Speaker 1: Look man, oh, I see you? Why why? And look
Speaker 1: over there? How is that culture? Yes? Goodness, Lost Culture
Speaker 1: calling If it isn't my favorite little Ninny, if it
Speaker 1: isn't my favorite little Nanna. By the way, can I
Speaker 1: just say that we really stumbled little Nancy boy, We
Speaker 1: stumbled on a really cool new sort of entertainment format.
Speaker 1: I think you and I which is which is the
Speaker 1: Honesty Zone on Instagram Live are weekly Honesty Zone. It's
Speaker 1: not weekly, it's sort of irregularly scheduled um sort of
Speaker 1: schedules permitting as Mountain unet. This is the pot when
Speaker 1: I say that it's weekly, and then we have to
Speaker 1: like try to like do that every week and really
Speaker 1: can't fulfill that. And I don't know any legions of
Speaker 1: fans called the readers, called the readers. I think we
Speaker 1: can make it monthly. But basically it's called the Honesty
Speaker 1: Zone and is not affiliated with Lost Culture ustas. But well,
Speaker 1: we will use this platform to promote it. But it's
Speaker 1: an Instagram Live show where it's a competition between mount
Speaker 1: and Knights see who earns the most honesty song. Legendary
Speaker 1: Legend Stars, Legendary Legends, Honesty Stars. We have Trixie Mattel.
Speaker 1: Trixie Mattel is finally putting out like fun like rock
Speaker 1: music that could have been out of the Freaky Friday movie.
Speaker 1: I am loving It's never been more fountains of Wayne
Speaker 1: to it sounds of Wayne. Oh my god, No, we
Speaker 1: love fountains of Lane every jud I know we talked
Speaker 1: about this on the last episode, your last iconic episode.
Speaker 1: Now before we sort of like where all the piss
Speaker 1: streams cross them just becomes a piss moment, because we're
Speaker 1: going to just say that our guest today is a
Speaker 1: returning guest, is a pop culture icon singer, songwriter, drag
Speaker 1: race winner UM and that's topical. I'll tell you that
Speaker 1: UM and, among other things, has a new shot on
Speaker 1: Delight and it's called The Trixie Motel, and it documents
Speaker 1: and chronicles really, and I think we need to be
Speaker 1: using the word chronicles more in the culture, just to
Speaker 1: be honestly chronicles the step four months the Trixie Motel,
Speaker 1: it's really I I loved it. We we got to
Speaker 1: talk to our guest about this. I really enjoyed this
Speaker 1: whole fucking show. You better believe I watched the whole thing.
Speaker 1: I watched it down here. Shed a tear at Danny
Speaker 1: and Phillips wedding. Not for nothing that I thought it
Speaker 1: was beautiful. I'm allowed to talk to you guys still
Speaker 1: pretend from the road, you know. I gotta say I
Speaker 1: stopped you guys to come back on because I just
Speaker 1: I love I mean, I love you guys so much.
Speaker 1: I love you want to discovery. Plus it's exactly what happened.
Speaker 1: But you know what, whenever I have something to promote,
Speaker 1: I have like a shortlist of things I actually like
Speaker 1: that people I actually know, And that's when I reached
Speaker 1: out to first, because let the publicist do their thing.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, I'm my own publicist. I know people
Speaker 1: too exactly. You know. Let me connect with the girls
Speaker 1: because we haven't seen you since our Italian feast, since Rouse,
Speaker 1: since we went to Rouse that wedding. Oh that's right,
Speaker 1: you know, so much has happened. When was that was
Speaker 1: right before I left for to March. That was March.
Speaker 1: Yeah you what you love for toward the next day, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the night I think I do believe you left right
Speaker 1: after that. I left right after I left dinner to go.
Speaker 1: That was fun and magical though, and you know what,
Speaker 1: I love inviting people to restaurants that are close to
Speaker 1: my house, regardless of the quality. And it's my favorite place.
Speaker 1: And it's a flock away, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Is this a free promo right now? Is it Rio's
Speaker 1: I don't know. Is there anybody Italian who can help us?
Speaker 1: Who's Italian? It's Mateo Lane is making a huge comeback
Speaker 1: in my algorithm, Like all my YouTube ship is saying,
Speaker 1: here's a Mateo Lane video because because he's he's he's
Speaker 1: he's full on doing channel content and he's so good
Speaker 1: at it. He's doing cooking tutorials and I god, we
Speaker 1: love Mateo Lane in this child don't so funny? You
Speaker 1: know what he and I were just talking about. This
Speaker 1: is like a side note. We were just he and
Speaker 1: I just did just for last two nights ago and
Speaker 1: we were like, we were like we you still want
Speaker 1: to be like I'm gay but I appeal to everyone,
Speaker 1: or like I'm the gay guy who can perform in
Speaker 1: any room. And now I'm like, no, no way. If
Speaker 1: I don't make jokes that only gave people laugh at,
Speaker 1: I'm quitting. Yeah, I want I want it to fall
Speaker 1: on deaf ears. I want strap to straight people to
Speaker 1: feel excluded by the content. I mean, I always say, like,
Speaker 1: whenever I'm doing a show, I always do pold the
Speaker 1: crowd and I say, who's straight here? And then some
Speaker 1: of them even make noise, which I then sort of
Speaker 1: like unpack, like look at you all, you straight people
Speaker 1: cheering for yourselves? And then I say, just kidding, just kidding.
Speaker 1: I don't want anyone to be here and feel uncomfortable
Speaker 1: just because something is wrong with them, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. People they have this disease, it's affliction that
Speaker 1: is being straight, and I just but I don't want
Speaker 1: at my show them to feel bad about that. But
Speaker 1: I don't care if they get the jokes. It's not
Speaker 1: for you, right, you see the straight girls get lost,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, sorry, you don't know about poppers. Sorry
Speaker 1: they haven't done a mini challenge on drag Race on
Speaker 1: the subject yet. But I don't sound irresponsible. It's not
Speaker 1: responsible to ducate you. But straight girls have from poppers though,
Speaker 1: yes they have, Yes they have, yes, What what do
Speaker 1: you guys think is going on psychologically spiritually with people
Speaker 1: who do poppers? In the middle of a night out
Speaker 1: at a club, I do it um, I do it okay,
Speaker 1: and I guess we've done together. Tricks what I was
Speaker 1: teaching the other night and somebody reached over the decks
Speaker 1: and was like and I was like, are you on
Speaker 1: crack coke? Because I get out of here like I think,
Speaker 1: I don't know. No, it's great because there are songs
Speaker 1: that are popper songs. You know this trick che Charlie,
Speaker 1: Any anything by Charlie, anything by Charlie, A good Puss,
Speaker 1: Good Posts by Cobra. Yeah, yes, honey, do you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like? These are these are popper songs?
Speaker 1: I mean not for nothing, can't be anything you get
Speaker 1: excited about. I was at the Tricks the other night
Speaker 1: and they played sleep at Night, and I was ready
Speaker 1: to pop the poperas how do you sleep the nut?
Speaker 1: I wanted the popperas popped when when the second verse
Speaker 1: of not ready to make nice Baby pop the popper,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, when you find out what happens to Earle,
Speaker 1: I'm fucking flying high. I'm so ran flying ya. That's
Speaker 1: a slippery slope. It could be like oh o'riley's and
Speaker 1: you're like, oh fuck you d alright, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and mama's got white like funk at the paper. You know,
Speaker 1: it could be anything. Stanley, Yeah, I want to to
Speaker 1: Stanley Steamer is so bad. Anytime you listen to a
Speaker 1: radio station, it's like one else six point one b
Speaker 1: l I or in your car going through your fucking
Speaker 1: like dude cabinets like open box. Not even that you
Speaker 1: have a wet rag like that movie with Um with
Speaker 1: a guy in the club snipping the rag. But you
Speaker 1: know what, al Pacino already plays the hustler. No, he
Speaker 1: plays like a gay hustler who like is murdering people. Right,
Speaker 1: I don't know al Paccino played a gay hustler who's
Speaker 1: murdering people. I think so, I don't look at that's
Speaker 1: the title of that gay hustler who murders people? Is
Speaker 1: the title of your second app That's what you are?
Speaker 1: Queer film, it's cruising. But you know plays Burns, a
Speaker 1: detective trying to solve a series of homosexual murders. He
Speaker 1: goes under convert pretending to be a gay sn m person.
Speaker 1: I love that where he's like dancing at a club
Speaker 1: sniffing a rack, like, oh my god, yeah he's goody
Speaker 1: he's That's that that is the word for what we
Speaker 1: do in the club, the gays. We get together and
Speaker 1: bring gooning back, gooning and baiting and bading, you know what,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm word that. I was talking to
Speaker 1: Mary Beth Burrone and she wants to bring back geeks
Speaker 1: as an insult, like you're fucking geek, Like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: love that. People have been way too proud of that
Speaker 1: for too long. Yeah, well it's nerds now now. Like
Speaker 1: nerds people are like I'm a nerd and like there's
Speaker 1: a pride fullness about it, which like great, good for you.
Speaker 1: But geeks is like, there's no way you make that
Speaker 1: seem cool. No, That's what sucks about the internet is
Speaker 1: anyone can have a community now and feel empowered. Anyone
Speaker 1: can get online and find an online community and feel empowered.
Speaker 1: So you have these geeks and these nerds getting together
Speaker 1: and their geek and nerd communities, and suddenly they're walking
Speaker 1: into school with their heads held high, and I think
Speaker 1: it's disgusting. And what I have to say to them, geeks,
Speaker 1: you're fucking geeks? Why also, only hot cool people who
Speaker 1: like exploit one avenue of their personality that might be
Speaker 1: slightly geeky and they're like, I'm such a dark yeah
Speaker 1: fucking nerd. It's Pokemon for these gay guys gay and
Speaker 1: the first thing they go to is Pokemon. And I
Speaker 1: say that as a Pokemon fan for life, but like, yeah,
Speaker 1: who's also one of the coolest people in America? Bowen,
Speaker 1: thank you. Well that's the thing. But unless you have
Speaker 1: a Twitch channel where you live open Pokemon cards eight
Speaker 1: hours a day, you are not a nerd, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, show me, show me the real receipts, show
Speaker 1: me the squirrel tattoo on your face, bit, show me
Speaker 1: the reality. Wow, Okay, why out? But is there have
Speaker 1: you done that before? Like is there one thing about
Speaker 1: you that you have like for you? Is it? Like, well,
Speaker 1: I like folk music? Did you ever use that as
Speaker 1: like a geek nerd card? No one thinks liking folk
Speaker 1: music is cool. People who do folk music don't think
Speaker 1: it's It's a little like musical theater where people, even
Speaker 1: people who do it, are like, isn't it m yea.
Speaker 1: And also a lot of people who do electronic music
Speaker 1: and stuff E. D M. They it's like start they
Speaker 1: started in real instruments, folky ship and then at some
Speaker 1: point of flips, which like they turn focus their past
Speaker 1: and their beginning, and then they turned to d M music.
Speaker 1: Like Maggie Rogers. Yeah, I remember reading an interview about
Speaker 1: Moby like saying that he like went to a gay
Speaker 1: club and heard like house music for the first time,
Speaker 1: and his complete like desire and music changed. He was like,
Speaker 1: I want to do. I think that's a real thing
Speaker 1: about Maggie Rodgers too, Like she went to school because
Speaker 1: she went to the Clid Davis School at n y U,
Speaker 1: which is like very very tough to get into, Like
Speaker 1: they genuinely try to prepare people to become like recording
Speaker 1: superstars and like big producers. And she was like a
Speaker 1: folk artist period, and then being in the city, I
Speaker 1: think she was exposed to like club music, and that's
Speaker 1: when she did her thing and had her like iconic
Speaker 1: YouTube clip with Farrell where he she was playing her
Speaker 1: song for him and he was like, who the fuck
Speaker 1: is this girl? And then she became Mr totally yeah,
Speaker 1: folk music, I mean I don't have anything like that.
Speaker 1: I mean drag well, I mean drag drag wasn't very
Speaker 1: it wasn't very cool until recently. So I mean there
Speaker 1: was a depresident does drag, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: That's like everyone does, everyone does drag. Everyone. It's oh,
Speaker 1: it's definitely Barbie's because people are like, I love Barbie,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, but where were you in nineteen sixty
Speaker 1: two with fashion? You know what I mean? Like, because
Speaker 1: I really know when fashion Queen Barbie hit the scene,
Speaker 1: Fashion Queen Barbie. Yes on the show Yes with James Yes.
Speaker 1: The way I'm gonna go to Like it's like when
Speaker 1: nerds go to superhero movies and they hate it no
Speaker 1: matter what. That's gonna be me with with the Barbie movie,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be like, are you excited and thrilled? I'm
Speaker 1: excited and thrilled because I love anything about something I love.
Speaker 1: No one hates the Sims more than Sims stands. No
Speaker 1: one hates drag race more than drag race dance, No
Speaker 1: one writes Stephen King adaptation. So I don't participate in
Speaker 1: loving something and therefore hating it. I think that's psycho
Speaker 1: And you know what, that's that's really important, And that's
Speaker 1: actually something about stand culture that I'm like, if you
Speaker 1: were a real stand And I'm just gonna bravely say
Speaker 1: this right now Okay, a real tailor stand would want
Speaker 1: her to not fly in that private jet as much
Speaker 1: as she does. A real tailor Stan would be like,
Speaker 1: reduced the emissions, mama. And some of these stand Twitter
Speaker 1: threads are like it's so funny. It's so funny to
Speaker 1: watch like a threat of teller supporting the environment. Taylor's
Speaker 1: lyrics are said to say things about trees. Taylor album
Speaker 1: Folklore and two thousand and twenty and it was very
Speaker 1: much taking place in the woods, which is the environment.
Speaker 1: It's like ease, which is trees. Actually, so she never
Speaker 1: got on the plane ever in her life. And I'm
Speaker 1: just like, guys, it's okay to stand someone and I
Speaker 1: think this is important and also hold them to account.
Speaker 1: It's like when you're being a friend and you see
Speaker 1: that your friend is in trouble, a real friend says something. Period.
Speaker 1: It's also okay to like someone's art and not personally
Speaker 1: co sign on every moral decision they've ever made. Like
Speaker 1: the way now we require people we stand to have
Speaker 1: the same beliefs. We even we even require corporations to
Speaker 1: have values. We we we require clean x during the
Speaker 1: month of June to show us that they like gay
Speaker 1: people or it doesn't matter to me. If Coca Cola
Speaker 1: says they like gay people, that's not a person. That's
Speaker 1: not even like, what are we talking about. It's actually
Speaker 1: a real culture number four, Coca Cola Cola, that's not
Speaker 1: the person. Yeah, every Prime month, it's like we're ready
Speaker 1: to show that. You know, Nike, Nike is fierce. I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's a shoe, Mary, and it's a flat so it's
Speaker 1: not even a hell. We're going back to the Barbie thing.
Speaker 1: I love. I think you did. You did have a
Speaker 1: quote or something about Margot Robbie that I loved because
Speaker 1: you were like when I think of Margart Robbie, I
Speaker 1: think relatable. That's my grandma, that's my I know, I know,
Speaker 1: you know I did. I did get called in of course,
Speaker 1: and you know she and I, well, she and I
Speaker 1: get seen in a lot of the same rooms, do
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Always for the Barbie type,
Speaker 1: it's either going to be Margot that you were not
Speaker 1: asked to be in the movie though trick state everybody
Speaker 1: and their mother, isn't it her tomorrow? Weaving? You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like Naomi Watts for some time, like
Speaker 1: we'd all be it's like, hey, Weaving, Tomorrow Weaving, she
Speaker 1: just shot up in bed and it's like, huh someone
Speaker 1: and ears are burning. Oh I hope she is. I
Speaker 1: love you Smorrow. So yeah, but I didn't get asked
Speaker 1: me in the movie. But I will say, and I
Speaker 1: believe in predicting the future. When times come time to
Speaker 1: promote that movie, you know this Hord is going to
Speaker 1: get a call. You know, I'm gonna go do some
Speaker 1: red carpet where I have to be like, you know,
Speaker 1: what was it like putting on a blond wig? You know,
Speaker 1: like of course, and I'll do it, and I'll do it.
Speaker 1: Your rate has to be so no, but you have
Speaker 1: to do it for so much money. But I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you, because I'm a person to wig, the opening
Speaker 1: call will be it's a great opportunity for you. We
Speaker 1: don't have budget at this time, but we do need
Speaker 1: you to fly yourself to North Korea and need to
Speaker 1: interview Margot Robbie while jumping out of a plane. And
Speaker 1: it's opportunity and please look absolutely fabulous that's what you
Speaker 1: want to say. And we do need to submit for
Speaker 1: offits for approval three months in advance. It's it's literally
Speaker 1: going to be that. I mean, it's crazy, but good
Speaker 1: for them. Good for them. Can I ask, where was
Speaker 1: that your decision to be Well, you were epeeing on
Speaker 1: the show, but where is that your decision to be
Speaker 1: in drag for most of Tricksy Motel. Yes, I wanted
Speaker 1: to be in drag all the time originally, unfortunately, because
Speaker 1: originally Dave and I conceived the show. We created it
Speaker 1: and conceived it like we were watching like My Life
Speaker 1: on the Delist, the Simple Life, The Comeback, and Brady Renovation.
Speaker 1: So like there's the reno element with the camp element,
Speaker 1: and then there's parts in the show where we're kind
Speaker 1: of playing reality show like it's a little bit my
Speaker 1: favorite parts of the of the fucking show where when
Speaker 1: you guys were pretending to be on a reality show?
Speaker 1: Are I mean, yes, there's a part in the last episode.
Speaker 1: It opens with me um Emily Hampshire from Ship's Creek
Speaker 1: checking in and we do like an improv comedy scene
Speaker 1: basically where I trick her into working at the motel
Speaker 1: and it's like, well, I'm the person in a wig
Speaker 1: and pretending to be real is my reality and drag
Speaker 1: so we can sort of do reality TV skit as
Speaker 1: reality TV because it is real. I mean, we did
Speaker 1: spend two million dollars on a building that we had
Speaker 1: to renovate that was all real, so we already had
Speaker 1: enough reality, you know. But we love doing like the
Speaker 1: I mean, I just love being a drag as much
Speaker 1: as could. Unfortunately, with Palm Springs and it's renovations, I
Speaker 1: can't exactly sit there and do manual labor and drag.
Speaker 1: You know, it's too much or whatever. But like, ye
Speaker 1: and I did a lot of it. I mean, if
Speaker 1: you watch like the time lap sections, it'll be like
Speaker 1: the sun going down and you'll see me in a
Speaker 1: room painting a mural for hours, like running around fast motion.
Speaker 1: So it's not like we did the It was also
Speaker 1: like a balancing act. Because I said this affectionately to
Speaker 1: the friends at Discovery Plus, they said, well, I'm not
Speaker 1: like other rental talent. I have a career, like I
Speaker 1: have a job, so like, in addition to renovating this,
Speaker 1: I have I have to go the stobody gigs and
Speaker 1: the makeup company and like, so half the show probably
Speaker 1: has to be following me to my other jobs because
Speaker 1: I'm not just like pretending to paint and then they
Speaker 1: all cut and I go sit on a beam big
Speaker 1: chair for two days, you know, the actual thing, and
Speaker 1: it's our real building, our real business. So like we
Speaker 1: we had to spend half million dollars on just rent.
Speaker 1: I mean there's a myth that renovation television they give
Speaker 1: you a bunch of money and do everything for free.
Speaker 1: That is not true. It was your own budget. That
Speaker 1: was your own money. Yes, I mean they do things
Speaker 1: like trade outs, like for example, let's say you're reading
Speaker 1: your kitchen and Black and Decker wants to give you
Speaker 1: a free fridge and stuff right right right, and that's great,
Speaker 1: or done Edwards wants to donate the paint for your
Speaker 1: living room. Like they definitely definitely can get items more
Speaker 1: than you get a giant wire transfer to use as
Speaker 1: you please. Like that's at least a Vanderpump actually gifts. Yes, Well,
Speaker 1: when I pitched you to her, I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: we're all gonna do Like it's gonna be a little
Speaker 1: bit Turxy's famous friends forced into manual labor. I mean
Speaker 1: that's kind of the energy, right, you have like the
Speaker 1: coule buyer showing up in full hair and makeup and
Speaker 1: She's like, so, what are we doing? And I said,
Speaker 1: here's a brush and she's like, oh, we're like horrible pack.
Speaker 1: I'm like, here's a hammer. We're really doing this. But
Speaker 1: Vanderpump was like, I'm not doing that. She was like,
Speaker 1: I'll do She's like, I'll buy you something. I said, yeah,
Speaker 1: But she's not. You know, she's very involved in her businesses,
Speaker 1: but she's I don't think I'm gonna get her on
Speaker 1: the on her hands and knees, ling up, you know,
Speaker 1: tongue and group. She laid every bricket, sir though she
Speaker 1: that was every depict sir completely. I mean, she is
Speaker 1: very self sufficient though. I mean, she's arguably the richest
Speaker 1: most famous person we had on the on the show,
Speaker 1: and she's the only one who drives himself, insists on
Speaker 1: doing their own hair and makeup and didn't require that really,
Speaker 1: And then you have I've learned through producing now that
Speaker 1: the newest, youngest celebrities are the most insane with their demands,
Speaker 1: and the oldest, most established celebrities are like, I'll drive myself.
Speaker 1: It's fine, I don't need here to make up. You
Speaker 1: want to know what it is? I bet that they're
Speaker 1: the novelty of getting all that ship is just over
Speaker 1: for them because it just means they have to talk
Speaker 1: to more people. And she's like, because you do realize
Speaker 1: like when they do, like like when it is really involved,
Speaker 1: like these new people who are like not used to
Speaker 1: being driven places and have hair and makeup and like
Speaker 1: the snacks of it all and the being handled, it's
Speaker 1: like exciting for them. Well at Leasta Vanderbums like, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk to anyone. I'm coming, we're
Speaker 1: shopping and I'm out. Yeah. She also because I was
Speaker 1: producing the show, and she also knows like it's all
Speaker 1: my own money and my own budget, so she was like,
Speaker 1: whatever saved you the most money, whatever's easiest, you know,
Speaker 1: that's awesome. I specifically love the parts that were like
Speaker 1: playing reality you and David specifically where it was like,
Speaker 1: you know, you would like get the news that the
Speaker 1: permits or the licenses weren't working out in the way
Speaker 1: that they were supposed to, and then it would cut
Speaker 1: away to you guys in the confessional, and then you
Speaker 1: would turn to David and be like, David, he didn't
Speaker 1: tell me that the liquor licenses had to be signed
Speaker 1: in blood or what you know, like whatever or whatever
Speaker 1: the hell it was like. It was kind, it was
Speaker 1: just very it was very cute. And I don't mean
Speaker 1: that in a patronizing way, but I was just like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is so, this is a lovely viewing experience. Well,
Speaker 1: David didn't even want to be on this. I mean,
Speaker 1: David's a producer. He never wanted to be on camera.
Speaker 1: He never wanted to be on the show. Originally, when
Speaker 1: I pitched the show, it was kind of me and
Speaker 1: my assistant a little bit like the comeback. But then
Speaker 1: because it's you know, renovation is sort of family based,
Speaker 1: right your home, your business is about your personal stakes. Yes,
Speaker 1: So then they're like, well, your partners producing the show
Speaker 1: really owns half the business, really is in it with you,
Speaker 1: And they're like, well, he needs to be on it.
Speaker 1: So then I turned to David, who's nervous, sweaty and
Speaker 1: camera shy, and be like, you have you know, it's
Speaker 1: like you have to be on this show. Now. It's
Speaker 1: funny that I have so many friends who would shoot
Speaker 1: someone to be on television, and then David, who earnestly
Speaker 1: doesn't want to be Starting with everything, it's so funny.
Speaker 1: He like him in interviews just never know when fame
Speaker 1: is going to come. He's really funny. He just wanted
Speaker 1: to make the show, and watching him be forced into
Speaker 1: being in it is really funny to me because he
Speaker 1: doesn't want to be on it. I also, like, I
Speaker 1: don't think I understood in the beginning that like this
Speaker 1: was an like I understood it as an actual When
Speaker 1: the show was first announced, I was like, Oh, that
Speaker 1: won't be something you can actually stay in. And then
Speaker 1: it's like, absolutely something you can actually stay in. And
Speaker 1: you know, I was on the website yesterday looking at
Speaker 1: rates and I'm like, roast me. No girl, No, first
Speaker 1: of all, I'm not I'm not dragging. I'm saying I'm
Speaker 1: getting a gay army together and I'm taking over the
Speaker 1: Trixie Motel. I think it's going to happen in November.
Speaker 1: You should. We've only been opening it like a couple
Speaker 1: of months in advance because we're really trying to prioritize
Speaker 1: people who want to rent like the whole thing for
Speaker 1: their friends for the weekend. I think that that's a
Speaker 1: hard thing because it is so fun and I have
Speaker 1: to just say, like I was sitting here drinking my
Speaker 1: weed seltzer, fucking basking in it. It is so gorgeous
Speaker 1: to look at it. It's just like every single room
Speaker 1: like it is so fun, and I honestly was having
Speaker 1: a really hard time picking a favorite. I do think
Speaker 1: that like there is something to the Malibu Barbara room.
Speaker 1: I just I really really respond to that because I
Speaker 1: feel like I can't book the oh Honeymoon Sweet for myself,
Speaker 1: but everyone, you gotta go on the website Trixi Motel,
Speaker 1: and honestly, this would be a really fun thing to
Speaker 1: do with all your friends. But look at all the pictures.
Speaker 1: Obviously watch the show, but like you can see on
Speaker 1: the whole website. The website, by the way, is a
Speaker 1: mzing like really well laid out, very very like just
Speaker 1: you're so good at all this, but like it was
Speaker 1: really fun to like engage with it while I was
Speaker 1: watching because I was getting excited about a Palm Springs getaway.
Speaker 1: And my question for you is can you play music outside?
Speaker 1: Because it's a commercial space, you can't fuck wow, So
Speaker 1: if nobody knows, I'm sure you guys have talked about it,
Speaker 1: because you guys visit PS you and at Rental, you
Speaker 1: you guys real as got kicked the iPhone in the
Speaker 1: middle of outside. Yes, my friend Krishliker was dressed as
Speaker 1: a cat and he had to go to the door
Speaker 1: and field the leasting person saying, not only are you
Speaker 1: not allowed to do this, but you all have to
Speaker 1: leave within the hour, pack up your ship now, no
Speaker 1: second chances. It was. It was really crazy. And if
Speaker 1: you are going to Palm Springs and you think, oh,
Speaker 1: won't happened to us, listen to my voice, the voice
Speaker 1: of truth. It will have been to you. Honey, you
Speaker 1: are in danger. Girl. We will be offering a lot
Speaker 1: of well. First of all, we have like the disneyland
Speaker 1: Rocks thing where music plays from somehow nowhere. We have that.
Speaker 1: In addition to that, we have a lobby that you
Speaker 1: could throw You can put a disco ball up in
Speaker 1: there and throw a dance party inside if you want,
Speaker 1: like more of a vibe. We also have things like um,
Speaker 1: a movie theater screen that you can put up by
Speaker 1: the pool with the projector so you can put on
Speaker 1: a movie of choice and swim and drink and watch
Speaker 1: your favorite movie with your friends. David and I used
Speaker 1: to go to Palm Springs and are options for either
Speaker 1: stay in a soulless Airbnb that's clearly a rental owned
Speaker 1: by rich bags where I can get literally kicked out
Speaker 1: from my phone ringing too loud, or stay in a
Speaker 1: rotted boutique motel that was gutted, or the or the
Speaker 1: margar Yta bill, which is fine, but like the flip
Speaker 1: flop is a stiletto. With the Margarada bill, that's a
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say so, that's the flip flop. And honestly
Speaker 1: we love Palm Springs and we love that they came
Speaker 1: in there are in their sixties, living their twenties, and
Speaker 1: it's it's timeless. Everybody is soun damage like an old
Speaker 1: leather bag, but presenting the spirit of a sixteen year
Speaker 1: old girl. And we honestly like we wanted to contribute
Speaker 1: something that we felt like was like glaringly missing. And
Speaker 1: nobody's more sixties in California than Trixie, so it was like,
Speaker 1: this is it's perfect. We were looking at um, we're
Speaker 1: on Zillo, and I was looking at domestic like listings
Speaker 1: because I thought I'd just get a pink place and
Speaker 1: make it a house that's pink, and I put you know,
Speaker 1: and that motel showed up. Because it was zoned as condos,
Speaker 1: we didn't even look at other commercial properties. So it
Speaker 1: was like it was like fate, like the universe presented
Speaker 1: me with a seven room pink motel and I was like,
Speaker 1: it's a long shot. We just gotta look at it.
Speaker 1: I was like, let's just look at it. And so
Speaker 1: then you know, David went without me and looked. He
Speaker 1: was like, He's like, this place has like a magic.
Speaker 1: He was like, we have to do this. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, we've done a lot of weird things with
Speaker 1: Trixie over the years, like you know, the makeup company
Speaker 1: or O hims and stuff, but a motel was really
Speaker 1: a hard left. But once we started, I was like,
Speaker 1: this feels exactly trixy, Like it all makes sense, it all, yeah,
Speaker 1: because Tricksie is sort of the in addition to being
Speaker 1: blonde in California and sixties, she's sort of at her
Speaker 1: heart like an earnest capitalist, you know, in a fantasy,
Speaker 1: but she's a little bit Mickey Mouse where it's like
Speaker 1: it's earnest and it's also trying to sell you something.
Speaker 1: And but also with Paul Springs, again, I love Palm
Speaker 1: Springs and it was a rock and a hard place
Speaker 1: between the rental I didn't want to stay in or
Speaker 1: motel I don't want to stay and it was like, well,
Speaker 1: let's make something that is really going to gag the
Speaker 1: children and I every room my face, even though I
Speaker 1: knew what the designs were, and a lot of them
Speaker 1: I participated in making them, walking into them furnished. Every time.
Speaker 1: I was like, we are about to snap on all
Speaker 1: these homes. And there's there's something inherently vacation about Trixie too,
Speaker 1: like tricky, Like what in fact, wasn't one of your
Speaker 1: intro looks? Like as if she was, she wasn't you
Speaker 1: weren't where? Yeah, Like it was giving like I'm here
Speaker 1: for vacation, Like it really is like one of those
Speaker 1: things that it seems like you stumbled into because not
Speaker 1: only were all the opportunities there, but also it is
Speaker 1: one of those things where it's just like pretty perfect
Speaker 1: branding wise. Yeah. I mean, even the character of Barbies
Speaker 1: from a fictional small town in Wisconsin and moves to
Speaker 1: California like Malibi to pursue their dreams. So like even
Speaker 1: that to me was like, Okay, that's actually from small
Speaker 1: town Wisconsin and there's something about Trixie. Even though I'd
Speaker 1: never really Bend Upon Springs, by the time I started
Speaker 1: going there, it was like I went, I found the
Speaker 1: characters like home. It was like because everything sixties there, right,
Speaker 1: and so it feels like every room what your audio
Speaker 1: was well for a second and you were going m
Speaker 1: m and it went like this, it went like m M.
Speaker 1: That's when you were laughing. Can capture to roll it
Speaker 1: now play it now? YEA. But I also like, um,
Speaker 1: there's something it's it's also the paradox of being earnestly
Speaker 1: capitalist like Trixie, but Trixi is still a queer small business.
Speaker 1: So like it. It's not evil now, it's like I
Speaker 1: can give you something really cunty. And also part of
Speaker 1: the threads of drag is money. Someone comes out and drag,
Speaker 1: you give the money. It's part of the exchange. Is
Speaker 1: part of the art of drag is yeah. And then
Speaker 1: even like you know, we the motels and Palm Springs
Speaker 1: are priced. It's a vacation town in California. The motels
Speaker 1: for what they're priced, I just always felt like they
Speaker 1: weren't giving and so I was like, let's do something
Speaker 1: at this Palm Springs price point that actually is giving,
Speaker 1: not to mention every room is giving different, Like you
Speaker 1: are to get Malibu Barba is totally different than Atomic Bombshell.
Speaker 1: Atomic Bombshell is my favorite really there. Yeah, the colors
Speaker 1: are gorgeous an Atomic Bombshell. They're all really good. Malibu Barbara.
Speaker 1: I will say that I didn't anticipate that being a
Speaker 1: lot of people's favorites, but that was people's life. They
Speaker 1: love it. And then Atomic Bombshell we knew just because
Speaker 1: it was kind of boyish in a way. We were like,
Speaker 1: people are gonna love this. Yeah, yeah, is it genuinely
Speaker 1: close to Hunters and like all those places, Like is
Speaker 1: it like maybe maybe five minutes up the street? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you get to town and you take a right right there.
Speaker 1: It was listed as a condo, but then did you
Speaker 1: have to like go through rezoning ship for it to
Speaker 1: be like a commercial thing or no, No, it's listed
Speaker 1: as both. And if you watch the show, you'll notice
Speaker 1: a lot of our trials and tribulations have to do
Speaker 1: with permitting I mean a nightmare. Yeah. The mayor Palm
Speaker 1: Springs told me in an episode she said she was
Speaker 1: she's a former mayor. She was the first queer female mayor,
Speaker 1: I think in California, and she said, Palm Springs is
Speaker 1: like no place else and we want to keep it
Speaker 1: that way, which is why they are rigid. If you
Speaker 1: want to paint your front door and pump Springs, you
Speaker 1: need approval, the exact stade, everything. And when we painted
Speaker 1: the motel, the city said they didn't like it and
Speaker 1: they were gonna start finding us every month. And I said,
Speaker 1: well how, I said, how much is the fine? I
Speaker 1: don't care if it drains us like a swamp. I'm
Speaker 1: not changing the color of this motel. Is it currently
Speaker 1: draining you like a swamp? You know? They changed their mind,
Speaker 1: I think, but like, but there's a lot of things
Speaker 1: like for example, we removed one of the um We
Speaker 1: removed one of the drains in the in the pool
Speaker 1: and then found out that was code. So one day
Speaker 1: we woke up to a sign that said, like your
Speaker 1: in violation of the city's Then we had to drain
Speaker 1: the pool put in another drain. Little things you never
Speaker 1: think of. Our original idea was to put my eyes
Speaker 1: in a mirror on the bottom of the pool, but
Speaker 1: it's a safety hazard because it can obstruct the view
Speaker 1: of someone drowning, well strict honestly the music thing I
Speaker 1: was genuinely thinking about because I was like, if this
Speaker 1: has to be a silent thing like that, would that
Speaker 1: that I think we heard about the factory, we'll have
Speaker 1: disneyland rocks, and I'm that we're calling them disneyland rocks
Speaker 1: really making very happy, and the fact that they're on
Speaker 1: premises is is made. It's made well. I don't think
Speaker 1: you can go wild, like we can't do thump with thumpa.
Speaker 1: But like some of my dreams of the motel is
Speaker 1: to do appearances that not tell anyone. So it's particularly
Speaker 1: my dream is to like at nine am on a Sunday,
Speaker 1: bring my turntables out there and start deejaying and just
Speaker 1: have people like come out, come out, or like Dolly
Speaker 1: showing up to Dollywood. Yeah, like me and a maid
Speaker 1: outfit just cleaning rooms at day. I want people to
Speaker 1: be gagged like this person is really here. Because one
Speaker 1: thing we didn't have to inflate making the show was
Speaker 1: the stakes. This is our real money, This is a
Speaker 1: real business. Not to mention doing business with your partner
Speaker 1: introduces a lot of stress, introduces a lot of you
Speaker 1: really start to see the things you love about each
Speaker 1: other turn into the things you really start to the cracks.
Speaker 1: You see the cracks starting to show, and is go
Speaker 1: time on your relationship. That's why I always say couples
Speaker 1: should go on reality television to face the ultimate test.
Speaker 1: I've worked in hospitality, like through gay bars and stuff.
Speaker 1: I've been a delivery driver, a dishwasher, a server, a
Speaker 1: shot girl, and applying that like pre drag race working,
Speaker 1: and nobody mentions that pre drag race we are bar employees.
Speaker 1: We all work in hospitality. In post drag race. I've
Speaker 1: been to every gay bar on the planet. I've stayed
Speaker 1: in every motel and hotel in every city. So what
Speaker 1: better way to apply all that knowledge than to open
Speaker 1: like basically like a mini queer Dollywood and be like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna avenge all the wrongs I've ever been wrong
Speaker 1: in places by making it fierce, and of course, treat
Speaker 1: your employees like the ship you were treated. Really just
Speaker 1: drag them, yes what okay? This? It is hard to
Speaker 1: hire in Palm Springs. It's it's a town of the
Speaker 1: people on people on vacation, people who are retired, and
Speaker 1: there's quite a fierce drug problem in the Pump Springs,
Speaker 1: So it's not not everyone's resume is screaming out hire me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: their resume is just screaming because they're inside your house screaming,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, and the break ins, and I
Speaker 1: mean Palm Springs is stunning to look at, but it
Speaker 1: has its own social problems. I mean, California itself, in
Speaker 1: many areas, is a living, breathing human rights violation in
Speaker 1: Palm Springs is is not immune to that. So even
Speaker 1: hiring the right people, you know, it's almost like we
Speaker 1: finished the renovation and we wrapped the series and it
Speaker 1: was like, oh am, Dave and I are standing there
Speaker 1: in this literal palace where everything is perfect, and then
Speaker 1: we're like, we have to open this now to let
Speaker 1: people walk around in here. All my gay friends being
Speaker 1: like the way I'm going to come to your motel
Speaker 1: and fucking get plugged. I'm like, everybody's like threatening to
Speaker 1: defile the motel. Everyone's like the way I'm getting fisted
Speaker 1: in the like I'm like, okay, laid down a tarp
Speaker 1: or people are like friends they're going to steal and
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, Iggy is who in the series. She
Speaker 1: she was a former motel cleaner, and she comes into
Speaker 1: you can really make a bed that was hospital corners.
Speaker 1: She has the hospital quarters down. Yes, And that's the
Speaker 1: thing about anybody in entertainment. We all have some hospitality
Speaker 1: bones in us, right, because we all have done. And
Speaker 1: it was interesting watching Iggy, who is kind of a living,
Speaker 1: breathing Betty Boop or Angeline or something, watching her come
Speaker 1: in with this real world knowledge and she's just like, Oh,
Speaker 1: everything in your room, it's gonna get stolen. If it's
Speaker 1: not getting stolen, it's getting come on it. I'm like,
Speaker 1: holy shit. She's like, my biggest thing is have doubles
Speaker 1: of everything, and I'm like, everything, and here's one of
Speaker 1: a kind. Yeah, there's no doubles. You supposed to call
Speaker 1: Jonathan Adler and say, can you send me another four
Speaker 1: thousand dollar dresser please. Once you stay in a hotel,
Speaker 1: you realize how much come is all over everything, because
Speaker 1: when you're in the hotel room, you're the one producing
Speaker 1: to come. And I can never come more than when
Speaker 1: I'm in a hotel room. It's just sort of the
Speaker 1: truth of my life. And so to think that when
Speaker 1: I'm checking into a place and hasn't been absolutely desecrated
Speaker 1: by the pig that was in there before me. Is
Speaker 1: just it's just not the truth and not just my
Speaker 1: comb And also like I'm you know, people go to
Speaker 1: hotels and wipe their asses with towels, do you you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like people hotels are in a way,
Speaker 1: they're inviting you to do things that you weren't do
Speaker 1: in your own home. Yeah, because you don't have to
Speaker 1: deal with that after yes, And I hope that because
Speaker 1: I mean at this place you're basically sleeping in an
Speaker 1: art installation. I hope that we discourage people for being
Speaker 1: too gross. Um, but you never know, you never know.
Speaker 1: It wasn't Iggy the one on the show who is
Speaker 1: like people behave anonymously in these hotel rooms or in
Speaker 1: any hotel room because because they feel like they can.
Speaker 1: And that's why that that just like brings out every
Speaker 1: dark instinct in your in your mind absolutely. I mean
Speaker 1: it's like when you get and drag you become another person.
Speaker 1: When you did a hotel, it's weird because you're giving
Speaker 1: them your first and last name and your credit card
Speaker 1: on file. Why would that encourage you to act foolish
Speaker 1: and break things? And that feces on things. I don't know,
Speaker 1: you're not not not to mention. They have a way
Speaker 1: to financially charge you for your long doing so I
Speaker 1: don't know why we go so yellow hotels. The other day,
Speaker 1: I was in a hotel in Chicago, and I swear
Speaker 1: to god, it was pristine. It was like a nice hotel.
Speaker 1: I won't say where or what it was for, but
Speaker 1: it's pristine. And I look over and on the shower
Speaker 1: wall is just a clump of hair, like from one
Speaker 1: of those like scary movie. It was like insidious. It
Speaker 1: was like a clump of hair just like hanging on
Speaker 1: the wall, like like very much like a long haired
Speaker 1: woman was in the shower and like I don't know
Speaker 1: how this happened with her hair, but it was clumped
Speaker 1: on the wall, and it was just so shocking because
Speaker 1: everything else was an iggy azalea folded corner. Everything else
Speaker 1: was was like truly lickerty motherfucking split, And there was
Speaker 1: a chunk of hair on the wall and I was
Speaker 1: just looking at it like and I just stood in
Speaker 1: the shower and looked at it long enough where I
Speaker 1: was like, can I shower with this next to me?
Speaker 1: Or am I gonna have to not shower right now
Speaker 1: to call someone up and explain what this is and
Speaker 1: get this taken care of. Ultimately, I did stand in
Speaker 1: the shower next to the chunk, but I was not
Speaker 1: happy about it, and I actually never reported it. Well
Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't me, you know, but also I
Speaker 1: mean it could mean, it could be anyone. But listen
Speaker 1: with people with long hair have about as much understanding
Speaker 1: of how crazy and gross their hair is as smokers
Speaker 1: do of how much they smell like smoke. Smokers are like,
Speaker 1: oh I had a mint. I'm like, okay, so now
Speaker 1: you smell like someone shoved a tic tac in the
Speaker 1: end of a burning cigarette. Like you smell this you
Speaker 1: Still when I worked at the mac counter, I remember
Speaker 1: my stency manager. She would, um, I just I've never
Speaker 1: really understood smoking, and I guess when I was younger,
Speaker 1: I didn't really know. You don't never know if you're
Speaker 1: talking to a smoker when you say something, right, So
Speaker 1: I remember she was like, do you smoke at the interview?
Speaker 1: And I said no, like I said it like yeah.
Speaker 1: I was like no, and she was like, well some
Speaker 1: of us do, so just like you know, And I
Speaker 1: remember she was. She was one of those smokers, like
Speaker 1: every hour, right, every hour, And I feel sort of
Speaker 1: up and down about the ethics of smoking at work,
Speaker 1: and like, if I want to go kick rocks outside
Speaker 1: once an hour, I should be sucking out to too, right.
Speaker 1: But if you are doing someone to makeup, you're touching
Speaker 1: their face. You're touching their face, and you're like, well
Speaker 1: it a minute, Mary, Mary, your hands, your hands, it's
Speaker 1: hammer time, bitch, Like wash that hair, um, come back
Speaker 1: in a towel. It went. It's one of the things
Speaker 1: about cigarettes used as a lead is a lingering thing
Speaker 1: that no one can say that it does have an
Speaker 1: odor at least. And now I work with Katya, so like,
Speaker 1: you know, I've seen fire and right as far as
Speaker 1: smoking at least is the only one I know who
Speaker 1: like is a smoker. And she's like, yeah, the smell.
Speaker 1: She's like, I know, it's hor you know it's you
Speaker 1: have to read it. Get it doesn't It doesn't help, sure,
Speaker 1: but acknowledging it does not solve the problem. Sorry. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just happy with her that smoking is the most
Speaker 1: self If she if that's her biggest self destruction that day,
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, yeah, I got on. I got on
Speaker 1: about his cigarette smoking, but then he does not anymore.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry for just monologuing about that in front
Speaker 1: of you. Do you see what I mean? Trust me,
Speaker 1: But identifying as a smoker also like means that you
Speaker 1: just have to take it like a champ. Whenever someone
Speaker 1: like goes into a diet tribe about how bad smoking
Speaker 1: it is, because we know you know that it's awful.
Speaker 1: I also drink, and it's like, well, you can't be
Speaker 1: in illusions about that either, right, like drinking right right?
Speaker 1: If if you got drunk the night before, you definitely
Speaker 1: don't smell good the next morning. Both that takes you
Speaker 1: back to college. Remember this one kid, Like we would
Speaker 1: go to ballet like eight thirty in the morning on
Speaker 1: a Friday, and people would smell like Thursday, thirsty Thursday,
Speaker 1: and you would smell like the beer coming out of
Speaker 1: their pores. And you're like, I've been that person. I
Speaker 1: was that person when I was younger. And that's because
Speaker 1: it's like it's like and that's why I like always
Speaker 1: like check myself after I do get on. But one
Speaker 1: about a smoking because then when we were in the pines,
Speaker 1: like like this last time I was pretty much smoking
Speaker 1: cigarettes all day every day, like, and I find I
Speaker 1: don't know about that, but when you do smoke a lot,
Speaker 1: when you're smoking, like you there is like when you're smoking,
Speaker 1: you're helping a lot. And so that week, that week,
Speaker 1: I don't know why I filed it away in my
Speaker 1: brain like this is gonna be my cigarette week. And
Speaker 1: I literally have not since and don't have a desire to.
Speaker 1: But I will say like I understood for a second
Speaker 1: the thing of needing to literally blow off steam. And
Speaker 1: the only time I got into a little altercation with someone,
Speaker 1: I was smoking a cigarette. And I think, honestly, that's
Speaker 1: enough for me to be like, no, it makes you
Speaker 1: like one of those bitches who sits there and smokes
Speaker 1: and fights like you can't smoke cigarettes. There's something about
Speaker 1: like the glamor and attitude of it for me that
Speaker 1: I literal really started in with our friend James Scully
Speaker 1: on something he said I like to pop off at
Speaker 1: him and he was like, are we doing housewives right now?
Speaker 1: And I was like, I literally stopped myself immediately. I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I don't know what. I think. It's
Speaker 1: the cigarette. I'm so sorry, Oh my god, Like two
Speaker 1: puffs in your like three to one. I just think
Speaker 1: it's funny. I just think it's funny. Is like the
Speaker 1: most toxic anything? Like well, I literally said to him
Speaker 1: the line I said was and it was a Housewives
Speaker 1: line was it was everything was going fine until you
Speaker 1: said that stupid ship. And he was like, oh, are
Speaker 1: we doing Housewives? And I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. Now, oh my god. It was like
Speaker 1: a refer madness, but like anti smoking, like that for
Speaker 1: anti smoking, like somebody snapping, and it's almost like the
Speaker 1: you become a real diva when you're hungry commercial bit, Yeah,
Speaker 1: like you having two puffs of a cigarette and then
Speaker 1: like a Housewives like like throwing wine glass and smashing it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I haven't been keeping up with the program.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm allowed to It has about
Speaker 1: the Bravo pilot I did. No, I don't know if
Speaker 1: I'm allowed to say this, but I'm just gonna say it.
Speaker 1: So during COVID, I had the pleasure of being part
Speaker 1: of a pilot that was supposed to be a show
Speaker 1: that was going to have housewives and different franchises um
Speaker 1: competing and food and drinks sort of nailed its style
Speaker 1: challenges against each other different franchises, being like today you
Speaker 1: have to cook this food, you have to make this drink,
Speaker 1: and you have to set the table, and then judges
Speaker 1: will like decide who was the ultimate housewife and I
Speaker 1: didn't have everything Elsewives, And that's when I started texting
Speaker 1: you math that. I was like, I'm watching Housewives for
Speaker 1: the first time. Um, so then I had to binge
Speaker 1: a bunch of it. And that's how I even found
Speaker 1: out who Lisa was, because I didn't when I met her.
Speaker 1: I did never see it. I remember when you were
Speaker 1: watching the early seasons Everly Hills and you were you
Speaker 1: were sort of falling in love with Lisa as you
Speaker 1: were working with her in real life, and it seems
Speaker 1: like that actually is a warm, good relationship, which makes
Speaker 1: me like l VP more oh lvps, real bitch friend.
Speaker 1: I haven't, and you know, she's a drag queen entirely,
Speaker 1: but it was weird knowing her and then reading her
Speaker 1: origin story at the same time. It was like, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: but if you're saying, oh, there, I hope it sees
Speaker 1: the light of day and I hope to get in trouble.
Speaker 1: But there was an housewife, Karen Huger from Potomac, and
Speaker 1: we got to do an episode with her, and you
Speaker 1: don't think we'll ever see the light of day. Um,
Speaker 1: let's just say allegedly this allegedly happened. What happened, And
Speaker 1: let's say allegedly she had to cook food and uh
Speaker 1: started her kitchen on fire during the episode. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that Karen. That needs to be on television because that
Speaker 1: is And now I'm thinking, now I'm thinking what she
Speaker 1: looks like in my mind trying to put out a
Speaker 1: fire in the kitchen. And it's TV. It's Frasier the show.
Speaker 1: And that's how funny it is. It's as funny as
Speaker 1: sure well it's I think that in housewives world there's
Speaker 1: no happy media. There's the women who cooking is their
Speaker 1: art almost and there's the women who are like, I
Speaker 1: can't turn the stove on. It's no medium, it's no media,
Speaker 1: you know. And I guess, especially through the business creating
Speaker 1: the motel business, that's something Banner Pope is a really
Speaker 1: good resource on because she, you know, does the men
Speaker 1: use at her restaurants like does the drink menuse a
Speaker 1: it's a bar, it's going to be a bar for
Speaker 1: the guests, and then we will work out some sort
Speaker 1: of like food from other places program, because I mean,
Speaker 1: if you want, you know, you have to have the
Speaker 1: square footage. Palm Springs is small. Are property small? You
Speaker 1: can't even build new structures from the curb. I had
Speaker 1: to learn all the rules of Palm Springs. WHOA, I
Speaker 1: love Palm Springs. Where do you guys like to go
Speaker 1: when you're there? I mean, see bone hasn't gone as
Speaker 1: much as I've got my favorite bar there as quads.
Speaker 1: I love quads. I love screaming along to musical theater.
Speaker 1: I took you there right bow. Yeah, it was fun.
Speaker 1: And this is why I also like what is it
Speaker 1: show tune Sundays in the Pines? Like I love anything
Speaker 1: where faggots can get together and scream these these stupid songs,
Speaker 1: Like I want to see a bunch of faggots like
Speaker 1: scream along to somewhere that scream exactly, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And then when it gets a little too
Speaker 1: weird and everyone's like huh, Like I love those moments
Speaker 1: where it's like this, it's it's not even like all
Speaker 1: that jazz. It's class from Chicago, you know, what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's like it's the seasides, and I love it. I
Speaker 1: love it when it gets weird at those things. I
Speaker 1: love a show tune in a bar I do or
Speaker 1: like they put on the Jennifer Hudson. I'm telling you
Speaker 1: I'm not going, and some fag it's like it's sho
Speaker 1: about the Jennifer you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, there There
Speaker 1: is nothing like somewhere that's green coming on and every
Speaker 1: bunch of loud fags and like crying and then going
Speaker 1: back to like second cock at the bar, like good,
Speaker 1: like did I hear row next time? And you're like, okay,
Speaker 1: now we're here. Whoa a little I kind of have
Speaker 1: turned on musical theater and but um Little Shop of
Speaker 1: Horrors is my all time favorite, and it loves it
Speaker 1: gives what it needs to give. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you guys have ever read the libretto of that. It
Speaker 1: reads like surgery. Like she says this line. She takes
Speaker 1: two steps and then turns and says this line. Which
Speaker 1: is why every performance of it, in production of it,
Speaker 1: no matter with the scale, is base level good because
Speaker 1: the music and its storytelling is good, so it's not
Speaker 1: relying on a star or a big budget it's just
Speaker 1: a good story with good music, with good jokes. It's
Speaker 1: Howard Ashman. It's like it's so good, like the writing is.
Speaker 1: Then you realize it is Howard Ashman and you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: of course this is genius Tricksie Conrad Rick Amora from
Speaker 1: the movie like did um the off Broadway um one
Speaker 1: that's on now and it's over. But he was stunning,
Speaker 1: And that was the last time I've seen it. But
Speaker 1: it really is good every time. I will say it
Speaker 1: does get a little too fucking weird for me in
Speaker 1: terms of the plot, like an act too, I'm sort
Speaker 1: of just like get crazy crazy. I mean Act one though,
Speaker 1: is like perfect, but Act two story wise for me,
Speaker 1: like it gets weird, but that music is truly you
Speaker 1: saw it's unbelievable. And I remember, not to be a nerd,
Speaker 1: but I wrote when I was in college during musical
Speaker 1: theater history, I had to do like a big, big
Speaker 1: deg dive on a musical and of course I picked
Speaker 1: that one. And like I remember watching a video interview
Speaker 1: of Ellen Green saying that like she was thinking she
Speaker 1: kind of got the role, and she was pretty sure
Speaker 1: she got it, and they were kind of like creating
Speaker 1: the role and kind of casting her. But she said
Speaker 1: the first time, she's saying somewhere that's green her Alan
Speaker 1: and Howard sat and cried afterwards because I think that
Speaker 1: she knew and they knew, like they just created like
Speaker 1: a mask, because she created it as much as they did,
Speaker 1: you know. And of course, and you guys know a
Speaker 1: few years ago, she's just doing it with um Toby,
Speaker 1: not Jake Dylan Hall, I mean fucking icon dude, and
Speaker 1: like playing a character like that that's basically like a
Speaker 1: Betty Boop inflation, but rooted and like real real, like
Speaker 1: it's real. I remember it's so annoying, but I hate
Speaker 1: musical theater. But when I was in college, I remember
Speaker 1: they were like, you're playing things real and unrealistic scenarios
Speaker 1: and like horrors is exactly that it's real for them. Yeah. Oh,
Speaker 1: I recently watched Watchman for the first time, the series,
Speaker 1: and it's like that too, where it's like inflated situations
Speaker 1: but they played like real. Yeah. Matt still hasn't watched,
Speaker 1: and I've been imploring Matt to watch it for years.
Speaker 1: At this point, It's isn't Jeane smart? That was like
Speaker 1: the first moment for you where I was like Regine
Speaker 1: Smart was making this comeback, and I was like, funk,
Speaker 1: I've missed Jean Smart so much. She is so damn
Speaker 1: good in Nut Show and Regina Kang obviously, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean this isn't you, but GAY mean in general,
Speaker 1: we love a woman when she's brand new and young,
Speaker 1: and we love her old, right yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: People a couple of years ago were like, I fucking
Speaker 1: always love Laura during I'm like, for two decades you didn't, Yeah,
Speaker 1: where were you? Where were you during the dark days?
Speaker 1: Where were you during distant times where the Hollywood wouldn't
Speaker 1: even answer the phone for Laura when you're sixty, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like you better be twenty and
Speaker 1: wet or a death store. It's actually quite queer, I
Speaker 1: would say to um stand someone in their middle career,
Speaker 1: middle era, like I am newly obsessed with Melanie Lynskey,
Speaker 1: Melanie Lynsky, and now that I'm watching Yellow Jackets finally
Speaker 1: I'm like, Wow, I'm upset. I will watch every single
Speaker 1: interview you do. I will listen to that crazy Kiwi accent.
Speaker 1: She's so damn good. I love her she's so much
Speaker 1: genuinely one of the best actresses working. I mean that
Speaker 1: she she can do anything, and she has and that's
Speaker 1: what I love about like an actress like that popping
Speaker 1: off is just that, like thank God, Like that's why
Speaker 1: you stick with it? Is this so that you can
Speaker 1: one day look back like she could literally get like
Speaker 1: lifetime and she even award honestly with everything that she's
Speaker 1: done under the radar and now the ar. I hope
Speaker 1: she wins the Emmy. Like I know, people I love
Speaker 1: like so many other of those I guess nominees, but
Speaker 1: like come on, give it up. Yeah, I mean it's like,
Speaker 1: um people like like means you're like, wow, she's in,
Speaker 1: but I'm a cheerleader, or like she's in Come Obama.
Speaker 1: She said, she's been in everything. Yeah, I mean, have
Speaker 1: you guys ever seen Heavenly Creatures, which was her movie
Speaker 1: that she was in with Kate Winslet when she was
Speaker 1: like they were teenagers and basically it's Peter Jackson and
Speaker 1: they play these like girls who are best friends in
Speaker 1: New Zealand and they're like they end up like killing
Speaker 1: their parents. It's it's there's like they kill somebody. Um,
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it in a really a long time,
Speaker 1: but it's like very intense and it's Melanie Lynsky and
Speaker 1: Kate Winslett, and I remember there was like an interview
Speaker 1: at some point that was like heavenly creature. This was
Speaker 1: an incredible experience. But it was really hard to see
Speaker 1: her then become Kate Winslet and I was still like,
Speaker 1: you know, doing my thing and like you know that movie,
Speaker 1: like they were equally acclaimed, like and it was just
Speaker 1: like that moment when you realize, like, oh, I'm a
Speaker 1: character actress. I'm not this leading lady. Like it's going
Speaker 1: to be the hard yards for me and the years
Speaker 1: for me. And to see her now like get this
Speaker 1: moment is like, yes, thank God, there's gonna be a
Speaker 1: couple of years where I'm updating my own Wikipedia, you know.
Speaker 1: But you know I always think that, not to bring
Speaker 1: it back to I mean, I worshiped her. I always
Speaker 1: think of RuPaul because she basically, and this is said
Speaker 1: with love, she was like this huge, massive star right
Speaker 1: icon and then for like a decade, not entertainment, not
Speaker 1: doing anything, punchline almost yeah, and then she showed up
Speaker 1: and she basically told a whole generation of people in
Speaker 1: case she forgot I am the most famous drig queen
Speaker 1: of all time, and the newest generation said yes you
Speaker 1: are when really like this is a complete comp meant
Speaker 1: and I hope nobody you know you You could have
Speaker 1: said RuPaul at one time, you could have said it
Speaker 1: was like a cultural flash. Really it's like a one
Speaker 1: hit wonder. But same with Michelle. Like Michelle was in Seduction,
Speaker 1: which I read her book before I did quit the universe.
Speaker 1: I read her book because I don't know Michelle that well,
Speaker 1: and I said, I gotta go home with something. She's
Speaker 1: best friends with all these drag queens and I don't
Speaker 1: even know, we don't have that kind of friendship, and
Speaker 1: I gotta have something to talk to her about. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna read her book. Um. And like she's in Seduction,
Speaker 1: which toured for like two years, major hits, giant festivals,
Speaker 1: and she's in such a bad contract with this girl
Speaker 1: group that she she literally tours for two years and
Speaker 1: leaves with nothing, no money, nothing, she's owner Masters, and
Speaker 1: then she has like a slow build through radio and
Speaker 1: now she's a huge, massive star again. And I always
Speaker 1: think of them as like, um, when I used to
Speaker 1: listen to the What's the t the RuPaul podcast, they
Speaker 1: would talk about how an entertainment you have to mentally
Speaker 1: be ready for ebbs and flows because it's the only
Speaker 1: way to be resilient. I mean, but you also can't
Speaker 1: sit there and wonder, am I in the apex of
Speaker 1: my career? Am I in the beginning? Am I currently
Speaker 1: in the end of it? Because that's not helpful. And
Speaker 1: I think somebody like Mellie Lynskey, they probably just at
Speaker 1: the time we're like, well, I'm gonna do my best
Speaker 1: work and just try to do my best pok and
Speaker 1: who knows, you know, she had been Yellow Jackets, we
Speaker 1: would have been like, why hasn't she act anymore? Even
Speaker 1: if she was currently acting, you know, totally totally um
Speaker 1: speaking of her, Paul, have you publicly made any statements
Speaker 1: about UM this season or the winner? At least I
Speaker 1: just found out yesterday, you know. I mean, everybody knows this.
Speaker 1: If I'm not doing pit Stop, I don't watch drivers.
Speaker 1: Everybody knows this, so I don't feel bad saying it.
Speaker 1: And I couldn't do pit Stop because of Trixie motel
Speaker 1: and scheduling. They're basically like you would have to watch
Speaker 1: the whole season in like two days, and he's like,
Speaker 1: there's no way you are thing. I pride myself on
Speaker 1: elevating the pit Stop. I must watch post and I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna say whatever. But I love them both though,
Speaker 1: and um, I love doing the pit Stop. I'll say
Speaker 1: this that everybody can drag me. I'm obsessed with all
Speaker 1: those winners. They are all amazing. When it comes to Jinks,
Speaker 1: we are comparing Superman too a room full of Batman's.
Speaker 1: Everybody's amazing, but Jinks is unbelievable and as far as
Speaker 1: talent potent talent, she's as funny as anyone, as anyone.
Speaker 1: She can sing her face off, like you can lose
Speaker 1: to Jinks lose and be like I gave age, but
Speaker 1: I gave you know. Yeah. But even though okay, and
Speaker 1: even if you didn't watch the season, like Trickie, she
Speaker 1: was like clearly the front runner the whole time, and
Speaker 1: yet she was still this compelling reality TV character that
Speaker 1: you would watch and she would be like very endearing
Speaker 1: in the workroom, be like I don't know what I'm doing,
Speaker 1: Like she was very relatable even in her stature, Like
Speaker 1: it was so interesting and I loved it the whole time. Anyway,
Speaker 1: we're very happy that she won. No, I gotta watch it.
Speaker 1: I gotta watch it because it's really good. It's really good.
Speaker 1: She really does a great job. And the thing too,
Speaker 1: like there's of course going to be controversy whenever it's
Speaker 1: like the winner gets named, especially when everyone's this good
Speaker 1: and like it's a lip sync that determines the result.
Speaker 1: But like a lot of people have been on like
Speaker 1: like like sort of upset about the fact that we
Speaker 1: are deciding the winner with these lip syncs if they're
Speaker 1: not going to quote unquote matter. And I'm like at
Speaker 1: that point, I'm like, Wow, this fan base really goes
Speaker 1: in on the rules for All Stars. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a drag show and it's all stars RuPaul Dragons,
Speaker 1: where all you're gonna have fun. Like the people online
Speaker 1: like dictating it, like it's like like calling flag on
Speaker 1: the play. It is so funny to me because it's drag.
Speaker 1: It's like everyone gets a chance to shine, someone get money,
Speaker 1: They all get paid to be on the show. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't have to tell you guys that I understand
Speaker 1: what it's like for the audience to get mad when
Speaker 1: you win based on the rules. Like So it's also
Speaker 1: funny because it's it's a room full of people who
Speaker 1: have won. These people don't even care if they in
Speaker 1: that much. I mean, let's be hones. These people have
Speaker 1: all one. These people have all proved that and this
Speaker 1: is also maybe shady. These people have all proved that
Speaker 1: have winning also doesn't guarantee you a massive career. So
Speaker 1: some of them have proved that winning is sort of
Speaker 1: it just happened, and that's it. It's all of them individually.
Speaker 1: I've talked to all of them individually, and all of
Speaker 1: them said I had the best time and probably they
Speaker 1: should all be. And everybody's saying this is the best season.
Speaker 1: It's like the ultimate season. I just would you do
Speaker 1: all winners if they did it again? If they ask
Speaker 1: no ever, not a gun to my head, just because
Speaker 1: you really don't want to compete period at all. And
Speaker 1: I'm also like not good at I mean, part of
Speaker 1: being a star is knowing if you can't do fancakes,
Speaker 1: don't raise your hand and say, let me do my fancake,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like I would not do well.
Speaker 1: And some of those people are just flat out like
Speaker 1: better drag queens than most people. I'm gonna doing tricksie,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to do in drag race, you know,
Speaker 1: And I mean maybe it's cowardly, but I don't want
Speaker 1: to do it because it's the school and I wouldn't do. Well, no,
Speaker 1: you don't need it. I mean like it has not
Speaker 1: limited you. It has not limited you know, and like
Speaker 1: needing it. Honestly, watching the girls say they had so
Speaker 1: much fun, that makes me want to do it because
Speaker 1: it's almost like, well, I want to go to summer camp,
Speaker 1: like yeah, and I want to go of course, like
Speaker 1: it's a fun opportunity and you do get to look
Speaker 1: incredible and show yourself doing talent when it's an area
Speaker 1: that you really want to flex in. But ultimately it's
Speaker 1: like even, well, I guess the thing is like they
Speaker 1: must have said something to them because you have to
Speaker 1: imagine that other queens do feel similarly to you, which
Speaker 1: is like, well if I come back, like, are you
Speaker 1: gonna make me looking stupid? Because that's what a reality
Speaker 1: show is, and like you do it to the all
Speaker 1: Stars all the time, like am I gonna come and
Speaker 1: show one look? So they had to come and say
Speaker 1: like you will be in every episode we will I
Speaker 1: imagine they did approach you. They did well. They said, hey, uh,
Speaker 1: and then you tell me not to tell me once.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say it. They said, hey, we're doing
Speaker 1: we are doing it all winners, and we know you
Speaker 1: don't really want to do it, but you're in the
Speaker 1: family and we don't want you to feel excluded. Like
Speaker 1: if you want to do it, We're just want to
Speaker 1: extend the invitation. You know you're gonna say no. And
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, I'm gonna say no. But I said,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for inviting me. You know, because
Speaker 1: when I want to do something, I always do a
Speaker 1: celebrity drag race the holidays. Like when I want to
Speaker 1: do it, I always do it. But I just didn't
Speaker 1: want to do it. I said, I appreciate you guys
Speaker 1: asking because you know I love doing and like I
Speaker 1: consider myself a WOW employee full time. Anyway, girl, I mean,
Speaker 1: I love dragons and I turned up the world of Wonder.
Speaker 1: I think they've just I mean they don't they don't
Speaker 1: give themselves flowers, but they really changed the world. I
Speaker 1: mean they changed the world. I wouldn't have anything if
Speaker 1: they wouldn't have basically created an industry for me to
Speaker 1: participate in. You know. The other thing is, uh, in
Speaker 1: reality television, you can't tell people. There's no standard claus right,
Speaker 1: So even if even if they didn't tell anyone, we're
Speaker 1: gonna make everyone look talented. Yeah, drag race. If this,
Speaker 1: if this, if the American Idol said these winners are
Speaker 1: the best singers in the world, there's no way you
Speaker 1: would come back and you would ever make any of
Speaker 1: you look incompetent because then you're only more of the show.
Speaker 1: So even if you flop, you're gonna flop relatively, but
Speaker 1: you're not gonna flop like, Wow, you should have never won,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? That's that's not what you
Speaker 1: should have never won. That should have said that's everyone
Speaker 1: if you didn't win, I guess what we have said
Speaker 1: you was Wow. We're really rethinking a lot, and it's
Speaker 1: it's also sort of a study. What I like about
Speaker 1: it isn't again I haven't watched it. What I like
Speaker 1: about it is it's a little bit Hunger Games quarter Quell.
Speaker 1: It's a little bit um Yeah it is. Yeah, where
Speaker 1: it's people who are the best at their own thing
Speaker 1: and we're throwing them into hypotheticals and just for fun,
Speaker 1: we're going to compare and contrast. But nobody's better or
Speaker 1: worse than anyone. So does that not convince you to
Speaker 1: go back? Then? No? I mean it's you, guys. Drag
Speaker 1: race is really hard. Nobody talks about it. Of course,
Speaker 1: it's really physically mentally hard. And I operate best in
Speaker 1: an environment where I do whatever I want and nobody
Speaker 1: evaluates me. And drag race is doing what you're told
Speaker 1: and having it evaluated. It's also like literally giving up
Speaker 1: your phone for a long time like that. Well, but beriod,
Speaker 1: the way you connect and communicate with other people, like
Speaker 1: and the way that the fact that that's like such
Speaker 1: a part of it, they take it from you. The
Speaker 1: fact that you can't know what the news is. You
Speaker 1: can't know top news, you can't know that President Biden
Speaker 1: has contracted COVID. Yeah, I mean, you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: you don't get to read the trades. You get to
Speaker 1: read the trades, you don't know You're not gonna know
Speaker 1: what happens with Emma Watson next. Yeah, and not to
Speaker 1: be ghost too, but it's also um money. I mean,
Speaker 1: like even All Stars three, when I wont even winning.
Speaker 1: I think I lost money doing it because of the
Speaker 1: cancel and a two million dollar investment in the show.
Speaker 1: I was like, well, this makes that one hundred thousand
Speaker 1: dollars seem like chumper change. Yeah, it's hard, and you know,
Speaker 1: part of what makes Drag Race good is that the
Speaker 1: contestants are expected to basically imagine if you were cast
Speaker 1: in the Superhero movie and it was your job to
Speaker 1: bring the costume and especially with them, right, So it's
Speaker 1: actually it's actually any of those queens really, I mean,
Speaker 1: those any of those drag queens could wipe the floor
Speaker 1: with me. That I'm fine with. I'm fine with not
Speaker 1: doing as well as other people. But the work, you guys,
Speaker 1: I have nightmares the preparation process of getting me Cortina.
Speaker 1: I don't even aspire to doing that good of dry
Speaker 1: the runways this season. I would always watch the runways
Speaker 1: and I'd be like, yeah, I wouldn't even know who
Speaker 1: to call for me, right right, It's truly wild. Preparation
Speaker 1: is like the most stressful part is the most stressful
Speaker 1: part period preparation for for anything, absolutely, like the anticipation
Speaker 1: and oh god, I hate rehearsing, Like are you guys
Speaker 1: rehearsals queens, absolutely not yes, And now I literally have
Speaker 1: to go to a rehearsal after this, and I'm really
Speaker 1: so scared. I hate rehearsal. Scared, honestly, Like I always like,
Speaker 1: I'm rehearsing on Tuesday for something and it takes up
Speaker 1: of my brain right now for scaring to even rehearse um.
Speaker 1: But once you do it, I'm always grateful and I
Speaker 1: do sometimes enjoy the process, but it's getting there, and like, yeah,
Speaker 1: the mental like gymnastics, I believe in like going on,
Speaker 1: going in off book and all that. I believe in
Speaker 1: knowing your ship, but I don't believe in pounding it
Speaker 1: until you hate it and then because you guys just
Speaker 1: stand up right, Yeah, not really, but yeah kind of.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you go in two under rehearsed, but because you're
Speaker 1: on that, like Razor Tanya Harding Blade, you actually perform
Speaker 1: better because you're like a little bit hysterics that you're
Speaker 1: not prepared. Right. So, I don't know. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's bogus when people say I do my best work
Speaker 1: last minute, I'm like, no, that's not true, mother, But
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. I don't know You've just procrastinated,
Speaker 1: that's all like that, like that that's what that means.
Speaker 1: And someone says that you do their best for a
Speaker 1: class minute. Yeah, and it's also it's like a humble brag.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I don't need to put in the time,
Speaker 1: okay girl. Yeah, especially with stand up, it's like there's
Speaker 1: something in the address to Lena having a trust ball
Speaker 1: that does make you perform a little better. M And
Speaker 1: there's something and knowing your ship that makes you perform better.
Speaker 1: It's the balance, right. I always feel like it's just
Speaker 1: great to know how like when I've been out there,
Speaker 1: I've been trying to get out there again and it's
Speaker 1: just like you really have to keep up your skills,
Speaker 1: like learning how to communicate with an audience. And that's
Speaker 1: the only thing that's like, you know, the pandemic like
Speaker 1: sort of like that is something that you miss, like
Speaker 1: just that thing as a performer of just knowing like
Speaker 1: I I have this down enough and like I'm still
Speaker 1: speaking the same language as the audience, but I'm feeling
Speaker 1: like it's still spontaneous and natural. Yes, but it is.
Speaker 1: You do need the reps for that, but that's not rehearsal, honey,
Speaker 1: And honestly, if like that, that's you get something out
Speaker 1: of that. Were preparing to rehearses, just preparing to like
Speaker 1: stand in front of one other musician and be like, Okay, hello,
Speaker 1: there's that thing too have like needing the musical director
Speaker 1: or whoever it is, like the director of whoever it is,
Speaker 1: like your people you're going to be working with, Like
Speaker 1: what are they going to bring? Yeah, I'm sure you
Speaker 1: guys feel this any anything live and especially us you know,
Speaker 1: I can't imagine, but like, you trust yourself to go
Speaker 1: out there. You know the material, and you trust yourself
Speaker 1: to go out there blind. So whatever happens in the middle,
Speaker 1: you're like, why do I scare myself so much? I
Speaker 1: trust myself to go out there and deal with it. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: doesn't know, it's it's it's that ideally, by the time
Speaker 1: it's Saturday, you are on that razor's edge and you've
Speaker 1: prepared just enough for it to feel somewhat spontaneous and new,
Speaker 1: and it's not. It's it's still the novelty is still there.
Speaker 1: But I will say I just I got I got
Speaker 1: chills just thinking about it now. The moment that you
Speaker 1: were in the chair on Weekend Update before you get
Speaker 1: pushed out the scariest feeling I've ever felt in my life.
Speaker 1: And it's it never gets easier, it's only it's only
Speaker 1: the most terrifying sensation. Oh, I hate it so much,
Speaker 1: and yet it's like part of the joy of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it also has to be the fact that you're literally
Speaker 1: getting pushed. Is that a little bit of it, Like
Speaker 1: that they're gonna thrust you out there, and like and
Speaker 1: you have and you have, you have a marked to hit.
Speaker 1: You have a marked hit on the desk. There's tape
Speaker 1: like you have a marked to hit at the desk
Speaker 1: and you have to catch yourself. I do love the
Speaker 1: make end Update slide. I love that little thing when
Speaker 1: someone comes out and might have to find themselves like
Speaker 1: and also I love when a performer can incorporate it,
Speaker 1: like when when Cecily as the late the Late Ivana
Speaker 1: Trump comes out and she's like, ah and she's like
Speaker 1: a little drunk, like she incorporates the weekend Update slide
Speaker 1: and Dirk character. And I know you guys probably trying
Speaker 1: to make it seem like it's not much travel. To me,
Speaker 1: it looks like that chair sliding ten feet. It's like
Speaker 1: next and you see this person who travel you know,
Speaker 1: also she's talking to my friend about this. We're talking
Speaker 1: about um like DJA or whatever. I feel like I
Speaker 1: used to think I can't wait to do the show
Speaker 1: and then find out if it's a good show afterward,
Speaker 1: Like decide afterward if I didn't where it's like insane,
Speaker 1: you decide what kind of show it is before it
Speaker 1: even starts. Yeah, like really yeah, I can't say it's
Speaker 1: gonna be great and then it is great. You don't
Speaker 1: find out. I'm I'm writing this down. I mean it is.
Speaker 1: I mean that that that what I try to remind
Speaker 1: myself of is like when you do gole up there,
Speaker 1: it's going to be a moment in time and it's
Speaker 1: gonna go how it's gonna go, and then you're gonna
Speaker 1: keep living your life and literally no one's going to
Speaker 1: think about it except for you, if you even let yourself.
Speaker 1: So just go out there and enjoy the moment, let
Speaker 1: it be, and then like understand that you know, it's
Speaker 1: not that big of a deal, like it's not that deep.
Speaker 1: But that also varies. And I think it means to
Speaker 1: pray for like a good performance or a good show,
Speaker 1: sort of like you hope the weather is good, like
Speaker 1: I hope tonight's good. How are they out there? Are
Speaker 1: they feeling it? And then I would ask the performance
Speaker 1: in front of me how they are honestly, not to
Speaker 1: be psychotic. I just think recently, I'm like how they
Speaker 1: are before I got up There has nothing to do
Speaker 1: with you, Like I decide what kind of show they
Speaker 1: are about to have, which is why late at night
Speaker 1: when you blame the audience and late at night when
Speaker 1: you're in bed you're like it was me. I especially
Speaker 1: in comedy, because you have to come out there shooting
Speaker 1: lasers and tell them exactly what's happening, you know, And
Speaker 1: it's almost like freeing to be like, wow, I can
Speaker 1: decide that I'm gonna have a good show. I don't
Speaker 1: have to hope it's good. And also a way that
Speaker 1: you can like feel the way that you can agree
Speaker 1: to make that decision and not have it be about
Speaker 1: like you, which is that like, if you are having fun,
Speaker 1: they're going to have fun, so you may as well,
Speaker 1: because that's literally the hack. You could go out there
Speaker 1: and be not great, but if you were having fun
Speaker 1: doing it and enjoying doing it. People are at least
Speaker 1: going to be like, well, we were glad to see them,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like like afterwards, they're not
Speaker 1: going to be like, what a waste of our time
Speaker 1: because you came out here, didn't know your stuff and
Speaker 1: we're bad energy. Like at least bring the good energy.
Speaker 1: And then most of the time you can fool them
Speaker 1: if your ship was you know, a B plus that time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and on top of that, if you do everything you
Speaker 1: meant to do out there but you don't have fun,
Speaker 1: there's a glass ceiling of how good it can really be. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I guess I mean I don't have to tell
Speaker 1: you guys this, but I guess it's like for me,
Speaker 1: it's how many years I've been performing and I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm just now realizing, like good shows don't happen
Speaker 1: to us, Like look we we we make the show
Speaker 1: good before we decide that before we go out there.
Speaker 1: And that's the key. You know what, When I quit
Speaker 1: drag and motels, the way, I'm going to be the
Speaker 1: Tony Robbins like tricksy and like, yes, if I get
Speaker 1: to again, which I would love to do another full summer,
Speaker 1: I would love to do a headset wind pants, like
Speaker 1: Tony Robbins, like the Secret of You, like the Secret
Speaker 1: of Success. That should be your next special. Honestly, you
Speaker 1: doing a Tony Robbins thing. Should that would be so
Speaker 1: funny like power points and almost like but I'm weirdly
Speaker 1: selling time shares at the same time. I love it,
Speaker 1: you know it should Like the best part is it's
Speaker 1: all in you. You don't need anything. But then as
Speaker 1: it goes, I'm like introducing items you do need. Of course,
Speaker 1: you know there's something to do the Tony Robins thing,
Speaker 1: but also like there should be like a comedy version
Speaker 1: of like a Bernie Brown talk, a Bernie Brown muture
Speaker 1: that like vulnerability or something. But it's it's purely comedic
Speaker 1: and like fucked up and stupid. Like someone is standing
Speaker 1: there and they've been through it, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like they're looking at you and this is what I
Speaker 1: want to share with you. And then it's like that's
Speaker 1: slow paced. That is so funny. I love that it's slow.
Speaker 1: I've always wanted to do it, and I've always been
Speaker 1: waiting for the right time. But I think also like
Speaker 1: sort of like it's like wind pants and like a
Speaker 1: scrunch sort of like sort of like the cut co knives,
Speaker 1: like why are you afraid of your own success? Energy?
Speaker 1: You know, and it's sort of like roasting to like
Speaker 1: look at this woman in the front row. She might
Speaker 1: not be pretty, you know, she might not be bright.
Speaker 1: You know. It's it's a formal thing. You cut the
Speaker 1: audience down. I guess I'm saying I want to be
Speaker 1: a scientist. Yeah, thank you for admitting that. Here. We're
Speaker 1: a huge side taipe podcast. Last Culture is a side
Speaker 1: tipe pod. I think it's time. I think it's time
Speaker 1: to move on to I don't think so honey. This
Speaker 1: is our one minute segment where we take sometimes a
Speaker 1: lot of time to rail against something in culture. Matthew
Speaker 1: has something I do, I do, I do, I do,
Speaker 1: I don't. And the thing is this is this is
Speaker 1: gonna be a little off the cuff, but I feel
Speaker 1: like I need to say it. Okay, Oh I love that.
Speaker 1: That's that's sometimes that's the best Matt Rodgers. I don't
Speaker 1: think so many time starts now, Okay, I don't think
Speaker 1: so honey, that I have an itch. I think it's
Speaker 1: monkey POGs. Now. This occupies so much space in my
Speaker 1: brain of if literally right at just now on my neck,
Speaker 1: I have a little bit of an itch that means
Speaker 1: for the next at least two hours, I will fix
Speaker 1: it on having monkey pocks, isn't it. It's really it's
Speaker 1: now become a thing where it's attacking our skin and
Speaker 1: that doesn't sit right with me. I mean, this is
Speaker 1: something I'm getting, um the vas for I hope the
Speaker 1: second shot this week. Um, I somehow looked into the
Speaker 1: first shot early and I feel crazy about it. Like
Speaker 1: but literally, I was out with other gay men sharing
Speaker 1: gay breath. I know, I said I was gonna swear
Speaker 1: off gay men for us to the summer, but I
Speaker 1: was around others last night and there was that little
Speaker 1: of that little tiny itch in your head. You're thinking
Speaker 1: it's monkey poks And aren't we all afflicted right now
Speaker 1: with this sort of now it's come into our mental
Speaker 1: space like The Alien and Nope, a movie I didn't
Speaker 1: get to see this week, but read up on in
Speaker 1: case you wanted to talk about it. But I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey, the skin thing and that's one minute
Speaker 1: comparing monkey pops to the Alien, and no spoiler alert,
Speaker 1: it's out there trying to get us. Now, that's what
Speaker 1: I call monkey poks, Like that should be a CD.
Speaker 1: Although all the songs that were popular at this time.
Speaker 1: It's the renaissance album and not to be damaged, but
Speaker 1: the people I keep seeing having it are really really hot,
Speaker 1: and so part of me is like until it comes
Speaker 1: to the fours and the fives, like I'm cool. I
Speaker 1: mean until these people, as hot as they are, even
Speaker 1: people with open lesions on their face are not sucking me.
Speaker 1: So like I think I'm cool for a while. It's
Speaker 1: so funny to see like a hottie with a little
Speaker 1: monkey POGs, like Hi, I'm the face of this disease,
Speaker 1: and it's like one little like a Ricke Glysia small.
Speaker 1: They're sounding the alarm the loudest because the scarring is
Speaker 1: going to affect the rest of their lives exactly, And
Speaker 1: I get I get a scar and I'll look the same. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for some of us, it could be punching up, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, yes, finally there'll be some
Speaker 1: metro phone. You have to protect your face because that
Speaker 1: retinal is popping. I was on the Live with with
Speaker 1: Bone on the other day, and your skin has never
Speaker 1: looked better. Diva, Thanks Diva. Oh but you if you
Speaker 1: got your first shot. I mean the second shot is
Speaker 1: just to like prolonged the immunity, but it's just as effect.
Speaker 1: It's not changing the efficacy necessarily. I'm feeling okay, I
Speaker 1: got railed last night, so you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like I'm not thinking about it, like too deep. But
Speaker 1: but but I'm concerned. And every time I do have
Speaker 1: a little it, I'm like, oh, well I shouldn't have
Speaker 1: I'm talked to that person or left the home he
Speaker 1: did he fuck? You're scratching your neck? Did he fuck
Speaker 1: your neck area? Like that man fucked my neck bowing
Speaker 1: He came over here and fucked my neck. People need
Speaker 1: to start talking about it. You put a cock right
Speaker 1: here at the back of your neck. Wood on and
Speaker 1: and worth it deeva and nomberone. Sucking people's like skin
Speaker 1: folds was considered safer sex anymore. The frauding of it all,
Speaker 1: it's like not even you're not even you can't even.
Speaker 1: Frauding is the highest risk practice. Damn. There you go.
Speaker 1: I think I think you're okay, I'm okay, it's time
Speaker 1: for the Diva dolls. I don't think so Honey Boone
Speaker 1: Yang one of America's forefront young female stars. She is
Speaker 1: an Emmy nominee. She is shining right Rattinala is doing her.
Speaker 1: Oh well, she's actually on a film set right now.
Speaker 1: She is live from from a film set, and it's
Speaker 1: time for her. I don't think so, Honey, and your
Speaker 1: time starts now. I don't think some Honey advertising things
Speaker 1: as flushable wipes. I just found out about fat burgs.
Speaker 1: Do you do y'all know about fat bergs. It is
Speaker 1: these clumps of fat that are in the sewers that
Speaker 1: are basically like clumps of paper and like flushable wipes.
Speaker 1: It's almost all flushable wipes that are blocking the sewers.
Speaker 1: They are literally google it and I'm so sorry, but
Speaker 1: you have to google this so that you never once
Speaker 1: and again flush anything down the toilet that's not toilet paper.
Speaker 1: Fat bergs are all flushable wipes, and they are destroyed that.
Speaker 1: I don't have anything besides that, besides this warning to
Speaker 1: tell everybody you cannot flush these things down the toilet.
Speaker 1: It's like saying if um. It's like saying, you know,
Speaker 1: monkey dick, if if of monkeypos it's it's it's it's
Speaker 1: you cannot do it. It is actually destroying the infrastructure
Speaker 1: that makes society function. If the sewers go, then everything goes.
Speaker 1: That's key. That's the truth. And that's one minute. The
Speaker 1: fact that conversation just said, if the sewers go, everything goes.
Speaker 1: The fact that's where we're at as the country. I
Speaker 1: have to say, you have shook me to my core
Speaker 1: and I don't know if I'm willing to give up
Speaker 1: the fleshable wives. And I think this is my Taylor
Speaker 1: Swift Cors moment. Wait do you have it? Wait? Do
Speaker 1: you have a tushy? Um? No, Mama, I don't. Okay,
Speaker 1: get a sponsorhip for this podcast. Get a tushy. You
Speaker 1: will never have to buy toilet paper again. You don't
Speaker 1: even have to touch your own asshole. I love it.
Speaker 1: I want to though. That's when I feel the most
Speaker 1: like I want to finger myself to like right after
Speaker 1: I should because you're like, oh, like vacancy. You know,
Speaker 1: I know I'm safe here, vacancy. All right, Well, this
Speaker 1: this is tricks, Mattels. I don't think so, honey, tricks.
Speaker 1: Are you ready? Yeah? Your time starts now. I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey. Signatures. Why are we pretending like my
Speaker 1: signature is some seal that no one could duplicate. Oh, well,
Speaker 1: he signed it, so it's authenticated. We all know the alphabet.
Speaker 1: We all have the same four names, unless you're even
Speaker 1: even if I don't I know how to spell bowen.
Speaker 1: Why are we pretending? This isn't Laura Ingles Wilder, This
Speaker 1: isn't Benjamin Franklin. This isn't the deflation the fact that
Speaker 1: we think a signature writing your name is something you
Speaker 1: learned in kindergarten, is a binding legal gesture. What are
Speaker 1: we talking about? Like? How is that? Well I signed it,
Speaker 1: so I really meant it. What if someone else signed it?
Speaker 1: We all can write each other's names. We all can
Speaker 1: write anyone's It would be like if we all had
Speaker 1: the same fucking bank account number. Like what are we
Speaker 1: talking about? Give me like a prick, Give me a
Speaker 1: little micro chip in the hand, like if your dog
Speaker 1: gets lost as a chip, give me a chip. Give
Speaker 1: me chips And that's one minute. You know, thank you? Sometimes,
Speaker 1: don't you think go to a restaurant and the way
Speaker 1: that I'll sign my name, anyone could have done it
Speaker 1: the way that I signed my name on those checks.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I just simply to this, you're gonna just you're
Speaker 1: gonna be really freaked out. I'll just take the pen
Speaker 1: and sort of do that. I mean, I'll just I'll
Speaker 1: draw a line and they'll accept it. She's right, America
Speaker 1: has a problems. America has a problem. America has a problem.
Speaker 1: But Tricksy, it seems like maybe you're speaking from a
Speaker 1: place of shame about your own signature, Like maybe you
Speaker 1: don't like the way it looks you have a flop signature. No, well,
Speaker 1: the kicker is I always want to be famous. I
Speaker 1: used to spend my youth especial I'd write my name
Speaker 1: a hundred times a day, and then ultimately I got
Speaker 1: famous for different names. So that I want you to sign,
Speaker 1: you should start signing Steph Brian Fircus. Once in a while,
Speaker 1: I'll have a brain catty and and she'll go, I
Speaker 1: just signed the name Brian. I go, I guess, run
Speaker 1: with it. Like name checks and stuff, you must write
Speaker 1: your real name. I mean, Brian Fergus is probably a
Speaker 1: name that gets used all the time and we just
Speaker 1: don't know. It's a great name. Nobody has my name
Speaker 1: and it is nice for that reason like, my partner's
Speaker 1: name is David Silver, which I there's probably a billion
Speaker 1: Matt Rogers here. Yeah, yeah, So I just think they
Speaker 1: are bogus. I'm always like, why is this proving it's me?
Speaker 1: What is that? What is that? I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't know, but um, you know, it's the only way
Speaker 1: we could have verified identities back in the day, like
Speaker 1: as of twenty years ago, and now that we're in
Speaker 1: this brave new world, it feels like it's irrelevant. Oh
Speaker 1: but by the way you're saying gesture made me think
Speaker 1: of that florist guy who was on Trixi Motel and
Speaker 1: the hottest guy Cobra Lily, the hottest guy I've ever
Speaker 1: seen in my life. Crazy. So his name is Jake.
Speaker 1: Follow him on the internet at Cobra Lily. His flowers
Speaker 1: are beautiful and he is fucking gorgeous. It's always the
Speaker 1: florists and the jewelers that are the hottest gay men
Speaker 1: in the world, in any country. And you go, what
Speaker 1: is up with this jewelry and flowers. It's like the
Speaker 1: dainty pretty things that attract like the hottest people. It's crazy,
Speaker 1: crazy and so and sober people and sober people, and
Speaker 1: they're different about him. He's like, oh he's sober. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's why he's like hot and nice. Okay, Like it
Speaker 1: seems calm, hot, nice, functional, sober. Interesting sober people are
Speaker 1: definitely insane and I think they'll admit it. They'll admit it, right,
Speaker 1: you heard it here first. Well, um, this was yet
Speaker 1: again another fucking blockbuster the series Trixie Motel. All the
Speaker 1: episodes are streamable now and you can stay at the
Speaker 1: goddamn hotel. And when I tell you, I mean it's
Speaker 1: I'm look, I'm looking at novembercause if you guys actually
Speaker 1: want to come, can you tell us when? And we
Speaker 1: could probably work out some kind of like block off
Speaker 1: the days for you so you can get the space
Speaker 1: for yourself and your friends. You. Well, we'll be in touch, okay,
Speaker 1: from right from Raios to here to all over the world.
Speaker 1: Than congratulations on your continued success. People love your pod
Speaker 1: and you just keep it so fun. Icon. Well, thanks
Speaker 1: for coming back. It is it is. We end every
Speaker 1: single episode Yang with the song I was waiting to
Speaker 1: see if you're you're the yes, I'm sure no us,
Speaker 1: don't even try to again. Why was that in your
Speaker 1: head because true. Because there are a couple of songs
Speaker 1: on the album on the that are giving Freaky Friday,
Speaker 1: and that's sounds amazing. It's an amazing soundtrack, no fucking
Speaker 1: skips on that one. And streaming the Blond albums and
Speaker 1: stream the Bond and Pink albums. Swear to God, Swear
Speaker 1: to God, Oh my God, bye. Uh we love you.