1 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: If you're considering having children or going on birth control. 2 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: I think a wonderful idea is go to a public pool. 3 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: Go to a public pool and spend the day there, 4 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: just sit there and observe what goes on. Or go 5 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: Christmas break. Spring break I think is even bigger. I 6 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: think President's Weekend might be one of the biggest weekends 7 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: of the year. Pick a mock five kids holiday weekend. 8 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: Go to an all inclusive resort, like a place where 9 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: everything is included in, Free drinks are included in, parents 10 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: are just and just sit by the pool, and then 11 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: you decide if parenting is correct for yourself. Because birth 12 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: control pills are always just like tampon commercials are kind 13 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: of just about like women and women's choices and what 14 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: they you know, they're always just like they look like 15 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: tampon commercials. And I just don't think the birth control 16 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: pills should look like tampon commercials. Birth control pills should 17 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: look like a beach side Marriott on the busiest holiday weekend, 18 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 1: or like the Jersey Shore on Memorial Day Monday, you know, 19 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 1: like or Saturday night. Um, like a six o'clock sort 20 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: of dinner buffet, like a good a good pool side, 21 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: big barbecue all you can eat kids event with Like 22 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 1: there's a barbecue and then there's a pool, like any 23 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: real serious kids event. That's what a birth control commercial 24 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 1: should be. Like, I mean just saying, if this isn't 25 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: for you, then you should consider birth control. I just 26 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: think that that would be a better you know, oh, 27 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: a cruise. Go on, get on a cruise. So if 28 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: you could do a day pass, call up management. I'm 29 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: considering parenting. And I heard this is like a Disney cruise. 30 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of kids on here, all excited, 31 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: and I just want to come on, go to Universal 32 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: for the day. Universal, go to Disney. Just go on 33 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: like a Saturday, fourth of July weekend. Just show up there. 34 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: It's like, I'm thinking of having kids. This is how 35 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to decide by the end of the day. 36 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: Please report back. I just want to hear what you decide, 37 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: and if you maybe decided about the number of kids 38 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: may be changing, because I know that one kid is 39 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: one kid and that's you know, got its challenges. It's 40 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: fairly easy like running gun to Now you've gotta like, 41 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: you know, you gotta ask more than one person what 42 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: they want to do, because we do are we are 43 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: our kids assistants and we do work for them. I 44 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: serve at the pleasure of my daughter, um. And then 45 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: you have three and and two kids is two kids, 46 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: and three becomes nine. So you just it's your body 47 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: and your choice. And children are wonderful. But I just 48 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: think you should enter into that lifelong commitment with both 49 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: eyes open. And I think you should go to a 50 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: massive pool that definitely has a water slide. Uh, definitely 51 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: is a frozen drink machine behind the behind the bar 52 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: typically a bar that is located inside a pool, so 53 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: you could pee while drinking alcohol. That's kind of the 54 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: places that I think you should decide what you're parenting 55 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: journey is going to entail. Today's guest is Scott Harrison, 56 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: founder and CEO of a nonprofit called Charity Water, which 57 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: aims to bring clean drinking water to every person on 58 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: the planet. Scott got a start in the nightclub and 59 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: party scene, working as a promoter in Manhattan. Uninspired by 60 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: the luxury of nightclub culture, shocking, he completely changed the 61 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: trajectory of his career. Scott traveled to the coast of 62 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: Liberia a volunteer as a photo journalist and got inspired 63 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: to change the realities of areas without access to clean 64 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: drinking water. With the help of over one million donors, 65 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: the organization has brought in more than six D forty 66 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: million dollars. This has helped fund over nine water projects 67 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: in twenty nine countries. The charity continues to go today, 68 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: expanding access to clean water worldwide. Scott's journey from nightclub 69 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: connoisseur to businessman and humanitarian is an inspiring tale that 70 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure you will love. I hope you enjoyed day's show. 71 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: You moved from l A because a lot of people 72 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: did that, right, Yeah, I mean, you know, we lived 73 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: in Tribeca, soho for you know, quarter of a century 74 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 1: and uh just moved out during the pandemic and are 75 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: kind of liking life outside the city for a while. Wow. Okay, 76 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: well this will be uh interesting, this will be different. 77 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: Some things I read about you are similar to my 78 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: partner Michael, who's on the ground right now in Poland, 79 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: and he had to use your word or what I 80 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: think you described as hedonistic nightclub background. He used to 81 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: be like, you know, friends with Madonna and ingrac Saris 82 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: and did all the Miami nightclubs. And you know, then 83 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: built like thirty to fifty million dollar houses for rich 84 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: people in Miami. UM and then he fell on hard times, 85 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: which I would let him tell the story on his own, 86 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: but it was like basically homeless. But he's dedicated his 87 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 1: life to UM disaster relief. So and and it's funny 88 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: because in the two of us have a big production background, 89 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: him doing clubs and me I used to do like 90 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: events on Alcatraz, big events for Disney, like million dollar, 91 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: multimillion dollar events, and the logistics really do tie into 92 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: philanthropy and UM as does business. So when people ask 93 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:24,239 Speaker 1: me about it, I always think about an interesting, weird 94 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: background that sort of could make you good at philanthropy. 95 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: So I just wanted to kind of at some talk 96 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: about that with you, and we're you know, I'm I'm 97 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 1: still promoting. I've been promoting something different for fifteen years, 98 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: right than than the velvet rope. You are a nightclub 99 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: promoter like him, so you're just promoting something different. Yeah, 100 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: you gotta be a hype man too to get people 101 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: to to believe in you because there are so many 102 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: other efforts to so UM All right, so where did 103 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: you grow up great? I was born in Philadelphia and 104 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: middle class family. My dad was a business guy, my 105 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: mom was a writer, and when I was four, there 106 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: was a carbon monoxide gas leak in our house and 107 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 1: we all almost died. Bethany, So my mom on New 108 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: Year's Day walks across the bedroom collapses like the canary 109 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: in the coal mine. You really don't smell it. Nothing, 110 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: No carbon monoxide is nothing. And we know people who 111 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: have you know who have died with this. So it 112 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: was a crack in the heat exchanger. Thank god Mom 113 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: passed out. This led to the series of blood tests. 114 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: It led to discovery, the discovery of carbonoxide in her bloodstream, 115 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: and then my dad found the leak and ripped it 116 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: out after the gas company had come a couple of 117 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: times and said, oh, no, everything's fine here, we can't 118 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: We don't think there's any problems. So you know, life 119 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: changed for me at four. Mom became an invalid for 120 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: the rest of permanently disabled really from the rest of 121 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: her life. This experience, from this experience, what happened was 122 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: her immune system just irreparably shut down, and everything in 123 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: the world made her sick from this point on, So 124 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: car fumes would make her sick. Soap would make her sick. 125 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: I mean, if you brought cologne or perfume anywhere near here, 126 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: you know, she would she would break out, she would 127 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: get migraines. So we kind of moved her into a bubble. 128 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: They actually made a movie about this with Julianne Moore 129 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: many years ago, called Safe and She Was. My mom 130 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: was allergic to the world. So as a child, I remember, 131 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: it's like, it's kind of like the like bubble boy, right, 132 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: So I remember she lived in a in a bathroom 133 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: upstairs covered in aluminum foil. She slept on an army 134 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: cup that had been washed twenty times in baking soda 135 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: to get all the smells out. And she wore three 136 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: m masks. So I I never really saw my mom's 137 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: face growing up. I mean, I'm from Gosh. For the 138 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: last forty years or so, my mom would wear you know, 139 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: and masks and charcoal masks because you know, to woid explosion. 140 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: She was so sick. Bethany, I remember that the ink, 141 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: the print from books, new books would make her sick. 142 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: So my dad and I would bake her books in 143 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: the oven that she wanted to read, try to outgask 144 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: get that smell. Out, and then I would walk upstairs. 145 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: I would knock on her bathroom door. She would open it. 146 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: It would kind of make the sound of tinfoil, you know, flapping. 147 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: She would greet me with a mask on and a 148 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: cellophane bag and cotton gloves, and she would take the 149 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: book for me and she would put it inside this 150 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: cellophane bag and then she would be able to read. 151 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: So that was childhood. That sounds traumatic for you, I 152 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: mean beyond her. I mean it sounds traumatic for her, 153 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: But that sounds like a traumatic childhood. You must be 154 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: that's your tremendous caretaker, because you had just walked on 155 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: eggshell as your whole life. It was all I knew. 156 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: You know. I wrote a book a couple of years ago, 157 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: and um, the writer that I was working with, you know, 158 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: she said the same thing. She's like, oh my gosh. 159 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: Like I was crying, like, you know, just imagining you 160 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: as a little boy, and I'm like, I had such 161 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 1: a normal childhood. What are you talking about? Everything was fine. 162 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: You know. I was a caregiver and I did the 163 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: cooking and the cleaning for mom, and I was needed 164 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: and I wanted to be a doctor when I grew 165 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: up to help you know, sick people like my mom. 166 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: And yeah, so I wasn't kind of aware. I don't 167 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: think at the time. This was just the only life 168 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: that I'd ever known, which was you know, dealing with hardship. 169 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: Uh and and you know, a life of grit and determination. Well, um, 170 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: it took a long road to get you into philanthropy. 171 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 1: So what did you want to be when you grow up? 172 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: And what what did you do for a living for 173 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: most of your life? Yeah? Well I always had, you know, 174 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: the entrepreneurial genes growing up. So I would sell holiday 175 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: cards door to the door. I would you know, borrow 176 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: money for a leaf blower, and then I would go 177 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 1: and you know, blow the leaves off neighbors lawns. And 178 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: but I the answer would have been doctor. I was 179 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: going to be a doctor. I was gonna help cure 180 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: my mom and others. And my my parents were They 181 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: were Christians, kind of nondenominational, and so I grew up 182 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: in a family of faith. I went to church every Sunday. 183 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: I played piano, and I was that good kid that 184 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 1: didn't smoke, didn't drink, didn't swear, didn't have sex. You know, 185 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: I was just I was. I was a good kid. 186 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: So then all that changed, act to eighteen years old. 187 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: I moved to New York City with the band and 188 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: I joined a rock band, and I was gonna, you know, 189 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: get our band a record deal. We were going to 190 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: become rich and famous. We were going to be you know, 191 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: opening up for you two at Madison Square Garden. In 192 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: like a period of months. We were pretty good. I 193 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: mean we played at CBGB's and you know some of 194 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: the legendary clubs. We were discovered by, you know, the 195 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: Scorpions and some big managers. The band we weren't the worst. 196 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: We we we we could have been a thing, but 197 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: the band all hated each other and everybody was doing drugs. 198 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: So that lasted about six months. Okay, what was it 199 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:54,719 Speaker 1: called Sunday River after after a ski resort in New 200 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: Hampshire that none of us had ever been to. Okay, 201 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: it sounds authentic. So I moved to the city. Uh, 202 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: for a time, I thought I wanted to be an actor. 203 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: So I was, you know, auditioning for commercials. I put 204 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 1: on a David Mammitt playoff Broadway. Then I was working 205 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: in a music store, and then at nineteen I stumbled 206 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: into the nightclub business, and I realized there was this 207 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 1: extraordinary job in New York City where if you could 208 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: get the right rich and beautiful people into the right clubs, 209 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: you could make a ton of money selling the alcohol. 210 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: Can I ask how old you are? Nineteen? So two 211 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: years before I'm legally allowed now six, we're gonna because 212 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 1: I know this language, because I lime like going to 213 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: the Palladium. Yeah, I know Palladium. Well. So my first 214 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: job was for Peter Gation, working at Limelight and working 215 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: at the Tunnel, and worked at Lotus for many years 216 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: and Pejia, and you know, a bunch of the next 217 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 1: ten years kind of went by very quickly. I worked 218 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: at forty clubs across Manhattan, and you know, you you 219 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 1: know this scene. I mean jay Z at table one, 220 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: Puffy at table three, and you know, the club promoters 221 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: with the model sitting at table two thinking we're fantastic 222 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: and fabulous, and Spray Champagne from the DJ booth, and 223 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: Mark and Eugene and Noah and Jason and yep, yep, yep, yeah, 224 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: I know them all very well. So you know, I 225 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: picked up all the vices that you would imagine would 226 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: come with that territory, lots of smoking, drinking, uh, you know, 227 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: sleeping around, chasing models to Milan in Paris and you 228 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: know London fashion shows. Then the drugs, then the you know, 229 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: the gambling and the pornography and the strip clubs, and 230 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: just this kind of dark descent which looked like the 231 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: exact opposite of doctor. You know, medical school never really happened. 232 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: I like that. See that would have been That would 233 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: have been a great cut title for a book. Hi. 234 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: So at eight, I was, you know, at a nice 235 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: loft in Midtown. I had a grand piano in my apartment. 236 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: I drove a bm W, I had the stupid Rolex watch, 237 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 1: and I started having some health issues. Yeah, we'd go 238 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: to the Hampton's, we go to Point to do Lesta 239 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: and busios and we'd follow g from circue to slay around. 240 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: It was a whole scene, and I was miserable. Bethany 241 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: was completely miserable. I was drunk and you know, drugged down, 242 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: and we'd we'd go to the we go to dinner 243 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: at ten pm, we'd go to the club at twelve, 244 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: we go to after hours at five, and I'd be 245 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: taking an ambient at noon, trying to go to sleep 246 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: looking out my window at other people, you know, having 247 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: salads on their lunch breaks, have worked like productive jobs 248 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: all day. So I one day half my body goes numb, 249 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 1: and I remember my club partners like, dude, no wonder, 250 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 1: like it's amazing you're even alive, you know, like how 251 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: you can't feel your body? Like I had no idea, Bethany. 252 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 1: I thought I had a neurological disease, and I it's 253 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: gonna die, you know. So I got the brain scans, 254 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: I got the CT scans, I got uh you know, 255 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: nodes hooked up and electric you know, pulses. Nobody could 256 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: find anything wrong with me. And for me, it was 257 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: a real wake up call that yeah, I was mortal, 258 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: and I've been living like I was gonna live forever. 259 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: And I just asked myself the question, like, oh my gosh, 260 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: Like what if I die in the next couple of months, 261 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: what has my life been about? Your legacy is nothing? 262 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: Literally nothing, My tombstone would read, here lies a club 263 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: promoter who got a million people wasted. But the only 264 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: thing you would have been able to say not that 265 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: I volunteered for a charity or gave or like did 266 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: anything constructive except get people into a club and get 267 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: him messed up. Right, Oh my god, you've got to 268 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: talk to Michael my part. You can't even believe your 269 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: lives are like you don't understand. He's that he's recovered 270 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: on his own. He did it, uh and never done 271 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: anything since, Like it's crazy, but he's dedicated his life 272 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: to philanthropy. You have to talk to him. Almost gonna 273 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: suggest today that we do it another day and that 274 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: I have you both on to talk. But you guys 275 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: talk to each other like I've never said that before. 276 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: You got to meet him. But anyway, Okay, so you 277 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: have a worthless life and a useless empty tombstone. And 278 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: then and then I'm a pretty radical guy. So I 279 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: wind up asking myself the question, you know, what would 280 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: the opposite of my life look like? And I think 281 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: the realization was a pivot is not needed here. This 282 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: is not a small course correction, like go find the 283 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: exact opposite of everything I say, think and do. But 284 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: were you tied into anyone where like you owed and 285 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: you were like shackle because sometimes I feel like it's 286 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: hard to get off the treadmill when you're shackled to 287 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: something and then one thing keeps you tied back in 288 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: and then you do another thing, or like or would 289 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: you just you were just a want like you would 290 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: just do a party, make money? Do a party, make 291 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: money so you could totally get out. No, no actual club, 292 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: no kind of ownership. You know, we were we were 293 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: like mercenaries. The minute nobody wanted to go to the club, 294 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: we found the next one they wanted to go to 295 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: and tried to try to make money there. So, you know, 296 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: I asked this question, what's the opposite of my life 297 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: looked like? And the only thing I could think of 298 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: was what if I took one year And this was 299 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: kind of a childhood biblical idea of a tithe what 300 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: if I gave ten percent of the decade that I 301 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: had wasted in service to others? And I got this idea, 302 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: like what if I volunteered somewhere and and money do 303 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: you have money saved? How much money do you have? Not? Really? 304 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: I mean you know, we were we were making great money, 305 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: and whatever we made, we spent a little more. Yeah, 306 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: so you were broke at that point too. I was. 307 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: I was pretty broke. Yeah, I mean my the clubs 308 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: were still going, the parties were still going. There was 309 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: some money coming in, not much, but yeah, no I didn't. 310 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: I didn't have anything saved, nothing saved. Put it this 311 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: way the apartment, and you can't you can't sustain. You 312 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: have to can't sustain in that life right then, unless 313 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: I literally liquidated my entire life. I sold, you know, watches, 314 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: I sold my video camera, I sold my speaker system. 315 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:02,119 Speaker 1: I just got rid of everything, and I started applying 316 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 1: to some of the famous humanitarian aid agencies or charities 317 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: that I've heard of over the years, like Doctors Without 318 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: Borders and the Red Cross, and UNI staff and World Vision. 319 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: And you know, maybe to the surprise of no one listening, 320 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: I'm denied by every organization I applied to. You know, 321 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: they are not looking for you know, drunk drug drug 322 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: adult nightclub promoters. Well what a minute. I don't understand. 323 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: You wanted a paid position at it. No, I wanted 324 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: a volunteer. You're telling me that not of these places 325 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: would let you volunteer. You didn't know about be strong then, 326 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: I didn't know that. By the way, we could go 327 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: into the big orgs for days and the money that's 328 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: the bureaucracy and all that. It's my entire life, but 329 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: very interesting. So so one organization wrote me back and 330 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: they said if I was willing to pay them five 331 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: a month for the pleasure of volunteering, and I was 332 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 1: willing to go live on a hospital ship in Liberia, 333 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: West Africa, a country it was actually Bethany, the poorest 334 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: country in the world at that time. It was it 335 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 1: had fallen off the United Nations development chart because there 336 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 1: was no data for a fourteen year civil war that 337 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 1: had just ended. And my role, my volunteer role that 338 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: I was paying five a month, was going to be 339 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: to be a photojournalist on the ship. And I was 340 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: not a photojournalist, but I had been a pretty good writer. 341 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 1: I had man managed to get a degree at n 342 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: y U, just going part time in communications and while 343 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 1: I was club promoting. So you always had a little 344 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: angle of you that wanted to be or do something. 345 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: You have some meaning, but you didn't get pulled into 346 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 1: the dark side. And I was an only child and 347 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 1: my dad had saved up, and it felt like, you know, 348 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 1: I had to honor him at least by mailing him 349 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: a diploma that I that I actually never saw. It 350 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,360 Speaker 1: just went straight to him. I was like, Dad, here 351 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 1: I did this for you. Um, I was like a 352 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: C minus student. But anyway, the degree helped me get 353 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: this job as a photojournalist, which then, you know, changed 354 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: the entire course of my life. So a couple of 355 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: weeks later, I was in West Africa walking up the 356 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 1: gangway of a five ft hospital ship full of three 357 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,479 Speaker 1: volunteers who had come from forty one countries, And they 358 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: were doctors and surgeons and nurses who had come to 359 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: offer free medical care in a country that had no electricity, 360 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:26,719 Speaker 1: no running water, no sewage system, and one doctor for 361 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 1: every fifty thousand of its citizens. Here in America we 362 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: have a doctor for every like two of us. So 363 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: there was no health care system. Everything had been broken 364 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: with a decade and a half of war, of terrible 365 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: civil war led by kids, and this this terrible guy, 366 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: Charles Taylor. So uh my life changed. Uh my third 367 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: day there, I woke up at five in the morning 368 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 1: and I was told that the whole mission started with 369 00:19:56,280 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: a patient screening. And this was where we'd advertise that 370 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: the ship was coming full of doctors, and people would 371 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: turn up with their different you know, illnesses and sicknesses, 372 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,360 Speaker 1: and we would schedule them for treatment. We were scheduling 373 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: for surgery on on the ship. Surgery what what? Why? 374 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 1: Certainly surgery. So people had cleft We specialize in cleft 375 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: lips and facial tumors and cataracts and uh, flesh sheeting disease. 376 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: You know, tumors were were a really big thing, just 377 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: growing on people's faces without access to a healthcare system. 378 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 1: So I knew that we had fifteen hundred kind of 379 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 1: passes to hand out, surgery passes to hand out, we'd 380 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: be able to help fifteen people. And then I learned 381 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: the government had given us a football stadium like the 382 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 1: soccer stadium in the center of the city to triage 383 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: the people that would come. And at five thirty in 384 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: the morning, I jumped in a Landrover. I was in 385 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: hospital scrubs. I had two Nikon D one X cameras 386 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 1: and we kind of snaked through the city and we 387 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: come up on the stadium and there's more than five 388 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 1: thousand people standing in the parking lot waiting for us 389 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: to open the doors. And yeah, and I will never 390 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: forget that that moment where we sent eventually over three 391 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: thousand six people home without the chance to see a doctor, 392 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: with no hope. We later learned many of them had 393 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: walked for more than a month from neighboring countries with 394 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 1: their children. They'd walked from Sierra Leone or Cotauvoir, Guinea 395 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: or Togo just hoping to see a doctor, but we 396 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: didn't have enough doctors. That turned into a year of 397 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 1: meeting extraordinary doctors and surgeons from all over the world. 398 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: I had to document all fifteen hundred people pre op 399 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: and postop. So I'm getting to know these you know, 400 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 1: kids that are that are blind with cataracts, or sixty 401 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: five year old women who live their entire life with 402 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: a cleft lip because they didn't have a hundred eighty 403 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 1: dollars to fix it, and even if they did, what 404 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 1: surgeon would they have gone to? So it was an 405 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: amazing experience. The cool thing is I had about fifteen 406 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 1: thousand people on my email list, and this was back 407 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: when open rates for so people went from getting invited 408 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: to Lotus or the product megastore in Soho, you know, 409 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: to a fashion party, two pictures of leprosy and tumors 410 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: and you know, cleft lips being repaired, and you know, 411 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,199 Speaker 1: of course my list got a little smaller. There are 412 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 1: bunch people who unsubscribed and said, you know, did not 413 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: sign up for this. This is not fashion, this is 414 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: not fun. But so many people were really moved and 415 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: you know, began to give money. Like you said, I 416 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: changed my life. I dedicated my life to this. Yeah. 417 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: I mean I've been doing cocaine with these people, like, 418 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: you know, four weeks previous, you know, at a club. 419 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: So I think they were just they're fascinated just to 420 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: see you know, it felt bizarre, like where's this guy, 421 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: where's this country? Like a hospital ship, like leprosy. I mean, 422 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: you know, it's just so foreign. And over the next year, 423 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: I kind of just let them see what I was 424 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 1: seeing through the eyes of of you know, a lay person, 425 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 1: through the eyes of the doctors, and through some of 426 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: the you know, the extraordinary nurses. And I want up 427 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: raising a lot of money for that organization and a 428 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 1: bunch of awareness and getting published in the Wall Street 429 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 1: Journal and you know, papers in London of of my 430 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: photos and stories. So I came back to New York 431 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: after a year. I didn't know what was next, so 432 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 1: I just signed up for another year. And it was 433 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 1: really that second year when I saw people same people 434 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: went back to Liberia, and it's there that I saw 435 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: people drinking dirty water for the first time in the 436 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: rural villages, and I was really determined to get off 437 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: the ship, you know, out of the city and understand 438 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 1: how people were living throughout the country. And I remember 439 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 1: seeing a thirteen year old girl drink from a green swamp. 440 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: And you know, Bethany, I've been selling vost water for 441 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 1: ten dollars. People would order ten ten bottles of water 442 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: for hunder bucks and not even drink the water. The 443 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: would drink champagne or Vodkins day table. So I just couldn't. 444 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: I had never seen children, you know, I mean, I 445 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: had known clean water. I'd taken it for granted my 446 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: entire life. And I learned two things. I learned half 447 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: the country didn't have clean water to drink, and half 448 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 1: the disease in the country was because people were drinking 449 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: disgusting water and didn't have access to hygiene or sanitation. So, 450 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: you know, I kind of stumbled into the root cause 451 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: of so much of the sickness that we were seeing, 452 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 1: so many of these conditions that we didn't even have 453 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: enough resources to treat. And there were you know, like 454 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: a couple million people that didn't have the most basic 455 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,959 Speaker 1: need for health met. So maybe this this full circle 456 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: back to the wanting to be a doctor. The chief 457 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: medical officer, the chief surgeon who had been there for 458 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: twenty five years, and I said something to the effect 459 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: of Scott, you care about medicine, you care about global health. 460 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: You know you want to be a doctor. Just go 461 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: get everybody in the world clean water. You would be 462 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: the greatest doctor that the world has ever seen. Because 463 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 1: I'm thinking more about this now with myself and with 464 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: what you know, how much money I've been able to 465 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: raise and what we've been able to resolve in different 466 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:27,880 Speaker 1: uh relief efforts, and the circuitous route to get there, 467 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: meaning you're better served doing what you've done than actually 468 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: being just operating on one person. You know, not that 469 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: that's not a very noble, but if you're operating on 470 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 1: one person at a time, you wouldn't be able to 471 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: be this voice. That's really your skill set to be 472 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: a connector and a hustler and go get people to 473 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 1: donate and make this thing known. So it's interesting how 474 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: people end up finding their true uh they're true not 475 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: they're true passion, the true calling. Yeah, that's wild. So 476 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 1: I did, and then I came back after that second year, 477 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 1: I was thirty. I was very broke by then because 478 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: I've given all my money to the organization and many 479 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: of the people that I've met there. And I was 480 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 1: crashing on a closet floor on Spring and Mercer on 481 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: a second floor loft department in in Soho, New York City, 482 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 1: for free, and just said, Hey, I'm gonna try to 483 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 1: bring clean and safe drinking water to everybody in the 484 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: world before I die. And the only idea I had 485 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: was charity Water, a charity that helps people get water. 486 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: So not very creative, but that was you know, that 487 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: was fifteen years ago. And and and you've dedicated your 488 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: life to this, uh fifteen years. Yeah, we've raised now 489 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 1: over you know, seven hundred million dollars and and helped 490 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: fifteen million people get water across twenty nine countries. Are 491 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 1: you and how is that? What's the vessel of the water? Yeah? 492 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: We we found now fourteen different technologies, from you know, 493 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: a ten thousand dollar well to a sixty five dollar 494 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: you know, personal bios sand filter for a family, to 495 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 1: rainwater harvesting systems to these huge you know, multimillion dollars 496 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: solar gravity fed systems all across you know countries. Um, okay, 497 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: So uh, now do you travel constantly? Yeah? I mean, gosh, 498 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: I've been to seventy countries now I've been to Ethiopia 499 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: thirty one times, so over the last fifteen years. You know, 500 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: there's a lot of a lot of a lot of 501 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: miles back and forth, um to to the places where 502 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: we work. But you know you might find this interesting, 503 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: just like kind of going back to day one of 504 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 1: charity water. The first thing I did, because I didn't 505 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: have any other ideas, was just to throw a party 506 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: in a nightclub. So our first fundraiser was in the 507 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: meatpacking district a place called ten June before the club 508 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 1: had ever opened. Yeah, it hadn't opened yet. And and 509 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 1: you know, Eugene and Mark gave it to me for free. 510 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: And uh we got a bunch of great people to 511 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 1: host the event, and I just charged everyone twenty dollars 512 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 1: to get in as a as a donation. And that 513 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 1: night we raised fifteen thousand dollar. It was my thirty 514 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: first birthday. Uh, and we immediately took of the fifteen 515 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: thousand dollars to Uganda. We did our first well we 516 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: fixed a couple of others, and then we sent the 517 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 1: photo proof, video proof and the GPS satellite images back 518 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: to the seven hundred people that attended and we said, 519 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: you came, you gave twenty dollars, and here's exactly where 520 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: your money went and what it did. And that was 521 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: that was not happening at scale and a lot of 522 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: the big charities. And you know, my my kind of 523 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: big idea. When I started charity Water, I had come 524 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: across the statistic that of Americans don't trust charities. And 525 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: more recently, uh N Yu Wagner did a study found 526 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: seventy people believe charities waste their money. It's like you 527 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: had one job, right, Like you know, seven out of 528 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: ten donors think that a charity is going to waste 529 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: their money in some parts. So you know, from from 530 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: day one, fifteen years ago, we separate rated the overhead 531 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: from the water project costs. So we have run with 532 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: two separately audited bank accounts for fifteen years. And not 533 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: only do we give a percent of all donation now 534 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: for fifteen years to the field, we pay back credit 535 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: card fees, which sounded to look a good idea when 536 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: we're small and now costs, you know, three quarters of 537 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: a million dollars. Number one. The transparency is the key 538 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: the whole time. Like someone sends money to some celebrity 539 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: who posts some link because there's a koala that's been 540 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: burned in a fire, and then they never have any 541 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: idea where I went. Like and if you constantly communicate 542 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: and say okay, and your needs change. Sometimes you say, okay, 543 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: this is what we need. We need money because we're 544 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: doing a hundred thousand crisis kits for this and this 545 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: is what they're gonna include. Then you get there and 546 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: people don't need a blanket and they don't need this 547 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: entire and then you say, okay, guess what we're finding 548 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: that refugee relocation. That's what people and that or or 549 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: if you donate, you're gonna be donating and this is 550 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: going to the habbad, this is going to churches, this 551 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: is going to children's schools, like you kind of you know, 552 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: let people know that they're part of it, and you 553 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: give them updates and that I couldn't agree with you more. 554 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: And the same thing A hundred percent goes um to 555 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: the effort because I'm an initiative, and so everything that 556 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: comes into be strong goes, I pay my own way, 557 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: my own travel anything, um. And then my partner has 558 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: like a two and a half percent UH overhead, which 559 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: is insane. It's like so low because he's super lean 560 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: and we partner with volunteers, et cetera. But that's that 561 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: goes in the overhead fund. Like if you donate to 562 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: be strong, that's it. So I we think very similarly, 563 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: and it's it solves a problem because people, you know, 564 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: I've had the big organs come to me and say, 565 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: send celebrities to me and say we can't do anything 566 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: with them. They want to spend thirty dollars on a 567 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: plane to go help in Puerto Rico, and we don't 568 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: do that. And they say, we don't do this a 569 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: lot because they're big ocean liners and they take a 570 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: long time to get their ship together and it's always 571 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: like one lane that they're in that they do this 572 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: one thing. They can't like pivot and be nimble and 573 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: figure out customized to what's going on right there. I'm 574 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: sure you've seen every country has some different thing that 575 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: you didn't think about and some different struggle to overcome. 576 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: That's not it's like a new business. Every time. Sure, sure, sure, yeah, 577 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: well that that has been absolute kind of key to 578 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: our success is trying to restore trust. You know, there's 579 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: so many people skeptical and disenchanted. It sounds like you're 580 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: doing this really well also, and then just closing loop 581 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: proving to people what the money has done. So we 582 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: love you just said closing in the loop exactly. They 583 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: feel like they're part of a crusade. Yeah, and you 584 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: know we've got um now oh gosh, over fifty thousand 585 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: water projects up on Google Earth on our website. Every 586 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: single water project comes with a GPS cort at the 587 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: satellite image, the information of the village. Uh. You know, 588 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: so this we just believe like transparency is kind of 589 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: the way to win, and and that has helped us, now, 590 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: you know, help over a fifteen million people get access 591 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: to water. I think without that model, we would have 592 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: done far, far less, and the movement would be would 593 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: be so much smaller. And you are the visionary of it. 594 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: You are the strategist. It's your mission. You decide where 595 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: you're going to do this, how it's gonna work. You 596 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: we have a whole team now, Bethany. I mean, it's 597 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: you know, much much smarter people than than me. Water 598 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,239 Speaker 1: experts with you know, decades of experience who are out 599 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: there managing you know, sixteen hundred UM. You know, local 600 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 1: staff working for forty nine partner organizations. So there's a 601 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: whole kind of machine. Now how many people work not 602 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 1: at not within those like just about a hundred at 603 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: h Q at charity Water HQ. It's been in New 604 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 1: York City, but now now people have distributed. UM. So 605 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: we're our our team is across twenty seven states. We 606 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: actually just got everybody together last week for for an 607 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: organization meeting, which was great. So so so do you 608 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: have like a board and they pay all the overhead 609 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: so it's separate. Did you do like raise money just 610 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: for overhead? It's on the board, it's not the board. 611 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: We have a community called a well uh and there 612 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: are a hundred and twenty nine families from all over 613 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: the world and they give they started a hundred thousand 614 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: dollars a year towards the overhead side. And we have 615 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: some families giving in a million a year. So that 616 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: pays for every single toner you know, package for the 617 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: EPSOM copier, every flight, every credit card fee, every salary. UM. 618 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: You know, every insurance costs or phone bill and they've 619 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: been doing that for fifteen years. Yeah, it's something I 620 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: should think about. I mean it's not been a problem 621 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: at all because my partner always gets donations which go 622 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: to the overhead UM in the warehouse and everything. But 623 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: it's something to think about because they have so many billionaires. 624 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: Every time something goes on, they want to donate and 625 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: they get involved because they know me and I'm a 626 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: business person. UM. But to make it more UM, you know, 627 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: just something that is consistent, like you have certain people 628 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: that are sort of almost like subscribers and they're just 629 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: paying all year long, so you're always know you're good 630 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: to go. UM. So how much money does it take 631 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: for the overhead a year? Like how much you have 632 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: to bring in every year? This year's budget budget UM 633 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: is a hundred and twenty eight million dollars in total, 634 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: and the overhead will be twenty two maybe, so we 635 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 1: run it about every year. So eight percent of the 636 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: money goes to the programs, even though we have two 637 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: completely separate accounts. So HUD twenty nine families paying for 638 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: the twenty cents on the dollar and then a million 639 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: donors getting this pure way to give where all of 640 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 1: it goes to the field. So are you're married. I 641 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: am married. Yes, I married my second employee. That's a 642 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: whole another story. Oh so you have this life of 643 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: philanthropy together. Yep. We worked together for a decade and 644 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 1: then started having kids and she took a break from 645 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: charity water and she now coaches nonprofits on how to 646 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,359 Speaker 1: market and fundraise and UH and try to scale and 647 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: and get noticed based on a decade of experience. It's amazing. 648 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: And we've got a five and a half year old 649 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: in a seven year seven and a half year old. 650 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: Oh nice, and you're they're all happy in Nashville. Yeah. 651 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,439 Speaker 1: We we moved to a farm during COVID in Pennsylvania, 652 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: a couple of hours outside of New York City. And 653 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: we've been down in the South now for for six months. 654 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: And you know, I'm I'm assistant coaching baseball and it's 655 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 1: been it's been, it's been a lot of fun. I'm 656 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: in New York City tomorrow. I mean, I'm I'm still 657 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 1: incredibly connected to know our community in Manhattan, and you 658 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 1: kept I'm there all the time. Now, we didn't, we didn't. 659 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: We were just renting. No gosh, we couldn't even a 660 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 1: dream of affording to to do that, nor could we 661 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,800 Speaker 1: ever afford to buy you know, in New York City. 662 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,879 Speaker 1: Um So, what's next? Like, what where is the big 663 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 1: problem right now? Where are you know? I'm aware of 664 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: this issue because only when it comes up when I'm 665 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 1: doing relief work in Puerto Rico and we see that 666 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,320 Speaker 1: they have no clean water, and then people are sending 667 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,360 Speaker 1: water purifications systems in I've seen it in the Bahamas, 668 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 1: but I only see it during like a disaster. Um 669 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: So do you do that too, or you're really just 670 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,800 Speaker 1: about permanent infrastructure in places that never had clean water. 671 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 1: We've done a little bit of disaster response, but only 672 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: in the countries where we have a long history or 673 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,439 Speaker 1: a footprint. So you know, when Flint happened, when Puerto 674 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 1: Rico happened, we sent our donors to other organizations who 675 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: actually had been there. You know. Nobody needed a New 676 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: York City based like you know, or with no experience 677 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: trying to parachute into Michigan and grab donor dours. So 678 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 1: typically when there's a disaster, we're we're you know, blogging 679 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,840 Speaker 1: about it or offering kind of a recommended list of 680 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 1: partners that we have relationships with, and then you know, 681 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 1: when the Nepal earthquake happened, We've been there for more 682 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: than a decade, so we really leaned into relief efforts there. Uh, 683 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,359 Speaker 1: the same thing in Ethiopia with a crisis fund and 684 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 1: the Haiti earthquake. Um, so we've we've done some stuff, 685 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:49,959 Speaker 1: but we need to be in a country and really 686 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: have those relationships. You know, I think what's what's next? Like, so, okay, 687 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: there's seven seventy one million people without water, that's one 688 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: out of ten people alive. We've helped fifteen million. That's 689 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 1: one of the work that needs to be done. Does 690 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: that make you feel like positive or defeated? Because I 691 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: know that Sometimes it feels like the situation in Ukraine 692 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 1: feels like oh like hissing in the ocean. It feels 693 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 1: like what's the point. It's like sad. It makes me 694 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 1: feel like we're in the second inning, like the best 695 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,760 Speaker 1: better yet be ahead? Right now? When I get really depressed, 696 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 1: I Philip Madison Square Garden with fifteen million people and 697 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 1: it's seven fifty sold out Madison Square Gardens, So you know, 698 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 1: imagine seeing Billy Joel seven nights in a row, right, 699 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 1: like at the garden. So it's a lot of people. 700 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 1: You know, it's more than you know, all the people 701 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:41,800 Speaker 1: that live in New York and all the boroughs it 702 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 1: states full of people. It's small countries full of people. Um, 703 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 1: but it's a fraction of what is needed and the 704 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 1: urgency of the seven million people who did not choose 705 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: to be born in the tem per cent of the 706 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,320 Speaker 1: world anymore that I chose to be born in Philly 707 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: in a middle class family where I always have water. 708 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,319 Speaker 1: You know, there is a we have now built the 709 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:08,760 Speaker 1: capability over fifteen years. We have a responsibility to go faster, 710 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 1: to grow the movement, to raise more money, to invite 711 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: more people to join us, and you know, fight for 712 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,879 Speaker 1: a world where everybody has clean water to drink. It's 713 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: like such a basic it's literally a basic neatu. Everyone 714 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 1: thinks this is a good idea, Like whether you're a 715 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 1: Republican or a Democratic or independent, if you're a person 716 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,919 Speaker 1: of faith, if you're not, you know, regardless of where 717 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,400 Speaker 1: you stand on you know, contentious social issues, like everybody 718 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 1: can stand for water. Yeah, I agree, it's the most 719 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 1: Like it's an inarguable common good. So that's allowed us 720 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,240 Speaker 1: to build, you know, a base of now a million 721 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 1: supporters from a hundred fifty countries. But it's a fraction 722 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,360 Speaker 1: of what's needed. So the thing I'm probably most excited 723 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 1: about is I was with um Uh, the founder of 724 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: of a huge subscription business in Ethiopia, you know, a 725 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 1: few years ago, and you know, he basically said, you know, 726 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 1: why do you start over every January one? You know, 727 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 1: we were only getting one time donations. He said, why 728 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 1: don't you build a community of people who give every 729 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,439 Speaker 1: single month? Right, We've got Spotify, we've got Netflix, we've 730 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 1: got Dropbox, we've got Disney Plus, we've got Khulu. So 731 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 1: a few years ago Charity Water launched a monthly giving 732 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 1: community called the Spring, and it helped triple the impact 733 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 1: of the organization. People just giving thirty or forty bucks 734 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 1: a months, Yeah, they don't even remember. Why isn't the 735 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 1: gut Why aren't these individual governments that governments has no money? 736 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 1: Why aren't governments giving you something? They are the governments 737 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 1: have a fraction of the money at their disposal. I mean, 738 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 1: Charity Water can put in a single year what the 739 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,360 Speaker 1: entire water government budget of a small country in Africa 740 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 1: is you know, it's uh. I mean there's you know, 741 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 1: in many of these countries where we work, the people 742 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 1: are shareholder farmers. They're not being intact right, so the 743 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,800 Speaker 1: government is taking a limited budget and trying to develop 744 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 1: roads and health care systems and schools and electricity and 745 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 1: and water. Right, so you know, we're we're seeing you know, 746 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 1: maybe we're always advocating for an over investment in water. 747 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,240 Speaker 1: You know, we think sometimes other stuff gets done instead 748 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 1: of what I'm listening to you. I'd rather have clean 749 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 1: water than than know anything. If I had to choose 750 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 1: to be to go to school or to have clean water, 751 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 1: I'd rather have clean water. Yeah, so we we are, 752 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 1: I mean outside of the despotic governments or regimes, and 753 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 1: there are a few of those around the world, you know, 754 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 1: we see governments really want everybody to have clean water. 755 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's embarrassing to you know, to go 756 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,320 Speaker 1: to the U n and and have half your country drinking. 757 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 1: So so we don't find that our our work is 758 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 1: met with resistance. It's it's really met with partnership. Let's 759 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 1: help get more drilling rinks in the country. Let's use 760 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 1: the government funding to match cherry water money. You know, 761 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 1: we have a long long standing partnership with Rwanda where 762 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 1: every dollar we put into water in Rwanda, the district 763 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:10,319 Speaker 1: and federal government come up with cents each, so we 764 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 1: get basically a ninety cents on the dollar match. So 765 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 1: we're able to do almost double the work. As the 766 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 1: government says, we don't have a huge budget, but we 767 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,960 Speaker 1: wanted to go farther and we wanted to intract outside 768 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 1: humanitarian investment in a sustainable way. How much money would 769 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:28,240 Speaker 1: it take to get the seven seven seven, seven hundred 770 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 1: and seventy one million people clean water. We think it's 771 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 1: about a hundred thirty five billion, so you know, percent 772 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 1: of of one of the trillion dollar stimulus is right. Yeah, 773 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 1: And you've talked to all these big billionaires that have 774 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 1: all their own charities and they've donated. They haven't you know, Bethany, 775 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 1: I'm always open for ideas. So we we have started. 776 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 1: You know, look, I mean, we've got very very generous 777 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 1: people who have given, you know, seven eight figure gifts. 778 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,959 Speaker 1: But what I'm really most excited about is I was saying, 779 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 1: is is the spring? Is this community of people that 780 00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,279 Speaker 1: are showing up thirty forty fifty dollars a month, ten 781 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,880 Speaker 1: dollars a month now across a d countries. That is 782 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 1: adding up to more than the billionaire's investments, right, a 783 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,840 Speaker 1: whole ground swell of people. So that's what I'm focused 784 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,440 Speaker 1: on a lot um and you can keep increasing that 785 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 1: because people will see more return on their resus. You know, 786 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 1: the average person listening probably has somewhere between ten and 787 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,759 Speaker 1: fifteen subscriptions. And you know, we wanted to create a 788 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:30,240 Speaker 1: dynamic uh community where instead of getting music or movies 789 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 1: or magazines, you know, or content of what people give 790 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 1: every month goes directly to provide water and the most 791 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,959 Speaker 1: basic need for humans. And then we are reporting back 792 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,799 Speaker 1: with stories of impact and and trying to make people 793 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 1: feel really connected to you know, almost win every dollar 794 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,840 Speaker 1: every month. You know, we have a sense of stewardship. 795 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,280 Speaker 1: So if the old charity water model, the old charity 796 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 1: model was like set it and forget it, right, getting 797 00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 1: donors signed up into your monthly community and then just 798 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,320 Speaker 1: hope they get about it, we're actually doing the opposite. 799 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 1: We're trying to engage them. We're trying to prove where 800 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 1: the money is going and and and create a dynamic 801 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,319 Speaker 1: community Yeah, what if you could get one of these 802 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 1: subscription uh streamers to add a dollar to somebody's monthly 803 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 1: um for this cause or I mean, you know, or 804 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,840 Speaker 1: airlines at a dollar around every airfare just is added 805 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 1: for clean water in the countries that they fly to 806 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,920 Speaker 1: or things like that. If anyone's listening and uh and 807 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,880 Speaker 1: and is in the airline business or a streamer, we 808 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 1: we we we'd love to work with people. We have 809 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,720 Speaker 1: a great brand partnership's team and um, you know there's 810 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,359 Speaker 1: there's a great video Bethany that's gotten like seven year 811 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 1: eighty million views now it's actually called the Spring and 812 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,640 Speaker 1: people could just go to the Spring dot com. That's 813 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 1: even a way to help is just watch the video, 814 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,400 Speaker 1: learn a little more about the issue, and then share it. Okay, 815 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 1: so last question is uh, your rows of your career 816 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 1: and your thorn. I think the rose of the career 817 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:58,239 Speaker 1: is just reaching the fifteen million person milestone in our 818 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 1: fifteenth year. Uh. Um that you know, it felt like 819 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,760 Speaker 1: a moment in time, you know where Okay, we've done something, 820 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,400 Speaker 1: we built an organization. You know, I can imagine getting 821 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 1: to a hundred million people with water now with fifteen 822 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:18,719 Speaker 1: million behind us, I think the thorn I started too late. 823 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 1: You know, I started this at thirty. I wasted a 824 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,879 Speaker 1: decade and and you know, I also believe nothing is wasted. UM. 825 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,880 Speaker 1: And I was able to, you know, take some of 826 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 1: the things that I learned. I guess running around promoting 827 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:38,879 Speaker 1: night a skill set. But you know it also, yes, UM, 828 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,759 Speaker 1: it also feels like I just wasted ten years selfishly 829 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,959 Speaker 1: and I had nothing to show for that decade. And 830 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,080 Speaker 1: I wish I had gotten started earlier and there'd be 831 00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,319 Speaker 1: more people with water well. And also I guess there's 832 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,280 Speaker 1: a message for people listening that. Um. I think people 833 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,840 Speaker 1: think they can't get involved because it really seems intangible. 834 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 1: It's not that just like business, it's not that easy 835 00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 1: to get into philanthropy and a mean full way. You 836 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 1: could donate money, you could put a link I say 837 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:07,480 Speaker 1: to people, the communication and and and literally without people 838 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,440 Speaker 1: on social media, my followers, I wouldn't have done the 839 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,680 Speaker 1: Probably now it's going to be over four hundred million 840 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:16,800 Speaker 1: dollars of relief that we've done in the last several years. Uh, 841 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 1: And it's because of them. But I do think that 842 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 1: it's helpful for people to listen to your story because 843 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,400 Speaker 1: people do want an entry point, they want to do something. 844 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,279 Speaker 1: It's so funny because you know a lot of my 845 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,760 Speaker 1: friends say to me, we have we're boxing up clothes 846 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 1: and can we drop them off? And I'm thinking we're 847 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:36,040 Speaker 1: sending you know, hundreds of thousands of pounds from major 848 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:40,880 Speaker 1: companies like levies that call Angoya and Bumblebee. So they 849 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,800 Speaker 1: can't enter because I can't take a box of clothes. 850 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:44,440 Speaker 1: It's not evenna be helpful to me, It'll be it 851 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 1: would just be more work for my team and someone else. 852 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 1: Can my kids come over and help you box up? 853 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 1: And I'm I'm like, we have a warehouse in Miami 854 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:52,520 Speaker 1: if you want to fly them down to Miami and 855 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,640 Speaker 1: they can put things in boxes. But for people to 856 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,920 Speaker 1: have a real impact and do something meaningful, it's not 857 00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,839 Speaker 1: as easy. That's why you had to call all these 858 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,919 Speaker 1: different places to just get a job for free, being 859 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,760 Speaker 1: a volunteer. So if you have any advice for people 860 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,040 Speaker 1: listening to have some sort of an impact and to 861 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,399 Speaker 1: find their way in um, I wonder what that would be. Yeah, 862 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it starts with just the break 863 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,480 Speaker 1: from apathy and getting involved in stuff and and you know, 864 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:21,839 Speaker 1: figuring out what you're passionate about. Uh, maybe it's you know, 865 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 1: women and girls around the world. Maybe it's a justice issue. 866 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,560 Speaker 1: Maybe it's hunger, maybe it is water, um, maybe it 867 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,960 Speaker 1: is you know, reaching people who have been affected by 868 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:34,160 Speaker 1: disasters in a really timely way. I think, then try 869 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,920 Speaker 1: to go a little deeper maybe to understand that issue, 870 00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:42,879 Speaker 1: you know, move beyond a donor to you know, get 871 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,279 Speaker 1: some domain expertise in that so you can become you 872 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,160 Speaker 1: can become an ambassador, you can become an advocate, you 873 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 1: can actually know what you're talking about, and then bring 874 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,719 Speaker 1: others into that cause you know, I mean there's so 875 00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 1: much needless suffering in the world, Bethany. I mean, we 876 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,799 Speaker 1: look around and there's so much capital, there's so much 877 00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:06,279 Speaker 1: inert capital, and and you know, I think it's our 878 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:10,320 Speaker 1: job as social entrepreneurs or those leading movements or causes 879 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:14,440 Speaker 1: to really make compelling cases for people to be generous, 880 00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,839 Speaker 1: to use their time, to use their talent, to use 881 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:21,040 Speaker 1: their money in the service of others. And you know, 882 00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,920 Speaker 1: there's there's only two two games in town, love and service. 883 00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,680 Speaker 1: Selfishness does not end well. You know, someone will always 884 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,719 Speaker 1: have more money, they will always have a better car, 885 00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:34,239 Speaker 1: Someone's gonna have a better house, you know, a more 886 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:39,240 Speaker 1: famous partner. And you know, I think that it's really 887 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 1: that the shift, the paradigm shift in perspective to say, 888 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,440 Speaker 1: you know, how can I be useful? How can I 889 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:50,160 Speaker 1: give what I've been blessed with to others? And the 890 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,640 Speaker 1: more you do that, you know, the more you give, 891 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,719 Speaker 1: the more you give. Right, It's like the more you 892 00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,799 Speaker 1: get engaged in things, the more you want to be 893 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,520 Speaker 1: engaged things. It's like the more you consume, the more 894 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,560 Speaker 1: you consume, and that just leads to a very different place. 895 00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,200 Speaker 1: You know, we we've all been with people that have 896 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,360 Speaker 1: thirty cars, Like you know what, you know, it started 897 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 1: with one, right, and then I need another one, and 898 00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:12,279 Speaker 1: then I need a third, and like, you know, you're 899 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:16,200 Speaker 1: not driving thirty cars. But we also know people you know, 900 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,960 Speaker 1: who are are you know, giving and giving and giving 901 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,279 Speaker 1: and dynamically giving of their time and the town and 902 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,320 Speaker 1: their money. And and I think I would just encourage 903 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,520 Speaker 1: people to find the joy and the freedom that comes 904 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:31,480 Speaker 1: with service and you know, loving your neighbor as yourself. 905 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,520 Speaker 1: I mean, charity is actually a beautiful word. It just 906 00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 1: means love. It just means love. It means to help 907 00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,879 Speaker 1: others in need getting nothing in return. But a lot 908 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:44,879 Speaker 1: of business people listen and um, I do think it 909 00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,600 Speaker 1: feels for people to you said, learn something, be educated 910 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,839 Speaker 1: on something, and know about it. I do think that 911 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:54,279 Speaker 1: every time you do something different to help people, it's 912 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,799 Speaker 1: like business because you have to you don't know what 913 00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 1: the language you're talking about, you don't know, you don't 914 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,720 Speaker 1: know what ppe masks are, and then you become totally 915 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,320 Speaker 1: fluent in that language is. You have to learn, you 916 00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,560 Speaker 1: dig an education in it. So for people who are 917 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,480 Speaker 1: business minded, I don't think most people make that connection 918 00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,560 Speaker 1: between business and philanthropy, but if you have that sort 919 00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:15,480 Speaker 1: of entrepreneurial uh spark, it can be used for something 920 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,360 Speaker 1: so positive. I just do think that there is a 921 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,200 Speaker 1: total you kind of just like wait, I don't know 922 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:20,680 Speaker 1: about that. How do I get my way in? How 923 00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:22,480 Speaker 1: do I figure out? How do I foot in the door? 924 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,600 Speaker 1: Just go show up there, figure it out, you know 925 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:25,959 Speaker 1: what I mean. Just get on the road. You gotta 926 00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:27,160 Speaker 1: get on the road. You can't be stuck in the 927 00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,840 Speaker 1: business plan. That's how I feel. And listen everybody's you know, 928 00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:33,840 Speaker 1: I know you've raised so much, you have such a compassionate, engaged, 929 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:35,480 Speaker 1: you know a group of people. So I just wanna 930 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:39,560 Speaker 1: you know, uh, thank you and thank your community for 931 00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:43,040 Speaker 1: all the good that that that they've been supporting around 932 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,080 Speaker 1: the world. Well, they can support you to what's your 933 00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,080 Speaker 1: how do they donate the Spring dot com or charity 934 00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,600 Speaker 1: water dot work? The Spring dot com or charity water 935 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,439 Speaker 1: do we'd we'd love for people to learn more about 936 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,560 Speaker 1: our work. Let me know, all right, guys, let's donate. 937 00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,880 Speaker 1: Let me know when this airs if you saw that 938 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,080 Speaker 1: anybody donated, I'll be very proud of my audience because 939 00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,799 Speaker 1: I am amazing, engaged and awesome people. Amazing. Thank you 940 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:05,759 Speaker 1: so much, have a wonderful day. I was great talking 941 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:09,719 Speaker 1: to you. I appreciate thanks for having me on. So 942 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,680 Speaker 1: that was Scott Harrison. Had not heard of him, although 943 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,160 Speaker 1: we've crossed paths in New York. I'm sure very interesting 944 00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:19,560 Speaker 1: to dedicate your life to philanthropy after a life of debauchery. 945 00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,120 Speaker 1: I like that. Um, just it's inspiring for other people 946 00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:27,840 Speaker 1: who are feeling hopeless, useless, depressed, meaning what's the point? 947 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,040 Speaker 1: You know the way sometimes we all think like what 948 00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:31,960 Speaker 1: is the point of all this? And and you know, 949 00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,839 Speaker 1: seven hundred seventy one million people not having clean water 950 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,279 Speaker 1: is extremely sad and frustrating. And think about such a 951 00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 1: basic native water like drinking swampy, green, disgusting, sludgy water. 952 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 1: That makes me, that literally makes me want to cry. 953 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,040 Speaker 1: I mean, it just makes me sad because I've faced 954 00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,400 Speaker 1: that with people in Puerto Rico and the Bahamas. But 955 00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,879 Speaker 1: this is just another level that people have never had 956 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,360 Speaker 1: clean water, and they've maybe they've even had schools and 957 00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,399 Speaker 1: other things. But is there anything more important than clean water? 958 00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:00,680 Speaker 1: So I think that that's really an interesting cause. I 959 00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,400 Speaker 1: like it, UM. I would love to help UM. But 960 00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,600 Speaker 1: I know what that feels like, feeling UM, like you're 961 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:09,719 Speaker 1: not even scratching the surface. Because with what's going on 962 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:11,440 Speaker 1: in Ukraine, and if I think about the numbers of 963 00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,560 Speaker 1: people that we can take out that are refugees UM 964 00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,840 Speaker 1: and that we can help and relocate, it's a small 965 00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,040 Speaker 1: percentage of the whole, it's not even that small, but 966 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:22,560 Speaker 1: it's probably like maybe ten of the problem. But you know, 967 00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,120 Speaker 1: do your part, but really do your part, like, really 968 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,560 Speaker 1: get involved, figure it out, learn what you care about, 969 00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:31,000 Speaker 1: and and take the next step. Everybody wants to check 970 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,399 Speaker 1: the box so they could say they check the box. 971 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,560 Speaker 1: What about actually doing something really help somebody else and 972 00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,640 Speaker 1: feeling good about it. So I think that's a really 973 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,160 Speaker 1: um that's a good message for that one. And you 974 00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,239 Speaker 1: know that. Sometimes I have people on that you've heard 975 00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,000 Speaker 1: of that are famous, and sometimes I have people on 976 00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,000 Speaker 1: who have been pitched to me that just seems like 977 00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,399 Speaker 1: they have an interesting story. And certainly someone whose goal 978 00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,920 Speaker 1: in life is that everybody in the world will have 979 00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:54,200 Speaker 1: clean water, that seems like a pretty good guest to 980 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,279 Speaker 1: make UM and that it is. You know, it does 981 00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,400 Speaker 1: seem like it's treating it like business. You've got to 982 00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,120 Speaker 1: get things on. You have to be a person that 983 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,400 Speaker 1: isn't gonna get defeated, and we'll just tackle the problem. Uh. 984 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,040 Speaker 1: So many times it will feel like you're not making 985 00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:07,520 Speaker 1: a difference. But you've got to get on the road 986 00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:11,080 Speaker 1: and get involved in a real way or just keep 987 00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,440 Speaker 1: spreading the message. But I do think getting actually involved 988 00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:17,600 Speaker 1: is better. Just B is hosted by me Bethany Frankel 989 00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,440 Speaker 1: Just be as a production of Be Real Productions, I 990 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:24,200 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Blue Duck Media. Are EPs are Morgen Levois, 991 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,719 Speaker 1: Antonio Enriquez, and Kara Hit To catch more moments from 992 00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,040 Speaker 1: the show. Follow us on Instagram and just be with 993 00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:34,719 Speaker 1: Bethany