1
00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:15,680
Speaker 1: SWBC Mortgages, Dallas Cowboys Crosstalk.

2
00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:19,360
Speaker 2: Broadcasting live from the Cowboys Club at the Star in Frisco.

3
00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:23,320
Speaker 2: Brought to you by Blockchain dot com. Invest like your

4
00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:28,120
Speaker 2: icons with Blockchain dot Com. The National Medal of Honor Museum.

5
00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:33,600
Speaker 2: Join the mission at mohmuseum dot org. Buffalo Wild Wings.

6
00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,520
Speaker 2: If it's game day, Buffalo Wild Wings is the place

7
00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:41,400
Speaker 2: to be. All Tech Lancing Just listen. With All Tech Lancing.

8
00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:47,560
Speaker 3: Perfecting sound since nineteen twenty seven and by SWBC Mortgage,

9
00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:51,240
Speaker 3: customized solutions to help you meet your personal and business goals.

10
00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:53,720
Speaker 4: Visit SWBC dot com.

11
00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:55,680
Speaker 5: Now your hosts, Sebi.

12
00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:07,600
Speaker 6: Life and Happy Wednesday. Welcome into Cowboys Cross Talk live

13
00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:11,080
Speaker 6: on the Dallas Cowboys Radio Network, Dallas Cowboys dot com

14
00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:11,880
Speaker 6: and all other.

15
00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:13,640
Speaker 7: Social media platforms.

16
00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,360
Speaker 6: We're live from the Cowboys Club at the Star in Frisco.

17
00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:18,559
Speaker 5: My name is Jake Ritma.

18
00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,880
Speaker 6: From one O five to three, the fan honored to

19
00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,120
Speaker 6: be filling in for Cowboys insider Bobby Belt He's in

20
00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,440
Speaker 6: Detroit for tomorrow's matchup. Fired off to be joined by

21
00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,399
Speaker 6: my teammate. At one O five to three, the fan

22
00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,000
Speaker 6: Will Chambers and as always, we've got the three times

23
00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,399
Speaker 6: Super Bowl champ and six time Pro Bowler Nate Newton

24
00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:41,080
Speaker 6: and our Cowboys alum Tonight Walter Camp Award winner nineteen

25
00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:45,160
Speaker 6: ninety former All American at Notre Dame, a twenty nineteen

26
00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:49,320
Speaker 6: College Football Hall of Fame inductee, Rocket Ishmael, and I

27
00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,840
Speaker 6: owe the energy you got coming into this show.

28
00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:52,400
Speaker 5: Rocket.

29
00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:56,040
Speaker 6: I know we're gonna talk all about this Cowboys Lions

30
00:01:56,120 --> 00:02:00,200
Speaker 6: matchup and break that down, but our conversation before where

31
00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,000
Speaker 6: we took the air was too good not.

32
00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,600
Speaker 7: To bring to the air about college football.

33
00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:09,320
Speaker 6: It's conference championship weekend, your Notre Dame fighting Irish. All right,

34
00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,239
Speaker 6: there haven't quite punched the ticket, but I promised you

35
00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,000
Speaker 6: I was gonna ask you a little bit about that.

36
00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:15,120
Speaker 5: And Nate, I know you've.

37
00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,480
Speaker 6: Got some strong feelings as well, because hey, we all

38
00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,320
Speaker 6: play college football to get to where we want to be.

39
00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,239
Speaker 7: Tell me a little bit about another day guy.

40
00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:23,919
Speaker 4: This guy did not play college ball.

41
00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,359
Speaker 8: That is hilarious. All right. So first of all, I

42
00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:32,919
Speaker 8: do this hesitantly because I don't want to jinx anything

43
00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:37,480
Speaker 8: that has not yet happened. And so since we are

44
00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,480
Speaker 8: now on the sideline, is for when I say we

45
00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,840
Speaker 8: are talking about Notre Dame. Since we're on the sideline

46
00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,400
Speaker 8: waiting for the ticket to be punched, Like you so

47
00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:53,720
Speaker 8: eloquently put it earlier, I am just hopeful that nothing

48
00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:58,960
Speaker 8: that BYU in Texas Tech does messes up what potentially

49
00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,720
Speaker 8: is an eye opportunity for the Irish to make it

50
00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:06,080
Speaker 8: back to the playoffs. And I will say, I'm I'm

51
00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:11,600
Speaker 8: very thankful that the Irish have formed their identity now,

52
00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,840
Speaker 8: especially offensively. And I was a little worried after the

53
00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,040
Speaker 8: A and M and the Miami game and it was like,

54
00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,120
Speaker 8: we're still trying to figure out, you know, what the

55
00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:25,240
Speaker 8: identity was. But now with without UH, the two headed

56
00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:30,200
Speaker 8: UH running back attack and then the young car is

57
00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:35,080
Speaker 8: the quarterback who is tough getting better like every game.

58
00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:40,360
Speaker 8: I'm I'm I'm wholly confident that if the playoffs la

59
00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:44,360
Speaker 8: veil itself, that UH we have a chance to make

60
00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:45,400
Speaker 8: a decent run.

61
00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,800
Speaker 3: I love the irony also that we have one of

62
00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,560
Speaker 3: the greatest that's ever played at Notre Dame, and when

63
00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,840
Speaker 3: he played, Miami was a huge rival.

64
00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,440
Speaker 4: And now they've brought that game. And as we're looking.

65
00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,320
Speaker 3: At the press of the college football playoff, the two

66
00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,720
Speaker 3: teams that are like right next to each other. The

67
00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:08,920
Speaker 3: big conversation is between should it be Notre Dame or Miami.

68
00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,280
Speaker 3: If it comes to it, if BYU wins all that

69
00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:12,920
Speaker 3: the irony.

70
00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,280
Speaker 6: I love it, Yeah, and it's gonna be fun this

71
00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,480
Speaker 6: weekend plenty of eyeballs on all the different conference championships

72
00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,720
Speaker 6: and the implications that that has going on.

73
00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,080
Speaker 5: But before this weekend, we got a big game.

74
00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,760
Speaker 6: Thursday, and a little bit different of a Thursday night game,

75
00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,159
Speaker 6: especially after the Thanksgiving game, the Cowboys took.

76
00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:30,600
Speaker 5: Care of business.

77
00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:34,120
Speaker 6: Play really good football. Right now, Nate Newton, I'll start

78
00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:38,080
Speaker 6: with you. As this team continues to build some momentum,

79
00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,400
Speaker 6: you start to look at the bigger picture of the

80
00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,320
Speaker 6: season and you start to talk about some playoffs and

81
00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,360
Speaker 6: perhaps what this game means.

82
00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:51,240
Speaker 5: It feels like a playoff game a little bit. I

83
00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,719
Speaker 5: can't And you got me?

84
00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:53,960
Speaker 9: Now?

85
00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:54,400
Speaker 5: Got you?

86
00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:54,640
Speaker 9: Now?

87
00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,000
Speaker 5: You got me? Now let me say this right here.

88
00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:03,359
Speaker 1: I started this season out not knowing the record, not

89
00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,880
Speaker 1: knowing where the Cowboys would be. I saw them practice

90
00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,120
Speaker 1: in training camp, and I saw them practice against the Rams,

91
00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,159
Speaker 1: and I said, this team left a lot to be desired.

92
00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:17,480
Speaker 1: Leaving out of training camp, going through the evil Flus

93
00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,480
Speaker 1: thing trying to convince people that it wasn't coach evil Flues.

94
00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,680
Speaker 1: We just had that time did not have the quality

95
00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,200
Speaker 1: of players that we needed. It's too bad that we

96
00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:32,200
Speaker 1: waited until the trade deadline to get these two guys

97
00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,160
Speaker 1: have literally changed the way we play football on defense

98
00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,520
Speaker 1: and Quinn Williams and the Wilson kid. So right now

99
00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,720
Speaker 1: I'm looking at it. Okay, they put some building blocks

100
00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,159
Speaker 1: in place. I'm excited about those building blocks.

101
00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:48,120
Speaker 5: Playoffs.

102
00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:52,200
Speaker 1: I'm not even thinking about with me as an ex player.

103
00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:56,920
Speaker 1: I'm thinking one game at a time, and starting with Detroit.

104
00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,840
Speaker 1: You know, because I started with the Raiders, I started

105
00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:03,680
Speaker 1: with Philadelphia, I started with Kansas City. Now, starting with

106
00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,040
Speaker 1: the Raiders, can you handle prosperity?

107
00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:08,360
Speaker 5: Can you as a.

108
00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:14,120
Speaker 1: Team play enough cohesive ball to because you're putting on

109
00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,160
Speaker 1: a desperate team. You are a desperate team. What separates

110
00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,960
Speaker 1: that desteration? It ain't so much the talent, I think

111
00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,400
Speaker 1: is head and head on the talent. Now, will you

112
00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,119
Speaker 1: do the extra film work? Will you do the extra

113
00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,440
Speaker 1: things that will make you a winner come tomorrow night?

114
00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,080
Speaker 5: And in a show, in a show.

115
00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:36,320
Speaker 3: We've talked about this over years together, right and It's interesting.

116
00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,920
Speaker 3: That's one of the key themes that we've always talked

117
00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,000
Speaker 3: about when it comes to the Cowboys is are you

118
00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:45,359
Speaker 3: able to handle prosperity? Yeah, and the Cowboys clearly who's

119
00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:46,279
Speaker 3: the more desperate team?

120
00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:46,440
Speaker 5: Right?

121
00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,080
Speaker 3: You've heard that being asked this week. Well, technically the

122
00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,479
Speaker 3: Cowboys are because they pretty much have to win out

123
00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,960
Speaker 3: or just lose one game, and this isn't even the

124
00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:55,560
Speaker 3: game to lose.

125
00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,520
Speaker 4: But it feels like Detroit's probably more desperate.

126
00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,440
Speaker 3: You got one team that's going like this, The trajectory

127
00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,520
Speaker 3: is you got one team that trajectory is going down.

128
00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:10,040
Speaker 3: We thought last week and really that five games of

129
00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:14,160
Speaker 3: beating the former Super Bowl participants, it's going to show

130
00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:15,480
Speaker 3: you what the Cowboys are.

131
00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,280
Speaker 4: These are the games, especially this.

132
00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:23,600
Speaker 3: Coming up, that shows us more than anything else, and

133
00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,800
Speaker 3: the thing that I think Cowboys fans have been clamoring

134
00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,840
Speaker 3: for for years, show us what you're made of.

135
00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,040
Speaker 4: This is a game that they should have.

136
00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,920
Speaker 3: This is really lining up for them, and so can

137
00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:34,000
Speaker 3: you handle the prosperity?

138
00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:35,040
Speaker 4: I couldn't agree more with.

139
00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,160
Speaker 1: You, Rockett. My question to you is simple to this.

140
00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:41,720
Speaker 1: Right here, you've been in big games. I'm talking about

141
00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:45,920
Speaker 1: your college career where your last three or four games.

142
00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,280
Speaker 5: Y'all was fighting for the top four spots.

143
00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,400
Speaker 1: How did you feel as a college player being in

144
00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,320
Speaker 1: that situation where every week was big and how did

145
00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:55,000
Speaker 1: you handle it?

146
00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:55,840
Speaker 5: Wow?

147
00:07:55,960 --> 00:08:01,440
Speaker 8: So when I was in college, I I was blessed,

148
00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:05,400
Speaker 8: I would say, prior to college, after my father died,

149
00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:12,600
Speaker 8: I was blessed with a mantra that as a ten

150
00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:16,800
Speaker 8: year old boy I took with me all throughout high

151
00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:22,480
Speaker 8: school and then into the college ranks. And here's the mantra,

152
00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,520
Speaker 8: I'm always in the right place at.

153
00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:26,119
Speaker 5: The right time.

154
00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:33,920
Speaker 8: And so in college. In college, there was always a

155
00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:38,839
Speaker 8: confidence that I had because of two things. I was

156
00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,320
Speaker 8: always confident. It seemed like coach Holtz always knew what

157
00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:46,800
Speaker 8: to say, he always knew what to do, and if

158
00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:52,880
Speaker 8: it didn't succeed, it usually was a mistake that a

159
00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:53,720
Speaker 8: player made.

160
00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:55,400
Speaker 5: So that was the first thing.

161
00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,240
Speaker 8: The second thing, every time I looked around the room,

162
00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,199
Speaker 8: I probably felt how you would feel on those Super

163
00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:05,240
Speaker 8: Bowl teams where you're like, oh, yo, he's a man.

164
00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:09,280
Speaker 5: He's a grown man. He's a grown a man. Like

165
00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:11,160
Speaker 5: everybody you look at you.

166
00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,760
Speaker 8: Like, oh man, why I'm so nervous? Let me compack

167
00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,000
Speaker 8: it like that kind of thing. So I had that

168
00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:20,880
Speaker 8: type of feeling, and then however the game turned out,

169
00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,679
Speaker 8: especially if there was like a big moment where somebody

170
00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:28,000
Speaker 8: had to step up, I would always feel confident that,

171
00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,240
Speaker 8: oh man, if I got the opportunity to be a

172
00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:35,240
Speaker 8: part of whatever that big moment was, more times than not,

173
00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:36,280
Speaker 8: I was going to succeed.

174
00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,320
Speaker 5: And I'm gonna say this, and.

175
00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:46,040
Speaker 8: I say this just by just watching the body language

176
00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,360
Speaker 8: and feeling the spirit of this young man. I feel

177
00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:54,920
Speaker 8: like of all the guys on in that Cowboys locker room,

178
00:09:55,679 --> 00:10:02,120
Speaker 8: I feel like George Pickens feels like, man, just give

179
00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,120
Speaker 8: me a chance, just let me just get the ball

180
00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,839
Speaker 8: in my hands, and something good is going to help,

181
00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,440
Speaker 8: Like I feel every time I see him, I feel

182
00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,440
Speaker 8: so I'm feel so hopeful and excited. I'm right, oh

183
00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,880
Speaker 8: my God, like it always, and so I feel like

184
00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,880
Speaker 8: I can relate to him, you know, thirty years ago.

185
00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:24,120
Speaker 8: So it's like that, That's how I felt. That's the

186
00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,760
Speaker 8: that's the spirit that I suspect the Cowboys have.

187
00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:29,960
Speaker 4: I think we're hearing that.

188
00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,800
Speaker 8: I suspect that that's the spirit the Cowboys have, and

189
00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,160
Speaker 8: I feel like it's going to serve them well, and

190
00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,840
Speaker 8: I don't feel like dread or. I don't feel like,

191
00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:45,840
Speaker 8: oh man, we gotta play these guys like, I don't

192
00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:46,760
Speaker 8: feel that anymore.

193
00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,439
Speaker 6: Well, I think knowledge for a month, Yeah right right,

194
00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,319
Speaker 6: I run a Cowboys fan share that same sentiment, because

195
00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,480
Speaker 6: you're talking about a team that's made such a whole

196
00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:57,920
Speaker 6: one to eighty change from how they were playing at

197
00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,160
Speaker 6: the beginning of the year to how they're playing now.

198
00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,000
Speaker 7: And I wanted to ask both you guys.

199
00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,880
Speaker 6: Rocket and Nate here when a team makes some in

200
00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:10,360
Speaker 6: season moves that significantly impact them, and forget which player

201
00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,640
Speaker 6: it is, obviously, you know with the last.

202
00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:17,079
Speaker 1: Thing we had that impact, it was Mars Stotra trading

203
00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:21,360
Speaker 1: for him Mark Cooper, Mark Cooper.

204
00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Maris Steiner's posting up for the New

205
00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:23,520
Speaker 7: York Nicks.

206
00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,000
Speaker 5: I was like, hey, he put it, he'd be a

207
00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:34,880
Speaker 5: tight end. I'm a bread wow, Miami kid. That's the

208
00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:36,720
Speaker 5: last time, but go ahead on sir, I cut off.

209
00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,400
Speaker 6: Well, but the point being, what kind of life can

210
00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,640
Speaker 6: that breathe into a team When maybe you're in a

211
00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,440
Speaker 6: little bit of a funk and all of a sudden

212
00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,679
Speaker 6: you've got, you know, some new players that can positively

213
00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:47,520
Speaker 6: impact the team.

214
00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,360
Speaker 4: What does that do for everybody else?

215
00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:53,000
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm I'm just going to go with the scenario.

216
00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:59,680
Speaker 8: That I in person didn't experience, but I experienced by watching,

217
00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:05,000
Speaker 8: you know, cowboy documentaries, and to your point, the life

218
00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,719
Speaker 8: that Charles Halley brought when he came to the Cowboys,

219
00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:13,040
Speaker 8: and that that the expectation that Okay, this is the

220
00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:17,160
Speaker 8: this is the missing piece this and it became that

221
00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:22,720
Speaker 8: and the success that came from that that I by

222
00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:27,280
Speaker 8: watching was excited to see. And I'm sure in the

223
00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,240
Speaker 8: locker room nowadays, that's the same feeling that guys had.

224
00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,360
Speaker 8: If you bring somebody in there who can make a.

225
00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:36,120
Speaker 1: Difference, that's called a plus player with an A plus

226
00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,679
Speaker 1: attitude that values team played first.

227
00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,439
Speaker 5: What what what what we were battling?

228
00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,240
Speaker 1: What this team was battling from my outside looking in

229
00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:50,200
Speaker 1: was they had no leadership. Uh, they had that, but

230
00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,040
Speaker 1: that was fighting elements even in his own locker room.

231
00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:54,720
Speaker 5: Now, when you bring in.

232
00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,960
Speaker 1: A Quinny Williams and the first thing you hit, the

233
00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,400
Speaker 1: first three interview, you hear him say, I'm glad to

234
00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,839
Speaker 1: be here, I'm here to do a job. I want

235
00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,680
Speaker 1: to do my job. This a plus player bro that

236
00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,520
Speaker 1: has earned his stripes and then went through the bad times.

237
00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,160
Speaker 1: I mean, we can lose all our games as Cowboys

238
00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:18,439
Speaker 1: and we will never be Jets.

239
00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,360
Speaker 5: We'll never hear Jets shots fire truth.

240
00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:28,160
Speaker 1: So Ruth, he comes here where he is truly wanted,

241
00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:30,800
Speaker 1: you know, miss Jones how to put on the show.

242
00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,360
Speaker 5: So you know, he picked him up with the biggest memoi.

243
00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,680
Speaker 5: Probably loan in the airport, you know what I'm saying,

244
00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,760
Speaker 5: brought him up in the hill with his family. Probably

245
00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,439
Speaker 5: brought him up here where we're sitting there and.

246
00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,600
Speaker 1: Saying all that what you want, son, you with the

247
00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,800
Speaker 1: Cowboys A one, they came out and won the first game.

248
00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,040
Speaker 5: With dominated.

249
00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,319
Speaker 1: Then they came out and played the Philly Games, shot

250
00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:52,560
Speaker 1: them out in the second half.

251
00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:56,559
Speaker 5: And this kid next interview was I'm doing my job.

252
00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,120
Speaker 1: I'm glad to be here with these guys and they

253
00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:00,839
Speaker 1: allow me to do my job.

254
00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:05,360
Speaker 5: And Eba Frus he saved your job. You get what

255
00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:05,839
Speaker 5: I'm saying.

256
00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,439
Speaker 1: When you get an a plush player, and that's who

257
00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:12,480
Speaker 1: Charles was, you know, and then that's who Dione Sanders was.

258
00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:12,920
Speaker 8: Wow.

259
00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,319
Speaker 1: Wow, when you get a plush players and they come

260
00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,640
Speaker 1: in and do their job. What is a grunt gonna do?

261
00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:19,920
Speaker 1: What is Nate gonna do? I'm a roote hog and

262
00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:20,600
Speaker 1: do my job.

263
00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:21,080
Speaker 5: Let's go.

264
00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:23,280
Speaker 4: I did what I mean.

265
00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,720
Speaker 3: I think that Brian Schottenheimer takes a lot of credit

266
00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,640
Speaker 3: should for the mentality of this football team to start

267
00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:31,800
Speaker 3: out at you know, three five and one.

268
00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:33,760
Speaker 4: You know, only twelve teams.

269
00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,080
Speaker 3: In the history of the NFL have won three games

270
00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,560
Speaker 3: in their first nine and made it to the playoffs,

271
00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,000
Speaker 3: and the Cowboys have never done it.

272
00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:41,120
Speaker 4: I don't know.

273
00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,720
Speaker 3: And going back because there was a couple teams I

274
00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,600
Speaker 3: think than twenty three or twenty four was the Packers

275
00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,960
Speaker 3: and the Rams, and I don't remember those teams exactly

276
00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,320
Speaker 3: because in my memory, I can't recall a team that

277
00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,800
Speaker 3: definitely on one side of the ball, that was so

278
00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:03,240
Speaker 3: inept and seems so lost and there was just no chance,

279
00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:07,040
Speaker 3: just the hope that they could get somewhat mediocre that

280
00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,320
Speaker 3: would be enough because of how good the offense was.

281
00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,200
Speaker 3: To now turn around and you got a team that,

282
00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,960
Speaker 3: you know, since the trade deadline and the bye week,

283
00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,560
Speaker 3: they're like ninth in the NFL and third down they

284
00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,440
Speaker 3: were dead last. It's like twenty percentage points as to

285
00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,160
Speaker 3: where they're stopping teams on third down. It hasn't become

286
00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:29,120
Speaker 3: a mediocre defense, it's become actually a good defense paired

287
00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,040
Speaker 3: with an offense that had actually when they got healthy,

288
00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,080
Speaker 3: they started tripping up a little bit.

289
00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,800
Speaker 4: I just this misdirection.

290
00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,600
Speaker 3: I don't know, Nate, if you can remember a team

291
00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:41,240
Speaker 3: in the past that's been able to do this.

292
00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,000
Speaker 4: I don't think I've ever seen this before, and it has.

293
00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,440
Speaker 3: Me feeling like the Cowboys can play and beat at

294
00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,200
Speaker 3: right now anybody in the NFL.

295
00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:51,240
Speaker 1: The thing about it is when you look at the

296
00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:55,640
Speaker 1: Denver game forty four twenty four, you look at Arizonts,

297
00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:56,120
Speaker 1: they'd be the.

298
00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:57,440
Speaker 5: Twenty seven to seventeen.

299
00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,520
Speaker 1: And then in the next three games, I defense give

300
00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,440
Speaker 1: up sixteen, twenty one, and twenty eight, and that was

301
00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,920
Speaker 1: a Kansas City team to twenty eight.

302
00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,880
Speaker 5: I tell people like this and like no rushing yards. Yeah.

303
00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:14,400
Speaker 1: The thing is it's been teams over the years that

304
00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:18,400
Speaker 1: have brought impact and players that have brought impact.

305
00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,960
Speaker 5: But for a team to go dead last.

306
00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:26,120
Speaker 1: And scoring dead last, and turnovers dead last and sacks,

307
00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,760
Speaker 1: I mean, we were either thirty one or thirty two

308
00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:32,320
Speaker 1: in every major category defensively and This is what this

309
00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:36,720
Speaker 1: Twinny with him Williams Kid Logan Wilson done just by

310
00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:40,240
Speaker 1: lining up and not accepting I don't know where to

311
00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,520
Speaker 1: line up at now. We're not accepting that anymore. You

312
00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:47,160
Speaker 1: don't play. Go check the stats of the last three

313
00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:51,760
Speaker 1: games where our safeties have been in and out because

314
00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,080
Speaker 1: they're looking for the guys that want to do what

315
00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:55,120
Speaker 1: we're asking you to do.

316
00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,720
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, what the thing about it?

317
00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:04,320
Speaker 1: When Elite was getting beat Donovan Wilson was getting beat

318
00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,480
Speaker 1: out of position out before they got hurt. And I

319
00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:11,879
Speaker 1: tell people that he's right here. When your top players

320
00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:16,200
Speaker 1: come in and say do your job, we're not accepting.

321
00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:17,840
Speaker 5: You know.

322
00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,520
Speaker 1: You remember eight weeks ago we heard an interview like this,

323
00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:24,720
Speaker 1: Hey man, we're a man team. We you know we're

324
00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,600
Speaker 1: not a zone team. Oh man, god, why are we

325
00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:28,399
Speaker 1: playing zone?

326
00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:29,560
Speaker 4: What?

327
00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,679
Speaker 5: I'm like, Bro, you got at least try now.

328
00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,760
Speaker 1: This guy went down r and I don't hint nobody

329
00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:37,560
Speaker 1: mission in his name.

330
00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:39,840
Speaker 5: Come on, brother, do your job.

331
00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,800
Speaker 6: We're gonna continue diving into this matchup and where the

332
00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:46,240
Speaker 6: Cowboys might have an advantage against the Detroit Lions when

333
00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:47,399
Speaker 6: we come back.

334
00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,880
Speaker 5: Lots more to get into right.

335
00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:53,240
Speaker 6: Here, on the SWBC Cowboys Cross Talk right here on

336
00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:54,760
Speaker 6: the Cowboys Radio Network.

337
00:17:55,960 --> 00:20:08,000
Speaker 9: Clue, don't Cowwards, No Cowboys, don't Cowboys? Yeah yeah yeah.

338
00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,399
Speaker 8: H h.

339
00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:25,720
Speaker 5: H h yeah yeah.

340
00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:55,400
Speaker 10: At s w C Customized Solutions us blick away, visit

341
00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:59,960
Speaker 10: s w C dot com Star in your next adventure.

342
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 6: Welcome back to the Cowboys Club at the Star in Frisco.

343
00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,359
Speaker 7: It's the SWC Cowboys Crosstalk.

344
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:07,439
Speaker 4: We're coming to you live.

345
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,320
Speaker 6: I'm the Dallas Cowboys Radio Network, Dallas Cowboys dot Com

346
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:15,159
Speaker 6: and all other associated social media platforms. My name is

347
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 6: Jake Rietman from one O five to three the fan

348
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,399
Speaker 6: honor to be filling in for Cowboys insider Bobby Belt.

349
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,200
Speaker 6: Of course, we've got my teammate at one O five

350
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,800
Speaker 6: to three, the fan, Will Chambers. And as always, we've

351
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,920
Speaker 6: got the three time Super Bowl champion and six time

352
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,680
Speaker 6: Pro Bowler Nate Newton. Joined tonight by College Football Hall

353
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 6: of Famer Rocket Ishmael and Rocket Them.

354
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,920
Speaker 7: Do my best not to just talk college football the.

355
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,480
Speaker 5: Entire night, As promised, I gotta pay off the teas,

356
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 5: pay off the TA.

357
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 4: You don't have a problem with that, do yeah, saying well.

358
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 5: Will would love that.

359
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,480
Speaker 7: Will is a huge college football guy.

360
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,640
Speaker 6: But uh, listen, listen, we'll we'll maybe save some time

361
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,199
Speaker 6: for that at the end, because right now, before we

362
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 6: went to break, we're talking about just the one eighty

363
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 6: that this team has made, and you could make the

364
00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,520
Speaker 6: case that it's been with the addition of some key

365
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,920
Speaker 6: paces pieces defensively. Now as we zoom in on this matchup,

366
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,879
Speaker 6: the Detroit Lions are going the exact opposite direction. This

367
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 6: is the team that's lost four of their last seven games,

368
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 6: and everything that made the Lions who they were the

369
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 6: last two years, especially under Dan Campbell, that grittiness, that tenacity,

370
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 6: you're starting.

371
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 4: To see a defensive line.

372
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,439
Speaker 6: Yes, you're starting to see it evaporate a little bit.

373
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,160
Speaker 6: And it's the team that lost to Green Bay on Thanksgiving.

374
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,920
Speaker 6: And I think, just to tee it up from the beginning,

375
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,399
Speaker 6: these two teams, the Cowboys and the Lions, from a

376
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 6: scheduling perspective, both played on Thanksgiving.

377
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 7: So you don't get the mini by it's a week turnaround.

378
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,439
Speaker 6: What is that process like As a former player, you know,

379
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,239
Speaker 6: when you can stick to that routine and you're not

380
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,160
Speaker 6: necessarily upended in a short week, I think that's gonna

381
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 6: be a big opportunity, a big advantage for the Cowboys.

382
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 1: It gives both teams a chance to heal on their

383
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 1: regular schedules. You know what I'm saying, the trainers to

384
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 1: get to work with the players that are banged up.

385
00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 1: But I tell people this is the problem with Detroit.

386
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,120
Speaker 1: For the last three years there have been a dominant team.

387
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 1: And I always believe when you got good players, now

388
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,159
Speaker 1: you need to coach. But also when you get that

389
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,160
Speaker 1: good coach, you can't lose a rag. Now you can't

390
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 1: lose your tight end. You can't lose your best receiver.

391
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 1: I can't think of the kids name. You can't lose him.

392
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,160
Speaker 1: I get him banged up in a serious way where

393
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:30,160
Speaker 1: you got a gestures route tree uh and and then.

394
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 5: And Ben Johnson in his name with the bat.

395
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 1: This guy was so key he freed coach Campbell up

396
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,679
Speaker 1: to coach the rest of the team and to go

397
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 1: where he was needed most. Now coach is taking taking

398
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,679
Speaker 1: taken back to play calling duties, and your team is

399
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 1: kind of shaky right now. The same reason. And I

400
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 1: don't want to knock this kid because he's done a

401
00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 1: major job with Detroit, But the core that is the

402
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 1: same now what there was actually do with the Rams.

403
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 1: Now Detroit is kind of asking him, Hey, we need

404
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 1: to put our team on your shoulders.

405
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 5: He's not that type of guy. He's a carpenter.

406
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 3: I think that the biggest difference is somebody that you

407
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 3: mentioned who's actually going to be we thought coming back

408
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,120
Speaker 3: until he failed the physical and that was right now

409
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 3: at center. You know, when you've got a pocket passer

410
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 3: like Jared Goff, Yes, sir, the way to get after.

411
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 4: A player like that that is so efficient from the

412
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 4: pocket is getting pressure up the middle.

413
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 3: Any time that we saw anybody actually getting to Tom

414
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 3: Brady or some of those you know that just like

415
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 3: to operate within the pocket.

416
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 4: That's how you get to them.

417
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 3: And without that protection, that's really been the biggest issue

418
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 3: I think for Detroit this year because when you look

419
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 3: at them when he has dropbacks, they're a top ten

420
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,919
Speaker 3: offense as far as on target, right, it's like eighty

421
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:57,160
Speaker 3: three percent under pressure. These are the teams that are

422
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,719
Speaker 3: better than Detroit when the quarterback is under pressure as

423
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 3: far as hitting their targets.

424
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 4: The Browns, the Saints, right, the Jaguars, the Broncos.

425
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 3: I mean, those are not elite passers like Jared goff

426
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 3: camp Be and I think that's the biggest issue that they've.

427
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 6: Had this year, the start contrast of a Lions offense

428
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 6: that's in rhythm, giving golf time to throw the run,

429
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 6: setting up the play action pass.

430
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,360
Speaker 5: It like you said, it's night and day.

431
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 6: But Rockett, I want to ask you a question about

432
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 6: kind of what the situation is with the Detroit Lions.

433
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 6: So we mentioned I'm on ross Saint Brown, that's their

434
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 6: go to wide receiver, gets hurt in the Thanksgiving game,

435
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 6: likely not going to play still up in the air.

436
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 5: We'll call it questionable if you will.

437
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 6: And so that opens the door for Jamison Williams for

438
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,719
Speaker 6: the Detroit Lions. He's a speed guy, he's a deep threat.

439
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 6: What is it like on a wide receiver when all

440
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 6: of a sudden.

441
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,679
Speaker 7: You kind of lose that other dynamic.

442
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 5: Duo, the second member, and you have to be the guy.

443
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 6: Because I think that's really what the Detroit Lions are

444
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 6: looking at right now from a passing game perspective.

445
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 7: They really only have Jamison Williams.

446
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 5: Because you mentioned.

447
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 6: Laporta out as well, So as the wide receiver, do

448
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 6: your eyes kind of light up as you're the guy.

449
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 6: But at the same time, you got to understand that

450
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 6: you have a huge role to play as the only weapon.

451
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 8: So I can relate in as much that So I'm

452
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 8: in ra as the number one guy Detroit. And I

453
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 8: remember in ninety nine when I got here talking to Mike,

454
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 8: he was so happy because he was showing me.

455
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 5: He was like, hey man, this is.

456
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 8: How they're reducing my production and these are the other team.

457
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 8: This is what the other team's defenses do. So when

458
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,439
Speaker 8: you get here, he was diagrammed. He's like, this is

459
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 8: what's gonna happen. You're gonna be able to take the

460
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 8: top off. I'm one on one now I'm back to me.

461
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 8: The same thing I suspect is what's happening, and it's

462
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 8: the other thing. It's interesting the comparison because I'm in

463
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 8: ra he's the energy eater. It's a man and so

464
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 8: you can and so for me, Mike was I understood

465
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 8: what it meant when somebody would say, hey, man, so

466
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 8: and so is the heart of the team. I totally

467
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 8: understood it because when he got injured, it was just like,

468
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 8: oh man, there's a there's there's a cavernous deficit that

469
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:36,679
Speaker 8: is that I'm staring at right now, and yeah, I'm fast,

470
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 8: and I can run good routes and and Troy can

471
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 8: still get the ball to me and and it can

472
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 8: still run up. But man, when your heart it was,

473
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 8: it felt like like hollow as far as just when

474
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 8: you got into the locker room preparing. That's this man, Mike,

475
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 8: So I'm a raw he he represents that as well.

476
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 8: So that's more.

477
00:27:58,359 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 5: Than an x's and o's.

478
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 8: That is the spirit, the confidence, the inspiration, like all

479
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 8: of that is is and jeopardy. So I like their

480
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 8: coach though unlike the coach that we had, they have

481
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 8: like a spirited former player, so he can he can

482
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 8: make up for it a little bit.

483
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 4: Uh.

484
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 8: But I think the biggest deficit that they're gonna face

485
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 8: in Detroit is the spirit that I'm and Rob brings

486
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 8: to the tape.

487
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 6: And those are things you can't you can't measure, like

488
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 6: you're saying, you can't quantify that. You can say, all right,

489
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 6: we don't have this part of the game plan and everything,

490
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 6: But to your point, some of those characteristics are unable

491
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 6: to be measured and unable to be quantified.

492
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: You look at their secondary beat up that Safeties beat up.

493
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and.

494
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: Uh I saw like there they they're safety that I

495
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: have been heard all year and they've been pushing forward

496
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: and about seven eight games. Got to to say these

497
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: safeties sit down for a week or two and get healthy,

498
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: because you don't get better as the season goal, especially

499
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: if you have an injury, you don't get better. You

500
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: just maintain and trying to get through. Now it's really

501
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: hurting their team. It really is hurting their team, their

502
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: safety players. And so that opens the door for pickings.

503
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: That opened the door for CD. That gives Jay fer

504
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: a chance to get average more than five yards a catch.

505
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 3: And this is all leading back to the point you

506
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 3: were making in the last segment, right, all the stuff

507
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 3: that we're talking about.

508
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 4: The Cowboys have got to capitalize on this.

509
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 5: Yes they do.

510
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 4: They absolutely have to. This is totally set up for them.

511
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 3: I mean, pickins, CD and Dak right now are cooking

512
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 3: ferguson two.

513
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 4: Honestly, the whole offense.

514
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 3: Just seems to be in such a rhythm and outside

515
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 3: of Aiden Hutchinson, it's just been such a struggle, you know,

516
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 3: on defense for the Lions this year.

517
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 6: Well, they can't get pressure, which is a huge issue

518
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 6: and combined with the philosophy defensively from Calvin Shepherd and

519
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 6: the Lions. They want to play a lot of man coverage.

520
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 6: No other team in the NFL plays more man coverage.

521
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 6: Good luck with that, yeah, other than the New York Jets.

522
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 6: And so when you're asking guys to cover somebody for

523
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 6: four or five seconds, I mean Jordan Love for the

524
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 6: Green Bay Packers, say.

525
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 5: What you will.

526
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 6: He had all day during on Thanksgiving to throw four

527
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 6: different touchdowns. So Rocket, We'll wrap this segment by by

528
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 6: asking you this as a wide receiver, knowing everything about

529
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 6: a game plan in this instance where this team loves

530
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 6: to play man coverage but they can't get pressure on

531
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 6: the quarterback. As a receiver, knowing that going into a game,

532
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 6: I mean, your eyes got to be this big.

533
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 5: You got to be licking your child, how good the

534
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 5: quarterback is.

535
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 8: And if that was my quarterback, yeah, definitely be licking.

536
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 5: Absolutely.

537
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 6: It's the Cowboys Cross Talk program right here on the

538
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 6: Dallas Cowboys Radio Network.

539
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 5: When we come back, will continue.

540
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 6: Take a look at this matchup, maybe zoom out a

541
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 6: little bit and do some playoff picture conversation as well.

542
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 5: Don't go anywhere.

543
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 6: It's the s w C Cowboys Cross Talk right here

544
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 6: on the Cowboys Radio Network.

545
00:31:17,480 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 9: Cowboys No Cowboys, Don't Cowboys, tars.

546
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 3: Dad, Dallas Cowboys Cross the Cowboys Plot.

547
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 2: It's a Star in Frisco and.

548
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 7: Start your next adventure.

549
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 6: Hey, if you want to use what the pros use

550
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 6: about Jack Black, the official men's skincare brand of the

551
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 6: Dallas Cowboys, visit get Jack Black dot com today. That's

552
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 6: visit get Jack Black dot com today. Welcome back to

553
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 6: the Cowboys Club at the Star in Frisco for the

554
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 6: SWBC Cowboys Cross Talk. We're coming to you live on

555
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 6: the Dallas Cowboys Radio Network, Dallas Cowboys dot com and

556
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 6: all other associated social media platforms. My name is Jake

557
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 6: rietma from one of five to three to the Fan.

558
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 6: I'm honored to be filling in for Cowboys insider Bobby Bell.

559
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 6: Fired up to be joined by one of five three

560
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 6: the fan teammate Will Chambers, And as always, we've got

561
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 6: the three time Super Bowl champ and six time Pro

562
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 6: Bowler Nate Newton and our guest tonight, the twenty nineteen

563
00:34:55,440 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 6: College Football Hall of Famer Rocket Ishmael and guys as

564
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 6: as former players we can have these conversations. Obviously they're

565
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 6: not going on within, uh in the locker room. But

566
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 6: when you look at the turnaround that this Cowboys team

567
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 6: has made and the path that they're on having won

568
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 6: the last three games, and again, I don't want to

569
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 6: get carried away.

570
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 5: By any means.

571
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 6: But if they continue to take care of business, if

572
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 6: they continue the upward trajectory that they're on, we're looking

573
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 6: at one of the dramatic turnarounds that a team has

574
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 6: done within a season. And again, we don't have to

575
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 6: get carried away with playoffs by any means, but that

576
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 6: becomes part of the conversation.

577
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's have a little fun.

578
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 6: And I just didn't want to get in trouble by

579
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 6: saying I had playoffs and end up like Jim Morris

580
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 6: playoffs playoffs, But.

581
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 7: At the same time, like this.

582
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 3: Well, Nate's right, you know, like what Nate said earlier.

583
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 3: As a player, you know, you guys, you took a game.

584
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 1: By game you in this case, you really do, because uh,

585
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: if this was the first half our schedule and that

586
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: you know where you it's some teams you should have beat.

587
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: You know, we look back now to barras well. The

588
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 1: Bears is better than we thought of Carolina. Wow, they

589
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 1: clicking now, But at that time we were supposed to

590
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: get on those two teams and we didn't. So if

591
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: we was playing those teams now they were normally who

592
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: they used to be, we would be like, oh yeah, playoffs,

593
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: I'll be like, yeah, man, we can't beat the bars

594
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: in Carolina, but this is two Super Bowl participants that

595
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: we just.

596
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 4: Beat in five years.

597
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so uh, that's why you can't slip now

598
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 1: because if you lose the Detroit all that hard work, man,

599
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: all that dedication, all that right, and then you slept.

600
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 5: You know, because Detroit is hurt. Yeah. They it ain't

601
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 5: just a physical thing right now.

602
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: They're trying to find the mental swag. They trying to

603
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: get it. And believe me that. Ah well, you know,

604
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: so he growling, he wants to bite. Yeah, So what

605
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: do you think about that? My friend?

606
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 8: Man, I feel like everything that you just said is appropriate,

607
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 8: and I'm going to stick with what I said at

608
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 8: the top of the segment. Nothing wrong with being happy,

609
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:22,240
Speaker 8: nothing wrong with having hope, nothing wrong with good vibrations

610
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 8: and expectations. And I'm not gonna be braggadocious about it,

611
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 8: and I'm not gonna be annoying to people if I'm

612
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 8: reading the room and they seem like they're annoyed with

613
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 8: my exuberance. But man, I am.

614
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 5: I'm excited.

615
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 8: I'm excited even though I'm combat, Like you said, one game,

616
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:49,240
Speaker 8: I'm excited for this one one game, and I'm excited

617
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 8: that that Detroit is a little vulnerable and we have

618
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 8: some momental.

619
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 3: Well here, being the shock jock, do Nate knows that

620
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 3: I am here? I will go there a little bit,

621
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 3: and you and I've worked together over many years. I'm

622
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,240
Speaker 3: gonna just try to say, what is it right now?

623
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 3: If I look at the top five teams in the

624
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,240
Speaker 3: NFL and I throw records out and I'm like, Okay,

625
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 3: who's gonna beat this team? Who's not gonna beat this team?

626
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,919
Speaker 3: In my opinion, there's like two or three teams ahead

627
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 3: of the Cowboys, and that's it.

628
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 4: Just like how they play the last three weeks, if

629
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 4: you're in the.

630
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 6: Blindfold neutral site, that whole deal, right, And if they

631
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 6: are to come back and to make the playoffs, this

632
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 6: will be a run, a dramatic run, as you put it, Jake,

633
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 6: that we have not seen before with the Cowboys, and.

634
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 3: It will be such a story. I mean, the Cowboys

635
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 3: are already to lead story in the NFL regardless. Now

636
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 3: you're adding the Cowboys onto the fact that they could

637
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 3: be a three win team after nine games that goes

638
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 3: into the playoffs, and then the questions come in, can

639
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 3: this team perform like they did in the regular season

640
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 3: in a playoff game? Because that until we see that

641
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 3: that is gonna be a stigma that's not going to

642
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 3: leave Dak and not going to lead a lot of

643
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 3: these other players.

644
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,280
Speaker 6: I would say that let's have some fun with some numbers,

645
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 6: because I got a couple here, and I know my

646
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 6: guy Will Chambers always does as well. The Cowboys currently

647
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 6: this according to the Athletics Playoffs simulator, have a twenty

648
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 6: two percent chance to make the playoffs. Now they run

649
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 6: the table that goes up to ninety eight percent. So

650
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,399
Speaker 6: pointing out the obvious a little bit there.

651
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, so we all look at it that the

652
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 3: Cowboys at the most have one game to lose.

653
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 4: If they lose a game, you look at the remaining.

654
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 3: Schedule and you're like, Okay, you feel favorable when it

655
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 3: comes to Washington.

656
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 4: When it comes to the Giants.

657
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 3: You got the Chargers on the schedule and you've got

658
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 3: the Lions.

659
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 4: You don't want the NFC loss.

660
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 3: So if one of those losses happens to be tomorrow night,

661
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 3: your chances are below fifty percent, even if you win

662
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 3: the rest of those games.

663
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 4: However, if you win.

664
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 3: All the games and lose one and it happens to

665
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 3: be the Chargers, you're at a little bit above fifty percent.

666
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 4: But I'll say this right now.

667
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 3: The confidence that I think I have in this team

668
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 3: obviously comes from how the defense has played over the

669
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 3: last few weeks. But Dak Prescott has this year the

670
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 3: most yards, most completions, most first down completions, He's the

671
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 3: best on third down, he's got the best completion percentage

672
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 3: under pressure, and he's the only quarterback in the NFL

673
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,280
Speaker 3: who has completed sixty percent or better in a game.

674
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 3: In each and every game this year, I've never seen

675
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 3: Dak play this good. I was skeptical coming into the

676
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 3: year because I was worried about the ankle, and you

677
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 3: know the.

678
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 4: Progression of that as the years go by. He's been sensational.

679
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 3: But again, Nate, I'll bring it up because Nate said it,

680
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 3: can you handle prosperity, And this is where the Cowboys

681
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 3: have faltered over the years. They got lucked into getting

682
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 3: what was it, the two seed two years ago.

683
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 7: Three years two years yeah, two, you got twenty twenty three.

684
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, those two seasons, even though they went twelve and five,

685
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,240
Speaker 3: they were two and two down the stretch.

686
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 4: They won't be able to go two and two down.

687
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 3: The stretch, but they were still a very good team

688
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 3: that played horribly in the playoffs.

689
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 4: This is lined up to be wild.

690
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 6: The other part of that, too is you look around

691
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,240
Speaker 6: and obviously the path to the playoffs through the wild

692
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 6: card makes a lot of sense.

693
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 7: But Philadelphia Eagles, they're not playing great football right now and.

694
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 6: That type of effect that they can have in you know,

695
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 6: you don't do too much scoreboard watching by any means,

696
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 6: but that's not out of the realm with possibilities either.

697
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, what do you guys, let me ask you both

698
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 4: about that.

699
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 5: What is their record?

700
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: Because yeah, it's good, it's Philadelphia's record.

701
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:45,240
Speaker 4: Eight and three.

702
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 7: They just lost again to the Bears.

703
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 6: Let's see that put them at right now, they're still leading.

704
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 5: Eight and four.

705
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, eight and four, so they're a game and a

706
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 6: half up because of that tie.

707
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,919
Speaker 4: When you guys, have ever played teams. I'm sorry, Rocket

708
00:41:58,920 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 4: go ahead.

709
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 8: No, no, Well, I just wanted to circle back before

710
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 8: we get too far away from the point you made earlier.

711
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 8: As you were reading the stats and everything regarding Dak

712
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 8: and just the way things are turning out and manifesting

713
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 8: the I'm gonna go back this offseason, Coach Eidenheimer invited

714
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 8: all of the old guys come back and just participate

715
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 8: in one day of ogas and I mean from the

716
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 8: first team meeting to the breakout meetings, to getting on

717
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 8: the field eating with like the whole nine, and during

718
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 8: the team meeting, which was kind of bizarre to me

719
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 8: because it was like, like typically you feel like you're

720
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 8: going to the office and it's like very stern focus whatever. Man,

721
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 8: this thing felt like a carnival of football fantasies and delights.

722
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 4: But this is the thing that it's all carnival.

723
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 8: So I'm reading the room of all the young men

724
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 8: and everything. And there was one point where Coach put

725
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 8: something on the massive movie screen and said, Okay, Dak.

726
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 5: Break this whatever we talked about.

727
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 8: In this protection or this new concept, we're going to

728
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 8: add to day, break it down for the team and

729
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 8: present it. And when he stood up and he started speaking.

730
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 8: Two things came to my mind. Grace and authority. And

731
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 8: that's not something that I take lightly when I sense

732
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 8: those type of things. So I'm watching them, and just

733
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 8: when I say grace, think of favor and think of

734
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 8: power to accomplish what you've been put on this earth

735
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 8: to accomplish. So and then the authority to do the same.

736
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 8: So fast forward, have the meeting, whatever, we go out

737
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 8: onto the field. Now I'm down there with him when

738
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 8: they're doing the receiver and quarterback drills, and it kept

739
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 8: coming back to me, Grayson thirty. So I walked over

740
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 8: to him, I said, hey, man, FYI and I shared

741
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 8: with him some insights and those were a part of it.

742
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 8: And he looked at me and it was like, you

743
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 8: know how you guys are talking about handling prosperity and

744
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 8: being able to have the to have what it takes

745
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 8: so that it doesn't overwhelm you.

746
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 5: I'm telling you.

747
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:30,280
Speaker 8: It felt like he was so grounded and so in tuned,

748
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 8: and it was like he knew it and he was

749
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 8: thankful for it, and he was thankful for me recognizing it.

750
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 8: And then when I saw just the first game and

751
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 8: I was like, oh, snap what this this is a

752
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 8: this cat is on fire. I expected that what you

753
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 8: just read earlier in the segment was going to be

754
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 8: the results that we saw in the field, So I

755
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 8: just wanted to say that and.

756
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 4: Also to go into it. I mean, it's a great point.

757
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,959
Speaker 3: That's kind of where I was gonna lead you guys

758
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 3: to ask about Philadelphia, because it doesn't seem that that's

759
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 3: what we're seeing, right Grace and authority. If I were

760
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,959
Speaker 3: to put two words together as the way we hear

761
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 3: for the Philadelphia locker room, those two words be very

762
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 3: far from that.

763
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 8: So watch this, man. They don't have a Michael Irvin.

764
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 8: And I'm telling I know I might be redundant, but

765
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 8: remember not talking about the spirit. Like, there's certain characters

766
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 8: on the team that even if they're chaotic, they have

767
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 8: a strong presence and there has to be somebody and

768
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 8: hope ideally it's a player. There has to be somebody

769
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 8: who can step to a player that is a strong character.

770
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 8: But right now, he's kind of chaotic and he's bringing

771
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 8: that spirit to the locker room and somebody can step

772
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 8: to him and say hey man, hey man, hey man,

773
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 8: I feel you, but this is not the time this

774
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 8: is not the way. Let's get it right, Let's let's

775
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 8: straighten back up. And I don't since that Philadelphia has

776
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 8: that guy in a lot of people will just assume

777
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 8: it's the quarterback, but that's not necessarily the case.

778
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 3: Well have you guys been in locker rooms like that

779
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 3: where you've been able to really.

780
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Mike Irvan, right, yeah, but I asked the

781
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 5: question before my man went into Uh.

782
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 4: That was good, Yeah, that was good.

783
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: All I want to know is when is Philadelphia's record

784
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,919
Speaker 1: and who do they have to play to close out?

785
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 1: Because we are six five and one, there are eight

786
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: and three, eight and four, eight and four.

787
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 5: The bottom line is the first one to tend bro.

788
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's a tougher road for Philly.

789
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, but who do they play?

790
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 7: They do have the Commanders twice, but.

791
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, then you get into the scoreboard.

792
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 4: Watch well, right, but they play at all?

793
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, they do have to play at Buffalo the Raiders

794
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 6: on there as well, though, Yeah, they.

795
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 11: You know that's not the yeah right now, Yeah, that's

796
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 11: a that's a tough pill to Let me say this.

797
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: See that's the overall theme rocket and I'm looking at.

798
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 5: That's why I say the Cowboys have to cherish every.

799
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: Game because the way Philadelphia schedule finishes. I know they

800
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: are struggling, but a couple of these scenes they better

801
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 1: be at the Chargers.

802
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 8: Gonna start right into the play out.

803
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:36,399
Speaker 6: Let everybody, everybody all the way.

804
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, car, I love it, I love it. All right.

805
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 5: We'll tell your ball and this when we come back

806
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 5: that next time.

807
00:47:42,680 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 11: The PC Cowboys Crosstalk showing Cowboys right down, No.

808
00:49:14,360 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 12: Cowboys at SWBC.

809
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 6: Customer solutions for individuals and businesses are just us away.

810
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 6: Visit SWBC dot com to learn more and start your

811
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 6: next adventure. Welcome back to the Cowboys Club at the

812
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 6: Star in Frisco for the SWBC Cowboys Crosstalk. We are

813
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 6: coming to you live right here on the Dallas Cowboys

814
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 6: Radio Network, Dallas Cowboys dot com and all other social

815
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 6: media platforms. My name is Jake Ritma, from one of

816
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 6: five to three the FANDO. I'm honored to be filling

817
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 6: in for Bobby Belt Cowboys Insider. That's because he's in

818
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 6: the Motor City before the Cowboys take on the Detroit Lions.

819
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 7: We got Will Chambers. Yeah, he did say it's snowing.

820
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,720
Speaker 7: He said he's got a hoodie. He said, it's snowing,

821
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 7: and you guys know, I'm a Michigan native.

822
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,839
Speaker 6: So I gave him all the warning signs and told

823
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 6: him everywhere to be aware of. So we got three

824
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,720
Speaker 6: time Super Bowl champion, six time Pro Bowl Nate Newton,

825
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 6: we got the twenty nineteen College Football Hall of Favorite

826
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,720
Speaker 6: rocket Ishmael with us right now.

827
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 5: I'll start with that.

828
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 6: I mean, the Lions play inside a dome, so Ford Field,

829
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 6: they don't have to worry about how cold it is.

830
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 7: But it's snowing right there in Detroit.

831
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 5: And what was if you.

832
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 6: Remember one of the coldest games you guys ever played it.

833
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:58,240
Speaker 8: The coldest game I ever played in in North America

834
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 8: was in Winnipeg, just south, say no more. It was

835
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 8: the nineteen ninety one Great Cup. It was November and

836
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,399
Speaker 8: it was the first time in my life I saw

837
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 8: football make a chemical change because of the elements, and

838
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 8: the leather quite literally became glass like like literally throwing

839
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 8: a wine vase. It was crazy. So that was the

840
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 8: coldest game I've ever been in in North America. Coming

841
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 8: a little south was when we played AMC Championship game

842
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 8: against Green Bay, and I remember it was like minus

843
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 8: thirty or something like that, or not minus thirty, maybe

844
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 8: it was like minus fifteen or something. And I just

845
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 8: remember Bryan as warm as I could get. I come

846
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 8: out of the locker room for pre game, and so

847
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 8: I typically jog straight down. Then I go to my

848
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 8: little individual then whatever.

849
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 5: Man. By the time I jogged out of the locker room.

850
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 8: And got to like the fifty, I couldn't feel my feet,

851
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 8: not my toes, my literal foot on each leg.

852
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 5: I couldn't feel my feet. My nostrils were ice ridden.

853
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 5: So now I'm breathing ice ridden.

854
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 8: Now I get to the end zone and something in

855
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 8: me was like, oh, hell, the devil is a lie.

856
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 8: I will not suffer to be And I ran right

857
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 8: back up into the locker room and stayed in there

858
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 8: until after they called the national anthem was played, and

859
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 8: then when I came back out, my culture was like, hey.

860
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 5: Man, we're all in.

861
00:53:53,000 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 3: So I'm thinking my Nate Newton, the Southeastern guy.

862
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 1: Now we played in Green Bay towards the end of

863
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: my career, and uh, I.

864
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:12,720
Speaker 5: Hurt my knee. It was so cold.

865
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: It was cold, and I hurt my knee, and uh

866
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 1: they took me in wrapped before halftime and Daniels, what's

867
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: I can't brit Daniels. He looked at me and he

868
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 1: was goin to ask me, Hey, you think he didn't

869
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:30,720
Speaker 1: even finish.

870
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 5: He's like, I know you're done.

871
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 1: Ain't no, man, you We're gonna wrap it, do this,

872
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: he said. You think I'm looking at him like and

873
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: so so here's another Green Bay for you.

874
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 8: I'm with the Raiders at this point, and we went

875
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 8: to Green Bay. So it's it's like in enhanced coldness

876
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 8: because you're coming from like seventeen degrees being the lowest,

877
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 8: and all of a sudden you're thrown in the Green bayness.

878
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 8: In the end of the season, the dog gone mud

879
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:08,879
Speaker 8: on the field fro It was like a reverse ice

880
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:12,320
Speaker 8: spikes like literally it was spikes all over the field.

881
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 8: And I knew we were in trouble because all of

882
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 8: us had like fur coats on underneath our dog on jerseys.

883
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 5: And their number one.

884
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 8: Player, a guy by the name of Sterling Sharp. He

885
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 8: comes spotting out the locker room, had no sleeves on,

886
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 8: his arms were looking like legs. He had like all

887
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 8: that was a layer of like petroleum jelly dasoline.

888
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 5: He looked diesel. His legs.

889
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 8: He didn't have no pads in his pants, no long

890
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:49,439
Speaker 8: Johns or anything, and his slacks will all rolled down

891
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 8: and he was just out there like, oh, we are

892
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 8: in trouble.

893
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a good thing.

894
00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 6: The game played in the Dome for that and dark

895
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 6: Cowboys though absolutely still yeah they're gonna be able to

896
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:06,720
Speaker 6: go while on that Lion's defense.

897
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 5: Looking forward to that.

898
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 6: But my thanks to rocket ishmael my thanks to Nate

899
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 6: Newton and Will Chambers.

900
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,959
Speaker 7: This has been the Cowboys Cross Talk Show.

901
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 6: Glowell, thanks so much for tuning in right here on

902
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:25,320
Speaker 6: the Dallas Cowboys Radio Network.

903
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 5: At ATND we get work.

904
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 2: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and

905
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.