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Speaker 2: Chip?

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Speaker 1: Hey, Hey, gonna be pissed about your sound?

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Speaker 3: Oh no, is it bad?

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Speaker 2: It's just a little echoey. But tell the people what happens.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm in New York for work and I completely

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Speaker 3: think about packing my microphone. So got back to amateur hour.

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Speaker 2: Over here, right for one of us, at least, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Some of my AirPods because I used to do this

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Speaker 1: I think it'll be all right for one people can

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Speaker 3: You know, it is beautiful in New York City this week,

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Speaker 3: so I room in the streets, but I'm here with y'all.

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Speaker 1: Wow, we feel so blessed with your presence.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. What do you doing in New York this week?

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Speaker 3: Well, uh Elle has She had three shows in New

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Speaker 3: Today's Wednesday. She's playing tonight and Thursday tomorrow night at

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Speaker 1: If you're listening and you don't know what that song is,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no kids in the car after and drop off.

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Speaker 3: I as always been a naturally curious person too, and

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Speaker 1: And I love that you're looking at the word abandon

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Speaker 1: Do you know you probably don't even know this song deep.

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Speaker 1: Oh, so we'll take that energy with us in August

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Speaker 1: with the word abandon If you guys have any thoughts

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Speaker 1: We're just about this word and what you're thinking in

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Speaker 1: some ways that you'd like us to explore this month.

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Speaker 1: Email us at the Edge at velvet sedge dot com.

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Speaker 1: You can also reach us on Instagram. I'm at Velvet's Edge, Chip.

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Speaker 3: I'm at Chip doors at h I P D O

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Speaker 1: Well, anyway, as you guys go into the weekend and

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Speaker 2: Well, we can't say that anymore. Remember abandoned by anyway,

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