1 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: On this episode of News World, we're less than a 2 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: week away from election day, and the pollsters, pundits and 3 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: people who make their living from election cycles are buzzing 4 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: about the latest polling and the possible outcome of the election. 5 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: I want to have some of the show and talk 6 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: with us about all of it. Who's seen it from 7 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 1: every angle, As his new Substack says, quote, he's been everywhere. 8 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: He knows everyone, and he's got the inside scoop. So 9 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: a good friend of mine, we go back many years, 10 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: and he is just remarkably knowledgeable. Sean Spicer. He is 11 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: the former White House Press Secretary, host of The Shawn 12 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 1: Spicer Show podcast, co host of Two Ways the Morning Meeting, which, 13 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: by the way, I watch regularly because it's so smart. 14 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: Author of the briefing Politics, the Press, and the President, 15 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: and his latest book, Radical Nation, just released an available 16 00:00:55,360 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: on Amazon and in bookstores everywhere. You know you've been busy. 17 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 2: Well, I got to keep up with you. 18 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: I do watch you probably three mornings a week. I mean, 19 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: do you enjoy doing that? It's a brilliant show. 20 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, like I love politics. I joke on 21 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 2: five to six, I can't dunk a ball. I have 22 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 2: no musical or artistic talents. I love politics. I got 23 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,559 Speaker 2: involved my first real race. I think you might remember 24 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: nineteen ninety four Connecticut two. You and Joe Gaylord flew up. 25 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 2: I was bitten, and I've been a junkie since. I 26 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 2: have more new paraphernalia and Contract with America stuff than 27 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 2: is probably healthy for any individual. But I love it 28 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: so for me to be able to have a conversation, 29 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 2: I do my show every night at six. Like that's 30 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 2: very clear where I come from. Right, you can go 31 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 2: to my YouTube channel, you can watch it. But I 32 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 2: love the Morning Meeting because Halprin's is probably, in my opinion, 33 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 2: the best sourced journalist out there. He is what you 34 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: expect from a journalist, but he actually does it better 35 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 2: than anybody else because he has conversations with sources to 36 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 2: understand their thing. And then Dan Turntine, who is a 37 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,959 Speaker 2: former Hillary Pelosi Jared Polist staffer. Again, he's a Democrat 38 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 2: that's been around the block. When you watch football, the 39 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 2: color commentary guy Troy Aikman, Tom Brady, whatever is always 40 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 2: great because they're explaining, you know, in the huddle, this 41 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 2: will happen, and d da da da da, and I'm 42 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 2: always like, you know, why would the quarterback do that? 43 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 2: And they give you the mindset of what it's like, 44 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 2: you know, for a quarterback or whatever position, right, and 45 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 2: you go, oh, that's why they threw the ball or 46 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: they whatever. I love the Morning Meeting because Halprin's a 47 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 2: bona fide hardcore journalist. I've done countless campaigns to presidential cycles. 48 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 2: Six years at the RNC. I was a staffer during 49 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 2: your one hundred day contract with America implementation phase, so 50 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: I've seen it. I've been around. I literally on my 51 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 2: podcast today was talking about Andy Harrison going about I mean, 52 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 2: I was telling him about the bucket, you know, the 53 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 2: visualization of waste of taxpayer money that used to carry 54 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 2: around on the campaign trail and why that was so 55 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 2: powerful and so for me when I get on the 56 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: Morning Meeting, the idea of being able to use all 57 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 2: that stuff, I feel like a color analyst on a 58 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 2: Sunday football game explaining to people why a campaign is 59 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 2: making a decision, why the media is reacting the way 60 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 2: it is. Because I've been in the game for thirty years, 61 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 2: and so for me, it's fun to share that and 62 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 2: to hear questions and to explain with a group of 63 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 2: people who really wanted to know. We've got thousands of 64 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 2: people on every morning who are like, why did the 65 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 2: campaign do that? How are they going to recover from this? 66 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 2: What is the thought process behind going to this particular state. 67 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 2: So very long winded way of saying, I love doing it. 68 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: Right now we're talking. Both candidates have given sort of 69 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: their ultimate last week address, Trump at Madison Square Gardens. 70 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: You know Cliston and I went. 71 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 2: I don't mean to interrupt you on your show, but 72 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 2: I mean, you've politically seen it all. You were the 73 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: architect of the ninety four Republican Revolution. How did that 74 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 2: rank for you? And Clista? 75 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: It was spectacular. And I was talking with Trump a 76 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: couple of weeks back and I said, you know, this 77 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: is genius for you to go back home, to be 78 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: in Madison Square Garden to get the kind of coverage 79 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: you'll get nationally. And he said, it's gonna be really exciting. 80 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: You and Klyst have to be there. Well, it was 81 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: kind of like a comment performance. We had no idea 82 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: because we had not been to one of the rallies. Frankly, 83 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: the last rally I really was that was when he 84 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: was pretending I could be a vice presidential nominee, and 85 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: he invited me to come to Cincinnati in front of 86 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: about twenty five thousand people, and he introduced me. He said, 87 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: and now here's Speaker Newt Gingrich, and the crowd began 88 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: channing Newt. And I looked at him, and I looked 89 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 1: at the crowd, and I thought, well, that ended that 90 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: they're not supposed to chant Newt. Lady is a very 91 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: good friend. So when we got there, we were on 92 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: the front row, next to Speaker Johnson and next to 93 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: all of the major players Elon Musk. I turned at 94 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: one point to Alie Stefanic. I think it was right 95 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: after we had Hawk Hogan and doctor phil which is 96 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: the best back to back thing I've ever seen in 97 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: my life. And I turned around and said, you know, 98 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: this is not the Republican Party you originally joined. To me, 99 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: that was the story that nobody in the press, because 100 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 1: they were so eager to try to attack Trump. Nobody 101 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: in the press took a step back and said, if 102 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 1: you get Robert F. Kennedy and he just trashed the 103 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 1: Democratic Party, and then you get Tulca Gabbard, and you 104 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: get all of these other people. Maybe this is kind 105 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: of a historic turning point in the nature of the 106 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: coalition that could govern America. 107 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 2: But that's why I asked a question. I've never seen 108 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 2: a lineup like that, even at a convention. I was 109 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 2: writing it down Sunday night, and I'm like, you know, 110 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 2: you had the politicians, and then you had Hulk Hogan, 111 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 2: doctor Phil RFK, Tulsi, and then Malania comes out. And 112 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 2: again I was like, you don't see this at a convention. 113 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: Right, And of course she was beautiful, But also I thought, 114 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 1: as she gave her talk and what is clearly not 115 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: her first lifeguage, I thought, I mean, what better proof 116 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: do you have that we favor legal immigrants. We're against 117 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: illegal immigrants, but we're very much for legal immigrants. And 118 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: of course she's gorgeous. Our book now is number one. 119 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 1: Even the New York Times has said to admit so 120 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: I can't imagine what the sales are to force them 121 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: to admit it. And I think that's frankly, a big 122 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: asset to the campaign. And I think the next Daysue 123 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: was on Fox and Friends. She's beautiful, she's smart, and 124 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 1: now she has a good legitimate reason to be doing 125 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: television and talk about her book, and I think all 126 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: that helps Trump. You know, we had a comedian who 127 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: was pretty stupid, but as John Stewart said, they're called comedians. 128 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: He said, the idea that this is suddenly being taken seriously, 129 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: and of course, luckily for all of us, President Biden 130 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: came along and described us as garbage. 131 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 2: Can I make a comment on it? We spend what 132 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 2: seventy two hours? I think everybody that's registered as a 133 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 2: Republican had to denounce an account for a comedian that 134 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 2: had a bad joke four hours before Trump. And then 135 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 2: Tim Waltz had himself booked on ABC this morning after 136 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 2: the Biden comment. And this is what Stephanopls said. Because 137 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 2: everyone asked, what do you think of Waltz's answer, I said, 138 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 2: forget the answer, look at the question. Republicans have seized 139 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 2: on a comment that Biden made. We didn't seize on anything. 140 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 2: He insulted seventy five million Americans. And then he went 141 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 2: on he said he Biden, did he step on her message? Governor? 142 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 2: Wait a second, we didn't get asked did the comedian 143 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 2: step on Trump's message? It was do you denounce him? 144 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 2: Was he wrong? Was he bad. You know, should they apologize? 145 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 2: Should he genuflect in the direction of Puerto Rico for 146 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 2: seven days in a row and yet here we are 147 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 2: with them just brushing us. So did he step on 148 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 2: her message? You know where was the accountability there? 149 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: Well, first of all, I don't take anybody and the 150 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: propaganda media seriously. Look, Stephanoppolis is a professional Democrat period. 151 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: He was Clinton's spokesperson. Before that, he worked in the 152 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: House for the Democratic leader. So I just don't pay 153 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: any attention to him. Most of the reporters in the 154 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: big elite places are hardline left wingers. They couldn't possibly 155 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: have given an honest account of Trump's speech or of 156 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: the scale of the Trump's success that's going on. But 157 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: my view, as a practitioner one time practitioner anyway, is 158 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: if you can go to McDonald's, which eighty seven percent 159 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: of the country goes to, and then you can go 160 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: to the Steelers and have people chanting USA USA, and 161 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: then you can do the most popular podcasts in the 162 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: world and you actually break all of his records. I 163 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: think they're above eighty million now downloads, and then you 164 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: go and you get every single cable news channel to 165 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: carry you live when you give you big speech. And then, 166 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: by the way, there was a comedian. I mean, the 167 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: total mismatch is so silly. When Bezos told the Posts 168 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: they could not endorse, they supposedly, as of this morning, 169 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: have lost two hundred and fifty thousand subscribers because those 170 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 1: people want blood, and they want them news media that 171 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 1: gives them blood. They don't care about the truth. They 172 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: care about hating Trump, and they want to be allowed 173 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: to stand around the three and chant we hate Trump, 174 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: we hate Trump. I'm supposed to be interviewing, you're not 175 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: supposed to be reviewing me. Let me switch back to 176 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: being the host. I thought it was weird if you're 177 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: trying to be the candidate of change to set up 178 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:13,719 Speaker 1: an event in front of the White. 179 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 2: House, you think, honestly, I think that Joe Biden was 180 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 2: walking back and forth down the hallway like, Jill, what's 181 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 2: going on on them? Ma? All tonight? Where is everybody? 182 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 2: And they were like, Oh, don't worry, Joe, just have dinner. 183 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 2: Like how embarrassing that they have the event the guys 184 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 2: right behind them and they don't invite them. 185 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: I think he said the garbage line knowing it would 186 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: break through and knowing it would smother her speech. Look, 187 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: this guy's a professional. He's been in office since nineteen 188 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: seventy two. Almost everything he's done since she got the 189 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: nomination has been undermining her. He's not done her any favors. 190 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: But I also think your points exactly right. How do 191 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: you hold a speech where you're the vice president and 192 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: you're in front of the place where the president and lives. 193 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: Somebody commented him being up on the balcony watching. 194 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 2: In all seriousness, with the lights and power that it 195 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 2: took to get that on. There's no way that he 196 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 2: wasn't looking out and saying what's going on out there. 197 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 2: I hate always feeling like I want to bash the media, 198 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 2: but I also want people to have perspective. When we 199 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 2: didn't have some of the Republican elders attend the convention, 200 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 2: the media went nuts. George W. Bush and Mitt Romney 201 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 2: will not attend the Republican National Convention this year. And 202 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 2: to your point, there's an event that you can throw 203 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 2: a baseball at from the White House that Joe Biden's 204 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 2: not at, and he's sitting there and no one brings 205 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 2: it up. I mean, honestly, they could have said Joe, 206 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 2: we forgot to invite you come on down. He would 207 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 2: have been there in eight seconds. But how did that go? Undiscussed? 208 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: The number one goal of the propaganda media for the 209 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: next days is to defeat Trump. 210 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 2: Well, you think about it, they've gone all in two 211 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 2: cycles in a row, and now it's like, what do 212 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 2: we do? They are about to have the conniption of 213 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 2: a lifetime because their worst dream the twenty sixteen one. 214 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 2: I don't think they really thought it was going to 215 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 2: come true this time. I think they're like, it's gonna 216 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 2: happen again, and four years were going to be stuck 217 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 2: getting treated the way that we did. 218 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: Well, Except this time he will be tougher, He's more knowledgeable. 219 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: He will not be nearly as forgiving. I think part 220 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: of the time he was waving between can I placate 221 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 1: them or do I have to fight them? I don't 222 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: think he'll have much doubt at this stage. I've seen 223 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: it twice in my career. If you go back and 224 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: look on YouTube the night we won in ninety four, 225 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: the look on the faces of the newscasters as it 226 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: began to sink in. I remember one reporter told Bill 227 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: Paxson three or four days later you defeated Governor Cuomo, 228 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 1: who's the man I most admire. But I'll eventually forgive you. 229 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: This is a reporter, it was unthinkable. 230 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 2: That was my first campaign. I was there when you 231 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 2: were walking around telling people I'm running for Speaker of 232 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 2: the House. People are like, uh huh, sure, sure, absolutely. 233 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 2: I don't think that they thought it could happen. I 234 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 2: don't think that's a bridge too far, And I don't 235 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 2: think they thought Trump could win in twenty sixty. 236 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: You can go to YouTube and pull up Election Night 237 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen and you get the same looks, the same 238 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 1: Oh my god, he's carrying Pennsylvania. Oh god, he's now 239 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: carrying Michigan. Oh what does this mean. It's just funny 240 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: to watch as the evening went on, they had this 241 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: sort of arc of disaster. 242 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 2: I think that the problem is that they didn't see 243 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 2: nineteen ninety four coming, and they didn't see this coming 244 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 2: twenty sixteen. The difference is this time they may not 245 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 2: want it. I think at some point there is a 246 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 2: degree of acknowledgment of what the polls say that they 247 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 2: have to go. It's probably going to happen, and it's 248 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 2: going to probably be very difficult for four years for 249 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 2: us because we're not going to have our butts kissed 250 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 2: the way that we're used to. 251 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: If we pick up the Senate, which I'm pretty certain 252 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: we will, we have a slight increase in the House. 253 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 1: They're facing a Washington in January that is about as 254 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: far away from the elite news media as you could 255 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: possibly be. 256 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 2: By the way, I will say this, you mentioned this 257 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 2: one of the things that I think Trump has done 258 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 2: brilliantly during this cycle. And I think there's probably one 259 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 2: more cycle where legacy media gets the attention that they 260 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 2: still somewhat get. But I think Trump you mentioned the 261 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 2: Joe Rogan podcast the beginning, whether it's the Nelk Boys 262 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 2: or Patrick Beckdavid or the Shawn Splicer podcast, Trump has 263 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 2: utilized new independent media in a way that nobody else has. 264 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 2: I think it's great for independent media, So just a 265 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 2: overall it's great, but also he's recognized that I don't 266 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 2: need them. I can go to places where I have 267 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,959 Speaker 2: a better discussion. He commented the other day. I think 268 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 2: it was un Rogan or Patrick McDavid, but he was like, 269 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 2: I love long form and I think it's a good 270 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 2: platform for him. So I actually think that it's been 271 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 2: brilliant how he's utilized the new media and it's all 272 00:13:58,000 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 2: so good for the medium itself. 273 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: Well in a contrast perfectly with the fact that it's 274 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: clear that Kamala Harris couldn't survive. 275 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 2: Right, somebody keeps out do you think she could do 276 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 2: Joe Rogan? I just look at me, dude, she couldn't 277 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 2: handle the view. If Sonny Hosting trips you up. I 278 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 2: mean seriously, if Sonny hosting trips you up with, what 279 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 2: would you do different? Can you imagine being the dumb 280 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 2: staffer that goes and asks would you like to do 281 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 2: three hours with Joe Rogan? They're like you're fired? 282 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and of course JD Evans properly filled the gap. 283 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: So now you're going to have the presidential Canada and 284 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: the vice presidential Canada on the most popular podcast in 285 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: the world. 286 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. 287 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: And my prediction is a JD, who I like a 288 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: great deal, will not draw as many as Trump. 289 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 2: I'll take that bad. 290 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, So, as you're watching all this, what 291 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: are you a que off of over the next days? 292 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 2: So I'm going to look at early vote and the 293 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 2: percentage of Republican voters that the change from twenty twenty. 294 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 2: That's going to be my number one thing, because there's 295 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 2: no question it's a good sign for Republicans. You look 296 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 2: at Alleghany County, for example, Western PA. Eighty five eighty 297 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 2: six percent of Republicans voted on election day in twenty twenty, 298 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 2: even during COVID, and right now only eight percent of 299 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 2: that eighty has voted early and we're still beating them, right, so, 300 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 2: meaning that you have a lot of runway to play with. 301 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 2: As we headed in, Biden won early vote in Pennsylvania 302 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 2: by about one point three million. Republicans are just crushing it. 303 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 2: I have a site that I go to a road 304 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 2: to two seventy on my show, and I started to 305 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 2: go through every one of the states where early vote was. 306 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 2: Republicans traditionally lose big early vote. They're holding their own 307 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 2: or winning. You look at Nevada, for example, Clark County 308 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 2: holding our own. That's Vegas, as you know, county up 309 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 2: in the Reno area. If Republicans are doing really well 310 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 2: and closing that gap, this is going to be a 311 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 2: very good night. The other thing you asked me what 312 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 2: I look at time and money, right, those are the 313 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 2: two things in a campaign that are the most valuable. 314 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 2: So where are the candidates spending their time and where 315 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 2: they're putting their money. New Hampshire I think is in play. 316 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 2: I think New Jersey is going to be close six 317 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 2: seven points. In New Jersey, working men and women are 318 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 2: just tired of the excuses. I think culturally we've jumped 319 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 2: the shark right, this idea of hey, I'm a liberal, 320 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 2: I believe in liberal causes, but what you guys are 321 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 2: doing on trans has gone too far. And then the 322 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 2: economic piece, the inflation and the immigration piece. It's like 323 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 2: guys people who are traditional Democrats just think their party 324 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 2: went too far, and I think that that's going to 325 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 2: be reflected. There are some states that I don't know 326 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 2: that will win, but I think we're going to do 327 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 2: a lot better in blue states than we have before. 328 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: I think there's a very real likelihood that he's going 329 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: to end up winning the popular vote because he's not 330 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: going to lose New York by the size of the 331 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: last time. He's not going to lose New Jersey by 332 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: that size. I don't even think he's gonna lose California 333 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: by the size he lost it in twenty. 334 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 2: Can you imagine how the heads are going to explode? 335 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 2: To me? Last time, when I've heard, well, you didn't 336 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 2: win the popular vote, that's like, you know, you didn't 337 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 2: kick more field goals than the other team in football, 338 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 2: It's like, that's not how the game's played. So why 339 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 2: would we go campaign in Illinois if we're going to 340 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 2: lose it? But if he wins the popular vote, they 341 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 2: will explode. 342 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: Let me run you through the states are the ones 343 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: that they called swing states. Although you started getting a 344 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 1: New Hampshire. 345 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 2: Or a Virginia, Virginia down to. 346 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 1: Well, Minnesota, he's down three and a pole that came 347 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: out yesterday. 348 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 2: There's four tier twos. I think New Hampshire, Virginia, New Mexico, 349 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 2: and Minnesota. I think New Mexico and Minnesota are and 350 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 2: kind of my bucket. Then Virginia, I think New Hampshire 351 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 2: is the easiest to pick up. And then Virginia. 352 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: Let's run through in for a second and give us 353 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: your expert opinion. Pennsylvania, I think we pull it out. 354 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 2: I just gave you my example of where we are 355 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 2: in Alleghany County. But I think if you look at 356 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 2: lucerne Fayette county where Republicans have overcome the voter registration gap. Now, 357 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 2: remember every county in Pennsylvania has either gotten less Democrat 358 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 2: or more Republican by registration. That's a trend, right. You 359 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 2: look at the polls, even Dave McCormick. Again, everything is inching. 360 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 2: It may not be seismic. It's not going quick. Every 361 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 2: time you see a poll it's like slightly more to 362 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 2: the right. I think Trump picks this thing up. 363 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: You had the junior senator just two days ago, say 364 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:56,479 Speaker 1: he'd been out across western Pennsylvania, and Democrats don't get it. 365 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 2: No if he wins those nineteen electoral votes. But I 366 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 2: hope is that we don't need Pennsylvania. But as I 367 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 2: said earlier, if they don't go into election day with 368 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 2: an eight hundred thousand vote win, I don't see how 369 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 2: you make it up. 370 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. So what about Michigan? 371 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 2: To me, Michigan in North Carolina are the ones that 372 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 2: I'm going to watch the closest. I feel very bullish 373 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 2: on Michigan. I think Mike Rodgers, who you know, by 374 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 2: the way, Mike Rodgers won his first election by eighty 375 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 2: eight votes when he ran for the House used to 376 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 2: call him landslide. I think that he's going to pull 377 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 2: this thing out. Same thing you look at Slockin. She 378 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 2: puts out an ad tying her to Trump. I'll work 379 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 2: with Donald Trump. You don't do that if you don't 380 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 2: think that Donald Trump's going to win. The three things 381 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 2: working against Harris there the union workers not supporting them, 382 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 2: the non endorsement, and the electrical vehicle mandates. You've got 383 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 2: the Arab community, and then you got young black men 384 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 2: in the suburbs of Detroit. I think for all of 385 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 2: those reasons. He adds out Michigan. Now, remember he won 386 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 2: Michigan in twenty sixteen by ten seven hundred and three votes, 387 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 2: which is point two to two of a win. This 388 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 2: is not going to be huge, but I think he ekes. 389 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: It out all right. Wisconsin. 390 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 2: Wisconsin, to me is the most complicated of the states. 391 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 2: The voter file doesn't append by registration or history, so 392 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 2: it's a lot harder the model suggests. And if you 393 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 2: look at how Ron Johnson has performed and how he 394 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 2: did in twenty sixteen, I feel very good about Wisconsin again. 395 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 2: I feel like it's tied to Michigan. If we win one, 396 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 2: we win both if we lose one, we lose both 397 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 2: by a hair But I also think the same thing's 398 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 2: going on with Eric Covedy there, who's running against Stanmy Baldwin. 399 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 2: Same thing. Look at the trajectory and you want to 400 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 2: be surfing that wave heading towards the beach with enough 401 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 2: time on election day, and they're both timing it. They're 402 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 2: peaking at the right time. I see a scenario where 403 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 2: he carries all three Blue Wall states. If you were 404 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 2: to lose one, it's not going to be by much though. 405 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: So turning to the south, where are you in Georgia? 406 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 2: Georgia, I'm the most bullish. It's hard to tell the 407 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 2: Georgia expert about Georgia, but I like where we are. 408 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 2: In terms of voter registration, turnout has been phenomenal, especially 409 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 2: in the rural counties. Blacks are not turning out the 410 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 2: way that they should. That's not good news for her. 411 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 2: So for those reasons, I feel good about Georgia. You 412 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 2: look at the performance of the Libertarian candidate in twenty sixteen. 413 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 2: The Libertarian got about one hundred and twenty thousand votes, 414 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 2: so they've got a third party issue in Georgia. But 415 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 2: it's not Jill Stein the Green Party candidate, which is 416 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 2: interesting because that's where she's been helpful to him, especially. 417 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 2: We'll get to North Carolina in a second, but that 418 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 2: to me is the tough one because it could be 419 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 2: our libertarian problem there. 420 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: Well, I was going to go to North kinda next. 421 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, so North Carolina is interesting. In twenty sixteen, my 422 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 2: numbers may be off here. Trump won North Carolina by 423 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy four thousand votes, Jill Stein got 424 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 2: roughly one hundred and thirty thousand votes, and the margin 425 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 2: was about three points. In twenty twenty, when Jill Stein 426 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 2: wasn't the candidate, the Green Party still had somebody on 427 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 2: the ballot. They got just over twelve thousand votes and 428 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 2: Trump only won by like I think it's one point 429 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 2: three seventy four thousand votes if I'm correct, And so 430 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 2: she's back on the ballot. That's good news for us. 431 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 2: So anyway, I feel good. I am concerned about the 432 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 2: effect of the hurricane on Western Pa because the ability 433 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 2: to early vote, not the desire, the ability for some 434 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 2: of these folks to get out and vote. They're making 435 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 2: it really easy if you live in the democratic stranglehold 436 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 2: of Asheville, but the rule are not there. I talked 437 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 2: to James Blair, the political director of the Trump campaign. 438 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 2: He said, they're really pushing them to open more early 439 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 2: voting sites. North Carolina, of all of them, is probably 440 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 2: the most worrisome, but more for logistical reasons than anything else. 441 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: One of my closest friends lives in Black Mountain, and 442 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,719 Speaker 1: he said, these folks are going to get there if 443 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: they have to walk over glass. 444 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 2: I know you remember what I was just saying. It's 445 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 2: not desire that. When I talked to the Trump campaign, 446 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 2: they said, logistically, they're not making it easy for these guys. 447 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 2: So I think they want to vote. I think they're 448 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 2: pissed about the response. I think they're pissed about the policies, 449 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 2: but they're like suddenly it's like, oh, well, then you're 450 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 2: gonna have to drive an extra four hours. 451 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 1: Right. We had some of that playing out the other 452 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: day in Delaware County, Pennsylvania, where if you want to 453 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: vote Republican, we know you really could do it easier. 454 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: He went out to the satellite location. Oh and by 455 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: the way, the satellite location didn't have any applications left. 456 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 2: Right, Well, I give the RNC and the Trump campaign 457 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 2: a lot of credit. This time, the lawyers are getting 458 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,719 Speaker 2: ahead of the problem. I think one of my biggest 459 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 2: issues with twenty twenty was these guys were behind the 460 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 2: curve when it came to addressing legal concerns, and they're 461 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 2: now addressing them head on, and they're calling them out well. 462 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: As you know Wadley as the RNC chairman from Northline, 463 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: when I talked to him at Madison Square Garden, he's 464 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: pretty bullish. He thinks, did they know what they're doing? Good? 465 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,919 Speaker 2: I like that. I like when people who know that 466 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 2: state feel confident. That's why, like I said, you know 467 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 2: Georgia better. 468 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: Than anybody tell me about Arizona Arizona. 469 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 2: I was just in Thursday Friday two events with Trump 470 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 2: a rally, and that I did of thinking those guys 471 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 2: are fired up. You look at the trends there same thing. 472 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 2: Maricopa County Republicans were down about six percent or had 473 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 2: about a three percent registration at advantage. They've now grown 474 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 2: that to six. The growth and registration in every single 475 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 2: county in Arizona has been phenomenal. Their early vote has 476 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 2: been great for them. I feel really good. Unfortunately it's 477 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 2: out west, but I would tell you if we don't 478 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 2: do really well in Arizona, I mean the nice thing 479 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 2: about the East Coast. We do well at North Carolina, 480 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 2: New Hampshire. We look at some places, and then in 481 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 2: Northern Virginia and not winning. But if you're doing well there, 482 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 2: get ready for a great night. But Arizona, I feel bullish. 483 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 1: On I just saw a pole came out that we 484 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: may win the Senate seat. 485 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, carry Lee. Last pole, she was tied. Now 486 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 2: she's up one again. The thing that people have to 487 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 2: remember when you're looking at a pole, I don't look 488 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 2: at anything in a vacuum, but look at the trends, 489 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 2: and the water is flown all in one direction. And 490 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 2: that's the thing. It's not just Trump. Every Senate seat 491 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 2: is going the right. Sam Brown in Nevada, same thing. 492 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 2: He may come up a little short, but every Senate race. 493 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 2: And Carrie Lake is definitely in that but is moving 494 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 2: the thing moving in from left to right everyone and she. 495 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: Will change the Senate. Yeah. 496 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 2: I also will tell you I'm really bullish on Eric Covedy, 497 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 2: not just winning, but I think he's going to be 498 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 2: a great, great addition of the Senate. 499 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: The last of these states she just mentioned is Nevada, 500 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: what are your sins? Look? 501 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 2: I mentioned this earlier the early vote when John Ralston, 502 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 2: who is a Democratic operative mass grading as an independent 503 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 2: journalist out there, gets nervous about Republican performance in early vote, 504 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 2: which she has. That tells you everything you need to know. 505 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 2: The Republicans are holding their own in Clark County, in 506 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 2: that Vegas area, and then in Washo, and they're overperforming 507 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 2: in the rural areas. Nevada might only have six electoral votes, 508 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 2: but this could be a big, big night for Republicans. 509 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 2: I do believe for the first time since two thousand 510 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 2: and four, we carry Nevada. 511 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: I have a theory, which we'll find out a lot 512 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 1: more about on election day, that she can't pull them out. 513 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 1: If you look around, the Democratic drop off is even 514 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 1: more impressive than the Republican increase. 515 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, Trump's played these policy pronouncements beautiful. No tax on tips, 516 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 2: no texts on overtime, no tax on American bought cars, 517 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 2: home health care deductions. These are things that actually impact 518 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:21,959 Speaker 2: people's lives. And if you're a casino worker or a server, 519 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 2: you're like, Hey, this will make my life better. And 520 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 2: she's sitting there talking about these existential policy pronunciations, Trump 521 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 2: speaks directly to them. I was so worried about Nevada. 522 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 2: Robert Cahley from Trafalgar had said to be Sean, this 523 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 2: is like probably a month ago. I said, it looks 524 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 2: really good out there. He said, it's like Lucy in 525 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 2: the football. We always think we're doing well, but now 526 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 2: the numbers are coming in with early vote, and I 527 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 2: feel like we're going to do it this time. 528 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: Yep. I think that's probably true. Now. One last thing, 529 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: which is I'm a little concerned about the number of 530 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: states that are already announcing that they're not going to 531 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: count an election night. 532 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 2: We were just talking about Nevada, right, They literally fought 533 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 2: to allow ballots to command up to three days late 534 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,679 Speaker 2: that are not postmarked. How do you go to a 535 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 2: judge and say, hey, we want them to come in 536 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 2: three days late. Okay, I can see a case that says, hey, 537 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 2: sometimes mail can be slow some of these people in 538 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 2: rural counties. Then that's why you plan ahead. But okay, 539 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 2: fair enough. But then they say, and we don't want 540 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 2: them to have a postmark. What does that tell you 541 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,719 Speaker 2: that It's like, let's see how it goes and then 542 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 2: we'll get enough. 543 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: I have actually personally been through that in Georgia. It's inspirational. Listen. 544 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to joining you on the Two Way 545 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: shows in the morning, and I'm looking forward to election 546 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: night and comparing notes. I can't wrap this up without 547 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 1: talking about your podcast, The Shawn Spicer Show, and your 548 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 1: new starring rule as a co host in Two Ways, 549 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: The Morning Meeting, which you co host with journalist Mark 550 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: Awprin and Democratic strategist Dan Tarentine. You all host this 551 00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: Morning Meeting on Two Way every weekday morning at nine. 552 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,360 Speaker 1: And I also want to mention your new book, Radical Nation. 553 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 1: People can find you by going to Sean Spicer dot com. 554 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:13,360 Speaker 1: You're a very smart observer of the totality of the scene, 555 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: much more than just politics. I really appreciate you coming 556 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 1: and spending time. 557 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 2: Anything for you, mister speaker. You know that I wouldn't 558 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 2: be where I am in politics without you, the tapes, 559 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 2: Joe Gaylord and his books. And you know this, I 560 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 2: have almost all of the go Pac tapes. 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