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Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to a Monday edition of Texas All

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Speaker 1: Access from the Greenbrier. In particular, it's our own little

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Speaker 1: as Mark says, Butler's Cabin slam and Sammy Butler butler

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Speaker 1: Cabin is not Butler's. I don't know, but you can't

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Speaker 1: mess it up because the Augusta National people will never

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Speaker 1: let you podcast from there. Then it's you know, patrons

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Speaker 1: instead of fans. Oh yeah, the cheese, you know, all

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Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. Welcome to everybody. That voice is

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Speaker 1: Mark Vandermer. I am John Harris. Glad to be joining

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Speaker 1: you as our trip to West Virginia years and and

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Speaker 1: if you're looking for a schedule, today was an off day,

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Speaker 1: but Mark and I there's no off days hashtag no

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Speaker 1: off days, no days off. But we had radio this morning.

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Speaker 1: We had John mcclan on, and we're actually gonna talk

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Speaker 1: about something later in the show that John brought up,

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Speaker 1: which I find I find fascinating. Here we'll get to

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Speaker 1: that later in the show. We've got plenty of guests

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Speaker 1: for you as always. We're gonna hear from Shane Leckler,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna hear from Brandon Dunne. We're gonna hear from them.

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Speaker 1: In particular. We'll have a couple others as well, Sammy Coates,

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Speaker 1: who is I think Mark. We've interviewed almost everybody on

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Speaker 1: the team, it seems between the four of us. I

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Speaker 1: think Sammy is top five interviews that week that we've done,

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Speaker 1: not a chance to talk to Sammy, but knowing the

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Speaker 1: interview that we had during free agency period or after

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Speaker 1: that right four offseason, he was fantastic. He's great. There's

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Speaker 1: a part of me that wants him to make the

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Speaker 1: I mean, you root for guys like that. You're root

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Speaker 1: for the good interviews. When you're in the media, you

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Speaker 1: root for the good interviews, but you root for winning

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Speaker 1: more than anything. I will tolerate people not talking at

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Speaker 1: all if they win, yeah, But if they don't win, well,

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Speaker 1: it's just not much fun at all anywhere. So it's yeah,

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Speaker 1: last year is a year I don't want to replicate ever, ever, ever,

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Speaker 1: ever again. I think last year in a way, I

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Speaker 1: know we didn't want to get into this right now,

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Speaker 1: but in a way it was harder than twenty thirteen

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Speaker 1: kind of like, I don't know, you just flatline toward

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Speaker 1: the end because you went it every week like all right,

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Speaker 1: this is just and after experiencing the Deshaun Watson fireworks,

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Speaker 1: tremendous letdown. Yeah, there's no doubt because you saw the present,

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Speaker 1: number four, and you went, we can be really good

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Speaker 1: injuries hit, and then of course we're all gonna I've

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Speaker 1: said this to a lot of people. I will never

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Speaker 1: forget where I was when I when I saw on

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Speaker 1: Twitter Ian Rappidport tweeting that he had torn his a

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Speaker 1: can't happen. And then the ironic thing was that Sunday.

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Speaker 1: I'll never forget that Sunday when I saw him reach down.

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Speaker 1: need to remember him. Mind. I'm going the Ash Shows

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Speaker 1: are gonna win this world series, and you're gonna take

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Speaker 1: as great place as you cannot be hurt, not right now,

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Speaker 1: And he was so, but it wasn't until a few

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Speaker 1: it was. It was not good. Speaking of the Shawn,

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Speaker 1: I bring this up because here's our schedule for the

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Speaker 1: next few days. We will still have Texas Training Camp

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Speaker 1: live tomorrow morning. We will have Texans All Access on Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: So tomorrow's a full day because it's the last practice

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Speaker 1: day here at the Greenbrier. Like I said, guys, the

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Speaker 1: then tomorrow full practice. We'll have everything for you as

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Speaker 1: we always do right there at Houston Texas dot Com

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Ten Wednesday, we will do our show, but

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Speaker 1: right after our show will fly to Kansas City with

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Speaker 1: the team and be there and get ready for preseason

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Speaker 1: game number one. Now, a question that Landry Locker gave

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Speaker 1: us this morning, I think is a fascinating one, Mark,

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Speaker 1: into this. When it comes to preseason, we don't see

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Speaker 1: how much do you see to Shaun Watson, how do

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Speaker 1: you much do you see J? J? Watt? How much

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Speaker 1: you're gonna see those guys? If it's one hundred and

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Speaker 1: twenty play game, you're gonna see them five players, You're

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Speaker 1: That's that's it. That's all you're really gonna get, if

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Speaker 1: think I think that's interesting. So you're thinking Watson. Whatever

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Speaker 1: get some more reps because they need the work. Those

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Speaker 1: in unison and harmony. Here's the way I look at it.

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Speaker 1: Somebody asked, asked me this, you know, how long will

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Speaker 1: the starters go? And I said, I don't look at

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Speaker 1: and so I look at it as there's Watson, Watt, Hopkins, Merciless.

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Speaker 1: Now we don't know whitney'll play. He left practice the

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Speaker 1: other day, really looks fine, and everything looks fine. But

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Speaker 1: I think Tyrant. I think those players play a drive

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Speaker 1: to play with fire in the preseason. There's no fired

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Speaker 1: heard about. But he's getting a lot of reps in camp,

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Speaker 1: Pope would be one of those guys, Johnny for sure.

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Speaker 1: depend on what Bill O'Brien, the opinion he has on

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Speaker 1: Jordan Thomas has more than held his own in camp,

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Speaker 1: to block. Really, in all honesty, he's learning how to block. Now,

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Speaker 1: But Jordan more than anybody because he played receiver. Now

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Speaker 1: Now he'll be detached at times. He might be attached,

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Speaker 1: Thomas will probably play a little bit more in this game,

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Speaker 1: just so he can get reps of just going against

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Speaker 1: utilizing your technique to block as a run blocker, that's

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Speaker 1: probably more important than the pass routes. I think. So,

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Speaker 1: I absolutely juncture because I think Jordan Thomas has proven

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Speaker 1: he can get open. Yeah, he can get open, that's

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Speaker 1: not that's not the issue. And he can catch football.

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Speaker 1: And he did not come out for the coin toss,

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Speaker 1: so that sucked. So but I did get a jersey

425
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Speaker 1: signed it from him for my birthday. My wife got

426
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Speaker 1: one through their punter, you know, kind of one of

427
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Speaker 1: the mail and hey, please get Bret sign us. But

428
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Speaker 1: got it's up in the game room. By the way,

429
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Speaker 1: happy early birthday. We're gonna be twenty seven, twenty eight

430
00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,959
Speaker 1: coming up and just rolling up to twenty eight. Okay,

431
00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:08,960
Speaker 1: what's your breakfast for camp? What do you eat every day?

432
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Speaker 1: I just an omelet in coffee. Yeah, sometimes skip the omelet.

433
00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,560
Speaker 1: Last thing, you know what postcards are? Do you send them?

434
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Speaker 1: If so? If not, who do they go too? I don't.

435
00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,560
Speaker 1: I don't can't remember the last time I sent a postcard.

436
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Speaker 1: Maybe my first Pro Bowl back in whatever that was,

437
00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:27,840
Speaker 1: oh one h two somewhere in there. I may sent

438
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Speaker 1: one home from Hawaii, but I don't know who I

439
00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:31,639
Speaker 1: sent it to. You. I think everybody was with me,

440
00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,000
Speaker 1: but I did you know, I may have just stuck

441
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Speaker 1: in the bag. Actually, good stuff. Well, Shane, thanks so

442
00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,480
Speaker 1: much for the time, best luck throughout camping onto the season.

443
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Speaker 1: Appreciate it, dream thank you. Excellent stuff there from Shane Lechler.

444
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,440
Speaker 1: I could only imagine what Shane did on his off

445
00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:49,760
Speaker 1: day today. My guess is he went fishing. The question

446
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,320
Speaker 1: would be did he take John Lopez with him? Yes

447
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,160
Speaker 1: or no? I would say yes. But at least Leckler

448
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,880
Speaker 1: gave Lopez some really good fishing spots. Because they're here

449
00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:02,159
Speaker 1: with in the loop. Now throughout training camp, Deepcity has

450
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,200
Speaker 1: been doing her training camp diaries with both Whitney Merciless

451
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Speaker 1: and Sammy Coats. So let's hear what Sammy has to

452
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Speaker 1: say about his daily routine and what he's been doing

453
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Speaker 1: in training camp diaries with Deepcitter Here with Sammy Coats

454
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Speaker 1: Training Camp Diaries number two, Sammy Week two for you.

455
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Speaker 1: First of all, I got to ask you about practice

456
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,679
Speaker 1: take because Andre Johnson was out here and being one

457
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 1: of the wide receivers. How cool was that to get

458
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,600
Speaker 1: to talk to him, you know, to send him right here.

459
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,200
Speaker 1: He given his advice on what we need to do

460
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:28,920
Speaker 1: better on the field. Man, one of the greatest guys

461
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,520
Speaker 1: that played his game, and the legs he left here

462
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Speaker 1: is one of the best legs he ever. So anytime

463
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Speaker 1: he says something to me, I'm wide eyes, ears panning open,

464
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Speaker 1: and I'm just taking an end because you can't get

465
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 1: too much greatness around you. So much him, How all

466
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,480
Speaker 1: these guys have just been doing as or did this.

467
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Speaker 1: It's awesome to have him. I mean, you're a veteran yourself,

468
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 1: but what can a guy like you learn from a

469
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Speaker 1: guy like Andre here? You know anything. All this tell

470
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 1: us what he did when he was playing, little things

471
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Speaker 1: he did to get his body ready on all the

472
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Speaker 1: things he did to prepare for a game or prepare

473
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Speaker 1: for a practice. Is just listened to a great player,

474
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Speaker 1: a great athlete, just to show you the way. All right,

475
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Speaker 1: let's talk about your routine because it's week two. So

476
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Speaker 1: we talked about what exactly you did every single day

477
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Speaker 1: in week one. But how is your routine changed? Are

478
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Speaker 1: you kind of in it now or are you changing

479
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 1: things up to keep it for USh in week two?

480
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,400
Speaker 1: You know, I did a different program this week. Going

481
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Speaker 1: into week two, I'm trying to get u a little early.

482
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Speaker 1: I've been getting up at six, coming in and getting treatment,

483
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 1: trying to do better care of my body so I

484
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 1: can stay on the field longer so I can play longer.

485
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Speaker 1: So I've been getting up at six and my routine

486
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:25,879
Speaker 1: is just being going here doing a little thing. It's

487
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Speaker 1: a little small exercise, balance and stuff like that, and

488
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Speaker 1: get my ankle mobility stronger. So it's a good routine

489
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Speaker 1: that got going. So I'm gonna keep this going, all right,

490
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Speaker 1: So how do you feeling in week two? You've had

491
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Speaker 1: quite a few practices. Now today was full pads. Is

492
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Speaker 1: it starting to set in that it's camp and it's

493
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Speaker 1: getting a little monotonous? Oh man, it's it's getting hot,

494
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,199
Speaker 1: our hairs up and down, raining one day, hot the

495
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 1: next day, your mind telling you to do one thing,

496
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 1: your body's doing the other. So it's it's getting to

497
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 1: that point where you're like, it's a middle camp. I

498
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,919
Speaker 1: can feel it. But it's a good grind. I love it.

499
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Speaker 1: It's it's a good push every day. So it's continue

500
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Speaker 1: to get better. What about guys like you? I know

501
00:22:58,280 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 1: you got a lot of stuff happening off the field.

502
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 1: You got your foundation, you got things like that. How

503
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Speaker 1: do you keep up with all that while you're in camp?

504
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 1: Because now it's been a few weeks, so do you

505
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 1: How do you keep up with your emails and your

506
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 1: Twitter and what's going on in the world outside of camp?

507
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 1: You know, I try not to worry about too much

508
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 1: going on outside of camp. Man. Everybody know, my family know,

509
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,880
Speaker 1: they know when I'm at camp, it's all focused. I'm

510
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 1: trying to do my best to get my spot on

511
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 1: the team, get my spot on on the field. So

512
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 1: it's all ground now and everybody that I talked to

513
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Speaker 1: everybody I deal with knows like it's work time, all right,

514
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Speaker 1: So do you do that like in the evenings, maybe

515
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 1: before you go to bed. Throughout the day, you just

516
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 1: find pockets of time when you can. You know, I

517
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:30,679
Speaker 1: don't have that much time, but you know, I use

518
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Speaker 1: this in a text or something, try to just show them.

519
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,479
Speaker 1: I'm still thinking about it. I know what. I'm not

520
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 1: talking to him much, but you know, I love my

521
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Speaker 1: family to delf and it's hard to be away from them.

522
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Speaker 1: But you know, you gotta do what you gotta do,

523
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Speaker 1: all right. So Kansas City coming up, you got less

524
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Speaker 1: than a week to go. How do things change? You're

525
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Speaker 1: getting ready for your first preseason game here. It's gonna

526
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Speaker 1: be awesome, and I'm ready to get back in the

527
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Speaker 1: game feeling, you know. I mean, it's been a long time,

528
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,360
Speaker 1: so that feeling just waiting and waiting. Now it's here,

529
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Speaker 1: so it's awesome. I'm happy, I'm getting decided. I'm might

530
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 1: here running around like a chicken with his head over

531
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Speaker 1: the head cut off, so it's fine. I'm so excited

532
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Speaker 1: to put this use in fom on for the first

533
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 1: time in a game. So that's gonna be awesome. All right,

534
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Speaker 1: we can't wait to see it. Sammy, thank you. I

535
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 1: said earlier, I think Sammy Coates is one of the

536
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Speaker 1: better interviews that the Texans have on this roster. I'm

537
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 1: so glad he's here and he's caught everything. That's exactly

538
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Speaker 1: what we wanted to see from him. Fantastic stuff from

539
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Speaker 1: Sammy Coates. Now, potentially the best interview on this entire

540
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Speaker 1: squad is Brandon Dune. And this D line room is

541
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Speaker 1: as good a room as you're gonna find. They're led

542
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Speaker 1: by Anthony Weaver, Matt O'Donnell, Brown University grad represent Yo.

543
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Speaker 1: He has joined the group and it is fun. They're

544
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Speaker 1: fun to watch on the field. On Sunday they were

545
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Speaker 1: running slant routes and fade routes. Then they were working

546
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Speaker 1: drills and they were tackling the coaches. It is an

547
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Speaker 1: excellent room. It's well coached. Anthony Weaver is one of

548
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Speaker 1: the better D line coaches in the entire league. He

549
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 1: played for the Texans and we've got to know him

550
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 1: very very well. And he's got a very unique group,

551
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 1: a very eclectic group, if you will. And Brandon Dunn

552
00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 1: obviously is at the forefront well he said down or well,

553
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 1: he stood up into the interview with Mark Vandermer and

554
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:07,399
Speaker 1: talked about who has control of the audio in the

555
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: locker room here at the Greenbrier. Is it DJ Dunny

556
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 1: or is it someone else? Let's hear it from Brandon Dunn.

557
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Speaker 1: Tell me the day off. How excited there are you

558
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,479
Speaker 1: about this six days in a row? Francs very very excited. Uh,

559
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,439
Speaker 1: the Greenbrier has been he's been some crazy weather going on,

560
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 1: all right. These last two days has been very hot.

561
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Speaker 1: You know. Two days ago was you know, it was

562
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Speaker 1: very rainish, you know, very puddle wish if you can see,

563
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Speaker 1: you know, I had a couple of you know, nose

564
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Speaker 1: dives into a puddle. But you know we made it

565
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Speaker 1: through it. You know, any hesitation in doing those nose

566
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Speaker 1: dives into the water or you guys, just no hesitation?

567
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,479
Speaker 1: That was you know, I brought back maybe a six

568
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Speaker 1: year old kid and seven ye old you're going to

569
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Speaker 1: a head first, you know, slide something I made, snow angel,

570
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 1: you did? I missed that one. So I noticed. You

571
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Speaker 1: guys seem to be the most jovial bunch of you.

572
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 1: Guys are always having fun, You're working hard, you're always

573
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 1: having fun with each other. The defensive lineary. Yeah, man,

574
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Speaker 1: I mean our jobs is you know, basically it's the

575
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 1: physical part, you know, physical and mental part obviously for

576
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 1: every position, but more physical with us, so you know,

577
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 1: we try to make fun of it. You know. Sometimes

578
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 1: you always compete against each other, you know, our coach Anthony,

579
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: we would have different games for us and stuff like that.

580
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 1: So it's always cool to come outside, you know, come

581
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: out here for practice ready, you know, obviously compete for

582
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: a roster spot. But you know some guys can you know,

583
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 1: you can do dress it sometime, we laugh, we kick it,

584
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. We're pretty close group. Now.

585
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: I'm not giving away any strategy secrets here, but everybody

586
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 1: could see you guys running slants earlier and running fades,

587
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: the defensive lineman doing passing trolls. What was that all about?

588
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 1: I mean, I suck the day. First of all, it

589
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: was a bad day for me. Uh you know, I

590
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 1: did win in a locker room basketball though, did win that.

591
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: But you know, you know, you know it's just another

592
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: thing is actually get us loose. I promise you do

593
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 1: it every Friday, you know, every light day, which would

594
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,360
Speaker 1: be like today. We do it every Friday, and uh,

595
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 1: we just knows how to get your body loose. Promise you.

596
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: Everybody think we're just having fun, but actually those slants,

597
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 1: those slants and he throws a good ball, so you

598
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 1: better catch them. If you drop it, it's five dollars.

599
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: Oh boy, that's that's a fine. So tell me something.

600
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Speaker 1: No force square, how much do you missed that? And

601
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: the stuff like what you were just describing replaced that

602
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: fourth scart was okay, you know what I'm saying. It was, Uh,

603
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 1: it was more of a risk game. You know. You

604
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: know a lot of coaches playing at that time with

605
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: no Cleatson on a slip piece of grass and we

606
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: had Cleatson. So it was just like you know, either

607
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 1: all rolled my angle, they follow on it, you know,

608
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 1: on it. But so we got rid of that game,

609
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: but we kept some of our classics. Buckboard. Uh you know,

610
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: we still do jeopardy in our room and uh, one

611
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 1: game I'm not gonna tell you about, but we actually

612
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 1: it's actually it's actually growing in our room. So you

613
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: know we're just gonna keep that on the on the

614
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 1: d L and keep that for myself. All right, So

615
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: tell me you're the DJ at home in the locker room.

616
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: How do you guys handle that kind of business here? Well,

617
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 1: it's three it's three locker rooms set up in three sections. Uh,

618
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 1: not thinking about four sections? And I'm maybe the third section.

619
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Speaker 1: And who was in that third section? After the DJ?

620
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: I'm DJ. I brought my speaker from from home, and

621
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Speaker 1: I got me a playlist for camp and uh, so

622
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: far the guy has been like it, what's your approach

623
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Speaker 1: at this stage in your career to the preseason games?

624
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: All right, Stills, it's the game. Uh my masset is.

625
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: You know, I'm still fighting for Ross's spot, you know,

626
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 1: day in and day out. So when that game come

627
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,199
Speaker 1: to the ROUNDNA, I'm gonna compete. Did you try to

628
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,360
Speaker 1: Viye to catch the punt that would get you out

629
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Speaker 1: of meetings? Tony? No, no, no, no, no. What I

630
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: was I was trying to coach my rookie out to

631
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: make sure he caught the ball. He was critical. You know,

632
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: it's a it was a guy to have a situation,

633
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,479
Speaker 1: and he had it. It's gotta be a rookie, right,

634
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Speaker 1: It's gotta be a rookie. You know, no vets that

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Speaker 1: you know, you know I could have called the ball

636
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: you know one handed eyes calls, you know those type

637
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 1: of band, but they want drift. Brandon, thanks a lot,

638
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 1: good luck, appreciate it, thank you. There you have it.

639
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: Let's hear it from Sammy Coach, Shane Leckler and Brandon Dunn. Now,

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00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame induction was this past weekend. Jerry Kramer,

641
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: Robert Doctor Doom, Brazil finally gets in. That was fantastic.

642
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: Brian Dawkins, Randy Moss, Bryan or Locker, Ray Lewis all

643
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: went into the Hall of Fame's past weekend. Who will

644
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: go into twenty nineteen? Oh, the class is deep and

645
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: John McClain talked about that with us earlier this morning.

646
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: Mark and I will go deep into the twenty nineteen class.

647
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: Who makes it, whose first ballot? And who's gonna get

648
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: the Terrell Owens treatment potentially in twenty nineteen. Will do

649
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Speaker 1: that next right here in Texas All Access. Next one

650
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Speaker 1: final segment of our money ed issue of Texas All

651
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Speaker 1: Access from the Green Briar John Harris with Mark Vandermere

652
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Speaker 1: from our own beautiful location overlooking eighteenth green of Old

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Speaker 1: White TPC. By the way, Yes, how did you play

654
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Speaker 1: it the other day? Uh? You know, I I hit

655
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: it early and often. Now I hit it. I'll tell

656
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: you what. I bertie two holes, which was pretty good.

657
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: So I made a couple of puts. Yeah, no, thanks

658
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: to the four caddy that you're required to have here.

659
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: Don't get me started on that guy. Nice kid. But yeah,

660
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: and I hit the ball okay, but I I think

661
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: I said it. That's one of the rough here is brutal,

662
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: and that's what makes this course tough. It's the rough.

663
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: There's not much water at all, it's the rough. I

664
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Speaker 1: love that eighteen is a part three. I mentioned that

665
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: a previous show. It's a very cool place. I mean, look, yeah,

666
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: I'm not a golf snob, though, Johnny, I really enjoyed

667
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: playing wherever I can play. I don't care. I mean,

668
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,959
Speaker 1: I don't care as long as it's a decent course.

669
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: I just love being out there. But this, with the

670
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: mountain views and everything, it's pretty breathtaking stuff. It is amazing.

671
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: And I believe after this show tonight, I will be

672
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: going back to the bro House and if I remember correctly, well, no,

673
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: it's still going. I believe Old White at some point

674
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: gets shut down. So we're gonna be playing at night

675
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: so we might be able to play spike ball out

676
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: on the fairway of Number four. This has become a

677
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: new thing in the bro house and I got it.

678
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: I got indoctrinated yesterday and so I go out on

679
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: a three and a half mile run. We got all

680
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: my stuff done. I got the writing done, got everything done.

681
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: I was like, I died didn't run because I didn't

682
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: get up in the morning. But I was like, I'm exhausted.

683
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: I moved houses again. I'm like, I'm just gonna go

684
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: do it in the afternoon. So I finished all my

685
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: writing stuff. I run. As soon as I come back,

686
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: I walk in and Jay McDevitt's like, don't go take

687
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: a shower, It's spike ball time. And I'm like, I've

688
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: been I've been wanting to do this, yea, So I

689
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: just okay, let's go do this. So I changed, I

690
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: get that those sweaty clothes, I put on new set

691
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: and we go out and play spike ball for about

692
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: two hours. About two and a half hours after running

693
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: three three and a half miles. Oh no, I want

694
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: a half hours of spike ball, which is just bouncing

695
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: the ball on a sort of do not minimize. I've

696
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: not benimizing. It's like a religious experience. When I did,

697
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: when I when we were done, actually I wasn't even done.

698
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: We were about halfway through. It was as somebody had

699
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: dumped a bucket of water on me. And it really

700
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: wasn't that hot, and we were playing. We were covered

701
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: by trees. You're playing. Shit. It was just but it's

702
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: so much to hydrate during spike ball. Oh I did.

703
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: We had a couple of waters, had a couple of

704
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: waters were behind I was. By the end of the night.

705
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: It was not great. And of course every time, you know,

706
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: we we got in a nice little run and then

707
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: they had to come back on us. And our buddy

708
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: Tyler Suttter Sudds was just like, run it back, run

709
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: it back. I'm like, yeah, yeah, run it back. You know,

710
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: the competitiveness just takes He is super competitive, one of

711
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: our video guys. You look up and it's just so

712
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: so Anyways, enough about spike ball. One thing that John

713
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: McClean brought up with us this morning, Mark and I

714
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: find it fascinating. And you actually called games with and

715
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: against a number of the players that are eligible for

716
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame in twenty nineteen and now Andrew

717
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: Johnson will not be eligible. It's a great question by

718
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: the van of kid earlier weather. Andre Johnson was elgie

719
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: is the elgible. He's eligible for twenty twenty one because

720
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: he played in fifteen with the Colts and sixteen with

721
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: the Titans and then retired that way through. So he

722
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: won't be up till twenty twenty one. But they're starting

723
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: to become a backlog of players that are gonna make

724
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen really interesting. Here are the guys that are

725
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: up for the first time in twenty nineteen. Okay, Tony Gonzalez, Yeah,

726
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: he's got to go right in. I mean he's number

727
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: he's first ballot, right, prolific tight end ever? Right? Or

728
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: did Witten pass him? Whatever? He's right up there. Yeah,

729
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: he's Witten passed him, I think barely passed him. Fourteen

730
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl appearances, six time first team All Pro, fifteen

731
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: thousand yards. I think he's the first time or first ballot. Okay,

732
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: here's another guy. And you called games in college and

733
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: pros against and four and read its safety Hall of

734
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: Famers first ballot, no questions asked. But and here's the thing.

735
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: In college, he was also fantastic and he was the

736
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: leader of that Hurricane team that won the O one

737
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: national championship. I've said this many times now. I know

738
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: as a Texan it was a miserable experience, but you

739
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: got to take that away. I mean, we're looking objectively

740
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: here at his pro football in college career. One thing

741
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: I like about the Basketball Hall of Fame better than

742
00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: the Pro Football Hall of Fame is that they take

743
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: everything into consideration. The BABA Fame. Yes, I think that

744
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,760
Speaker 1: it would be great. I know there's a college football

745
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,439
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame and a Pro Football Hall of Fame.

746
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: And it's not the NFL Hall of Fame. By the way,

747
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: boys and girls, I know a lot of people make

748
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 1: that mistake. It's not an NFL thing, even though the

749
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 1: NFL is the top league. Yeah, so the Pro Football

750
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame can theoretically take the CFL into consideration.

751
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: They really don't, but they can do it because it's

752
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: the Pro Football Hall of Fame. I wish there was

753
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: a football Hall of Fame because to me, a guy

754
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,240
Speaker 1: like Doug Flutie, for instance, would be in the football

755
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:40,720
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame because of contribution plus his great college career,

756
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: plus the CFL plus a little tiny bit of NFL

757
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: that was compelling, but not really amazing. Yeah, anyway, I

758
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: just thought i'd mentioned that that's interesting. By the way,

759
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 1: Gonzalez ahead of Witten. He's the most prolific tight end,

760
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,240
Speaker 1: but Witten right up there. I mean, we're talking about

761
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: two tight ends who are the top four of the

762
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: all time reception list. Yeah. Those three, well, those two, sorry,

763
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: those are two. There's a third one, okay that I

764
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: think could be a first bout. I think some people

765
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: might be mixed on this, but it's hard. It's hard

766
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: to deny when a guy makes twelve Pro Bowl appearances

767
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: and was a three time All Pro and he did

768
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: it with two different teams and was considered a shutdown corner,

769
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: which there really aren't many in the NFL anymore. Champ Bailey. Yeah,

770
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: and you know, it's interesting. He's a Hall of Famer.

771
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: I think he's All Famer two. But when you talk

772
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 1: about the greatest corners ever, his name is probably not

773
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: going to come up very high. And can I rewind

774
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 1: here a bit on the tight end talk, because if

775
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:46,280
Speaker 1: I talk about the greatest tight ends ever, tight ends, Yeah,

776
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,399
Speaker 1: but if I say, Johnny, who are the top two

777
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: or three tight ends who to ever play the game?

778
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: Is Whitten gonna be one of those guys? In your opinion?

779
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 1: He's prolific, he put up a ton of numbers, He's excellent.

780
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: I'm not saying Witten's bad, it's phenomenal. But is he

781
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: one of the best ever? Is Gonzales considered that? I

782
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: think I know exactly what you're saying. I think Gonzalez

783
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 1: now here, Gonzalez more than Witten. Here. Here's here's kind

784
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: of the way that I look at this in some sense,

785
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: because vander Kitt had a great question. He says, well,

786
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 1: why did I have to wait five years? I think

787
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: what five years does for you is maybe to truly

788
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 1: appreciate the greatness of a particular player. Witten just retired.

789
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: So we're just watching a guy that amongst the tight

790
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: ends in the NFL. You know, he had production, he

791
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 1: had he had the catches, he had the yards, he

792
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: had to touchdowns, he had all those things. But we

793
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: just saw Jason Witten this last year. He was doing

794
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 1: that for fifteen years. I think that's what it was.

795
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: I think five years from now we'll look back and go, oh, yeah,

796
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 1: Witt and win. Definitely, he's a Hall of Famer. There's

797
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: no doubt when I talk about the greatest tight ends,

798
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 1: I still look at Kellen Winslow, senior of course of

799
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: the San Diego Chargers, as one of the top three

800
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: tight ends to ever played. Again, I don't think there's

801
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: any question. And you know he's nowhere on this list

802
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: that high. And yeah, I'm talking about all time receptions, right,

803
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: I think absolutely not Kellen Winslow two. His dad. He

804
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: also changed the game too. He changed the game. The

805
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 1: modern tight end is essentially from the lineage of Kellen Winslow,

806
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: what Dan, what the Eric offense did for him. That's

807
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: where Ken There's no question. I think Gonzalez was kind

808
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: of in that vein too. Yeah, I think he was

809
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: kind of in that vein. And I think Whitten kind

810
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: of followed in his jet stream a little bit just

811
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: you know, years later, but he kind of followed in

812
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: his jet stream. And then those two I think were

813
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: the class at that position for a long time. But

814
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: but I'm I'm with you. I think what's what happens

815
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: with the more modern players. I don't with players that

816
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: played in the sixteen, seventeen and eighties. They were trans setters,

817
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: they were playing like Kellen Winslow played a position that

818
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: really didn't exist. These guys are just following in that.

819
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: They're following in that wake, if you will. But I

820
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,439
Speaker 1: think I think Whitton will be a first bout half

821
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: the number. The numbers are there. I think one thing

822
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: about it is you either have and this is to

823
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,760
Speaker 1: Winslow's point, you have to have a period of dominance

824
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,439
Speaker 1: and he was, or you have to change the game

825
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: the way the positions played, like Lawrence Taylor did ye

826
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 1: but also because in Kellen Winslow the same thing. Or

827
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: your production has to be so consistently good for a

828
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: stretch of time, right, Mike Witten, And that's I think

829
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: the ways that you're gonna get out out all right,

830
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: But let me throw this one at you, just while

831
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: we're on this subject. He's not eligible next year. An

832
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: Quan Bolden though, alright, got in. Yeah. Bolden is two

833
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: receptions behind Owens on the all time list, two wow,

834
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: two catches behind him. Yet I look at Bolden and

835
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,439
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, it's the longevity more than anything, right,

836
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: I Mean, at no time in his career is an

837
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: Quon Bolden considered one of the top three wide receivers

838
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: in the NFL. I don't believe so, but he's always

839
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 1: been solid, you know what I'm saying. Okay, let me

840
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: ask you this, what because this guy has been eligible?

841
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 1: I think he's been eligible for a few years now.

842
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Speaker 1: Who's that I would compare An Kuombolden to Isaac Bruce.

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Speaker 1: Isaac Bruce is a good one. I think about them

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Speaker 1: very similarly. Yeah, Isaac Bruce played in that, you know,

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Speaker 1: greatest show on turf and you look at his catch

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Speaker 1: as he's thirteenth on the list. Now, let's go to

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Speaker 1: Andre Johnson here for a moment. Who you just said

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Speaker 1: as eligible in twenty Andre Johnson is ahead of Isaac

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Speaker 1: Bruce in the all time receptions category. He's ahead of

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Speaker 1: Steve Smith Senior in the all time receptions category. Andre

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Speaker 1: Johnson is eleventh on the list, behind Regie Wayne. Is

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Speaker 1: Reggie Wayne a surefire Hall of Famer? I mean I

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Speaker 1: think the answer is eventually, yes, Eventually. I think eventually yes.

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Speaker 1: But he played with Peyton Manning. If Andre Johnson plays

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Speaker 1: with Peyton Manning and that's the selling point for John McLean,

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Speaker 1: it might be number one on the list. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: the selling I mean that's Jerry Rice with Joe Montana.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the selling point for John McClean room

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Speaker 1: is to put up Andre's numbers and then right underneath

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Speaker 1: put the quarterbacks that he did that with, right, because

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Speaker 1: there's you're gonna have shob for what two years as

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Speaker 1: a pro bowler? Right then? What and then he went

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Speaker 1: to Indianapolis where he had luck, but that was one

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Speaker 1: year at the tailor of his career and he was

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Speaker 1: you know, eight games or whatever Tennessee with Marcus Marriott.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you think about it from that perspective, that's

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Speaker 1: the selling point. But that's what's gonna happen. I think

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Speaker 1: a receiver, I think you're gonna get guys like Isaac

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Speaker 1: Bruce and then you got these tight ends and how

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Speaker 1: do you make sense of all the numbers? And I

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Speaker 1: think that's the one thing that makes Andre standout is

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Speaker 1: just that is that look at these numbers and then

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Speaker 1: look at these quarter well and it's also the subjective test.

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Speaker 1: Yes this is subjective, but like I just threw out

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Speaker 1: there with at what point was this guy considered one

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Speaker 1: of the top three at his position in the league?

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Speaker 1: Ant Quan Bolden his name might never have come up

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Speaker 1: in that. Maybe that's not deserved, but I just feel

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Speaker 1: like that's the case. And I love aunt Juan Bolden,

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Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, even though he's the Florida State guy.

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Speaker 1: But with Andrey Johnson, I think throughout the bulk of

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Speaker 1: his career, ninety percent of his career, he's one of

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Speaker 1: the top three wide receivers in the game. Yeah, Calvin Johnson,

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Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald. It's Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, Andre Johnson. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so it's those three. I think that when you do

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Speaker 1: that for like you said, for an extended period of time,

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Speaker 1: you've got to be considered in I think so too.

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Speaker 1: And I think Calvin Johnson's gonna be coming up pretty soon.

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Speaker 1: Andrea's coming up pretty soon. If Isaac Bruce doesn't get in.

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Speaker 1: Now you got this backlog, because you'd have an't kuom Bolden,

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have this backlog at receiver that I think

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Speaker 1: is gonna be really difficult. I know you'd try and merited.

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Speaker 1: I know you didn't intend to go all the way

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Speaker 1: down this road with some of this stuff, but you know,

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Speaker 1: once I got out a role with this, Johnny, I

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Speaker 1: can talk about this all day, because it's all it's

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Speaker 1: very interesting to pick a part and approach from different

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Speaker 1: angles and everything like that. And that's what makes the

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame voting very very unique and interesting. And

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Speaker 1: it's why I think, and I said earlier, I think

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Speaker 1: Tara Owens made a mistake in not going because I

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Speaker 1: don't think he has the full picture of what goes on.

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Speaker 1: John McClane does, and he talked about that earlier today.

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Speaker 1: Why do you want to do that, by the way, TiO,

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Speaker 1: I mean, don't get me started again. I've went off

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Speaker 1: on that this morning. Why do you really want to

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Speaker 1: do that to yourself? Enjoy your weekend, complain about it

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Speaker 1: when you get there, like we said, And that's that exactly,

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Speaker 1: and that's that. Mark. Appreciate it, my friend. Thank you, Johnny,

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Speaker 1: Thanks to DPCO, Thanks to Drew Doherty, thanks to Brandon

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Speaker 1: DJ Donny, to Shane Leckler, Sammy coach, to our guy

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Speaker 1: Joseph George. Back in studio. We are almost home, people,

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Speaker 1: but we will have more for you tomorrow right here

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