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Speaker 1: Gangster chronic goals. It's not your average shows. You're now

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Speaker 1: five star rating and comment. Were's adding what's happening? I

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Speaker 1: got a special treat for yall today. I got my homeboy,

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Speaker 1: my n O homeboy fiend aka, I'm gonna call you

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Speaker 1: by your by your new Monica International. Jones's gone, John's chess.

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Speaker 1: What's up? It's popping? Oh man, same old things, same

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Speaker 1: old thing. Man. You got a lot of stuff going

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Speaker 1: on there. Man, you just dropped the fire album man

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Speaker 1: on on your own label. Fans of actually me and

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Speaker 1: your label, and now I will talk about that a

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Speaker 1: little bit. When you got a partnership. Now we got

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Speaker 1: a label. Fan club ean T fan Club n T.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, an optional way to tap

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Speaker 2: into some dope content.

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Speaker 1: You feel me.

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Speaker 2: By me and my partner young still know I'm still

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Speaker 2: you feel me on. The project is a title of

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Speaker 2: Big Shots, which is myself and Delo or Downing Man

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Speaker 2: of Monster Beats, of the producer's Monster Beats.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people.

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Speaker 2: At home though, but wherever tapped in you have to

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Speaker 2: know that dealer as an artist as well. So this

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Speaker 2: is my way of actually linking up with the people

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Speaker 2: that was underneath, you know, on the younger cruise and

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Speaker 2: kind of like planning to see you with project is

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Speaker 2: the title of big Shots that's available right now.

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Speaker 1: Wherever you get music, wherever you get music and fan

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Speaker 1: club Man. One of the things I'm excited about. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna be doing a lot of content. It's really a

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Speaker 1: creation company slash record company, because me and you talk

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Speaker 1: about that all the time. I think that's where the

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Speaker 1: record industry. I don't want to call it that no more.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty much the content industry.

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Speaker 2: It's a content industry. You asked me, and it really

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Speaker 2: been one. I just feel like in a sense like

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Speaker 2: I'm related to the party. I ain't gonna speak for

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Speaker 2: other people. I think it been one. I think and

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Speaker 2: I said something like in twenty nineteen and a lot

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Speaker 2: of times you gotta take you on advice as it's

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Speaker 2: coming from with then it's coming from a bigger place,

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. I've been said that with

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Speaker 2: keeping the cameras on your artists, you know, got'd be

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Speaker 2: the other space of content that you need when the

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Speaker 2: music isn't available. Now, I was thinking just that the

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Speaker 2: music would be available because the artists as life, you know,

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Speaker 2: and things that they're dealing with.

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Speaker 1: But until point now, like the.

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Speaker 2: Music is not the immediate interest of artists. You know

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying that more the consumer is more consumer

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Speaker 2: want to see everything how the music came about, before, during,

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Speaker 2: and then after out about your life.

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Speaker 1: You know, without a doubt, without a doubt, you know.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of that, man, I want to go back a

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Speaker 1: little bit. Man, you started off on a small label

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Speaker 1: Time Records, that's out of Texas. That's the Homely Recipes

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Speaker 1: from Texas that pimping them started on. But with the

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Speaker 1: record label what wasn't is Big Boy Records. Big Boy Records.

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Speaker 1: Me and you was talking the other day and a

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Speaker 1: little fun fact, this Big Boy Records was actually started

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Speaker 1: by a cat from La Yeah man, Rest of Peace,

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Speaker 1: Charles Temple. They called them Big Chuck Big checking your head.

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Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, Mystical was on that label too, correct, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you had our Mystical, you had g Slum rest the

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Speaker 1: piece g Slum like Menes, you had all Insane, caught

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Speaker 1: Ghetto Twins. I believe Crime Time. I know he was.

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Speaker 1: He was on the project.

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Speaker 2: Rest in Peace, Tim Swoose, even asking Tenure there.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, I didn't know that. You named a couple

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Speaker 1: Rap a Lot later on? Yes, sir, he was on

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Speaker 1: Rap a Lot later on. And who else did you say?

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Speaker 1: j precise David Folk. These are some people, you know,

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Speaker 1: But these are some.

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Speaker 2: People rob Shaw, Monster Low Man, old Boy, gang of

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Speaker 2: people that hell you said, monster Lok. I noticed that

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Speaker 2: from what I saw the owner either you know, he

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Speaker 2: But these are just some solid, solid guys, you know

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Speaker 1: That was you know, pretty comment man in the nineties. Man,

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Speaker 1: record labels. Man, when that other game kind of dried up,

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Speaker 1: my homie, shemmy what I'm saying, shemmy two one six

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Speaker 2: He used to always be driving gyms allay, you know

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Speaker 2: Pott from Bold and Green, Kentucky. He's out in California,

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Speaker 2: And the content was where it was that podcast videcast

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Speaker 1: What I'm saying. So, yeah, that's about when I that's

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Speaker 1: in New orleanss independent regul label that the start off slower?

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Speaker 1: Did the take off quick? Big Boy Records in the nineties.

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Speaker 2: You only had so many record companies that the nineties

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Speaker 3: So we got out there, performed some independently pressed up

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Speaker 3: and post distributed to all the record stores, right, you

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Speaker 1: You know, we didn't know about radio the whole. We

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Speaker 1: That's how you started. As far as the nineties, you know,

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Speaker 2: Up, you know what I mean, like those type opportunities.

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Speaker 2: You know, we didn't think it was so many opportunities

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Speaker 1: Hey, man, if you know, you know, I'm knowing when

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Speaker 1: live or die. I could come. I'm not a junk yard.

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Speaker 1: Sare you feel me? Like? Who cheers is probably mimicing

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Speaker 1: You've always been a squeaky clean dude, like you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, You've always been on point? How did

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say about a grace of yard, man, youear,

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Speaker 2: I mean, like, keep it just one thousand.

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Speaker 1: I got to buy a grace of God, and.

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Speaker 2: I would easily like I would like to take credit,

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Speaker 2: Man, man, that one and their family. I saw it real.

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Speaker 2: I saw like, man, they never get a chance to

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Speaker 2: I know they they gotta have a movie or something

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Speaker 2: I got the documentary off The Baddest Live.

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Speaker 1: It's a live to talk about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why that's out because I feel like, not

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Your first account of me was like this you bringing

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Speaker 2: me thinking of him talking about the coming up with

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Speaker 1: He showed his marketing savvy right there and there you

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Speaker 2: Love to show all that. That's the documentary all about.

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Speaker 1: But the collaborational limit was the round out the tank.

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Speaker 1: Because I'm gonna tell you what else I used to sell.

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Speaker 2: They wrote. It was something to be a part of.

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Speaker 1: You know. One of the things, man, I know this

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Speaker 1: Because you had to have some of you had to

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Speaker 2: I just like to recollect my memory of showing how

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Speaker 1: And hip hop, R and B, rock and roll.

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Speaker 2: If the manager was that type of a person, an

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Speaker 1: Wasn't seeing the eye, motherfucker until you look out your

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Speaker 1: we come a long way? Shit? We witnessing R and

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Speaker 2: Hey, bro, listen R and B wires I'm talking about

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Speaker 2: because a lot of people come to do business and

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Speaker 2: gangs to music, gangster rap and motherfuckers was doing this

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Speaker 2: a city where the guys are making music for the

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So they was doing the

432
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 2: music for the girls to get They saw that was

433
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 2: the move to get money in the twelves and you know,

434
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 2: get things gone. But they was really you know, going

435
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 2: some other stuff like you know what I'm saying. So

436
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 2: they popped and helped a lot of us and got

437
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 2: a lot.

438
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 1: Of us out of there. You know, the nineties is

439
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,879
Speaker 1: nothing to play with. Bro, Who what?

440
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:44,360
Speaker 3: Man?

441
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,400
Speaker 1: You know one of the groups you talk about Man,

442
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 1: you talk about kingan Abel Man, those guys, uh uh.

443
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 1: They wound up doing some time, didn't they? Yes, they did.

444
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 1: I don't know why. Man. It seems like our favorite

445
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,919
Speaker 1: rapper Man No Limited specific Man got a lot of

446
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,439
Speaker 1: guys get you know, got incarcerated. Man. You know you

447
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 1: had c Murder. You know he got you know, still

448
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 1: fighting his you know, still fighting for his life right now. Man,

449
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 1: you had canan neighbor Man Cats was really in the streets.

450
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 2: Well, what it was that we were targeted and it's

451
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:24,679
Speaker 2: not just that label. This is all l East coast, West, coast, Midwest,

452
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 2: and matter where he was from, he was a black

453
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 2: and dependent record company.

454
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 1: He was being targeted. So I wouldn't you know I was.

455
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 1: I wouldn't sit here and confirm whether or not you

456
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 1: know this person was in the street of that personal street,

457
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:44,880
Speaker 1: but I can confirm being targeted. Yeah, so if you.

458
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:51,360
Speaker 2: Caught me stealing napkins, then you know at that point

459
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 2: in time, I'm still an average day. But a lot

460
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,679
Speaker 2: of people was are incarcerated for stuff they didn't do,

461
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like a thousand percent. But yeah,

462
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 2: a lot of guys in the music business period had

463
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 2: one foot on and so on some of the leagal

464
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 2: shit or and one foot on some leadership.

465
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: You know, what what is canon Abel doing now? Then?

466
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 1: In the film business? From what I see for where

467
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 1: I'm at then, been in the film business for a

468
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 1: long time, and they doing well, well, very well. Then

469
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: you know I heard a rumor about that one to

470
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 1: verify with you.

471
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, flming TV, they've been doing well, healthy, happy living,

472
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 2: a wonderful lie Twins is crushing it and they feel

473
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 2: all filming TV for sure?

474
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 1: Are they are they still in New Orleans? No? Yeah, man,

475
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 1: I wish I could, Man, I wouldn't mind getting in

476
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 1: touch with them cats and hollering at them. They on

477
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: social media.

478
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 2: They're just not as probably as out there as some

479
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 2: of the former nolimited artists, but they on social media,

480
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 2: and I'm quite sure when the conversation could happen, it

481
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,400
Speaker 2: could happen with somebody like yourself.

482
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 1: You know, I would love to talk to them brothers. Man,

483
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 1: we're gonna get back to the music though. Man. So

484
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 1: you over there on no limit doing your thing, and

485
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 1: then next thing you know, I'll hear you on Jadakid's album. Man,

486
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: well tricked me out.

487
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 2: A lot happened from them, but I end up eventiting

488
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 2: time went by and I end up producing. I got

489
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 2: this situation on the contract side. I didn't know what

490
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 2: was going to happen for me as a wrap on

491
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 2: it or hip hop office, you know. So what I

492
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 2: did was ies dog said please, man, but if you

493
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 2: could allow me to do something else in the music business,

494
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 2: it goes without saying, I'd be fell grateful. But this

495
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 2: is how I want to make my money. I don't

496
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 2: want to be doing nothing out there in the streeting

497
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 2: money there.

498
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: Man.

499
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 2: I learned how to produce learn from Beasts by the

500
00:26:55,760 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 2: Pound heard me shout this catch sugar Bear, shout out

501
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 2: to ice Mic shot DJ jazz on seeing me.

502
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 1: These are people.

503
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 2: Shot the DV and shot the moose to like you know,

504
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 2: so these are people that allowed me to watch them.

505
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: Then these by the pounders ended up, you know.

506
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 2: Just man just dropping the bomb by giving me any

507
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 2: drums on discts And I want praising, bro, I want praise, controeducing.

508
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 1: I got so good. I got a track produced for

509
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: my brother Jadakins on his first solo album produced on

510
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: two as Hours. But that was my first production placement

511
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 1: outside of just my mutia. Several people in there. Hey

512
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 1: you hear there And that was a pretty big record too. Man,

513
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,239
Speaker 1: Man what she surpribed for? What you die for? Oh bro,

514
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I was so turned and live when

515
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: I produced that one. I called a rough rider on

516
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: the phone and was playing that business and the conference

517
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: room of the office and in Manhattan, and I remember

518
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 1: I finally turned it off there all laughing like what

519
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: it was. Wow.

520
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 2: I thought that bitch was so hard. I ran that

521
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 2: bitch over the fight. Yeah, and man, I'm talking about

522
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 2: don't I many peoples in the rum. But they were like,

523
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 2: we gotta get you out here, Bro, we got to

524
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 2: get you. They got me out there, Bro, I played

525
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 2: that ship that boy. It was like, Lord you mercy.

526
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 2: He was like, man, Bro got that joint placed on there.

527
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 2: Bro shut it down for that time.

528
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: Man, the Dirty South was you know what the dirty

529
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: stop was? And steel was hottest fisheries.

530
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 2: Right hey, man, we got a sound and it derived

531
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 2: from all oder but like the South is still on

532
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 2: a full front of recognition to this day on M streets.

533
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, you know, yeah, you know you went over

534
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: to the rough Riders, man. And then one of the things, Man,

535
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: that was real interesting. I was excited about. Man, tell

536
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: me how you linked up with Paul and Juicy and

537
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:06,239
Speaker 1: Man on the Juicehy DJ Paul Jay's mothead. We had

538
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: been cool, right, We already had, you know, love of

539
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: respect for each other.

540
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 2: What happened was mister serv On was talking about going

541
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 2: do a feature for them, and I was like, well,

542
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 2: you're gonna do a feature and he's like, man, you

543
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 2: might want to come out there. I get on the

544
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 2: phone with DJ Paul, which douce each other.

545
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: What's up? He's like, Man, what you gonna charge me man,

546
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: get on a song. Man, I'm like Paul, Man, you know,

547
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: let's work out. He said, I ain't got that pee

548
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: money just yet. Bro, So I don't need to overpriced me.

549
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: You know. I said, there you rich, mother fuck Paul

550
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: always been ja that's my brother. Ever a Jewish is

551
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: my brother's man. So he said, look, man, I could

552
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: do this. I said, check us out. I'm gonna ride

553
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: out there.

554
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna come knock that out right, hey, bro, in

555
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 2: my mind, as soon as we got off the phone,

556
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 2: you hear me, I want to work.

557
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: Soon as we got the phone guy in the studio,

558
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: k I told him, pull up a feet. Maybe they

559
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: want the beat. Y'all can do some business, right, I

560
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: laid down a hook, laid down a verse. You heard me.

561
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 2: We all got in the car together, went out there

562
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 2: to Memphis, got with Paul and them got in to

563
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 2: the studio.

564
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: Man cross room or them the local jail. They building

565
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: local jail around like boy, they it ain't nothing going

566
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: on over here. Boy you I say it, but it's smart,

567
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: you know, like it was dope. So maybe went there

568
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,239
Speaker 1: recorded and it was like, well, you know, we had

569
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: another beat in mine. But he pulled up the beat,

570
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: laid my verse, laid the chorus. I'm done, Jeremy, I'm done.

571
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: I might have been done ten minutes, hear me ten minutes.

572
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: Paul and Juices was like man hold on bro wait Man,

573
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: Man's the fans of money. I always spent man hold

574
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: on broke. We gotta do something else? How much for

575
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: two hooks? So how much as they was going back

576
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: and forth, I could have just I could have just

577
00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 1: said that with them, bro and you know probably you know,

578
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: just picked up a crazy bag. But it was mean

579
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: for us to work with each other like we did.

580
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: So we doubled back. Right.

581
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 2: Song was well, it did it did numbers. Did I

582
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 2: need my plaque? Paul Juicy Loud Records. You know what

583
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Listen, I'll pay for my plaque.

584
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: Every man. I need my plan, The man need his pla.

585
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: Paul help me, Paul always trying to help me out.

586
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 2: But I'm speaking to his Loud Records. Whoever was in

587
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 2: control of man. Look, my name is on that Jannikins.

588
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 2: My name is on the producer joint for him and Jesu,

589
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 2: these gold alves, these platinum albums. I need my plaques.

590
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: Man, I want to put them on the walls in

591
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: the studios officers that I have. That was a real segue.

592
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: These are people that I love and respect earing me,

593
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: and a lot of my plaques were stolen. That's another

594
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: story out of my call one day. That's why I

595
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: want to replace some of these. Two but bro double

596
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: back and Paul and Juice came to New all this

597
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: for concert. Mm hmm. Man Moose said, Man, let's go

598
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: down there, Let's go all at your people, Let's go

599
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: out of them. Man, we get down there, and uh

600
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: Mouse said, man, y'all should do an album together. And

601
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: it was like a light bulb. Just there's like a

602
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: light ball to this.

603
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 2: Dude, say you like a light ball to this, y'all y'all,

604
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 2: y'all should y'all should do the album together?

605
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 3: Like that?

606
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 2: Right, it's a dope by this. So Paul said, check

607
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 2: us out what you think, Juice, you want to do it?

608
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: Like man? For sure? Man, I'm with it. So they said, look,

609
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: let's start on it Monday. We're gonna hook up at Memphis. Right.

610
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 2: I heard nothing from Paul on Monday because he could

611
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 2: have been busy. They've been torn, right, I showed up

612
00:32:55,840 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 2: in Memphis on Tuesday. You pull what I just showed up. Look,

613
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 2: I remember the cold to get in the gate of

614
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 2: the parking lot. I was waiting in the parking lot.

615
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: And they pulled you. Paul said, my brother, I love you.

616
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: Let's work.

617
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 2: He said, these are the beats. He was in a breathcase. Remember,

618
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 2: boy had like a like he had a silver briacas.

619
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 2: It's a CD. Bad Boy had a breadcase and said,

620
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 2: these are the beats for the Unbreakables.

621
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: That was gonna be on our next album.

622
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 2: I'm about to play all these beats for you, so

623
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 2: we could might want to use something that's on our project.

624
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: Still. I did eight songs the first night and then

625
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: the rest of the songs and everything beats hooks I

626
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: mean beats, I mean features versus and hooks. Then I

627
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: messed around and did I said.

628
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 2: They was like, well, you could have produced the project.

629
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 2: So I'm geeked up. I'm like what then, Like, you

630
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 2: could have produced the project if you want? I said no,

631
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 2: I said, I was bro I was my I was like,

632
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my God made it. Like you

633
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. I said, no, y'all do the

634
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 2: beats on the majority of the album. Let me produce

635
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 2: one single.

636
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: That's what we did.

637
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 2: They produced the Tie album itself for one I did

638
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 2: a single called hands on It and bro We crushed it,

639
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 2: broke there made one point four million dollars generated in

640
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 2: six months.

641
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: Oh wow? Did the album ever get certified? I never

642
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,280
Speaker 1: seen anything for it, but AUDI should have been platting

643
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 1: by nothing independently. Yeah, so you made some money. We

644
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,479
Speaker 1: made some money, y'all. Y'all made some bread. Man, wain't

645
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: a little song, you know what? Man talked about them

646
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: for a minute. Man, I don't think people realize. Man,

647
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 1: that three six months, even when they was at their peak,

648
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: they were still releasing independent albums. Man select through his Hey,

649
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: shout out the rough Rider, shout out the rough Rider.

650
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 1: Hear me. I got the rough Rider. I was signing

651
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: rough Rider and I producing them. I'm working on stuff.

652
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 2: And they didn't know what to do with me just yet.

653
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 2: But they had enough vision to know that DMX about

654
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 2: to go through movies. Man, we could break fee him

655
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 2: just you know, shame, you know, keep that same energy,

656
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 2: but you know, maybe that vibe right and never know

657
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 2: what and show as I said, the DMXT week to

658
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 2: go movies, I want to record. And then we had

659
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 2: a situation happened at rough Riders and one of the

660
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 2: brothers had got into real.

661
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: Got to a really really really bad accent. Excuse me.

662
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 2: So they allowed me to put out independent projects all

663
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 2: the time I was signing a rough Rider inter scope.

664
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: That's dope, man. And a lot of labels don't do that.

665
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 1: What man, that don't know out there? That's usually a

666
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,879
Speaker 1: no note. Labels don't play well with other labels. Kids

667
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: used to always tell me, yo, man, look at it.

668
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: Look at this, dudes. Watch you know what I'm saying.

669
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: Kids will be like, yo, b what is you doing.

670
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm putting an independent projects, you know what

671
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And we ain't never get along with it

672
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: about it, you know what I'm saying. It just was like, oh,

673
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: but you know, until I was able to catch that

674
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 1: way that the spoke rough wider real push and support

675
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: me as a major artist. They didn't mind me feeding

676
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: myself independently on my on my indie stuff. For them,

677
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: that's dope, man, that's real dope. So we get all

678
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: these projects going along, man, and then you have really

679
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: started becoming known man more outside of a rap man

680
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: as a producer, ran a writer. You start doing a

681
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: lot of records man for different people. You looked up?

682
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 1: How did you look up? With the Cats over Atlantic

683
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: Atlantic Records happened?

684
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 2: Another great question to Atlantic Records happened from DJ Spen

685
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 2: linking over my brothers and Mosa and they had Mike Karen,

686
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 2: you know, this young and.

687
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: Executive from Atlantic Records, and he.

688
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 2: Was doing his one too, just checking on our records

689
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 2: were doing and talking to DJs, and he wanted to.

690
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: Meet kl se kl see what so happened? It was

691
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: a back rouge from the whole New Limit thing. We

692
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: still had properties out here and so we was out

693
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: here right. M Molsa gets in the card with Mike

694
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: Karen said, I'll bring you out there. How about I

695
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: bring you to KLC. He brings them over. I'm in

696
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 1: the studio. I'm sitting in the room rolling up writing

697
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: and he come introduced himself, Hey, what's up? You know

698
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: what you're doing? I'm like, shit, you know, trusting up

699
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: about this right? You know?

700
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 2: He was like huh, You're like, oh, I heard you're

701
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 2: a great writer. So we put up some vibes from him.

702
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 2: He loved them. He gave me an opportunity to write

703
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 2: for some artists that was on Atlantic Records. He gave

704
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 2: me one particular task. I knocked out the park when

705
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 2: it got on a movie as far as one of

706
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 2: the lead singles, and the rest was instrument. I signed

707
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,479
Speaker 2: the pub the first artist to sign a publishing deal

708
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,760
Speaker 2: with Mike Carron an Artists Publishing Group, and then.

709
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 1: In Bruno Mars. Then Bruno Mars signed the first first

710
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 1: two artists he signed over there. That's dope, man. So

711
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 1: you kept scaling up, then, yes, sir, I did. You

712
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 1: kept scaling up, and you and Mikey to this day

713
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: still have a really good relationship either way. You talk

714
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:38,720
Speaker 1: with him in a very high regard.

715
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 2: That's my guy, man. He gave me an opportunity. It

716
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 2: wasn't about it being a perfect opportunity and the worst

717
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 2: opportunity then okay, opportunity. It was an opportunity, and sometimes

718
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 2: I utilized it to my maximum potential and sometimes I

719
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 2: didn't know the value of it at times, but I

720
00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 2: still had someone to answer my calls or my emails

721
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 2: of my text willing.

722
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: To do some type of collaboration to this day. You know,

723
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: that's dope, Man, that's dope. You know, I want to

724
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,760
Speaker 1: move forward now. Makes we got a lot of exciting

725
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: things going on. Man, I think to where the space

726
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: is right now. You know, I'm all about having your

727
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: own platform, man, because you know, I've always been in

728
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 1: situations like I worked for a publishing company that started

729
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 1: with me being a writer over there, right, you know,

730
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: being a writer, I've always been able to kind of

731
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: see the next step. I went from being a writer

732
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: to being an executive, right. I really just understanding, man,

733
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 1: the way that songs are built and creating the business

734
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: of having songs, right, publishing is the most lucrative. Even then,

735
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 1: even when the physicals was around, publishing was the most

736
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: lucrative side of the business, just on the you know,

737
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: the intellectual properly having songs and putting those songs and

738
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: movies and movies, commercials, different things. You know. Now it's

739
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 1: you know, putting movies and utilizing songs on the internet. Right,

740
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: you have this whole you saw the whole ecosystem changed, right,

741
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: And I think to where it's going right now. It's

742
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 1: only your own platform. I remember, man, I always to

743
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 1: get people this anallyx y. I remember the MySpace days, right,

744
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 1: Remember when my Space people was getting record deals off

745
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: of MySpace. That was the first social media form that

746
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 1: people was getting record deals off of that, right, So

747
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: I remember, man, when I went to this published company

748
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: as a writer, those folks that wanted spent fifteen thousand

749
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: dollars on Remember how people used to get their MySpace

750
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,479
Speaker 1: page is done, and it wasn't like it is today

751
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: where you got templates that could do stuff pretty easy.

752
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,359
Speaker 1: Back then, you build a website, it was gonna cost

753
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: some money, right, So I remember hot meal was a

754
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: big thing, the code whatever it was to make the

755
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 1: you know, to have these little based stuff that's basic

756
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: right now, right, I remember those folks spend fifteen thousand

757
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: dollars on my MySpace page, man, only to have it

758
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: be disappeared two weeks later. And that's one of them

759
00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 1: because I got charges back. Now, they didn't give me

760
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: no and I got charge for that fifteen thousand dollars.

761
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: Right wow, I thought that That's when I learned that

762
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: these people are spend your money and charge you for

763
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: it on stuff that they want to do. So I

764
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: look up, I get a check, man, that check is

765
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 1: for like forty thousand dollars and I'm my hold on

766
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 1: this kind of light right here, you know, like where

767
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: oh well you we had to charge you back for

768
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: your MySpace page. And I said, I didn't tell y'all

769
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: to do that, and you know something, I didn't even

770
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 1: have no more, right, So I learned from that point on,

771
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: I said I would never build a business on somebody

772
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 1: else's platform because I had stuff on that page I

773
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 1: can never get back again. I had stuff I just

774
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: would never get back, pictures, certain you know, certain details

775
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 1: of my life. Right there was real pivotal moments. So

776
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: I decided at that point, man, I would never build

777
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 1: my business on somebody else's platform. Like even to this day, Man,

778
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: I post stuff on YouTube, but it's not my I

779
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: don't let that be my life. Where some people that

780
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: want out to build a whole business, because I say,

781
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: even though YouTube ain't going nowhere, they are very much

782
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: making a play to become like Netflix and everything else.

783
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 1: They may not want to mess with podcasts and different

784
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: creators no more, they don't have to. They make more

785
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: money I'm sure doing you know, YouTube TV and doing

786
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: their own stuff. Right. So I figured from that point on.

787
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: I said, Man, I am getting building my own platform,

788
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: and men, you got something that's about to drop. It's

789
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: gonna be pretty much your own platform twenty four seven day, Yeah,

790
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: you know fan Club twenty four seven, which I can

791
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: equate to pretty much being almost like MTV slash Vice.

792
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Flash the old Vice network, right, documentaries,

793
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 1: original series, you know, music videos, content podcast Right, that's

794
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: where y'all go see the gangst Chronicles at from here

795
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: on out, y'all probably see against the chronicles, who got

796
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 1: that fired? From ying out? Who got that fire on? There?

797
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 1: We got some other stuff coming. You know, I ain't

798
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: gonna speak. I don't want exect it too much. You know,

799
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: you got the haters out there praying, man on the side,

800
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: praying for your downfall. Can give them merck thing but

801
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: all everything. Man, But pretty soon y'all go see some

802
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: of the stuff that me and me and my partner

803
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: is doing. Man, now, you let me know if I'm

804
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: speaking on stuff too early. Y'all. Also just had that

805
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: verses man, that was amazing, And I would have if

806
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: I would have been a better man, I'd be up

807
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: a million some dollars right now. I told everybody. Man.

808
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: Everybody was like, who you think go win? I said, Man,

809
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: it ain't gonna be no question man, no limit about

810
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: to take the thing. But they didn't understand. I said, yeah,

811
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: cash Money got a lot of records. Shout out the

812
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: cash Money, Cash Money Records. It is probably the greatest

813
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 1: record label of the past. Money Records is the greatest

814
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 1: record label of all time. Thog they had the longest standing.

815
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 1: They still going to this day. Bro right, you know

816
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, They are still going to this day, man,

817
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 1: Brian or Ronald Williams or two of the greatest executives

818
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 1: of all time. It ain't no shade that you bird,

819
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: ain't no shaving nobody else. But the one thing that

820
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: No Limit had they had them streets. Man, hey, man,

821
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 1: you got your consumers, you got the people that rock

822
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: with you. And it was also a space early, you know,

823
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: a limit at one time it was worldwide.

824
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 2: Sooner cash Money eventually had our opportunity to come and

825
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:17,240
Speaker 2: get to the rest of the world.

826
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,439
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But at home they.

827
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 2: Already was I mean, tearing it up, tearing it up.

828
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 2: They like to feel me, but like I love to

829
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 2: see it period. They could have been take full records,

830
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 2: it could have been, they could have been anybody's regulabel

831
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 2: at home out of it. Still root for them the

832
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 2: same way, you know, like cash may no limit or

833
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 2: you know whomever just being from home a somebody medium

834
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 2: still to this day presently.

835
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: There's a big, big, big fish in that ocean like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Man,

836
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: I would say bird, yeah, Man, bird big Brian Man,

837
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: Brian and Ronald Man definitely Man. Maybe they put their

838
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,399
Speaker 1: flag planning their flag and hip hop right, I would say, man,

839
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: they probably the greatest late record hip hop label outside

840
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: of Death Jam, you know what I mean, They probably

841
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: the greatest. They for sure up on top, like right

842
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 1: they A would have to put them over to Death

843
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 1: Jam because they still even to this day, even when

844
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 1: you thought it was done, because I thought when Julie

845
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: left and Hot Boys broke up, it was I said

846
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: it's over. Then you had little Shorty want to put

847
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: the whole label on his back. You had Mixed Stake,

848
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: Wayne Thera, Wheazy hey bro. I meany labels you know

849
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: survive like that and and found resurfaced and rebuilder, rejuvenated

850
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 1: themselves and still come right back to be able to

851
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: collaborate with those artists that help build it such a

852
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: low tone, you know, it's lutom. I know, Man, lately,

853
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: I want to hear your thoughts on something lately. Man.

854
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: The Russell he just recently came out in said that

855
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: he wasn't a fan of Lil Wayne. He didn't think

856
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: Little Wayne was talking about nothing. Then I heard Joe,

857
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,800
Speaker 1: Butdens had his take, man, And this is what I

858
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 1: say before you get your opinion. What was your Button's tape?

859
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: Joe Button said that he didn't really he had a

860
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: problem with Weezy for the longest because he wasn't saying

861
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: nothing right. But this is what I say, and I

862
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 1: do remember this, not trying to start no mess. I

863
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: do remember if I hear, if I recall correctly, because

864
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: I got a good friend that was over in the

865
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: same camp as Joe. He was on you know, they

866
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 1: was slaughter House together. When Joe had the opportunity to

867
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: do a record with Wayne, he ran for it, ran

868
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: to it. You know, it was a big thing for him, right,

869
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,320
Speaker 1: So I don't know why his take would be different

870
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: now Now I didn't really care for his you know

871
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: thing at one time, you did because I tell you this,

872
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: Wayne has done stuff in the game that nobody has

873
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: done even to this day. I remember when it was

874
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: fiscal I remember when they were selling records for fifteen, sixteen,

875
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: nineteen to twenty dollars. Wesy A baby saw a million

876
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 1: copies this first week Easy not shipped out. I'm talking

877
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: about sound skinned across the counter, a million copies. Wayne

878
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 1: was doing rock Star ship though, to this day, Wayne's

879
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: doing rock Star stuff. So I don't think. I don't think, man,

880
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: no rapper right now in this game, Man, not even

881
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: Jay is he and nobody else can ever refute Wayne's greatness.

882
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: Dog Hey, Wayne is the most influential rapper dog ever

883
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,240
Speaker 1: of all time. Yeah, I think a lot of people.

884
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 2: I remember Jay Z said, like, you know, lyrically, he's

885
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 2: like tyleague quality, you know, but they won't hold.

886
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: You know, and and and.

887
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 2: So he's saying he could easily be I guess more

888
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 2: backpack hip hop. I think that's what he's interpreting, right,

889
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 2: more of of a.

890
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: You know, a brother that covers all grounds of the

891
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 1: people and the communities and and the good from the bad.

892
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 1: You know. I hope I'm not giving brother tally itally

893
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: equality my room. No, this is what Jay said. He's

894
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 1: said that it fun if lyrics so lyrically, I would

895
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 1: be to live qualite. You know. He was saying pretty

896
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: much that that type of shit don't say. You know

897
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: what I mean. He was like, I would be on

898
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 1: that shit if it's.

899
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 2: So we're saying the same thing, right, I'm saying that

900
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 2: I don't see what people wanted from Wayne outside of

901
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 2: what they got from Wayne.

902
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: Honestly, man, that's what the people wanted, right, So I

903
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: don't see. I don't see I don't I just don't

904
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: see it, like you don't, you know, I don't see it.

905
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: We're now listening to Uncle Luke Skywalker for Martin Luther

906
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 1: King Black History Moment. Yes, you know, yes, we know

907
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: he has the wisdom gearing me. But it's like going

908
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: to the club.

909
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 2: Graduation night of some college students and you're talking about

910
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 2: in the middle of the club at twelve thirty one

911
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 2: in the morning, the height of the club.

912
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 1: You want to hit John Legend, ordinary people. It's not happening.

913
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,240
Speaker 1: You know, we just go I think that some people.

914
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 2: I think he probably just said it really just to

915
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 2: make conversation and to play, you know, be on some

916
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 2: you know, I'm a kind of like side with that

917
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 2: type of perspective.

918
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 1: And don't you know what, man and I say this too,

919
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: we have to stop getting mad Man and making a

920
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: big deal a lot of people's opinion that that man's

921
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 1: right to have that opinion, right. I would never now

922
00:49:56,480 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 1: not get the wrestler or Joe for having the opinion, right,

923
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not mad at him. He got his

924
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: own o Woutlook, I just think that it's just I

925
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: don't think that people go.

926
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 2: To church to be bad people more statistically, you know

927
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like, you know, like that's how look

928
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 2: at it.

929
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: I don't think nobody ever looked that Wayne, you know,

930
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: for you know, I don't know what. I think. Every

931
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 1: artist has their own consumer.

932
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 2: And I think Wayne gave the epitome of top tier

933
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 2: MC regardless of whatever part of the earth or whenever,

934
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 2: part of the playing age front.

935
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And I would tell you this too, Bro,

936
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 1: I would tell you this. I do not think either

937
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,280
Speaker 1: one of those guys can match that boys to Nasty

938
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: in that studio.

939
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 2: Nah, I think it's I don't I hate to even compare.

940
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 2: I just think there was problem of a sound bite.

941
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 1: But it ain't. It ain't no compared, there's no you know,

942
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: there's no wrong saying that. There's no wrong of him

943
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: pointing out something that he thinks that he thinks isn't

944
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 1: serving what he would be looking for. But that's what

945
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 1: you got other artists for, right, Do you go the

946
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: Whole Foods looking for the best fried chicken in America?

947
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 3: Oh?

948
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 2: No, definitely not right. So I think, like that's the

949
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 2: reality of it. I think it's not fair. I think

950
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,359
Speaker 2: and Moore was just using Wayne as a sound bite.

951
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like, I think that's not fair.

952
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 2: Then Wayne, do say things is according to how you

953
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 2: want to take it with you if you want pain

954
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 2: and went through some things, survived some things, talking about

955
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 2: you know, being the best at something period, you know,

956
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 2: being the pitime of the best of some period. That's

957
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 2: the way he is, you know, if you want to

958
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 2: go to him looking for clam moment, I don't think

959
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 2: that you're the wrong.

960
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: Artist, you know.

961
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that's not fair. But I'm not

962
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:10,720
Speaker 2: mad at no one's opinion. You know, that's all the kings.

963
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 2: It ain't hurt nobody, you know what.

964
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: I think, Man, Wayne Man Wayne saying stuff sometimes that

965
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 1: has me scratching my head. Like he said, he's never

966
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: experienced racism, right, And I didn't understand that until I

967
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: talked to you one day and then he was talking

968
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 1: about that one day. And I think people had this

969
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: misconception of the South. They think that every white person

970
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 1: down in the South is racist and running stuff. Right,

971
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 1: you told me something one day, he said, Still, we've

972
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: never had a racist moment in New Orleans. Niggas will

973
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: tear this MOTHERFUCKERU. There's a difference between using the N

974
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 1: word and a burning cross in front of a house

975
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 1: some shit. You know what I'm saying, this is just

976
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: me personally. I'm not making it enlighted, lighthearted on where

977
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 1: it is happening at are taking anything away from the

978
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 1: people in those communities, you know, it's just me personally.

979
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 1: We more dominant. It's just Chocolate City. It's like DC

980
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 1: some that. You know what I'm saying that, Like, you know,

981
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,359
Speaker 1: it's it's you know, we start were starting to see

982
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: it knockcause the cameras exist on phones and ship so

983
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 1: you can get again some more things like that. But

984
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 1: we don't just have that typical you know, people ain't

985
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 1: bold like that that they are. You know whatever, you know,

986
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 1: things can go left, you know what I'm saying, because

987
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 1: it's just people just don't tolerate disrespect. It's not the

988
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 1: race is one thing.

989
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 2: People don't tolerate disrespect where I'm front, I think that's

990
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:39,879
Speaker 2: more than just a race thing, know what I'm saying.

991
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: So that that gives a little bit more clarity on

992
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: what Wayne was saying. I think sometimes people listen to

993
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: people and don't really listen in detail to what they're saying. Right,

994
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 1: Like Wayne said, you know, he said, hey man, and

995
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 1: he tells that story all the time about how a

996
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: white police officer saved his life.

997
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 2: It did so his his view of life is different

998
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 2: than the peoples. That don't mean that they don't exist.

999
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 1: Exactly. You know, he has this viewpoint. And he said,

1000
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: you know, we are all amalgamation of our experiences, of

1001
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: our individual experiences. Right. I'm originally from Cleveland, Ohio. I

1002
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:19,359
Speaker 1: came out here to California when I was seventeen years old. Right,

1003
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: I'm an old man now, but even so I'm still

1004
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 1: a kid from Cleveland, Ohio. Just because I've been in

1005
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 1: LA for thirty sumi years. Right for forty years. Right,

1006
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that I don't have that perspective of

1007
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 1: being a Midwest cat no more. I'm very much man

1008
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,399
Speaker 1: in tune with how racist this world can be. I'm

1009
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: very much in tune with poverty. I'm very much in

1010
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 1: tune with experiences some real ghetto shit, right, because being

1011
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 1: in the ghetto in Cleveland, being the ghetto in New

1012
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 1: Orleans is a way different experience than being in the

1013
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: ghetto in at Los Angeles. It's just different, right. We mean,

1014
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: you have seen the level of priverty dog that these

1015
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: cats probably are not a customed to. And that don't

1016
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 1: mean they don't have property out here. But it's a

1017
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 1: lot different, man, when you got twenty four to seven sunshine,

1018
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 1: hell lit Bailly rain out here, and you do have

1019
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 1: some resources out here to get to some things where

1020
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: you may have it, you may not have it in

1021
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 1: Cleveland or Howard, New Orleans. I feel that, you know,

1022
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: I feel that, Yeah, I think you know you're being

1023
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,359
Speaker 1: where you're from and being able to go to where

1024
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 1: you are and make sure my yourself. I think that

1025
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 1: is a real life testimony in itself. You know, I

1026
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 1: love hip hop. I'm a hip hop baby. You know

1027
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 1: hip hop kid. You know what I mean by that

1028
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 1: is I love it all West Coast. I was in

1029
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,919
Speaker 1: the seventh grade dressing like the DC A long black

1030
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: trench coat, black shirt, no la a King's at You

1031
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying from eighty eight twenty seven m

1032
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 1: Bird Ali girl. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, man, everybody,

1033
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: you know what you you talk about? DC Man when

1034
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: you play DC is probably the greatest Southern lyricists of

1035
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 1: all time. I think he's one of the greatest lyrics

1036
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 1: is period, the most impactful lyricist perience. I wondn't even

1037
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 1: just put it on where he's from. His first album

1038
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 1: was was I'm a little pushing you know.

1039
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:14,879
Speaker 2: I didn't know where he come from, and that should

1040
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 2: mean it more dope to me that I didn't know

1041
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 2: he was from Dallast. I just thought he was just

1042
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 2: another dope dude that Doctor Dre discovered came about and

1043
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 2: like they're about to make a phone the end up

1044
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 2: it was just different, and I appreciate the collaboration of

1045
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 2: Doctor Dre working with anybody, they had to be special,

1046
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 2: so I was. I was tuned in to the doc.

1047
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 2: Great great bars lyricism, great professionalism as MC.

1048
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:48,320
Speaker 1: You know, just just all around good too. I'm pretty

1049
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 1: sure you've met him before. I never met the Doc yet, Bro,

1050
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 1: I never met ye Man, good dude, man ud Man.

1051
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: I've had I've had the pleasure of interview on him

1052
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 1: two times. Man, just a good brother man. Me and him.

1053
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say we friends friends like that,

1054
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 1: but me and him talking on Twitter. We talked always

1055
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: in the inboxing Twitter, me and him talking. Man. I

1056
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 1: know how to get at him. I think I got

1057
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 1: his phone number, but I'm not the type to call

1058
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 1: people all the time. I'm not good.

1059
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 2: I got the ubmost respect, like I know because of

1060
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 2: this guy. I had just got into public school them

1061
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 2: in seventh grade, going to the eighth grade something like that.

1062
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 2: Seventh grade boy I was wearing at Los Angeles Kings.

1063
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 2: I needed that Los Ange Kings had like the Doc

1064
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 2: was wearing. Boy I had a black like wool trench

1065
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 2: coat wearing that shit like I ain't never seen no

1066
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 2: black kids that was doing.

1067
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 1: I was like, where was I going?

1068
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 3: Bro?

1069
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Speaker 2: What THEU I thought I was doing? But it was

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00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 2: so dope to me because I emulated that I didn't

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00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 2: that hip hop saved me. It helped raise me. You know,

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00:57:56,400 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 2: when I had all facets of versions of life. You know,

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00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 2: it wasn't just I got away. The songs didn't go.

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Speaker 2: I got away with the girl, I killed some people

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Speaker 2: and I lived half the level after. It was all

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Speaker 2: aspects of life, the good, ugly, the ups to down,

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00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 2: the lefts, the rights, you know, And that's what I

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00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 2: love hip hop.

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Speaker 1: You got a dose of reality and an uncle or

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00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: big brother cousin if you didn't have one or ain't

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00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 1: t that could teach you by some stuff in the

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00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: mix of it being cool with some swang. Yeah, I mean, well,

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Speaker 1: one of the things we're gonna be doing this fan club, man,

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00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 1: we are gonna be doing these documentaries man on artists,

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00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: and we are going to be doing when I say docs,

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00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 1: not just docs, man, but I'm talking about real biopics, man,

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00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 1: about like real real series man. Like just like I

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00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 1: had the Wu Tang Sago on Hulu. We are going

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00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 1: to do that. We go do one on Fiend, we

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00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 1: go do one on, we Go, do one on you.

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00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 1: I would love to go back and do one on

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00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 1: Big Boy Records. You see what I'm saying.

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00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 2: I know some of the family members. I can introduce

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00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 2: you when we go from there. We don't give them

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00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 2: too won't give them too much, but just know we

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00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 2: all platform that you'd be able to have access to.

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00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 2: And this is a platform that you'll be able to

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00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 2: share your content with the rest of the world. You'll

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00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 2: be able to see your payments on time, your payments

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00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 2: will be accurate. It's a company that you'll want to

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00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 2: grow with to see where we're going with it. And

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00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 2: you can help be a part of us, being our

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00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 2: own version of a Netflix or a Zeus network or

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Speaker 2: a w G n O or you know, our own

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00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 2: you know, Hulu or something.

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Speaker 1: We're looking to be able to make it to.

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00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 2: Everybody in the world like that's tapped tuning to us

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00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 2: if they look upon us as like the people like yo,

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00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 2: I like how home and move, and I like howye rocket?

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00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 1: Guess what? You may be working on, film, TV, TV shows,

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00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 1: whatever going on in your area. We could do together

1112
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 1: to help put your content to the world. You could

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01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 1: tell your story from where you are. You know what

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01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying through our network, you know what I'm saying.

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01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 1: To get that right, because we're doing business the only

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01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 1: one way to do it. That's the right way.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: That note, Man, I appreciate you man, coming to sit

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01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:20,919
Speaker 1: down with your homeboy. Man. It's just like us having

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Speaker 1: our regular conversations. Me and you talk to every day,

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01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: two or three times a day. Man, I appreciate you

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01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 1: coming on now, y'all make sure, man, y'all go out

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01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 1: and bang that album. Man, big shots, big shots available

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01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 1: now wherever you get your music. Man, I'm actually going

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01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: throw a link for y'all. You know, some of these

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01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 1: people lazy, bro, You got to guide them to it.

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01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 1: You know. I'm actually have a link for y'all man

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Speaker 1: for the Apple and Spotify in the description right down below. Man,

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Speaker 1: So y'all make sure y'all go check that out. And

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Speaker 1: on that note, man were gone. My boy eight couldn't

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Speaker 1: be here this week, man, because he's here. He's actually

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01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 1: a Milwaukee shooting a movie right now. I am in

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01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 1: that same movie. Man. Trust nobody apart four it and

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01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 1: I leave tomorrow morning to go film my parts. Man, y'all,

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Speaker 1: don't look out. On that note, we out of here.

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Speaker 1: We in the win. I'm in the whip peace. Well.

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Speaker 1: That concludes another episode of the Gainst the Chronicles podcast.

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Speaker 1: mica on the front of your screen. Subscribe to the show,

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Speaker 1: leave a comment and rating. Executive producers for The Gangster

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Speaker 1: Chronicles podcasts Norman Steel, Aaron M c a Tyler, Our

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Speaker 1: visual media director is Brian Wyatt, and our audio editors

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Speaker 1: tell It Hayes. The Gainst Chronicles is a production of

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