brandon Graham and a whole 163 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: host of defensive lineman there all I know is you're 164 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: getting the playoffs, he was making big time plays. You're 165 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: good organizations because you have roster depth and your young 166 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: guys don't have to fill big time roles early on. 167 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: So I find that criticism to be kind of funny. Yeah, 168 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: I think it is kind of funny. I think also 169 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: a lot of the criticism when it comes to the draft, 170 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: I think is overblown. I know, like we're in the 171 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: business of talking about the draft and discussing it, but 172 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: let's be honest, it's a first and second round league. 173 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: You have to hit on your first round picks, and 174 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: you need to be very very solid on your second 175 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: round picks. Anything beyond that is really gravy. And if 176 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: you ask any executive when they talk about their third, fourth, fifth, 177 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: sixth round pick, they typically don't have high aspectation that 178 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: those guys are gonna come and be blue level starters. 179 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: If they are, it is either because they had character 180 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: concerns which leading or or it was literally just to 181 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: miss the league missed on the player. But you have 182 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: to evaluate rosters on what they're able to do in 183 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: the first round, and really the second round beyond that 184 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: is really a crapshoot. And so I think so much 185 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: of what we hear about when it comes to evaluating 186 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: rosters and that stuff. People talk about, Oh, what they 187 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: didn't get a fourth round pick or whatever, those guys 188 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,719 Speaker 1: are coin flips anyway, really focused on what they did 189 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: in the early rounds, those guys that are your foundational pieces. Yeah, 190 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: And to keep that kind of theme alive. If everything 191 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 1: goes according to plan, Andre Dillard, the Eagles first round 192 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: pick this year, You're not gonna play much this year either. No, like, 193 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: because you draft the best available player. It's for the future, 194 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: and that's what it is. It is really about best 195 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: player of lable. And I know you were like your 196 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: you know your team needs to kind of match up 197 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: with what the supply is. But you can never go 198 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: wrong when you take good players because it only elevates 199 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 1: the talent on your roster. It gives you an opportunity 200 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: to eventually spin off some of those things that you 201 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: have a surplus of to get bad what you need 202 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: down the road. All right, before we get to this 203 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: Texans situation here, last thing, we'll put a bowl on 204 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: it there um with Joe Douglas and the Jets, I 205 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 1: do want to encourage Jets fans on this on this 206 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 1: one because a lot of times we've talked about it 207 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: a bunch in here in the draft room when you're 208 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: with your scouting buddies, could be on the road, could 209 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: be in your own building. Um, you can have a 210 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: pretty heated debate, you know, about this guy versus that guy, 211 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: and sometimes you need to let it play out and 212 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: see who's right and who's wrong. And I look, I've 213 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: never been shy about it. You haven't been shy about it. 214 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: We talked about our missus. Um, guys, we got wrong. 215 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: And there's one point in time where me and Joe 216 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: uh I had Uh. I think I might have been 217 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: even by myself on this one. And you'll realize why. 218 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: There's there's a couple of guys in the Raven scouting 219 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: room and we got pretty heated and it went back 220 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 1: and forth and went over text messages and then over time, Uh, 221 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: it's it's become a knockout blow. There's no question I 222 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: was wrong on this one and they were right. Because 223 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: early two thousand's Buck we had a discussion Chevy Chase 224 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: versus Bill Murray, and I went team Chevy Chase. I 225 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: went hard with Chevy Chase. I had the vacations on 226 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: my side. I like the vacation movies is great. One S, 227 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: three amigos. I mean I had I felt I had 228 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 1: a pretty strong fletch. Are you kidding me? Fletch came 229 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: out of box strong, strong, strong, and then um really 230 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: really a fade there, and Bill Murray came back with 231 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: more life and Bill Murray started still spitting out good 232 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: ones and eventually had Sometimes as an evaluate you have 233 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: to throw your hands up and say, Okay, I got 234 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: that one wrong. So that's the kind of judgment you 235 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: have there from your new general manager. I think Jets 236 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: fans out of feel good about that hit. We woun 237 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: have hits and misses on on actors and comedians and 238 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: all of the If he goes beyond the prospects when 239 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 1: you listening to move the sticks, we well give you 240 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: a little bit of everything, a little pop culture. We 241 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:05,599 Speaker 1: can go deeper, We can go deeper. Alright, give me 242 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: your thoughts here on what went down with the Texas man. 243 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: I I have no idea like this is crazy because 244 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: like we've seen this happen twice where Bill O'Brien has 245 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: been able to win a power struggle I guess, and 246 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: he's kind of liked it. I mean, the Lord of 247 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: the Rings, he's able to get whatever he wants done 248 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: despite what some people will say just an average record, 249 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: an average production and performance from his team. But evidently 250 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien and Brian games T had have fallen out. 251 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,719 Speaker 1: Uh didn't necessarily see even though the Texas are coming 252 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: off the season where they were eleven and five, they 253 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: have a high young quarterback into Shaun Watson. They have 254 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: a very very talented roster, particularly when you look at j. J. 255 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: Watt and Jadevion Clowney, Uh, some of the other pieces 256 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: that they have in place. But for whatever reason, Bill O'Brien, 257 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 1: Brian gang they're not seeing the game the same way. 258 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: And so Brian Gaine is out, even though he still 259 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: has what three years left on his deal. Uh that 260 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: he just was five years. I mean that me talking 261 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:04,079 Speaker 1: about less than I you're talking about a year into it. 262 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 1: And so I mean, this is a big surprise. This 263 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: is a major shake up. And so we'll see they've 264 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: already interviewed Ray Farmer, They've interviewed Martin Mayhew, which Peter 265 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: Schreeger Our Peter Schreeger recently reported, Well, man, I think 266 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: you might have a tough time getting somebody to take 267 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: this job, just because we've seen the volatility that has 268 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: occurred over the last two years. A couple thoughts on 269 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: this um. The first thought from me is we usually 270 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 1: talk about, you know, a championship window closing. We used 271 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: to we used to do this back in the day 272 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 1: of Okay, your quarterbacks getting up there in his mid thirties, 273 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: that windows closing. There is urgency, there's pressure, you've got 274 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: to win right now. And then it's kind of flipped 275 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: to where when you have a young quarterback who's so 276 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: cheap um, there's pressure on you during that five year 277 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: period where you've got a cost controlled quarterback to go 278 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: for it. And we've seen it, We've talked about it 279 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: a billion times on here what the Eagles did, what 280 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: the rams of on building around that quarterback that started 281 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: with the Seattle Seahawks with Russell Wilson. So having some 282 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: urgency to build this thing with that young quarterback. Well, 283 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: now what this is going into year three here with 284 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, who's one of the most talented young quarterbacks 285 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: we have in the league. I think this to me 286 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: shows there is some emergency with this organization. We need 287 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: to win right now. And in the context of this division, 288 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts, Uh, that was just the beginning for 289 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: them last year. They have done a wonderful job under 290 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: Chris Ballard of building up this roster. They've got an 291 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: immensely talented quarterback and Andrew Luck and that machine. The 292 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: money that they have, you know they have are plenty 293 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: of money, plenty of money. So so that team is 294 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: is coming up. You've got the Jacksonville Jaguars, who uh 295 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: stumbled last year, but extremely talented. The Tennessee Titans are 296 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: not an easy that's not an easy opponent. They're gonna 297 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: be you know, they've been stuck in that nine win range. 298 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: But it's a good opponent. So where this division is 299 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: where the quarterback is? This move to me, with four 300 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: years left on a general manager's contract speaks to urgency 301 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: and buck. You know, maybe I'm crazy, but I'll be 302 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: shocked if this is not somebody from the New England tree. 303 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 1: They've tried going in different directions. Uh, monti astin for 304 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 1: it's somebody we know really well. Uh. There with the Patriots, 305 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: one of the bright young guys uh in the league, 306 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: and we'll see if they can never probably nexces Sario 307 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: out from under Bill Belichick. I don't know if they 308 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: ad to get him, but to me, it points towards 309 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: somebody with a close connection to Bill O'Brien. How about 310 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: Scott Pioli. Scott Pioli recently resigned. Yeah, there's another one, 311 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons. He obviously knows the Patriot way. He 312 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: has done a really good job. He's kind of changed 313 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: his personality and the way that he is perceived to 314 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: be in the media. He could be a guy who 315 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: steps in and gives Bill O'Brien the structure that he 316 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: wants in terms of maybe trying to recreate some of 317 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: the things that they were able to do in New England. 318 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: I would keep an eye on him. I think the 319 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: big thing Bill O'Brien is is, look, he's on the clock. 320 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: He's on the clock in terms of like he has 321 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: all the power. He is the one that is really 322 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: kind of making this move happen. And so you have 323 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: to see more wins, more production. And we've seen them 324 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: win and get into the playoffs, but then we need 325 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: to see them win in a major way because you're right. 326 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: Their urgency is there because Deshaun Watson is on his 327 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: rookie deal and we're seeing how these deals are coming 328 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: up with a new CB, a who knows how much 329 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: money to quarterback will command, and it's going to be 330 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: challenging to continue to build your team when your quarterback 331 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: is commanding so much of the sauther cap pie. Yeah, 332 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: and we talked about the urgency to win right now, 333 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: and that's gonna be fascinating to watch what happens with 334 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: Jadevan Clowney. Um. As a little aside there, we'll see. 335 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: I know last year we saw Khalil mack Um get 336 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: traded obviously very late into the process. Um. I I 337 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: just wouldn't sleep on that. As long as they don't 338 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: have a deal done and they've got other players they 339 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: can win with those positions and be interesting to see 340 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: what they do there if they get a new general 341 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: manager in place, a fresh set of eyes. Um to 342 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: go together with Bill O'Brien and said, hey, you know, 343 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: maybe this is the time we try and maximize what 344 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: we could get for him. Um if they do in 345 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: fact make a move there, so that'll be an interesting 346 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: subplot there in that situation. Veryon because Jadevian Clowney wants 347 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: to get paid. He wants to get big time money. 348 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: We've seen the money that has been going to pass 349 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: rushers Frank Clark and de Ford de Mark's Lawrence Um. 350 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: Javin Clowny is gonna want to be in that range. 351 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: And so when you put him alongside j. J. Watt, 352 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: you understand what they have in terms of their foundation 353 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: on defense. It's just a matter of can they get 354 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: multi year deal done. And with some of the reports 355 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: and rumors coming out that Bill O'Brien and Jadeveon Clowney 356 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: don't uh see the game ei they're not necessarily on 357 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: the same page. Maybe they don't like each other. We 358 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: will see. It may take a general manager that is 359 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: able to bridge the gap or kind of handle some 360 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: of those conversations that will need to be handled when 361 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: it comes to Jadeveon Clowney's representation and even the player himself. 362 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: So we'll see how plays out. But this is a 363 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: critical time for the Houston Texans. They have to get 364 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: this higher correct absolutely um and talking about whether or 365 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: not they're gonna pay Jadevan Clowney. One guy who did 366 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: get paid here quickly as Carson Wentz that big deal 367 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: came down. He got a lot of change. You got 368 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: a lot of change there, Buck, And and to me, 369 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with it at all. I thought, look, 370 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: let's get this distraction over with. Get him taking care 371 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: of was playing well last year. Got she was completing 372 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: almost seventy his passes UM in the eleven games that 373 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 1: he played. Unfortunately, has the injury. But you go back 374 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 1: and look at the Super Bowl year and Folds obviously 375 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:22,919 Speaker 1: gets the credit for what took place at the end 376 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 1: of the season, the postseason um getting that Super Bowl 377 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: to Philadelphia. But Carson Wentz was gonna be the m 378 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: v P if he had stayed healthy that year. He 379 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: was going to be the m v P in the 380 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: National Football League. So the talent is without question. Yeah, 381 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: the talent is certainly there. Um, the talent is there. 382 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: He was the second overall pick. He's a big, strapping, stronger, 383 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: and playmaker guy that can do it athletically. He can 384 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:43,719 Speaker 1: move around and make plays with his feet, can give 385 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: you his own run quarterback run game stuff that you want. 386 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: Can also make plays, uh from the pocket. He has 387 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: been spectacular when he's been healthy. The issue that some 388 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,239 Speaker 1: people will have the injury history. He's kind of been 389 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: beat up a lot, was hurt at UH North Dakota State. UH, 390 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 1: he's in the banking up, He's been banged up a 391 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: little bit as a pro, and so you're kind of wandering, 392 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: are you going to be able to really see him 393 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: be an m v P caliber player for a long time. 394 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 1: I think it was actually in Carson wentz best interest 395 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: to take the deal now as it was offered. When 396 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: you've had the injuries that he's had, you want to 397 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: make sure that a less secure the bag. I not 398 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: that I could probably play it out and maybe get more, 399 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: but less secure the bag. Let's time my future to 400 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles for a long term. And even if 401 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: the CB a kind of opens up the freeway when 402 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: it comes to the amount of money quarterbacks could make 403 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: going forward, I think it is better for Carson Wentz 404 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 1: to do a deal now that would put him in 405 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: that thirty two million dollar range and allow him to 406 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: be the face of the franchise going forward for the 407 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: Eagles now. I think from the Eagle standpoint, just kind 408 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: of a really the timing was all about accounting and 409 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: where you kind of fit money in and this is 410 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: a good opportunity for them. They have the space to 411 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: have the room. Go ahead and get this done right now. 412 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 1: That's something that how He Roseman has done as well 413 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: as any general manager in the NFL managed a salary cap. 414 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 1: Know when the opportunities are to lock up your key guys, 415 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: and none more key than the quarterback of your football team. 416 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: So I thought it was smart for both parties go 417 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 1: ahead and get that thing done. At this point in time, Buck, 418 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: you just went on a recent uh scouting trip to Mobile, Alabama. 419 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 1: No more normally we're going to Mobile, Alabama for the 420 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl and that's in in January. What the heck 421 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: are you doing out there this time of ere? So, look, 422 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: this is a fascinating program and I'm really excited about 423 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: being a part of a Jim naggy Head called. He 424 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: invited a couple of pro scouts UH for well, a 425 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: current scout, Tim Terry, who is the pro director for 426 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: the kN C D Chiefs. He invited me to kind 427 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: of represent the college side. Dan Hammond, who runs the 428 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: Scouting Academy, he had decided to really open his doors 429 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl offices and invite former players and 430 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 1: to learn about the scouting biss. He believes that former 431 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: players UH could make very very good scouts. He wanted 432 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: to kind of give them a gateway to entry and 433 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 1: expose them to the business. So for two days I 434 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: went and presented on everything that I know about being 435 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: a scout, how to evaluate, how to go on the road, 436 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: how to write reports, how to manage my schedule, how 437 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: to deal with restrictions, how to conduct a school call 438 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,959 Speaker 1: and school visit, what to think about and DJ, I'm 439 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: gonna be honest with you, it has been a while 440 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: since I've kind of had like the scouting spirit stirred 441 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: a little bit. It was stirred a little bit because, 442 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: um Man, look, as much as there's some things that 443 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: maybe we talked about the road being tough, there is 444 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: something to the art of being able to evaluate players 445 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: and to go through it and have conversations and to 446 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: talk about one player over another player, or to theorize 447 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 1: about building a team. And so I got a chance 448 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: to do that with these these guys. And as much 449 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: as I may have shared and and and gave, I 450 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 1: think I came back learning even that much more. Syvester 451 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 1: Kroom came in and talked about uh, running backs and 452 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: building teams and offense and things to think about. And 453 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: so it was really exciting to kind of be back 454 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: in the mix, to look at a draft board, to 455 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: look at the draft did they already have in place 456 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 1: and in line for the Senior Bowl, And to talk 457 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: about some of the guys in the twenty class. And 458 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,959 Speaker 1: so for me, it was a great opportunity and I 459 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: am thrilled that I had an opportunity to kind of 460 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: get back and share. That's so cool. I know something. 461 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: I believe that Phil Savage started there when he was 462 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: heading up the Reese Senior Bowl, and Jim has done 463 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 1: a great job of continuing on that tradition and and 464 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: those types of opportunities you. I'm glad the way you 465 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: phrase that, Buck, because a lot of times you get 466 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 1: invited to being a circle of people and that they 467 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: invite you in to share your knowledge, and like, if 468 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 1: you're doing this thing right, you go in there, you 469 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: share something, You're getting a whole lot more back and 470 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: and that's part of just being an active learner. And 471 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 1: that's something man, You've They've done it this offseason. Buck, 472 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 1: you go up to Canada, you've been to Mobile getting 473 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: all those ideas, and selfishly, I'm just gonna try and 474 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: steal him for the podcast here so we can roll. 475 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 1: And now it's DJ has been great, you know, like 476 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: the one thing like when you've scouted, you kind of 477 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,479 Speaker 1: behold into the team that you work for, right and 478 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: hopefully you've had good mentors. You certainly have had. I've 479 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: had plenty of mentors when it comes to the people 480 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 1: off the round Wolf Tree being able to spend time 481 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: also in Carolina with John Fox and Martin Herny and 482 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: Tony Softly and those guys, so you learn how to 483 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,199 Speaker 1: do it a couple of different ways. But I'm a 484 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: big believer that you always can learn from others. And 485 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: so hearing Jim Naggi's stories where he spent time with 486 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: the Patriots and the Kansa City Chiefs and then the 487 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks Dan Hadman who had been with the Eagles 488 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: and the Giants, and just listening to how guys have 489 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 1: been taught the business, whether it's degrading skill or how 490 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: you write reports, so how you kind of think about 491 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: players and evaluate tape and those things. To me, it 492 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: was really kind of like a graduate level uh, class 493 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: in terms of just being able to get back to 494 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: the nuts and bolts of the business. And sometimes in 495 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 1: in TV and the side that we're on, we still evaluate, 496 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: we still do those things, but you can say it's 497 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: a little different than when you work for a team. 498 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: When you work for a team, it's a little more 499 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: specific and tied to the team. Now we're kind of 500 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: generalizing how we like players, and so sometimes it's good 501 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: to kind of get back to the essence of what 502 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 1: we got into it for, which was really evaluating players 503 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: and trying to figure out a way to build the 504 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: best roster to give your team a chance to compete 505 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: for the title. I love it. I love it, Buck, 506 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: and uh, I'm gonna get with you offline here and 507 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 1: get some more information on what went down there, because 508 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: I think it's a great idea and you can tell 509 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 1: you it left you, Uh, it left you a little 510 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: fired up. Get me fired up about the bills again, 511 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: like like man like, I love that. I almost went 512 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: like this weekend almost I was like, you know what, 513 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna start just grinding away on the twenty twenty class. 514 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get them. I'm gonna stacking board and then 515 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 1: I was like, hold up, you got plenty of time. 516 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: Once this train starts, that doesn't stop down a little bit. 517 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: So I put my brakes a little bit. I didn't 518 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: delve all the way into it, but I got my 519 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 1: toe with a little bit toe with talking about those guys. 520 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: I love it well. Talking about team building leads us 521 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 1: into this next conversation. Here. Had a chance little bit 522 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 1: earlier today to catch up with Tom to LESCo from 523 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: the Chargers. This is a team that's coming off a 524 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: twelve win season, uh, a loss to the Patriots there 525 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: second round of the postseason, a big win over the 526 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,479 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens, a team on the cusp of a Super 527 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: Bowl run. Here they are right there, and I love 528 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 1: talking team building with Tom. Uh. Here's our conversation. Tom. 529 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: We've got plenty of time to talk about football and 530 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: about your team, but I want to start off in 531 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: another sport, in basketball, because as we've watched these these 532 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 1: NBA finals unfold, uh, the Toronto Raptors have been a 533 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: fascinating case study for any team builders such as yourself. 534 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: And that I thought a pretty bold move to go 535 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: out and get Kauai Leonard, one of the top players 536 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: in the NBA, knowing, hey, this might only be you know, 537 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: a one year deal here for him, people thought, oh, 538 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: are they mortgaging the future? You know, is this over 539 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: aggressive move? But I love your thoughts on that, just 540 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: as a team builder may be taking a little bit 541 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: of a bold step. And what you think about how 542 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 1: they've how they've built that team. Yeah, I know. I 543 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: mean certainly when you sit in my seat, I'm always 544 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 1: looking at different sports, different teams, how they're built. Um, 545 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 1: actually down at the Padres game yesterday against the Nationals 546 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 1: and we're just watching how I was there too with 547 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: their team, but how you were there too? Back to 548 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: back to back to back home runs in the road 549 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: that was we saw history at least. But you know, 550 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 1: watching the Raptors, how they put their team together, it's 551 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: it's it's pretty interesting. I mean, it's you know, I 552 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: guess it is a bold move bringing bringing Kyrie in 553 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: for for one year or Kauai. I'm sorry, um, but 554 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: if you ever been in Toronto, it's a beautiful city. 555 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: You bring them in for for a year and try 556 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: and sell them on staying in Toronto long term. They 557 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: made the head coaching change, you know, after their head 558 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: coach had been coached the year that, I think the 559 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: year or two before, but they made some changes up front. 560 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 1: There are a fun team to watch there athletic, they're active, um. 561 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: But you know, may they brought in Kawhi Leonard thinking hey, 562 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: let's get me in here for one year and we'll 563 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 1: make a run at this and hopefully sell them on 564 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: on on our organization, on our city and we keep 565 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: them here long term. But uh boy, they are a 566 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 1: fun team to watch, but a great series. I'm a 567 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: big NBA basketball fan. I'm a big basketball fan in general. Um, 568 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: but it's been fun to watch. I think people that 569 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: listening to this might be kind of surprised to know 570 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: general managers of National Football League paying attention to what 571 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: goes on in other sports and paying attention to how 572 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 1: teams are built and constructed. If you had built up 573 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 1: some relationships across other sports throughout your years in your role, yeah, 574 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: I've been very lucky. Uh And and that's what I 575 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: love to do that. I love to talk to other 576 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: gms and baseball and basketball, um, hockey, UM. It made 577 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: a lot of contacts over the years and just to 578 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: try and get some new ideas learned from some really 579 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 1: smart people, um, everywhere I've been, and I think there's 580 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: so many ideas you can gain from what other teams do. 581 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: You know, It's not like I can call another NFL 582 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 1: team and bounce ideas off them about how what their 583 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: processes are, different things that they do, so um, whether 584 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 1: it's any sport. You know, I've been able to keep 585 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: in contact with different gms and I just learned. I mean, 586 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: it's a really really smart team builders out there, and 587 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 1: there's so many different ways to build a team. There's 588 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: not just one specific formula. So to talk with different 589 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: people and get some different ideas, UM, it's really helpful. 590 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 1: It's it's fun. I mean, if you love sports like 591 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: I do, and I love all sports, um, it's fun 592 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 1: talking with these other other gms and head coaches and 593 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: you know, very lucky to be in the spot I 594 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 1: am where I'm able to do that. I love that. 595 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: I think there is so much you can learn. I 596 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 1: know a lot of folks have learned a lot from 597 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: European soccer. We've seen that sports science impact kind of 598 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: start over there and then really make its way over 599 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: to the American sports leagues. UH. With your team that 600 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 1: the charges let's get into that a little bit here. Uh, 601 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: when I when I look at this team, I haven't 602 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,239 Speaker 1: you know, seen follow this team all year long, and 603 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 1: now look at what you've done in the offseason that 604 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: you know. I know, you've got stars, You've got your Boases, 605 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: you've got the Ingram's Um, You've got obviously Philip Rivers 606 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 1: and company. There's a lot of stars in this football team. 607 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: But right now when I look at it, the word 608 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,199 Speaker 1: of depth is one that that jumps out to me, 609 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,719 Speaker 1: Tom when you look especially in that defensive front, the 610 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: depth that you've been able to build up. Was that 611 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: really a focus for you kind of going in the 612 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 1: off season is just be able to withstand the injuries 613 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: that are in evitaly big going to come in an 614 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 1: NFL season, Yes, I mean big focus to to try 615 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 1: and build as deeper ninety man roster as we can. 616 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: And Uh, like you said, it's it's a long NFL season. 617 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 1: You're gonna have injuries. You're gonna have players maybe a 618 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: certain positions that I don't perform the way you expect, 619 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: and you need to have some depth behind them to 620 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 1: step in and play. And that can be the difference 621 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: between nine wins and twelve wins, it could be a 622 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: difference between wining the division and not winning the division. So, 623 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 1: um yeah, it was a huge focus this year, just 624 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: ad as much depth as we can going into training 625 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: camp and still even right now to see what we 626 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: can do. It's once you get into training camp, Um, 627 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: you know, you kind of are where you are and 628 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: maybe get lucky and you could add a player here. 629 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: They are at different positions to cut the fifty three 630 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: in the first week of September, you may be able 631 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: to find a def player here there at certain positions. 632 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: There's some position at that point it's hard to find 633 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: a player that can come in and contribute right away. 634 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: But um, we're still looking as me moving to training camp, 635 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: any places we can really strengthen ourselves for more competition 636 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: going into camp because we know every team in the 637 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: league and not just sets, every team in the league. 638 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: We're gonna have injuries throughout the way. We need to 639 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: have players that can step in keep that train moving 640 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: and so produced at a winning level as we wait 641 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: for those starters to come back. And it it takes 642 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: more than twenty two starters in this league. And like 643 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: you said, on the defensive line, especially the way we played. 644 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: It's an act of front um and to keep guys fresh. 645 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: We want to be able to play eight guys, play 646 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: nine guys up front to get after the quarterback. I 647 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: think that's a really kind of a trend we've seen 648 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: for a long time NFL championship teams. Those waves of 649 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: talent they have up front on the defensive line go 650 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: along with great quarterback player. That's that's a good foundation 651 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: UH to have. Is speaking of the quarterback Philip Rivers. 652 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: I did see Mr Spanos came out the other day 653 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: and said something will eventually get done here with his 654 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: contract situation's going into the last year of his deal. 655 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get into you with you know where 656 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: you're at in those negotiations, but I do know you 657 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: have a lot of players that are coming do here 658 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: pretty quick, star players. And when you see deals done 659 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: at their position, you know, for instance, you see it 660 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: in Eli Manning uh or sorry, Ben Roethlisberger deal come 661 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: down same draft class as the Philip Rivers. Then you 662 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: see you know you've got Melvin Gordon. You see a 663 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: Todd Gurley deal go down at the running back position. 664 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: I'm just curious with you and Ed McGuire, who's who 665 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: has handled a cap before the charges for so long. Uh, 666 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: when one of those deals goes down, do you guys 667 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: kind of get together? Is there a meeting? Is there 668 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: a conversation? Okay, what does this mean for us going forward? Yeah? 669 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: You know, first, Ed mcgwirey has a tremendous job has 670 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: doing this doing this job for a number of years 671 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: and it's excellent at it. And uh, you know every 672 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: time yeah, Adeal is done, um at that position in 673 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: that market, there's no doubt we'll sit down and talk 674 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: about it, um, you know, and breaks down every contract 675 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: that comes in. But you know, contracts like those, will 676 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: sit down and talking about how it's gonna affect us, 677 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: and uh, like it's a good problem to have that. 678 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: We have a lot of players in our football team, 679 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: many that our home grown that we want to do 680 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: extensions with. We we want to Our philosophy is is draft, developed, resigned. 681 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: Now can you do that with every single player that 682 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: you draft? You know, not necessarily you can, um, but 683 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: that's our philosophy. And the will will supplement through free agency, 684 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: you know on the back end. But um, now we 685 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: have some players that are up that we have to 686 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 1: do some work on. And look, yeah, there's there's a 687 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,719 Speaker 1: market at every position, and those are the discussions you 688 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: have what the other players representatives and try and work 689 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: through it. Um. But like I said, it's a good 690 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: problem to have that we have a lot of players 691 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: in a football team that we want to extend and 692 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: keep here for a long time with Obviously, you know, Philippine, 693 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: you know an easy one right there. Yeah, if you 694 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: don't have any players you're looking to sign, I think 695 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: we've got you get real problems, Sarah, like you much 696 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: rather have these problems that you have right now with 697 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: all these guys. Last question, absolutely, last question. The Chargers here, UM, 698 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: Thomas Davis. So, I I thought it was a fascinating signing. 699 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: And when you look at the way the league's gone 700 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: and in free agency, you know, youth is seemed to 701 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: be what everybody's after. Obviously he's trying to get younger. 702 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: Is there opportunities like a guy with a guy like 703 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: Thomas Davis where you can get veteran value, uh, somebody 704 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: like that with the experience, the knowledge he brings, the leadership, Um, 705 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: And I look at what you're able to get him 706 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: for it looked like a pretty darn good value able 707 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: to get there. Yeah, we thought so. I mean, look, 708 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: we would all love to sign a u f A 709 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: at any position as who's twenty five years old and 710 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: in the prime of their career. I'd love to have that. Uh, Financially, 711 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: it's not always possible. And obviously those players don't come 712 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: to market that are free very often. So we didn't 713 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: set out to sign a you know, thirty five thirty 714 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: six year old linebacker as we went into greediency. But um, 715 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: as we watched Thomas play and we know his career 716 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: at Carolina and see where has the level of play 717 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: still is um not to mention what he brings experience 718 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: and character wiseed to the locker room, which is a bonus. UM. 719 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: You know, he played a position that we felt like 720 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: we had to be deeper at. UM. That was the 721 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: one position last year we had a lot of injuries. 722 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: UM I didn't set us up well enough at that 723 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: position to be up the handle those injuries, which is 724 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: why Gus Radley did a tremendous job really using you know, 725 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: our defensive backs in different ways to try and cover 726 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 1: up for our injuries at linebacker. But the end we 727 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: need linebackers to play a linebacker most often, so Thomas 728 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 1: Davis was a player that we thought fit us very well. 729 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: And if you look at you know the style at 730 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: least how we play. I mean, Thomas Davis is a 731 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: former safety UM Kaiser White who played for US last 732 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: we actually want a starting job for us last year 733 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: as a rookie. He was a safety at West Virginian 734 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: and Drew Tranquil who we drafted this year in the 735 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,959 Speaker 1: in the fourth round. Um, you know, safety and her 736 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 1: name his first couple of years moved to linebackers. You 737 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: can kind of see the style that we look for 738 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: a linebacker. Thomas fits all that and uh, watching him 739 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: practice here in O T A S it's been Uh, 740 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 1: it's been fun. I mean he goes hard all the 741 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: time and you can see how players like him to 742 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 1: have the talent, have the makeup and then have the 743 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: workout that you can see why the players how they 744 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: turn in the player that they are today. I mean 745 00:33:56,040 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: he is percent all go every snap O T as 746 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: in March and April and May and June and uh 747 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,239 Speaker 1: to the point where we have to hold them back 748 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: a little bit. But those are the players who want 749 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 1: to add and uh, you know, as their value there. 750 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: I don't really look at value. I don't see his 751 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: player as being on sale or or anything like that. 752 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 1: But we just thought as a player that he really 753 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 1: fit what we look for style wise, performance wise, and 754 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: obviously the make up part of it too. All gas, 755 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 1: no brakes have been the way he's played the game 756 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 1: since he's since he's coming to the league. LOOK forward 757 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: to seeing you and all these Charger players on Wednesday. 758 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 1: We're gonna be out there NFL Network. We'll have three 759 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: hours of live coverage. Uh, they're from Chargers Camp, so 760 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: I know everybody will look forward to seeing that. Hey, man, 761 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: I appreciate so much you give me your time. I 762 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 1: look forward to visit with you on Wednesday out there 763 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: Chargers Camp. Alright, great, we'll see you Wednesday. Take care 764 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: of thanks. Alright, Bluck, Well, I know you've known Tom 765 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,240 Speaker 1: for a long time as well, and it's always fascinating 766 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 1: talk with him because we were talking earlier on in 767 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: the show, but always trying to learn, and it's fascinating 768 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: to me that Tom spends time talking with general managers 769 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 1: from all these different sports and and trying get as 770 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 1: much information knowledge as you as you possibly can. You know, DJ, 771 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 1: That's something that we've talked about and one of the 772 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: things that we want to bring to the pode down 773 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 1: the line is Uh. You know, building the team is 774 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: building a team in any way, shape or form, being 775 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 1: in baseball, basketball, being in business, being able to identify 776 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: how to put the best product on the field or 777 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: in the boardroom or out there for public consumption. That's 778 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: what you want. And so I am a big believer 779 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 1: as you are in always learning and the fact that 780 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 1: Tom to LESCo is willing to put himself out there 781 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: and to learn from others, to me, I think it's 782 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,800 Speaker 1: it is worthy of a tip of the cap because 783 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 1: you never have all the answers and so sometimes you 784 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 1: just kind of want to see how others do it 785 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 1: because it can kind of spark an idea that maybe 786 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:47,760 Speaker 1: changed the way that you think about building a team. No, absolutely, um. 787 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,760 Speaker 1: And to me, you look at the New England Patriots. 788 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 1: They've been the cream of the crop in the National 789 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 1: Football League for so long and Bill Belichick constantly bringing 790 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: in people from the outside, Uh, continue to learn and 791 00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: to grow, and not only in the football world, talking 792 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: to people outside that space as well. All right. The 793 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 1: other day, we did a a quick discussion on player 794 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: stocks that we were buying. Today, Buck, we're talking about 795 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,800 Speaker 1: team stocks that we're buying. We're just gonna buy three stocks. 796 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 1: We believe in the future, this team, where they're headed, 797 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 1: what they've accomplished in the off season. I say we 798 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 1: work three to one. I'll give you the floor to 799 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: go first, and I'll piggyback you here. Okay, So I'm 800 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 1: gonna go three and you can go three. All right, 801 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna start out. Let's do it like. The 802 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers are the third team to keep your eye on. 803 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 1: And the reason that I am big on the Carolina Panthers, 804 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 1: Cam Newton is coming back, and I expect Cam Newton 805 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 1: to come back and return to superman form. He is 806 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,919 Speaker 1: really kind of settling into the system on the North 807 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 1: Turner and I just know that North Turner does a 808 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 1: great job of elevating quarterback. So when you think about 809 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 1: Cam Newton's talent, not only is a runner, but the 810 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: arm telling that he has. We saw him show flashes 811 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 1: before the injury a season ago. Nan, you get him 812 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 1: fully back to health, he should play like an All Star. 813 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 1: That is why I'm optimistic about the Panthers plus Jerald 814 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,839 Speaker 1: McCoy joining don Terry Pope on their defense. I think 815 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,399 Speaker 1: that defense is gonna be a little bit better if 816 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,800 Speaker 1: Brian Burns can give them something. I believe the Panthers 817 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 1: gonna be in the mix in the NFC South. It's 818 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 1: a good one there, the Carolina Panthers. That is a 819 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 1: tough division. Another division it's gonna be tough. You look 820 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:18,800 Speaker 1: at the NFC East. I'm gonna go to the Eagles 821 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 1: is my is my number three team. That's a stock 822 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 1: that I'm buying now. I know they you know, win 823 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 1: total last year doesn't wow you, but they get into 824 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: the postseason, they go win a tough game on the 825 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 1: road against Chicago Bears. I know what this team is 826 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 1: made of. And I think Carson Wentz, based off everything 827 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 1: I've heard talking to people in that organization, how he's looked. 828 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,919 Speaker 1: Obviously they just gave him the new contract. I think 829 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 1: he's due for a very big year with all the 830 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 1: weaponry he has around him. We talked about him, uh 831 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,800 Speaker 1: just the other week. When you're mentioning the best group 832 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 1: of receivers and the variety they can throw at you 833 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: with an all seon Jeffrey bringing back at the Sean Jackson. 834 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: Everything I've heard in the off season, it's been an 835 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: outstanding run there for Nelson Aguilar. So you bring in 836 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 1: a J. J R. Sega Whiteside, They've got arts, They've 837 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 1: got they have so many weapons around him, and they've 838 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 1: built depth in that offensive line to be able to 839 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 1: withstand any injuries. So I think offensively they're gonna score 840 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: a bunch of points. And I think defensively, again, they 841 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,280 Speaker 1: can throw a wave at waves at you up front 842 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: with that defensive line. I'm I'm buying a lot of 843 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 1: stock here in the Philadelphiagles like they're gonna win this division. 844 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 1: I think they're a threat to go a long way 845 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 1: in the postseason. I mean, I like what they're doing. 846 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 1: I like what they're building. I like the way this 847 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 1: team is heading. Look, you have the quarterback on the contract, 848 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 1: you got him done. He's gonna be there for a while. 849 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 1: He's going to have more confidence because you really have 850 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,879 Speaker 1: shown that long term commitment, and I think he's going 851 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,880 Speaker 1: to bounce back to being the guy that played at 852 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,359 Speaker 1: the m v P caliber his second season. And so 853 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 1: Philodephia Eagles are squarely in the mix. I'm gonna go 854 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 1: with a team in a division and I'm gonna saying 855 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:44,839 Speaker 1: that they are on the rise, even though they made 856 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,320 Speaker 1: the playoffs this season ago. How about the Dallas Cowboys. 857 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 1: The Dallas Cowboys are a team that I'm excited about 858 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,840 Speaker 1: because defensively, Christian Charter's done a great job of getting 859 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,760 Speaker 1: this team up and going. They're playing fast, they're playing physical, 860 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,760 Speaker 1: they fly to the ball with reckless abandoned to Marcus Lawrence, 861 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,400 Speaker 1: a sign lock Stock and Barrel. Didn't you have Jayleen 862 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 1: Smith and l V E. Layton vander esh you have 863 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 1: Sean Lee there still being the mentor. And then in 864 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 1: the back end Byron Jones was playing at an all 865 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,440 Speaker 1: pro level a season ago. I think he continues to 866 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 1: get better under a Shard and then offensively, a full 867 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 1: offseason for Mariy Cooper to settle in and get comfortable 868 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 1: with Dak Prescott, Ezekiel Ellie coming back, and then a 869 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 1: new play called and Kellen Moore. If Kellen Moore brings 870 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 1: any of that dynamic shifting in motion and mr direction 871 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: that we saw him execute at Boys, he has a quarterback, 872 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 1: I think this offense has a chance to really make 873 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:39,399 Speaker 1: a major jump. A lot of pressure there on Kellen Moore. 874 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 1: Get that offense cranked up, and U gonna be a 875 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,840 Speaker 1: fun division race to watch there at the Cowboys and 876 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 1: the Eagles, Redskins very competitive football team as well in 877 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 1: New York Giants. Will see what that team looks like 878 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,839 Speaker 1: offensively in the upcoming season. Number two for me, I'm 879 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,440 Speaker 1: gonna Jacksonville Jaguars. This is a team not far removed 880 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 1: from the discussions does this team have the most talent 881 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 1: in the NFL? That how deep that roster was? Uh? 882 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 1: Coming off that playoff appearance where they go into Pittsburgh 883 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 1: and get them and very competitive against New England Patriots. 884 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 1: Now it all fell apart last year. The quarterback play 885 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,240 Speaker 1: was not where it needed to be. You go bringing 886 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,960 Speaker 1: in Nick Foles. I think they'll be better in that department. 887 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 1: Offensive line wise, Cam Robinson I thought last year man 888 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 1: did they miss him? Getting him back is gonna be 889 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,359 Speaker 1: big for this offense. And then defensively, there's just too 890 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 1: much talent for them not to play at a high level. 891 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 1: I think you see a bounce back year and keep 892 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 1: an eye on this one. I know Josh Allen comes 893 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 1: in Fell into their lap in the draft talented edge 894 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,480 Speaker 1: rusher from Kentucky, but Yannick and Gockway has long been 895 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 1: one of the better edge rushers that doesn't get discussed 896 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 1: in the NFL and now having a legitimate, viable threat 897 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,840 Speaker 1: on the other side, and Josh Allen, I think Johannick 898 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 1: and Gottways, he's a legit NFL defensive player that year 899 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,279 Speaker 1: candidate Buck He's got the ability to get up there 900 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 1: and post huge sack numbers and I think he does 901 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,839 Speaker 1: that this year. Look, he has to do it. This 902 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 1: team is under pressure. They have to get back to 903 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 1: being a team that is really in contention of winning 904 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 1: the a f C South. This is a team that 905 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,280 Speaker 1: has all the talent that you want. They just gotta 906 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,719 Speaker 1: play the right way. A team that I believe he's 907 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 1: going to play the right way is a team that 908 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 1: I believe could be the most talented team in the 909 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 1: National Football League. How about the Cleveland Browns. I'm going 910 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,799 Speaker 1: all in on the Cleveland Browns. And this is a 911 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 1: hard one for me because, look, I wonder, how are 912 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 1: you gonna do it with a young coach that is 913 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 1: just kind of making his way in Freddy Kitchens how's 914 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 1: the second year quarterback in Baker Mayfield going to handle 915 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 1: all the personalities that he has at his disposal? But 916 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,719 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Jr. Jarvis Landry. Are you look in the 917 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,880 Speaker 1: backfield with Nick Chubb, you have Kareem Hunt who's eventually 918 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,280 Speaker 1: going to be a contributor to this team. That offensive 919 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,239 Speaker 1: line is solid, David and Joe who should take a 920 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,240 Speaker 1: major jump, and then they have the luxury playing behind 921 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 1: what I think is going to be a top defense. 922 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 1: This defense is loaded Olivia Vernon, Johnny Miles, Garrett Um, 923 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 1: all the weapons that they have kind of added on 924 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 1: both sides of the ball, plus Steve Wilkes the DEFENSEI cordin, 925 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,760 Speaker 1: who I believe is an upgrade over Gret Williams. There's 926 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 1: no reason why the Cleveland brown shouldn't win the a 927 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,359 Speaker 1: f C North. I know it's a lot of us here, 928 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,840 Speaker 1: but man, this team is loaded. I expect big things 929 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 1: in the dog bout. Yeah. Look, one of us had 930 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 1: to say something about the Cleveland Browns. I mean, the 931 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,759 Speaker 1: talent is you can't ignore it. I mean there's tremendous 932 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 1: amount of talent that on this roster built by John Dorsey, 933 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 1: my number one team, though I'm gonna to the NFC, 934 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna to the NFC West, and I'm gonna go 935 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 1: with San Francisco. Forty Niners is a stock. I would 936 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,720 Speaker 1: be pushing all in right now on the fort because 937 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:29,919 Speaker 1: we gotta stick to what we believe. We talked about 938 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 1: on this show all the time. We believe great championship 939 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,719 Speaker 1: rosters are built up front, and that starts really with 940 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 1: the defensive line. Can you hunt the quarterback and first 941 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 1: and foremost, gotta have the quarterback position. Who has improved 942 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 1: more from last season to this season. At those two 943 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 1: spots than the forty Niners, you get Jimmy Garoppolo, hopefully healthy, 944 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 1: who is perfectly built to play in this Shanahan offense. 945 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,440 Speaker 1: We've seen that. Just get sixteen games at him, you're 946 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:59,040 Speaker 1: gonna see more production from that position. And offensively, you 947 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 1: look at the web and read that they have around. 948 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 1: Go get a Deebo Samuel Jalen Hurd, mix them with 949 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 1: George Kittle, one of the best tight ends in the NFL. 950 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 1: They have plenty to be successful offensively, but it starts 951 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 1: there with the quarterback and then defensive line wise, who's 952 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 1: made two greater additions than what they got with Nick 953 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,880 Speaker 1: Bosa and d Ford. I mean elite level pass rushers. 954 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 1: I know Bosa's injured right now, he's gonna be okay, 955 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,320 Speaker 1: He'll be ready to go for the start of the season. 956 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 1: And you put those dudes next to the Forest Buckner, 957 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,120 Speaker 1: one of the best young defensive line in the NFL. Uh, 958 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 1: that's a stock I'm buying. Look, I'm buying it as well. 959 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:31,799 Speaker 1: And one of the reasons why I'm buying is because 960 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,360 Speaker 1: I believe that defense that you alluded to, that front 961 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 1: for that those pass rushes, I believe they may have 962 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,280 Speaker 1: one of the best bullepens when it comes to closers 963 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 1: defour joining the Forrest Buckler, having Nick Bolsa dek you 964 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,799 Speaker 1: also can throw in the mix. There's no reason why 965 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 1: they shouldn't be able to harass the quarterback whenever they 966 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 1: want to, just matter how aggressive is Robert Sally gonna be? 967 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 1: And then offensively, I just can't wait to see what 968 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan does with Jimmy Garoppolo and the weapons that 969 00:43:56,040 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 1: he has at his disposal. Now, those are the three 970 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 1: stocks that we're each buying here with teams. Let us 971 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 1: know what you think. Hop on Twitter and give us 972 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 1: some feedback. I'm sure you agree with us one as 973 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 1: you as you guys always do. Alright, Buck, that's gonna 974 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,319 Speaker 1: I think that's gonna do it for us today. Man, 975 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 1: anything else you want to add before we get out 976 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:16,879 Speaker 1: of here? No, Man, this is great part. I think 977 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,520 Speaker 1: the time of Colesto stuff is outstanding. Love learning about 978 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,880 Speaker 1: the team building process, and I think he's done a 979 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 1: great job with the team that he's assembled in l A. 980 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,280 Speaker 1: This is a team that certainly should be in contention, 981 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 1: not only for winning the division, they are a super 982 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 1: Bowl team. I can't wait to see how plays out. Yeah, 983 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 1: this is this has been a fun show. Again, We've 984 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:36,919 Speaker 1: we've teased it a little bit. We've got some cool 985 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,280 Speaker 1: things coming later on the summer. We've been diligently working 986 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,960 Speaker 1: on our prototype series. We're going to release it. I 987 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,440 Speaker 1: believe the plan is in July. Uh. Position by position. 988 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,359 Speaker 1: You talk about going to scouting school, We're gonna take 989 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 1: our listeners to scouting school right here on the movie 990 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 1: six podcasts going position by position? How do we evaluate 991 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 1: the position? Get finding a player? Uh, the great player 992 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,279 Speaker 1: at that position? What made them great? To talking to 993 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 1: different coaches? Or personnel, guys that have that have scouted 994 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,600 Speaker 1: or been around great players. What do they believe makes 995 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 1: a player great? What's different now than it was ten 996 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,320 Speaker 1: years ago? And how's it going to change ten years 997 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 1: from now. Uh So we're gonna go position by position, 998 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,880 Speaker 1: and it's a series that I'm fired up from what 999 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 1: we've already been able to gather. Buck it's gonna be phenomenal. Yeah, 1000 00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,080 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be absolutely phenomenous. One of the 1001 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,239 Speaker 1: chances that we talked about letting uh our listeners and 1002 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,320 Speaker 1: viewers go behind the curtain. We can give them a 1003 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 1: little behind the curtain. Look, yeah, that's coming your way, 1004 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 1: so look beyond the lookout for that. Hythem producing great 1005 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:38,840 Speaker 1: job today. Appreciate you guys listening, downloading, subscribing, and again 1006 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 1: again if you could leave us a review on on 1007 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,720 Speaker 1: Apple Podcast. We do appreciate that we've continued to carry 1008 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 1: this momentum through the off season. There is no off 1009 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,440 Speaker 1: season in the NFL. We've proven that right here on 1010 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,800 Speaker 1: the Movie six pod. H Thank you so much and 1011 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 1: we'll catch you next time. Thanks for downloading. 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