1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguars football touchdown Jacksonville marks 2 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: for the Jaguars, Jackuars, Did you Jack Jack Warris, did 3 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: you go? Jaguars Drive Time Ryan Sex steps to John 4 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: o Jas Ashley. Jaguars Drive Time starts right now. Good morning, 5 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: and welcome to Jaguars Drive Time, Tuesday morning, live here 6 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,639 Speaker 1: in Baltimore, back in our dungeon. But we are in Baltimore. 7 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 1: We promised prisoned by du Balmore Company today recapping day 8 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: one of joint practice with the Ravens and guys. We 9 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: have stuff to talk about what But it wasn't as 10 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: a vent, folo. I think as everyone assumes a joint 11 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: practice would be, well, people want because there's another team there. 12 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: When you're reading our stuff, when you're listening to it, 13 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: they want all these exciting match ups and they want 14 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: to see who won. Uh. Sometimes practices practice and sometimes 15 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: football practice. As any fan who's been out to the 16 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: training camp practice, well though, is not that thrilling. I 17 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: didn't think yesterday was thrilling. Brian, you and I talked 18 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: a little bit, um. I think a lot of it 19 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: was the Jaguars had traveled late the night before. There 20 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: was something you didn't feel like it was particularly energized. Um. 21 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: You know, the good news is even within that, you 22 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: can still see the offense making strides. You can still 23 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: see that this is a team that is I think 24 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: better than the last year. You can see where it's strong. 25 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: But it wasn't one that you really break down. Well. 26 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: And here's something else to take in mind. And and 27 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get the whole get off my lawn thing here, 28 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: you know. But the reality of it is is that 29 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: last week was the dog week of training camp. It 30 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: was that long first full week. They practiced three times. 31 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: Well so both teams. You know, you've got a lot 32 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: of veteran players on both teams, and the leaders of 33 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: the two teams got together before they went out and 34 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: agreed to keep things in check, not get tempers flared 35 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: or have any fighting. And they really I only saw 36 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: one guy pushing shove on either side. Um, so, I 37 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: mean it was a muted practice, and you know, you 38 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: get at this time a training camp, veterans don't want 39 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: to exert any energy fighting and getting too chippy. I 40 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 1: did hear Wink Martindale and yes that's his real name. 41 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: The defensive coordinator for the Ravens, remarking to a reporter 42 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: as he walked off the field, Wait till tomorrow. Things 43 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: will get more interesting Tomorrow. I think you know both 44 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: teams now that come out after watching the tape and 45 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: they'll want to perform better for the tape. Um, so 46 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: I expect today might might be. I'm sure each coach 47 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: challenge in a little bit. I mean, I think Doug 48 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: probably looked at it and you know, probably saw the 49 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 1: saying that everybody did and say, okay, let's let's give 50 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: a better effort. I don't expect knockdown, drag out, dust 51 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: flying blood everywhere but now, but you might get undrafted 52 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: rookies one from each side that you know are tired of, 53 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: you know, languishing at the bottom of the depth chart. 54 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: And think if I swing and my fist connects with 55 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: his helmet, some coach may decide that I'm tough enough 56 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: to plug in other words, not use their head right 57 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: before he might decide, uh, yeah, you're not ready for this. 58 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: So I wouldn't advise. But I was out to dinner 59 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: with few friends last night and the first question is 60 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: were there any fights? Because that's what every want is hockey. Yeah, 61 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: and that was a thing. I can remember training camp 62 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: practices in the nineties that I covered where there was 63 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 1: some of that I haven't seen in a long time. 64 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: I don't think. I think a lot of that is 65 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: dictated by the coach. And everything that Doug has said publicly, 66 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: which usually jis what he says privately, is that he's 67 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: really not big on that. It's it's a in in 68 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: professional football these days. Most coaches don't want that because 69 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: it's a waste of time. And two thou eight biggest 70 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: fight in Jaguar's camp, Mo Williams, John Henderson. John was 71 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: full on crazy that night. Everybody got in the mix 72 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: and at the end veteran players said to me, just 73 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: a waste of energy, right, nothing happens the drama and 74 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: and and and smart players know you only have so 75 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: much energy to expend during a practice. Don't waste it 76 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: on that crowd. Alright, let's get right into big things. 77 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: Big thing one is Day one. The defense a little shaky, 78 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: but the offense performed well, especially in red zone, wonder 79 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: print and the wide receivers playing well. Nick Foles recaps 80 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: today for the offense, so we you know, both sides 81 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 1: handled it really well. Um, but I thought offensively, you know, 82 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: we were were efficient. Um, obviously there's different scenarios. Um, 83 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: you know, working for a second down, third down, UM, 84 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: red zone and we worked at two point play at 85 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: the end, so we've got to end a two minute drive, 86 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: so we would have worked a lot of different situations versa, 87 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: which was awesome. That brings us right into big Thing two, 88 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: which is fold mania. Seems to me, wherever this quarterback goes, 89 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: you hear cheers, people wanting to get autographs from him. 90 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: He's definitely a big deal, even here in Baltimore. And 91 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: he spoke about what it's like to finally have the 92 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: chance to run his own team as a starting quarterback. 93 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: I think whenever you get to, you know, run an 94 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 1: offense that you really enjoy, and you need to have 95 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: a lot of saying, um, you know what quarterback wouldn't 96 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: love that, But you know it's really just about the 97 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: people that you get to do it with. And you know, 98 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 1: this team has really been bonding. Um every single day, 99 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: we're getting closer and closer. And anytime you can go 100 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: away from your city, UM on a trip and you're practice, sing, 101 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: you're playing a preseason game, UM, it just brings you 102 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: closer together. And big thing three is better days where 103 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: the offense shine. The defense had some trouble. The defensive 104 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: line played well against the Raymond's offensive line, but secondary 105 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: definitely could have played better. Jalen Ramsey, for sure, we'll 106 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: be the one to tell you better days for the 107 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: defense today. We hope guys, I would think it will be. 108 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I think what stayed out to me more 109 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: than anything was Leonard four Nett looks like he is 110 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: going to be really involved in the passing game. I 111 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: thought he had a great practice yesterday, So I think 112 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:48,559 Speaker 1: that sort of overshadowed whatever the defense didn't do. Um. Again, 113 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: I think some of it with the defense is you've 114 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: got boy a down. Um. So other guys are playing 115 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: without a doubt. More so that that wears the legs 116 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: a little bit. Even if they don't hit, even if 117 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: it's not that kind of practice like it used to be, 118 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: the legs still right an a little bit. So it's 119 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: not surprising that the defensive backs are a little pluggish. 120 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: Let's let's drill down there a little bit. Because the 121 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 1: the back seven may not have played all that well. 122 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: There were some injuries at the linebacking corps and the 123 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: secondary didn't play very well, but the front four, especially 124 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: in the one on one pass rushing drills, really looked good. 125 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 1: Calais is as you would expect. Now, he didn't get 126 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 1: that many reps, but the few he did, it was 127 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: clear that the Ravens offensive lineman who had to face 128 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 1: him is like good luck broke right. Um. Marcel Darius, 129 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: who Doug Brown has talked about since the off season, 130 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: had a very good one on one pass restaurant. I 131 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 1: mean just showed you his best stuff. When he decides 132 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: to play, he is. He's so good. People at the 133 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: end of the year were gonna say, why are we 134 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: letting him go? Um? And then the third guy was 135 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: well up to other guys. Um, you make away look fast, 136 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: which no surprise, he's wicked fast, as they say after 137 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: these parts. And Josh Allen, I'm telling you the kid 138 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: is a prototypical pass rusher six five six five, got big, 139 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 1: long frame and he knows how to use it. He's 140 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: got a couple of different pass rush moves. He's not 141 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: like a lot of rookies who come in and they 142 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: rely on one or two things, right. He's got an arsenal. 143 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: He's also got the physical skills, the lean, the body, control, 144 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: the explosion to be able to use them. He was 145 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: so disruptive yesterday, especially in nine on seven pass um. 146 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: I wish that that is something that we could televise 147 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: to people, because when they see this, they would realize 148 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: the Jags got lucky that he fell to seven. It 149 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: was a turn of fate for them. Yeah, and I 150 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: think the encouraging, the really encouraging thing with Josh Allen 151 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: is when you watch him, you get the idea that 152 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: he's not even exploding or playing as fast as he could. 153 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,679 Speaker 1: He's still a rookie. Uh, He's still coming a little 154 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: off of the knee injury um or or the knee bruise, 155 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: which you get the idea that maybe there's a little 156 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: cost in there. Maybe it's just okay, I'm gonna see 157 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: how this goes. I don't get the idea that he's 158 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: playing as explosively as he could. But what you do 159 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: see is, as you said, Bryan, a lot of rookies 160 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: come in and people underestimate how much of pass rush 161 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: and defensive line play is technique. Guys, you don't have technique. 162 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: It's rare for a guy without technique to ascend and 163 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: be really really good. Josh Allen looks like he already 164 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: has some technique. He'll only get more. So so far, 165 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: I see no reason why this kid is not going 166 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: to live up the top seven drafting Great receivers create 167 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: separation for the line of scrimmage with their feet, right. 168 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: They use their hands in art, but their feet same thing. 169 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: Great pass rushers win with their hands. Guys who are 170 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: just average watched want smooth, just average, right, watch his hands, 171 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: just average. See a guy like unique, See a guy 172 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: like Josh Allen, watch his hands expert expert hands for sure. 173 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: Going back to big thing one with the offense, one 174 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: thing that was evident is that Leonard front is definitely 175 00:08:58,280 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: going to be involved in the passing game. And he 176 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: a great day yesterday with the passing. Well, you know, 177 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: I wrote this in the Ozone a few weeks back, 178 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: and I had some fans sort of right, I'll believe 179 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: Leonard for Net is going to be a factor in 180 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: the passing game when I see it. Well, he was 181 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,839 Speaker 1: a factor of the last two years, not a huge factor, 182 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 1: not Christian McCaffrey factor. But when you get him outside 183 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: on a linebacker. Uh, look out, because he's got the 184 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: physical matchup, he's got the speed, the size. What he 185 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: doesn't have when he's on the interior when he's running yet, 186 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: is a lot of missibility. Well, when you're on the outside, 187 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: you don't need quite as much because you're one on 188 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: one with the guy. So he has shown that already. 189 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: He has been effective in that role. I thought yesterday 190 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: he really showed where this is going. And uh, I 191 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: think he's gonna he might wind up being as good 192 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: a weapon for them there as he is in the backfield. 193 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: Forget last year for just a second, just looking at him, 194 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: is he not your best offensive weapon? I mean, you 195 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: could make a case for D. D. Westbrooks. And when 196 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: you look at the size, the speed, all the things 197 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: that he brings to the table. He's a fourth overall 198 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: pick for goodness takes. The answer should be yes. And 199 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: so what John D. Philippo is he's trying to do. 200 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: You don't want his pound pound pound. And if you 201 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: go back to last season when he was effective and 202 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: even his rookie year, he was running downhill in the 203 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: screen game, he is the two blockers out in front 204 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: of him. He doesn't have missabilities. So if he's got 205 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: an ability to choose one side or the other, he 206 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: generally chose the right side in the screen game. Um, 207 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: they're just gonna show different wheel routes, I think, with 208 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: him in different ways to get him open with misdirection. 209 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: Now here's the interesting part. You've got to have a D. D. 210 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: Westbrook on the field. At the same time, you gotta 211 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: have somebody that takes the safety and says, I'm worried 212 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,359 Speaker 1: about him, I'm not worried about the guy in the backfield. 213 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: So they all have to work in concert. But if 214 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: for Net is not a part of the passing game, 215 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 1: then something is really wrong because he's not. If he's 216 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: not the best offensive player you have outside of the quarterback, 217 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: He's real close, Nick Foles mentioned his press conference yesterday. 218 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: Whatever they do, they want to get the ball to 219 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 1: him as much as possible, passing, running handoff. When the 220 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: drafted him, Tom Coughlin said, we got you to score touchdowns. 221 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 1: And that's what he does. That's what he has if 222 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: for whatever else he hasn't been, he has been a 223 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: guy who score touchdowns. I think he's got what fourteen 224 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:22,719 Speaker 1: into which considering he's played, Uh, about twenty games. It's 225 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: pretty good ratio. I'm not trying to change. I think 226 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: one season games fifteen touchdowns, so he can do that. 227 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: Um Again, I don't know that he's going to be 228 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: missibility guy inside the tackles. Uh. And if he is that, great, 229 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: it's gravy. But if the team can accept that and say, okay, 230 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: how else can we get it and then get the 231 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: pat he's a guy I think who if they could 232 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 1: be a team that is that established at the past 233 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: and gets things opened up, then he could be dangerous 234 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: if he's not having to make somebody miss write the 235 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: line of scramming. In the nineties, there was a running back. 236 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: You'll remember his name. Probably no one else who's watching 237 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: will You'll be like, who Larry Centers Larry. He was 238 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: the first running back in the league. You just say, yep, 239 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 1: you remember him, and I said yep, exactly, first running 240 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: back in the league history to have a hundred catches 241 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: out of the backfield and back to back years. As 242 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: a runner he was just his average as average gets. 243 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: But as a receiver he had and again he wasn't 244 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: a sleek weapon, but he was a guy that just 245 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: he understood angles and leverage and how to get the 246 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: most out of every catch, and so he was used 247 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: very effectively by the Cardinals as a weapon. When I 248 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 1: watched Leonard four Nette, I see the same guy who 249 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: can He's got enough understanding of what he does well, 250 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: the missibility in between the tackles goes away. If he's 251 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: that effective in the passing game. I think for Net overall, 252 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: for people who do remember Larry Centers, I think for 253 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 1: Net can be a better hand the ball to him. Guy. Yeah, 254 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: no doubt, but I see your point. I'm just saying 255 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: I watch a guy and I don't want to get 256 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: ridiculous and say, you know, this is a uh the 257 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: kid in Carolina, Christian McCaffrey, he's not that. But Larry 258 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: Center set league wreck words and this guy can be both. 259 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: So Larry who, how do you spell that? With its seat? 260 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: I'll be doing on the break exactly we come back 261 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: well some ozone snap shot from the Teel crew on 262 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: Jaguars Drive Time. Move here. Think Duval Motor Company up. 263 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: Proud partner of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Duval is the home 264 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: of the real deal. No hide, no gimmicks, no haggle, 265 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: just a real fast real friendly experience online and at 266 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: the dealership. 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Welcome 287 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: back to Jack's Drive Time, Live at the Team Hotel 288 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: in Baltimore, getting ready for day two of joint practice 289 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: with the Ravens. Then now it's time for some ozone snapshot? 290 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: Are you ready? John Oh? I was born ready. Yeah, 291 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: I know you were thinking of this the music. I 292 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: never thought i'd say that, but it just kind of 293 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: gets it going. Yeah, all right. Mason from Palm Bay. 294 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: I asked back in May if the drafting of Josh 295 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: Allen would impact the contract, offered a yawn, and you 296 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: said it wouldn't. It's kind of hard to believe that 297 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: it isn't something muddying the waters. Well, this is sort 298 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: of a two pronged answer. I don't think it's impacted 299 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: it yet because I think the Jaguars have offered what 300 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: to unique and got way what they believe is a 301 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: fair offer. I don't think that that offer would be 302 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: substantially different if they hadn't dropped, if they hadn't drafted, drafted, 303 00:15:56,240 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: they hadn't drafted Josh Allen. Because I think they have 304 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: a certain amount that they want to pay right now. Now, 305 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: the NFL does not happen in a vacuum as they 306 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: go forward from this now. As if Unique does not 307 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: sign a long term deal before the season and you 308 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: start seeing how Josh Allen plays and that starts moving 309 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: forward by next season, it could muddy the waters in 310 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: terms of Okay, we have this, now, what are we 311 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: going to pay this again. I don't think that it's 312 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: change it very much yet because I think right now 313 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: they're talking about what do we need for the next 314 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: couple of years. But as it goes for I think 315 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: it will change. Say and I I said it in 316 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: the last segment that it was a blessing for the 317 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: Jaguars for Josh Allen to fall to them at seven, 318 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: not just because of the kind of football player, but 319 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: because they now aren't going to be held hostage by 320 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: a pass rusher who weighs two and thirty five pounds. 321 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: You can't do that, and so for them, absolutely, Mason, 322 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: you're right right now, the Jaguars don't have to go crazy. 323 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: The leverage went all on their side of the line. 324 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: They already had it because he's in the fourth year 325 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: his deal, because they have the franchise tag. But now 326 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: they don't have to think, well, we're not gonna have 327 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: a pass rusher, and teams get panicked when they don't 328 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: have pass rushers. I think that panic would become a 329 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 1: lot greater after this season. It wouldn't be panic now anyway, 330 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: because they're going to have him. Good to have it there, 331 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: You're right, but it but it doesn't. He's on the 332 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: roster muddies it up a lot as you go forward. 333 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: It gives them so much more leverage. And I've said 334 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: it before, don't make a market setting contract with this guy. 335 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: He is a fantastic pass rusher. But if you do that, 336 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: the costs in the future players you can't retain. It 337 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: gets ridiculous. I've seen the Jaguars do this before, look 338 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: back to we won't even go there. Don't make that 339 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: mistake the Jaguars when he was there, when Josh Allen 340 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: was sitting there at number seven, they were given a 341 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: gift of a player and a gift of a roster 342 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: lever that they wouldn't have had otherwise. Now here's my question. 343 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to stir drama, but I was reading 344 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: on Twitter a couple of days ago A fan tweeted 345 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: out it on saying why don't you take the contract 346 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: the Jaguars offered, and he tweeted back, don't believe everything 347 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,959 Speaker 1: you hear? What could that mean? Could that false report? 348 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: Could that be the numbers aren't correct? The numbers right 349 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 1: now the reports in the gist out there right now 350 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: is that they were about a million apart. I am 351 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 1: sure that the number that's out there that the Jaguars 352 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 1: offered is probably a little less. The number out there 353 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: the yamt accepted is probably a little less than that. 354 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 1: That think they're further apart on both ends than maybe 355 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 1: it was reported. Uh or structure matters obviously too. He 356 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: wants guaranteed money for sure. He wants guaranteed money. Um. 357 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: It's worth noting that even though I wouldn't pay him 358 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: because I don't fundamentally believe in paying just a pass rusher, 359 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: especially not when I've got Josh Allen, who's a complete 360 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: every downs pass rusher, it doesn't mean someone shouldn't or 361 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: someone won't someone that has more flexibility with their salary cap. 362 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: I'm saying for the Jaguars situation, they shouldn't do it, 363 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: but someone else will know someone else absolute money. Why not? 364 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: And hey, I have no problem with him holding out 365 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: to get what he thinks is fair. I'm arguing, be 366 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 1: real careful with what you think is fair. All right. 367 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: I'm being told that's the only ozone snapshot we have today. 368 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on in jackson but so 369 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: we come back. We'll play Ashland asked without the white boards. 370 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 1: Will get it done on Jaguars Drive Time on the 371 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: digital network. You hear think. Duval Motor Company a proud 372 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: partner of the Jacksonville Jaguars. 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At a group problab partners 398 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: of your Jacksonville Jaguars, We're Backtracks Drive time, live in 399 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: Baltimore in our dungeon of a suite, but we're in Baltimore, 400 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: we promise at the Team Hotel, getting ready for Day 401 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: two of joint practice against the Ravens before the first 402 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: preseason game on Thursday. And now it's time for some 403 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: ashle next. You call it a dungeon of a suite. 404 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: I call it sweep. Yeah, and we're gonna do it 405 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: without the white boards. But I know is gonna upset 406 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: John because he's really big on drawing with the dryer 407 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: races like his thing. I know you're very talented, so 408 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: let's get to it and we'll just answer like normal people. 409 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: What unit surprised yesterday? Good or bad? Well? I think 410 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: Leonard Fernett surprised me a little bit necessarily yesterday in 411 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 1: the big picture, O we're all during training camp. I 412 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: am a little surprised that the passing game receiving stuff 413 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: looks as smooth and is in with him as it does. 414 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: I think he's looked really good at it. I thought 415 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 1: he looked better in red zone than he had so far, 416 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: but that's probably because they hadn't run a lot of 417 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: goal line so far. He excels in that situation. Um, 418 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 1: so maybe not a surprise made I gray answered this question, 419 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 1: but I think he stood out and it the fact 420 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: that it appears that they are getting better and better 421 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: and more comfortable with the package they can they can 422 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: make him effective. I thought it was a story today yesterday. 423 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: I'll take the negative side of it, the secondary, um, 424 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:43,439 Speaker 1: because I didn't think that the Jaguars secondary would be 425 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: challenged by Lamar Jackson. He's not an accomplished pastor at 426 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: this point. To talk to people yesterday and to read 427 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: the stories from the first days of camp, he's a 428 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: long way from being an NFL caliber arm. Not that 429 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 1: he can't get there right, but he's not accurate on 430 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: the deep ball. He really only throws the eight to 431 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 1: twelve very well UM, and I thought the Jaguar secondary 432 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: made him look really good yesterday. So I was surprised 433 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: by Let's clarify something on Lamory Jackson. My theory anyway 434 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: is um eight to twelve, eight to fifteen is about 435 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: what he does. That's a little trickier to stop in 436 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 1: practice when you're not hitting. The way you stop that 437 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: sort of attack in games is to blast the receivers. 438 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: You're not gonna do that as much, so that becomes 439 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: a little more comfortable if that's what you're running. So 440 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit of benefit of the doubt for 441 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: the jag was he was effective beyond that. What I'm 442 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: saying is he looked really good in that, but he 443 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: he hit some downfield balls that I honestly, based on 444 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 1: what I had heard, I didn't expect him to be 445 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 1: able to do the secondary had a bad day. Jalen 446 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: Ramsey did not have a good practice. All right, you're entitled, 447 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: You're titled good practice practice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The look 448 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: in Jalen's eyes he walked off the field said it 449 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: will be better today. He'll be a featured performer today. 450 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 1: Speaking briefly on the Ravens, I didn't really know much 451 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: about Lamar Jackson, but I heard some negative things and 452 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,719 Speaker 1: talking to the staff at the raven especially the PR staff, 453 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: they were just dumbfounded with how great of a person 454 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,239 Speaker 1: he is, how easy is to deal with, and they 455 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: were talking about the similarities of foals, about the leadership 456 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: for a young guy to have, that's pretty impressive. So 457 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: I'm excited to watch him play on Thursday. I I 458 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: I only know that when we were in Nashville for 459 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 1: the draft, I heard horror stories about Lamar Jackson and 460 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: his mother, who was very controlling because they didn't and 461 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: and I say that, and teams say horror stories. The 462 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,479 Speaker 1: Jackson's were trying to make sure that he was not 463 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 1: drafted as anything other than a quarterback. Remember there were 464 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: teams that asked him to work out as a wide 465 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,479 Speaker 1: receiver and you know, an athlete, that whole thing, and 466 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 1: they were absolutely dead set that was not going to happen. 467 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: And you can understand why quarterbacks get paid, right, and 468 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: this guy has physical attributes that make you say he 469 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 1: will get paid some day. But he was a pain 470 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 1: to deal with. You didn't talk to him unless his 471 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: mother said yes, you can talk to him. Personal experienced 472 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: you her mother around all the time. You'd probably ben't patented. 473 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,199 Speaker 1: Good to hear that. That's that's not the story, all right. 474 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 1: Ashley asked number two who what individual you briefly mentioned 475 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: needs to have a better day to day? Well, I'll 476 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: te you if Jalen ramsay, Obviously that's too easy, So 477 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 1: ahead and give him something else, and you take Jaln 478 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: I'll come with someone else. I'll go with the second here. 479 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: You'd like to see him have a better day, I 480 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: think they will. Uh, that's certainly an area that keep 481 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: it in perspective. I don't worry about that area long term. 482 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: I'd be surprised if they're not better today. I'll go 483 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: with the interior offensive line. Brandon Williams is probably the 484 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: Ravens best defensive lineman. He's a short, squat quick, he's 485 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: he's built a lot like uh not Marcel Darius and 486 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: and he gave them fits inside yesterday. Now he's a 487 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,719 Speaker 1: really good player, and he should give good players fits. 488 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: I would like to see Norwell Linder and can handle 489 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: him better today in the one on one situations. All right, 490 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: and finally, what matchup are you keeping an eye on. 491 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: We'll keep an eye on the ig Wars receivers versus 492 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: the raven secondary because I still believe that that's the 493 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: major story offensively for the Jaguars. You like what you've 494 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 1: seen in the seven or eight days so far in camp. 495 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: You want to see that continuing to be something you 496 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: can count on. To me, Brian, if they go into 497 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: the season and are better there than national people think, 498 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 1: if they're as good as they think they're becoming, then 499 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: I think that changes the entire dynamic with this offense 500 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: can become. It sure does. Talking to John D. Philippo 501 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,479 Speaker 1: in the spring, he didn't want to come up. You're 502 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: enough to pound pound pound. It got him fired in Minnesota. 503 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: That's not his philosophy. He wants to spread things out. 504 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,239 Speaker 1: Remember the first two years with for Net, when he 505 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: was good or when he wasn't good, you have to 506 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: credit him. He was facing eight man fronts and defenses 507 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: that were all eleven loaded towards him. And he's he 508 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 1: he's a special player. Okay. I don't know whether he's 509 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: the elite, don't know whether he's game defining, but he's 510 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 1: a guy was special special activists. It's probably the best 511 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: way to say it. So from that perspective, if they 512 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 1: can get the production from the receivers and open things up, 513 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: you could have a snowball effect. They could go from 514 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: being a little bit better to a lot better in 515 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: a hurry. Um two matchups that I'm watching. One is 516 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,719 Speaker 1: and I'm all in on Josh Allen right now. So 517 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: I'm watching him against Ronnie Stanley, the Ravens left tackle 518 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: who was a first round pick from Notre Dame, who 519 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: is long, um, big bodied guy. He's built a little 520 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: bit like Pselli when you look at him. He's not 521 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 1: the athlete that Possely is, but it's a heck of 522 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 1: a matchup for Josh. So if he comes out of 523 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: here with some success against Ronnie Stanley, I think he 524 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: gives him something that he can really build on and 525 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 1: the other and this isn't a one to one all 526 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: the time, Miles Jack and Mark Ingram. Ingram, remember the 527 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 1: former Heisman Trophy winner from Alabama, came in free agency 528 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: from New Orleans and had a pretty good day yesterday. 529 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: And there were a couple of times where Miles either 530 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: got caught up in the wash or didn't read the 531 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: whole effectively and overpursued and in a maiden pay for it. 532 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch that particular drill today to see that 533 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: Miles reacts all right when we come back. Some final 534 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: thoughts on Jaguars drive time as we prepare for Game 535 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: one of the pret even on Thursday. 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We're back 561 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: for our final segment on Jags Drive Time Tuesday morning 562 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: live in Baltimore from the team hotel. Coming up, we're 563 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: heading back to the practice facility. We're gonna hear from 564 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: head coach jug Marone live at twelve thirty. Some zone 565 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: blitz coming up later on this afternoon, and off the 566 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: field with quarterback Nick Foles, and then getting ready for 567 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: Thursday game day. Guys, here we go pretty crazy that 568 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: it's already here. Yeah, preseason week one fast these days. Well, 569 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: but here's the thing. And when we know this because 570 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: we've done this and you have for a couple of 571 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: years now too. There we're a long way from the 572 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: start of the regular season. I mean we are a 573 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: full five weeks away from the start of this and 574 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: how many days it is. But when you look at 575 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: the other preseason and and and Labor Day week and 576 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: leading up to it, there's a lot of work that 577 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: has to get done. So a lot of times when 578 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: you hear a coach we gotta get better now, we 579 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: got a chance to get better today, it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, 580 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: it's coach talk enough, But in this case, in particular, 581 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: when Doug is saying that, he really means it that there. 582 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: There are a lot of guys we could go through 583 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: a checklist. You gotta get better at at strong side 584 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: backer without Quincy Williams until who knows when a tight end. 585 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: We gotta get better here, and here's a Swayne, you 586 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: gotta step up. Today is a really valuable opportunity for 587 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: this team to have a good day so that they 588 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: can take it into the meeting rooms tonight. Hopefully it 589 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: translates to the pregame field in the preseason game on 590 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: Thursday night, and then back to Jacksonville for Saturday and 591 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: Sunday's practice. They have to get better. We all have 592 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: expectations of this team this year that they will be 593 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: markedly better, that they'll be in competition in November and December. 594 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: They got a long way to go to be ready 595 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,959 Speaker 1: for it. And the offensive line is included in that. Um. 596 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: I thought yesterday Brian Juan Taylor worked more with the starters. 597 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: That's a major story we haven't he had so far. 598 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: And uh so, now I don't know that he will 599 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: start in the game. I don't know that you know, 600 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,479 Speaker 1: but he's clearly going to be the starter. So now 601 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: you've got four and now the or the watch will 602 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: start on camera Robinson, which I think will still happen, uh, 603 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: either before after Philadelphia, right around that game. So yeah, 604 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: and we talked about this and I thought that this 605 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: coming off this week, depending on his progress, We and 606 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: Doug's gonna update us today maybe or tomorrow. I'll talk 607 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: to Doug tomorrow night for the pregame production meeting for 608 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,719 Speaker 1: the broadcast. UM. I thought this is the opportune time 609 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: to pull him off and pop and let him start practicing, 610 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: even in a limited fashion. I heard him telling some friends, 611 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: some former Alabama guys yesterday that he was doing really well. 612 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: That's a good sign, you know, his idea of really well, 613 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: and the training staff's idea really well. You know somewhere 614 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: they've got a meet in the middle. But it was 615 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: a good sign that he was so optimistic with former teammates. 616 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: What did you say, there's still a month you get 617 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: him back now start working back. So there's still but 618 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 1: it has to start relatively sent And just the league 619 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: did that study about when guys who are coming off 620 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: of injuries tend to reinjure them in training camp and 621 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: it's the first seven to ten days, and I don't 622 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: know for sure but I can't help but think that 623 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: the Jaguars at that and said no reason to speat 624 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: it up. I do the Jowan Taylor going into the 625 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: starting lineup. He was there from the first snap yesterday, 626 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: worked with the ones, worked against the best pass rushers. Um, 627 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: why why not let's go He I think, my opinion, 628 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: mark it down right now, is your best offensive lineman. 629 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: He is the most talented that he may not be, 630 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: the most experience he's not, uh, and the most knowledgeable 631 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: he's not, But in terms of overall ability, he is 632 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: the best you have right now. Cam Robinson, if he's healthy, 633 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: I don't think he's quite the same player that the Taylor's. 634 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: I think Taylor is a guy who even though they 635 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: were drafted around the same spot, I just think Taylor's better, 636 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: Which makes sense because for a time Juan Taylor, had 637 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: he been a left tackle instead of a right tackle, 638 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: position value probably knocked him down more than how good 639 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: he is at his position, if that makes anything. So 640 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: for a right tackle, he looks like he he fits 641 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: the bill perfect and he has a long way to go. 642 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: Is dougle tell us, But he's definitely not moving backward 643 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: and there's no more top to put him, lock him down. 644 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: He's your guy, all right. We'll come back Thursday morning, 645 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: Game Day morning on drive time here on the Jaguards 646 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: Digital Network. We'll see it any