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Speaker 3: Just because it took you a little bit longer doesn't

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Speaker 2: Okay, now, baby dead ass.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I'm Kadeen and I'm Devout and we're the Ellis's.

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Speaker 4: You may know us from posting funny videos with our.

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Speaker 5: Voice and reading each other publicly as a form of therapy.

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Speaker 2: Wait, I make you need therapy most days.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 5: Oh, and one more important thing to mention, we're married.

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Speaker 6: Yes, sir, we are.

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Speaker 4: We created this podcast to open dialogue about some of

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Speaker 5: Things most folks don't want to talk about.

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Speaker 6: Through the lens of a millennial married couple. Dead ass

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Speaker 6: We about to take philos off to our whole new level.

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Speaker 5: Dead ass starts right now.

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Speaker 2: All right, story time? See what I did? Was I

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Speaker 2: Was like, I'm feeling I am failing. I have nothing

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Speaker 2: So I was that was gonna be my next question

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Speaker 3: your by the signs and you go to touch the

439
00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,320
Speaker 3: patient he's cold, and you're like, oh, okay, so he'd

440
00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:18,560
Speaker 3: been shift left that for us, that's the nursing thing.

441
00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,919
Speaker 3: You know, we have a little bit, you guys, a

442
00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,919
Speaker 3: little a little oh, this is the shifting. You know,

443
00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,440
Speaker 3: somebody feels like one it's more lazy than the other.

444
00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,280
Speaker 1: But I won't go into that. I know, I know,

445
00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,200
Speaker 1: that's a different talk, it's a different topic. So so great.

446
00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,480
Speaker 1: So four years I'm doing the LPN work at the

447
00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,480
Speaker 1: nursing home. You feel confident enough now to say, you

448
00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,080
Speaker 1: know what, I'm ready to progress onto the next phase.

449
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:41,240
Speaker 2: So what was the next phase for you?

450
00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,880
Speaker 3: The next phase was an LPN to r N program. Okay,

451
00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,280
Speaker 3: so what was that? That was like an accelerated program.

452
00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,280
Speaker 3: I had to drive all the way to Harlem twice

453
00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,080
Speaker 3: a week and get all this is done. That was

454
00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,800
Speaker 3: probably the most intense part of this whole nursing process

455
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,679
Speaker 3: for me. Both not masters with hard but this was

456
00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,840
Speaker 3: probably the most intense process because it's a lot of learning.

457
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 3: Like the scope of practice for a LPN and an

458
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,119
Speaker 3: RN are totally different. And that's what I had to

459
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,840
Speaker 3: learn to stop thinking about me being an LPN and

460
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,560
Speaker 3: I have to think about nursing now in an RN's mindset.

461
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Speaker 2: So leveling up in a say exactly, and not thinking

462
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,719
Speaker 2: about what I've been doing. You know, you've already been practicing, gotcha.

463
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 2: And that program was how many years?

464
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Speaker 1: That one was about a year and a half, a

465
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Speaker 1: year and a halcause it was an accelerated program. Oh

466
00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,440
Speaker 1: accelerated too, Okay, so a year and a half for

467
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,159
Speaker 1: LPN school a year and a half. So we're a

468
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Speaker 1: total of three years now to become an RN.

469
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Speaker 2: Yes, so now I'm an RN with an associates serree. Okay.

470
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Speaker 3: So the thing with that is hospitals don't want associate series.

471
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 3: Hospitals want bachelor's gotcha. So I'm still at the nursing

472
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Speaker 3: home at this point. I did get the opportunity to

473
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Speaker 3: be a supervisor, so I was a supervisor for the

474
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Speaker 3: three tail eleven shift, and then I also progressed to

475
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Speaker 3: being the associate director of nursing.

476
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 2: Oh wow, and I was twenty four. I forgot about that. Yes,

477
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:56,920
Speaker 2: yes you were.

478
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Speaker 1: So those are like major accolades that you're accumulating in

479
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 1: a short period of time. But I guess proving yourself

480
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 1: that you're worthy and capable of having that kind of responsibility.

481
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 1: It was just a matter of having the degree title

482
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 1: that can propel you into other opportunities exactly.

483
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Speaker 3: And that also made me realize that management wasn't for me.

484
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 3: It made me realize my mom was in management for years,

485
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,360
Speaker 3: and I felt so much like her that I was like, Oh,

486
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 3: I'm exhausted. This is not for me. This is all paperwork.

487
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 3: I'm not talking to patients, this is not it. So

488
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 3: you weren't being able to care for people exactly. So

489
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Speaker 3: that pushed me to go on for my bachelor's right

490
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 3: covid hit, I was working in the nursing home and

491
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Speaker 3: also online school at MEDGA evers. From my associates to bachelors,

492
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 3: that was another year and a half online school. We

493
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,159
Speaker 3: were trying to figure that out. It kind of was

494
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Speaker 3: an easier way because they didn't know what.

495
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Speaker 2: They were doing. We didn't know what we were doing,

496
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 2: and we just kind of like that path. That was

497
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 2: a learning curve. Everybody it was everybody in school.

498
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was awful. So I finished Medica evers. So

499
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Speaker 3: I graduated with my bachelor's. While I was in school,

500
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Speaker 3: I'm about my last semester, I started applying, so I'm

501
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 3: like oh, I need this COVID money. Do I see

502
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 3: the COVID money coming in?

503
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:06,119
Speaker 2: Then apply.

504
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 3: I ended up getting a call back from Mount Sinai

505
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 3: Emergency Department.

506
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 1: Bruh Emergency Department during during COVID. So that just so

507
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 1: you went from being in the nursing home to essentially

508
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 1: being catapulted into the emergency room during COVID.

509
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:25,360
Speaker 3: The largest emergency department in New York. If you talk

510
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 3: about getting jumped into.

511
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 2: Anywhere, I take the cold dead body in the nursing.

512
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 1: Home over getting thrown into COVID in the emergency room.

513
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 2: That's insanity. It was.

514
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 3: That's why you were so stressed. Yeah, it was a lot,

515
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 3: but I learned a whole bunch, right. I was there

516
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 3: for about two and a half years. And then during

517
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Speaker 3: this time, you had some kids, right you had h.

518
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Speaker 2: I had a couple of kids.

519
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 3: I had a couple of kids from that time period.

520
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Speaker 3: But I think the most impactful berths of yours were

521
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,439
Speaker 3: Kaz as well as Dakotas.

522
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Speaker 1: So those who don't know, Sakari was alongside me when

523
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Speaker 1: I did my home births, which was the story a

524
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 1: ton of times on different platforms with you guys about

525
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 1: having the home birth, and I made the switch from

526
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 1: hospital to home and a midwife care versus an obgui

527
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 1: n care with my births pregnancies. Really for Kaz and Dakota, yep,

528
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 1: so Zakari was alongside my midwife through majority of the process,

529
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Speaker 1: because Sakari was really at that point teetering on what

530
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 1: area of nursing you wanted to specialize in?

531
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Speaker 2: Correct, So what was the what was that like for you?

532
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 1: I guess being in the space because you know, of

533
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,199
Speaker 1: course there's the sentimental attachment me being your sister, but

534
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 1: thinking with a nurse's hat on in that moment alongside

535
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Speaker 1: someone who's a seasoned midwife.

536
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Speaker 2: What did that?

537
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Speaker 1: What did that spark in you that made you feel like,

538
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: you know what, maybe I want to alter my course

539
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 1: of studies.

540
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Speaker 3: So I always knew at that point I wanted to

541
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 3: be a nurse pectitioner, right. I just there's different routes

542
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 3: in their spectitioner. There's psych, there is family, there is

543
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 3: adult care and this woman's and I just didn't know

544
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 3: much about the women's health part of it. But I'm like,

545
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 3: I've experienced these births with my sister. I've had extensive

546
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 3: conversations with Taki or her midwife, and she's explained to

547
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 3: me what she does and the group that she cares for,

548
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,239
Speaker 3: and I was just kind of enamored that this can

549
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 3: just be your main focus. And you know, at that point,

550
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 3: we're also hearing about so many things that are happening

551
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:28,880
Speaker 3: in just women's health, like misdiagnosis, also like birthing stories

552
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 3: that just go wrong because they're not being heard or

553
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 3: not being educated either. So like this honestly made me like, Okay,

554
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:40,120
Speaker 3: women's health is it? But I think it was Dakota's birth.

555
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 3: I think I tell Takia this. Actually recently, she was

556
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 3: explaining to me her job as a midwife, and I

557
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 3: was just like, oh, you're on call twenty four to seven.

558
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 3: You don't have a life. Yeah, you can't really schedule holidays,

559
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 3: you can't schedule vacations.

560
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 2: That's not the life of right, No, because you know

561
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 2: we'd be outside, we outside. Just so y'all are clear.

562
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 1: You know, I say, car don't have had tan right now,

563
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 1: so don't don't hold it against her. Her tan faded

564
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: a little bit from Jamaica. I re up when I

565
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: went to Saint Vincent. It's just giving her thirtieth birthday,

566
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 1: which is approaching. We're gonna be outside on somebody beach

567
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: buns out.

568
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 3: But to Kia straight up asked me, what do you

569
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,239
Speaker 3: want your quality of life to be like? And I

570
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 3: was like, what do you mean? I was like, I

571
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 3: want a family, I want to be able to clock out,

572
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 3: go home. I want to enjoy what I do. I

573
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 3: want to educate patients. I want to be have that

574
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 3: rapport with patients that like, don't like that's my girl,

575
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 3: Like I really like, that's my doctor mm hmm.

576
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Speaker 2: And she was just like, I don't think midwill freeze

577
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 2: for you. Wow. And it was like I don't think

578
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 2: it is either, yeah, Like thank you so much for

579
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 2: opening my eyes to that.

580
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

581
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 3: And then I was like, okay, it's women's health.

582
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

583
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 3: And at the same time I decided that I was

584
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 3: going into women's health. I also got a job as.

585
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 1: A fertility nurse uh huh at a fertility sense Yes,

586
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: So that was exciting for me when I heard that

587
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 1: this was a route you were going, because we know

588
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 1: people personally who have been struggling with the process of

589
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 1: pregnancy becoming parents who are just so desperate too and

590
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: would make amazing parents, but just need a little bit

591
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: of help and assistance.

592
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 2: And I know there's also kind of like a stigma.

593
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: Around the fertility field and debate on like, you know,

594
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: is it right? Is this what's God's plans? What God's

595
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 1: plan was for you? Like how do you balance faith

596
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: in medicine? So leaving the er, which was again a

597
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 1: very stressful situation for you, but you learned a lot.

598
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 1: You got thrown in, so you got to see a

599
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: little bit of everything. And then now you said, okay,

600
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: women's health, Oh, fertility nurse, what does your job encompass

601
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: at your current place of work?

602
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 3: Okay, So as a fertility nurse, I work at a

603
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 3: fertility clinic. I work in like a team with a

604
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 3: doctor and a care coordinator, and we have our own

605
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 3: patients that we see. I pretty much am introduced to

606
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 3: the patient after they've spoken with the doctor. They have

607
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 3: a plan of care, whether it be egg freezing, actual iva,

608
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 3: there's surrogates. We have so many differ and aspects of

609
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 3: how you can get pregnant insemination cycles. So I'm the

610
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 3: one that pretty much educates them on what the cycle

611
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 3: is going to look like, the communication that we're gonna

612
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 3: have with you when you get your results, and it

613
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,919
Speaker 3: just made me like, now I understand the period like

614
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 3: the back of my hand, like you know what I mean,

615
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 3: Like now I'm like that really just was like, Okay,

616
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 3: women's health is.

617
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 2: Yeah.

618
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 1: Sakari like looks at people sometimes she's like she might

619
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 1: have be s pcos she might have this, she might

620
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: have that, or I've totally this is gonna be so TMI.

621
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: I am apologizing to y'all in advance, but I send

622
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: Sakari photos of things.

623
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Speaker 2: You're not the only one either.

624
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 1: Sometimes like that. That's just what happens when you become

625
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: like the nurse and the family and you get all

626
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: the questions, you get all the photos, all the take

627
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: a look at this?

628
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 2: Should this feel like that? Like Zakari's literally been that

629
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 2: for everybody. But it's helpful, it's helpful for sure.

630
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: How do you, or I guess where you work now,

631
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: kind of dispel the myths and the stigmas around just

632
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: women's health in general, because as we know right now,

633
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: the women's body is under attack, just with the government

634
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 1: in general and the autonomy that they're trying to take

635
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: away from us. So how do you in the space

636
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: that you're in alongside your colleagues kind of ensure that

637
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: women's health is protected as much as possible according to

638
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: how you guys work well.

639
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 3: I think for that is also making sure that the

640
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 3: women feel like it's a safe space to talk, you

641
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 3: know what I mean, and having that rapport with them,

642
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 3: because I feel like what happens a lot in women's

643
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 3: health is that people don't feel heard or they don't

644
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 3: feel validated, they don't feel like their feelings make sense.

645
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 3: And you really have to take a step back and

646
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 3: be like these people all they want to do is

647
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 3: be mothers.

648
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 2: That's all they want to do.

649
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 3: And we really even though you go through the cycle

650
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 3: of like, oh my god, I have fifty patients to

651
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 3: email today and it just gets like redundant, you have

652
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 3: to really feel like they're urgently wanting this, and every

653
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 3: cycle they go through and they get their period, they

654
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 3: are upset, their whole world is ending. They're paying thousands

655
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 3: upon thousands of dollars. So I think the most important

656
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 3: part for me is maybe if I don't email them today,

657
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 3: let me give them a call, let me just talk

658
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 3: to them.

659
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 2: You know, see how.

660
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: They're doing that humane like human connection to and it's

661
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: not just business exactly.

662
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 3: It's not just like email after email after email after email.

663
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 3: So I think that that women's health in general, that's

664
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 3: like the main part of it. People just want to

665
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 3: be heard, they want to feel educated, they want to

666
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 3: know that their provider is actually caring for them as

667
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 3: a person, and I think that that's something that I

668
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 3: want to especially bring into my practice. It's like we're

669
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 3: just girls, Like I can just sit like this and

670
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 3: have a conversation with you.

671
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 2: Yes, business.

672
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 3: Cervix and everything, but after that we can just sit

673
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 3: as girls. Like you can talk to me and I

674
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 3: can educate you, and then you can educate other people.

675
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean.

676
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: That level of comfort I think is very necessary, and

677
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: I think that's what people look for when they're looking

678
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: for again the bedside manner that's attached to wherever they

679
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: choose to receive any kind of medical care, regardless of intimate.

680
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 3: Like you know, there's such an intimate part, like people

681
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 3: are so scared, Like I've seen patients that are like shaking,

682
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 3: not giving me eye contact, and that's when I know

683
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 3: I'm not going to do the path right now.

684
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 2: Let me just sit and talk.

685
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: Right It's just one of your wildest stories that you've

686
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: like throughout your nursing journeys and like a crazy story,

687
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: and it could be something fertility related, it could be

688
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: something like just in the er, was there any like

689
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: wild story that made you think, oh my god, I

690
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: might have chosen the wrong field or oh my god,

691
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: this was so insane.

692
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 2: That I love it here and I can't wait to

693
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 2: see more of this. And of course you don't have

694
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 2: to give names of stuff because hip and percent.

695
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I guess one of my most traumatic

696
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 3: things was in the nursing home. Actually, oh yeah, hm,

697
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 3: it was. I was working by myself on day shift,

698
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 3: which is the most busiest shift. I have forty patients,

699
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,239
Speaker 3: three CNAs, which is usually about five, okay, and we

700
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 3: had to get through it, and I remember I went

701
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 3: into the bedroom and I just started bawling. I started bawling.

702
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 3: I was like, this is not fair. I was like,

703
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 3: how are they doing this to me? I had to

704
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 3: do forty med passes, treatments everything from seven to three

705
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,239
Speaker 3: and get them up, make sure they had breakfast, make

706
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 3: sure they had dinner, talk like it was so much

707
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 3: different things. And I remember the oncoming nurse came in

708
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 3: never met her day in my life, went up to her,

709
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 3: gave for a hug.

710
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for coming in today was the

711
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 2: littlest seventy three ever.

712
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 3: I was like, I did not think I would make it.

713
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 3: I did not think I would make it. So I

714
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 3: think that even though my experience in as an LPN,

715
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 3: I feel like was the most impactful in my nursing career.

716
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 3: It brought me so much resilience. It made me resilient,

717
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, I can handle anything. To

718
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 3: r was a breeze, to be honest, because I can

719
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 3: handle forty patients and just me like, okay, I have

720
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 3: ten patients.

721
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: That's absolutely and especially to knowing being in the field,

722
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: like the deficit that sometimes they're was like getting staff

723
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: on and having people working and you know, retention of the.

724
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 2: Worket and management right.

725
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: And then also having so many options in nursing, do

726
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: you feel like there's a lot of turnover sometimes like

727
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,239
Speaker 1: people are just like, oh, I don't have to stay here,

728
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: I can go somewhere else so I can do something else.

729
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 3: A culture, now, I think is that I think that

730
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 3: I was raised in the mind like Mom, you stay

731
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 3: in one job, You're loyal to this job. You know,

732
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 3: have you build your pension, you do all these type

733
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 3: of things. Yeah, and I think now the culture is different.

734
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 3: Mental health is so much more important. No, physical health

735
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 3: is important. If it's not serving you, you don't need

736
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 3: to be there. So I feel like that's why the

737
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 3: turnover is more crazy now, right, you know what I mean?

738
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 2: Also, people are going where the money goes.

739
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 3: True, people are not just staying there because they want

740
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 3: to be loyal, because at the end of the day,

741
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 3: they're not going to be loyal for you.

742
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: I was happy to see a you're graduating class. So

743
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: Sakari just graduated like two weeks ago with her master's

744
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: in nursing.

745
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 2: Insert the round of applause button. I'm so proud of you.

746
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: I'm so proud to have witnessed your commitment, your dedication.

747
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: I don't know how you actually do it because you

748
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: are essentially working full time, you're also doing clinicals, you're

749
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: in school full time, and then you're still finding ways

750
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: to be present for me, my family, the entire family

751
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: where you don't miss a beat. So my hat's off

752
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: to you, insists, then you give your flowers now, because.

753
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 5: I don't know how you do it.

754
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: But you do it so well, and you do it

755
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: so gracefully and with such poise. And I was happy

756
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: to be at your graduation and just see the diversity

757
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: amongst the graduating class, because from what we know and

758
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: understand that there is, particularly in women's health or just

759
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: within that scope of work, there is a deficit of

760
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: representation of black and brown nurses who are in the

761
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: obgyn clinics, who are in the women's health field, who

762
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: are in the fertility clinics. And as we know, if

763
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: we go into some facts and SAT's real quick just

764
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 1: to kind of let everyone know and bring into perspective

765
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: that black women are more likely than any other race

766
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 1: to die from I think it's like three or four

767
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,280
Speaker 1: times more likely than their white counterparts during childbirth or after.

768
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: So I was happy to see the diversity in the

769
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: graduating class.

770
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 2: Though may everyone may not have been women's health.

771
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 1: But how do you feel like just you being a face,

772
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 1: a familiar face, meaning a black and brown woman in

773
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: that space, what do you look forward to being able

774
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,439
Speaker 1: to provide to your patients whenever you're in your new

775
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: work setting, whatever that looks like.

776
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 3: Well, I think working as in my clinicals, I was

777
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,720
Speaker 3: working with a black provider as well, young female provider,

778
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 3: And I think that going into those rooms and like

779
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 3: we've had comments of patients being like like a deep breath, like,

780
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 3: oh my god, I'm going to be heard today, to

781
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 3: be believed today, you know what I mean, I'm not

782
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 3: going to be rushed through my visit. I think that,

783
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 3: and also just bringing facts to the light, like vitamin

784
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 3: D helping with fibroids, because it's more common in black

785
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 3: people for us to have a vitamin D deficiency. That's

786
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 3: why fibroids are more common amongst the black community. So

787
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 3: maybe having some supplementation for that, But like as a

788
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 3: Black woman, you seek out more holistic ways or just

789
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 3: like in general treatments for our race because we feel

790
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 3: like we're not heard, not saying that we're not going

791
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 3: to give care, excellent care to everyone. Right, It's not

792
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 3: explored enough in terms of Black women. Yeah, So I

793
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 3: think that at least me having that insight is more

794
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,280
Speaker 3: so like I'm gonna listen to them more. I'm gonna

795
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 3: make sure those warning signs are more prevalent, especially for

796
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 3: like preeclampsia and stuff like that. Like our warning signs

797
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 3: are a little bit different breast cancer, doing breast exams,

798
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 3: teaching age patient to do those breast exams because it

799
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 3: can be prevented or it can be treated.

800
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 2: Early early early decission.

801
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

802
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the main thing that I want to like

803
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 3: help man.

804
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 2: Listen.

805
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: When Sakari left me after I had Dakota, so my

806
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: midwife was here for a week after. Sakaria was also

807
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: here for a week after, and you guys departed like

808
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: maybe a day or two apart. And it was literally

809
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 1: on that like ninth day that I had an excruciating headache.

810
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,760
Speaker 1: My hands and feet were swollen, and I'm just attributing

811
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: it to lack of sleep, just had a baby up

812
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 1: at night nursing great. And I remember my midwife calling

813
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: to check on me that day and I told her.

814
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,280
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I have this like massive headache.

815
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: I just need to kind of sleep it off. And

816
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: she's like, ye, I don't.

817
00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,760
Speaker 2: Think we're going to do that. What's your blood pressure?

818
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I don't know what my blood pressure is.

819
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: So Mom gets the electric cuff, puts it on. It

820
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: was like one ninety eight over like one hundred and something,

821
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: and my mom was like, oh, this is wrong. Like,

822
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: you know, mom looks at my dad and she's like,

823
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: where did she get this blood pressure?

824
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 2: Comes? Something's wrong with it. Let me go get the

825
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 2: manual one.

826
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: So she takes my blood pressure and it's legitimately one

827
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 1: ninety something over like one oh eight. And Tekia was like,

828
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:24,760
Speaker 1: I think you need to go to the emergency room.

829
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 2: Just nice and caution.

830
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,280
Speaker 3: I was just about to say that her bedside better

831
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 3: is super caught.

832
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 2: That's her voice every time. So card, we're not going

833
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 2: to panic.

834
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 1: We're not going to panic. But I think you should

835
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: go to the emergency room. And I'm like, girl, I

836
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 1: had this new born baby here. I'm not going anywhere.

837
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: I'm not going to leave him and go to the

838
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: emergency for what. So I called Sakari because I'm like,

839
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: I have to forget that. Of course the family nurse co

840
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: sign and Sakari is like, Takia is never adamant about

841
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: you doing anything really, so if she's adamant about you

842
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: going to the er, go to the R. I was

843
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: like a damn So I said, Takia said it.

844
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 2: Sakari co signed it. I said, I gotta go to

845
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 2: the er, and.

846
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 1: That that relationship that access that you guys foreseeing what

847
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: was happening to me when I didn't even think it

848
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: was anything. I'm writing it off as you know, exhaustion

849
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: and lack of sleep, and literally saved my life. When

850
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: I got to the emergency room and they took my

851
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 1: blood pressure it was one ninety seven over one twelve,

852
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: and they in damn their close to a seizure and

853
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: they instantly grabbed me. And it's like you know the

854
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: scene in a movie where everyone starts moving fast and

855
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: they're not really saying much to you, but then you

856
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: do have the one nurse that's just like, everything's gonna

857
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: be fine.

858
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 2: I'm like, the hell, yeah, it's gonna be fine. What

859
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 2: you mean?

860
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 1: I got my husband sitting out there, my newborn baby nine.

861
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 2: Days all at home, and his three brothers.

862
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,919
Speaker 1: Everything has to be fine, sis, And they just jumped

863
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: into action and got into magnesium and was in the

864
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,720
Speaker 1: hospital for three consecutive days after having a completely sexual,

865
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 1: sex festful home birth. So I say that to say

866
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: it's so helpful when you have people you can lean on,

867
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: or if you have that relationship with your provider. And

868
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 1: I'm just excited for you to be that person because

869
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 1: I know who you are as a human being. I

870
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,919
Speaker 1: know who you are as a sister, Sade, our kind

871
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 1: of daughter.

872
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 5: You're like the one daughter where you.

873
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: Never had I never will and just the way you

874
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 1: are as an aunt and as a person. Just I'm

875
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: excited for your future patients to really get to experience

876
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: you because I know how much this feel and this

877
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: course of work means to you. Your heart is so huge,

878
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,280
Speaker 1: your heart is in it. You're a nurturer by nature,

879
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: So I'm just super proud of you. Again, I want

880
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,720
Speaker 1: to give my sister her flowers, say the first time

881
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: she's on a day with k And we have literally

882
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: so many things that Zakari and I can like talk about,

883
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: but I wanted to bring light to this topic right

884
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: now just because of the state of the country. You know,

885
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: elections are coming up, you just graduating women's health in

886
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 1: gener role of our reproductive health and the reproductive system

887
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: in which we're existing in just being under fire. So

888
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 1: I feel like it was timely for us to talk

889
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 1: about this here. When as we close out this particular

890
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Speaker 1: portion of the conversation, what do you encourage any woman

891
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 1: going into.

892
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:21,439
Speaker 2: Well, I guess it's maybe two part.

893
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: First off, anyone that is going to look for a

894
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: provider in women's health. What are some things that you

895
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 1: think women should look for when they're trying to find

896
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: a place to.

897
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 2: Coexist with a doctor to receive that care.

898
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 3: Honestly, I am biased, but I think that nurse practitioners

899
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 3: are way better than doctors. Okay, reason being, we have

900
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 3: bedside manner, we know how to talk to people, we

901
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 3: know how to educate people, we have a different decorum.

902
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 3: Like you know, we actually take the time to speak

903
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 3: to our patients. Not saying that every OBGI in doesn't,

904
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 3: but I just feel like sometimes people are caught up

905
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 3: on a doctor and having that name associated with it,

906
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 3: and they just don't trust nurse practitioners that we don't know.

907
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 3: But I think it's the total opposite. We have so

908
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 3: much more insight, We have so much more actual experience

909
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 3: that can attribute to all the things that we can

910
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 3: tell you or treat you with, or you know what

911
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 3: I mean. They might give you the holistic route rather

912
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 3: than the doctor giving you the pills, you know what

913
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 3: I mean. Like it just I think that I would

914
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 3: implore you to do your research on not only providers

915
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 3: meaning doctors, but also nurse practitioners.

916
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:30,800
Speaker 2: NBAS.

917
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:31,399
Speaker 5: That's good.

918
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,760
Speaker 1: That's good because I definitely when I was pregnant with Jackson,

919
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: I remember leaving a particular doctor. It was actually a

920
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 1: male obgyn, and I kept seeing the nurse practitioner instead

921
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 1: of him, and I was just like, why did I

922
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 1: feel like I just kept getting pushed off? She actually

923
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: ended up being really sweet, but also too, I never

924
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: went through his care because I also felt like he

925
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: was kind of dismissive and didn't have bedside manner where

926
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: she did.

927
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 2: So interesting and just that they go.

928
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 3: To school for what eight plus years and then are

929
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 3: jumped into bedside right versus an where we've been bedside

930
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 3: for so long.

931
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 1: And with your journey, you worked in school kind of simultaneously,

932
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: so it's interesting to see how you kind of wove

933
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: in experience learning together while you were on your course.

934
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: So it took you a total of how many years?

935
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: I think that from nineteen from nineteen to twenty nine

936
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 1: to twenty nine, so years, ten years that you just

937
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: slowly built it up. You have no debt, I have

938
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: no debt, she has no debt. So for the person

939
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: who is looking for that route, particularly a nursing or

940
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: maybe in another field, what is your encouragement if they're

941
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: trying to decide. You know what, I don't really have

942
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: the funds to do it now, but I want.

943
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 2: To get started. I need to at least start.

944
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: I think that was what was the positive part with

945
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: you is that you started it started. So what would

946
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: be your advice moving forward for anyone who's like looking

947
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 1: to do a similar journey to you?

948
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 3: So I think for me, LPN was the best route

949
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 3: for me, meaning I was okay with working in a

950
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 3: nursing home. And I think that that's what you also

951
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 3: have to realize for yourself. Maybe start doing some volunteer work.

952
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 3: Maybe work as medical assistant. It's a little bit shorter program.

953
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 3: Maybe work as a CNA. It might suck for a

954
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 3: little bit, but at least you can get experience in

955
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 3: the route and see like, Okay, I see what the

956
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 3: nurse does ten day to day. I can do that,

957
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? I would say, get your

958
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 3: toe wet before you jump right into a four year

959
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 3: program and then end up payting it and wasting money,

960
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 3: wasting time, you know what I mean? And it's mostly money.

961
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 3: Everything's expensive. LPN is a shorter route, it's a little

962
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 3: bit less money. It's a one time thing and you

963
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 3: can start making money. There are LPNs that are working

964
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 3: in hospitals. You just really have to find it, okay.

965
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 3: I think also building a rapport with your peers is

966
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 3: a big thing because a lot of like the jobs

967
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 3: that I've gotten or word of mouth and referrals. So

968
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 3: I think that that's also something like never just kind

969
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 3: of be to yourself, talk to people, talk to people

970
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 3: in the field. I have people who were in my

971
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 3: DMS just asking me questions and I'm like, yeah, this

972
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 3: is how I did. It not necessarily work for everybody,

973
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 3: but it's a way for you to at least get

974
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,959
Speaker 3: your foot in the door. Also, as LPNs, you don't

975
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 3: have to work bashit, beds it.

976
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. You can work in the office. Like Kristin.

977
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 3: My brother is an LPN. We graduated together. He's working

978
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 3: as a director of admissions in a nursing home.

979
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 5: Right, you know what I mean?

980
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 2: Like, you talk so many avenue.

981
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 3: So many As long as you just get your foot

982
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 3: in the door, you can go anywhere.

983
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 2: If you're putting the door, yah, you can knock it

984
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 2: down do like my sister did.

985
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 5: And I'm so proud of you. Zakari, I love you.

986
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see the waves and the splash

987
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: that you're going to make in your field. I'm excited

988
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 1: for your future parents who are going to get to

989
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: not parents, your future patients who are going to get

990
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 1: to experience you and your care. What's next?

991
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,240
Speaker 3: Well, thirty is next month. We're knocking on thirty stor

992
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 3: in terms of NEXTX. That's what I'm truly trying to

993
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 3: figure out.

994
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 7: Now.

995
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 3: Do I want to stay in fertility? Do I want

996
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 3: to work in gu yn? You know, just trying to

997
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,879
Speaker 3: figure that out. Be a newly single also, just trying

998
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 3: to figure out myself. I feel like myself get back

999
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 3: into the group of things and like go into thirty

1000
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:56,280
Speaker 3: with the bank.

1001
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,280
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, saw how she slid that in their newly single,

1002
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 1: go into their That's a topic for a whole Another's

1003
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: Day A Day with k featuring Sakari Part two standby

1004
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 1: but I love you.

1005
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 5: Let's go take a quick late break. We're gonna pay

1006
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 5: some bills.

1007
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 1: Hopefully you can stick around real quick so we can

1008
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,800
Speaker 1: talk to the folks. They write in with listener letters,

1009
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 1: so we have a quick one to go through to

1010
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 1: see if we can give someone some advice.

1011
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 5: All right, So Sakari and now we're gonna give our

1012
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 5: two sins. He's going to be four to and Sue four.

1013
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 2: We'll be back.

1014
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 1: All right, We're back into what Devout always says is

1015
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: my favorite part, because i'd like to get in people's

1016
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 1: business show. So today I brought my sister because usually

1017
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: if you're tell me something she knows too, just put

1018
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: it out there.

1019
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 2: You know how to say.

1020
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 5: It's gonna end up in the group chat.

1021
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 2: So here's a listening letter for today.

1022
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: I'm going to start by saying I appreciate both of

1023
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 1: you guys for deciding to share a bit of your life.

1024
00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: I've been following you guys since my first year of

1025
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: high school when DeVoe went viral for getting the kids

1026
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: together when Kay was at work. I loved the booking podcasts,

1027
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: and I went to the Philly show when the New

1028
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: York one was sold out and had a blast. Oh gosh,

1029
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: you traveled for us on behalf of Devalini.

1030
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:11,959
Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

1031
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: All right, so you know that it oh she said,

1032
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: you know that means I'm from New York, Long Island

1033
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:19,919
Speaker 1: to be exact, shout out to New York.

1034
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 2: I've never been more proud of people. I don't know.

1035
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 1: Keep doing what you guys are doing because it's gotten

1036
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: me through some tough mental battles.

1037
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 2: We got you this. Thank you for that, all right,

1038
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 2: So we're going to get to the story now.

1039
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,959
Speaker 1: Back in twenty nineteen, I want a way to Clark

1040
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,439
Speaker 1: Atlanta University for broadcast journalism. I know we have great

1041
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 1: schools in New York, but I really wanted to get

1042
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 1: away from my hometown. I just knew that I was

1043
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: going to be the next best thing on Channel seven

1044
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: Eyewitness News. Girls.

1045
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 2: That was literally me.

1046
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 1: That was literally me going to half strad after I

1047
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: dropped the bomb that I was not going to be

1048
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:54,240
Speaker 1: a nurse or pediatrician. I excelled in my program fast,

1049
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: came into a lot of different opportunities, met some great

1050
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: mentors along the way, and went from joining the televisions

1051
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: station my first semester to overseeing it the second semester.

1052
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 1: I really felt like I was living my purpose. Then

1053
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: the pandemic happened and I was set back home. I

1054
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: felt like I lost everything during the pandemic. I started

1055
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: a podcast, kept up with my YouTube page, doing interviews,

1056
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: kept trying to sharpen my skills with Adobe and trying

1057
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 1: to get involved with anything that could allow me to film,

1058
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: interview or just whatever I can get my hands on.

1059
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: With a global pandemic going on, since we were in quarantine,

1060
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: that meant I was no longer around people who shared

1061
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: the same passion as I did, so I lost mine.

1062
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: I reverted back to working regular jobs just to pay

1063
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: bills and having something to do.

1064
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 2: For a while.

1065
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: I stayed in that space. I got a job with

1066
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 1: the MTA in twenty twenty two. My whole family was

1067
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: so happy for me and told me that I was

1068
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: lucky to get this opportunity, that I should hold onto

1069
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: this job because it's a great job to retire from.

1070
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: I'll never miss a paycheck, I'll have insurance, and I

1071
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 1: won't be young forever, so I need to figure it

1072
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: out now. I didn't want to disappoint them, so I

1073
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: took the job. Three months did this job, I started

1074
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: developing anxiety. My anxiety turned into depression, and eight months in,

1075
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 1: I was crying myself to sleep every night, asking God

1076
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: why he took all of my opportunities away and if

1077
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: this was all I had to look forward to in life.

1078
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 2: Oh after a.

1079
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:22,280
Speaker 1: While, so After a while, I started therapy. I finally

1080
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 1: took control of my situation and finished my associate's degree.

1081
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: I quit the MTA after a year and a half

1082
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 1: to pivot started school for ultrasound. I made a plan

1083
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: to put myself back in school for broadcast journalism and

1084
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: work towards becoming a voice actor after I graduated snography school.

1085
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 2: I love that she has plans though she not move in,

1086
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 2: which is great. Which is great.

1087
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 1: You guys always talk about time and capital. Yes, I

1088
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: was just about to say that, so I picked.

1089
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:48,720
Speaker 2: You really be listening.

1090
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: So I picked up a backup career that would give

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Speaker 1: me both. I tried to adopt the idea that delay

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Speaker 1: does not mean denied and that it's okay to take

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Speaker 1: a different route to get to my dream.

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Speaker 2: Did Triple know what.

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Speaker 5: We were talking about today?

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Speaker 2: Because we're talking about different routes? This is great?

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Speaker 1: Any life financial advice for a twenty five year old

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Speaker 1: girl who still lives at home, rent and kid free,

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Speaker 1: thank god, and feels like yeah, and feels like she

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Speaker 1: knows what she wants but has to take another route

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Speaker 1: to get there, while also feeling like I have.

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Speaker 2: To play ketchup because I wasted so much time.

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Speaker 1: Side note, I'm the first girl in my family to

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Speaker 1: graduate and to go to college and graduate. I don't

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Speaker 1: want you guys to think that I've been lazy for

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Speaker 1: the past couple of years.

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Speaker 2: I did not gather that.

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Speaker 1: I just didn't know how to move forward, especially when

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Speaker 1: everyone in my family has practical jobs and always played

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Speaker 1: it safe.

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Speaker 2: That's us too.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry this letter was so long.

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Speaker 1: Sincerely, a girl who won't be on her parents' insurance

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Speaker 1: much longer.

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Speaker 2: I sup wish I could.

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Speaker 1: Meet you and get your hug because this is such

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Speaker 1: a candid story and what I want to see is

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Speaker 1: this A couple of things that came to mind here.

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Speaker 1: First off, Zakari hearing her story, knowing about the different

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Speaker 1: route and you know, taking your time and working through

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Speaker 1: things to get to your passion. What can you say

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Speaker 1: to her? Anything specific to repeat my sound bite?

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Speaker 2: Pretty much? Pretty much the episode comes full circle.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, honestly, and I get the

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Speaker 3: part of her story I get is feeling like you're

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Speaker 3: not doing enough or you wasted time because I felt

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Speaker 3: that way. I went through three semesters and felt like

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Speaker 3: I waste time and money. But it's like, just because

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Speaker 3: it took longer, it doesn't mean you failed, like legit like,

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Speaker 3: it doesn't because you have a plan, you see, like

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Speaker 3: you have a backup plan as well. So you are

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Speaker 3: in a great your ace right now.

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Speaker 2: That's so true. You're in a great space.

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Speaker 3: And I'm proud of you for figuring that out because

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Speaker 3: it takes a lot of people a lot longer.

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Speaker 2: It really does.

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Speaker 1: And you're saying that you're twenty five, I mean, and

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Speaker 1: then the funny thing is, she says, she's twenty five,

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Speaker 1: but in reading all of what you did through college

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Speaker 1: then the pandemic then and you accomplished a lot twenty five.

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Speaker 2: She was about to say, like maybe mid thirties.

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Speaker 5: Mid thirties.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I say that to say, I guess what's

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Speaker 1: the car? And I are ultimately saying here is that

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Speaker 1: just because you're taking an alternate route to get to

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Speaker 1: what it is you really want to do, does not

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Speaker 1: mean that it's the wrong route. Because a lot of

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Speaker 1: times God will want to show you things along the way.

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Speaker 1: You may meet somebody in that path that you didn't

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Speaker 1: expect to meet that can propel you into something else.

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Speaker 1: For example, you never know you might be doing a

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Speaker 1: sonogram for somebody you know. In that space, you get

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Speaker 1: to chit chatting and talking again bedside manner, having you know,

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00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: really good human interaction and conversations with people.

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Speaker 2: Oh what do you do?

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Speaker 5: Oh, I work at a new station. Oh you know,

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I work at this.

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Speaker 1: You just don't know who you're going to meet along

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Speaker 1: the way. And I do understand your family feeling like, oh,

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Speaker 1: because that's what we're taught.

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Speaker 2: We're taught.

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Speaker 1: Oh, get yourself a nice city job, practical, practical, pretty

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Speaker 1: job that you can retire from. You got your benefits,

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Speaker 1: but again, fulfillment, and you didn't seem like you were

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Speaker 1: fulfilled in that space, anxiety turning into depression. I don't

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Speaker 1: feel like that's where you had to stay.

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Speaker 5: So proud of you.

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Speaker 1: I'm proud of you for having the mindset that the

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Speaker 1: time and capital. Again, so you work a job so

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Speaker 1: that way it can fund and fuel your passion. So

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Speaker 1: keep doing what you're doing. Don't worry about the timeline.

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Speaker 1: You're twenty five. You have so much life to live.

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Speaker 1: People are People are just coming into their own in

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Speaker 1: their late thirties forties.

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Speaker 2: Trust me, you, Oh you're not late thirties.

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Speaker 1: So coming into her own at thirty and then you

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Speaker 1: rather set yourself up for a life that you can

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Speaker 1: be proud of, that you can be happy with that

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Speaker 1: you are nothing filled with fill.

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Speaker 3: Cup is filmed like you're happy to go to work every.

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Speaker 1: Day, every single day. That's how you know that you're

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Speaker 1: in the right space. So some things are going to

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Speaker 1: require a sacrifice, Some things are going to require doing

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Speaker 1: things you don't necessarily want to do in that moment.

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Speaker 1: But just know that in every less every failure or

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Speaker 1: what seems like a failure, it really can be the

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Speaker 1: lesson that you need. So all the best to you, girl,

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for writing Zakaria. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: having me here. I know this is this was like

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Speaker 1: a really really good one, but yeah, it was spot

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Speaker 1: on for the topic today. All right, y'all, if you

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Speaker 1: want to be featured as a listener letter for a

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Speaker 1: future episode, I can't guarantee Sakaria is going to be

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Speaker 1: here to answer a question and might me devour with

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Speaker 1: somebody else, but don't let that stop you from email

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Speaker 1: emailing us at dead ass Advice at gmail dot dot com.

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Speaker 1: That's D E A D A S S A D

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Speaker 1: v I. C. E at gmail dot com. Devil normally

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Speaker 1: says that part that's so slow, that's cool, all right,

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Speaker 1: so Zakari. To wrap up the conversation, we always do

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Speaker 1: a moment of truth, and the moment of truth pretty

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Speaker 1: much is just like one or two sentences that just

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Speaker 1: encompasses what the takeaway is from this episode, or maybe

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Speaker 1: a moment of truth of revelation that you had as

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Speaker 1: we were talking, or something else that you just want

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Speaker 1: to reiterate to people that they can take away from

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Speaker 1: this episode today.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, I guess for the moment of truth, I'll

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Speaker 3: talk my truth mm hmm. And going into this next

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Speaker 3: decade of life, and with so many different changes happening

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Speaker 3: in my life, I feel like everyone needs to take

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Speaker 3: a step back and be grateful for where they are

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Speaker 3: and then start planning out the next decade and what

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Speaker 3: that's going to look like and work your ass off.

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Speaker 2: To get there.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you heard it, work your ass off to

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Speaker 1: get here. And just because life for you is not

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Speaker 1: looking like what you thought it would look like in

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Speaker 1: the moment or the next five years, doesn't look like

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Speaker 1: what you thought it would look like, it doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: that greater is not on the other side, So I

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Speaker 1: love that my moment of truth kind of wrapped up

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Speaker 1: into yours too. I just wanted to again thank you

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Speaker 1: for sitting with me today. We have such an incredible bond,

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Speaker 1: even just being ten years apart. People are so surprised

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Speaker 1: that we are as close as we are. But I'm

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Speaker 1: so happy that mom did not send me to boarding

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Speaker 1: school for high school because that was on the table too,

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Speaker 1: and my mom was like, if I sent Kadeen away

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Speaker 1: at the time twelve maybe thirteen, I would have gone

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Speaker 1: to boarding school around thirteen years old, and you at

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Speaker 1: the time.

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Speaker 2: Were only two three, so.

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Speaker 1: We wouldn't have had that time at home together to

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Speaker 1: really bond and connect. So shout out to Mimi and

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Speaker 1: Papa for taking the opportunity away for me to go

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Speaker 1: go away in school, but foresight, but having the foresight

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Speaker 1: to know that if she did that, it would make

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Speaker 1: our bond that much stronger. So love you, sis, thank

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Speaker 1: you for thanks for having me doing a day with

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Speaker 1: k and we're going to come back because there's like

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Speaker 1: so many, so many different things that we could talk about,

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00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,399
Speaker 1: and I think it was fun. So whenever you're in town,

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Speaker 1: we should just jump on and do an episode as

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Speaker 1: I continue to roll out more a day with k

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Speaker 1: events and you know, chats and all that good stuff.

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Speaker 1: All right, be sure to find us on Patreon, y'all.

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Speaker 1: You can see us with exclusive dead Ass Podcasts video content.

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Speaker 1: You can also find us on social media Deadass Podcasts.

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Speaker 1: I'm Kadine, I am of course Devo's pages, I am

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Speaker 1: de Val and Sakari.

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Speaker 2: If people want to.

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Speaker 1: Follow your journey, if you're gonna be posting more about

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Speaker 1: women's health, where can they find you?

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Speaker 2: On Instagram? Call her nurse Sakari, Call her nurse Sakari,

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Speaker 2: but don't actually call her.

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Speaker 3: I won't be calling with all the nurse stuff, Okay, No,

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Speaker 3: I cannot look at it.

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Speaker 2: And no, I do not want to see a picture

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Speaker 2: the pictures of like your rash and ship like that.

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Speaker 2: She don't want your blood results. I don't know. No,

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

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