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Speaker 5: This show's really starting to come together. I mean, this

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Speaker 4: That's probably the only time in.

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Speaker 5: My life that I've said the Great State of New Jersey.

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Speaker 5: I love New Jersey people for sure. It's episode two

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Speaker 5: sixty two of the Anak and Florian Podcast. It's Monday,

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Speaker 5: August tenth, twenty twenty. Is the year I got a

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Speaker 5: little extra pep in my step Kent Flow.

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Speaker 4: It's a pay per view week, it's a fight week.

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Speaker 4: Let's fucking go.

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Speaker 6: Don't mess with Boston Sports and will get you, dude

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Speaker 6: when you head out to Vegas Thursday.

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Speaker 5: So we have fighter meetings over Zoom on Wednesday, which

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Speaker 5: buys me an extra twenty four hours with the family,

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Speaker 5: for better or for worse if you listen to the

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Speaker 5: show last week. But yeah, we head out Thursday, and

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Speaker 5: it's obviously a big one. Our guye DC, your longtime

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Speaker 5: television partner, trying to put a capstone on a mixed

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Speaker 5: martial arts career that will be in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 5: But I do not think it ends Saturday night. And

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Speaker 5: I don't say that because of my friendship with him.

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Speaker 5: I just think eventually he is gonna get called back

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Speaker 5: to the table. He's gonna sign on the dotted line again.

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Speaker 5: But we will build this as a retirement fight, at

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Speaker 5: least on the Cormier side, and I'm very excited to

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Speaker 6: Are you referring now to a John Jones possible fight

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Speaker 6: at heavyweight?

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Speaker 4: Is that the fight that that would bring him out?

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Speaker 5: Is that what you're saying or brock Lesner, or excuse me,

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Speaker 5: brock Lesner or a name that I'm not thinking of.

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Speaker 5: I just feel like there'll be a lot of zeros

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Speaker 5: on the paycheck, and it would inevitably be a name

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Speaker 5: that would entice the ultimate competitor to such an extent

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Speaker 5: that he couldn't say no. I do think at the

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Speaker 5: end of the day, and you're gonna hear a lot

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Speaker 5: of this out of my mouth this weekend. He just

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Speaker 5: likes to compete, and I think that poll is always

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Speaker 5: going to be there, and eventually he'll take the bait.

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Speaker 4: That's all. Listen.

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Speaker 6: It's tough for a lot of fighters to just say

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Speaker 6: they're going to retire and stay retired, especially when you're

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Speaker 6: in a position like DC, who has accomplished so much

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Speaker 6: uh and demands a lot of money, and you know,

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Speaker 6: the UFC is certainly willing to pay that money that

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Speaker 6: he deserves, and there's a lot of guys that would

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Speaker 6: love to fight DC. So yeah, it's gonna be hard

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Speaker 6: for him to say no to another fight after this,

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Speaker 6: But it doesn't get any bigger than this fight against

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Speaker 6: Steve Bavia Miacic, an appolent beast. There's obviously a very

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Speaker 6: strong argument that the winner of this fight will go

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Speaker 5: So a lot of the line, dude, I don't know

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Speaker 5: that there's a point where you could overstate how much

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Speaker 5: don't know. And again, who knows. There could be some

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Speaker 5: to add a fourth one here, it would be incredible.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if he has one foot out the

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Speaker 5: So I don't know how long Stepe is going to

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Speaker 4: I just think that he might fight again.

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Speaker 5: But we have a show to recap before we get

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Speaker 5: too much steeper into UFC two point fifty two. It

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Speaker 5: was Derek Lewis's nightcam flow on Saturday at the UFC Apex.

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Speaker 5: He gets the TKO win over Alexiolinic twenty one seconds

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Speaker 4: He was tested.

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Speaker 5: I would ask you to what degree by the submission

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Speaker 5: game of Alexiolytic early on, But uh, you had the

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Speaker 5: Black Beast by TKO and despite some potentially hairy moments,

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Speaker 5: the big man gets it done in a big way.

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Speaker 6: I appreciate that Derek Lewis wants to show that he's

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Speaker 4: Don't go to the ground with Alexiolytic. That's the one

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Speaker 5: Man, get out of there, let him stand up, knock

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Speaker 4: What are you doing?

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Speaker 6: I turned into Jerry Seinfeld for a little bit there,

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Speaker 6: but you know, in the end, it was Derek Lewis

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Speaker 6: getting it done. You know, he's one of those guys.

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Speaker 6: You look at him, you see the start of his fight.

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Speaker 6: He kind of, you know, talks slow a little bit.

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Speaker 6: He's got his little stick that he kind of jokes around,

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Speaker 6: but boy is he fast and he is a sneaky

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Speaker 6: good athlete, dude. He is as explosive as anyone out there.

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Speaker 6: Not many people are gonna make Francis Andngan, who hesitant

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Speaker 4: Derek Lewis was one of those guys.

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Speaker 6: He possesses that kind of speed, that kind of power,

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Speaker 6: and we saw that on display in that finish and

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Speaker 6: that tko of alexi Olenik. Some decisions were made that,

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Speaker 6: you know, definitely made me a little bit worried for

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Speaker 6: Derek Lewis. But man, if he hits you, if he

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Speaker 6: connects with one of those shots, you're done and he's

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Speaker 6: gonna fall through into the referee rips him off. That

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Speaker 5: And because this is your podcast, we oftentimes find ourselves

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Speaker 5: talking about the art of the ground strike and how

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Speaker 5: whether it's with elbows or just with pure accuracy and

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Speaker 5: power like you saw out of Derek Lewis. I enjoyed

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Speaker 5: this fight from a Derek Lewis standpoint so much that

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Speaker 5: I went back and watched his UFC debut against Jack

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Speaker 4: Guys out on the ground.

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Speaker 5: And now when you start to add wins, and sometimes

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Speaker 5: I get ahead of myself, as you well know. But

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Speaker 5: big picture, Kenny, fifteen UFC wins for Derek Lewis, who

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Speaker 5: made his UFC debut in twenty fourteen. Like Junior Do

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Speaker 5: Santos has fifteen UFC wins, but he was in the

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Speaker 5: UFC in two thousand and fucking eight. You know, I

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Speaker 5: mean this guy's eight win Shia Serroni for the all

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Speaker 5: just am impressed with twenty UFC fights in and fifteen

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Speaker 5: wins for Derek Lewis and got Alexiolenk to add to

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Speaker 4: It's all the.

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Speaker 6: More impressive when you consider that here's a heavyweight, not

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Speaker 6: and number two, the fact that he has been dealing

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Speaker 6: with a lot of injuries. You know, his back has

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Speaker 6: really bothered him throughout his career. So yeah, it's extremely

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Speaker 6: impressive what Derek Lewis has done. Awesome power getting a

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Speaker 6: win over Olnic who has been very dangerous and has spoiled.

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Speaker 4: A lot of parties out there.

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Speaker 6: And to get back to your other comment about how

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Speaker 6: close Olnic was to submitting Derek Lewis, I didn't think

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Speaker 4: There was maybe a couple seconds here.

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Speaker 6: And there on that head and arm, you know, Kessikatammi

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Speaker 6: that he had there, that seemed to be a little

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Speaker 6: bit close at time. But no, I think Olynic was

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Speaker 6: a little bit further away than he had hoped. Really

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Speaker 6: was trying to crank on that head of Derek Lewis,

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Speaker 6: trying to get that chin to the chest and try

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Speaker 6: to impede his breathing. I'm sure he did a little

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Speaker 6: bit of that, but I don't think Derek Lewis was

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Speaker 5: Well, he's a prize fighter and he is a richer

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Speaker 5: congratulate Derek Lewis, and you're right to bring up the

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Speaker 5: injuries in terms of the career narrative, though there was

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Speaker 5: that fight against Fabricio Overdoom where he fell out day

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Speaker 5: there have been injuries, but the balls have been hot

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Speaker 5: as well. You know, his testicles have overheated. If he's

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Speaker 5: the Black Beast gets it done. In the heavyweight main

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Speaker 5: was Chris Wyman over Omariak Medov, pretty clear unanimous decision

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Speaker 5: For Chris Wiman, and I think here on a Monday,

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Speaker 5: that's really all that matters on his side, and then.

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Speaker 4: That's all he wanted.

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Speaker 6: You know, it always makes me a little nervous when

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Speaker 6: I hear a guy who's been around the game for

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Speaker 6: in mixed martial arts, when they say I need to

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Speaker 6: you know, he's got, you know, the weight of the

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Speaker 4: That he's an elite fighter.

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Speaker 6: Again, that was a lot of pressure heading into that

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Speaker 6: but you could just sense that it wasn't your normal

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Speaker 4: He just didn't have that championship type.

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Speaker 6: Aura or feeling, and that has been gone for a

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Speaker 6: little bit, of course, but you at least want to

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Speaker 6: see a fighter who's moving confidently and I didn't quite

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Speaker 6: I think that had a lot to do with the

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Speaker 6: pressure he probably felt heading into that fight.

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Speaker 4: Amazing job by Ray Longo.

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Speaker 6: I can't wait to talk to him about what he

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Speaker 4: He doesn't like that, Your opponents don't like that.

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Speaker 5: You see a guy like Daryusch controlling Scott Holtzman in

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Speaker 5: Nothing quite like a Ray Longo minute after one of

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Speaker 4: It's nice to see you. Congrats on a win, my man. Man,

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Speaker 7: I mean it was the only thing I'm upset about. John,

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, I have a solution.

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Speaker 3: What is that to actually dro one?

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Speaker 4: And I think it would complete your whole.

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Speaker 6: Look, you'll never leave it at home, And I think

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Speaker 7: a w I mean before the fight, it was like, look,

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00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,720
Speaker 7: we're going back to what got you here. I want

441
00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,480
Speaker 7: you to try to blend the stand up in with

442
00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,040
Speaker 7: the wrestling as best you can, but let's go to

443
00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,080
Speaker 7: where you're strong. And you know, we knew even if

444
00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:37,919
Speaker 7: he didn't get him down, the other guy would have

445
00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,119
Speaker 7: to guess out also because that's that's a lot of

446
00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,600
Speaker 7: pressure defending against that guy, especially when he's relentless, so

447
00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:46,680
Speaker 7: you know, I was happy for a bunch of things.

448
00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,639
Speaker 3: And again, I think the pressure that was on him.

449
00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,000
Speaker 3: He is human. He needed that W.

450
00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,800
Speaker 7: We actually even went through it, like forget entertaining anybody,

451
00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:56,399
Speaker 7: you know, because sometimes that's where you go.

452
00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:57,560
Speaker 3: You want to do the right thing.

453
00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,840
Speaker 7: Everybody likes an end to you know, a knockout of

454
00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:02,159
Speaker 7: fuck that man, get the W.

455
00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:03,760
Speaker 3: It's one fight at a time.

456
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,919
Speaker 7: If you're gonna do this, you know, get serious, and

457
00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:08,400
Speaker 7: it's really one fight at a time.

458
00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,080
Speaker 3: I wouldn't even talk about titled anything.

459
00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,320
Speaker 7: Just to me, I want to grow if I'm gonna

460
00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,240
Speaker 7: do it again, let's just go one fight at a time.

461
00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,640
Speaker 3: And like get I'll let you talk.

462
00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,800
Speaker 7: But again, like in the gym, uh you know, I

463
00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,080
Speaker 7: don't see anything like you know what goes on in

464
00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:23,680
Speaker 7: the octagon.

465
00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,439
Speaker 3: He's still crushing people in the gym.

466
00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,520
Speaker 7: He's still super talented, and I'm hoping that the W

467
00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:33,960
Speaker 7: really gives him the confidence to uh you know, uh,

468
00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,600
Speaker 7: you know, move forward in a positive manner.

469
00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,960
Speaker 5: So in terms of the offensive wrestling, is that what

470
00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,479
Speaker 5: you're referencing, just the speed and the aggression and the talent.

471
00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,000
Speaker 5: You see it in droves in the gym and not

472
00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,600
Speaker 5: necessarily translating on fight night, like he used.

473
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 7: Well, look, he is getting older and he was healthy,

474
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,119
Speaker 7: so that was a good thing. But if you go

475
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,879
Speaker 7: back and look at a highlight reel at his takedown.

476
00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,760
Speaker 3: The kid is fucking phenomenal. He really is.

477
00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,439
Speaker 7: So you know, I'm saying it's it's, you know, probably

478
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,800
Speaker 7: a mental thing. And again, there was a lot of pressure,

479
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,520
Speaker 7: and you know, in fighting, you can't hesitate an eighth

480
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,200
Speaker 7: of a second. You know, you're either rule in or

481
00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 7: all out, you know what I mean. So sometimes if

482
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,440
Speaker 7: you know, mentally, if you're uncertain, and you know, he

483
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 7: was the champ, now he's building up. He had a

484
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,439
Speaker 7: lot of you know, a couple of losses. It's a

485
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,160
Speaker 7: lot man to deal with. So I really applaud him

486
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,600
Speaker 7: on that because that's a it's a tough position to

487
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,880
Speaker 7: be in. And again a winsor win. He dug down

488
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,920
Speaker 7: deep in that third round, was definitely even going into

489
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:37,919
Speaker 7: that and not only did he win the round, I

490
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,439
Speaker 7: think deservingly, so he got a ten eight round, So

491
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 7: you know, I'm happy for me. I could see, you know,

492
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:47,439
Speaker 7: he he knows he was a little off, so I

493
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 7: like his honesty and that and what he did in

494
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,160
Speaker 7: the US and.

495
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 3: We'll, uh, you know, we'll take it from there.

496
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 7: But I'm happy to see him get a W because

497
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,639
Speaker 7: I think mentally there was nothing better that could have

498
00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:58,320
Speaker 7: happened to him.

499
00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,879
Speaker 5: There's no denying the avalanche of pressure that was on

500
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,879
Speaker 5: Chris Wyman going in some time in South Carolina, the

501
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 5: Penning move, everything else. And you're right, it was a

502
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,680
Speaker 5: ten eight in round three, and so if you can't

503
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 5: get the finish, at least that is the lasting image

504
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,720
Speaker 5: that you leave with fans. Before we have Ken Flow

505
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,400
Speaker 5: chime in here, I just wanted to ask you what

506
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 5: it was like traveling to Las Vegas, being masked up

507
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 5: down the plane, working a corner for the first time

508
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,640
Speaker 5: in this climate and everything that sort of encompassed your

509
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 5: first fight week. You look pretty happy there, although I

510
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 5: couldn't see your great smile behind that mass.

511
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 7: Sure, no flight was great, and I flew first class,

512
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 7: so was I hadn't really had the.

513
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,159
Speaker 4: Bed, you know, to hold aared I'm belonging coach. I mean,

514
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 4: that's got to ask you that.

515
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 7: I'm gonna say, John, it was maybe twenty people on

516
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,119
Speaker 7: a pretty big plane, so the plane was empty, which

517
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 7: is crazy.

518
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 3: So I felt good.

519
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 7: I felt bad for Delta, but I felt good about

520
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 7: everything else, you know.

521
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 3: And I hats off to the UFC.

522
00:22:58,080 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 4: Man.

523
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 7: Not that I'm a big fan of being quarantine, but

524
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,119
Speaker 7: they did a great job. I mean they really you know,

525
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 7: they have that you know, where everybody stays, you know,

526
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 7: with the security, and you get tested, you.

527
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,439
Speaker 3: Have to quarantine for twenty four hours.

528
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 7: Then you're out for a little bit and you have

529
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 7: to go back in get tested again after the way in.

530
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,719
Speaker 3: And I think they you know, look, I'm not a doctor.

531
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,679
Speaker 7: I don't know if the tests, you know, how reliable

532
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,120
Speaker 7: anything is, but I'll tell you a lot, man, they're

533
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 7: making the effort. And again i'd rather be Roman free,

534
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. But from a safety standpoint,

535
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 7: I think they're doing the right thing. They definitely it

536
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 7: was no nonsense, you know what I mean. They definitely

537
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 7: very strict, even in the dressing rooms. And what I

538
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 7: liked about I told Chris, I like this actually better

539
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 7: because man's there's no family, there's no friends, there's no distraction,

540
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:53,120
Speaker 7: you know me Al Joe and Patrovitch very dedicated. There

541
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:57,400
Speaker 7: was no outside distractions at all. You change at the hotel,

542
00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 7: you get driven to the to the arena, you fight,

543
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,919
Speaker 7: You get the hell out of it. Yeah, they have

544
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 7: your bags waiting for you to do it. You don't

545
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 7: even go back to the dressing room. So as much

546
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 7: as I love hanging out in the green room and

547
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,199
Speaker 7: you know, seeing all the guys and the coaches and stuff,

548
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,159
Speaker 7: you know, that's stings. But you know, for a pure

549
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 7: fight standpoint, I thought it was very focused and dedicated.

550
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 7: And for me as a coach, I didn't know if

551
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 7: there was a crowd or not. I'll be honest with you.

552
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 7: That's a god's on this truth. And once that door closes,

553
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 7: it's normal. And I did coach on the show, so

554
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,919
Speaker 7: I guess it was similar. But for this fight, I

555
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 7: really didn't know who was there and I didn't give

556
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 7: a shit.

557
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:35,919
Speaker 4: I love it.

558
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 6: Hey, Ray, you know after that second round, Chris seemed

559
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,640
Speaker 6: exhausted mentally, physically, spiritually. What did you say to them

560
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 6: in between that second and third round to get him

561
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:48,400
Speaker 6: to turn things around again?

562
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 3: Uh? Well, look, I think you see it online.

563
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,199
Speaker 7: You know it's more of a motivational speech, but I

564
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 7: was I was kind of pissed man, and I just

565
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 7: really wanted to motivate them.

566
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 3: I had to become more of a cheerleader.

567
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 7: And it was really just you know, really what I think,

568
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 7: what you know was just suck it up, me and

569
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 7: you got five minutes, and let's man up and do

570
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 7: what I know you can do. You know, instead, I

571
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,959
Speaker 7: don't know, he had a good, you know, a decent

572
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 7: first round. I was confused why he was even tired.

573
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 7: But of course it was a wrestling based game plan

574
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:18,160
Speaker 7: and that's going.

575
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 3: To exhaust you. But that's what he does his whole life.

576
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 7: So I'd like to see that corrected moving forward to

577
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 7: where he could grind out that wrestling. And I think

578
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 7: he'd still be a problem because he is that good

579
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 7: with the wrestling and you.

580
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 3: Know, you look at you know. I was telling him, Look,

581
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 3: if you.

582
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 7: Take a guy down and he gets back up, there's

583
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 7: no frustration, no anxiety. Just do it again, you know,

584
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 7: be like a morob. Don't give a fuck if you

585
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 7: get up. Sometimes he picks you up, so he could

586
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,679
Speaker 7: fucking throw you down, right, you know, he really doesn't

587
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 7: give his shit.

588
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 3: And that's the mindset you need. You need that mindset,

589
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 3: be relentless.

590
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 7: Well what you do good honestly for me, I know

591
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 7: it didn't look at but I know the wide men,

592
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 7: I know what a piece to him up standing up to.

593
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 7: But I was I said, let's and it's a w

594
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 7: go back to where you're strong. And again, anybody that's

595
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 7: gonna defend you off you, they're gonna be so exhausted

596
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 7: from that. And it you know, and it will create

597
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 7: it. It should open up your striking anyway, if you chose

598
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 7: to do that. But this time we were really pretty

599
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 7: focused on just stay with what you're good at, which

600
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 7: is the grappling, and and that's that's what we did, man.

601
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 7: And I'm happy for him because again I think there's

602
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 7: a lot of psychological stuff that you know, is people

603
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 7: don't get the pressure of you know, being a champion

604
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 7: and going on and winning, you know, a losing street dude.

605
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 3: This is this is tough, man.

606
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 7: I mean, it's not for everybody, Kenn, you know what

607
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 7: I mean. Like, this is really really tough stuff. So

608
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 7: you know, for all the armchair coaches that sit out

609
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 7: there and you know, pontificate on you know, where I

610
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 7: think he could. I mean, it's fucking awful. It's it's

611
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 7: fucking horrible. This is high stakes man.

612
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 3: You know. Uh, I'm MARII the guy.

613
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 7: I'm not saying he's tech, but he's fucking he's tough.

614
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,479
Speaker 3: As a motherfucker. And white man dude couldn't get out

615
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 3: of the guy's mount, you know what I mean.

616
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 7: So Wideman did a great job in the third and

617
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 7: we're gonna just take it from there and then hopefully,

618
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 7: you know, keep building on it.

619
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 5: It's so interesting, Kenny to hear Ray talk about some

620
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 5: of the intricacies that go into the fighter transport.

621
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 4: Like flo imagine getting your hands wrapped.

622
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 5: However, many hours before the fight, right, Wyman shows up

623
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 5: at the Apex, hands are already rapped, correct, right.

624
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 7: No, No, you did get them wrapped when we got

625
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 7: to the year, but we had a change here so

626
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 7: all Odea was on. So he just goes there and

627
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 7: gets wrapped, warms up, and basically fights.

628
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 4: Incredible.

629
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 5: I think maybe it was Fight Island when Kamara Ousman

630
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 5: was showing up and Volkanovsky was showing up and we're

631
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 5: showing these arrival shots on broadcasts and the hands are

632
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 5: already wrapped. I know, I saw it with Davis and Figuretto.

633
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 5: All right, well, I'm happy for you. It's interesting too.

634
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 5: You mentioned the floor being slippery because they do spray

635
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 5: some sort of sanitizing agent after each fight, and I

636
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 5: don't know if that is the root of the problem,

637
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 5: but we have heard a lot of fighters talk about

638
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 5: a slippery floor. All right, seems like we lost Ken Flow.

639
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 5: Cody's gonna try to get him back. But Morob Dwallish

640
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 5: Willie is fighting on pay per view this weekend against

641
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 5: John Dodson. He's a minus one to eighty betting favorite.

642
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 5: Before I get your thoughts on DC and Stepe, your

643
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 5: thoughts on Morob in what looks to be a pretty

644
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 5: fascinating matchup. I don't think there's much of a secret

645
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 5: as to what Morob might be trying to do. But

646
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,360
Speaker 5: what do you think about this matchup with Johnny.

647
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 7: Dodson looking Dodson's tricky for anybody, man. I mean, he

648
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,719
Speaker 7: did knock Pdon down. There's a way to fight Dotson.

649
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 3: I think.

650
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 7: I think we have a great game plan. His sparring

651
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 7: part is phenomenal for this camp. Good his cardio as

652
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 7: usual as in place, and you know, as long as

653
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 7: he doesn't overextend himself and make a mistake, he should

654
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 7: have a good night.

655
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 3: But Dodson.

656
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 7: Man, you got to respect a guy, and he is tricky.

657
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 7: Uh And if you you, you know, you over commit

658
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 7: with Dotson, you could pay for it. So I think

659
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 7: it's a tricky fight. I think it's definitely the most

660
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 7: trickiest fight for uh, for that Morob's had. So I'm

661
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 7: excited to see how he does with that.

662
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 5: And I give credit to John Dodson for accepting this

663
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 5: matchup right. He's the higher ranked fighter. And again, I

664
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 5: don't think it's a long line of people who are

665
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 5: texting Sean Shelby asking to fight Morob Dwallas Willie, who

666
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 5: could be six and zero in the UFC. I know

667
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 5: that's yesterday's news, Ray, but it really is incredible. He

668
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 5: is the best four loss fighter on this UFC roster

669
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Speaker 5: when you look at his overall body of works.

670
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 3: So yeah, all controversial losses.

671
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Speaker 5: All right, Before we let you go, we happen to

672
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 5: have a heavyweight Championship trilogy fight happening on Saturday night.

673
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 5: You may have heard Daniel Cormier's slightest of favorites right

674
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 5: now against step A who I know you know a

675
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 5: little bit.

676
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 4: What do you think, man, what do you think is

677
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 4: at stake. What do you think is going to happen?

678
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 5: This feels like the Biggas heavyweight fight that I have

679
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 5: called by a pretty significant.

680
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 4: Margin, and DC is the favorite very slightly.

681
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Speaker 5: It's essentially pick him, but at least where I place

682
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 5: my bets right now? DC minus one fifteen steep A

683
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 5: minus one oh five.

684
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, first off, I love both guys.

685
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Speaker 7: That has to be, you know, said first because you know,

686
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Speaker 7: I really love both guys. But obviously I'm closer to

687
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 7: Steve ba Becers. He's at the gym, so look, they've

688
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 7: they're one in one. I think they both know how

689
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 7: to beat the other guy. So again, it's gonna come

690
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 7: down to, Uh, you know, d C's getting a little older.

691
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 7: Steve as a blue collar guy man, so you know

692
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 7: he's not he's not drifting all over the place. He

693
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 7: doesn't have to make weight. You know, it looks like

694
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 7: he's in great shape. Uh you know, he doesn't balloon

695
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 7: up to three hundred then come down. You know, the

696
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 7: guy's still working. He's that kind of guy, and he

697
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 7: had success with the body shots. If d C's not

698
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 7: in shape, if you know the way his weight went through,

699
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 7: But if he doesn't come in in tip top shape.

700
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 3: I think Steve A he's winning that fight. I think

701
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 3: he's winning either way.

702
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 7: I think I think, you know, again, DC's talking about

703
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 7: legacy step A, I think wants to put a he

704
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 7: wants to put an exclamation point on this too, And

705
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 7: I think step A really almost has more to prove.

706
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 7: You know, he's got a chip on his shoulder with everything,

707
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 7: so I think he's going to be a hard guy

708
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 7: to get rid of in this fight. And I'm gonna

709
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 7: pick Steve b. A.

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Speaker 5: You're making me more excited than I already was for

711
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 5: that fight, and I didn't think that was necessarily possible.

712
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 5: But I do think that on the Cormier side, a

713
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 5: lot of it does have to do with cardiovascular strength

714
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 5: and strength and conditioning and how he'll handle those championship

715
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 5: rounds if they get there, because I do believe skill

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00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 5: for skill that Cormier is the better fighter. All Right,

717
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 5: We're gonna let you get back to your Las Vegas afternoon.

718
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 5: It's three thirty eight Pacific time. I mean, what do

719
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 5: you got going on? You said, al Jo has been

720
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 5: like pouring vodka down your throat. What are you doing

721
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Speaker 5: the rest of the day.

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00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 7: First, if I'm staring at the fucking smoke detector. So

723
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 7: we keep me on the show.

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Speaker 3: Don't let me go.

725
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 5: Oh we got all, oh, John, we got all fucking

726
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 5: knife But uh, what have you been doing out there?

727
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 7: You have us see stirt Crazy with Jean Wilder where

728
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 7: they throw him in the hole and then they open

729
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 7: up the door. Kenny like three days and he goes, please, no,

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Speaker 7: one more day. They tried to let me out of quarantine.

731
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Speaker 7: I was like, I don't want to go out.

732
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you become institutionalized.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, become institutionalized.

734
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Speaker 7: But uh, now I know no wild Joe and Patrovitch

735
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Speaker 7: they smashed that bottle of vodka that didn't last maybe

736
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Speaker 7: an hour.

737
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Speaker 3: I went to pour a drink.

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Speaker 7: And it was like half a shot left a You know,

739
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Speaker 7: reminds me when I did this show with Drago and

740
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 7: Matt years ago. I was rooming with Drago and we

741
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 7: bought a bottle of vodka and he started making we

742
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Speaker 7: he had the form and grill. We were gonna eat healthy,

743
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Speaker 7: and he opens up the bottle of vaca. About twenty minutes,

744
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Speaker 7: goes by sea. He's smashing the forming grill and like

745
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 7: he broke the grill and I go let me get

746
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 7: this bottle away from him. I go over on the

747
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 7: bottle was empty. He went through that bottle in twenty minutes. Yeah,

748
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 7: the guy I couldn't even believe. I go let me

749
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Speaker 7: just get it away so he doesn't get it gone.

750
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 7: But he couldn't have been more than twenty minutes with

751
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Speaker 7: that bottle.

752
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 4: How about that?

753
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 5: I could put a fifth back pretty quickly in my

754
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 5: day at Gettysburg College there in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania. But uh,

755
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 5: hey man, I'm excited to see you. So I get

756
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 5: in on Thursday morning. I'll handle my quarantine or whatever else.

757
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 5: But uh, at some point, maybe we'll do a little

758
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 5: fist bump, maybe a little little man hug. We'll see

759
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 5: how it plays out. I'm excited for that interaction.

760
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Speaker 7: Godless, I'll tell you this, Cody's got some smile on him, John.

761
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 4: No, he really does.

762
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 5: Our viewers cannot see Cody Marrow right now, but we

763
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 5: can see him in all his glory.

764
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Speaker 4: Cody, can our viewers see your face right now? They can't.

765
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Speaker 8: Well, they might have to because we keep losing flow.

766
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Speaker 8: I mean I was younger. You know, it's attractive looking

767
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 8: man like flow.

768
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Speaker 3: So is that possible. He's got blue rise to me,

769
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 3: this guy. Those contact lenses, Oh are you cheating? Are

770
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 3: you cheating right now? Definitely not tinted.

771
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 8: Sometimes they get tinted, but they're always blue.

772
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Speaker 5: All right, Well, we'll we'll have to continue the Cody

773
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 5: Marrow Ray Longo bromance another time. But hey, man, I'm

774
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 5: happy you got that W because in staying out in

775
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 5: Las Vegas wouldn't have been the funnest a few days

776
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 5: for you.

777
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Speaker 4: If I'm being candid leading into the fight.

778
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Speaker 7: That's a really good point. That's really and I take

779
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 7: that ship.

780
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 4: I know you do you know?

781
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 7: So yeah, it was a feel good moment and I

782
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 7: just like to see this kid build on it. And

783
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 7: again I think we gotta We came up with a

784
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,240
Speaker 7: couple of good things and I like the way everything

785
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 7: was handled.

786
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 3: So uh, onward and upward.

787
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Speaker 5: I got something I know England cartel hat, Oh tip

788
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Speaker 5: to you in honor of the W Cody.

789
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Speaker 3: What was that?

790
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 4: Bro?

791
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 8: So we keep challenging Ray every week and he's going

792
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 8: to add to his kit and all the time. Last fight,

793
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 8: Morob had thirteen takedowns over under twelve takedowns for the

794
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 8: fight this weekend.

795
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 7: Oh Oh man, I Thinkon's a hard guy to hold down.

796
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 4: So Hard got a takedown too.

797
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Hard got a takedown, So I'm gonna have to

798
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:05,959
Speaker 3: go under.

799
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 7: But if he could fend this guy off twenty times

800
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 7: in a row, he's going to be gassed. All see better,

801
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 7: I mean he's getting old to toso. I will see

802
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,479
Speaker 7: how his gas tank holds up because the other guy,

803
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,919
Speaker 7: Like again I said it last week, a three round

804
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 7: fight is a disservice to this guy.

805
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 3: He needs five to twenty.

806
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 4: Right, right right?

807
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 5: All right, Well, go get your fucking mask, put in

808
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 5: a grub Hub order and we'll.

809
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 4: See it in a few days.

810
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 3: Take it easy, guys.

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Speaker 4: There he is.

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Speaker 5: Take you Ray long minute every week here on the

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Speaker 4: Can I even do that?

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Speaker 3: Cody?

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Speaker 5: all right, YOUFC two to fifty two beckons in like

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Speaker 5: five days, get to the Picks's.

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Speaker 4: The main event challenge and the time is most definitely

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Speaker 4: hi first fight.

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Speaker 3: How do you everything.

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Speaker 2: Possible to win the main event Challenge? With John Hennick

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Speaker 2: and Kenny Florian podcast.

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Speaker 5: All Right, it was ninety three to ninety for Team

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Speaker 5: Florian heading into UFC fight that Lewis versus Olynic, and

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00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 5: it is now four straight winning weeks for Team Florian.

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Speaker 5: Ken Flow takes the week six to four. The difference

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Speaker 5: his prediction on Derek Lewis by TKO. So it's now

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Speaker 5: ninety nine to ninety four Team Florian in command. As

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Speaker 5: we come up on a big one UFC two fifty

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Speaker 5: two Miatchiic versus Cormier three. As we welcome on the

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Speaker 5: duck Ian Parker. I, it's nice to see you today,

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Speaker 5: my friend.

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Speaker 4: The beard is looking good.

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Speaker 9: You know, I demanded on shrimming it before the show.

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Speaker 10: I feel like it's getting a little, uh, a little

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Speaker 10: too covid like, but I appreciate your love for it, so.

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Speaker 9: Maybe I'll keep it another week.

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Speaker 5: We'll say sometimes when you look in the mirror, it looks.

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Speaker 4: Different than it does on camera.

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Speaker 5: We got the duck sound effect for you today thanks

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Speaker 5: to Cody. Appreciate that that'll be here throughout the rest

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Speaker 5: of the history of the show as long as you

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Speaker 5: hold down this slot. I mean, we can joke about

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Speaker 5: the four straight losing weeks off the top, but let's

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Speaker 5: get a little bit serious, right Listen.

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Speaker 10: Round one with the Alexi Olinik looked like I had

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00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 10: it for a second, pretty good, But according to Derek Lewis,

877
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 10: that British bulldog choke just wasn't going to finish the fight.

878
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,240
Speaker 9: Yeah. Look, I took a shot with Olenick.

879
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 10: Round one kind of went how I thought it would

880
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 10: go if it got to the ground. I actually wanted

881
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 10: to ask Kenny here. I thought what Olenicck did was

882
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 10: very bizarre. With all the time he had on the

883
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 10: ground to go for a choke that you have to

884
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 10: put all your strength into to get it done.

885
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 9: He could have done.

886
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 10: He could do he could have t bagged Derek Lewis

887
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 10: and choked about that way if you wanted to.

888
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 4: All right, well, it's funny.

889
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 6: You make a great point because you're like, dude, he'll

890
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 6: let someone mount him to get into Ezekiel, but he

891
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 6: won't get.

892
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 4: The mount to use it Ezekiel. You're like, I don't,

893
00:38:58,520 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 4: but hey, Elenick has Is.

894
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 6: Here's a guy who's got forty eight submissions, So what

895
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 6: the hell do I know?

896
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 4: I don't have that many submissions.

897
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 6: But still, Derek Lewis was like kind of trying to

898
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 6: help you out in that first round.

899
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 4: It seemed.

900
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 10: I mean, look, I had fifty one submissions, but you know,

901
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 10: I just feel like you're in a position against a

902
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,479
Speaker 10: guy who I didn't know is the best blue belt

903
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 10: in Texas. Apparently that Derek Lewis claims that he is,

904
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 10: which is awesome, but come on, man, you're inside out

905
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:22,919
Speaker 10: in the guy.

906
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,959
Speaker 9: You're one of the best jiu jitsu guys in MMA

907
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 9: right now.

908
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 10: And he went for the bulldog choke not once, not twice,

909
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 10: but three different times. And you knew if he didn't

910
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 10: get in the first round that that energy level was

911
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 10: gonna drop. So I still don't. I don't regret that pick.

912
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 10: He almost had it. It is what it is.

913
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 4: It is what it is.

914
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 5: And as the captain of Team Anik, we were calling

915
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 5: on you for a big week here. It is a

916
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 5: pay per view event for the MMA leader. Five picks

917
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 5: coming up, the first of which will be the featured

918
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 5: prelaman ESPN and the lightweight division fight that came together quickly.

919
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 5: It is a pick eem minus one ten on both sides,

920
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 5: Jim Miller and Vince from Hell paschelle Ian Parker, whod he.

921
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 10: Have well after Jim Miller's performance last time?

922
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 9: I like him here.

923
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 10: I do think that Vince presents a little bit of

924
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 10: a problem with his power and a striking but I

925
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 10: don't think it's anything that Jim Miller hasn't seen before.

926
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 9: And I think the UFC finally gave Jim.

927
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 10: Miller a guy that I'm not sitting here going like, man,

928
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 10: they're really gonna do Jim Miller dirty like that. Jim's

929
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 10: gonna be smart here. He's not gonna brawl. I think

930
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 10: he's got the better technical boxing right jiu jitsu like

931
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 10: night and day. Though this fight's gonna get to the ground.

932
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 10: Jim Miller's gonna get this one by submission. I think

933
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 10: Vince is a very tough guy, has shown his stuff

934
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 10: throughout his career. I just think this is a very,

935
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 10: very winnable fight and an obvious path to victory for

936
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,479
Speaker 10: Jim Miller, and I'm not gonna screw that one up again.

937
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 10: I was very harsh on him last time against Rosewelt Roberts.

938
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 9: Not making that mistake again. Gimme me Jim Miller on

939
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 9: this one, all right.

940
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 5: Ian likes Jim Miller, and lime disease has nothing on

941
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 5: Jim Miller.

942
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 4: Can flow.

943
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,399
Speaker 5: Fifth fight in seventeen months now for mister Miller. Third

944
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 5: of twenty twenty. You heard Ian reference the big win.

945
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 5: It was a quick one over Rosie Roberts. On the

946
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,399
Speaker 5: other side, you have Vince Pachelle, who has won five six.

947
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 5: He's coming off a win over Roberts as well, but

948
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 5: that was all the way back in June of twenty nineteen.

949
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 5: If my research is accurate, Paschelle had hip surgery and

950
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 5: that forced him out of a November matchup with Alexander

951
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,919
Speaker 5: yakovleb the rapper slash fighter so Ken Flill.

952
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:14,919
Speaker 4: Here we go, tough lives.

953
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 5: Vince Paschelle returning from another extended layoff here against the

954
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 5: consummate veteran Jim Miller. How do you handicap Pachell's chances here?

955
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 6: You know, to keep things sweet and short. I think

956
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 6: for Pichell he's the guy with Les Miles. Jim Miller

957
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:30,800
Speaker 6: is a guy.

958
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 4: With a tremendous amount of experience.

959
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 6: Obviously, I do think he's a little bit better of

960
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 6: a submission artist. I think he's very good in the

961
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 6: clinch as well. They kind of have similar styles. I

962
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 6: just think Jim Miller has a better arsenal of submissions

963
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 6: and for that reason, I'm gonna go with Jim Miller here.

964
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 4: I do think it's gonna be a tough fight.

965
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 6: I wouldn't be surprised if this is a third round

966
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 6: decision for Miller.

967
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,720
Speaker 4: But let's go with the veteran Jim Miller.

968
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 5: All right, A couple guys there liking Jim Miller in

969
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 5: that minus won ten range. Now we get to the

970
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 5: Waight division. He got teams Sarah Longos, Morob Dwallish Willie

971
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 5: minus one to eighty, the favorite taking on the roster

972
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 5: Staple John Dodson, who comes back at plus one sixty.

973
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 5: So Marob's won four in a row since that zero

974
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 5: to two start to his UFC career. Dodson, on the

975
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 5: other side, Ian He's fought sixteen times in the UFC,

976
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 5: twice against DJ for the Flyway title. He's now almost

977
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 5: thirty six and trying to make a run at one

978
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 5: hundred and thirty five pounds. Your thoughts on Dodson here

979
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 5: as the dog against Morob.

980
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 10: I'm a little surprised the odds are where they are

981
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,280
Speaker 10: because of Dotson's win over.

982
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 9: Wood a few months back. This is an interesting fight.

983
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 9: This is exactly the type of guy that.

984
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 10: Morob needs to fight right now, and we really need

985
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 10: to see. Listen, we know Morob is a takedown machine

986
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 10: in the cardio machine.

987
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 9: Dodson's very sneaky.

988
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 10: He's one of those guys in the division that has

989
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 10: extremely powerful hands, and we've seen it. His takedown defense

990
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 10: I think has actually gotten worse over the years. He

991
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 10: relies on his you know, his tricks to kind of

992
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 10: get out of that. He doesn't sprawl like he used to.

993
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 10: He tries to jump out of the Morob is gonna

994
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 10: be the stronger guy. I think Cardio does win this fight.

995
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 10: I just hope Morob doesn't get too comfortable swing for

996
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 10: the fences to get into that double leg. I think

997
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 10: he's got to keep his hands up because Dodson has

998
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 10: the power. I thought this fight was gonna be more

999
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 10: like a minus one twenty five for Morob.

1000
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 4: Just basic wow.

1001
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 10: Competition that both guys fought. That's not a knock on Morob. Listen,

1002
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 10: I think Morob is.

1003
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 9: A future champ.

1004
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,760
Speaker 10: There's not too many guys with the cardio, with the takedowns.

1005
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 9: Listen.

1006
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 10: Shooting in on a guy and consistently taking guys down

1007
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 10: like that. Kenny will tell you in the energy that

1008
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 10: you use is everything. It's insane, it could drain you.

1009
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 10: He doesn't show it. I think this is his time

1010
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 10: to really shine.

1011
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:36,720
Speaker 9: Dotson.

1012
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 10: I hate to call him a gatekeeper, but in this

1013
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 10: type of fight, that's what it looks like. I'm gonna

1014
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 10: go Morob here, I just Dotson.

1015
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:45,879
Speaker 9: It could be a sneaky play, but I'm gonna still

1016
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 9: go with Morob.

1017
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 5: Can flow Dotson, Twalish, Willie, you got number fifteen favor

1018
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 5: to beat number twelve?

1019
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 4: Who do you have? I know exactly what he's talking about. Listen.

1020
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 6: I think John Dotson could be an interesting underdog. Bet

1021
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 6: I do think he's faced a lot of very tough competition.

1022
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 6: He gets most of his wrestling defense done with his

1023
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 6: footwork and his range distance, and I.

1024
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 4: Don't think we're gonna see one of those performances.

1025
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 6: I don't think anyway from Marob where he's hitting, you know,

1026
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 6: over ten takedowns in this fight. If he does, man,

1027
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 6: that's gonna be one tough guy to stop. I don't

1028
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 6: think that's the way it's gonna play out, though. I

1029
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 6: think he's gonna have to pick and choose how he

1030
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 6: gets his takedowns and then what he does after that.

1031
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 6: Controlling Dotson is no easy task and he's got to

1032
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:31,240
Speaker 6: be patient.

1033
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 4: So I like Marob in this one as well.

1034
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 6: I do think it's gonna be a very close decision

1035
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 6: on this one as well.

1036
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 4: Let's go with Morob for the win, all.

1037
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 5: Right, Marob Dwallace willie about minus one to eighty here

1038
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 5: on a Monday during fight week. Now we get to

1039
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 5: a feasturre about in the heavyweight division, a couple of American

1040
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 5: Top Team stablemates here, and we will have Ken Flow

1041
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 5: lead the picks. Charzinio Rosen Strike minus one fifty five

1042
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 5: Junior Dos Santos plus one thirty five. So Roses Strike

1043
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 5: called for that fight with Francis, and Ghanu got it

1044
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 5: and it went for him the way it's gone for

1045
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 5: most against Agano of Lady lost in twenty seconds. Thereby

1046
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 5: falls from the ranks of the unbeaten. But Kenny doesn't

1047
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 5: fall that far because he's getting a huge fight here

1048
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 5: against the former champ JDS Biggie Boy favorite Ken Flow.

1049
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 4: Who do you have? You know?

1050
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,479
Speaker 6: I like Jarzenio Rosenstrike in this one. I think he's

1051
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 6: a guy with a lot less miles. I think he's

1052
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 6: gonna be a little bit faster. I love that counter

1053
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,720
Speaker 6: left hook that he throws, and it's a great shot

1054
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,439
Speaker 6: to throw against someone like a Junior Do Santos, who

1055
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 6: sometimes throws himself off balance with that overhand. And Dosantos

1056
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 6: can certainly get the knockout here as well. He still

1057
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 6: has that power, still has that speed, especially early in

1058
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 6: the fight. But I do think rosen Strike will get

1059
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 6: a finish, probably either in the you know, end of

1060
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 6: the second early third.

1061
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,959
Speaker 5: All right, Kenvilalize Jarzino rosenstriking in. On the other side,

1062
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,879
Speaker 5: you have Junior Do Santos, thirty six years old, has

1063
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 5: lost his last two, but of course to elite competition.

1064
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 5: Frances Donald Curtis Razor Blades both by TKO. Hate to

1065
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 5: read too much into social media, but no denying the

1066
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 5: shape that Sagano's in the mustache looks out standing. Your

1067
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 5: thoughts on Junior Dos Santos and do you see any

1068
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 5: value in him as a slight dog here against Biggie Boy.

1069
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 10: I love Junior Dos Santos, one of the nicest guys

1070
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 10: think I've ever met in this sport. But I just

1071
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 10: don't see this going very well for him. And then

1072
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 10: this is look, he's at a point in his career

1073
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 10: where when he loses, he loses really bad. And in

1074
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 10: the heavyweight division, I don't know how much more that

1075
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 10: he could take. And unless he utilizes his jiu jitsu game,

1076
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 10: which he does have. Getting at a kickboxing fight with

1077
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:38,280
Speaker 10: m magloves against a guy.

1078
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 9: And Rosenstrike is not a good idea.

1079
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 10: Listen, Rosenstrike did call for that Francis fight, and if

1080
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 10: you go back and watch, Francis just sprint at him,

1081
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 10: throwing really wild hooks. And if one of those cadets

1082
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:50,720
Speaker 10: you go to the shadow realm this Kenny likes.

1083
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 9: To put it, and he did.

1084
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 4: Junior doesn't.

1085
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 10: I don't think he has that same ambush, you know,

1086
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 10: power wise, it's heavyweight, so they all possess that. I

1087
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 10: just don't see his striking really being much of a

1088
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 10: threat right now. Rosen Strike is the better fighter striking

1089
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 10: wise this fight unless it goes to the ground. But

1090
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 10: I don't even want to ramble on about this. I'm

1091
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 10: scared for Jiujido Santos, I'll be honest. I think rosen

1092
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,399
Speaker 10: Strike knocks him out. I just hope it's not too bad,

1093
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 10: all right?

1094
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 5: Comin event at Banham Wait a couple of title hopefuls

1095
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 5: here Sean O'Malley, the Sugar Show, the Monas three twenty

1096
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 5: five favorite here against Marlon Chito Vera, who is a

1097
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 5: whopping plus two sixty five underdog. I'm not sure Ian

1098
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 5: that people quite understand just how good both of these

1099
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,959
Speaker 5: guys are in terms of all of their different mixed

1100
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 5: martial arts skills. Uh, who do you have in the

1101
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 5: Komain event and how do they get it done?

1102
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:39,919
Speaker 9: Oh? I've been dying to talk about this fight since

1103
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 9: it got booked.

1104
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 4: This is Look?

1105
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 10: Is this the Edmund Shabazian type of situation we're looking

1106
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 10: at here? You know, who have we seen Sugar sean

1107
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 10: fight that really shows us who he is as a fighter. Listen,

1108
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 10: Eddie WiLAN getting knocked out.

1109
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 9: That quick, that doesn't show me who Sugar Sean is.

1110
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,919
Speaker 10: We talk about going through adversity, being put on your back,

1111
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 10: having your legs kicked out, the level. I don't blame

1112
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 10: him for the level of competition he's fought. He said

1113
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 10: it in his interview with you guys. He's taking it slow.

1114
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 10: He wants to be built up. Now all of a sudden,

1115
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 10: we're hitting the gas a little bit. I thought Cheto

1116
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 10: Vera beats on ya Dong. I didn't just say that

1117
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,800
Speaker 10: because I like you Don's name, although it is awesome. No,

1118
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 10: I thought he clearly won that fight Cheeto Vera. If

1119
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 10: he's gonna get this win here, he has to stop

1120
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 10: being so hesitant in that first round, something Kenny and

1121
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 10: I have continuously spoken about with him. That's his biggest problem. Otherwise,

1122
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 10: he is a very well rounded guy.

1123
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 9: He's awesome. He possesses the power. The striking's there, He's

1124
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 9: got a great ground game.

1125
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 10: The question is, is Sugar Sean gonna land that one

1126
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 10: punch on Cheeto. I don't think that happens right now.

1127
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,879
Speaker 10: So I gotta make up some room here. I gotta

1128
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 10: get some points, and I think this is the fight

1129
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:48,879
Speaker 10: where I'm gonna take a shot. I don't think Cheeto

1130
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 10: Vera should be plus two sixty in this fight based

1131
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 10: on everything. That's not taking away anything from Sean or

1132
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 10: giving maybe Cheeto too much credit where he's.

1133
00:48:58,200 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 9: At in his career.

1134
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 10: But between who these guys have fought in their young careers,

1135
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 10: Cheeto has fought way better competition. Shawn's done what he's

1136
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 10: needed to done to get and do to get here,

1137
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 10: no doubt. But this is where we really see what

1138
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 10: he's made, see what he's made of. You know, I

1139
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 10: think Cheto's gonna put the pressure, and for that reason,

1140
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 10: I'm gonna go with the under for now. I'm gonna

1141
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 10: go with the underdog here and take Marlon Vera.

1142
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 4: Do you have a method.

1143
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 9: Oh, I'm sorry, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go. Decision.

1144
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 9: I don't think either one of these guys finish each other.

1145
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 5: Decision for Cheeto Vera, Kenny, I think we're all in

1146
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 5: agreement that the price seems pretty wide here, wider than

1147
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 5: we expected to. I don't think Las Vegas has given

1148
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 5: Cheeto Vera a whole lot of credit. But again, of

1149
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 5: course you need betters to move that number. Uh, Cheetos

1150
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 5: won five or six could easily be six in a row.

1151
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 5: You know, he eats clean, he stays ready, but so

1152
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 5: does O'Malley. O'Malley's twelve and zero, and I think he's

1153
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 5: a guy who's really looking to make up for lost time.

1154
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 5: Right third start here for O'Malley in twenty twenty. Fascinating fight.

1155
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 5: I'm glad they're getting the comaane event, the comine event Shine.

1156
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 5: But the masses want to know Ken Flow, Cheetoh or

1157
00:49:59,320 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 5: O'Malley who.

1158
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 4: Like Cheeto's a beast man.

1159
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 6: I think he's a guy who's extremely well rounded, perhaps

1160
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 6: more well rounded than Sean O'Malley. I do think he's

1161
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 6: more of a threat on the ground than Sean O'Malley.

1162
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 6: We haven't seen too much of O'Malley's clinch game. I

1163
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 6: think Cheeto is going to be a handful there. He's

1164
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 6: one of the few guys he's not quite as tall

1165
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 6: as O'Malley, but he's not short for that division. He's

1166
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 6: pretty tall for that division as well, which I think

1167
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 6: is an interesting wrinkle to that fight. I think if

1168
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,439
Speaker 6: Cheeto's able to get to the clinch, try to take

1169
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 6: away that reach advantage of O'Malley trying to work those

1170
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,439
Speaker 6: knees in short elbows and try to take the fight

1171
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 6: to the ground and really make it a grind, which

1172
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 6: he is capable of doing. I absolutely believe that Cheatovera

1173
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 6: can win that fight. I think that for O'Malley, we

1174
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 6: will find out what he's all about. Whether he gets

1175
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 6: this win or not. He's gotta beat He's gotta beat

1176
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 6: a cheato Vera. If he does want to be a

1177
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 6: champion in this division. That is not going to be easy.

1178
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 6: But I do think he'll be able to squeeze out

1179
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 6: He'll be able to squeeze out a decision win.

1180
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:08,720
Speaker 5: Oh, I can't wait to see if that's your coine

1181
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 5: events Sean O'Malley and Marlon Chito Vera and the boys

1182
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 5: are split on that one. We'll see if Joe Osbourne

1183
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 5: has anything on that fight coming up here in about

1184
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 5: five minutes, all right, Main event for the UFC Heavyweight title.

1185
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 5: Daniel Cormier minus one fifteen steep A Miachich minus one

1186
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,320
Speaker 5: oh five. For our purposes, that means step A is

1187
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 5: the slight underdog, thus two points in our scoring system

1188
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 5: if he wins. So the first meeting July of twenty

1189
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 5: eighteen goes to d C the second meeting August of

1190
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 5: last year. Cormier dominates the first three plus rounds, then

1191
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 5: succumbs steep A Weather's The Storm gets the fourth round.

1192
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 5: Finish trilogy gets decided here on Saturday night.

1193
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 4: It's live on pay per view.

1194
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 5: Ian, you and I have talked extensively about this fight

1195
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:46,959
Speaker 5: off the air, so I know which way you're going.

1196
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 5: But you're on the air now, Cormier or mia Chich

1197
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 5: for the record, I.

1198
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 10: Also know where Kenny's going, So that's a lot of fun. Ah,

1199
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,879
Speaker 10: you know what, I think, it's kind of I'm kind

1200
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:02,439
Speaker 10: of thrown off by the odds a little bit because

1201
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 10: to your point, DC dominated the first three rounds of

1202
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 10: that fight, and then a couple of the body shots

1203
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 10: and what punch changed everything.

1204
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 5: You know.

1205
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 10: I don't know if anyone saw he didn't interview over

1206
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 10: the last few days where he was called out for

1207
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 10: not wrestling as much against a guy like Stevee. You know,

1208
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,800
Speaker 10: I think for Daniel Korimer here, I don't honestly believe

1209
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 10: that this is his last fight at all. I think

1210
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 10: if he does win, I think him and John Jones

1211
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 10: do it at heavyweight because the money is gonna be

1212
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,959
Speaker 10: way too rich for it, and someone like Kormier that's

1213
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,240
Speaker 10: his legacy man like win or lose, he's still.

1214
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 9: Who he is.

1215
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 10: Look, STEVEE shows grit. We know who Stepe is. He

1216
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 10: could take the damage. He comes back, it gets over him.

1217
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 10: It happened, he got dropped, and he came back and

1218
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 10: won that fight. The problem though, with me, is that

1219
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 10: Stepe's chin has taken a lot of shots, and I

1220
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 10: think for Daniel in this fight, he I mean, in

1221
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 10: that last fight it was the body shots, you know.

1222
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,959
Speaker 10: Otherwise I thought he fought perfectly, you know, up until

1223
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 10: that was the fourth round, right, So it's hard for

1224
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 10: me to really see this difference all of a sudden, like,

1225
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 10: what is Steve b a gonna be able to do

1226
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 10: different in the last time That's going to just change

1227
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 10: his fight altogether. Kormia has been fighting a certain way

1228
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 10: forever and he hasn't even really had to use his wrestling.

1229
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 9: That's the scary part.

1230
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:14,760
Speaker 10: Imagine he goes in there and starts scrambling, shooting outside singles,

1231
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:16,879
Speaker 10: hitting him with the high Croark the double. Steve B's

1232
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 10: gonna be like, holy shit, this guy's not trying.

1233
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 9: To knock my block off.

1234
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 10: He's trying to grind me out a little bit, and

1235
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 10: that will also drain him. For that reason, I do

1236
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 10: believe Daniel Kormier is going to tap into that leave

1237
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 10: that wrestling role. I think he has to here. I

1238
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 10: don't think he wants to get knocked out. I think

1239
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 10: he wants to get this win and played a little

1240
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 10: bit safer. And if the knockout comes, it comes. Give

1241
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 10: me Daniel Cormier by third round TKO.

1242
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 5: All right, DC by third round TKO, And what a

1243
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 5: moment it would be if it materializes for Daniel Cormier.

1244
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 5: Kenny feels like there's a lot on the line here, right. Unbelievable.

1245
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 5: Our poll results we did ask our Anakinploring podcast listeners

1246
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 5: to make a prediction. Fifty eight point one percent of

1247
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 5: about three or four thousand had DC, forty one point

1248
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 5: nine percent for Steve A. Miyachich so Ken flow. You know,

1249
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 5: for me, I think a lot of it'll come down

1250
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 5: to Cardio. The fourth round, as I've said repeatedly, has

1251
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 5: been a little bit of a kryptonite for Daniel Cormier.

1252
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 5: What do you think about this third and potentially final

1253
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 5: meeting between two of the best heavyweights.

1254
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 4: Of all time.

1255
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,399
Speaker 6: Oh boy, you know, I get way more nervous for

1256
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 6: when my friends fight than when I fought, you know,

1257
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 6: so I I I'm really nervous for DC. I think

1258
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 6: that steep A is quite the challenge. I think that

1259
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 6: his footwork in particular presents a problem for Daniel, who

1260
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,879
Speaker 6: tends to kind of creep in and try to make

1261
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 6: the octagon and you know, tries to make the octagon

1262
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 6: as small as possible. Uh, the octagon will be a

1263
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 6: little bit smaller literally, So I think that does play

1264
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 6: to his advantage.

1265
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 4: Step A is not gonna be able to move around

1266
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 4: as much as he normally does. And I think for

1267
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 4: a guy who has been fighting on pay per.

1268
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 6: View made events for the you know, latter part of

1269
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 6: his career, that is gonna be an adjustment, particularly for Steepe.

1270
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 4: He's gonna have to be cleaner and.

1271
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 6: More precise with where he where he goes, where he

1272
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 6: moves with his body, how he positions, positions himself up

1273
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 6: against the fence. And I think for d C that's

1274
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 6: a huge advantage that it really is a huge advantage.

1275
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 4: You know.

1276
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 6: I think that step A has certainly been in a

1277
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 6: lot of wars but d C's been doing athletics for a.

1278
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 4: Very long time.

1279
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 6: His body, you know, has a lot of miles on

1280
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 6: it from all the sports that he's been playing over

1281
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 6: the years. And you know, I think in regards to

1282
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 6: fight time and what's going on with the body, I

1283
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 6: think they're about even. I think that step A is

1284
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 6: probably the sharp, the sharper striker as far as you

1285
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 6: take your traditional striking. But the way that DC mixes

1286
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 6: it up I think gives him the advantage. D C

1287
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 6: h if he's able to get to the clinch, should

1288
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 6: be able to take that fight to the matt. I

1289
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 6: still don't think it's going to be easy. Step A

1290
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 6: is very good at scrambling to his feet. I think

1291
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 6: DC's DC's got to make some adjustments, uh in this fight.

1292
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 6: If he's able to do it, I think he can

1293
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 6: get the win. I do think it's going to be

1294
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 6: an absolute war. I think it's going to be a

1295
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 6: big time chess match. I will go with Daniel Cormier

1296
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:14,320
Speaker 6: by decision.

1297
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 5: Wow, is this fight getting the Florian fight forms treatment

1298
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:18,879
Speaker 5: ken floor?

1299
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,439
Speaker 4: Well, it sure is. It's all done. It's all done.

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Speaker 4: It's in the vault.

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Speaker 6: It's in the vault. And our guy Cody will be

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Speaker 6: editing that shortly.

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Speaker 5: All right, So ken Flow has done the shoot further

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Speaker 5: breaking down d C and Stepe and that will be

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Speaker 5: on the Anakin Florian podcast YouTube channel later this week.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 5: On social media you can find Ian at Ian Parker

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Speaker 5: m m A the Duck. The Man will talk to

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Speaker 5: you next week.

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Speaker 10: Buddy, thank you, sir, thank you, and Kenny nice grateful

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Speaker 10: dead shirt.

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Speaker 4: Bro, there you go see that boom. That's good, grateful

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Speaker 4: and he picks Sean O'Malley.

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Speaker 9: We're in a grateful dead shirt.

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Speaker 4: What perfect?

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Speaker 9: That was the first the whole show for me as.

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Speaker 4: Cleaning it up.

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Speaker 5: All right, Ian Parker with us for the main event

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Speaker 5: challenge and he will be back with us next Sunday night.

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Speaker 4: Now, though, let's get to the pick to click.

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Speaker 2: Time now for the.

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Speaker 9: Pick to click.

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Speaker 4: The pick to click.

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Speaker 2: and I'll never members Hi, John annag and Kenny Florian podcast.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 5: sports betting analyst for oddshark dot com. Joe Osborne is

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Speaker 5: with us. Joel, Joel, Joel, it's great to see you.

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Speaker 5: So yesterday on a Sunday, I had action hockey, basketball, baseball.

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Speaker 4: NASCAR and golf.

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Speaker 11: Here we go.

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Speaker 5: Isn't a particularly good day. But how are you navigating

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Speaker 5: this re entry into what is our normalcy? You know,

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Speaker 5: on any given normal time.

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Speaker 11: Well much different change of pace, isn't it right? We

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Speaker 11: went five months where I'm you know, the betting business

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Speaker 11: ever ends, but I'm doing, you know, creating baseball, NASCAR

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Speaker 11: competitive evening on the fourth of July, of course, and

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Speaker 11: of course we had the the UFCS every weekend to

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Speaker 11: get us by, thankfully. But now you know, Monday afternoon

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Speaker 11: NBA games are here, you know, a.

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Speaker 3: Full slate of Major League Baseball. So it's great.

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Speaker 11: But let me say it's a little bit trickier the handicap,

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Speaker 11: especially the Major League Baseball. You know, you have some teams,

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Speaker 11: the majority of teams have double digit games under their

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Speaker 11: belts so far this season. Then you have teams like that,

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Speaker 11: the Saint Louis Cardinals have only played I think five games.

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Speaker 11: They're still on the shelf. Your team, John, the Miami

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Speaker 11: Marlins the most profitable team in baseball right now. Who

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Speaker 11: would have predicted that after a week off. So it's

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Speaker 11: a little bit tricky to navigate right now, but man,

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Speaker 11: it's an absolute blast.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 5: Marlin's with that COVID nineteen, rifling through those veins, just

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Speaker 5: killing guys when they get a chance to play. But

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Speaker 5: you're right, it is hard with baseball, you know, the

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Speaker 5: seven inning double headers. I don't love being I mean

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Speaker 5: I do. I do a lot of first full five,

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Speaker 5: you know, first five inning bets, but these seven inning games.

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Speaker 5: I haven't hit a seven inning game yet. So we'll

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Speaker 5: try to turn that around. But we got a big

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Speaker 5: weekend obviously coming up with Joe UFC two fifty two.

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Speaker 5: We got the third meeting between steep A and DC.

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Speaker 5: So Cormier is slight favorite right now, at least where

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Speaker 5: I'm looking. What can you tell us as to where

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Speaker 5: you might be leaning in what looks like a very

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Speaker 5: competitive and potentially epic main event.

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Speaker 11: So originally I was leaning Steepe in this one. You know,

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Speaker 11: I don't like the idea of a guy coming into

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Speaker 11: a fight with one foot at the door towards retirement.

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Speaker 11: But then I looked at this a little bit closer,

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Speaker 11: and I think DC's situation it's a little bit different.

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Speaker 11: You know, it's not like he's coming into this fight

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Speaker 11: on some type of losing streak or he hasn't regressed

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Speaker 11: in any way. Really, you know, he is coming off

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Speaker 11: the loss, but you know he's saying all the right

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Speaker 11: stuff coming into this fight. You know, he does want

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Speaker 11: to preserve that legacy, he wants to build on it,

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Speaker 11: become the two time heavyweight champion. So I would throw

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Speaker 11: that narrative out the window about you know, DC maybe

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Speaker 11: being distracted about an impending retirement. If someone's using that

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Speaker 11: as a reason to pick against him.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't.

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Speaker 11: If he does lose a fight, I don't think it's

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Speaker 11: going to be because of any type of distraction.

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Speaker 9: So I do like d C.

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Speaker 11: It's not my favorite bet on the card. You know,

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Speaker 11: this fight, it's not quite a coin flip, but at DC,

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Speaker 11: I would lean him sixty percent right now. And the

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Speaker 11: reason is it's nothing groundbreaking. I'm sure other people have

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Speaker 11: done this too. I took their two previous fights and

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Speaker 11: you put them together. You know, they've shared the octagon

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Speaker 11: for five rounds together. I would give d C four

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Speaker 11: of those rounds. Some people might disagree and say step

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Speaker 11: A won the third round and the second fight, but

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Speaker 11: I would give DC four of the five rounds. And

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Speaker 11: he's also outlanded him by fifty nine significant strikes in

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Speaker 11: those two bags.

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Speaker 9: That's a pretty big deal in the heavyweight.

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Speaker 11: Division, in the small cage too. So of course we

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Speaker 11: know what happened in the second fight, right The script

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Speaker 11: was flipped very quickly as soon as Stepe started going

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Speaker 11: to the body a little bit. And you know, I

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Speaker 11: don't have to tell you this. John d C is

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Speaker 11: a smart guy. You know, fighter IQ, he's probably one

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Speaker 11: of the tops in the sports. So I think he

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Speaker 11: can learn from that and come into this one with

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Speaker 11: a little bit better of a defensive game plan. You know,

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Speaker 11: he's a little bit loose with his striking towards the

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Speaker 11: end of the second fight a little bit. So I

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Speaker 11: think we could see him mixing some kicks the ones

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Speaker 11: that he did land in that fight. You know, they

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Speaker 11: look like they hurt, and you know, if this is

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Speaker 11: his last fight, maybe he goes back to his roots

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Speaker 11: a little bit and gets into the grappling. I do

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Speaker 11: think he has a nice edge there grappling, So I

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Speaker 11: would have to go I like DC in this one.

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Speaker 5: If he could wrestle in training, and I'm not even

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Speaker 5: sure in our fighter meeting on Wednesday if he's going

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Speaker 5: to give me the honest answer as to how much

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Speaker 5: he's been able to wrestle with all indications where he

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Speaker 5: couldn't rest so much at all in training leading up

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Speaker 5: to that steep A rematch. So if he could do

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Speaker 5: a training perhaps a lead that way on fight night

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Speaker 5: eightthing else at UFC two to fifty two that peaks

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Speaker 5: your interests about a ten fight car right now?

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Speaker 4: What do you think?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, there's two other spots I like on this one

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Speaker 11: quite a bit, and similar reasoning behind both of them.

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Speaker 11: So big heavyweight fight Jersino Rosa Strike and at JDS.

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Speaker 11: The over under for this one over under one and

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Speaker 11: a half round, so you can get the under at

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Speaker 11: minus one fifteen. I think this is my favorite bet

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Speaker 11: on the card. Guys, So take a look at Rose

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Speaker 11: and Strike's career. Eleven career fights, nine of them were

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Speaker 11: finished before the round and a half mark, and you

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Speaker 11: know he's not exactly going up against a very aggressive

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Speaker 11: drappler in JDS. I think he can kept the amount

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Speaker 11: of takedowns he has in the octagon on one hand,

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Speaker 11: maybe so not a real grappling threat from either guy,

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Speaker 11: so I don't think that's going to chew up a

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Speaker 11: lot of time. And you know, no big secret here.

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Speaker 11: It's a heavyweight division. Each of these guys has some

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Speaker 11: serious power. It is this cage. JDS on the wrong

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Speaker 11: end of multiple KOs in recent years. Rosenshreke, I don't

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Speaker 11: think he has really good striking defense, So I think

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Speaker 11: the blueprint is there in that one for an early

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Speaker 11: finish from either guy and JDS as the underdog. That's

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Speaker 11: not a bad bet there in my opinion. So I

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Speaker 11: do like the under one and a half rounds and

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Speaker 11: that one quite a bit. Then one of the preliminary fights,

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Speaker 11: Herbert Burns versus Daniel Pineda, the over under there is

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Speaker 11: set up one and a half as well. I like

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Speaker 11: the under minus one twenty similar reasoning. You know, you

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Speaker 11: take a look at Burns eight career first round victories

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Speaker 11: in thirteen total fights, including four straight wins in the

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Speaker 11: first round. Then you take a look at Daniel Pineda,

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Speaker 11: not exactly a household name. He is a veteran of

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Speaker 11: the UFT those you guys probably know. He fought in

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Speaker 11: the UFC from twenty twelve twenty fourteen, seven total fights.

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Speaker 11: He's had five straight fights and in the first round.

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Speaker 11: But check this out, thirty nine career fights, twenty three

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Speaker 11: of those have ended in the first round. He's only

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Speaker 11: gone to decision five times thirty nine career fights. Burns

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Speaker 11: what we've seen from them, small sample size, but very aggressive.

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Speaker 11: Was grappling two fights in the gone twelve takedowns and

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Speaker 11: both of those fights he won in the first round.

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Speaker 11: So I think the blueprint is there as well. And

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Speaker 11: you know, a lot of people don't like trends like

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Speaker 11: you know, if you apply these trends to a Major

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Speaker 11: League baseball game, Hey, this guy's gone under and seventh

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Speaker 11: straight or they've gone under and seven straight games, those

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Speaker 11: don't always pan out.

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Speaker 3: But if i'd with the UFC.

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Speaker 11: You know, these trends says a lot about the style

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Speaker 11: of the fighters and the two fights that I just

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Speaker 11: pointed out. I don't think either of those four fighters

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Speaker 11: is coming into this to win a fight on points.

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Speaker 11: All four of those guys are going to be going

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Speaker 11: for a finish on Saturday night. So I like those

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Speaker 11: bets quite a bit.

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Speaker 5: That's some good research on Pineda Burns. I think you

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Speaker 5: might be onto something there. And you look pretty good

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Speaker 5: with your over round and a half on Derek Lewis

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Speaker 5: and Alexi a little you go to a second round,

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Speaker 5: you have to feel pretty good sitting on that ticket.

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Speaker 11: Right, Yeah, Linnik, I think you got a little complacent

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Speaker 11: there with the stand up, and all Derek Lewis needed

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01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 11: was split second to laying that punch. Then he got

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Speaker 11: on top of him.

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Speaker 9: And Derek Lewis trying.

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Speaker 11: To reinvent himself a little bit there in the heavyweight division,

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01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 11: a more sleek version. That's Derek Lewis with a little

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Speaker 11: bit better curdio. So yeah, that one hurt. You know,

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Speaker 11: I didn't sleep as well as I would have liked

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Speaker 11: to do on Saturday night. That happens, so you know,

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01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 11: you get the bad beats, but the UFC has been

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Speaker 11: good to meet through at the coronavirus pandemic here. So

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Speaker 11: let's hope we can keep it going here on Saturday night.

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Speaker 4: Let's keep it going on Twitter.

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Speaker 5: He is at jtfoz and we've been tracking your every move.

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Speaker 5: I know it's a difficult navigation for all the pro

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Speaker 5: cappers out there, but Joe Osborne sports analysts more content

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Speaker 5: from him at oddshark dot com. Great stuff as always, brother,

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Speaker 5: enjoyed the pay per view. We will talk to you

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Speaker 5: before UFC two fifty three in September.

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Speaker 11: Absolutely, Thank you, guys, good luck to you, and good

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Speaker 11: luck to all the listeners out there.

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Speaker 5: Thank you so much. There he is Joel Osborne. Don't

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Speaker 5: call him Joey, don't call him fucking but Joe Osborne

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Speaker 5: helping us out here on the Anakin Floran podcast today,

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Speaker 5: all right, a couple programming notes on the way out

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Speaker 5: of here. Florian Fight forms episode two later in the week,

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Speaker 5: so you can look for that anti florianpodcast dot com

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Speaker 5: and also on the YouTube channel. Also, our UFC two

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Speaker 5: to fifty two recap show is gonna be taped next Sunday,

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Speaker 5: August sixteenth, So Ken Flow is fined a DC.

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Speaker 4: Is that to work with Ryan Hall? Is that why

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Speaker 4: you're going? Correct? Correct? So ken Flow is heading east.

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Speaker 5: So we're gonna get our two to fifty two recap

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Speaker 5: in the can on Sunday. We'll see how quickly Cody

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Speaker 5: Merrow the Wizard can spin that thing around. But a

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Speaker 5: quick turn nonetheless for our show. And just wanted to

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Speaker 5: say and close, and we appreciate everybody out there who's listening,

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Speaker 5: who's subscribing or watching on YouTube.

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Speaker 4: We're trying to keep this thing going.

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Speaker 5: You can also support the show MAROCKYBJJ dot com and

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Speaker 5: florinpodcast dot com has merchandise. There's a promo code up

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Speaker 5: there as well. And we appreciate every last one of

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Speaker 5: you out there, but we got to get on out

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Speaker 5: of here. Thanks to Ray Longo, Ian Parker, Joel Osborne.

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Speaker 5: This has been a Cody Merrow production. With that for

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Speaker 5: ken Ball, John Anick, everybody enjoy you two fifty two,

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Speaker 5: get the masks on or otherwise, just don't test while

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Speaker 5: you're driving, and we'll talk to in like five.

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Speaker 4: Days or so. Until then, be well, be healthy, yielded